HSG Wizard Adventure Planning Meeting 1

TL:DR Version, for those who don't want to read 1000 lines of text (courtesy EyePencils):
Our concept: A 70s murder mystery courtroom "whodunnit" ala Ace Attorney. With Wizards. A group of Wizards are brought in under the suspicion of killing some dude, because their magic residue was found on him. We start with one character and see his perspective, and then we can switch characters to a different perspective and interrogate them, and see if the testimonies match up. YOU decide who fries!

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23:54 <@EyePencils> Considering for the most part we're basically going to be using HSG (or just /co/) as a posting site, we might want to bear some resemblances to the MSPAs of yore.
23:54 < TYV2000> mk
23:54 < TYV2000> hey xlr
23:54 <@EyePencils> Unless you guys have an idea of somewhere we can host it?
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23:54 < Kyuh> so
23:54 < Kyuh> wizards
23:54 <@EyePencils> Now hold on.
23:54 < TYV2000> or not
23:54 < TYV2000> we dont know yet
23:54 <@EyePencils> We might
23:55 <@EyePencils> we might not make it about wizards.
23:55 < Kyuh> no no listen
23:55 < Kyuh> what if
23:55 <@EyePencils> Unless people REALLY want to do wizards.
23:55 < Kyuh> not FANTASY wizards
23:55 < TYV2000> also it depends on what ideas we get for wizards
23:55 < Kyuh> but STAGE MAGIC
23:55 < TYV2000> level of stage magic as a status?
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23:55 <@EyePencils> Oh you can just go fuck yourselves you horrible piece of shit
23:55 < TYV2000> what
23:55 <@EyePencils> Don't you
23:55 <@EyePencils> bring int
23:55 <@EyePencils> that terrible
23:56 <@EyePencils> fake bullshit
23:56 < Kyuh> what
23:56 <@EyePencils> into WIZARDS.
23:56 < Kyuh> no no wait
23:56 < TYV2000> what
23:56 < Kyuh> STAGE MAGIC
23:56 <@EyePencils> WIZARDS!
23:56 < Kyuh> turns to be real
23:56 <@EyePencils> Okay.
23:56 <@EyePencils> I like
23:56 <@EyePencils> where this is going.
23:56 < TYV2000> ok
23:56 < Kyuh> but nobody must know, because shit man wizards don't real
23:56 < TYV2000> but WHY
23:56 <@EyePencils> OKAY BEFORE WE CONTINUE
23:56 < Kyuh> because it's modern times man
23:56 <@EyePencils> Are we all set on Wizards.
23:56 <@EyePencils> Say aye if you want wizards.
23:56 <@Kaos-Machina> wizards are cool, yo
23:57 < Kyuh> sounds cool to me
23:57 <@EyePencils> or something.
23:57 < xtralargerobutt> ah okay
23:57 <@Kaos-Machina> http://joakimisdemented.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/zapmuthafucka.jpg also, if we go with wizards, this guy has to show up somehow
23:57 < anony> magic depends on human's faith, like that shit comes from the concept of the unknown itself
23:57 < anony> straight up umineko
23:57 <@EyePencils> Magic powered by faith, okay, okay
23:57 <@EyePencils> now what makes the wizards different. Why can they use the magic shit.
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23:58 < Kyuh> man I used to had this idea
23:58 < xtralargerobutt> they're able to suspend their disbelief around themselves?
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23:58 < Kyuh> where this guy who his father was a magician himself left him when he was young
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23:58 < xtralargerobutt> no, wait, they have really really good self esteem
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23:58 <@EyePencils> Okay okay okay
23:58 < onix> im here to contribute
23:58 < Kyuh> so he hated magic, and when he growed up he starting busting stage magicians because well why not
23:58 <@EyePencils> we need to obviously establish
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23:58 <@EyePencils> three important things.
23:59 < Kyuh> ???
23:59 <@EyePencils> How Magic works, How Wizards are regarded, and what the fuck are we doing with this as a story.
23:59 <@EyePencils> Is that all agreed on? Am I forgetting something equally as important?
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00:00 < Kyuh> the setting?
00:00 <@EyePencils> Yeah, the world. The environment.
00:00 <@EyePencils> The backdrop to our adventure.
00:00 <@EyePencils> Is it a gritty noir crime-solving mystery shit with wizards
00:00 < assss> magic, it's all around us, and we harness it
00:00 < anony> I'm not even sure what we're doing here
00:01 <@EyePencils> We're sorting out ideas.
00:01 < Kyuh> we're brainstorming
00:01 <@EyePencils> Fuck yeah.
00:01 < onix> thats ok anony
00:01 < anony> ok
00:01 <@Kaos-Machina> I'd vote for like, comedy/action
00:01 < anony> but like
00:01 < anony> is someone going to draw this
00:01 < onix> this is the brainstorming phase
00:01 <@EyePencils> Hmm.
00:01 <@EyePencils> Shit, we didn't think this
00:01 < onix> i cant draw
00:01 < onix> but i can write
00:01 <@EyePencils> through that far.
00:01 < onix> quite a bit actually
00:01 <@Kaos-Machina> not particularly serious, but not completely rediculous
00:01 <@EyePencils> We're all writers here aren't we.
00:01 < assss> I'm thinking hardboiled crime noir meet neo-clockpunk pseudo cyber-steampunk
00:01 < onix> of course we are
00:01 < TYV2000> nice.
00:01 < onix> writing is easy
00:01 < onix> writing well is the challenge
00:01 <@EyePencils> Ha.
00:01 < Kyuh> eeeeehhhhhh, I guess I could try
00:01 < bort> i think so hsg has a hewll of a lot more writers than drawers
00:01 <@EyePencils> It's not like it would have to be drawn
00:01 < bort> shit is insane
00:02 <@EyePencils> super well.
00:02 < TYV2000> well, considering how early we are with this
00:02 < assss> I could draw
00:02 < TYV2000> we have ample time to find an artist
00:02 < assss> no wait I meant write
00:02 <@EyePencils> We're all writing, at this point.
00:02 < Kyuh> sounds good then
00:02 < bort> yeah that shit comes later lets brainstorm the fuck out of this shit
00:02 < assss> okay good add me to the writing block
00:02 <@EyePencils> God's alive this might actually be hilarious out of nowhere.
00:02 <@EyePencils> Does anyone doodle?
00:02 <@EyePencils> Or are we all bad at drawing?
00:03 < anony> asss: so the protagonist is a hardboiled private neo-pseudo-cyber-steam-clockpunk wizard investigator
00:03 < anony> assss: ^
00:03 < assss> yes
00:03 <@EyePencils> Holy shit that just seems like
00:03 <@EyePencils> way too many adjectives.
00:03 < onix> ^
00:03 <@Kaos-Machina> ^
00:03 < assss> I have a tablet but I can't draw
00:03 <@EyePencils> Let's just kick it down a notch. Comedy/Action/Mystery?
00:03 < onix> lies, anyone who has a tablet can draw
00:03 < assss> I still need to Loomis and all that
00:03 < TYV2000> i'm trying to l2 draw, but I wouldn't count on me
00:03 < Kyuh> yeaaaah!
00:03 <@Kaos-Machina> in that order, yeah
00:03 < onix> we should have three characters
00:04 <@EyePencils> Rule of three, indeed indeed.
00:04 < anony> onix: lol, I can do decent sketches but not on a fuckin tablet
00:04 < onix> ....and they are all dating each other full consciously
00:04 < onix> to eliminate shipping
00:04 < Kyuh> no no no
00:04 < assss> there could be many types of wizards
00:04 <@Kaos-Machina> should the villain be a necromancer
00:04 < onix> yes...yes...and there are these bad guys
00:04 <@EyePencils> No names, please. We should leave some character customization to the few readers we'll have.
00:04 < anony> we should have three... dozen characters
00:04 < onix> ^
00:04 <@EyePencils> We should have
00:04 < bort> one is a male in his later thirties who lives with him mother and has achieved wizard status
00:04 <@EyePencils> so many characters.
00:04 < assss> necromancers and demon summoning wizards could be the bad types
00:05 < Kyuh> let's talk about the world first man
00:05 < Kyuh> then the characters
00:05 < TYV2000> well we have all these writers, maybe we could assign a certain number of characters to each of us
00:05 < Kyuh> sounds more organized
00:05 < anony> no the protagonist should be a necromancer
00:05 <@EyePencils> Yes. World is paramount.
00:05 <@Kaos-Machina> Gangster Wizard could be cool
00:05 <@EyePencils> We need a backdrop.
00:05 < TYV2000> to write
00:05 < anony> no wait this is starting to sound like 88
00:05 < assss> this is the world technically
00:05 <@Kaos-Machina> 88?
