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  1. xxlx2014: but fine .... this is
  2. 2:34pm
  3. xxlx2014: i lost and 200 chips in one hand
  4. 2:34pm
  5. SickMetaGame: means you only paid 0.01 chips to the BBJ
  6. 2:34pm
  7. SickMetaGame: if you sit down at nl100 and lose 50 chips in one hand
  8. 2:33pm
  9. SickMetaGame: The longer you played, helps you.
  10. 2:33pm
  11. xxlx2014: because all time i play in 0.50/1 chips
  12. 2:33pm
  13. SickMetaGame: Losing doesn't nec. help you
  14. 2:33pm
  15. xxlx2014: i lost in table so so mux
  16. 2:33pm
  17. SickMetaGame: because it was collected only as 0.01 BB every flop.
  18. 2:33pm
  19. SickMetaGame: Just a lot of players don't understand that they contributed not too much.
  20. 2:33pm
  21. SickMetaGame: Everyone who played BBJ tables did contribute.
  22. 2:33pm
  23. xxlx2014: and all players
  24. 2:33pm
  25. xxlx2014: yes me to i contributed
  26. 2:33pm
  27. xxlx2014: if betcoin mike decied this this is
  28. 2:33pm
  29. SickMetaGame: contributes to the BBJ
  30. 2:33pm
  31. SickMetaGame: Each flop that yo usee
  32. 2:32pm
  33. SickMetaGame: losing doesn't contribute to the BBJ
  34. 2:32pm
  35. xxlx2014: because not changed nothing
  36. 2:32pm
  37. xxlx2014: u and the rest told not acceptable for the bbj down and this problem
  38. 2:32pm
  39. xxlx2014: yes but comment
  40. 2:32pm
  41. SickMetaGame: Less stress
  42. 2:32pm
  43. SickMetaGame: its easier not to expect anything from this surprise box lol
  44. 2:31pm
  45. xxlx2014: nothing changed if u told for bbjbj or jack hard pot gay
  46. 2:31pm
  47. xxlx2014: recived 4 or 3.68 surprize box
  48. 2:31pm
  49. xxlx2014: play 2 day lost 50 or 30 chips
  50. 2:31pm
  51. xxlx2014: recived hard surprize box
  52. 2:31pm
  53. xxlx2014: no play 4 day
  54. 2:31pm
  55. SickMetaGame: Maybe even gets out of the slums.
  56. 2:30pm
  57. SickMetaGame: I know that mentat will be happy as fuck when he sees this news.
  58. 2:30pm
  59. xxlx2014: recived surprize box today 28
  60. 2:30pm
  61. xxlx2014: told because is imposible
  62. 2:30pm
  63. SickMetaGame: I am explaining to max how to average what he should expect from BBJ distribution.
  64. 2:30pm
  65. SickMetaGame: I am not sure what you are trying to tell me tiki
  66. 2:29pm
  67. xxlx2014: and in surprize box and in affiliate etc
  68. 2:29pm
  69. SickMetaGame: I found PT4 records for half of my volume lol, that's how I averaged some of the above, it was still rough draft.
  70. 2:29pm
  71. xxlx2014: to 240 day
  72. 2:29pm
  73. xxlx2014: betcoin is later to update sick
  74. 2:29pm
  75. SickMetaGame: So you see how someone who put in most of his volume at nl2 and nl4 will contribute a lot less chips to the BBJ than someone who played at higher limits.
  76. 2:29pm
  77. SickMetaGame: 1000 flops at nl2 would have been 0.02 times 1000 = 20 x 0.01 BB = 0.20 chips
  78. 2:28pm
  79. SickMetaGame: it works out like if you played 1000 flops at nl100 you contributed 1000x1 = 1000x 0.01 BB= 10 chips to the BBJ
  80. 2:28pm
  81. SickMetaGame: Maxtheboy08 it was collected 0.01 BB (big blind) each pot that you saw flop, even if you folded on flop without going to the next streets you paid 0.01 BB into the pool
  82. 2:27pm
  83. SickMetaGame: Hi
  84. 2:11pm
  85. xxlx2014: ups guy*
  86. 2:11pm
  87. xxlx2014: hello all gay:)))
  88. 2:10pm
  89. xxlx2014: sex
  90. 11:36am
  91. ntmd8rndvst8r2: =)
