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Brexit: IN or OUT and why?
Stranger 2: lol
Stranger 1: IN!!!!!!!!
Stranger 2: Well, I'm Scottish so yeah, Remain
Stranger 1: why would you like to move out
Stranger 2: There's no real question here
Stranger 1: ?
Stranger 1: oh yeah ahah being scottish i see your point
Stranger 2: We get a shit-ton more positive stuff from the EU
Stranger 2: Than we do from London
Stranger 2: So we could either stay as we are now
Stranger 1: i dont see whats good for England moving out of EU
Stranger 2: Or give England ABSOLUTE power to repeal the Human Rights Act
Stranger 2: Which the Tories promised to do in their election manifesto
Stranger 2: The EU is the only thing stopping them
Stranger 1: i bet that if that would imply that english football clubs couldn't play in the Champions League, they would remain ahah
Stranger 2: Maybe, I dunno, I never gave a fuck about football
Stranger 2: All I know is this
Stranger 2: Scotland WILL vote to stay
Stranger 1: yeah, scotland for sure ahah
Stranger 2: We're polling at around 2/3rd to stay
Stranger 2: But if England votes to leave and we get dragged out
Stranger 1: WAR!!
Stranger 2: There'll be another independence referendum
Stranger 1: or that ahah
Stranger 2: Since in 2014 we were promised
Stranger 2: "Vote No if you want to stay in the EU"
Stranger 2: Look how that turned out
Stranger 1: wow man, you're the first guy i find here who is actually intelligent ahah
Stranger 2: I dunno I wouldn't go that far >_<
Stranger 2: I don't know much about anything
Stranger 2: I was just involved in politics here for a while
Stranger 1: just talked to a 20 year old londoner who didn't know whare Lisbon is ahha
Stranger 2: Campaigning and stuff
Stranger 1: oh ok, but you know whats going on
Stranger 2: Hah, well yeah, some people are just hugely ignorant
Stranger 2: I guess
Stranger 2: I try and keep an eye on things that affect me
Stranger 1: massively
Stranger 2: So I know about Scotland and I know a bit about Europe and how the EU works
Stranger 1: yeah, everyone should do that
Stranger 2: And then a little about Westminster too, I guess
Stranger 2: Yeah
Stranger 2: I mean the one good thing to come out of the referendum here
Stranger 2: We had an 85% turnout
Stranger 2: So pretty much everyone in Scotland cared one way or the other
Stranger 2: And most people bothered to think about it and look up some of the facts
Stranger 2: Which means that now, when we have elections, people know a bit more what they're actually voting for
Stranger 2: And how the system works
Stranger 1: yeah
Stranger 2: Even if I don't agree with what people believe
Stranger 2: I still want them to be involved, you know?
Stranger 1: of course, people should know what's up with their countru
Stranger 1: *country
Stranger 1: but i guess it's the same everywhere
Stranger 2: Otherwise you get people voting for folk like Nigel Farage or Donald Trump
Stranger 2: Because "Oh he's not like other politicians he just loves having a pint hurr durr"
Stranger 1: EXACTLY!! how is Trump even an option?
Stranger 2: Well, in the US, I mean
Stranger 2: His support comes from a similar place
Stranger 2: The "Oh I'm not a politician" position
Stranger 2: The same as Reagan, if you remember back that far
Stranger 1: no, i'm from 97...
Stranger 2: He was a movie star before he ran for office and the whole point of his campaign was the same
Stranger 1: dont remember, but know what happened ahah
Stranger 2: "I'm not a politician so I'll fix what's wrong with politics"
Stranger 1: say, how old are you, just so i know?
Stranger 2: 28
Stranger 2: So I barely remember Reagan, haha
Stranger 2: But just about
Stranger 1: yeah, barely ahah
Stranger 1: nevertheless, reagan was seen as a hero by many
Stranger 2: Oh, sure
Stranger 2: And Trump will be too if he's elected
Stranger 1: i just hope he doesn't...
