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  1. [00:47:57] Doggo Plays: how are you guys liking drafTT on the ladder?
  2. [00:48:09] Snorlax_in_the_way: i think a ladder bot is dumb
  3. [00:48:21] Doggo Plays: did you lose to it? :thonk:
  4. [00:48:26] Snorlax_in_the_way: i haven't laddered in
  5. [00:48:28] Snorlax_in_the_way: almost 2 years
  6. [00:48:33] Doggo Plays: sure
  7. [00:48:44] +SHSP: as someone who's been on ladder
  8. [00:48:48] +SHSP: it's not great
  9. [00:49:00] +SHSP: consistently spinned on a scizor with hawk for some reason
  10. [00:49:03] Gooned: No heal
  11. [00:49:06] Gooned: We're not liking the bot
  12. [00:49:12] Gooned: Get rid of it I'm tired of this rubbish
  13. [00:49:13] Snorlax_in_the_way: that's not heal
  14. [00:49:16] Snorlax_in_the_way: wait
  15. [00:49:25] Gooned: What's it been
  16. [00:49:25] Snorlax_in_the_way: yeah no not him
  17. [00:49:28] Gooned: 2 years since ladderconda?
  18. [00:49:37] Gooned: And we're really going back to this rubbish again
  19. [00:49:40] Gooned: Which is literally just sad
  20. [00:49:42] Snorlax_in_the_way: get it cus hes
  21. [00:49:43] Snorlax_in_the_way: british
  22. [00:49:49] Gooned: You can't mask a dead ladder
  23. [00:49:55] Gooned: And trying to mask it
  24. [00:49:58] Gooned: Is incredibly sad
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  26. [00:50:40] Doggo Plays: can't mask a dead room or a dead tier either
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  28. [00:51:01] Doggo Plays: I don't think the point of drafTT is to mask anything
  29. [00:51:23] Gooned: What is it
  30. [00:51:25] Gooned: For
  31. [00:51:31] Snorlax_in_the_way: i mean tbf
  32. [00:51:35] Snorlax_in_the_way: the tier has been doing better
  33. [00:51:44] +SHSP: we've grown quite a bit no?
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  35. [00:52:19] Doggo Plays: yeah you've grown so much. have a totally active subforum and QCers and VRers
  36. [00:52:27] Gooned: Yo what are you doing
  37. [00:52:44] Gooned: Trying to host
  38. [00:52:45] Gooned: a revolt
  39. [00:52:47] Gooned: in the background?
  40. [00:52:51] Gooned: Please
  41. [00:53:13] Snorlax_in_the_way: nigga what
  42. [00:53:13] Snorlax_in_the_way: lol
  43. [00:53:28] Doggo Plays: yeah playing survivor is totally hosting a revolt
  44. [00:53:47] Gooned: haha ok
  45. [00:53:51] Gooned: :)
  46. [00:53:51] +SHSP: i don't really know how we could have stepped backwards
  47. [00:54:00] Gooned: We've been pushing for things
  48. [00:54:03] Gooned: to boost activity
  49. [00:54:06] Snorlax_in_the_way: yo heal what happened to that global
  50. [00:54:19] Gooned: Don't send shots about the growth of cap
  51. [00:54:25] +SHSP: i mean, captt signups are somewhat down because of lacking dubs probably
  52. [00:54:28] Gooned: When you're meant to be helping
  53. [00:54:39] +SHSP: but the tour in the main tourforum is pretty solid
  54. [00:54:39] Gooned: And drafTT does not help with anything
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  56. [00:55:24] Doggo Plays: didn't know I had a chain around my neck requiring me to do anything
  57. [00:55:45] Doggo Plays: sorry sir, I'll get in line just for you
  58. [00:56:05] Gooned: Then why are you mod
  59. [00:56:11] Gooned: If you don't want to contribute
  60. [00:56:16] Gooned: To the tier
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  62. [00:56:27] Gooned: It's not a chain around your neck
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  64. [00:56:48] Doggo Plays: it's impossible to contribute to a tier when others don't contribute
  65. [00:56:59] Gooned: We can't have that mentality
  66. [00:57:05] Gooned: You have to lead the pack
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  68. [00:57:06] Gooned: not follow
  69. [00:57:10] Gooned: That's how things get down
  70. [00:57:11] Gooned: done*
  71. [00:57:14] Gooned: You gonna wait around
  72. [00:57:16] Gooned: or push shit yourself
  73. [00:57:24] Gooned: If you wanna sit around that's fine
  74. [00:57:31] Gooned: But don't send shots and sit around
  75. [00:57:32] Doggo Plays: It takes more than one QCer to QC analyses, it takes more than one person to do anything
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  77. [00:57:47] Gooned: You on the QC team?
