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  1. famous sysop of N-M
  2.  
  3. Log from convo with Andrew (coder at btn)
  4.  
  5. [12/02/2010 02:09:57] Andrew: yeah, i mean to be perfectly honest with you i think there are plenty of music trackers already haha, but, i guess there's always room for one more, and if done right it could be the best
  6. [12/02/2010 02:10:20] Geddy Lee: see my tracker
  7. [12/02/2010 02:10:26] Geddy Lee: 6 weeks
  8. [12/02/2010 02:10:35] Geddy Lee: more than 850 Cds
  9. [12/02/2010 02:10:45] Geddy Lee: all are in HIGH quality
  10. [12/02/2010 02:10:52] Andrew: yeah, pretty impressive
  11. [12/02/2010 02:10:57] Geddy Lee: CD-retails only ,EAC 100% log , etc
  12. [12/02/2010 02:11:04] Geddy Lee: i know this , andrew
  13. [12/02/2010 02:11:07] Geddy Lee: im a good manager
  14. [12/02/2010 02:11:09] Geddy Lee: just
  15. [12/02/2010 02:11:29] Geddy Lee: this is NM , but we can make another GREAT TRACKER
  16. [12/02/2010 02:12:33] Andrew: sounds like a good plan, just, don't know if i'll be able to put in the amount of work it would require if it was me alone coding it
  17. [12/02/2010 02:12:54] Geddy Lee: just for tell you , NM i have 1670 $ on donations
  18. [12/02/2010 02:13:05] Geddy Lee: just with this users and 6 weeks
  19. [12/02/2010 02:13:08] Geddy Lee:
  20. [12/02/2010 02:13:33] Geddy Lee: this works, in two ways
  21. [12/02/2010 02:13:51] Geddy Lee: tracker , and , other ways to make money , with seedboxes , hosting, etc
  22. [12/02/2010 02:13:54] Geddy Lee: is a great way to make money
  23. [12/02/2010 02:14:33] Andrew: yeah, except, how many of the people who donated now feel pissed off because the tracker they donated to has fallen apart Andrewit? =(
  24. Another juicy part:
  25. [12/02/2010 02:24:26] Geddy Lee: dont worry about the donations , i ll offer to you 50 %
  26.  
  27.  
  28. Part of three-way chat between Geddy, Andrew and SkapperMX:
  29.  
  30. [12/02/2010 02:33:49] Geddy Lee: bueno , Como tu sabras hace un par de años , Oink murio
  31. [12/02/2010 02:33:56] Geddy Lee: pero el tracker y el nombre sigue vivo
  32. [12/02/2010 02:34:29] SkapperMX: aja
  33. [12/02/2010 02:34:31] Geddy Lee: entonces aprovechando esa reputacion , tengo la idea de crear un tracker de musica mucho mas amplio en todo sentido , ( formats , estilos , usuarios ) etc
  34. [12/02/2010 02:34:35] Geddy Lee: con ese nombre
  35. [12/02/2010 02:35:08] Geddy Lee: y bueno le comente a andrew sobre el proyecto , el me dice que esta totalmente interesado ya que vio que con NM yo lo maneje muy bien
  36. [12/02/2010 02:35:21] Geddy Lee: ademas el nombre oink esta listo para levantarse
  37.  
  38. Google translates it to:
  39.  
  40. [12/02/2010 02:33:49] Geddy Lee: Well, as you will know a couple of years ago, died Oink
  41. [12/02/2010 02:33:56] Geddy Lee, but the tracker and the name is alive
  42. [12/02/2010 02:34:29] SkapperMX: aja
  43. [12/02/2010 02:34:31] Geddy Lee, then exploiting that reputation, I have the idea of creating a music tracker much wider in every way, (formats, styles, users) etc
  44. [12/02/2010 02:34:35] Geddy Lee with that name
  45. [12/02/2010 02:35:08] Geddy Lee and good you tell andrew about the project, tells me that is totally concerned because he saw that NM I manage well
  46. [12/02/2010 02:35:21] Geddy Lee: besides the name oink is ready to rise"
  47.  
  48.  
  49. He banned hypnotoad from N-M after one fight. Afterwards someone created these topics:
  50. http://www.btracs.com/forums/topics.aspx?ID=3110
  51. http://www.btracs.com/forums/topics.aspx?ID=3109
  52.  
  53. IP (acquired by someone who got his IP on btracs) of that "hypnotoad" resolves to the same IP range GeddyLee was using.
  54. Edit: He was using that IP on another tracker
  55.  
  56. IPs:
  57. 190.234.131.136
  58. 190.234.23.69
  59. 190.43.95.28
  60. 190.234.23.69
  61. 190.233.220.169
  62. 190.233.217.83
  63. 190.232.72.150
  64. 190.234.133.245
  65. 201.240.14.56
  66. 190.233.20.245
  67. 190.232.72.218
  68. 201.240.87.230
  69. 190.234.19.63
  70.  
