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  1. Logs:
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  3. For reference, Mapdaemon restarted the game at:
  4. Starting up. 17:27.13
  5. ---------------------
  6. Roughly 180 seconds from then is when the round "officially" starts.
  7. [17:30:26]DEBUG: had Alien enabled, so we are drafting them. | This is the first log indicating players are being assigned roles for this round, and the round officially begins around this time.
  8.  
  9. Queen ordering her children in regards too LZ1 -
  10. [17:38:57]HIVEMIND: (Queen) : Can I get another tour of LZ1?
  11. [17:39:10]HIVEMIND: (Queen) : It looks different than when we conquered the planet
  12. [17:39:49]HIVEMIND: (Queen) : East please
  13. [17:39:52]HIVEMIND: (Queen) : East of LZ1
  14. [17:40:00]HIVEMIND: (Queen) : No, through the landing pad
  15. [17:40:11]HIVEMIND: (Queen) : Break that fence
  16. [17:40:17]HIVEMIND: (Queen) : Where does it lead to
  17. [17:40:23]HIVEMIND: (Queen) : Ah I see.
  18. [17:40:29]HIVEMIND: (Queen) : Thank you
  19.  
  20. - A little later, upon realizing there are Robots near LZ1 (An event was being run, to which Robots were being held near the LZ which caught the hives attention) -
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  22. [17:50:33]HIVEMIND: (Queen) : A robot!
  23. [17:50:48]HIVEMIND: (Queen) : ACtually keep it there.
  24. [17:50:55]HIVEMIND: (Queen) : We can watch over it more easily.
  25. [17:51:00]HIVEMIND: (Queen) : Hmm.
  26. [17:51:16]HIVEMIND: (Queen) : Can I get a sentinel or spitter to aerodromes.
  27. [17:51:20]HIVEMIND: (Queen) : To melt something for me.
  28. [17:51:41]HIVEMIND: (Queen) : 546 my baby.
  29. [17:51:47]HIVEMIND: (Queen) : Head to the east aerodromehangar.
  30. [17:51:52]HIVEMIND: (Queen) : Thank you.
  31. [17:51:55]HIVEMIND: (Queen) : East
  32. [17:51:58]HIVEMIND: (Queen) : Other hangar.
  33. [17:52:09]HIVEMIND: (Queen) : Melt into it if possible.
  34. [17:52:14]HIVEMIND: (Queen) : Hmm.
  35. [17:52:21]HIVEMIND: (Queen) : Melt the button?
  36.  
  37. - All logs regarding the Queen and ordering her hive to LZ1 occur a bit before the Marines finally land -
  38.  
  39. First contact between Xenos and Marines occurs in logs at -
  40. [17:57:39]ATTACK: Young Crusher (869) xeno charged Georg
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  42. Original ahelps made by Wanda and another player upon encountering the Hive at LZ1, and the discussion that ensues between the players and staff, as well as Grimreaperx15/Emerald Blood -
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  44. [18:01:34]ADMIN: HELP: ColonelCorazon/(Wanda 'Lazarus' Fisher): is xenos camping LZ1 and comms legit? Because that's exactly what we just experienced. - heard by 10 non-AFK admins.
  45. [18:01:44]ADMIN: Grimreaperx15 has used 'Mark' on the Adminhelp from *no key*/(Wanda 'Lazarus' Fisher).
  46.  
  47. [18:01:56]ADMIN: HELP: (Lukas Schaffer): The xenos were camping on top of lz1 and whiped us. They completely ignored all the other squads so they could rush the console. - heard by 10 non-AFK admins.
  48. [18:02:03]ADMIN: Frans_Feiffer has used 'Mark' on the Adminhelp from (Lukas Schaffer).
  49. [18:02:52]ADMIN: PM: Frans_Feiffer/(Frans Feiffer)->(Lukas Schaffer): Working on handling right now, if you have anything you'd like to add so we can solve the situation sooner, that would be lovely. OTherwise, enjoy the rest of your round my man.
  50. [18:03:31]ADMIN: PM: (Lukas Schaffer)->Frans_Feiffer/(Frans Feiffer): I'm dead. The crusher broke down the lz wall before we landed and charged us. Then they had all there t3s at tcomms
  51.  
  52. [18:02:14]ADMIN: PM: Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth)->ColonelCorazon/(Wanda 'Lazarus' Fisher): They weren't at LZ1 proper, the last ruling I heard was that as long as they're not actually ON LZ1, it's fine.