  92. 11:36am
  93. ntmd8rndvst8r2: God, I love betcoin. ag
  94. 10:06am
  95. Maxtheboy08: Also how much was the bad beat at!?
  96. 9:58am
  97. Maxtheboy08: Does anyone have any wild guess how much us regs might get from the bad beat!?
  98. 7:41am
  99. BigThangz: prrrrrrrrr
  100. 6:28am
  101. cjmToo: DOXXED everybody.....LOL
  102. 6:23am
  103. roland1991: how the hell do I enter a room>
  104. 6:19am
  105. isnortbooze: He is asking for callers now if you are still here, ohyeah
  106. 6:06am
  107. EyeWonBTC: gn all
  108. 6:02am
  109. SickMetaGame: good night
  110. 5:59am
  111. SickMetaGame: but contributed half to the BBJ, so it will boil down a lot to the limits played
  112. 5:58am
  113. SickMetaGame: but I brought up this limits thing because like almost 20x less hands
  114. 5:58am
  115. SickMetaGame: and now I am even more happy than before
  116. 5:58am
  117. PantzCrabby: thoughts/concerns ?
  118. 5:58am
  119. SickMetaGame: i am roughing up my BBJ thing according to this half of data
  120. 5:58am
  121. PantzCrabby: but a crypto curr that was around 20-30 bux each would be a perfect poker scenerio
  122. 5:58am
  123. SickMetaGame: nl200 400 hands - 3.32 chips
  124. 5:57am
  125. SickMetaGame: nl10 9063 flops 9.63 chips
  126. 5:57am
  127. PantzCrabby: lite coin and ETH are still too high I mean ripple is now at 1.05 cents which is about 11x in last yr or less
  128. 5:56am
  129. PantzCrabby: aside from the tiny dogecoin site that is worthless and has about ten members tops it would seem to me that the one to strike it rich here is going to be the one that has poker that takes smaller crypto currencies
  130. 5:56am
  131. PantzCrabby: another quick q
  132. 5:56am
  133. PantzCrabby: by
  134. 5:55am
  135. PantzCrabby: I bye no means mean to advocate another site but since chat is uncensored I just wanted to say it's a shame for them cuz they have really good software but poor traiffic prob cuz of the orginal s w c losing their license etc
  136. 5:55am
  137. isnortbooze: But I would imagine it would increase some
  138. 5:55am
  139. isnortbooze: I am not sure. Never played there and don't know anything about their business
  140. 5:54am
  141. PantzCrabby: do you think Seals w/ Clubs will pick up on their poker biz ?
  142. 5:54am
  143. PantzCrabby: with poker going to the wayside
  144. 5:54am
  145. isnortbooze: yes
  146. 5:54am
  147. PantzCrabby: question
  148. 5:54am
  149. PantzCrabby: booze
  150. 5:54am
  151. SickMetaGame: making anything more out of it is pointless
  152. 5:53am
  153. SickMetaGame: booze's son named after Dwan's talent
  154. 5:53am
  155. OHYEAH: including tom dwan
  156. 5:53am
  157. OHYEAH: true
  158. 5:53am
  159. isnortbooze: but there are millions of kids named tom
  160. 5:53am
  161. isnortbooze: hahahaha totally
  162. 5:53am
  163. OHYEAH: seems kinda worse
  164. 5:53am
  165. OHYEAH: ok
  166. 5:52am
  167. isnortbooze: Dwan
  168. 5:52am
  169. OHYEAH: whats his name
  170. 5:52am
  171. cozz: Snort me some bonus poker chips booze
  172. 5:52am
  173. isnortbooze: He thinks my kid named after tom dwan is just named Tom. PLease correct him haha
  174. 5:52am
  175. OHYEAH: my gf is sleeping in room down the hall from parents, where the wifi is, i gotta dart down the stairs to the canal to speak openly
  176. 5:51am
  177. OHYEAH: i have no malicious intent for anyone except fuckers
  178. 5:51am
  179. cozz: Or do l lose the bonus
  180. 5:50am
  181. OHYEAH: ive had a bit to drink tonight, i apologizr if i dont get all the facts out perfectly
  182. 5:50am
  183. isnortbooze: He is talking about me right now
  184. 5:50am
  185. OHYEAH: ok
  186. 5:50am
  187. OHYEAH: im hammering his call in line
  188. 5:49am
  189. cozz: I have poker bonuses that need to be freed up. Is this gonna happen.
  190. 5:49am
  191. isnortbooze: before end of segment
  192. 5:48am
  193. isnortbooze: he just said he has calls coming in but he will be taking them soon
  194. 5:47am
  195. SickMetaGame: lol shit
  196. 5:47am
  197. SickMetaGame: ~13 chips from nl10
  198. 5:46am
  199. OHYEAH: im calling
  200. 5:46am
  201. SickMetaGame: looking more
  202. 5:46am
  203. SickMetaGame: I found 30k hands worth of data
  204. 5:46am
  205. SickMetaGame: So I should have around 25 chips BBJ distribution coming from NL25 only. lol
  206. 5:42am
  207. EyeWonBTC: link?
  208. 5:39am
  209. OHYEAH: give me 7 min
  210. 5:38am
  211. OHYEAH: ok
  212. 5:38am
  213. isnortbooze: yes
  214. 5:38am
  215. OHYEAH: is he still talking about it, ill callnow
  216. 5:38am
  217. isnortbooze: He has also gotten some other very well known facts wrong
  218. 5:38am
  219. isnortbooze: He doesn't know about the new announcement for sure
  220. 5:37am
  221. OHYEAH: but it's been a long day for me, I shoudln't call in and I'm not listening now, I listen to the archives normally
  222. 5:37am
  223. OHYEAH: no softballs, just truth
  224. 5:36am
  225. OHYEAH: i would really be happy to have a convo with you, voice/skype/whatever and we could find a way to make it easy to find
  226. 5:35am
  227. OHYEAH: i afraid to go out in the partio and get in some tiype of argument
  228. 5:35am
  229. OHYEAH: i'm at my GFs house right now in FL
  230. 5:35am
  231. isnortbooze: But he either isnt aware of the new announcement or is ignoring it
  232. 5:34am
  233. isnortbooze: Nah I am waiting to go to bed myself
  234. 5:34am
  235. isnortbooze: He has gotten a lot of facts wrong. he should take some investigation tips from you
  236. 5:34am
  237. OHYEAH: ive had very long day
  238. 5:33am
  239. OHYEAH: im not gonna make it long, are you calling
  240. 5:33am
  241. OHYEAH: ill turn it on now booze
  242. 5:33am
  243. EyeWonBTC: Have to go to Bellevue on Fri for surgery
  244. 5:31am
  245. EyeWonBTC: I know NJ has some very nice places. Just joking
  246. 5:31am
  247. isnortbooze: Twitchy are you listening to PFA?