  78. [00:57:56] Snorlax_in_the_way: in heal's defense
  79. [00:57:59] Doggo Plays: more like there is no QC team
  80. [00:58:03] Snorlax_in_the_way: he was an extreme work horse for cap
  81. [00:58:17] Snorlax_in_the_way: before sparktrain left
  82. [00:58:34] Gooned: You don't just do work
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  84. [00:58:46] Gooned: Then stop doing work
  85. [00:58:53] Gooned: And grill what you put work into
  86. [00:58:58] Gooned: Fucking waste of your time then LOL
  87. [01:00:02] Doggo Plays: yeah sorry my bad
  88. [01:00:05] Doggo Plays: I didn't realize that
  89. [01:00:19] Gooned: If you think there's a problem then at least try and do something
  90. [01:00:23] Doggo Plays: CAP is a fascist regime and you're not allowed to criticize it at all
  91. [01:00:27] Gooned: Rather than sitting back and not doing anything
  92. [01:00:30] Snorlax_in_the_way: tall dark and handsome
  93. [01:00:33] +SHSP: whoa, where'd we get fascism from
  94. [01:00:34] Gooned: That'd like the biggest lesson I've learned
  95. [01:00:36] +SHSP: i tuned out
  96. [01:00:37] Gooned: While I've been in CAP
  97. [01:01:05] Gooned: Criticising =/= Shitting on it
  98. [01:01:10] Gooned: [00:57:59] Doggo Plays: more like there is no QC team
  99. [01:01:18] Gooned: [00:52:19] Doggo Plays: yeah you've grown so much. have a totally active subforum and QCers and VRers
  100. [01:01:24] Gooned: [00:50:40] Doggo Plays: can't mask a dead room or a dead tier either
  101. [01:01:42] Doggo Plays: the CAP metagame has a serious problem with providing quality resources and QC
  102. [01:01:48] Gooned: That is some of the shadiest shit I've seen
  103. [01:01:51] Gooned: And what do you even do
  104. [01:01:52] Gooned: You don't play
  105. [01:01:54] Gooned: To even help
  106. [01:01:54] Doggo Plays: it is not shitting on it for the sake of shitty on it
  107. [01:02:02] Doggo Plays: it's saying there's a problem
  108. [01:02:05] Gooned: We all
  109. [01:02:07] Gooned: Know there's a problem
  110. [01:02:09] +SHSP: not exactly a simple one to fix, to be fair
  111. [01:02:14] Gooned: It's been a problem
  112. [01:02:16] Snorlax_in_the_way: lets all point at the problem
  113. [01:02:19] Snorlax_in_the_way: and not fix it :thinking:
  114. [01:02:20] Gooned: for a while
  115. [01:02:22] Gooned: We all know it
  116. [01:02:27] Gooned: But you don't just shit on it
  117. [01:02:29] +SHSP: we rush the process and we're fucked
  118. [01:02:33] Gooned: And then try to play the good guy
  119. [01:02:37] Doggo Plays: it's not a problem that one person can fix so don't blame me for trying for years and then stopping because no one else tries
  120. [01:02:44] Gooned: That's fine
  121. [01:02:45] Gooned: you wanna stop
  122. [01:02:46] Bionic Puppy: Oh boy
  123. [01:02:47] Gooned: Cool
  124. [01:02:52] Bionic Puppy: I'm loving the come back to the drama
  125. [01:02:53] Gooned: But don't come back
  126. [01:02:53] Bionic Puppy: I want in
  127. [01:02:55] Doggo Plays: I'll flat out say it
  128. [01:02:58] Gooned: And hit us
  129. [01:02:59] +SHSP: oh hi bp
  130. [01:03:00] Gooned: With snide remarks
  131. [01:03:00] +SHSP: welcome back
  132. [01:03:01] Doggo Plays: the problem is cbrevan and jas61292
  133. [01:03:02] +SHSP: good timings
  134. [01:03:02] Bionic Puppy: yo SHSP
  135. [01:03:06] Snorlax_in_the_way: the problem is
  136. [01:03:07] Bionic Puppy: how've you been?
