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- The turkey eating practice of "Thanksgiving" is unethical.
- Monfd
- You'd think with all the science fiction available people would readily be able to empathize with non-humans.
- itea has left IRC (Quit: high temp)
- Sabeena
- There's even a musical.
- Sabeena
- (Have you seen Wicked?)
- Monfd
- 1. It was unethical for the machines to enslave the humans like that in The Matrix.
- Monfd
- 2. Why was it unethical? Well, humans are capable of so much more than just being a battery for the Machine Civilization.
- Monfd
- 3. Do you think the machines should have known that? Yeah, they're smart -- surely they could figure out they were mistreating the humans.
- Monfd
- 4. Well, Neo was ultimately successful, yes? Sure, but he had to go on a Hero's Journey in order to get the machines to understand a more complete truth than the reality in which they lived before his adventure.
- Monfd
- 5. So, by hero, you mean that Neo was acting out as the ideal human, then, yes? That's right.
- Monfd
- 6. So, the ideal being in that situation was a brave, smart one that showed the 'machines' the errors of their ways and moved their society to peacefully co-exist alongside the humans? Yeah, man.
- Monfd
- 7. Veganism.
- Sabeena
- kultur, $280/hr is not cheap in any city. You are being overcharged.
- 11:35 Monfd
- 8. Wait, are you saying that I'm like a machine living in the Machine Civilization when it comes to turkeys?
- Sabeena
- Is Monfd a bot?
- Monfd
- 9. But wait, there's more. As computation is universal, when you are an unkind machine civilization to turkeys, you are actually justifying their actions towards the humans in your beloved film The Matrix. However, when, at your intelligence level -- presumably lower than the sentient machines -- recognize that such systematic mistreat of one species by another is wrong, your reasoning is available to all smarter beings
- Monfd
- than you. You can acausally influence species you've never met through your choices.
- Sabeena
- Happy thanksgiving, kids.
- Monfd
- 10. Are you saying we can improve the quality of life across the universe just by being observed by alien civilizations?
- Monfd
- 11. No, Neo. I'm saying, when we're ready, we have to be observed to change the quality of life across the universe. #acausaldecisiontheory
- Monfd
- we won't have to*
- Monfd
- 12. *Jumps incredibly high into the sky while holding hands with the nearby turkey bird*
- Monfd
- 13. <carnist> Woah.
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