  248. 5:28am
  249. EyeWonBTC: ty
  250. 5:28am
  251. SickMetaGame: it looks like guys are setting sell orders for $4.90
  252. 5:28am
  253. OHYEAH: anyway, Eyewon, let me buy you dinner sime time in the new DT Jersey City, it's beautiful place with some of the best views, unless you're totally anti-urban (which I respect) it's worth a look
  254. 5:28am
  255. SickMetaGame: its orange halted but counter running
  256. 5:27am
  257. SickMetaGame: Exchange is showing countdown
  258. 5:27am
  259. cjmToo: Just don't like cheaters...that's all.
  260. 5:27am
  261. EyeWonBTC: whered you hear it was opening?
  262. 5:27am
  263. cjmToo: Don't know why anybody would give a multi accounter the time of day....
  264. 5:26am
  265. OHYEAH: hey cjmtoo, I'm not sure what's up with you, but fuck you for being one of the biggest pieces of shit I;ve ever come across
  266. 5:26am
  267. SickMetaGame: was just able to log in @eyewon
  268. 5:26am
  269. SickMetaGame: rading is currently halted
  270. Exchange will start in : 2 H:8 M: 23 S
  271. 5:26am
  272. EyeWonBTC: Northern Westchester
  273. 5:25am
  274. OHYEAH: and then Tampa (Middleschool)
  275. 5:25am
  276. cjmToo: Careful.....this guy sounds like a fed, or a rat, or a snitch or something....he'll be asking for your PK next!
  277. 5:25am
  278. OHYEAH: I grew up in hudson valley
  279. 5:25am
  280. EyeWonBTC: Live*
  281. 5:25am
  282. EyeWonBTC: Libe an hour north of NYC now
  283. 5:25am
  284. EyeWonBTC: From Suffolk county Long Island but lived in Brooklyn and Bronx
  285. 5:25am
  286. OHYEAH: Michigan?
  287. 5:24am
  288. OHYEAH: WHere do you live
  289. 5:24am
  290. EyeWonBTC: nor Staten Island. Both are armpits of America
  291. 5:24am
  292. OHYEAH: i forget
  293. 5:24am
  294. OHYEAH: Bronx?
  295. 5:24am
  296. OHYEAH: You live in Queens Eyewon?
  297. 5:24am
  298. EyeWonBTC: I wouldn't live in NJ if you paid me $100K a year. lol
  299. 5:23am
  300. isnortbooze: Yeah I made the Cleveland rocks connection but couldn't figure out where you were going with it
  301. 5:23am
  302. OHYEAH: Was drew carey ref
  303. 5:23am
  304. isnortbooze: Oh hahaha
  305. 5:22am
  306. OHYEAH: @isnort, I thought Cleveland was in mich, my bad
  307. 5:22am
  308. OHYEAH: @eyewon, NJ will have legalized weed within a year, you can play an pokerstsrs, wsop.com. 888.com and soon they will all be sharing liquidity with the UK and (more quickly) PA, DE and NV
  309. 5:21am
  310. isnortbooze: I don't get the reference
  311. 5:20am
  312. OHYEAH: well they rock
  313. 5:19am
  314. isnortbooze: me?
  315. 5:19am
  316. OHYEAH: are you going to try and be the next drew carey
  317. 5:18am
  318. EyeWonBTC: if NY never changes, im "retiring" to CO after i sell 75% of my BTC stack
  319. 5:17am
  320. isnortbooze: haha
  321. 5:17am
  322. OHYEAH: aka mich1
  323. 5:17am
  324. OHYEAH: unless he runs into those michigan hicks, who, I hear are pretty much scum
  325. 5:17am
  326. isnortbooze: that is a big reason for the relocation
  327. 5:16am
  328. isnortbooze: thats for sure
  329. 5:16am
  330. isnortbooze: haha
  331. 5:16am
  332. OHYEAH: Hmmm, I think mini Dwan will certaintly get a much better education in Mich
  333. 5:16am
  334. isnortbooze: :(
  335. 5:16am
  336. SickMetaGame: I am just kidding.
  337. 5:16am
  338. SickMetaGame: finished that sentence
  339. 5:16am
  340. SickMetaGame: michigan1's basement.
  341. 5:16am
  342. EyeWonBTC: CO for legal weed
  343. 5:15am
  344. isnortbooze: Not 100% but possibly michigan
  345. 5:15am
  346. OHYEAH: where are you moving
  347. 5:14am
  348. OHYEAH: mentat in 'central' FL right next to U South FLorida
  349. 5:14am
  350. isnortbooze: right now I do but I am moving
  351. 5:14am
  352. OHYEAH: isnort lives in s FL right?
  353. 5:13am
  354. SickMetaGame: I know '
  355. 5:13am
  356. SickMetaGame: Mentat is with gators
  357. 5:13am
  358. OHYEAH: i meant you
  359. 5:13am
  360. isnortbooze: Last time I spoke to him he was playing on the other bitcoin site
  361. 5:13am
  362. SickMetaGame: haha
  363. 5:13am
  364. OHYEAH: i mean SMG, not mentat
  365. 5:13am
  366. OHYEAH: that shit would probably change his life even more than mentat how lives in the middle of the amazon
  367. 5:13am
  368. isnortbooze: When the funds are dispersed I will make sure he gets unbanned to collect his share
  369. 5:12am
  370. OHYEAH: but i worry about ungod, can you get his account unbanned and let him know maybe he'll get paid for the BBJP stuff
  371. 5:12am
  372. OHYEAH: not for a while though
  373. 5:11am
  374. OHYEAH: isnort, i think we'll be friends one day
  375. 5:11am
  376. isnortbooze: He is as okay as ungod can be. I believe he is staying with friends or rented a room. Cant remember.