00:05 < TYV2000> OK SO SETTING
00:05 < Kyuh> I say modern setting
00:05 <@Kaos-Machina> SETTING
00:05 < Kyuh> fantasy can suck my dick
00:05 <@EyePencils> Modernish.
00:05 < bort> modern mite b cool
00:05 < TYV2000> OUR WORLD/ ANOTHER WORLD/ ALTERNATE UNIVERSE?
00:05 <@EyePencils> It has wizards we have all the fantasy elements we need.
00:05 <@Kaos-Machina> modern, or five minutes into the future
00:05 < anony> TYV2000: yes
00:06 <@Kaos-Machina> not our world, but similar
00:06 <@EyePencils> Five minutes into the future, I'd say.
00:06 <@Kaos-Machina> or
00:06 <@Kaos-Machina> somethign
00:06 <@EyePencils> Or 40 years in the past?
00:06 < anony> years in the past
00:06 < assss> like I said proto-Edwardian dieselpunk paleo WW2 retro raygun gothic style of world
00:06 < anony> but not many
00:06 <@EyePencils> Like a noir film except with magic. Narration gets passed around like a joint in a smoker's circle.
00:06 < bort> like parodies of cities and places and shit
00:06 < Kyuh> whaaa
00:06 <@Kaos-Machina> 40 years in the past.... So, like, Hippie wizards?
00:07 < anony> hell yes
00:07 <@EyePencils> ... 60 years in the past.
00:07 < assss> all the cities could be different architectural styles
00:07 <@EyePencils> SOrry I forgot we were in the 2010s.
00:07 < bort> >2010 was 40 years ago
00:07 < assss> one city is gothic, the other is art deco, the other is bauhaus
00:07 <@Kaos-Machina> awww
00:07 < TYV2000> then again 70's wizards sound interesting
00:07 <@Kaos-Machina> I was set for Jimmy Hendrix the Guitar Wizard
00:07 < anony> wizards of FUNK
00:07 < Kyuh> what if just one big city
00:07 <@EyePencils> That 70s show, except everyone is a Wizard.
00:07 < TYV2000> fund it
00:07 < assss> hanging out
00:07 < assss> down the street
00:08 < Kyuh> hahaha
00:08 <@EyePencils> I'd watch casual wizarding.
00:08 < TYV2000> fez using telekenisis to lift girl's skirts up
00:08 < assss> they all have their casette players and stuff
00:08 <@EyePencils> I'm sick of all this "we gotta save the world from evil magic" or "wacky hijinks with young wizards"
00:08 < Kyuh> but wouldn't that be like wizards slice of life?
00:08 < onix> me uh...me too
00:08 < bort> we should take that premise
00:08 < assss> they talking at a round table, with the narration going in a circle
00:08 <@EyePencils> ...Yeah I guess so.
00:08 < bort> and flip it turnways
00:08 < onix> turnways!?!? are you insane?
00:08 <@EyePencils> asssss woah woah woah
00:08 <@EyePencils> too many Ses.
00:08 <@EyePencils> Whatever
00:09 <@EyePencils> That's actually a pretty sick idea.
00:09 <@EyePencils> We're all writers here.
00:09 < assss> they all have afros
00:09 < xtralargerobutt> assss: like that 70's show?
00:09 <@EyePencils> Okay can I have the floor for a second here,
00:09 < Kyuh> i guess...
00:09 < assss> yes
00:09 < anony> what if like, the ethereal plane was just a really chill hang-out spot for wizards
00:09 < TYV2000> go head
00:09 < Kyuh> yeah
00:09 <@EyePencils> I just thought of something wicked.
00:09 < bort> what if biker timetravelling wizards from outerspace
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00:09 < assss> of the three characters one is the token black guy
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00:10 < bort> he is kiled off first
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00:10 <+assss> and he's a also a woman who is genderqueer
00:10 <@EyePencils> Okay, so we're all writers. Let's say we take this kind of narration thing into consideration. Round table of Wizards. Whenever we switch perspectives of the story we're telling, we switch the writer who's explaining what's going on.
00:10 <@EyePencils> It's like
00:10 <+assss> and tetrasexual hyperromantic
00:10 < bort> a strong independant genderquuer who dont need no magic
00:10 <+TYV2000> that's what I was thinking
00:10 <@EyePencils> we're recollecting something that happened,
00:10 <@EyePencils> and we're piecing together an incident.
00:10 <+assss> this is great write this down
00:10 < onix> ok
00:10 < onix> i cant wait...im going to start now
00:10 <@EyePencils> So it starts with a crime.
00:10 <+TYV2000> so we'd essentially be roleplaying our characters?
00:11 < onix> so a black guy a genderqueer girl and who else?
00:11 <@EyePencils> Sort of, yes.
00:11 <+assss> they all be playing pong consoles with their wands
00:11 < Kyuh> sounds good actually
00:11 < Kyuh> the crime part in particullar
00:11 <+assss> is there a way I can change my name?
00:11 < xtralargerobutt> you type /nick
00:11 <+TYV2000> 70's crime slice-of-life?
00:11 <+assss> assss is dumb
00:11 <@EyePencils> Crime happens, then "we", as wizards, are brought into questioning. We all know something that went down that night of the crime. We all share our particular side of the story, with personal situations that add to the fun.
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00:12 <+Jib> okay good
00:12 < Kyuh> but then what would happen when the crime is solved?
00:12 <+anony> wait shit is this roleplaying
00:12 <@EyePencils> The adcenture would be over.
00:12 <@EyePencils> Not really, no anony.
00:12 <@EyePencils> It's more like we're writing a narrative.
00:12 <@EyePencils> For a character that more or less
00:12 <@Kaos-Machina> anyway, I'm loggin' this, so yeah
00:12 <@EyePencils> HSG or whoever is creating for us.
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00:12 <+Jib> okay
00:13 <@EyePencils> It's just as much a writing exercise as it is an adventure.
00:13 <@EyePencils> We take suggestions as to what happened
00:13 < headshot420brony> this name sounds more detrimental than good fun
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00:13 <@EyePencils> to the person while we continue their narration as the writer who is going for that week or that fortnight or whatever.
00:13 <@Kaos-Machina> So, it's like a Rashomon style thing?
00:13 <+Jib> what are the wizard's names?
00:14 <+anony> no names
00:14 < Kyuh> we would have to establish the other characters, I mean not OUR characters
00:14 <@EyePencils> Names and Character Information is all established by our people.
00:14 <@EyePencils> I mean, readers.
00:14 <+Jib> no names?
00:14 <+Jib> oh okay
00:14 <@EyePencils> I suppose we could give like
00:14 <+anony> I mean, minions
00:14 <@EyePencils> filler names.
00:14 <+Jib> they could have little wizard minion monsters
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00:14 <@EyePencils> Familiars?
00:14 < Kyuh> I'm getting crazy ghost trick vibes from this
00:14 <+Jib> like a gremlin or inp
00:14 < bort> familiars
00:14 <@EyePencils> I was hoping that topic would be breached, actually.
00:14 <@EyePencils> Familiars for the Wizards.
00:15 <+anony> the wizards should have ridiculous codenames
00:15 <@EyePencils> Little goofy sidekicks that work in tandem with the motives of the wizards.
00:15 <+anony> like Midnight Dolphin or some shit
00:15 < bort> we could have the sterotypical cat, owl, and so on...
00:15 <+Jib> the familiars could be like silly animals like an ostrich
00:15 < bort> and then get creative
00:15 < Kyuh> oh man SPIRIT ANIMALS
00:15 <@EyePencils> Or maybe fantastical creatures.
00:15 < bort> like a fucking hawk with a monocle and a suit
00:15 <@EyePencils> I mean, we DO have fantasy elements.
00:16 <@EyePencils> Like little golems and faeries and talking frogs and gnomes.
00:16 <+Jib> there could different classes of wizards too
00:16 <@EyePencils> Yes! Of course!
00:16 <+anony> regular animals with a twist, like maybe they're all-white and have no eyes
00:16 <@EyePencils> Alright we're really on to something here.
00:16 < xtralargerobutt> anony: like lusii
00:16 < Kyuh> ok so
00:16 < bort> a frog named tibbim
00:16 <+anony> what's a lusus
00:16 <+Jib> like ditch wizards, necromancers, nymphomancers, matter mixers, water witches
00:16 < bort> like that little fella up there in the corner
00:17 < Kyuh> a crime happens, the wizards get together and solve the crime through their familiars?
00:17 <+anony> technowizard has a gremlin familiar
00:17 <@EyePencils> A crime happens, the wizards are suspects in the crime, and they all have to tell their side of the story of what happened.