  53. [18:02:31]ADMIN: PM: ColonelCorazon/(Wanda 'Lazarus' Fisher)->Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth): crusher immediately charged into us as we landed, and a lurker was waiting for me at comms :/
  54. [18:02:41]ADMIN: PM: Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth)->ColonelCorazon/(Wanda 'Lazarus' Fisher): I will get clarification.
  55. [18:02:57]ADMIN: PM: ColonelCorazon/(Wanda 'Lazarus' Fisher)->Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth): honestly, I've seen a lot of xenos pushing it on LZ1 before and this was the worst I've ever seen. We had no chance whatsoever.
  56. [18:03:15]ADMIN: MOD: Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth) : Emerald, ruling please. Crusher attacked LZ1 the moment it landed, and xenos were otherwise attacking the moment the Marines landed. Meta?
  57. [18:03:32]ADMIN: MOD: Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth) : The entire landing Marine Forceis dead already.
  58. [18:03:34]ADMIN: MOD: Emerald Blood/(U.M.T.C. 71a) : IC, they can be around LZ when it lands
  59. [18:03:43]ADMIN: MOD: Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth) : Understood.
  60. [18:03:49]ADMIN: MOD: Emerald Blood/(U.M.T.C. 71a) : No one was defending LZ1, it was their fault
  61. [18:03:57]ADMIN: MOD: Emerald Blood/(U.M.T.C. 71a) : Literally they had a huge wall as well
  62. [18:04:46]ADMIN: PM: Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth)->ColonelCorazon/(Wanda 'Lazarus' Fisher): Alright, I apologize but the official ruling is that it's an IC issue. The xenos are allowed to be anywhere expect directly on the LZ.
  63. [18:04:49]ADMIN: PM: ColonelCorazon/(Wanda 'Lazarus' Fisher)->Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth): I know the rules for xenos on Ice, and they can be in the Aerodome, but there was a shit ton of them just to the left of LZ1. A Charlie got crushed within 10 seconds of us landing. I don't how any of what just happened can be fair. :/
  64. [18:05:20]ADMIN: PM: ColonelCorazon/(Wanda 'Lazarus' Fisher)->Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth): They were in fact on LZ1. Crusher immediately ran in and slammed a Charlie before we passed the Shiva sign.
  65. [18:05:26]ADMIN: PM: Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth)->ColonelCorazon/(Wanda 'Lazarus' Fisher): I know, I saw it, but I just got an official ruling. I'm sorry for the trouble.
  66. [18:05:46]ADMIN: PM: ColonelCorazon/(Wanda 'Lazarus' Fisher)->Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth): I know, but I am saying that that the Crusher was indeed in LZ1.
  67. [18:06:37]ADMIN: PM: Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth)->ColonelCorazon/(Wanda 'Lazarus' Fisher): It was close, but I didn't see it on the LZ until the dropship actually landed. I understand your concern, but it was already ruled on by the highest court, so to speak.
  68. [18:06:49]ADMIN: PM: ColonelCorazon/(Wanda 'Lazarus' Fisher)->Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth): so check out the wall at LZ1, the weird random spawning one just left of the Shiva sign two xenos were there and a crusher ran in the second our SL got to the Shiva sign
  69. [18:07:41]ADMIN: PM: Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth)->ColonelCorazon/(Wanda 'Lazarus' Fisher): Yeah, I saw that, but it was technically after you landed. Again, I've been told it was acceptable. I really do apologize, but there isn't much I can do about it.
  70. [18:09:05]ADMIN: PM: ColonelCorazon/(Wanda 'Lazarus' Fisher)->Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth): There was absolutely nothing fair about xenos camping where they were. Admins need to clarify exactly what is considered LZ1 then. I'm not looking for trouble, I'd genuinely like to discuss this with whoever did decided that was fine.
  71. [18:09:22]ADMIN: PM: Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth)->ColonelCorazon/(Wanda 'Lazarus' Fisher): I'll check, please standby.
  72. [18:09:33]ADMIN: PM: ColonelCorazon/(Wanda 'Lazarus' Fisher)->Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth): thanks reaper!
  73. [18:10:14]ADMIN: MOD: Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth) : Emerald, this player disagrees with your decision. I don't actually know what the protocol is for that, since generally it's escalated to whoever is in charge of whatever, but you're kinda on the top here.
  74. [18:10:19]ADMIN: MOD: Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth) : What do I tell them?
  75. [18:10:41]ADMIN: MOD: Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth) : They think the xenos were meta-ing by being at LZ1.
  76. [18:10:42]ADMIN: MOD: Emerald Blood/(U.M.T.C. 71a) : What do they disagree about
  77. [18:10:48]ADMIN: MOD: Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth) : And that it was unfair, etc.