  377. 5:11am
  378. OHYEAH: I was exagerating about Mentats roomate, but he def lived within ~2-3miles of the crazy guy that was shooting people. very sad
  379. 5:10am
  380. EyeWonBTC: It's kinda fun around the truly fucking nuts
  381. 5:09am
  382. OHYEAH: is he with family in NC
  383. 5:09am
  384. SickMetaGame: That's likely, wouldn't be surprising.
  385. 5:09am
  386. EyeWonBTC: I confirm that I was in the psych ward.
  387. 5:09am
  388. OHYEAH: isnort, is ungod ok
  389. 5:09am
  390. SickMetaGame: he'd be here already
  391. 5:09am
  392. SickMetaGame: you should have scream (MENTAT BETCOIN IS ABOUT to dISTRIBUTE BBJ)
  393. 5:09am
  394. OHYEAH: i think he was roomates with the Tampa Serial Killer
  395. 5:09am
  396. EyeWonBTC: 1/9 - $1.5K NLO8
  397. 5:09am
  398. isnortbooze: I can confirm that ungod was in a mental institution recently but he is out now
  399. 5:08am
  400. OHYEAH: i literally drove past mentats home a few hours ago
  401. 5:08am
  402. SickMetaGame: haven't seen him around
  403. 5:08am
  404. OHYEAH: is andrew really gone
  405. 5:08am
  406. SickMetaGame: mentat was saying that ungod was in a bin but I think that was a troll
  407. 5:08am
  408. EyeWonBTC: joking. hope you are well
  409. 5:08am
  410. SickMetaGame: oh he was going for the guiness record
  411. 5:07am
  412. OHYEAH: i heard malone was injured in forklift accident involving adjustable hoop
  413. 5:07am
  414. EyeWonBTC: lol
  415. 5:07am
  416. StareYouDown: Look at you with a smile on your face eyewonbtc :)
  417. 5:07am
  418. EyeWonBTC: Look what the wind blew in. lol
  419. 5:07am
  420. SickMetaGame: malone is currently recovering after he tried to dunk over 6'9 dude
  421. 5:07am
  422. StareYouDown: I heard michigan is a highroller cash game grinder
  423. 5:07am
  424. OHYEAH: prag=PostMalone
  425. 5:06am
  426. OHYEAH: can I get an ungod and prag update
  427. 5:06am
  428. StareYouDown: twitter sent me here.
  429. 5:06am
  430. OHYEAH: Hey so now that I'm free..
  431. 5:06am
  432. SickMetaGame: nice
  433. 5:06am
  434. StareYouDown: cheeese
  435. 5:06am
  436. SickMetaGame: break bread
  437. 5:06am
  438. SickMetaGame: O.O
  439. 5:06am
  440. StareYouDown: O.o
  441. 5:06am
  442. StareYouDown: lurking
  443. 5:06am
  444. SickMetaGame: Nikker
  445. 5:06am
  446. SickMetaGame: lol lurk is on so hard
  447. 5:05am
  448. StareYouDown: Hello everyone.
  449. 5:01am
  450. EyeWonBTC: inevitable
  451. 5:01am
  452. SickMetaGame: that will follow
  453. 5:01am
  454. SickMetaGame: Lol but it is fitting to your "bitch and moaning" statement earlier.
  455. 5:00am
  456. SickMetaGame: ding is in for a disappointment when he realizes that he played most of his volume at PLO tables that does not include bad beat jackpot