  71. Mail: [email protected]
  72. The logs:
  73. https://pastee.org/uxykc
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  78.  
  79. [09/02/2010 17:58:54] geddylee_del_peru: im Geddy
  80. [09/02/2010 17:59:04] Andrew Beveridge: Andrew Beveridge has shared contact details with Geddy Lee.
  81. [09/02/2010 18:20:01] *** Call from Geddy Lee, duration 20:38. ***
  82. [09/02/2010 18:22:07] Andrew Beveridge: http://**************.com/2010/02/08...g-tv-trackers/
  83. [09/02/2010 18:33:57] Andrew Beveridge: http://tbdev.andrewbeveridge.co.uk/TBDEV/
  84. [09/02/2010 18:36:35] Andrew Beveridge: http://andrewbeveridge.co.uk/CV.pdf
  85. [09/02/2010 18:37:17] Geddy Lee: photo
  86. [09/02/2010 18:37:45] Andrew Beveridge: http://adb.dontexist.com/withhair.jpg
  87. [09/02/2010 18:40:40] *** Call ended ***
  88. [10/02/2010 05:29:25] Geddy Lee: [email protected]
  89. [10/02/2010 05:29:36] Geddy Lee: please my friend can you send one invite to one great friend
  90. [10/02/2010 17:05:41] *** Andrew Beveridge blocked Geddy Lee ***
  91. [11/02/2010 01:43:47] Andrew Beveridge: hello again, sorry about that, was a bit more than ten minutes
  92. [11/02/2010 01:44:45] Geddy Lee: no problem
  93. [11/02/2010 01:44:47] Geddy Lee:
  94. Geddy Lee
  95. [11/02/2010 01:45:39] Andrew Beveridge: cool
  96. [11/02/2010 01:45:47] Andrew Beveridge: currently eatign a big plate of macaroni
  97. [11/02/2010 01:46:06] Andrew Beveridge: i'll take a look at that file and edit it to check logs, if it's the right file
  98. [11/02/2010 01:46:07] Geddy Lee: mmmmmmmmmmmm
  99. [11/02/2010 01:46:12] Geddy Lee: omg !!
  100. [11/02/2010 01:46:18] Geddy Lee: (pi)
  101. [11/02/2010 01:46:30] Geddy Lee: great
  102. [11/02/2010 01:46:33] Geddy Lee: thanks so much
  103. [11/02/2010 01:53:42] Andrew Beveridge: hmmm, no, the form submission obviously isn't taken by that file =/
  104. [11/02/2010 01:53:49] Andrew Beveridge: it's takeupload.php
  105. Geddy Lee
  106. [11/02/2010 02:15:44] Andrew Beveridge: okies i've done the basics, but is there any chance you could send me a log or two which shouldn't be allowed?
  107. [11/02/2010 02:15:58] Andrew Beveridge: i have no CDs on hand to test with and all my logs are "perfect"
  108. [11/02/2010 02:16:10] Geddy Lee: yes
  109. [11/02/2010 02:16:12] Geddy Lee: i can send you
  110. [11/02/2010 02:16:16] Geddy Lee: right now
  111. [11/02/2010 02:16:17] Geddy Lee:
  112. [11/02/2010 02:16:19] Geddy Lee: one sec
  113. [11/02/2010 02:16:30] Andrew Beveridge: cool
  114. [11/02/2010 02:18:44] Andrew Beveridge: also, i may have to work on it tomorrow instead, it's getting a bit late, i had planned to do this much earlier in the day =/
  115. Geddy Lee
  116. [11/02/2010 02:18:53] Andrew Beveridge: ok great ^^
  117. [11/02/2010 02:23:13] Andrew Beveridge: okies, so anything which doesn't say "No errors occurred" or has the string "Cannot be verified as accurate" should be rejected
  118. [11/02/2010 02:23:25] Geddy Lee: yes
  119. [11/02/2010 02:23:48] Andrew Beveridge: also, has to have exactly "Read mode : Secure
  120. Utilize accurate stream : Yes
  121. Defeat audio cache : Yes
  122. Make use of C2 pointers : No"
  123. [11/02/2010 02:24:17] Geddy Lee: ok
  124. [11/02/2010 02:24:20] Geddy Lee:
  125. [11/02/2010 02:24:27] Geddy Lee: you can check here my friend
  126. [11/02/2010 02:24:45] Geddy Lee: http://eachelper.okamihost.com/php/Analyzehtml.php
  127. [11/02/2010 02:24:55] Geddy Lee: copy and paste the log there
  128. [11/02/2010 02:24:59] Geddy Lee: and press analyze
  129. [11/02/2010 02:25:07] Geddy Lee:
  130. [11/02/2010 02:25:28] Andrew Beveridge: oh sweet, that is doing exactly what i need, great
  131. [11/02/2010 02:25:58] Geddy Lee:
  132. [11/02/2010 02:26:33] Andrew Beveridge: hmm
  133. [11/02/2010 02:26:40] Andrew Beveridge: that page says the one you sent me is 100%
  134. [11/02/2010 02:27:01] Andrew Beveridge: but it fails the accuraterip check since every track has a different accuraterip CRC
  135. [11/02/2010 02:27:12] Geddy Lee: yes
  136. [11/02/2010 02:27:38] Andrew Beveridge: so, do you regard that as an acceptable rip or not?