Stranger 2: I mean, even Thatcher is still seen as a hero by some people
Stranger 1: Wars with North Korea and other countries will start...
Stranger 2: Iran is much more likely
Stranger 1: everything is likely with that man ahah
Stranger 2: But the last time America went to war with Iran...
Stranger 2: Well, it didn't go very well for either of them
Stranger 1: i know, but Trump doesnt care
Stranger 2: But worst of all for the civilians in the region
Stranger 2: The US famously managed to shoot down a passenger plane and killed 300 innocent people
Stranger 1: yeah, i imagine it must be horrible for those people
Stranger 2: As far as I know there was never any compensation at all
Stranger 1: and there will never be
Stranger 2: Probably not, no
Stranger 1: wow, you really know ur stuff ahah first time ever having a civilized conversation on Omegle ahah
Stranger 2: Ever since the revolution, America just hasn't been able to deal with Iran, AT ALL
Stranger 1: hence the Embargo
Stranger 2: America has trouble dealing with any country that values certain things over money
Stranger 2: In Iran's case, their religion and their political independence was always more important to them than money
Stranger 2: The American government could deal with Iraq, because money was always the most important thing to Saddam's government and to the new government
Stranger 2: But in Iran things aren't the same
Stranger 2: A lot of Americans sadly don't see what the differences are, though
Stranger 2: I feel like in order to declare war on a country you should at least have the majority of your citizens able to point at it on a map
Stranger 2: -sigh-
Stranger 1: lol if that would be the case, america would never go to war
Stranger 2: That would be interesting here too, though
Stranger 2: I mean how many people in England could point out Syria on a map?
Stranger 2: But we're at war with them all the same
Stranger 2: Most people here don't really know where it is
Stranger 1: yeah, but it's not the people who rule, only the elite
Stranger 2: For certain
Stranger 2: I mean London doesn't even try to hide that fact
Stranger 2: The House of Lords is an open admission
Stranger 2: As well as, obviously, having a monarchy at all
Stranger 1: tell me something, do scottish admire the queen just as much as the english people?
Stranger 2: It's a nation founded on the idea that some people are born "better" than others
Stranger 2: It's split
Stranger 2: Some definitely do, possibly even more than in England
Stranger 2: But others really, REALLY don't
Stranger 1: yeah, but monarchy has been out there for centuries
Stranger 2: In Scotland?
Stranger 2: Yeah, ours is older than England's, technically
Stranger 1: i think some countries wanted to continue with the tradition, thats all
Stranger 2: But it's a very religious thing, here
Stranger 2: Usually if you come from a Catholic background
Stranger 2: You won't like the monarchy
Stranger 2: If you come from a Protestant background
Stranger 1: because it's Cameron who decides most of the countries actions
Stranger 2: You will like the monarchy
Stranger 2: I mean, we had the Jacobite rebellions and the Acts of Proscription and hundreds of years of that
Stranger 2: So monarchy is a very divisive thing, here
Stranger 1: i know that in england there were some protestants and thats why they created a "different religion" (sort of)
Stranger 2: It's complicated
Stranger 2: But England basically managed to stamp out Catholics almost completely
Stranger 1: yeah, my knowlegde on that topic is not that great...
Stranger 2: Scotland was always about 1/3 Catholic to 2/3 Protestant
Stranger 2: So we've always had tension between the two
Stranger 2: And being so close to Northern Ireland doesn't help
Stranger 2: A lot of the tensions and violence from there spill over to here
Stranger 2: Particularly in Glasgow
Stranger 1: what do you mean? religiously
Stranger 1: ?
Stranger 2: Well, you know about the IRA and the UVF and all of that?
Stranger 2: The political and religious terrorism in the north of Ireland?
Stranger 1: IRA yes, UVF no...
Stranger 2: Ulster Volunteer Force
Stranger 2: They were the pro-British terrorists
Stranger 2: Or, the biggest group
Stranger 2: There was also the UDA, the UFF, the Red Hand Commandos, etc. etc.