00:17 <+Jib> technowizard yes
00:17 < bort> i love that
00:17 <+Jib> they could look like the mechanicus from warhammer
00:18 <+Jib> wires everywhere and shit
00:18 < bort> like that one king of the hill or KND episode
00:18 < Kyuh> ohh, so one of the wizards WAS the culprit
00:18 <@EyePencils> Yes, exactly, bort!
00:18 <@EyePencils> Yes, Kyuh.
00:18 < bort> hell yeah
00:18 <+anony> what kind of wizardy crime have the wizards witnessed
00:18 <@EyePencils> I guess that's the real poser.
00:18 <@EyePencils> What DID happen?
00:18 <@EyePencils> Is it a robbery? A murder?
00:18 <+Jib> illegal alchemy
00:18 <@EyePencils> Murder seems to have the most intrigue. Considering magic would be harder to solve with regular means.
00:19 <+anony> wizardy intellectual property infringement
00:19 < Kyuh> but maybe not all wizards do alchemy
00:19 <+Jib> they break the wizard copyright laws
00:19 <+anony> some is filesharing spells
00:19 <@EyePencils> Heheheh.
00:19 <+Jib> cause you can copyright spells and potions and stuff
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00:19 <+Jib> and they shut down WTorrent
00:19 < bort> should there be wizard rules and restrictions to their powers?
00:20 < Kyuh> maybe not kill another wizard to start with
00:20 <@EyePencils> Magic used to harm another is forbidden.
00:20 <+anony> basically one of the wizards is running the wizard equivalent of the Pirate Bay
00:20 <+Jib> the Warlock Bay
00:20 <@EyePencils> Where's the intrigue in that, though? Everything is more fun with Murder.
00:20 < bort> if one was to break these rules would they lose their powers?
00:20 <@EyePencils> They would be killed, of course.
00:21 < bort> oooooh
00:21 <@EyePencils> Wizards are tough motherfuckers.
00:21 <@EyePencils> And also assholes.
00:21 <+anony> well obviously the Warlock Bay would be politically motivated
00:21 < Kyuh> no wait wait
00:21 <+anony> "magic should be open source!"
00:21 < Kyuh> what if
00:21 < Kyuh> the murdered wizard was pushing for "magic for non-wizards"
00:21 <@EyePencils> Sounds legit.
00:22 <+anony> so it's like, yeah maybe he was a criminal but did he deserve to die
00:22 <+anony> who knows
00:22 <+anony> let's read this story and find out
00:22 < bort> and no one likes his idea so he sets out on his own and and and...
00:22 <@EyePencils> What if the Murdered Wizard was the Wizard-Mayor of the town they all live in?
00:22 < xtralargerobutt> but then we have to give all the wizards motives
00:22 <@EyePencils> Up the ante.
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00:22 <@EyePencils> So we all say "Wizard Murderer" as the plot, right?
00:23 < Kyuh> yeah I like it
00:23 <+anony> what like a serial wizard murderer
00:23 <+anony> some dude just hates wizards
00:23 <+Jib> 70's wizard murders
00:23 <@EyePencils> Nah, just an out-of-place homicide.
00:23 < bort> one wizard was trying to help his wizard bro another was trying to bring the renegade wizard to justice and another guy was walking home and got caught in the middle of all this bullshit
00:23 <+Jib> it's like the zodiac killer but with wizards
00:24 <@EyePencils> All we know is,
00:24 <@EyePencils> some dude is dead,
00:24 <@EyePencils> these wizards are involved,
00:24 <@EyePencils> they're trying to prove they're innocence.
00:24 <@EyePencils> (And one of them is lying to get out of it.)
00:24 <+Jib> theme song by cheap trick
00:24 < Kyuh> what if this all happens in the grand wizard court room
00:24 < bort> what if someone is against wizards and set them all up
00:25 <+anony> this will be very tricky to write if we don't know who's guilty from the beginning
00:25 <@EyePencils> Indeed, anony.
00:25 <+anony> we would probably have to do more planning than is conventional for an adventure-style story
00:25 <@EyePencils> So one of us needs to claim the role of murderer, no matter who their character is.
00:25 < bort> who are our wizards though and how many are there?
00:25 <+TYV2000> http://i.imgur.com/AL3Oc.jpg
00:25 <+TYV2000> concept art do not steal
00:25 <+Jib> the fuck
00:25 <@EyePencils> pffhahahaha
00:25 <+Jib> how did you do that
00:25 < bort> is that the box from ATHF
00:25 < Kyuh> hehehe
00:25 <@EyePencils> anony, you're very right.
00:26 <+Jib> it's boxy brown
00:26 <@EyePencils> This would take
00:26 <@EyePencils> LOADS of planning.
00:26 <+anony> that wizard is dynamite in a bun
00:26 <+TYV2000> i actually wasn't even trying to draw boxy
00:26 <+TYV2000> but ok
00:26 <@EyePencils> Okay, so just so we're all clear.
00:27 < Kyuh> ?
00:27 <@EyePencils> 70s Wizard Murder Mystery "Whodunnit"-style multi-narrative improvisation-characterization.
00:27 <+Jib> yes
00:27 < bort> sure
00:27 < Kyuh> yep
00:27 <@EyePencils> Just wanted to sort that out so we're all on the same page.
00:28 <@EyePencils> Is there
00:28 <+anony> but like, is it a wizard crime or (if you'll pardon the expression) a muggle crime
00:28 <@EyePencils> anything else we need to establish
00:28 <@EyePencils> A Wizard Crime. A wizard did it.
00:28 <@EyePencils> We can pretty much use that as a title, really.
00:28 <@EyePencils> "A Wizard Did It."
00:28 <+anony> so they are giving their testimonies to a wizard officer
00:28 <~Kaos-Machina> Rashomon style wizard crimes, got it
00:28 <+Jib> spoilers
00:28 <+TYV2000> ok did one of our characters actually do it, or is it someone else
00:28 <+anony> spot on title
00:29 < Kyuh> yeah I like the court thing going on
00:29 <+anony> oh
00:29 < xtralargerobutt> guys i need to sleep. I'll keep the chat open and post the transcript of this on a pastebin in the morning, 'kay?
00:29 <+anony> they're in court?
00:29 <+TYV2000> k
00:29 < bort> a twist would be if it is someone else
00:29 <+Jib> cya xlr
00:29 < bort> not in the group
00:29 <@EyePencils> One of our characters actually did it, "we" are all in the court room and we're being interrogated one by one about our recollection of the last night.
00:29 <+TYV2000> yeah but the story is being told through stories
00:29 -!- Kaos-Machina changed the topic of #wwizards to: A WIZARD DID IT - An HSG Wizard Adventure
00:29 <+anony> a court requires a defendant though
00:29 <+anony> defendent?
00:30 <+TYV2000> are all of our characters going to be at the same event that night, or are they all doing their own thign?
00:30 -!- Kaos-Machina changed the topic of #wwizards to: A WIZARD DID IT - An HSG Wizard Adventure/Mystery
00:30 <@EyePencils> Obviously Phoenix Wright, Wizard Attorney.
00:30 <+Jib> the defendent is a ghost
00:30 < bort> i like it
00:30 <@EyePencils> Hahaha
00:30 < Kyuh> the ghost of the victic
00:30 < Kyuh> *victim
00:30 <@EyePencils> that's great.
00:30 <+anony> that's the plaintiff
00:30 <+TYV2000> if we get an artist, have everyone dress normally, except if they're a wizard they have a stupid hat on
00:30 <+anony> or
00:30 <+anony> am I thinking of civil law
00:30 <+TYV2000> so like
00:30 <+TYV2000> wizards in suits
00:31 <@EyePencils> Yes, because they're in Court.
00:31 <+anony> or a wizard in a hoodie
00:31 <~Kaos-Machina> The Butler Wizard did it
00:31 <@EyePencils> During recollections it would be more
00:31 <@EyePencils> casual wizard wear.
00:31 <+TYV2000> yeah
00:31 < Kyuh> hahaha this sounds good
00:32 <+anony> female wizards are underrepresented in this story
00:32 <+TYV2000> ok so were our characters all at the place the murder happened?
00:32 <+TYV2000> like somewhere public
00:32 <@EyePencils> Yes, they were there when the murder happened.
00:32 <+Jib> in the dining roon
00:32 <@EyePencils> Or at least nearby.
00:32 < bort> what if towards the end, when we are about to declare a verdict, the culprit, stands up and decides that he doesnt want to go to wizard prison and goes on a killing spree in the courtroom
00:32 <+TYV2000> ok do our wizards know each other or were they all just seperate bystanders
00:32 <+anony> "end of act one"
00:33 <@EyePencils> I guess it could be separate bystanders, but maybe they might know one another?