  137. [11/02/2010 02:28:04] Andrew Beveridge: i mean, no errors occurred in the T+C etc, it's just got a different copy in the accuraterip database
  138. [11/02/2010 02:29:03] Geddy Lee: well that link is great
  139. [11/02/2010 02:29:42] Andrew Beveridge: ok, so you trust that link. so the one you sent me is a 100% rip log got any logs which have errors?
  140. [11/02/2010 02:30:17] Geddy Lee: yes i think
  141. [11/02/2010 02:30:19] Geddy Lee:
  142. [11/02/2010 02:31:40] Andrew Beveridge: okies, well if you could send me one or two which should be rejected by the upload form (that is, they aren't 100% rips), i'll work on this in the morning, i've gotta get to sleep right now, sorry. usually i'd be up all night but it's 2:30am and i have to be up at 9 =/
  143. [11/02/2010 02:32:04] Geddy Lee: ok my friend
  144. [11/02/2010 02:32:14] Geddy Lee: sweet dreams , thanks so much for your help
  145. [11/02/2010 02:32:16] Geddy Lee:
  146. [11/02/2010 02:32:24] Andrew Beveridge: no problem, always happy to help
  147. [11/02/2010 02:32:28] Geddy Lee:
  148. [11/02/2010 02:32:36] Andrew Beveridge: i'll leave skype on away if there's anything else you want to add
  149. [11/02/2010 02:32:39] Andrew Beveridge: noght
  150. [11/02/2010 02:32:42] Andrew Beveridge: *night
  151. [11/02/2010 02:32:51] Geddy Lee: gn
  152. [11/02/2010 02:32:53] Geddy Lee:
  153. [11/02/2010 23:05:18] Andrew Beveridge: hey
  154. [11/02/2010 23:05:21] Andrew Beveridge: you around?
  155. [11/02/2010 23:34:36] Geddy Lee: yes im here ofr a little
  156. [11/02/2010 23:34:39] Geddy Lee:
  157. [11/02/2010 23:37:54] Andrew Beveridge: okies, i implemented a few basic checks, here's the file:
  158. Andrew Beveridge
  159. [11/02/2010 23:38:27] Andrew Beveridge: i'm not sure if N-M is still going to exist, but it wasn't much work anyways so it's no big deal if it isn't used
  160. [11/02/2010 23:38:37] Andrew Beveridge: what's the deal with all the staff dropping like flies?
  161. [11/02/2010 23:45:00] Geddy Lee: thanks so much
  162. [11/02/2010 23:46:40] Geddy Lee: yes we ll continue
  163. [11/02/2010 23:50:37] Andrew Beveridge: okies what was the problem? just personality clashes, or what?
  164. [11/02/2010 23:51:08] Geddy Lee: well , we need more uploaders and i need more time
  165. [11/02/2010 23:51:17] Geddy Lee: i have a lot of things to do in my real life
  166. [11/02/2010 23:51:19] Geddy Lee:
  167. [11/02/2010 23:51:44] Andrew Beveridge: ah okies
  168. [11/02/2010 23:52:20] Andrew Beveridge: well if i can help, i will
  169. [11/02/2010 23:52:26] Geddy Lee: thanks so much
  170. [11/02/2010 23:52:30] Geddy Lee: i have some problem
  171. [11/02/2010 23:52:37] Geddy Lee: i test the takeupload ..
