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10:04:56 PM <~Wildbow> Twormed
10:05:21 PM <m1el> w00t
10:06:00 PM <Peng> \i/
10:06:04 PM <Peng> \o/ too
10:06:07 PM <Peng> my poor head
10:10:05 PM <Brut> Hmm, Capricorn
10:10:07 PM <~Wildbow> It's a bit of a 'my poor head' chapter
10:10:11 PM <Brut> I remember that name from a campaign
10:10:21 PM <Brut> Not the same I assume
10:10:21 PM <~Wildbow> Oh?
10:10:25 PM <~Wildbow> I think I discouraged it's use
10:10:30 PM <~Wildbow> Since I used it in snippetst and had plans for itt
10:10:31 PM <~Wildbow> But oh well
10:10:41 PM <~Wildbow> Also, my 't' keeps double-tapping.  Arg.
10:10:53 PM <Brut> Yeah, some Ward with a hypnosis state fighting proficiency I think
10:10:57 PM <Peng> Is there any name in the dictionary that *isn't* one of the X-Men or in a campaign by now?
10:11:06 PM <Brut> Went into a state where all she did was fight extremely well
10:11:54 PM <Brut> Also Moonsong's name is dope
10:12:00 PM <abyssonym> moonsong is one of the elfquest elves isn't it
10:12:33 PM <Peng> https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=moonsong oh god
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10:18:49 PM <Aliphant> Why does Moonsong use they for Furcate in the post but "he" in the chat?
10:22:23 PM <~Wildbow> Yes
10:23:04 PM <Brut> Is this a prejudice on Moonsong's part?
10:23:12 PM <Brut> Might be jumping though
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10:23:34 PM <Ereus> i was wonderign why there was no talking, bad link bow
10:23:47 PM <Ereus> but so I recall reach in worm 1 but did we ever see them?
10:24:12 PM <Aliphant> Brut: I mean Moonsong seems like a bit of a dick. Could just as easily be that Furcate's gender wasn't known to the general public. Haven't read through fully yet, not jumping to conclusions
10:24:25 PM <Ereus> seems 2 of them had a bad falling out and wanna kill eachother
10:24:30 PM <Aliphant> Also I'm embarassed to say it took me a solid minute to catch on that someone was hiring a hitman
10:24:34 PM <Ereus> moonsong according to cap was a bit of a cunt
10:25:07 PM <Ereus> yeah I was wondering why the were talknig bout damaging memoribilia
10:25:21 PM <Brut> The fact that Cap still called Furcate "they" in private convo makes me think it wasn't just public Ali
10:25:37 PM <Ereus> whats this bout furcate?
10:25:54 PM <Ereus> It seemed there were veiled insults in the messege, were they like transgender?
10:25:54 PM <Aliphant> Brut: ...hm, yeah.
10:26:08 PM <Aliphant> I feel like Furcate could well be NB and Moonsong was intentionally being a dick to them
10:26:23 PM <Ereus> NB?
10:26:28 PM <Brut> non binary
10:26:31 PM <Ereus> ah
10:26:43 PM <Ereus> i didnt catch that part, were was it in the interliude?
10:26:48 PM <Aliphant> Usually non binary individuals use "they" pronouns, Ere
10:27:14 PM <Ereus> ah
10:30:18 PM <Lexicon> The chatlogs gave me a kinda Homestuck vibe, in a good way
10:30:37 PM <Lexicon> Especially discovering how much they hate each others guts
10:30:44 PM <Brut> Bow loves Homestuck Runner
10:31:23 PM <Lexicon> He was offended at the suggestion during Cards against Parahumanity
10:31:39 PM <Brut> I know, I submitted it lol
10:33:13 PM <Aliphant> Brut: Melody/foxtail brought up a good point in discord
10:33:14 PM <Aliphant> [A18 12:13:12] Cap: you had your notions of how everyone was supposed to behave
10:33:14 PM <Aliphant> [A18 12:13:36] Cap: how everyone was supposed to be
10:33:14 PM <Aliphant> [A18 12:13:45] Cap: you know what they call people who come to judgment about people before they have the facts?
10:33:14 PM <Aliphant> [A18 12:14:19] Cap: the label applies, moonsong
10:33:25 PM <Aliphant> This seems to implies that Cap viewed Moonsong as a bigot, which lends credence to the prejudice idea
10:34:02 PM <Brut> Yeah, seems like Moon is a pretty rude and unempathetic person
10:34:12 PM <Aliphant> Puts on a damn good front though
10:36:35 PM <Lexicon> I'm curious about the apparent hitman dealing. I thought Cap might have been putting a hit on Moonsong, but then he just admitted it, and Moonsong didn't seem bothered at all?
10:38:09 PM <m1el> why would you warn your target about a hitman? *shrug*
10:38:40 PM <Aliphant> Lexicon: The hitman's reaction to Cap's picture implies that something shady is up.
10:38:58 PM <Aliphant> Current theory in Discord is that Cap's power comes with a significant drawback or horrible side effect, and they're calling the hit on themselves.
10:39:55 PM <Aliphant> tbf, in the second chat Moonsong isn't warned. Cap just makes vague references to a professional.
10:40:06 PM <Lexicon> Huh, wouldn't have thought of that
10:40:11 PM <abyssonym> she could be thinking "psychiatric professional"
10:40:36 PM <abyssonym> she's still acting weird though, are they pretending like the earlier conversation didn't happen?