  78. [18:11:14]ADMIN: MOD: Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth) : They asked to discuss it with you.
  79. [18:11:37]ADMIN: MOD: Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth) : And I was not really sure protocol here, since normally it'd be a Staff Report.
  80. [18:11:39]ADMIN: MOD: Emerald Blood/(U.M.T.C. 71a) : If they have a huge problem with it, they can make a report, but I'm not doing anything about it OOCly
  81. [18:11:48]ADMIN: MOD: Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth) : Understood, I'll tell them to file a Staff Report.
  82. [18:12:29]ADMIN: PM: Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth)->ColonelCorazon/(Wanda 'Lazarus' Fisher): Okay, I've spoken with them, and the appropriate route here is to file a Staff Report.
  83. [18:13:16]ADMIN: PM: ColonelCorazon/(Wanda 'Lazarus' Fisher)->Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth): Really? Cuz I have absolutely no problem with any you guys. What just went down genuinely needs to be clarified. Because I don't think I'm the only person wondering how that meta play was okay.
  84. [18:14:04]ADMIN: PM: Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth)->ColonelCorazon/(Wanda 'Lazarus' Fisher): A Staff Report doesn't require someone to actually get in trouble. It can lead to a policy change if it was decided what they did was correct policy, but that the policy is bad, which is what I believe your concern is?
  85. [18:16:28]ADMIN: PM: Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth)->ColonelCorazon/(Wanda 'Lazarus' Fisher): Like, in the Staff Report, there is a section for what you think should be done about it, and you can just write that you'd like the policy to be evaluated and reconsidered, but you don't think anything specifically wrong was done.
  86. [18:16:54]ADMIN: PM: ColonelCorazon/(Wanda 'Lazarus' Fisher)->Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth): Okay. If that's what I gotta do I'll do it. Thank you for your help reaper
  87. [18:17:35]ADMIN: HELP: (Bloody Larva (929): I dont mean to be rude but is anything going to be done abput the queen breaking the rules. Especially since the hive has done it twice now. - heard by 10 non-AFK admins.
  88. [18:17:42]ADMIN: Grimreaperx15 has used 'Mark' on the Adminhelp from (Bloody Larva (929).
  89. [18:17:50]ADMIN: PM: Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth)->ColonelCorazon/(Wanda 'Lazarus' Fisher): Yeah, it'd be the appropriate way to handle it. That way everyone can look into it, and weigh in and it'll let all the Head Staff decide on what to do.
  90. [18:18:27]ADMIN: PM: Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth)->(Bloody Larva (929): It has been ruled an IC issue. If you disagree with it being an IC issue, you can file a Staff Report, although I believe another player is already doing so.
  91. [18:18:35]ADMIN: PM: ColonelCorazon/(Wanda 'Lazarus' Fisher)->Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth): lol it just sounds funny writing a staff report for this, no biggie though :)
  92. [18:18:39]ADMIN: MOD: Emerald Blood/(U.M.T.C. 71a) : Grim
  93. [18:18:46]ADMIN: MOD: Emerald Blood/(U.M.T.C. 71a) : That's not a staff report, it's a player report
  94. [18:18:46]ADMIN: MOD: Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth) : Yes?
  95. [18:18:50]ADMIN: MOD: Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth) : Oh, sorry.
  96. [18:19:00]ADMIN: PM: (Bloody Larva (929)->Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth): ok then. Thanks for the heads up
  97. [18:19:00]ADMIN: PM: Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth)->ColonelCorazon/(Wanda 'Lazarus' Fisher): Correction, PLAYER report, not Staff.
  98. [18:19:11]ADMIN: PM: Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth)->(Bloody Larva (929): Correction, PLAYER report, not Staff.
  99. [18:19:23]ADMIN: PM: ColonelCorazon/(Wanda 'Lazarus' Fisher)->Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth): oh! that makes more sense!
  100. [18:20:10]ADMIN: PM: Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth)->ColonelCorazon/(Wanda 'Lazarus' Fisher): Yeah, I'm sorry, I got confused there for a moment. You'll wanna file a Player Report about the behavior of the hive in general, and then it'll be evaluated and all.
  101. [18:20:45]ADMIN: PM: ColonelCorazon/(Wanda 'Lazarus' Fisher)->Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth): will do! I'll post that in a little while then
  102. [18:21:37]ADMIN: PM: Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth)->ColonelCorazon/(Wanda 'Lazarus' Fisher): Thank you, that way it'll allow Head Staff to determine if the current policy needs revision or not, and allow a proper discussion and all that.
  103. [18:21:51]ADMIN: PM: ColonelCorazon/(Wanda 'Lazarus' Fisher)->Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth): yup!
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