  172. [11/02/2010 23:52:48] Geddy Lee: when i upload some , i have this message
  173. [11/02/2010 23:53:03] Geddy Lee: Error
  174. Log perfect! yay!
  175. [11/02/2010 23:53:09] Andrew Beveridge: it is untested since i haven't got the same tbdev source as you to test on ^_^
  176. [11/02/2010 23:53:10] Andrew Beveridge: oh
  177. [11/02/2010 23:53:11] Andrew Beveridge: oops
  178. [11/02/2010 23:53:12] Andrew Beveridge: haha
  179. [11/02/2010 23:53:13] Andrew Beveridge: my bad
  180. [11/02/2010 23:53:26] Geddy Lee: no problem
  181. [11/02/2010 23:53:34] Geddy Lee: i need the new one
  182. [11/02/2010 23:53:35] Geddy Lee:
  183. Andrew Beveridge
  184. [11/02/2010 23:53:38] Andrew Beveridge: fixed
  185. [11/02/2010 23:55:11] Geddy Lee: ok ,test now
  186. [11/02/2010 23:55:26] Geddy Lee: hey andrew you have acces to data base on BTN
  187. [11/02/2010 23:55:33] Andrew Beveridge: yeah
  188. [11/02/2010 23:55:42] Geddy Lee: great
  189. [11/02/2010 23:55:54] Geddy Lee: if i continue here on NM , you can be my ofiicial coder ?
  190. [11/02/2010 23:56:02] Andrew Beveridge: well see
  191. [11/02/2010 23:56:05] Andrew Beveridge: i'd like to be
  192. [11/02/2010 23:56:16] Andrew Beveridge: but a) i don't have much time =/ (real life work)
  193. [11/02/2010 23:56:42] Andrew Beveridge: and b) if i was, i'd probably have to keep it a secret - it seems a lot of other tracker staff don't like you =(
  194. [11/02/2010 23:57:22] Geddy Lee: why ?
  195. [11/02/2010 23:58:34] Andrew Beveridge: not really sure, i've just heard quite a bit of negative comments about you. I don't want to get into inter-tracker politics/social relations, and i've not seen any bad side to you, so i'd be happy to help you out and code for you in spare time, but i'd use a different nick and keep it quiet
  196. [11/02/2010 23:59:06] Geddy Lee: i can change my username thats easy and we can change the theme and change all
  197. [11/02/2010 23:59:23] Geddy Lee: migrated to the new tdvet version , etc
  198. [11/02/2010 23:59:43] Andrew Beveridge: hmmm, sure, it would be interesting to work on
  199. [12/02/2010 00:00:12] Geddy Lee: great
  200. [12/02/2010 0007] Geddy Lee: what staff talk bad about me ?
  201. [12/02/2010 0023] Andrew Beveridge: i don't really want to name names tbh, i'd rather stay out of it
  202. [12/02/2010 0037] Geddy Lee: ok ok
  203. [12/02/2010 00:02:09] Andrew Beveridge: suffice to say i assume some of the staff who have left N-M in the last week haven't been too happy =o
  204. [12/02/2010 00:02:21] Geddy Lee: yeah
  205. [12/02/2010 00:02:27] Geddy Lee: well , thats a problem ,
  206. [12/02/2010 00:02:48] Geddy Lee: ok we can start again
  207. [12/02/2010 00:02:51] Geddy Lee: what you said
  208. [12/02/2010 00:02:53] Geddy Lee: ?
  209. [12/02/2010 00:02:54] Geddy Lee: xD
  210. [12/02/2010 00:03:08] Andrew Beveridge: huh?
  211. [12/02/2010 00:03:14] Andrew Beveridge: Andrew Beveridge no understand
  212. [12/02/2010 00:03:18] Geddy Lee: i mean
  213. [12/02/2010 00:03:34] Geddy Lee: start to repair NM and continue with the tracker
  214. [12/02/2010 00:03:35] Geddy Lee:
  215. [12/02/2010 00:04:01] Geddy Lee: continue with NM
  216. [12/02/2010 00:06:07] Geddy Lee: ?
  217. [12/02/2010 00:06:15] Geddy Lee: (sun)
  218. [12/02/2010 00:06:33] Andrew Beveridge: sure, i mean it's functional right now, so we could work on the TBDEV09 codebase and try and get it to a similar-but-updated stage
  219. [12/02/2010 00:07:00] Andrew Beveridge: trouble is that's probably gonna be quite a lot of work and I don't have much time to spare =/
  220. [12/02/2010 00:08:05] Geddy Lee: omg
  221. [12/02/2010 00:08:32] Andrew Beveridge: what's up?
  222. [12/02/2010 00:09:08] Geddy Lee: no no
  223. [12/02/2010 00:09:16] Geddy Lee: just see you dont have time
  224. [12/02/2010 00:15:00] Geddy Lee: andreq
  225. [12/02/2010 00:15:04] Geddy Lee: andrew
  226. [12/02/2010 00:15:05] Andrew Beveridge: yep?
  227. [12/02/2010 00:15:11] Geddy Lee: i ll back in some minutes my friend
  228. [12/02/2010 00:15:15] Geddy Lee: need buy some to eat
  229. [12/02/2010 00:15:17] Geddy Lee:
  230. [12/02/2010 00:15:21] Andrew Beveridge: okies
  231. [12/02/2010 01:59:36] Geddy Lee: im back
  232. [12/02/2010 01:59:37] Geddy Lee:
  233. [12/02/2010 01:59:53] Andrew Beveridge: cool
  234. [12/02/2010 01:59:59] Andrew Beveridge: what happened to the torrents on NM? :S
  235. [12/02/2010 02:00:19] Geddy Lee: one idiot deleted all , but dont worry i have all torrents back up
  236. [12/02/2010 02:00:36] Andrew Beveridge: ah, wow. malicious ex-staff?