00:33 <+Jib> one wizard can be a woman
00:33 <@EyePencils> "He's my baby's mama"
00:33 <@EyePencils> "This dude was my old friend from wizard school"
00:33 < bort> like 2 might know each other
00:33 <+TYV2000> maybe two or three are in a group or something
00:33 < Kyuh> I guess everyone should know the victim at least
00:33 <+TYV2000> woah
00:33 <@EyePencils> Indeed. Yes this is good stuff.
00:33 < bort> the victim was a popular dude
00:33 <+Jib> they all meat the victim unrelatedly
00:34 <+anony> so if only wizards witnessed the crime and they are being tried in wizard court
00:34 <+anony> then did the crime take place in the ethereal plane
00:34 <@EyePencils> It could take place
00:34 <@EyePencils> anywhere.
00:34 < bort> yes wizard bailiff wizard jude and all
00:34 <+TYV2000> no wizards arent the only ones to witness it
00:34 < Kyuh> no wait
00:34 <+TYV2000> but the evidence points to a wizard
00:34 <+Jib> wizard judge is a grand wizard
00:34 <+anony> wait are wizards mingling with normals
00:34 <+Jib> no kkk relation
00:34 < Kyuh> the victim was killed by a gun shot
00:34 <+anony> people are just like, yeah, wizards, that's a thing
00:34 <+Jib> a gun shot by magic
00:34 < bort> so is this a world where everyone is a wizard or just a standard world where everyone is aware of wizards existance
00:35 < bort> oh okay then
00:35 < Kyuh> so why do they call everyone? because the ghost knows it was a wizard
00:35 <+anony> if everyone is a wizard then is anyone a wizard
00:35 < Kyuh> he says "A wizard did it!"
00:35 <+Jib> this is great
00:35 -!- Rent [~Mibbit@Rizon-FBF88EE6.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]
00:35 < Kyuh> I say secret wizards
00:35 <+anony> are the wizards color-coded
00:35 <+anony> lord of the rings style
00:35 < bort> so are wizards like mutants? like some type of x-men shit here or something ?
00:36 <+anony> the purple wizard is the funkiest
00:36 <@EyePencils> Wizards are virgins. 30 years baby.
00:36 <+TYV2000> oh god
00:36 <+Jib> wizards are just normal people
00:36 <+Jib> but there's different types of them
00:36 <+TYV2000> wizards are normal, but if you dont get laid by your 30th brithday you become a wizard
00:36 < bort> transcended people
00:36 < Kyuh> man this could be so fun set in modern times, we really could get the 30 year old virgin involved
00:36 <~Kaos-Machina> how does magic work
00:37 < bort> magnets
00:37 <~Kaos-Machina> are we talking like
00:37 < Kyuh> it's magic, we don't have to explain shit
00:37 <+anony> what's wrong with 30 year old virgin 70s wizards
00:37 <~Kaos-Machina> have to prepare spells a la dnd, say some words and wave your swizzlestick, what
00:37 <@EyePencils> Hmm.
00:37 <+Jib> the 70s is important
00:37 <+anony> their magic is more potent because they are virgins in the era of free love
00:37 < bort> afro wizards for sure
00:37 <+Jib> they all vote for wizard nixon and stuff
00:37 < Kyuh> hahaha ok
00:38 <@EyePencils> Yes okay.
00:38 <~Kaos-Machina> or do different wizards use magic differently
00:38 <@EyePencils> Important question everyone, thank you Kaos.
00:38 <@EyePencils> What kind of Magic is this?
00:38 <~Kaos-Machina> I'm really set on the idea of Wizard Hendrix
00:38 <+Jib> just magic
00:38 <+anony> "miscellaneous"
00:38 < Kyuh> I say different "schools" of magic
00:38 <@EyePencils> Different schools would be fun.
00:38 <+TYV2000> what do you mean what type of magic
00:38 <+Jib> like in oblivion
00:38 <+anony> like we have standard elemental wizards, then some abstract wizards
00:39 <+Jib> necromancers and stuff
00:39 <+anony> then one wizard is just, he went to the school of miscellaneous magic
00:39 < Kyuh> like this guys is really good at illusions but can't do shit other than that
00:39 < bort> oh alright
00:39 <+anony> for magic that doesn't fit into any other school
00:39 < bort> magic is like a general thing
00:39 < bort> that people can like harness
00:39 < bort> and sort of
00:40 < Kyuh> hey, I'll be out for a little, keep talking
00:40 <@EyePencils> If they are specifically trained in it?
00:40 <+TYV2000> but you have to study it?
00:40 <+TYV2000> cool
00:40 < bort> fuck i lost my train of thought
00:40 <@EyePencils> Yes yes this is good. I like that.
00:40 <~Kaos-Machina> If you're a virgin at 30?
00:40 <+TYV2000> maybe the longer you're a virgin the stronger your power grows
00:40 <+Jib> they level in their wizard school
00:40 <+Jib> level up
00:41 <+anony> don't you lose your powers if you are ever not-virgin
00:41 <@EyePencils> Suddenly RPG elements. Levelling up in your particular "school" of magic in order to get better.
00:41 <~Kaos-Machina> ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
00:41 <+TYV2000> no you just get really weak
00:41 <+TYV2000> like you can't do much other than basic shit
00:41 < bort> what if dark arts and black magic?
00:41 <+anony> wizard has to go on a quest to get his virginity back
00:41 <+anony> damn harlot stole it from him
00:41 <~Kaos-Machina> but then how will we reveal the twist that two of the witnesses were secret lovers
00:41 <@EyePencils> Hahaha
00:42 <+TYV2000> maybe we can do virinity quest after the murder thing
00:42 <@EyePencils> I think the "Virgin Wizard Powers" would be pretty lame and not all that relevant to the adventure.
00:42 <+anony> our only female character is going to be in a relationship with one of the other male characters
00:42 <+TYV2000> like one of those stoner movies where they go fucking everywhere for something really lame
00:42 <~Kaos-Machina> It'd kinda fall flat if it went "Yeah, we all knew you two were fucking, you guys can't magic good"
00:42 <+anony> also: female wizard...???
00:42 <~Kaos-Machina> At least two
00:42 <+Jib> the virgin wizard thing is kinda dumb
00:42 <@EyePencils> Wizards can be girls.
00:43 <@EyePencils> I mean
00:43 <@EyePencils> other way around.
00:43 <@EyePencils> Fuck.
00:43 <+anony> maybe all female wizards start out as male wizards
00:43 <~Kaos-Machina> well, technically, with polymorph.............
00:43 <+anony> but use reconstructive magic
00:43 <@EyePencils> Alright let's
00:43 <@EyePencils> let's stop THAT train of thought.
00:43 < bort> this is so silly
00:43 <+Jib> yeah
00:44 <@EyePencils> Sometimes
00:44 <@EyePencils> it's just magic.
00:44 <+Jib> I'm high and this is silly
00:44 <+TYV2000> maybe we just keep it casual magic
00:44 <@EyePencils> You don't have to explain much.
00:44 <+TYV2000> like maybe magic is a hobby
00:44 < bort> just a world where wizards and people coexist
00:44 < bort> no one questions shit
00:44 <+Jib> do people know about wizards?
00:45 <@EyePencils> Yes. It's kind of a thing they've decided to say
00:45 < bort> yes they are like a differernt race of people
00:45 <@EyePencils> "Well you CAN become a Wizard if you want to little billy."
00:45 < bort> like blacks or asians
00:45 <+anony> "but why would you want to"
00:45 < bort> you walk down the street and see a wizard coming by
00:45 <@EyePencils> Exactly. It takes a lot of hard work and dedication.
00:45 <+Jib> the pope can be a wizard
00:45 <@EyePencils> Like becoming a Doctor.
00:45 < bort> and you quickly turn the corner
00:45 <~Kaos-Machina> or an astronaut
00:45 <+TYV2000> get jumped by a group of wizrads in a bad neighborhood
00:45 <+anony> more like being a wizard is fuckin useless
00:46 < bort> wizards are discriminated
00:46 <~Kaos-Machina> hmmm
00:46 <+anony> we gotta subvert some expectations here, there's not enough whimsy in this wizardy murder mystery
00:46 <~Kaos-Machina> astronaut wizard
00:46 <+TYV2000> i agree annony
00:46 < bort> a human killed the wizard
00:46 <@EyePencils> Some wizards are loopy motherfuckers.
00:46 < bort> if a wizrd had killed another wizard wouldnt he have been killed for using his powers against the rules
00:47 <~Kaos-Machina> Druggie wizard, whose scene is just an account of his magical acid trip
00:47 <+Jib> oh god the current hsg is being nasty
00:47 <@EyePencils> If he's discovered.
00:47 < bort> or some shit i dont know
00:47 <+TYV2000> yes it is
00:47 < bort> i blame feferi
00:47 <+Jib> feferi sucks
00:47 <~Kaos-Machina> Is there an exception for self-defence
00:47 <+TYV2000> what if wizardry is equivilent to like martial arts or something
00:47 <+Jib> but back to wizards and not eat flesh balls
00:47 <@EyePencils> I agree with TYV.