  457. 4:59am
  458. SickMetaGame: lasted for 15 minutes
  459. 4:59am
  460. SickMetaGame: I logged in that day when it was $400
  461. 4:58am
  462. SickMetaGame: lol
  463. 4:58am
  464. EyeWonBTC: its absurd and very unreassuring. lol
  465. 4:58am
  466. SickMetaGame: it work out
  467. 4:58am
  468. SickMetaGame: Well if you get to dump them at $5
  469. 4:58am
  470. SickMetaGame: just these updates "soon" that takes days make you wait for nothing lol
  471. 4:58am
  472. EyeWonBTC: need $2+ to break even with BTC price rise
  473. 4:58am
  474. SickMetaGame: so wouldn't want to sleep through it
  475. 4:58am
  476. SickMetaGame: They should be up just now
  477. 4:57am
  478. SickMetaGame: I am nowhere near that, it is not the pressure due to money but like
  479. 4:57am
  480. EyeWonBTC: Im in for 1 BTC
  481. 4:57am
  482. SickMetaGame: but now I feel conflicted
  483. 4:57am
  484. SickMetaGame: I was planning on going and sleep
  485. 4:57am
  486. SickMetaGame: This falcon platform is a solid pressure
  487. 4:56am
  488. SickMetaGame: had to run
  489. 4:56am
  490. SickMetaGame: after winning $1700 in like two nights
  491. 4:56am
  492. SickMetaGame: disapparead again
  493. 4:56am
  494. SickMetaGame: Talked to him a little before christmas
  495. 4:55am
  496. SickMetaGame: ...
  497. 4:55am
  498. SickMetaGame: lol yeah SYD
  499. 4:55am
  500. EyeWonBTC: got here a little after SYD
  501. 4:54am
  502. EyeWonBTC: ok 6 months before me
  503. 4:54am
  504. SickMetaGame: and poker was running
  505. 4:54am
  506. SickMetaGame: so I came here 2014 september
  507. 4:53am
  508. EyeWonBTC: When did betcoin open? 1st have poker? just interested.
  509. 4:53am
  510. SickMetaGame: so that was like
  511. 4:53am
  512. SickMetaGame: Created: 3 years 2 months ago
  513. 4:52am
  514. SickMetaGame: but like a few months in
  515. 4:52am
  516. SickMetaGame: oh yeah I came when poker was up and running already
  517. 4:52am
  518. EyeWonBTC: Got here March, 2015 and don't recall if it existed then.
  519. 4:52am
  520. SickMetaGame: well when I started playing it all was running already
  521. 4:52am
  522. SickMetaGame: nah it all happened same time, didn't it.
  523. 4:51am
  524. EyeWonBTC: When did the BBJ start? Was it before WPN integration?
  525. 4:48am
  526. isnortbooze: ha
  527. 4:48am
  528. SickMetaGame: sure is
  529. 4:48am
  530. SickMetaGame: hahaha
  531. 4:48am
  532. SickMetaGame: samatakin decent volume
  533. 4:48am
  534. EyeWonBTC: He's probably making Millions covering high school games
  535. 4:48am
  536. SickMetaGame: . was grinding hard a few years back too
  537. 4:47am
  538. SickMetaGame: players who legit are going to have decent payouts coming from this are like BCTitz, mentat, ungod, mesz21 lol
  539. 4:47am
  540. SickMetaGame: and usually running after giving up his chips not the other way around
  541. 4:46am
  542. SickMetaGame: His cash volume was mainly hit and running plo games
  543. 4:46am
  544. SickMetaGame: lol
  545. 4:46am
  546. EyeWonBTC: jonny will be choking on McChicken's if he ever sees this and thinks he has a claim
  547. 4:39am
  548. hamrhank666: how many u have
  549. 4:39am
  550. SickMetaGame: johnny, trill and michigan have like 10k accounts to log through
  551. 4:38am
  552. OHYEAH: this one
  553. 4:38am
  554. OHYEAH: for the record, I've had over 100 accounts banned, I've only ever played poker or had funds in one single account
  555. 4:38am
  556. isnortbooze: haha
  557. 4:38am
  558. OHYEAH: michigan1 would have to collect from 47+ accounts
  559. 4:38am
  560. isnortbooze: If a player was banned for saying negative things he should get his contribution, I think. If he was banned for collusion or multi-accounting thats a different story.
  561. 4:37am
  562. Betcoin: Thanks guys. Great feedback.
  563. 4:37am
  564. EyeWonBTC: and a bunch more should be banned beforehand
  565. 4:36am
  566. EyeWonBTC: again, all banned players should get nothing. They forfeit everything
  567. 4:36am
  568. SickMetaGame: log in disabled*
  569. 4:35am
  570. SickMetaGame: They should be launching just now though because a row people saw exchange in halt.
  571. 4:35am
  572. SickMetaGame: ok NVM new posts are saying its disabled again
  573. 4:35am
  574. OHYEAH: xiao is on back burner
  575. 4:35am
  576. OHYEAH: one step for sure
  577. 4:34am
  578. OHYEAH: agree Eye
  579. 4:34am
  580. EyeWonBTC: 1 step at a time'
  581. 4:34am
  582. OHYEAH: (I am fairly certain his account was not closed)
  583. 4:34am
  584. EyeWonBTC: havent tried since yesterday
  585. 4:34am
  586. OHYEAH: one more thing: If xiaoxiao/harryjr is still an affiliate, his fees should be used to pay back the players he stole from (which Betcoin said they would do from the beginning)
  587. 4:34am
  588. SickMetaGame: but like quite a few of them
  589. 4:34am
  590. SickMetaGame: But I can't log in
  591. 4:33am
  592. SickMetaGame: Well I am attempting to get into Falcon platform since FUDsters are saying there is a countdown to the exchange and its in halt.
  593. 4:33am
  594. EyeWonBTC: Give credit where credit is due
  595. 4:32am
  596. SickMetaGame: True
  597. 4:32am
  598. EyeWonBTC: 99.9% of players will never have access to their ring game hands
  599. 4:32am
  600. Betcoin: We aim to make some changes here EyeWonBTC. Thank you for that and we will get better everyday.
  601. 4:32am
  602. SickMetaGame: Thus different % payouts too 20%, 50% and 100%
  603. 4:32am
  604. SickMetaGame: so higher limits contributed more money per hand than lower limits.
  605. 4:31am
  606. SickMetaGame: My summary was that jackpot 0.01 BB was collected from every player who saw hand until flop.
  607. 4:30am
  608. EyeWonBTC: This feels like the fucking Twilight Zone with an actual support member here and giving a shit and being open and honest.