  237. [12/02/2010 02:00:39] Geddy Lee: yesterday i back up all
  238. [12/02/2010 02:00:42] Geddy Lee: yes
  239. [12/02/2010 02:00:45] Geddy Lee: one idiot
  240. [12/02/2010 02:00:46] Andrew Beveridge: =(
  241. [12/02/2010 02:00:46] Geddy Lee: more
  242. [12/02/2010 02:00:49] Andrew Beveridge: but yeah, good
  243. [12/02/2010 02:00:56] Geddy Lee: andrew
  244. [12/02/2010 02:00:58] Andrew Beveridge: yup
  245. [12/02/2010 0212] Geddy Lee: is posible make a new NM with BTN style ?
  246. [12/02/2010 0230] Andrew Beveridge: well, not sure what you mean by style
  247. [12/02/2010 0235] Andrew Beveridge: i mean, it runs gazelle
  248. [12/02/2010 0245] Andrew Beveridge: which obviously is totally different to TBDev in every way
  249. [12/02/2010 0251] Geddy Lee: gazelle is better than tddev
  250. [12/02/2010 0258] Andrew Beveridge: in my opinion, yeah
  251. [12/02/2010 02:02:07] Andrew Beveridge: but there are mixed opinions throughout the tracker world
  252. [12/02/2010 02:02:39] Geddy Lee: for music ?
  253. [12/02/2010 02:03:13] Andrew Beveridge: well, it was created by what.cd
  254. [12/02/2010 02:03:24] Andrew Beveridge: so obviously it is primarily suited to music
  255. [12/02/2010 02:03:29] Geddy Lee: great
  256. [12/02/2010 02:03:30] Andrew Beveridge: but it's been adapted for everything
  257. [12/02/2010 02:03:39] Geddy Lee: great
  258. [12/02/2010 02:03:41] Geddy Lee: great
  259. [12/02/2010 02:03:47] Geddy Lee: can we change NM to gazelle
  260. [12/02/2010 02:03:50] Geddy Lee: i love BTN
  261. [12/02/2010 02:04:26] Andrew Beveridge: yeah, i mean it will never be as simple as "changing" just like that, the whole thing will need to be re-done, but it's certainly possible
  262. [12/02/2010 02:04:39] Geddy Lee: greattttttttt
  263. [12/02/2010 02:04:47] Geddy Lee: you are the man !!
  264. [12/02/2010 02:05:32] Geddy Lee: i can offer some part of the donations for you i know is a lot of hard work
  265. [12/02/2010 02:07:27] Andrew Beveridge: to be honest, while that would be awesome, i have clients already in real life i need to prioritise =/ once i'm done with work tomorrow i'll take a look into starting a new gazelle music tracker, which is essentially what we'll be doing, there won't be any way to port the current NM userbase/torrents to the new gazelle tracker
  266. [12/02/2010 02:08:29] Geddy Lee: no more NEED music
  267. [12/02/2010 02:08:30] Geddy Lee: we can created
  268. [12/02/2010 02:08:34] Geddy Lee: Oink
  269. [12/02/2010 02:08:38] Geddy Lee:
  270. [12/02/2010 02:08:51] Andrew Beveridge: haha full of ambition aren't you
  271. [12/02/2010 02:09:03] Geddy Lee: yeah but is a great
  272. [12/02/2010 02:09:07] Geddy Lee: and good idea
  273. [12/02/2010 02:09:09] Geddy Lee: what you think ?