  137. [01:03:07] Gooned: The problem is
  138. [01:03:08] Snorlax_in_the_way: cbrevan and jas
  139. [01:03:09] Snorlax_in_the_way: what a world
  140. [01:03:10] Doggo Plays: they are mods who do nothing for the CAP metagame
  141. [01:03:18] Gooned: HealNDeal
  142. [01:03:18] Gooned: is also
  143. [01:03:19] Gooned: Another mod
  144. [01:03:21] Gooned: who does nothing
  145. [01:03:21] Doggo Plays: cbrevan once upon a time did something
  146. [01:03:23] Gooned: for the cap metagame
  147. [01:03:26] Gooned: Did you forget him
  148. [01:03:38] Doggo Plays: but as soon as sparktrain left, cbrevan stopped caring
  149. [01:03:38] Gooned: Cbro plays more than you and is trying to push more stuff than you
  150. [01:03:40] Gooned: As far as I know
  151. [01:03:56] Snorlax_in_the_way: i mean if you put as much effort into cap
  152. [01:03:58] Snorlax_in_the_way: as you put into banning me
  153. [01:04:02] Snorlax_in_the_way: we might just be on cap 26
  154. [01:04:13] Bionic Puppy: if I may say something - we need to weigh up how important the metagame is for CAP. Sure I loved the meta, but it was made out of the CAP Process. Yeah I'd love to see the metagame flourish, but CAP is create a Pokemon, not Create a Metagame
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  156. [01:04:22] Gooned: Ay yo
  157. [01:04:24] Gooned: That is no mentality
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  159. [01:04:32] Gooned: Seeing one part of CAP as higher than one
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  161. [01:04:38] Doggo Plays: despite claims of separation from main CAP
  162. [01:04:38] Gooned: Is the reason why we're in this mess
  163. [01:04:43] +SHSP: now I think this is the right word because im anything but a bio major
  164. [01:04:45] Doggo Plays: we are also still chained by main CAP
  165. [01:04:47] @snake_rattler: oh hi BP!
  166. [01:04:49] Gooned: Constant contribution to the process
  167. [01:04:51] Bionic Puppy: hey Snake
  168. [01:04:51] +SHSP: but it's a symbiotic relationship
  169. [01:04:54] +SHSP: (?)
  170. [01:04:54] Gooned: Minimal contribution to the metagame
  171. [01:04:58] Bionic Puppy: thought I'd pop my head in occasionally for CAPTT etc
  172. [01:05:01] Gooned: Heal
  173. [01:05:09] Gooned: Just don't sit on the high horse about metagame involvement
  174. [01:05:10] +SHSP: gonna be a good one BP
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  176. [01:05:17] +SHSP: all the teams look solid
  177. [01:05:19] Gooned: I haven't seen you do much for the metagame
  178. [01:05:20] +SHSP: but go pajantoms
  179. [01:05:22] Bionic Puppy: I can't wait
  180. [01:05:40] Doggo Plays: it takes more than one QCer to do anything for the metagame
  181. [01:05:41] +SHSP: still kinda cant believe
  182. [01:05:43] @EpicUmbreon29: Hiya BP n_n
  183. [01:05:43] +SHSP: we got finch in
  184. [01:05:45] Bionic Puppy: I guess you're right in that sense drap
  185. [01:05:53] Doggo Plays: sorry but I'm throwing shade here at snake_rattler too
  186. [01:05:59] Gooned: Snake_rattler?
  187. [01:06:03] +SHSP: whoa
  188. [01:06:03] Snorlax_in_the_way: yes cus hes
  189. [01:06:04] Gooned: You're throwing shade
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  191. [01:06:08] Gooned: But you have literally
  192. [01:06:09] Snorlax_in_the_way: clearly done something wrong
  193. [01:06:09] Bionic Puppy: Hi Epic!
  194. [01:06:14] Gooned: Dipped because you got mad at some higher up decision
  195. [01:06:16] Gooned: and done shit all
  196. [01:06:21] Marjane: bp :o
  197. [01:06:24] +SHSP: snake does so much for both sides of CAP
  198. [01:06:26] Gooned: When your argument is about higher ups not doing anything
  199. [01:06:29] Gooned: but u don't do anything
  200. [01:06:31] Bionic Puppy: I gotta say, cbrevan and jas have done so much for CAP
  201. [01:06:32] Gooned: I don't get it
  202. [01:06:32] Bionic Puppy: like
  203. [01:06:33] Bionic Puppy: SO much
  204. [01:06:34] @snake_rattler: hi i just got back and i'm having shade thrown at me
  205. [01:06:34] @snake_rattler: and i'm trying to get new people to QC
  206. [01:06:38] Doggo Plays: I'm mad because the people who are supposed to do shit
  207. [01:06:39] Gooned: What argument are you fighting
  208. [01:06:41] +SHSP: it's a process
  209. [01:06:44] Escoffier: yikes
  210. [01:06:44] Doggo Plays: expect ME to do all their work for them
  211. [01:06:53] Doggo Plays: so if you want something done
  212. [01:06:57] Bionic Puppy: you don't see it, because it's background info, but things are being done
  213. [01:06:59] Doggo Plays: then why don't YOU start doing it
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  215. [01:07:05] +SHSP: i do not appreciate going after probably one of the hardest workers in CAP by far
  216. [01:07:25] Bionic Puppy: A metagame hinges on people, CAP is unpopular, thats true compared to OU, so we can only do so much
  217. [01:07:47] Bionic Puppy: And HeaL and CB and Jas and Doug and Birkal and Spark and everyone else want CAP to be big and worth it
  218. [01:07:52] Doggo Plays: snake_rattler, why haven't you done anything for CAP QC since you've been made a mod?