  609. 4:28am
  610. Betcoin: For the record.
  611. 4:28am
  612. Betcoin: Jessica is still with us but Andrew no longer works here.
  613. 4:28am
  614. Betcoin: It is not OHYEAH and I can assure you that you and your feedback is welcome.
  615. 4:28am
  616. OHYEAH: :)
  617. 4:27am
  618. OHYEAH: I gotta run, I hope this is real and you guys can get your shit together, but if this is Andrew/Jessica trying to just make me stfu and go away again, you'll surely get the same result as last 50 times you tried
  619. 4:26am
  620. Betcoin: Well I see your concern very clearly.
  621. 4:26am
  622. OHYEAH: so much shit has happened, it's tough to keep track of
  623. 4:26am
  624. SickMetaGame: rake BBJ*
  625. 4:25am
  626. OHYEAH: that post was nov 2015
  627. 4:25am
  628. SickMetaGame: someone could have played 10k hands at nl1000 and rake more than someone who played 100k hands at nl2
  629. 4:25am
  630. SickMetaGame: so like at nl25 you pay 0.0025 while at nl1000 you pay 1 chip
  631. 4:25am
  632. Betcoin: Let me see the specific post
  633. 4:25am
  634. SickMetaGame: it is a Big Blind
  635. 4:25am
  636. SickMetaGame: yes eyewon but not chip
  637. 4:25am
  638. Betcoin: This is very thorough OHYEAH
  639. 4:25am
  640. SickMetaGame: Anyway, according to PT4 it appears that 0.01 BB was collected into pot
  641. 4:25am
  642. EyeWonBTC: Yes .01 from each player
  643. 4:24am
  644. OHYEAH: specific post about BBJP problem : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=386266.msg13028300#msg13028300
  645. 4:24am
  646. SickMetaGame: so 4x 0.01 BB went into JP fund
  647. 4:24am
  648. SickMetaGame: So here we had 4 players come to the flop
  649. 4:24am
  650. EyeWonBTC: you can hold your breath twitchy
  651. 4:24am
  652. SickMetaGame: SickMetaGame shows 7s Ks (Three of a Kind, Kings)
  653. (Pre 65%, Flop 22%, Turn 17%) ungod shows 5s Kc (Full House, Kings full of Fives)
  654. (Pre 35%, Flop 78%, Turn 83%) ungod wins 171.68 BB
  655. 0.04 BB was deducted from the pot for the jackpot.
  656. 4:24am
  657. OHYEAH: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1322261.msg13507632#msg13507632
  658. 4:23am
  659. EyeWonBTC: For the lead: https://imgur.com/a/pBneu
  660. 4:23am
  661. OHYEAH: Here's some reading material for you to catch up on Brandon: https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/showthread.php?11404-Betcoin-ag-Scams-...
  662. 4:23am
  663. PantzCrabby: Here u all chill out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2GTuwePCTk&list=PLLz_MlP0_Q5mDtaCC8...
  664. 4:23am
  665. SickMetaGame: so players would still get something
  666. 4:23am
  667. SickMetaGame: But it also gets reseeded
  668. 4:22am
  669. OHYEAH: yeah
  670. 4:22am
  671. SickMetaGame: 20%
  672. 4:22am
  673. OHYEAH: it was hit once for like 10% i think
  674. 4:22am
  675. SickMetaGame: so like me and op paid 0.01 BB
  676. 4:22am
  677. SickMetaGame: and PT4 shows that 0.02 BB was collected into JP funds
  678. 4:22am
  679. SickMetaGame: This hand was played at nl50
  680. 4:22am
  681. OHYEAH: OHYEAH there is
  682. 4:22am
  683. Betcoin: What happened there? Is there information on this?
  684. 4:22am
  685. OHYEAH: it could have changed
  686. 4:22am
  687. OHYEAH: at least prior to that time i'm pretty sure it was a flat .01 mbtc per hand
  688. 4:21am
  689. SickMetaGame: I think I should remember all of the dramas.
  690. 4:21am
  691. OHYEAH: where they had the "there is no BBJP Freeroll"
  692. 4:21am
  693. SickMetaGame: yes
  694. 4:21am
  695. OHYEAH: remember the phantom BBJP drama?
  696. 4:21am
  697. SickMetaGame: I dig up one of my old cash stake threads lol
  698. 4:21am
  699. OHYEAH: oh really
  700. 4:21am
  701. SickMetaGame: not according to PT tho
  702. 4:21am
  703. OHYEAH: smg, I'm almost certain it was 0.01 mbtc per hand
  704. 4:21am
  705. SickMetaGame: SickMetaGame shows Ac As (One Pair, Aces)
  706. (Pre 80%, Flop 11%, Turn 5%) etParis wins 239.92 BB
  707. 0.02 BB was deducted from the pot for the jackpot.
  708. 4:20am
  709. EyeWonBTC: Rules most probably changed from what is listed now. Makes things that much more complicated if they did.
  710. 4:17am
  711. SickMetaGame: don't take me too seriously right now. I might be off track here because I am not looking at actual hand.