  274. [12/02/2010 02:09:57] Andrew Beveridge: yeah, i mean to be perfectly honest with you i think there are plenty of music trackers already haha, but, i guess there's always room for one more, and if done right it could be the best
  275. [12/02/2010 02:10:20] Geddy Lee: see my tracker
  276. [12/02/2010 02:10:26] Geddy Lee: 6 weeks
  277. [12/02/2010 02:10:35] Geddy Lee: more than 850 Cds
  278. [12/02/2010 02:10:45] Geddy Lee: all are in HIGH quality
  279. [12/02/2010 02:10:52] Andrew Beveridge: yeah, pretty impressive
  280. [12/02/2010 02:10:57] Geddy Lee: CD-retails only ,EAC 100% log , etc
  281. [12/02/2010 02:11:04] Geddy Lee: i know this , andrew
  282. [12/02/2010 02:11:07] Geddy Lee: im a good manager
  283. [12/02/2010 02:11:09] Geddy Lee: just
  284. [12/02/2010 02:11:29] Geddy Lee: this is NM , but we can make another GREAT TRACKER
  285. [12/02/2010 02:12:33] Andrew Beveridge: sounds like a good plan, just, don't know if i'll be able to put in the amount of work it would require if it was me alone coding it
  286. [12/02/2010 02:12:54] Geddy Lee: just for tell you , NM i have 1670 $ on donations
  287. [12/02/2010 02:13:05] Geddy Lee: just with this users and 6 weeks
  288. [12/02/2010 02:13:08] Geddy Lee:
  289. [12/02/2010 02:13:33] Geddy Lee: this works, in two ways
  290. [12/02/2010 02:13:51] Geddy Lee: tracker , and , other ways to make money , with seedboxes , hosting, etc
  291. [12/02/2010 02:13:54] Geddy Lee: is a great
  292. [12/02/2010 02:14:33] Andrew Beveridge: yeah, except, how many of the people who donated now feel pissed off because the tracker they donated to has fallen apart a bit? =(
  293. [12/02/2010 02:15:38] Andrew Beveridge: i mean, i'd probably be able to find the time if some of that money was coming my way, but i'd never want to do it if the users who donated regretted donating
  294. [12/02/2010 02:15:59] Geddy Lee: no
  295. [12/02/2010 02:16:03] Geddy Lee: thats not happen
  296. [12/02/2010 02:16:11] Geddy Lee: because the user donated in this new tracker
  297. [12/02/2010 02:16:16] Geddy Lee: donated for one reason
  298. [12/02/2010 02:16:24] Geddy Lee: like waht cd , 5 eruos for invites
  299. [12/02/2010 02:16:29] Geddy Lee: or for TRaffic
  300. [12/02/2010 02:16:31] Geddy Lee: etc
  301. [12/02/2010 02:16:37] Geddy Lee: no more donations free like NM
  302. [12/02/2010 02:17:00] Andrew Beveridge: right, ok, so they would feel like they were getting something?
  303. [12/02/2010 02:18:12] Andrew Beveridge: either way, we'll see - i am definitely interested, and money or no money i'm happy to help code a new gazelle tracker. but, i do have a lot going on in my life besides work too, so again, i'm never gonna have a huge amount of time to devote to working on it
  304. [12/02/2010 02:18:49] Geddy Lee: ok andrew we can go step by step , we dont need run
  305. [12/02/2010 02:18:58] Geddy Lee: but de idea is make a great new music tracker
  306. [12/02/2010 02:19:03] Geddy Lee: like Oink
  307. [12/02/2010 02:19:37] Geddy Lee: i have one friend is coder now on NM , skrapperMX he can help you with the coding .. if you like ?
  308. [12/02/2010 02:19:45] Andrew Beveridge: yeah, it could be awesome - certainly, to compete with the big two is quite a challenge but definitely possible
  309. [12/02/2010 02:20:01] Andrew Beveridge: sure, i mean, does he have any gazelle experience?
  310. [12/02/2010 02:20:09] Geddy Lee: really i dont know
  311. [12/02/2010 02:20:14] Geddy Lee: i can add he to this conversation
  312. [12/02/2010 02:20:17] Geddy Lee: hes online now
  313. [12/02/2010 02:20:47] Andrew Beveridge: okies, that suits me fine, i mean, there isn't much point in him trying to help if he's never coded with gazelle before
  314. [12/02/2010 02:21:10] Geddy Lee: ok so you can do all
  315. [12/02/2010 02:21:19] Geddy Lee: or need his help ?
  316. [12/02/2010 02:21:48] Andrew Beveridge: i don't think i'd know until i've at least checked out the recent gazelle trunk and set it up on a server to be honest =/
  317. [12/02/2010 02:22:03] Andrew Beveridge: i'm pretty sure i can tackle any problem though
  318. [12/02/2010 02:23:02] Geddy Lee: ok skrapperMX He studied computer engineering now
  319. [12/02/2010 02:23:08] Geddy Lee: but i dont know he have experince
  320. [12/02/2010 02:23:14] Geddy Lee: on coding gazelle
  321. [12/02/2010 02:23:49] Andrew Beveridge: ok cool. well, i'd say any help is welcome, just, if he isn't familiar with the gazelle codebase he might not be able to do much
  322. [12/02/2010 02:24:12] Geddy Lee: ok andrew he help total free ,
  323. [12/02/2010 02:24:26] Geddy Lee: dont worry about the donations , i ll offer to you 50 %
  324. [12/02/2010 02:24:59] Geddy Lee: i know you are happy to work without money , but i think , a great work need a good pay , i think in this way
  325. [12/02/2010 02:26:46] Andrew Beveridge: wow, ok. well, any money wold be very much appreicated, 50% sounds great - if we can get it to a launch stage where we have a usable awesome music tracker, i'm sure that could be a nice amount of money to help pay my rent. over the next week i'll grab the latest gazelle code and have a look into what's required to set up a new tracker
  326. [12/02/2010 02:27:10] Geddy Lee: great
  327. [12/02/2010 02:27:15] Geddy Lee: but skrapper can help
  328. [12/02/2010 02:27:17] Geddy Lee: free
  329. [12/02/2010 02:27:21] Geddy Lee: hes a good guy
  330. [12/02/2010 02:27:29] Geddy Lee: can we talk with him here ?