00:48 < bort> i lie self defence
00:48 < bort> it could work
00:48 <+TYV2000> it takes like training and discipline, so it isn't for everyone
00:48 <+anony> like maybe being a wizard is an extrapolation of becoming a college professor
00:48 <+TYV2000> and if you train in offensive magics you have to get a permit to practice it
00:48 < bort> once you reach a black belt
00:48 < bort> your hands are considere lethal weapons
00:49 <+anony> you put a lot of work into learning a very small niche of useless spells to have the privilege to earn half as much as actual productive members of society
00:49 < bort> maybe we can do somethin g similar with magic
00:49 <@EyePencils> Yes, TYV has some nice points here. It would make it so that Magic isn't like, a really horrible or amazing thing, but sort of a skill that you can pick up to make you feel safer and/or live easier.
00:49 <+TYV2000> maybe after the casual training there's militarized wizards
00:49 <~Kaos-Machina> Magic is like a gun.
00:50 <+TYV2000> and they could be like jocks or something
00:50 <~Kaos-Machina> But with practical applications.
00:50 <@EyePencils> I think we're getting far too into minute details that won't matter much unless they absolutely need to be brought up in the story.
00:51 <+TYV2000> yeah, i know. just something funny i thought of
00:51 <+anony> so you want to write a story about murder suspects that can use "generic magical abilities"
00:51 <@EyePencils> Well, no.
00:51 <@EyePencils> I want the cast of characters to be as interesting as they are varied or whatever.
00:52 <+anony> well I was more saying
00:52 <+anony> the magic plays a pivotal role in this trial
00:52 <+TYV2000> so is our story going to play our like vantage point, where the readers go through the night several times, pickiing up new information every time?
00:52 <+anony> it's the kind of thing we need to work out in advance
00:52 <@EyePencils> Yes, that's the idea, TYV. And I suppose so, anony.
00:52 <+TYV2000> play out*
00:52 <@EyePencils> So alright.
00:53 <@EyePencils> I guess we should establish a set of rules on how magic can function once you master it?
00:53 <+anony> well not all of the suspects are going to masters are they?
00:53 <+anony> masters would be pretty rare
00:53 <+TYV2000> yeah, just so that if we get lead down that path we don't have to make it up then
00:53 < Kyuh> ok so what happened
00:54 <@EyePencils> Alright, well, field of influence.
00:54 <@EyePencils> How far away can you magic something?
00:54 <@EyePencils> 15 feet?
00:54 <@EyePencils> 20 feet?
00:54 <+TYV2000> uhh
00:54 <+TYV2000> masters can get up to maybe 25-30
00:54 <+TYV2000> depending on the spell
00:54 <+TYV2000> like fire would be maybe 15-30
00:54 <+anony> depends on school, I would think
00:55 <+TYV2000> but arcane (plain magic) would be closer to the full 30 feet
00:55 <+anony> I mean, like, if you've got clairvoyant wizards, they'd be pretty useless with a 30 foot working area
00:55 <@EyePencils> Sounds fair.
00:55 <+TYV2000> wait fire is 15-20*
00:55 <@EyePencils> Oh, true anony.
00:55 < Kyuh> I think magic shouldn't have range man
00:56 <+TYV2000> it has to
00:56 <+TYV2000> if it doesn't they don't know where the killer had to have been
00:56 <@EyePencils> I can't wait to get a slap in the face from Gods know where
00:56 < bort> maybe one wizard specializes in mid games and that kind of magic and uses that to his advantage in court
00:56 <+TYV2000> yeah exactly
00:56 < bort> .damn this is tough
00:56 <@EyePencils> Magic is crazy.
00:56 <+anony> bort: like speech-magic
00:56 < Kyuh> MY BRAIN IS FULL OF MAGIC
00:56 <@EyePencils> This might actually get to Intermission levels of mindfuckery.
00:56 <+TYV2000> but then again we're trying to write a whole story in hours
00:56 <+anony> all, master of parlay
00:56 <+TYV2000> it just takes time, guys
00:57 <@EyePencils> Yes, that's the idea.
00:57 < bort> fucking hussie
00:57 <@EyePencils> We need to slowly hack away at this
00:57 < bort> how does he do it?
00:57 <+TYV2000> maybe it'll make sense later
00:57 <@EyePencils> one night at a time.
00:57 <+anony> *parley
00:57 < Kyuh> MAGIC: It just works!
00:57 <+TYV2000> i'd imagine hussie starts writing things well in advance before he draws them
00:57 <+anony> everyone will suspect the wizard that can do parley magic
00:57 <+anony> he's a red herring
00:57 <@EyePencils> Let's make sure to establish one more thing tonight.
00:57 < bort> yah we ae jumping all over the place with this
00:57 <@EyePencils> Which is "how magic works".
00:58 <@EyePencils> Because that will kind of set the scene on what we can think of adding on in the future.
00:58 <+anony> TYV2000: he plans out general arcs but for the most part just sits down and starts typing
00:58 < Kyuh> what do you mean with how it works?
00:58 <+TYV2000> so yeah
00:58 <+TYV2000> sort of what we're doign
00:59 <@EyePencils> Well we need guidelines to what magic can or can't do.
00:59 < Kyuh> I mean, do you need something to cast?, certain time of the day? a special feeling?
00:59 <@EyePencils> A wand or staff to cast, as all wizards should know.
00:59 <+anony> limitations on magic? what is this, physics?
00:59 <@EyePencils> ..I like physics... :c
00:59 < Kyuh> what if just a special item, replacing the wand/staff
00:59 <+anony> was joke :0
00:59 <+TYV2000> like a totem
00:59 <@EyePencils> :'c
00:59 <+TYV2000> inceptin
00:59 <@EyePencils> A totem might be interesting.
01:00 < Kyuh> maybe a wizard could use a guitar to cast magic
01:00 <@EyePencils> "X couldn't cast spells that night, he didn't have his totem!"
01:00 <+TYV2000> not sure how THAT'D work though
01:00 <@EyePencils> And then it turned out X did? I dunno.
01:00 <@EyePencils> Anyways, yes.
01:00 <+anony> maybe humanity doesn't fully comprehend the limitations on magic
01:00 <@EyePencils> So totem. Basically, they need a focus.
01:00 <+anony> that's what wizarding academy is for
01:00 < Kyuh> but then BAM multiple totems out of nowhere
01:00 < bort> maybe something close to them can function as their wand
01:00 <+anony> they study the boundaries of magical influence
01:00 < bort> i like the guitar idea
01:00 <@EyePencils> Music Wizards.
01:01 <+anony> Funk Wizards
01:01 < Kyuh> what if everyone use musical instruments as totems?
01:01 <+TYV2000> oh jesus
01:01 <@EyePencils> Hmmm.
01:01 <@EyePencils> That is my "I don't think so" sound.
01:01 <+TYV2000> maybe theyr'e all at a concert the night of the mudder
01:01 <+anony> well I guess
01:01 <@EyePencils> It would be neat.
01:01 <+anony> there was a lot of folk music in the 70s right
01:01 <@EyePencils> But remember
01:01 <+anony> simon and garfunkel and shit
01:01 < Kyuh> I mean, they don't necessarily have to be in a band or something
01:01 <@EyePencils> we don't really
01:01 <+anony> that guy who did the soundtrack for The Hobbit
01:01 <@EyePencils> have an artist right now.
01:02 <+anony> but if we have musical wizards in the seventies, I mean, it's like, dude you gotta touch on 70s music
01:02 <+Jib> they could be at an Earth Wind and Fire concert
01:02 < bort> ELEMENTS
01:02 < bort> aaaaah
01:02 <+TYV2000> 70's was rock, folk, prog, and uhhh
01:02 <@EyePencils> I think we can leave it at "Totem", and maybe one or two wizards can have instruments as Focuses?
01:02 <+TYV2000> art rock
01:02 < Kyuh> we could make our little research while doing this though
01:02 <@EyePencils> Unless we really want music murder mystery.
01:02 <+anony> the three m's
01:03 <+anony> however
01:03 <+anony> we can't do a MMM without a musician
01:03 <+TYV2000> true
01:03 < Kyuh> yeah...
01:03 <@EyePencils> I only sing...
01:03 <@EyePencils> I don't know shit about instruments.
01:03 < bort> im sure we could find someone who can into musics around here
01:03 <@EyePencils> Surely.
01:03 <+Jib> I like music
01:03 <+TYV2000> I can play guitar, but I dont' know the first fuck about writing
01:04 <+TYV2000> music that is
01:04 < Kyuh> I think we should just
01:04 <@EyePencils> Keep it simple, silly.