10:40:37 PM <Ereus> oh god
10:40:46 PM <Ereus> imagine if contessa is a hitman now
10:41:42 PM <Aliphant> doubt
10:41:56 PM <abyssonym> people don't really say you "hire" a psychiatrist though do they
10:42:06 PM <Lexicon> I'd find that less scary than whatever she's doing with teacher
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10:45:13 PM <abyssonym> and she starts calling him "boo" for some reason
10:46:01 PM <Aliphant> Loved the chapter and the characters, bow. :)
10:50:53 PM <ColdGold> I figured he called the hit on himself or something similar
10:51:05 PM <abyssonym> "Figurehead is alive but you all should know his issues with being controlled."
10:51:13 PM <abyssonym> then Cap takes a hit out on himself... hmmmmmm...
10:51:16 PM <ColdGold> Moonsong says something about paying him a visit but she doesn't need to because he's hired a professional
10:51:42 PM <ColdGold> And there was the context of her thinking about killing him to consider
10:51:47 PM <Brut> Did Taylor mindfuck people to suicide
10:51:54 PM <Brut> Unintentionally
10:52:32 PM <~Wildbow> Thanks Hieraliphant
10:53:04 PM <Peng> Brut: Probably?
10:53:12 PM <Thepicheese> She did cause extreme amounts of stress
10:53:25 PM <Peng> As did things outside of her control
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10:54:28 PM <Brut> Jesus Christ I just realized I get to discuss new Worm now
10:54:46 PM <Diamondace> Taylor did literally give someone a heart attack from the stress of being mindcontrolled during GM
10:54:51 PM <Thepicheese> It was for the greater (greatest?) good, but she probably caused a lot of psychological problems
10:55:29 PM <Peng> "So, why are you seeki --" "Khepri and Scion"
10:55:36 PM <Aliphant> It was a stroke, not a heart attack, Dace
10:55:59 PM <Diamondace> my bad
10:56:13 PM <Aliphant> Peng: I feel like you just walk into a psychiatrist office and ask for help with suicidal thoughts, and it's going to be understood that, well, the apocalypse happened not too long ago, there's a lot of people like that.
10:57:46 PM <Peng> Yeah, the introductory conversation can be, uh, pretty short
11:00:01 PM <Thepicheese> Is Khepri pronounced with the weird throat sound or is it regular K-hepri
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11:00:22 PM <Tiktalik> link?
11:00:42 PM <abyssonym> https://parahumans.wordpress.com/2017/10/24/glow-worm-p-2/
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11:03:02 PM <Aliphant> Brut: comb_jelly and Lunatic Lich suggest Furcate could be cloner, hivemind, split personality or other mental or physical state, caused by power or otherwise, hinted at by cape name, that would make pronouns of both "them" and "him" equally applicable
11:03:10 PM <Aliphant> Furcate would be them as a whole, him as a single dying fragment
11:03:35 PM <Brut> That makes sense as well
11:03:37 PM <abyssonym> my theory is that moonsong has some kind of mind control powers and she's not super reluctant to use them
11:03:38 PM <Aliphant> Thepicheese: I pronounce it "cap-pree"
11:03:45 PM <Aliphant> Moonsong DID has been brought up
11:03:50 PM <Brut> Name follows that theme too
11:03:55 PM <Aliphant> yep
11:04:00 PM <abyssonym> and that's why they all know that figurehead doesn't respond well to being controlled
11:05:06 PM <abyssonym> then the pieces kind of fall into place in the second and third conversations if you figure that she's controlling Cap
11:06:37 PM <Ereus> what do you mean?
11:06:40 PM <Ereus> she's mind controlling cap?
11:06:51 PM <Ereus> than who is the hit forr
11:07:01 PM <Diamondace> Cap
11:07:11 PM <abyssonym> yeah, she'd've made him take the hit out on himself
11:07:13 PM <Diamondace> that's why the hitman reacted weird
11:07:44 PM <Peng> Why would the hitman react oddly, though? It seems like the client is anonymous.
11:08:04 PM <abyssonym> nah he knew what cap looked like
11:08:20 PM <abyssonym>  X29V5n: you’re the latino kid?
11:08:20 PM <Diamondace> ^
11:08:24 PM <Peng> Oh
11:08:48 PM <Peng> I read that as if it might be a code phrase rather than like literally true
11:08:59 PM <Peng> My thoughts aren't all consistent :P
11:09:06 PM <abyssonym> well cap references his abuela earlier
11:09:12 PM <abyssonym> so the latino part is probably accurate
11:09:16 PM <Forricide> hey guys, not sure if you noticed, but there's a new Glow Worm chapter! ;)
11:09:17 PM <abyssonym> not earlier, later
11:09:24 PM <Peng> abyssonym: Yes, unless it's a joke
11:09:30 PM <abyssonym> fair enough
11:09:44 PM <Peng> I'm inclined to agree with you, though
11:11:03 PM <~Wildbow> [Audiobook Guy] Rein: HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO PRONOUNCE ALL THAT
11:11:08 PM <~Wildbow> XD
11:12:03 PM <Peng> D:
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11:19:30 PM <Forricide> All right, I think you guys are on the wrong track. Here's my theory. What do hitmen normally kill? People. Would you be surprised if you had to kill, say, a dog? Yeah? Keep that in mind
11:19:41 PM <Forricide> So furcate. what does that name remind you of? cloning? pshawww
11:19:46 PM <Forricide> Fur... cate... furry... cat
11:20:16 PM <~Wildbow> Yes.  Clearly an elaborate cat-murder plot
11:20:17 PM <Diamondace> Hate to burst your bubble but Furcate is already dead
11:20:23 PM <Thepicheese> Let's dig a little deeper
11:20:23 PM <Forricide> Furcate is a feline cape, clearly. And the entire argument between Moonsong and Capricorn was just code where they agreed on hiring a hitman for Furcate
11:20:24 PM <m1el> 'Bow, the hostname on the hidden chat moderately bothers me.