  331. [12/02/2010 02:27:40] Andrew Beveridge: sure
  332. [12/02/2010 02:27:43] Geddy Lee: great
  333. [12/02/2010 02:28:05] Geddy Lee: hes from Mexico
  334. [12/02/2010 02:28:12] Andrew Beveridge: okies
  335. [12/02/2010 02:28:13] Geddy Lee: can cun
  336. [12/02/2010 02:29:54] Geddy Lee: one sec
  337. [12/02/2010 02:30:00] Andrew Beveridge: no problem
  338. [12/02/2010 02:30:27] *** Geddy Lee created a group conversation with SkapperMX.
  339. Show group conversation ***
  340. [12/02/2010 02:30:27] *** Geddy Lee added SkapperMX ***
  341. [12/02/2010 02:31:00] Geddy Lee: andrew?
  342. [12/02/2010 02:31:07] Geddy Lee: skrapper ?
  343. [12/02/2010 02:31:08] Andrew Beveridge: hey
  344. [12/02/2010 02:31:18] Geddy Lee: kike ?
  345. [12/02/2010 02:31:25] SkapperMX: Hola
  346. [12/02/2010 02:31:29] Geddy Lee: ok
  347. [12/02/2010 02:31:41] Geddy Lee: Andrew , hes Skprapper his name is Kike
  348. [12/02/2010 02:31:53] Andrew Beveridge: Andrew Beveridge waves as kike
  349. [12/02/2010 02:31:54] Andrew Beveridge: *at
  350. [12/02/2010 02:31:55] Geddy Lee: my friend and the oficial coder on NM
  351. [12/02/2010 02:32:12] SkapperMX: Hi andrew
  352. [12/02/2010 02:32:42] Geddy Lee: andrew i ll explain our plan in spanish to kike , its easy for us
  353. [12/02/2010 02:32:48] Andrew Beveridge: so, have you ever worked with gazelle before skrapper?
  354. [12/02/2010 02:32:53] Andrew Beveridge: ah ok that's fine by me
  355. [12/02/2010 02:32:56] Geddy Lee: thanks
  356. [12/02/2010 02:32:59] Geddy Lee: Kike
  357. [12/02/2010 02:33:16] Geddy Lee: Estaba conversando con andrew , el es coder en BTN un excelente nuevo tracker que salio no hace mucho
  358. [12/02/2010 02:33:22] Geddy Lee: pero el tema es que esta en gazelle
  359. [12/02/2010 02:33:39] Geddy Lee: y no en el que tenemos en NM tdev
  360. [12/02/2010 02:33:49] Geddy Lee: bueno , Como tu sabras hace un par de a�os , Oink murio
  361. [12/02/2010 02:33:56] Geddy Lee: pero el tracker y el nombre sigue vivo
  362. [12/02/2010 02:34:29] SkapperMX: aja
  363. [12/02/2010 02:34:31] Geddy Lee: entonces aprovechando esa reputacion , tengo la idea de crear un tracker de musica mucho mas amplio en todo sentido , ( formats , estilos , usuarios ) etc
  364. [12/02/2010 02:34:35] Geddy Lee: con ese nombre
  365. [12/02/2010 02:35:08] Geddy Lee: y bueno le comente a andrew sobre el proyecto , el me dice que esta totalmente interesado ya que vio que con NM yo lo maneje muy bien
  366. [12/02/2010 02:35:21] Geddy Lee: ademas el nombre oink esta listo para levantarse
  367. [12/02/2010 02:35:39] Geddy Lee: entonces andre es coder totalmente y puede hacerlo todo , pero nesesitara ayuda
  368. [12/02/2010 02:35:44] Geddy Lee: tu estas de acuerdo ?