01:04 < bort> yeeeeah
01:04 < Kyuh> yeah
01:04 < bort> simple
01:04 <@EyePencils> Stick with what we know. And that's Wizard Murder, obviously.
01:04 <+anony> that is ridiculous
01:04 < Kyuh> so ANYWAYS
01:04 < Kyuh> totems
01:04 <+anony> but complexity will emerge from interrelated simple systems
01:05 <@EyePencils> Totems, Yay or Nay?
01:05 <+TYV2000> ehhh
01:05 <+Jib> what are totems
01:05 <+anony> we should embrace complexity but I suppose we do need to stay on topic?
01:05 <+Jib> I went to the bathroom
01:05 <@EyePencils> Basically something that is considered a precious treasure to that particular person.
01:05 <+TYV2000> unique items that a wizard needs to cast magic
01:05 < Kyuh> something you need to cast, as a replace for wands
01:05 <@EyePencils> Oh shucks we got some
01:05 <@EyePencils> better ideas here, hahaha
01:05 <+Jib> verdict: ehhhh
01:06 <@EyePencils> Should we just stick to staves and wands?
01:06 <+anony> what better ideas
01:06 < bort> ehhh maybe we should just cut the totems
01:06 <+anony> did I miss something
01:06 < bort> i like it but shit is getting crazy right now
01:06 <+TYV2000> how about staves and wands as amplifiers
01:06 <+TYV2000> but not necessary
01:06 <+TYV2000> just to cast
01:06 <@EyePencils> Would be easy.
01:07 <+Jib> staves and staffs are supersized wands
01:07 <+TYV2000> the larger the staff, the larger the amplification
01:07 <@EyePencils> Then "WHAT A TWEEST HE BROUGHT HIS STAFF" could be used with wild abandon.
01:07 <@EyePencils> Increases range and power of spells cast? Like a Light spell would be brighter and reach farther.
01:07 <+anony> man if I was a wizard I would never not bring my staff
01:07 <+anony> my staff and me would be tight
01:07 <@EyePencils> Best buds?
01:07 <+anony> for sure
01:07 < Kyuh> I thought that was the point of the totem
01:07 <+Jib> they could also ride the bigger staffs
01:08 <+Jib> like a witch
01:08 < Kyuh> I mean, shit if I was a wizard I wouldn't want to carry my staff around the city all the time
01:08 <+TYV2000> MOTORCYCLE STAFF
01:08 <@EyePencils> So Staves and Wands, yay or nay?
01:08 <+TYV2000> yes, as amplifiers
01:08 <+TYV2000> is my vote
01:08 <@EyePencils> I would agree.
01:09 <+Jib> sure
01:09 <@EyePencils> Any objections or alternative suggestions?
01:09 < bort> i wasnt paying attention so ill just say Yes as well
01:09 < Kyuh> nah, let's go with wands
01:09 <+anony> staves are sexier than wands
01:09 <+anony> they're longer and thicker
01:09 <@EyePencils> stripper wizards.
01:09 <@EyePencils> no no no I'm not going down that path.
01:10 <+anony> hey
01:10 <+anony> wizarding college is expensive
01:10 < bort> th9ings are getting too sexy around here
01:10 <@EyePencils> Alright, so that's established. We have a means of casting and a means of casting stronger.
01:10 <@EyePencils> stuff.
01:10 < bort> back to the crime?
01:10 <@EyePencils> Hmm.
01:10 < Kyuh> well, staves are phallic symbols after all
01:10 <@EyePencils> Crime can be touched upon another night.
01:10 <+anony> the victim is a ghost
01:10 <+anony> but they were also a ghost before the murder
01:10 <+TYV2000> we're too deep into magic to talk about plot tonight
01:10 <+anony> so they just, like, went up a level
01:11 <@EyePencils> Exactly.
01:11 <+Jib> majyk
01:11 <+anony> to the hyper-ethereal plane
01:11 < Kyuh> what what
01:11 < Kyuh> so a ghost was the victim?
01:11 <@EyePencils> I don't even know.
01:11 <+Jib> no
01:11 <+TYV2000> ghosts were mentioned but I assumed it was a joke
01:11 <@EyePencils> I want to establish magic works so later we can talk about the crime with a better frame of reference.
01:11 <+Jib> the defendant is a gohst
01:11 <+TYV2000> good idea
01:11 <+TYV2000> eye
01:11 <+anony> uhhhhhhhh
01:12 <+anony> well this is some wacky ass wizard court
01:12 <+anony> that doesn't actually have a defendant
01:12 <@EyePencils> Because if we want to know HOW this crime happened, we need to know HOW magic worked in the first place in order to kill him.
01:12 <+anony> it's more like a group interrogation really
01:12 < bort> magic is complex shit though
01:12 <+TYV2000> and we can always go back and make alterations
01:12 <+anony> we don't need to figure out magic
01:12 <@EyePencils> Then we need to establish elements that would influence the case.
01:12 <+anony> just what its role is in society
01:13 <+TYV2000> well we're doing this thing based on input, aren't we?
01:13 <@EyePencils> Most of it, yes.
01:13 <@EyePencils> Or at least some of it.
01:13 <+anony> not if we want to tell a murder mystery
01:13 <@EyePencils> True... Shucks this is difficult :/
01:13 <+anony> unless we want the audience to pick the culprit
01:13 <@EyePencils> Woah what the fuck
01:13 <@EyePencils> that face
01:13 < Kyuh> I still don't get how we will work this out
01:14 < bort> :p
01:14 <+Jib> I don't know either
01:14 < Kyuh> I guess if we all had our motives, anyone could be the culprit after all
01:14 <+TYV2000> actually yeah, we can't have a thing where the characters all have the same interactions over and over again AND have use input
01:14 < bort> heh
01:14 <+anony> well we brainstorm a bunch of ideas and then no one draws anything and then we forget about it in a month
01:14 <@EyePencils> hahaha anony
01:14 <@EyePencils> that's
01:14 <@EyePencils> depressing...
01:14 <+Jib> but by the end, whoever is doing it is going to need a high whimsy tolerance
01:14 < Kyuh> maybe we can just plan plot points and work everything else through input
01:14 <@EyePencils> Sure.
01:15 <+TYV2000> maybe we should make a timeline of key events
01:15 <+Jib> haha cuntpi has a piss fetish
01:15 <+TYV2000> with several lines corresponding to each character
01:15 <@EyePencils> D:
01:15 <+Jib> what a weirdo
01:15 < bort> cuntpi sucks too
01:15 <+anony> cuntpi has an everything fetish
01:15 <@EyePencils> TYV is right.
01:15 <+TYV2000> and HOW they get to those events is up to the audience
01:15 <@EyePencils> At several moments one character has to see another character.
01:15 <@EyePencils> Certain meetings must be "scripted" I guess.
01:15 <+TYV2000> yes exactly
01:15 < Kyuh> yeah
01:16 <+TYV2000> well everything will be 'scripted', just not ahead of time
01:16 <@EyePencils> Fuck this is like making a big puzzle.
01:16 <+TYV2000> except for those few events
01:16 <+TYV2000> man this is a really great puzzle
01:16 <+anony> there are certain rules to writing murder mysteries
01:16 <@EyePencils> Share, anony.
01:16 <+TYV2000> yeah
01:16 <+TYV2000> brb
01:17 <+anony> I'm looking for a reference
01:17 < bort> shit reminds me of watching Case Closed and at the end im always like, "son of a bitch i didnt see that coming" and im left in confusion and awe.
01:17 < Kyuh> let me get my jammies on then
01:18 <+anony> http://www.thrillingdetective.com/trivia/triv186.html
01:18 <@EyePencils> Wouldn't we have to work backwards?
01:18 <+TYV2000> ok for number one
01:18 <+TYV2000> wait nvm
01:19 <@EyePencils> This is a retelling. We're not seeing their thoughts, we're seeing their... story, I guess.
01:19 <@EyePencils> Their lies?
01:19 <+anony> right
01:19 <@EyePencils> Or their retelling of where they went and who they saw.
01:19 <+anony> we can waive #1 as long as the audience understand they might be reading a lie
01:20 <+TYV2000> which may or may not be true
01:20 <@EyePencils> Indeed.
01:20 <+TYV2000> ok cool
01:20 <@EyePencils> Well.
01:20 <@EyePencils> #2...
01:20 <+TYV2000> number 2 isn't supernatural in the context of our story
01:20 <@EyePencils> This is magic. So to establish it, any "school" of magic can be weaponized.
01:20 <@EyePencils> Oh, true.
01:20 <@EyePencils> I guess that makes things... easier on uis.
01:20 <@EyePencils> us.