  219. [01:07:58] Bionic Puppy: and snake, can't forget snake
  220. [01:08:01] Bionic Puppy: and is drap a mod yet?
  221. [01:08:04] Gooned: No
  222. [01:08:05] Bionic Puppy: And Epic
  223. [01:08:07] Bionic Puppy: eww
  224. [01:08:07] Gooned: lol don't give me mod
  225. [01:08:10] Bionic Puppy: get gud
  226. [01:08:17] Bionic Puppy: either way, theres only so much a mod can do
  227. [01:08:26] Gooned: I'm not telling heal to carry shit
  228. [01:08:28] Bionic Puppy: what is a mod if theres no chat to mod? you gotta have give and take
  229. [01:08:29] Doggo Plays: spark used to be a hard worker
  230. [01:08:32] Gooned: I'm saying don't come in
  231. [01:08:36] Gooned: And throw shade
  232. [01:08:42] Gooned: like you have a soap box to stand on
  233. [01:08:42] Bionic Puppy: how long have you been in CAP Doggo Plays?
  234. [01:08:46] Gooned: When you literally are just a toxic bmer
  235. [01:08:47] Doggo Plays: but sorry to break the news to you kids, but he was an asshole behind the scenes
  236. [01:08:48] +SHSP: BP thats heal
  237. [01:08:51] Gooned: Who harasses people in PMS
  238. [01:08:53] Bionic Puppy: aah
  239. [01:08:55] Bionic Puppy: nvm never realsied
  240. [01:09:06] Bionic Puppy: then what I said earlier sounds condesending, oops
  241. [01:09:07] +SHSP: np the name change is jarring
  242. [01:09:09] +SHSP: for a sec
  243. [01:09:14] Gooned: And then you fallback
  244. [01:09:26] Gooned: Come back to cohost captt
  245. [01:09:33] Gooned: Maybe to act like you're active
  246. [01:09:37] Gooned: So you can do it
  247. [01:09:37] Doggo Plays: I'm hosting it
  248. [01:09:41] Doggo Plays: because YOU didn't want to
  249. [01:09:43] Gooned: Oh even better
  250. [01:09:45] Doggo Plays: I'm hosting it
  251. [01:09:46] Gooned: Oh hell yeah
  252. [01:09:48] Gooned: I didn't want to
  253. [01:09:49] +SHSP: drap got abused last year
  254. [01:09:49] Bionic Puppy: I like the meta because it gives CAP's actualisation and a place to go
  255. [01:09:50] Gooned: Because last year
  256. [01:09:50] Doggo Plays: because no one else stepped up
  257. [01:09:51] @snake_rattler: i haven't done anything for CAP QC? i've been speaking with people about being QC members, and i've got a couple people starting / working on amchecks soon, and i've put down a lot of QC checks over the summer
  258. [01:09:52] Gooned: You made me
  259. [01:09:52] @snake_rattler: also, i'm only human, about to leave for college lol
  260. [01:09:58] Gooned: Want to quit
  261. [01:09:59] Gooned: CAP
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  263. [01:10:05] +SHSP: also he's got a team in this years captt
  264. [01:10:05] Bionic Puppy: Yo, if Drap can't do something, good on him for prioritising his life
  265. [01:10:07] Doggo Plays: the CAPTT convo was open for like a month with no one wanting to host
  266. [01:10:13] Gooned: Yeah
  267. [01:10:19] Gooned: Blame yourself for that one
  268. [01:10:21] Bionic Puppy: we saw how Sparky struggled with the Life/CAP split
  269. [01:10:21] Gooned: do I gotta show u
  270. [01:10:23] Gooned: The PMs
  271. [01:10:26] Snorlax_in_the_way: oh not the PMs
  272. [01:10:28] Gooned: to remind you
  273. [01:10:32] Snorlax_in_the_way: 2 oras ?
  274. [01:10:35] Snorlax_in_the_way: ??
  275. [01:10:39] Gooned: The harassment you gave me
  276. [01:10:41] Gooned: Last year
  277. [01:10:42] +SHSP: truth be told, most of the people who would have wanted to manage were assmen
  278. [01:10:43] Gooned: Why in the hell
  279. [01:10:43] Bionic Puppy: I forgot how snarky Laxy is
  280. [01:10:49] Snorlax_in_the_way: hey bp ;)
  281. [01:10:50] Gooned: Would I do it again
  282. [01:10:51] +SHSP: offler, myself, jay probably
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  284. [01:10:56] Gooned: LOL
  285. [01:11:05] Snorlax_in_the_way: Gooned, 2 oras ?