11:20:26 PM <~Wildbow> Yes.  Clearly an elaborate zombie cat-murder plot
11:20:30 PM <Thepicheese> What do cats kill?
11:20:31 PM <m1el> speaking of unpronouncable names
11:20:32 PM <Thepicheese> Mice
11:20:35 PM <Forricide> now here's the thing - remember when I told you there's no way he's a cloner? it's a self cloning cat
11:20:41 PM <Forricide> that's why he's both alive and dead
11:20:47 PM <Thepicheese> Rats are basically mice, and what have rats done in history?
11:20:51 PM <Thepicheese> Spread the plague
11:21:07 PM <Thepicheese> Hitman is gonna spread the black death across various Earths
11:21:20 PM <Forricide> Next on Forricide Makes The Obvious More Obvious: What do moonsong and moonshine have in common, and why is it their astrological sign? Stay tuned!
11:21:31 PM <Brut> Yeah but the fleas were the ones with the plague
11:21:36 PM <Diamondace> Parahumans 2 is secretly Twig 2, the crossover we've all been waiting for
11:21:38 PM <Brut> They just rode the rats
11:22:01 PM <Forricide> that hitman will be really pulling in the cash
11:22:29 PM <Thepicheese> That's just what the rats want you to think
11:22:41 PM <Forricide> in reality, the rats rode the fleas
11:22:42 PM <abyssonym> moonshine has an astrological sign?
11:22:47 PM <Forricide> that's how they flew over the ocean
11:22:56 PM <Forricide> similar to taylor flying on her bug
11:23:16 PM <Thepicheese> Skitter was actually just a clone of Chitter the whole time
11:23:53 PM <Diamondace> I don't think you're going far enough in your theory, Moonsong and Capricorn are clearly aspects/clones of the original Furcate who is Bitch's long lost twin
11:24:03 PM <Forricide> abyssonym, moonshine was first created in a bathtub in a Roman monk's cellar on January 17th, 1526
11:24:10 PM <Forricide> You'll note that January 17th is the month of Capricorn
11:24:44 PM <saintsant> Damn that was good.
11:24:48 PM <Forricide> and 17 is the legal age of drinking in alberta, where Moonsong is from, as evidenced by the number of o's in their name
11:25:36 PM <saintsant> Not showing up in the ToC, though.
11:25:50 PM <Brut> No it isn't, Forr
11:25:53 PM <Brut> It's 18
11:26:03 PM <Brut> RUINED
11:26:17 PM <Forricide> it was 17 in the 1900's
11:26:21 PM <Forricide> when moonshine was born
11:26:22 PM <Forricide> um
11:26:24 PM <Forricide> moonsunder?
11:26:27 PM <Forricide> moonswim?
11:26:31 PM <Forricide> moonsong! right
11:26:52 PM <Forricide> see, Brut, here's the thing
11:26:54 PM <Diamondace> huh I thought the drinking age in Alberta was 19 like in Ontario
11:26:56 PM <Forricide> 18 is 17+1
11:26:56 PM <Diamondace> TIL
11:27:03 PM <Forricide> yeah Albertans are crazy
11:27:05 PM <Forricide> sorry did I say that
11:27:19 PM <Forricide> you're note that Edmonton is the major city in Alberta
11:27:31 PM <Forricide> remember what I was saying earlier about the number of o's in moonsong's name? there are 3
11:27:35 PM <Forricide> how many o's in Edmonton? 2
11:27:38 PM <Forricide> 2 + 1 = 3
11:27:42 PM <Forricide> 17 + 1 = 18
11:27:44 PM <Brut> Nah Diamondace it's 18 in Alberta, Quebec and Manitoba
11:27:51 PM <Thepicheese> wait a minute
11:27:52 PM <Forricide> it just carries the 1, brut, it just carries the 1
11:27:53 PM <Thepicheese> rewind
11:28:00 PM <Thepicheese> 3 o's in moonsong's name
11:28:04 PM <Forricide> 3...
11:28:06 PM <Thepicheese> 3 sides to a triangle
11:28:19 PM <Thepicheese> Furcate is illuminati confirmed
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11:28:35 PM <Forricide> ok, unrelated joke for you guys, why does paper always lie to you?
11:28:41 PM <Diamondace> 3 sides to a triangle
11:28:48 PM <Diamondace> three characters in this chapter
11:28:55 PM <Forricide> because paper is two-faced ha ha okay back to crackpot theories I mean VERY SERIOUS theorizing
11:29:00 PM <Diamondace> the connections were staring us in the face
11:29:00 PM <saintsant> People lie, the paper is an accessory after the fact.
11:29:15 PM <Forricide> men lie, women lie, stats don't lie
11:29:22 PM <~Wildbow> Guys
11:29:25 PM <~Wildbow> Dial it back, eh?