  369. [12/02/2010 02:35:49] Geddy Lee: osea
  370. [12/02/2010 02:35:57] Geddy Lee: los 2 seran los coders oficiales
  371. [12/02/2010 02:36:18] Geddy Lee: pero el de mas experiencia es el creo , o no se ya vemos como hacemos total al final los dos seran
  372. [12/02/2010 02:36:51] SkapperMX: hahah ok ok estoy de acuerdo
  373. [12/02/2010 02:36:56] Geddy Lee: great
  374. [12/02/2010 02:37:15] Geddy Lee: well , adrew , kike says he can help you
  375. [12/02/2010 02:37:20] Geddy Lee: *andrew
  376. [12/02/2010 02:37:23] Andrew Beveridge: ok
  377. [12/02/2010 02:37:29] Andrew Beveridge: uh, where do we start
  378. [12/02/2010 02:37:43] Geddy Lee: thats a real good question , tomorrow ?
  379. [12/02/2010 02:37:47] SkapperMX: Espera un momento ..se llamara oink el tracker????
  380. [12/02/2010 02:37:53] Geddy Lee: se llmara
  381. [12/02/2010 02:37:57] Geddy Lee: llamara
  382. [12/02/2010 02:38:08] Geddy Lee: yes the names ll be Oink
  383. [12/02/2010 02:38:25] Andrew Beveridge: you want to use the exact same name?
  384. [12/02/2010 02:38:40] Geddy Lee: thats the idea , but please i open to new ideas
  385. [12/02/2010 02:39:28] Andrew Beveridge: i dunno, i guess i just think people will be negative about it if we use the same name, since oink was so great people will think we are trying to steal their glory, you know?
  386. [12/02/2010 02:39:45] Geddy Lee: mmm
  387. [12/02/2010 02:39:50] Geddy Lee: thats a good point
  388. [12/02/2010 02:40:06] Geddy Lee: but with oink in our name i think is easy UP very fast
  389. [12/02/2010 02:40:24] Andrew Beveridge: true, what, get many members fast, is that what you mean?
  390. [12/02/2010 02:40:31] Geddy Lee: yes
  391. [12/02/2010 02:40:41] Geddy Lee: and uploaders , torrents , etc
  392. [12/02/2010 02:40:46] Andrew Beveridge: sure, i guess. agred.
  393. [12/02/2010 02:40:48] Andrew Beveridge: *agreed
  394. [12/02/2010 02:40:52] Geddy Lee: yes
  395. [12/02/2010 02:41:17] Andrew Beveridge: i think i'll want to keep this off my record with other trackers though - i'll use a different nick and keep myself private ^_^
  396. [12/02/2010 02:42:31] Andrew Beveridge: either way, i think me and kike can probably try and work together on setting up gazelle tomorrow, i don't know if he is free, or speaks enough english to work easily with me though?
  397. [12/02/2010 02:42:52] Geddy Lee: yes hes speak english
  398. [12/02/2010 02:42:53] Geddy Lee:
  399. [12/02/2010 02:43:06] Geddy Lee: right kike you can speak englihs ?
  400. [12/02/2010 02:43:09] Geddy Lee: *english
  401. [12/02/2010 02:44:05] SkapperMX: little
  402. [12/02/2010 02:44:09] Geddy Lee: lol
  403. [12/02/2010 02:44:15] Geddy Lee: tell us the true
  404. [12/02/2010 02:44:26] Geddy Lee: you can understand and speak fluen english
  405. [12/02/2010 02:44:27] Geddy Lee:
  406. [12/02/2010 02:45:01] SkapperMX: very little .. but if I understand what they write
  407. [12/02/2010 02:45:10] Geddy Lee: great
  408. [12/02/2010 02:45:21] Geddy Lee: i think is not a problem ..
  409. [12/02/2010 02:45:27] Geddy Lee: coder is a coding
  410. [12/02/2010 02:45:32] Geddy Lee: what you think andrew ?
  411. [12/02/2010 02:45:55] Andrew Beveridge: sure, uh
  412. [12/02/2010 02:46:11] Andrew Beveridge: i'll see. i'll have a try tomorrow, i'm really tired the now - gotta get to bed
  413. [12/02/2010 02:46:32] Geddy Lee: ok andrew now we have 9:46 PM
  414. [12/02/2010 02:46:41] Andrew Beveridge: ah, 3am here
  415. [12/02/2010 02:46:44] Geddy Lee: omg
  416. [12/02/2010 02:46:47] Andrew Beveridge: (2:46)
  417. [12/02/2010 02:46:50] Geddy Lee: go to bed ,
  418. [12/02/2010 02:46:54] Andrew Beveridge: will do
  419. [12/02/2010 02:46:57] Andrew Beveridge: goodnight guys
  420. [12/02/2010 02:47:03] Andrew Beveridge: hopefully speak tomorrow
  421. [12/02/2010 02:47:10] Geddy Lee: tomorrow we can continue , and start to work
  422. [12/02/2010 02:47:16] Andrew Beveridge: hopefully, aye
  423. [12/02/2010 02:47:19] Andrew Beveridge: night
  424. [12/02/2010 02:47:27] Geddy Lee: great andrew sweet dreams
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