  712. 4:16am
  713. PantzCrabby: I had a couple nice referrals who are now bye bye :(
  714. 4:15am
  715. SickMetaGame: whatever it was on the pic
  716. 4:15am
  717. SickMetaGame: 0.1 i mean
  718. 4:15am
  719. SickMetaGame: cause if it was 0.01 would mean I paid 700 chips in 70k hands and that doesn't sound right.
  720. 4:15am
  721. SickMetaGame: still think that 0.01 wasn't chip value but 0.01bb
  722. 4:15am
  723. Betcoin: That can be done.
  724. 4:14am
  725. PantzCrabby: I have the playlist
  726. 4:14am
  727. OHYEAH: account for every mBtc, how many players were paid, who was paid the most
  728. 4:14am
  729. PantzCrabby: Anyone care to listen to some quality soul music w/ me ?
  730. 4:14am
  731. Gradybaby: third party have to be unaffiliated with casino or mucho bitching will ensue even if he is accurate and honest
  732. 4:14am
  733. Gradybaby: if you have stake in or know anyone with stake in it youd be unfairly bias and would be compromised
  734. 4:13am
  735. Betcoin: I like that idea OHYEAH
  736. 4:13am
  737. PantzCrabby: have a minor in mathematics and should have a major just a bit shy
  738. 4:13am
  739. OHYEAH: michael shackleford, Allen Kessler come to mind
  740. 4:13am
  741. PantzCrabby: I have made a post about it already volunterring
  742. 4:13am
  743. Gradybaby: third party great idea
  744. 4:13am
  745. PantzCrabby: that could be me
  746. 4:13am
  747. OHYEAH: I really think you guys should run your numbers, find an unbiased third party with a very good background in poker and math and run the numbers by him, and get him to publicly approve it
  748. 4:12am
  749. EyeWonBTC: Big props for Brandon
  750. 4:11am
  751. Gradybaby: I would love to play here more but my deposit has been stuck unconfirmed for over a month now smh....guess i shoulda checked the fees...fuckin' btc futures not so bright
  752. 4:10am
  753. Betcoin: If I had a Betcoin name your advice would have been followed.
  754. 4:10am
  755. OHYEAH: Cool
  756. 4:09am
  757. Betcoin: My name is Brandon and I am one of the new customer support reps.
  758. 4:09am
  759. OHYEAH: and go back to Betcoin [Name] so we know who we're talking to
  760. 4:09am
  761. OHYEAH: Can you tell me your name
  762. 4:08am
  763. PantzCrabby: I mean.........isn't this what is all about ?
  764. 4:08am
  765. Betcoin: And everyone. Anything we can do to improve or feedback, we want to hear it.
  766. 4:08am
  767. PantzCrabby: ain't you people got some poker to play?
  768. 4:08am
  769. OHYEAH: I've kind of always done that anyway :)
  770. 4:08am
  771. EyeWonBTC: If you can'r beat em, join em
  772. 4:07am
  773. Betcoin: OHYEAH as we move forward we would like to invite you to provide your feedback, thoughts, insights anytime.
  774. 4:06am
  775. isnortbooze: Thanks twitchy. Im sure that was a big topic for tonight
  776. 4:05am
  777. SickMetaGame: thanks man
  778. 4:05am
  779. SickMetaGame: So in other words OHYEAH just said that my networth will be doubled second week of 2018
  780. 4:05am
  781. OHYEAH: (im posting on pfa booze, im not sure if i can call in to discuss it tonight live, but Ill text todd and make sure he sees recent news)
  782. 4:05am
  783. OHYEAH: cool
  784. 4:04am
  785. PantzCrabby: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sswaLbi9NF8
  786. 4:04am
  787. Betcoin: We have records of all hands played, rake etc.
  788. 4:04am
  789. isnortbooze: I think each player makes the most sense
  790. 4:04am
  791. OHYEAH: do you guys actually have all the HHs and someone who knows how to use tracking software?
  792. 4:04am
  793. PantzCrabby: what if i take a few out? stopping men in flight
  794. 4:04am
  795. Betcoin: The thought was each player, but open to suggestions.
  796. 4:03am
  797. OHYEAH: either is fair
  798. 4:03am
  799. Betcoin: Each player OHYEAH
  800. 4:03am
  801. OHYEAH: or does the winner of the hand get credit for .01 mbtc
  802. 4:03am
  803. PantzCrabby: sonny boy
  804. 4:03am
  805. PantzCrabby: yes but oh yea it will have to be configured using market value
  806. 4:03am
  807. Betcoin: I believe that is corrected, please don't quote me exactly. I will need to confirm.
  808. 4:03am
  809. OHYEAH: so does each player get credit for .01 mbtc/number of players dealt in
  810. 4:03am
  811. isnortbooze: 2m2mm is one of my favorite shows. I still watch the whole season like twice a year
  812. 4:02am
  813. OHYEAH: you collected .01 mbtc per hand
  814. 4:02am
  815. PantzCrabby: lol
  816. 4:02am
  817. PantzCrabby: how about that booze ? ^^^^^
  818. 4:02am
  819. hamrhank666: it was nvr gonna get pd if u hit it anyways
  820. 4:02am
  821. PantzCrabby: this main chat has always been a source of stress relief ya know? We don't have a room with whiffle ball bats n' stuff like on 2Months2Million we just have this damn chat
  822. 4:02am
  823. Betcoin: We will need to discuss that as we want to make sure that everyone who contributed no matter how long ago gets their share.