11:29:28 PM <~Wildbow> You're getting a touch silly.
11:29:34 PM <Diamondace> only a touch?
11:31:37 PM <Diamondace> Glizglam is only had like three lines but their reaction when they found out about this assassination plot going on between Moonsong and Capricorn is going to be great I feel it
11:31:44 PM <Diamondace> find*
11:33:11 PM <Forricide> Do we know they're related?
11:34:12 PM <Forricide> I figure I should mention this comment on the chapter. I actually really like the idea. "Sounds like suicide via hitman? Maybe a Brute whose powers get in the way." Could be Alabaster-esque and his power requires his own deaths somehow
11:34:22 PM <Forricide> I'll admit that's fairly 'out there' though
11:37:04 PM <saintsant> PM@TS is the civilian account of a cape, and Capricorn is an astrological sign, but I feel like that's kind of tenuous. Typing styles are different, too.
11:38:02 PM <Diamondace> I don't think they're the same person, just that they were all on the same team
11:39:22 PM <Diamondace> it just makes sense to me from a narrative standpoint these two PoVs are related somehow and them being on the same team is the most obvious connection to me
11:39:27 PM <Forricide> I suppose it's possible, but are there any actual hints towards that? Or just narrative
11:40:14 PM <Diamondace> Nothing substantial I think
11:41:06 PM <Diamondace> The Reach having their own subforum and chat on PHO makes me think they're somewhat offical
11:41:17 PM <Diamondace> and PM@TS has a dual account
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11:44:32 PM <Brut> Just wait for Cyrix to join
11:44:41 PM <Brut> She loves Worm nerding
11:45:39 PM <Shemetz> Moonsong wrote "nods" and "How is your brother?", both on 11:09:01
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11:45:45 PM <Shemetz> s/he writes real fast!
11:46:50 PM <abyssonym> could just be connection issues, both messages delivered at the same time
11:47:29 PM <~Wildbow> 'Reach sounds like a Travelers-level clusterfuck of baggage.' - Reddit thread
11:48:11 PM <abyssonym> the travelers were at least mostly civil to each other
11:52:05 PM <Peng> Yeah, attempted murder was rare with them
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12:03:47 AM <Diamondace> Trickster survived GM, right?
12:04:15 AM <Diamondace> I can see his team going ballistic on him if they ever run into him
12:05:18 AM <Lexicon> I think he died
12:06:36 AM <Lexicon> Yep, died at the same time as Othala and Ash Beast
12:06:47 AM <Wellwick> That was a sad chapter
12:07:29 AM <Shemetz> could the professional be a psychiatrist?
12:07:31 AM <ktgrey> RIP ash beast
12:07:52 AM <Wellwick> Ten hours from the time MoonSong suggested to when Capricorn came back with 'coverage'
12:08:08 AM <Wellwick> Like he already had thought about it
12:08:08 AM <Shemetz> I know it doesn't make much sense but I love the idea of shady illegal deals to get good professional mental help
12:08:58 AM <Wellwick> I'm not sure how many ways you can interpret "X29V5n: You’re sure?  There’s something deeply wrong with this."
12:09:35 AM <Shemetz> maybe he's buying professional help for....moonsong? instead of himself?
12:09:54 AM <Forricide> I mean, it's possible he's taking out a hit on a very well-known or well-liked person
12:10:31 AM <saintsant> I interpreted that as some kind of Master/Stranger power tied to Moonsong's appearance, although it might be a bit of a (heh) reach.
12:10:41 AM <~Wildbow> Good one, saint
12:11:20 AM <saintsant> I try. This was really enjoyable, for the record. Many different interpretations, lots of juicy drama to speculate about.
12:12:56 AM <~Wildbow> Yeah.  More of a shift into 'teaser' mode for this oone
12:12:59 AM <~Wildbow> *one
12:13:12 AM <Diamondace> "Also, I feel many people may have missed something significant about the first chat between Moonsong and Capricorn. It lasted from 11:04 AM to 12:52 PM.  Lunchtime." - Psycho  Gecko comment
12:13:16 AM <Diamondace> i can't believe i didn't notice that
12:14:04 AM <Forricide> Psycho Gecko, that guy is a genius
12:14:37 AM <Wellwick> 2 hours is too long for lunch
12:14:47 AM <Wellwick> :P
12:14:55 AM <Forricide> this is true. for some reason I was subtracting the two and getting 1h
12:15:33 AM <Wellwick> (That was just me referencing W1)
12:15:47 AM <Forricide> Ah, I see. however it's still relevant
12:15:58 AM <Forricide> or... relevant to declare something else irrelevant
12:22:21 AM <abyssonym> "2 hours is too long for lunch" that joke was way 2meta4me
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12:25:18 AM <Diamondace> Point Me @ The Sky = Boundless??
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12:39:32 AM <~Wildbow> Hi Hak
12:40:25 AM <Hakurei06> hei
12:40:34 AM <VereorNox> Heya Hakurei06, logn time no see
12:40:42 AM <VereorNox> God morning, Wildbass
12:40:54 AM <Hakurei06> I should lurk less
12:42:06 AM <Hakurei06> hmm... now that I think about it, I can probably disable autologin for # twig
12:42:24 AM <Hakurei06> *autojoin
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1:09:12 AM <Tadpole> Ooooh that got interesting
1:10:15 AM <Tadpole> Many people in the comments are saying that Cap ordered a hit on himself. I can see how it's coded language for a hit but not what would make it a suicidal hit?