  286. [01:11:10] Doggo Plays: if you can't take any heat at all and crumble under it, then you shouldn't be a host
  287. [01:11:11] Snorlax_in_the_way: turn off the timer for my teammate ?
  288. [01:11:20] Doggo Plays: I respect the difficulties you dealt with
  289. [01:11:25] Gooned: Any heat
  290. [01:11:26] Gooned: Yo
  291. [01:11:30] Bionic Puppy: then if he's making a play to not put himself under too mcuh pressurer
  292. [01:11:33] Gooned: You literally harassed me
  293. [01:11:35] Bionic Puppy: why are you blaming him?
  294. [01:11:36] Gooned: my first time
  295. [01:11:40] Gooned: Hosting a big tournament
  296. [01:11:44] Doggo Plays: but to say that the season didn't have crazy shit that made it understandably difficulty is silly
  297. [01:11:44] Bionic Puppy: good on him, he's making the decision right for him
  298. [01:11:50] Marjane: don't shit on snake he's the most consistent qc member
  299. [01:12:09] Bionic Puppy: Snake you're beautiful don't let anyone tell you otherwise
  300. [01:12:17] Snorlax_in_the_way: imagine saying cap was difficult when
  301. [01:12:19] Snorlax_in_the_way: 2 weeks of it were
  302. [01:12:21] +SHSP: thats my manager
  303. [01:12:22] +SHSP: right there
  304. [01:12:23] Snorlax_in_the_way: you in some scandal involving me
  305. [01:12:23] Doggo Plays: I criticized you for things you did while hosting
  306. [01:12:24] Gooned: You basically thought I was conspiring with the sunkerns
  307. [01:12:26] +SHSP: love you snake <3
  308. [01:12:31] +SHSP: whoa
  309. [01:12:32] Gooned: Yo heal
  310. [01:12:34] Gooned: do u want me
  311. [01:12:35] Doggo Plays: I think at certain points you were a bad host
  312. [01:12:35] Gooned: To really
  313. [01:12:36] Gooned: post the shit
  314. [01:12:37] Gooned: you said
  315. [01:12:40] Gooned: in the chat rn ?
  316. [01:12:42] Doggo Plays: you recovered by the end and made it up tho
  317. [01:12:44] Snorlax_in_the_way: just do it
  318. [01:12:46] Snorlax_in_the_way: >idle threats
  319. [01:12:54] Gooned: Criticism
  320. [01:12:56] Gooned: Or
  321. [01:12:57] Bionic Puppy: lets be honest, Laxy, you would have been the most liley to plot some nefarious shit
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  323. [01:13:08] Gooned: You being one of the most toxic people
  324. [01:13:12] Gooned: I have ever spoken to in life
  325. [01:13:13] +SHSP: snor wasn't even in the sunkern discord
  326. [01:13:18] Gooned: and I'm friends with laxy
  327. [01:13:21] Bionic Puppy: thats a claim when Snorlax_in_the_way is in the room
  328. [01:13:22] +SHSP: how is he supposed to lead a conspiracy
  329. [01:13:30] +SHSP: i ran that shit tight
  330. [01:13:31] Doggo Plays: you friends with laxy IS the problem with your hosting last season
  331. [01:13:35] Doggo Plays: in case you forgot
  332. [01:13:39] Gooned: What was the problem
  333. [01:13:40] Bionic Puppy: woah
  334. [01:13:42] Bionic Puppy: hold up lmao
  335. [01:13:42] +SHSP: oh, when you turned off the timer?
  336. [01:13:42] Gooned: What did I do
  337. [01:13:47] Gooned: I even spoke to
  338. [01:13:48] Gooned: TDs
  339. [01:13:50] Gooned: and u accused me
  340. [01:13:52] Gooned: of fabricating
  341. [01:13:54] Gooned: LOOOOOOOOOOL
  342. [01:13:57] Gooned: Nothing pleased you
  343. [01:14:03] Snorlax_in_the_way: drap has also made decisions against me in other tournaments
  344. [01:14:03] Gooned: You just wanted it your way
  345. [01:14:04] +SHSP: i'll grab my post on both the issues
  346. [01:14:05] Snorlax_in_the_way: so there wasn't
  347. [01:14:07] +SHSP: oh yeah
  348. [01:14:07] Snorlax_in_the_way: collusion either
  349. [01:14:08] +SHSP: the DQ
  350. [01:14:13] +SHSP: in seasonal no?