  824. 4:02am
  825. OHYEAH: also, you'll have a hell of a time doing all the math, and deciding how to do the math
  826. 4:02am
  827. hamrhank666: then why was bb inactive when i hit it
  828. 4:01am
  829. OHYEAH: especially given the fact that so many will be very small ammounts
  830. 4:01am
  831. Betcoin: These are some great points on this post OHYEAH.
  832. 4:01am
  833. OHYEAH: I think it's ok to have a reasonable time period
  834. 4:01am
  835. PantzCrabby: I say Bronze 2 and up
  836. 4:00am
  837. Betcoin: But what if the player comes in after that? Wold you be ok with that?
  838. 4:00am
  839. PantzCrabby: lol jk
  840. 4:00am
  841. PantzCrabby: I'll crack some heads for a small fee
  842. 4:00am
  843. PantzCrabby: @Betcoin do you guys need some muscle ?
  844. 4:00am
  845. OHYEAH: perhaps any unclaimed funds after one year goes back to community
  846. 4:00am
  847. Betcoin: Agreed EyeWonBTC it will be done right.
  848. 4:00am
  849. hamrhank666: ill second that
  850. 4:00am
  851. OHYEAH: There is no perfect solution, but yeah, I think you guys are on the right track, there will certainly be a significant ammount of unclaimed funds
  852. 4:00am
  853. EyeWonBTC: ^^\
  854. 4:00am
  855. PantzCrabby: if they are banned then fuck em'
  856. 3:59am
  857. EyeWonBTC: It will be extremely complicated and should take awhile. There is no rush whatsoever.
  858. 3:59am
  859. PantzCrabby: no
  860. 3:59am
  861. Betcoin: And we can contact accounts as well.
  862. 3:59am
  863. Betcoin: Yes
  864. 3:59am
  865. PantzCrabby: sounds best
  866. 3:59am
  867. isnortbooze: If the accounts are banned, perhaps they can get unbanned to collect their contributions
  868. 3:59am
  869. Betcoin: Returning the funds to those who contributed exactly.
  870. 3:59am
  871. Betcoin: That's the right thing to do.
  872. 3:59am
  873. PantzCrabby: man it sounds complicated to me
  874. 3:59am
  875. Betcoin: But they contributed to it and should be paid out accordingly.
  876. 3:58am
  877. hamrhank666: read that chat betcoin
  878. 3:58am
  879. OHYEAH: and accounts that people have forgotten about over the years
  880. 3:58am
  881. hamrhank666: so igot fkd 2yrs ago outta bad beat
  882. 3:58am
  883. OHYEAH: I would guess a rather large % of the funds would go to banned accounts
  884. 3:58am
  885. Betcoin: What is the issue OHYEAH?
  886. 3:58am
  887. isnortbooze: Twitchy, hurry up and get your post up before PFA starts
  888. 3:58am
  889. PantzCrabby: ohyea don't be a dick man
  890. 3:58am
  891. OHYEAH: there is an issue with simply returning it directly to players based on cash game rake played
  892. 3:58am
  893. Betcoin: We can assure everyone of that.
  894. 3:58am
  895. PantzCrabby: the most whining and troll posting
  896. 3:58am
  897. Betcoin: It will be handled correctly OHYEAH.
  898. 3:57am
  899. PantzCrabby: let's wait on SMG he was doing the best cheerleading
  900. 3:57am
  901. OHYEAH: If you handle this bbjp thing correctly, I will be the first to say so
  902. 3:57am
  903. isnortbooze: Thanks buddy. It was hard to stay away for so long
  904. 3:57am
  905. hamrhank666: he was a house player
  906. 3:57am
  907. PantzCrabby: wait
  908. 3:57am
  909. PantzCrabby: we are all ears
  910. 3:57am
  911. PantzCrabby: kick it betcoin
  912. 3:57am
  913. EyeWonBTC: I'll be completely honest. I was very worried for booze. He had the most to lose.
  914. 3:57am
  915. PantzCrabby: loophole
  916. 3:57am
  917. Betcoin: I have now read it not in perfect detail but will share it and can address some things here if you would like.
  918. 3:57am
  919. PantzCrabby: and there whitin lies the hold hank
  920. 3:57am
  921. OHYEAH: if you're not, I'll find out when Jessica logs on after her 3rd bottle of chardonay and starts thanking me for all the players who sign up bc of me
  922. 3:56am
  923. PantzCrabby: rhank
  924. 3:56am
  925. PantzCrabby: they don't hammer
  926. 3:56am
  927. hamrhank666: why do u peopleget partif u didnt play cash games
  928. 3:56am
  929. OHYEAH: I will be happy
  930. 3:56am
  931. PantzCrabby: think about it :)
  932. 3:56am
  933. OHYEAH: if you're really new
  934. 3:56am
  935. PantzCrabby: player ABC u have 4.9 chips coming or you can have 4 now if you sign your affidavit here
  936. 3:55am
  937. Betcoin: that let me see.
  938. 3:55am
  939. Betcoin: I have not read
  940. 3:55am
  941. PantzCrabby: settle
  942. 3:55am
  943. PantzCrabby: lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
  944. 3:55am
  945. PantzCrabby: @Betcoin now what you should do is like Rapid Refund
  946. 3:55am
  947. OHYEAH: Have you read that?
  948. 3:55am
  949. OHYEAH: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1322261.msg13507632#msg13507632
  950. 3:55am
  951. Betcoin: We have a new commitment to our great players. I researched some of your history and besides some spam you were delivering some good points.
  952. 3:55am
  953. isnortbooze: haha
  954. 3:55am
  955. OHYEAH: you're unbanning me and not telling me what a waste of life I am
  956. 3:54am
  957. SickMetaGame: also eyewon, falcon has a countdown - exchange in halt
  958. 3:54am
  959. OHYEAH: is this really a new Betcoin ?
  960. 3:54am
  961. Betcoin: Hello OHYEAH
  962. 3:54am
  963. OHYEAH: Well I'll be
  964. 3:54am
  965. SickMetaGame: OHYEAH
  966. 3:54am
  967. PantzCrabby: yes sir
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