1:10:42 AM <Forricide> it's where the hitman says 'are you sure? there's something wrong about this'
1:10:59 AM <Forricide> as far as I know at least
1:11:02 AM <Tadpole> I don't know, I feel like that could be interpreted in a lot of ways.
1:11:09 AM <Forricide> it's a somewhat tenuous connection, I agree
1:11:18 AM <Wellwick> And he confirms "it's" covered later too
1:11:27 AM <Tadpole> Wildboo said these were meant to be “teaser” chapters which I assume means we get more clarity later.
1:11:32 AM <Wellwick> But yeah, lots of interpretations
1:11:40 AM <Wellwick> Especially with powers in play
1:11:44 AM <Forricide> I'm of the mind it's a hit on some random person that is ghandi-like, but I've been wrong once or twice before
1:12:07 AM <Diamondace> People seem to think Moon mastered/strangered Cap
1:12:17 AM <Diamondace> and that's why they're so friendly in that last convo
1:12:54 AM <Tadpole> There's probably some level of Master-ing involved, what with their teammate who's got issues with being controlled.
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1:14:26 AM <Diamondace> Yeah, that too. Moonsong said she was thinking she should have killed him + hitman reaction = Cap putting a hit on himself
1:15:21 AM <Wellwick> Mmm mastering certainly a possibility
1:16:43 AM <Tadpole> Cap opens the last convo with the line “hi moo – wish I knew how you did that.” That seems pretty significant. Did Moonshine master Capricorn into taking out a contract against themselves?
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1:18:47 AM <Peng> I could interpret that as Cap sarcastically saying that they wish they knew how Moo could fake a cheerful greeting.
1:20:33 AM <Wellwick> Mmm, potentially
1:20:44 AM <Tadpole> Or how the preceding chat could not be loaded, which keeps Tribute in the dark.
1:20:51 AM <Tadpole> ~~ so many mysteries ~~
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1:21:38 AM <Peng> Mm
1:21:39 AM <Wellwick> Also could be the case that "Don't stress." is a mastering instruction?
1:21:42 AM <Tadpole> “just had a very surreal experience talking to a certain kind of professional.” This being so surreal could also point to being mastered.
1:21:52 AM <Peng> Wellwick: Oh shit, you're right, that could be it
1:22:02 AM <Tadpole> Perhaps.
1:22:03 AM <Diamondace> I thought the archive only didn't load for Cap, it might have loaded for Tribute
1:22:21 AM <Diamondace> but its' well-known that Cap and Moon hated each other, so it wouldn't be a surprise to Tribute
1:22:26 AM <Tadpole> Yeah it's probably just flaky infrastructure
1:22:29 AM <Wellwick> I'm tempted to look through the whole thing and see if there are other points where Moon says an instruction which results in certain actions
1:22:46 AM <Wellwick> But seems a stretch
1:22:50 AM <Tadpole> Connecting to “pChat.ParahumansOnline.TeamReach(6667)” (Attempt 80)
1:23:03 AM <Peng> W is silently watching us speculate
1:23:07 AM <Wellwick> I also like that detail of how many failed attempts there are :P
1:23:17 AM <Wellwick> First one was Attempt 90
1:23:19 AM <Diamondace> Tribute did react with a "Fuck me" when Cap joined
1:23:22 AM <Wellwick> Bless the Internet
1:23:38 AM <Tadpole> Diamondace: perhaps that's a master instruction!
1:24:02 AM <Wellwick> Haha, another canary
1:24:03 AM <Tadpole> Wildbae might have gone to bed? Something something taking it easier without taking a vacation.
1:24:16 AM <Diamondace> nope he's awake
1:24:27 AM <~Wildbow> Awake
1:24:31 AM <Tadpole> Hi!
1:24:39 AM <Ereus> hi bowie
1:24:47 AM <Peng> Wellwick: Another Canary? Maybe it's *the* Canary
1:24:55 AM <Peng> (Is she alive?)
1:25:21 AM <Wellwick> Think it's unlikely, she would have to have been a part of Reach prior to GM cause of the GM references for the group members
1:25:33 AM <Wellwick> And we know she was a Rogue before the birdcage
1:26:04 AM <Yewnyx> Think it'd be a good idea to edit the topic to include the link? i.e. "Latest Glow-Worm Chapter: https://parahumans.wordpress.com/2017/10/24/glow-worm-p-2/"
1:26:09 AM <Yewnyx> the channel topic that is
1:26:16 AM <Peng> Wellwick: Good point
1:26:28 AM <Wellwick> Unless it's obfuscating and they formed Reach after GM and then split, but less likely again
1:26:45 AM <VereorNox> Morning Yewnyx o/
1:26:48 AM <Peng> Yewnyx: I think so, but at this point *i* already know where it is, so it doesn't directly affect me anymore
1:27:22 AM <Peng> Yewnyx: Could also link https://parahumans.wordpress.com/category/stories-pre-worm-2/
1:27:30 AM <Peng> so it doesn't have to be updated
1:27:36 AM <Peng> (as much)
1:28:05 AM <Wellwick> I'm going back to that Travellers comparison, anyone think maybe they are a group that got trapped in a Simurgh quarantine? Could explain the "should have killed you rather than let you leave"
1:28:40 AM <Tadpole> That could mean so many things.