Stranger 2: Protestant terrorism
Stranger 1: oh, so basically it was IRA against UVF
Stranger 1: right?
Stranger 2: Not quite
Stranger 2: It was IRA against the British government
Stranger 2: So the police and the army
Stranger 1: yes, but UVF was for the british government
Stranger 2: The UVF supported the police and the army
Stranger 1: or no?
Stranger 2: Kind of
Stranger 1: ah yes
Stranger 2: I mean in theory the government was supposed to stop them
Stranger 2: Because they killed people and that's illegal
Stranger 2: But yeah, in practice
Stranger 2: They just allowed them to do what they liked
Stranger 1: so did the IRA
Stranger 2: Of course
Stranger 2: But the IRA killed British soldiers
Stranger 2: So the British army got mad about it
Stranger 2: The UVF killed Catholic civilians
Stranger 1: aah, did not catch that
Stranger 2: So the British army didn't care as much about that, apparently
Stranger 2: The IRA mainly targetted soldiers and policemen
Stranger 2: Protestant attacks were usually more indiscriminate
Stranger 1: ok get it
Stranger 1: *got it
Stranger 2: The aim was to cause instability to get more troops sent to Ireland
Stranger 2: So it didn't really matter who the target was
Stranger 2: I dunno it's difficult
Stranger 2: Because so many people are so biased about all of it
Stranger 2: It's hard to get a clear picture
Stranger 2: But anyway, from both sides
Stranger 2: When people were wanted by the police or needed to lie low or whatever
Stranger 1: biased? sorry, my english is not that good...
Stranger 2: UVF or IRA or any of the others
Stranger 2: They would come to Scotland to hide
Stranger 2: And spread their messages in Glasgow
Stranger 2: Which already has a Catholic - Protestant divide
Stranger 2: So that's what I mean by it spilling over here
Stranger 1: yeah, i got it
Stranger 2: "Biased" is a hard word to explain x__x
Stranger 2: Like, giving one side more favour than the other
Stranger 1: no, i already looked it up ahah
Stranger 2: Oh right, ha
Stranger 1: preferring one person, thing, or idea to another in a way that is unfair
Stranger 2: Yeah
Stranger 1: wow, but do you remember those things?
Stranger 2: Some of it, yeah
Stranger 2: I mean I remember the peace treaty in '97
Stranger 1: yeah, ur a bit older than me ahha
Stranger 2: I've got family over there so it was something that affected us deeply
Stranger 2: People in my family were killed by all of this, you know?
Stranger 1: i would like to be older just to have seen some things like that to gain more life experience
Stranger 1: oh, my condolences
Stranger 2: Well hey, in a few years you will be, you know?
Stranger 1: like the falling of the berlin wall and so on
Stranger 2: And you'll see things that I never will, because I'll die first
Stranger 2: Mhmm, I mean, I remember that too
Stranger 2: But I didn't really understand at the time
Stranger 1: yeah, you must have been 4 or so
Stranger 2: Haha yeah
Stranger 2: I mean I remember it being on TV
Stranger 2: Same with the fall of the Soviet Union
Stranger 1: 9/11 i remember from tv too, but didn't understood either
Stranger 2: Yeah, I mean I was old enough to know by then
Stranger 2: I think I understood by about the time of the wars in Yugoslavia
Stranger 2: I remember Kosovo and I understood that by then
Stranger 1: oh yeah, thats a topic i haven't really dug in yet, must be interesting
Stranger 1: i love history
Stranger 2: More just depressing
Stranger 2: There were no good guys
Stranger 1: oh ok, well i'll find out
Stranger 2: The whole thing was awful and none of it needed to happen at all
Stranger 2: If people could just treat each other as humans
Stranger 2: -sigh0
Stranger 2: *-sigh-
Stranger 1: that will never be possible
Stranger 2: Sadly, probably not
Stranger 2: Anyway
Stranger 2: I gotta go try and get some food
Stranger 2: Have a good one
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