  351. [01:14:15] Doggo Plays: when did I accuse you of fabricating
  352. [01:14:15] Snorlax_in_the_way: he DQ'd me in my most recent tour run
  353. [01:14:16] Snorlax_in_the_way: lol
  354. [01:14:23] Doggo Plays: the problem is I talked to the same TDs as well
  355. [01:14:32] Doggo Plays: and they told me slightly different things
  356. [01:14:38] Snorlax_in_the_way: aye we already got a video
  357. [01:14:41] Snorlax_in_the_way: about how the TDs are awful
  358. [01:14:42] Snorlax_in_the_way: :^)
  359. [01:14:45] Gooned: slightly different things
  360. [01:14:47] Bionic Puppy: we do?
  361. [01:14:47] Gooned: And then
  362. [01:14:48] Doggo Plays: but I was actually able to talk to them and reach a mutual understanding of what should be done
  363. [01:14:48] +SHSP: s/o to blunder
  364. [01:14:49] Bionic Puppy: Link me Laxy
  365. [01:14:52] Gooned: I spoke to them again
  366. [01:14:58] Snorlax_in_the_way: Bionic Puppy, just go to blunder's channel
  367. [01:15:04] Gooned: And they were still against you
  368. [01:15:04] Bionic Puppy: who's blunder
  369. [01:15:06] Gooned: lol
  370. [01:15:13] Snorlax_in_the_way: thunderblunder777
  371. [01:15:16] Bionic Puppy: oh him
  372. [01:15:17] Bionic Puppy: eww
  373. [01:15:22] Snorlax_in_the_way: this nigga
  374. [01:15:23] Gooned: I screenshot everything
  375. [01:15:23] Snorlax_in_the_way: lol
  376. [01:15:26] @EpicUmbreon29: Yo HeaL, if there's any one person you should be blaming for QC shortcomings it's me, and I'd appreciate it if you stop reopening old wounds about CAPTT when you criticized others for not being able to move on from it.
  377. [01:15:26] Gooned: told them turns
  378. [01:15:32] Gooned: And u said
  379. [01:15:34] Snorlax_in_the_way: EpicUmbreon29 stay out of this
  380. [01:15:35] Snorlax_in_the_way: lol
  381. [01:15:35] Gooned: I manipulated it
  382. [01:15:38] Gooned: to favour laxy
  383. [01:15:43] Gooned: because \o.
  384. [01:15:43] Bionic Puppy: He has a say Laxy
  385. [01:15:44] thesky12321: wait what
  386. [01:15:45] Doggo Plays: umbreon how are you to blame for QC at all
  387. [01:15:46] thesky12321: thats Heal
  388. [01:15:50] Bionic Puppy: yep
  389. [01:15:50] +SHSP: yea
  390. [01:15:51] +SHSP: it's heal
  391. [01:15:52] thesky12321: HUH
  392. [01:15:55] Bionic Puppy: I was as surprised as you are
  393. [01:16:06] thesky12321: well then
  394. [01:16:06] +SHSP: it's a jarring bit for a sec
  395. [01:16:07] +SHSP: yea
  396. [01:16:08] thesky12321: hello HeaL
  397. [01:16:14] Bionic Puppy: but no joke, people aren't CAPbots, you know this
  398. [01:16:19] Bionic Puppy: You can't expect people to just
  399. [01:16:24] Snorlax_in_the_way: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/captt-3-finals.3618273/#post-7560788
  400. [01:16:25] Bionic Puppy: churn out CAP material
  401. [01:16:25] Snorlax_in_the_way: whoops
  402. [01:16:45] thesky12321: o that game
  403. [01:16:50] thesky12321: THAT
  404. [01:16:50] thesky12321: game
  405. [01:16:53] +SHSP: that game.
  406. [01:16:55] Gooned: And the stress
  407. [01:16:58] Gooned: Heal gave me
  408. [01:17:00] Gooned: And u expected me
  409. [01:17:01] Doggo Plays: For the record
  410. [01:17:04] Gooned: To run the next tour
  411. [01:17:13] Gooned: Why the hell would you expect me to run the next tour
  412. [01:17:15] +SHSP: i could pull up the week 1 post I believe I made, as well
  413. [01:17:16] Gooned: like actually
  414. [01:17:17] Doggo Plays: I was 100% against drap voiding that match at the time he voided it
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  416. [01:17:22] +SHSP: over that fiasco
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  418. [01:17:31] Doggo Plays: I never expected you to run the next one
  419. [01:17:33] Bionic Puppy: Drap fucked up, made controversial decisions and did what was logically best in his eyes at that point
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  421. [01:17:47] Bionic Puppy: He turned around and decided that "I don't want to go though THAT again"
  422. [01:17:53] Snorlax_in_the_way: drap didn't fuck up
  423. [01:17:54] Snorlax_in_the_way: huh
  424. [01:17:55] Bionic Puppy: And he hasn't. He didn't promise anyone anything
  425. [01:17:59] Snorlax_in_the_way: those decisions were spot on
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  427. [01:18:02] Gooned: I am 100% happy with my decisions
  428. [01:18:06] Gooned: And stand by them till I die
  429. [01:18:14] Gooned: Especially after conferencing TDs
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  431. [01:18:21] Gooned: And having their support
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  433. [01:18:27] Gooned: not much else I can really ask for huh
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  435. [01:18:30] Bionic Puppy: So it's unjust for you to be having a go at him for protecting himself
  436. [01:18:35] Doggo Plays: I don't blame drap for anything that happened last season and I totally understand the pressure and I fully admit that I added to the pressure at inconvenient times and I am sorry for that.