1:30:01 AM <Wellwick> Honestly think it's more likely internal group dynamic/history than external factors, but speculation can be fun
1:30:57 AM <Diamondace> the Reach were a sponsored team so I don't think they were in a Simurgh quarantine
1:33:27 AM mode: @Yewnyx (halfopped, opped)
1:33:32 AM <m1el> Connecting to “4’&{N8\<v%369ZAM” // Resolving Host Name <-- there's no protocol in which this is a valid hostname. also quotes in IRC logs should be ASCII quotes (")
1:33:35 AM <m1el> REEEE
1:33:44 AM @Yewnyx set the topic: Latest Glow-Worm Chapter: https://parahumans.wordpress.com/2017/10/24/glow-worm-p-2/
1:33:51 AM mode: Yewnyx (de-halfopped, de-opped)
1:34:06 AM <Tadpole> m1el: It's a darknet-ish protocol, maybe invented from scratch
1:34:18 AM <m1el> even so
1:34:22 AM <Tadpole> Can't very well use TOR with the internet in as sorry a state as it is
1:34:40 AM <VereorNox> Wow Yew just taking over a channel
1:34:52 AM <VereorNox> Admin abuseee
1:35:10 AM <Tadpole> Sysadmin 2 stronk
1:35:28 AM — Yewnyx hovers finger over kick button :P
1:36:20 AM <Yewnyx> i mean, yeah, a quote in the host is like "the creator of this system hates you", but a layperson can't really distinguish hex from base64 so whatevs
1:36:46 AM <Tadpole> If Yewnyx can hover his finger rather than his cursor, his keyboard must have a key dedicated to kicking people. Now that's dedication.
1:36:46 AM <Yewnyx> host, or some random addressing system
1:37:12 AM <Roarian|AI> nah Tadpole, proper dedication would be wiring up a boot and a hammer
1:37:20 AM <Roarian|AI> for use when necessary
1:37:27 AM <Yewnyx> the kick button is Enter
1:37:30 AM <Yewnyx> let's keep this on-topic for  glow-worm
1:38:07 AM <Roarian|AI> i presume it's just the name for these interquel things?
1:38:08 AM <Tadpole> m1el: I think whatever software Wildbro uses to write auto-converts the quotes for him.
1:38:19 AM <Tadpole> Roarian|AI: Yes, the full story will have a different name.
1:38:23 AM <m1el> that sofware is called wordpress
1:38:24 AM <Roarian|AI> I'm not sure i can handle 'bow branching out into double four-letter word titles
1:38:26 AM <Tadpole> Not Glow and not Glow-Worm.
1:39:22 AM <Tadpole> I desperately hope he doesn't write directly into the wordpress input field.
1:41:41 AM <Yewnyx> why so desperate?
1:41:51 AM <Yewnyx> the best tool is the one what works
1:41:57 AM <Wellwick> I think he mentioned making a mistake doing that and losing everything when the page crashed once?
1:43:36 AM <Diamondace> doesn't wordpress auto-save?
1:44:33 AM <Wellwick> I think he recovered it, cant remember
1:45:25 AM <Diamondace> formatting can be a bitch on wordpress so I understand if he writes directly into the input f ield
1:45:53 AM <~Wildbow> Stuff doesn't translate well, no
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1:47:15 AM <Roarian|AI> i never really get why copying stuff to different forums and whatnot somehow really changes the formatting
1:47:31 AM <Roarian|AI> do they all just have random different standards?
1:48:33 AM <m1el> long story short, yes
1:49:22 AM <m1el> html formatting is crazy wildly different between platforms, has no standardization at all, and extremely vulnerable
1:50:00 AM Wildbow → ~Wildsnore
1:50:29 AM <Diamondace> I personally use an online converter bc I'm lazy
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1:51:43 AM <Yewnyx> html isn't particularly vulnerable
1:51:46 AM <Cyrix> Finished!
1:51:48 AM <Yewnyx> though bbcode parsers tend to be
1:51:50 AM <Cyrix> That was sad.
1:51:54 AM <Yewnyx> but that's a #programming thing
1:52:15 AM <Cyrix> Though I love to see the two sides of the after gold morning thing we got to experience
1:52:36 AM <Cyrix> how capes are affected this chapter
1:52:46 AM <Cyrix> and how the 'normal' people are affected
1:53:03 AM <Cyrix> Maybe next chapter will give us a look into the new PRT-like organisation?
1:53:15 AM <Cyrix> or it will switch to people from another earth
1:53:24 AM <Cyrix> and we got to see what they think about all the refuges
1:55:58 AM <Cyrix> nor ewLL< RR NZCG RO RAKJ bizt tgiggh
1:56:00 AM <Cyrix> wtf
1:56:10 AM <Cyrix> Not really that much to talk about though this chapter I feel like
1:56:47 AM <Diamondace> what are your thoughts on the person Cap was talking to in the middle?
1:56:47 AM <Tadpole> Cyrix: What was your interpretation of the deal that Cap made?
1:56:51 AM <Diamondace> ha
1:58:08 AM <Cyrix> well, there isn't much to talk about? He arranged to kill himself
1:58:48 AM <Tadpole> Under Master orders from Moonshine, perhaps.
1:59:07 AM <Tadpole> Or as a way to frame Moonshine. But I'm starting to find the former more likely.