01:20 <@EyePencils> #3 doesn't seem
01:21 <+TYV2000> not sure what #3 means
01:21 <@EyePencils> like it would ever need to be used.
01:21 <@EyePencils> We don't need secret passages.
01:21 <+TYV2000> unless it's not a metaphor
01:21 <@EyePencils> #4 is waived. We're not using poison.
01:21 <@EyePencils> Actually what IS the means of murder?
01:21 <@EyePencils> Is the guy just dead,
01:21 <+TYV2000> 'magic'
01:21 <@EyePencils> with magic residue on him?
01:21 <+anony> the point of #2 and #4 is that the method of killing must be predictable
01:22 <@EyePencils> That would leave it with enough of a
01:22 <+TYV2000> maybe the wound is such that it's easily determinable as magic
01:22 <@EyePencils> I guess enough of a possibility for everyone jesus
01:22 <@EyePencils> my brain is not working right tonight.
01:22 <+TYV2000> like a hole through his chest or something
01:22 <@EyePencils> Yes, that's
01:22 <@EyePencils> what I was trying to say thank you TYV.
01:22 < Kyuh> maybe the magic police discovers the body, take out the ghost and question him, he says "a wizard did it!", but the body has magic residues from several wizards
01:22 <+TYV2000> what
01:23 <+anony> all like bullet casings
01:23 <@EyePencils> Magic identification of several wizards. Like he saw all of those wizards that night, maybe.
01:23 <+anony> they find different wizard's signatures at the scene of the crime
01:23 <@EyePencils> Like all wizards have that aura and it rubs off on the people they meet.
01:23 <+TYV2000> i say our wizards are the only ones who were at the event that night
01:24 <+TYV2000> the only wizards*
01:24 <+anony> maybe the victim has parallel universe vision and he wasn't sure which universe he was viewing
01:24 < Kyuh> wouldn't it be kind of obvious that a wizard did it if he had magic traces on him?
01:24 < bort> where is this event? For some reason i can only think of a warehous but that is totally fucking cliche
01:24 <+anony> well of course a wizard did it, it's in the title
01:24 < Kyuh> I mean, it kinda defeats the point
01:24 <+TYV2000> so the cops seee that a wizard did it, and pull all of the wizards out of the crowd
01:24 <@EyePencils> Well duh. Because a Wizard DID do it. We just don't know who because they're all mixed. Like a set of fingerprints all on the same cudgel.
01:25 < Kyuh> what if the victim was killed by a wizard, but not with magic
01:25 <+TYV2000> with the title being 'a wizard did it'
01:25 < bort> that woud be a nice twist
01:25 <+TYV2000> wouldn't it be funny
01:25 <+TYV2000> if we became hussie and hinted the whole time that it wasn't a wizard
01:25 <+anony> is that breaking the trust of the reader though
01:25 <+TYV2000> but then it still was
01:25 < bort> we go into detail about all this magic but it never really gts uesed
01:25 <+anony> well I guess not
01:25 < Kyuh> hahaha god
01:26 <+TYV2000> right before the verdict
01:26 <+TYV2000> we should take a hiatus
01:26 <@EyePencils> Pffffffhahahahaah
01:26 <@EyePencils> Noooooo
01:26 < Kyuh> hahahaah
01:26 <@EyePencils> that would be terrible
01:26 < bort> like one dude gets pissed and pulls up a wand and instead of using it he stabs the other dude
01:26 <@EyePencils> I can't stoop that low, personally.
01:26 <+anony> would it
01:26 <+anony> it would give the audience time to review the evidence
01:26 <+TYV2000> haha
01:27 <+TYV2000> oh wiat
01:27 <+TYV2000> no nevermind
01:27 < Kyuh> "we need some days to give a veredict"
01:27 <@EyePencils> Our audience generally would be
01:28 <+TYV2000> 2 week long jury deliberation
01:28 <@EyePencils> the Jury, wouldn't they.
01:28 <@EyePencils> And then when they come to a consensus
01:28 <@EyePencils> if they were wrong
01:28 <@EyePencils> we can laugh in their face.
01:28 < Kyuh> WROG
01:28 < bort> hehehe
01:28 <@EyePencils> BUT THEN
01:28 <@EyePencils> WE CAN
01:28 <+anony> so they will determine how the trial goes
01:28 <@EyePencils> START A NEW MURDER MYSTERY
01:28 <@EyePencils> UNTIL THEY CATCH THE KILLER>
01:28 <+anony> and if the general consensus is wrong, there are consequences
01:28 <@EyePencils> Yes, sort of.
01:28 <+anony> oh
01:28 < Kyuh> aww man
01:29 <+anony> so then it becomes a serial murder mystery
01:29 <@EyePencils> We would have to reveal the killer, of course.
01:29 < Kyuh> what if they choose wrong
01:29 <+TYV2000> ok well obviously we can't SAY that the readers got it wrong
01:29 <+TYV2000> because if someone is reading it in archives or something
01:29 <+TYV2000> it'll seem dumb
01:29 < Kyuh> and the guilty wizard is executed
01:29 <+TYV2000> yeah
01:29 <+TYV2000> and nobody knows if it was him or not
01:29 < bort> I rmemeber watching this show called Justice
01:29 <+TYV2000> EXCEPT US
01:29 <+anony> it's like playing mafia
01:30 <@EyePencils> Actually... yeah, anony.
01:30 <@EyePencils> You're right.
01:30 < bort> and at the end of every episode they would reveal what actualy happened
01:30 <@EyePencils> It really is like Mafia.
01:30 <+anony> the townies lynch people until the mafia is dead or outnumber the town
01:30 < Kyuh> only we would mourn the guy
01:30 < bort> despite the outcome of the trial
01:30 <@EyePencils> I like bort's idea. Always reveal what went down at the end, no matter the ending.
01:30 <+TYV2000> ok so like
01:30 < bort> like one episode some poor sap was found guilty
01:30 <+anony> I think that's tricky to pull off
01:31 <+TYV2000> wizard A gets executed
01:31 < bort> and vgot life in prison
01:31 <+anony> we have to continue the story if we don't have a conclusive ending
01:31 <+TYV2000> but if wizard B did it, we show him doing it
01:31 < bort> but then they showed the actual scenario and i was like OH SNAP
01:31 <@EyePencils> Actually thinking about it now, that WOULD be.
01:31 < Kyuh> what if the first victim gives a warning?
01:31 <@EyePencils> Several elements in one person's story
01:31 <@EyePencils> would have to be out of place.
01:31 < Kyuh> a wizard did it, and will do it again
01:31 <+TYV2000> ok so then we have a few of them be out of place
01:31 <+anony> a wizard did it too
01:31 <+TYV2000> so that there is doubt for several of them
01:32 <@EyePencils> And we have five-six different perspectives, so something has to be said by someone that doesn't agree with the others.
01:32 <+anony> electric boogaloo
01:32 <+TYV2000> or maybe EVERYONE'S is a tiny bit different
01:32 < Kyuh> hahahahah
01:32 <@EyePencils> These differences can be explained through different character traits, like one character only having one eye so he doesn't notice a particular detail that someone else lied about.
01:32 <+TYV2000> i like that
01:33 <@EyePencils> Or we could do this Ace Attorney style. The Audience is our Defendant, interrogating the "witness/suspect" about the nights of the murder.
01:34 <+anony> these testimonies are extended stories, which implies that the event took place over quite some time
01:34 < Kyuh> yeah, that works even better
01:34 <+TYV2000> ok so like
01:34 <+anony> were they at a party or something?
01:34 <+TYV2000> if we had an inbox
01:34 <+TYV2000> it'd be lke
01:34 < Kyuh> then if the audience makes the wrong questions that would be their fault
01:34 <+TYV2000> ==> where were you during the evnet
01:35 <@EyePencils> Exactly.
01:35 <@EyePencils> This actually makes things hell of a lot easier.
01:35 < Kyuh> then it would be easier to hide information or give misleading hints
01:35 <@EyePencils> So that they can jump on it themselves.
01:35 <@EyePencils> Oh God...
01:35 <@EyePencils> I just realized
01:35 <@EyePencils> we probably have to make like
01:35 <@EyePencils> a tumblr for this don't we.
01:35 <+TYV2000> I guess
01:36 < Kyuh> yeah..............
01:36 < bort> maybeeee
01:36 < bort> is this going to be like a fan adventure though
01:36 < Kyuh> but it's not based on anything though
01:37 <@EyePencils> So it's just really
01:37 <@EyePencils> an adventure.
01:37 < bort> no but i mean like in that format of mspa
01:37 <+TYV2000> maybe if we differentiate it enough from mspa we can do our own thing
01:38 < bort> I was just mentioning it beuase MSPFA is always an option
01:38 <@EyePencils> True...
01:38 < Kyuh> I think a tumblr would be better though, for the inbox
01:38 <@EyePencils> Hmm.