  437. [01:18:38] Snorlax_in_the_way: tbf
  438. [01:18:42] Snorlax_in_the_way: week 5 actually went against me
  439. [01:18:44] Snorlax_in_the_way: rat forfeited the game and
  440. [01:18:46] Snorlax_in_the_way: tried to get it back
  441. [01:18:47] Snorlax_in_the_way: lol
  442. [01:18:53] Bionic Puppy: what about you slapping someone in the finals
  443. [01:18:57] Bionic Puppy: making me go up against frat
  444. [01:19:02] Bionic Puppy: ^_.
  445. [01:19:03] Snorlax_in_the_way: don't forget
  446. [01:19:05] Snorlax_in_the_way: tadasuke vs heal
  447. [01:19:11] +SHSP: 0_o
  448. [01:19:13] Doggo Plays: I still think Drap's void decision was dumb but fortunately rat was a good bloke and forfeited in the rematch anyway
  449. [01:19:23] +SHSP: rww then tried to walk that back
  450. [01:19:23] +SHSP: so
  451. [01:19:27] Snorlax_in_the_way: i just
  452. [01:19:28] Snorlax_in_the_way: didn't let him
  453. [01:19:29] Snorlax_in_the_way: lol
  454. [01:19:32] Gooned: You should've just
  455. [01:19:35] Gooned: Left the timer
  456. [01:19:38] Gooned: Honestly
  457. [01:19:45] Gooned: Would've made things much easier
  458. [01:19:56] Gooned: But
  459. [01:19:58] Snorlax_in_the_way: aye drap
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  461. [01:20:05] Snorlax_in_the_way: wanna hear something funny ?
  462. [01:20:06] Snorlax_in_the_way: lol
  463. [01:20:07] Doggo Plays: yes I made a huge mistake there and it's my fault for not knowing the rules as well as I should have regarding time outs
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  465. [01:20:17] Gooned: The tournament is in the past
  466. [01:20:20] Doggo Plays: and rat paid the price for my mistake
  467. [01:20:20] Snorlax_in_the_way: ended up
  468. [01:20:21] Gooned: The main point is
  469. [01:20:23] Snorlax_in_the_way: turning off the timer
  470. [01:20:26] Snorlax_in_the_way: so it looked like he didn't move
  471. [01:20:31] Snorlax_in_the_way: and canceling my move
  472. [01:20:35] Snorlax_in_the_way: gottem
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  474. [01:20:40] Bionic Puppy: then can I ask what the issue is HeaL?
  475. [01:20:49] Bionic Puppy: Surely if you see the stress that drap was put under
  476. [01:20:52] Gooned: don't come into the room talking shit
  477. [01:20:55] Bionic Puppy: then you understand that he's only human
  478. [01:21:11] Gooned: When you're in no better of a position than the people you're talking shit on
  479. [01:21:19] Gooned: Snake is at least ON QC, people at least TRY to post
  480. [01:21:20] Doggo Plays: bio, drap started shitting on me after I criticized the CAP metagame's lack of resource building
  481. [01:21:24] Gooned: people actually try to play
  482. [01:21:29] Doggo Plays: and he expects me to sit there and do all the work by myself
  483. [01:21:35] Gooned: You are just in the background asking people to support your movement
  484. [01:21:40] Bionic Puppy: alright
  485. [01:21:41] Gooned: Trying to restart fuji
  486. [01:21:42] Doggo Plays: there is no movement
  487. [01:21:45] Gooned: and 1up cap
  488. [01:21:52] Bionic Puppy: This is a hot take and then some
  489. [01:21:53] Gooned: Whatever you wanna call it
  490. [01:21:58] Doggo Plays: fuji isn't being restarted
  491. [01:22:01] @snake_rattler: how did we get back to CAPTT last year
  492. [01:22:01] @snake_rattler: i feel like we had moved on from this issue from last year and i don't understand why we had to talk about it again
  493. [01:22:02] Gooned: Just keep it to yourself
  494. [01:22:10] @EpicUmbreon29: Same snake.