1:59:22 AM <Cyrix> master orders from moonshine?
1:59:23 AM <Cyrix> via chat?
1:59:39 AM <Cyrix> that seems a bit far fetched - especially his reaction to her when they were talking
1:59:53 AM <Tadpole> Or via some other means “hey moo - I wish I knew how you did that”
2:00:16 AM <Cyrix> that was him asking how moonshine stopped the assassination and talked him out of it
2:00:40 AM <Cyrix> and then they phrase the term 'professional' two ways - once to refer to the assassine and once to a psychologist
2:00:47 AM <Cyrix> so the other person in chat doesnt catch on
2:01:19 AM <Ereus> maybe she has trigger phrases?
2:01:36 AM <Ereus> like contact than all they need is a trigger 'phrase' from who they think is moonshine
2:02:06 AM <Cyrix> I had the impression that cap really wanted to belong somewhere - but was very bad with phrasing it. Capes have issues like that. GM didnt help. He seeks to reconcile with his old teammates - even if its moonshine who he never got along with.
2:02:37 AM <Cyrix> He also feels guilty for something. Possibly not stepping up for GM like furnicate did.
2:02:58 AM <Elara> *Furcate
2:03:04 AM <Cyrix> Then he his is usual charming self in regards to Moonshine who has to deal with her own trauma - hurts her and things escalte
2:03:12 AM <Diamondace> what makes you think Moonsong stopped the assassination?
2:03:38 AM <Cyrix> at which point he decides: fuck it, my life aint worth anything anymore. I cant kill myself - but I know a roundabout way to do things.
2:04:04 AM <Cyrix> So he hires an assassin to either kill him or kill him and moonshine or w....
2:04:07 AM <Cyrix> I just had a though
2:04:07 AM <Cyrix> t
2:04:10 AM <Elara> I think Moonshine started it
2:05:16 AM <Cyrix> The assassin is Contessa. She is the only one who could take out anyone - so the confidence to do so of the assassin makes sense. Also the buisness model and transaction style has defo cauldron vibes. But contessa promised to taylor to care more for the little things. Help with 'people' things
2:05:28 AM <Cyrix> And the assassin talked cap out of his plan
2:05:41 AM <Cyrix> aka contessa talked him out of it - which should be easy for her
2:05:56 AM <Cyrix> at which point cap is totally baffled - and we see the aftermath of that
2:06:01 AM <Cyrix> in the chat
2:06:11 AM <Elara> o.O
2:06:38 AM <Cyrix> just a thought
2:08:03 AM <Diamondace> that could be interesting
2:08:55 AM <Cyrix> like - he didnt do the transaction chat with contessa. that was someone else who handled contacts and all that.
2:08:57 AM <Elara> it might be a correct thought, but I don't think there's nearly enough information to be confident in it
2:09:06 AM <Cyrix> nah, not confident
2:09:33 AM <Elara> and it seems a bit of an odd one, pulling a major figure from Worm out this early, and this obliquely
2:09:38 AM <Cyrix> but moonshine also says she kinda wants to meet up with him? which doesnt match her previous behaviour - But she also understands now that he needs distance
2:09:49 AM <Cyrix> its like - someone 'pathed' along to set things straight between them
2:10:19 AM <Cyrix> and the way he responded: yeah. Covered
2:10:34 AM <Cyrix> haha, dunno. I like it
2:11:12 AM <Diamondace> i don't think there's enough information in this chapter to be confident of anything
2:11:16 AM <Cyrix> But you are obviously right; it could be just something else - maybe it was just lisa talking him out of it. She has a soft spot for suicide capes
2:11:29 AM <Cyrix> and the person in chat sounds like her
2:11:44 AM <Cyrix> and she could utelize heartbreakers/imp for the killing people stuff
2:12:08 AM <Cyrix> but yeah - the assassin obviously intervened in an effort to help someone suicidal
2:12:25 AM <Cyrix> and also helped them to part in good terms with moonshine
2:12:34 AM <Scylla> just finished reading
2:12:39 AM <Scylla> what a chapter
2:12:48 AM <Cyrix> and motivation/ability for those things are not that widly available
2:13:01 AM <Tadpole> <Cyrix> but yeah - the assassin obviously intervened in an effort to help someone suicidal
2:13:05 AM <Tadpole> Obviously
2:13:10 AM <Cyrix> So yeah - lisa/contessa are my loose guesses
2:13:15 AM <Cyrix> @Tadpole hahahah :D <3
2:13:15 AM <Tadpole> So obvious that I might ask you to spell that out for me again
2:13:30 AM <Elara> it's a crapsack world that's just been through armageddon, there are going to be shitloads of people with the motivation and ability to kill people
2:13:50 AM <Cyrix> yeeeah.