01:38 <@EyePencils> Hmmmm.
01:38 <@EyePencils> Hmmmmmm.
01:38 < bort> HMMMMMMMMM?
01:38 <+Jib> h
01:39 <@EyePencils> We could post results on MSPAF, and get suggestions through tumblr?
01:39 < bort> but yeah i think a tumblr might be best
01:39 <+TYV2000> like I said, though, if we can do something different, we'd still have that option of becoming self-sustaning
01:39 < bort> but being original is hard!
01:39 <+TYV2000> deal w/ it
01:39 <+TYV2000> nderd
01:39 <+TYV2000> nerd
01:39 <+TYV2000> saldfkj
01:39 < bort> :(
01:39 < Kyuh> yeah, we could start with tumblr and see how things go with it
01:39 <+TYV2000> ^
01:40 < bort> yeah im down with that idea
01:40 <@EyePencils> I'm down with that.
01:40 <@EyePencils> It would be easily manageable.
01:40 <+Jib> how do we communicate ideas and stuff
01:40 <+TYV2000> so who's going to manage the tumblr, or are we all going to?
01:40 < bort> . . .
01:40 <@EyePencils> Should I manage it?
01:40 <+TYV2000> also we need to find a time we can all sit down and have our next session/meeting thing
01:41 < Kyuh> yeah, and where, irc again?
01:41 <@EyePencils> I'm cool with any time after 11pm EST. And IRC would be rockin'.
01:41 < bort> i guess we cam come bak here
01:41 <+TYV2000> I wonder how a conference call in skype would work
01:41 <+TYV2000> it'd be simpler to communicate
01:41 <+Jib> I have a skype
01:41 <+TYV2000> instead of typing everything
01:41 <+TYV2000> does everyone have a microphone?
01:42 <@EyePencils> I have one, and I'm okay with whatever you guys are okay with.
01:42 <+Jib> yep
01:42 <+anony> no thanks
01:42 < bort> neigh
01:42 <+anony> I prefer irc
01:42 <+TYV2000> ok then
01:42 <+TYV2000> irc it is then i guess
01:42 < Kyuh> yeah I like irc more
01:42 <@EyePencils> Alrighty.
01:42 <@EyePencils> Gonna spin this by HSG.
01:42 <@EyePencils> Because why not.
01:42 < Kyuh> man I'm getting pumped up
01:43 < bort> i dont want to head back to hsg, That thread suuuuuck
01:43 <+TYV2000> well I mean we can keep going, unless  people need to leave soon
01:43 < Kyuh> what are you gonna say to the thread man?
01:43 <+Jib> right now thread is circle jerkin
01:43 < bort> all that trip sipping
01:43 <+TYV2000> at least we won't be interupting antyhing
01:43 < bort> euuugh
01:43 <+Jib> thanks lalonde and feferi
01:44 <+TYV2000> oh man 9 hours until meet the pyro
01:45 <@EyePencils> Our concept. A 70s murder mystery courtroom "whodunnit" ala Ace Attorney. With Wizards. A group of Wizards are brought in under the suspicion of killing some dude, because their magic residue was found on him. We start with one character and see his perspective, and then we can switch characters to a different perspective and interrogate them, and see if the
01:45 <@EyePencils> testimonies match up. YOU decide who fries!
01:45 <@EyePencils> Rough summation.
01:45 <+Jib> case closed
01:45 < bort> there we have it.
01:45 <+TYV2000> ok but I still think it shouldn't be residue on the body
01:45 <+Jib> bring in the dancing lobsters
01:45 < Kyuh> great!
01:45 <+TYV2000> just an odd wound
01:45 <+TYV2000> like a missing torso
01:46 <+TYV2000> or something
01:46 < bort> missing torso is an odd wound?
01:46 < bort> that sounds pretty fucking serious if you ask me!
01:46 < Kyuh> we could play around with the ghost part more
01:46 <+TYV2000> WELL YEAH IT'S SERIOUS  HE'S FUCKIN DEAD
01:46 < Kyuh> hehehe
01:46 < bort> dont yell at me i a m very sensitive.
01:47 < bort> a blo bloo bloo
01:47 <+TYV2000> quit cryin bitch nigga
01:48 < bort> meeting adjourned?
01:48 <+TYV2000> uh idk
01:48 < Kyuh> let's discuss the residue thing more
01:48 <+TYV2000> well yeah like I said, instead of residue I vote for a wound that is uniquely identified to a wizard
01:48 < Kyuh> like
01:48 < bort> is it residue from the blast or whatever it was that killed him? Or was it that aura thing?
01:48 < Kyuh> the wand stab
01:49 < Kyuh> it was aura thing, that way we bring all the wizards into play
01:49 <+anony> what is the crime scene
01:50 <+anony> were the wizards gathering for some reason
01:50 <+TYV2000> i vote a concert or something
01:50 <+anony> or did they just all happen by the same murder scene for independent reasons
01:50 <+TYV2000> where it's just that there are our wizards there
01:50 <+TYV2000> but they're they only wizards present, so they all get pulled in for questioning
01:50 <@EyePencils> Maybe it was at the club
01:51 <+TYV2000> yeah that works too
01:51 < Kyuh> what if woodstuck
01:51 <@EyePencils> Pffffffffffffhahahahaahahaha
01:51 <+anony> when was woodstock
01:51 < Kyuh> 69
01:51 <+anony> wizstock
01:52 < bort> it could be referenced
01:52 <+TYV2000> well woodstock is still part of that 70s vibe
01:52 < Kyuh> maybe woodstuck was really a secret wizard fest
01:52 <@EyePencils> >Behold robes
01:52 <+anony> wizstock > woodstuck
01:52 <@EyePencils> >You can't, as there are simply no robes to be beheld. Everyone is naked.
01:53 <@EyePencils> >Everyone.
01:53 <+anony> naked old men as far as the eye can see
01:53 <+TYV2000> except for their hats
01:53 <@EyePencils> D:
01:53 <+TYV2000> everyone has wizard hats
01:53 < Kyuh> woah
01:53 < bort> naked with old people
01:53 < bort> do wizards do drugs?
01:53 <+TYV2000> i dont know man
01:54 <+anony> what if a pejorative term for wizards was "whizzers"
01:54 <+TYV2000> wizards dont actually exist
01:54 < Kyuh> maybe magic IS drugs
01:54 < bort> fucking whizzers stealing all our jobs
01:54 <+TYV2000> oh jeez
01:54 <@EyePencils> Hahaha
01:54 <+TYV2000> this was just supposed to be a mystery
01:54 <+TYV2000> ;_;
01:54 <@EyePencils> Well I think
01:54 < Kyuh> comedy/action/mistery
01:54 <@EyePencils> we did a lot of things today.
01:54 <@EyePencils> Tonight.
01:55 < bort> i think we are just dickng around right now is all
01:55 < Kyuh> y-yeah...
01:55 <@EyePencils> I like that, though. Dicking around leads to
01:56 <@EyePencils> great fuck ups!
01:56 <@EyePencils> And great fuck ups can turn into fantastic adventures!
01:56 < bort> inspiration?
01:56 < Kyuh> HERE COMES INSPIRATION!
01:56 <@EyePencils> WOOOO WOOOOOOO
01:56 < bort> ahaha
01:56 <@EyePencils> c:
01:58 < Kyuh> soooo
01:58 <@EyePencils> 11ish tomorrow?
01:58 <@EyePencils> I mean, same time tomorrow***
01:58 < Kyuh> yeah sounds good
01:58 <+anony> I will idle in the channel
01:58 < bort> sure.
01:58 <+TYV2000> wow were we really talking for 3 hours
01:59 <+Jib> naw
01:59 < bort> that was fun
01:59 <@EyePencils> How fun. You guys are alright.
01:59 <+anony> only two
01:59 <+TYV2000> oh ok
01:59 <+TYV2000> yea that was pretty great
01:59 < Kyuh> yeah I had fun too
01:59 <+TYV2000> I'm also just going to sit in the channel
01:59 <@EyePencils> I have to exit out, and play some League.
01:59 <@EyePencils> Later guys, thanks for this opportunity
02:00 <@EyePencils> to do something we all enjoy c:
02:00 <+Jib> I'm out
02:00 <+TYV2000> eye
02:00 < Kyuh> nah man, thank you
02:00 <+TYV2000> what's you're in-game name
02:00 <+TYV2000> your
02:00 <@EyePencils> CarcerGrave.
02:00 < Kyuh> I'm out too, nights
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02:00 <+TYV2000> mk
02:00 <@EyePencils> Bam, I'm gone.
02:00 <+TYV2000> bye kyuh
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02:00 < bort> Likewise. Later.
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02:00 <+TYV2000> cya
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