  495. [01:22:16] Gooned: There's no need for you
  496. [01:22:18] Gooned: A room mod
  497. [01:22:20] Doggo Plays: I've went and done things in circus maximus
  498. [01:22:21] Gooned: to come on
  499. [01:22:23] Gooned: And start talking shit
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  501. [01:22:28] Gooned: Why the hell are you even a mod
  502. [01:22:36] Gooned: if you're gonna come on and do that
  503. [01:22:41] Gooned: May as well be blacklisted
  504. [01:22:46] Gooned: The way I see it
  505. [01:22:51] Bionic Puppy: but have you considered the fact that the CAP metagame just
  506. [01:22:52] Bionic Puppy: isn't big enough
  507. [01:22:53] Doggo Plays: I think the CAP metagame has some problems in building resources
  508. [01:22:58] Gooned: So
  509. [01:23:00] Gooned: You come in
  510. [01:23:00] Doggo Plays: I'm allowed to have my opinion
  511. [01:23:03] Gooned: And drop snide remarks
  512. [01:23:05] Gooned: To encourage us
  513. [01:23:08] Gooned: To do better
  514. [01:23:12] Gooned: Good plan
  515. [01:23:19] Bionic Puppy: Alright so from an outsiders perspective
  516. [01:23:20] Gooned: I'm sad I didn't think of it myself
  517. [01:23:23] Bionic Puppy: I see heals point
  518. [01:23:26] Doggo Plays: yeah and what you're doing now is a good plan too?
  519. [01:23:27] Bionic Puppy: I see draps point
  520. [01:23:40] Gooned: Ay yo I'm doing more than you
  521. [01:23:48] Gooned: That's a fact
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  523. [01:23:54] Doggo Plays: then go and continue to do more than me
  524. [01:23:57] Gooned: Alright
  525. [01:23:59] Doggo Plays: I would like that very much
  526. [01:23:59] Gooned: and how about you
  527. [01:24:03] Gooned: keep your messages
  528. [01:24:05] Gooned: to yourself
  529. [01:24:09] Gooned: And we can keep it all dandy
  530. [01:24:10] Gooned: ?
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  532. [01:24:15] Gooned: Otherwise
  533. [01:24:19] Gooned: You're gonna have to deal with this
  534. [01:24:21] Gooned: Every time you talk shit
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  536. Only users of rank + and higher can talk.
  537. Because moderated chat is set, you must be of rank Voice or higher to speak in this room.
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  539. [01:24:39] @EpicUmbreon29: Hey everyone. Here's what we're going to do:
  540. [01:24:46] @EpicUmbreon29: We're going to take a few minutes
  541. [01:24:58] @EpicUmbreon29: And we're going to think about the way we're acting
  542. [01:25:02] @EpicUmbreon29: You're better than this.
  543. [01:25:12] %DrapionSwing: Ay nah
  544. [01:25:14] @EpicUmbreon29: There's no reason to be bringing up year-old wounds right now.
  545. [01:25:14] %DrapionSwing: I'm sorry
  546. [01:25:19] %DrapionSwing: I don't come on here
  547. [01:25:21] %DrapionSwing: Every day
  548. [01:25:23] %DrapionSwing: For our own mods
  549. [01:25:27] %DrapionSwing: To shit on it
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  551. [01:25:33] %DrapionSwing: And for me to sit in silence when they do
  552. [01:25:35] @EpicUmbreon29: Then you take that to PMs with HeaL.
  553. +SHSP and @Chloe left
  554. [01:25:49] @EpicUmbreon29: This is a space where you have to set a good example.
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  556. [01:25:56] @EpicUmbreon29: And the same goes for HeaL.
  557. [01:26:09] %DrapionSwing: Ahh there it is
  558. [01:26:11] %DrapionSwing: The big @
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  560. [01:26:23] @HeaLnDeaL: I'm allowed to have my opinion on the state of the CAP metagame
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  562. [01:26:46] @HeaLnDeaL: just because I think things could be better doesn't mean I think it's worthless or not worth the effort
  563. [01:26:52] @EpicUmbreon29: You are absolutely allowed to have your opinion.
  564. [01:26:57] %DrapionSwing: I've told you heal
  565. [01:27:02] @EpicUmbreon29: However, the way in which you express that opinion matters.
  566. [01:27:05] @HeaLnDeaL: but to say that I and I alone have to do it all is not fair
  567. [01:27:06] %DrapionSwing: You spread your opinion the way you did earlier
  568. [01:27:12] %DrapionSwing: Don't expect me to sit and eat it up
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  570. [01:27:46] %DrapionSwing: That's all I have to say regarding the matter
  571. [01:27:49] %DrapionSwing: Anymore
  572. [01:27:57] %DrapionSwing: Next move is yours heal
  573. [01:27:58] @EpicUmbreon29: I highly recommend that you two stop this discussion right now.
  574. [01:28:04] @EpicUmbreon29: This will be going to higher auth.
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