2:14:00 AM <Cyrix> but even they were like wtf thats wrong about his request
2:14:15 AM <Cyrix> and their first reaction was he got the instructions backwards
2:14:24 AM <Cyrix> like - he sent them a picture of himself instead of the target
2:14:32 AM <Cyrix> @Tadpole
2:14:37 AM <Scylla> I took it as they were surprised at who he wanted dead
2:14:47 AM <Tadpole> With you so far, Cyrix
2:14:58 AM <Scylla> Like "are you sure? that's one of the <good guys/bad guys>"
2:14:58 AM <Cyrix> yeah - and then he met up with a certain kind of professional
2:15:00 AM <Cyrix> aka the killer
2:15:01 AM <Tadpole> Could also be a conditional hit, from someone afraid of losing control
2:15:10 AM <Cyrix> and they 'talked him out' off what happend
2:15:13 AM <Cyrix> eerrrr
2:15:16 AM <Cyrix> not what happend
2:15:21 AM <Cyrix> what he had planned
2:15:23 AM <Tadpole> Something something keeping in reserve
2:15:30 AM <Cyrix> like no
2:15:32 AM <Cyrix> no way
2:15:46 AM <Cyrix> the assassin makes it clear they kill a- listers for the right price
2:16:03 AM <Cyrix> and a listers are probs people like myrdinn etc
2:16:15 AM <Tadpole> “we’d keep you guys in reserve?  particulars get complicated”
2:16:17 AM <Cyrix> and they even mention killing people 'higher up' if the price is right
2:16:24 AM <Tadpole> Doesn't fit with “just do me in right now”
2:16:39 AM <Cyrix> @Tadpole quite possibly he set it up to kill moonshine and himself?
2:16:50 AM <Tadpole> Possible too
2:17:04 AM <Cyrix> he fully expected to fight/maybe even win the fight
2:17:11 AM <Cyrix> at which point the assassin would have stepped in
2:17:24 AM <Ereus> wait when wcould we colour text?
2:17:27 AM <Scylla> note that the first convo and the second convo with cap and moonsong only happen 10 hours apart
2:17:35 AM <Tadpole> I think I'm more partial to the master theory
2:18:02 AM <Scylla> a bit too short for a trip to a psychologist, I think
2:18:08 AM <Cyrix> - > I mean, that makes sense, right? If he just wanted to off himself he would do so. Why hire someone? I think because he acknowleges that he doesnt operate this way.
2:18:28 AM <Cyrix> @Scylla as if TT or contessa need that long to prevent the immediate and set you on the way to a real psychologist
2:18:39 AM <Cyrix> and maybe tell you that they already payed for the first 10 sessions
2:18:41 AM <Cyrix> covered
2:18:52 AM <Scylla> IMO there's absolutely 0 chance it's tt
2:19:03 AM <Cyrix> I am not hanging on to the name
2:19:08 AM <Cyrix> it would just fit her MO
2:19:09 AM <Scylla> what would her reasons be?
2:19:13 AM <Cyrix> like
2:19:16 AM <Tadpole> Ereus: Kiwi IRC has a text styling plugin too. Colour in IRC is kind of an unofficial standard.
2:19:19 AM <Cyrix> she has a thing about suicidal people?
2:19:32 AM <Cyrix> and she has access to the heartbroken/imp for assassination buisness?
2:19:54 AM <Cyrix> she also obviously knows the identity of Cap before he shows her the picture
2:20:01 AM <Cyrix> so also a lot access to a lot of information
2:20:13 AM <Cyrix> not to mention fairly decent crpytology knowledge
2:20:19 AM <Scylla> You're still assuming Cap took a hit on himself
2:20:29 AM <Scylla> I don't think that's the only interpretation
2:20:33 AM <Cyrix> its a fairly save assumption I think
2:20:38 AM <Tadpole> Cyrix: Earlier theory was Moonshine is a master, feels Cap getting dangerous during first convo, masters Cap into getting a conditional contract on themselves, Cap acts a lot nicer afterwards (either because of assassin threat or more mastering)
2:21:00 AM <Cyrix> @Tadpole then why would the assassin not do the hit?
2:21:29 AM <Cyrix> and if moonshine could do master stuff via text chat - then why would a longtime teammember like cap not know about that?
2:21:37 AM <Cyrix> or take precaution when entereing the chat
2:21:45 AM <Tadpole> Cyrix: Because the conditional part is part of the deal, keeping on reserve, perhaps Moon feels that Cap is still useful or doesn't want to alienate other team members like Trib
2:21:54 AM <Cyrix> nah
2:21:56 AM <Cyrix> feels wonky to me
2:21:58 AM <Tadpole> Not necessarily via text chat.
2:22:16 AM <Tadpole> Cap expresses surprise when he reconnects with Moon
2:22:24 AM <Cyrix> I feel like you guys attribute to much stuff here to moonshine
2:22:25 AM <Tadpole> “wish I knew how you did that”
2:22:42 AM <Tadpole> “wish I knew how you mastered me when I expected to be out of your range”
2:23:08 AM <Cyrix> hm
2:23:09 AM <Cyrix> maaaybe
2:23:29 AM <Cyrix> maybe moonshine talked them out of it and also identified the hitman
2:23:36 AM <Cyrix> when they met up
2:23:43 AM <Cyrix> talked them out of it and sent them on their way
2:24:06 AM <Tadpole> Moonshine met up?
2:24:33 AM <Scylla> doubt they met up
2:24:39 AM <Cyrix> yeah
2:24:47 AM <Cyrix> thats the part I dont follow along with you
2:24:54 AM <Cyrix> with the master aspect thing
2:24:59 AM <Cyrix> I would think its more thinker
2:25:05 AM <Cyrix> or a thinker she knows
2:25:14 AM <Cyrix> but why does she call him 'boo'
2:25:19 AM <Cyrix> and not 'Tristan' like before?
2:26:15 AM <Scylla> it is weird
2:26:21 AM Faustus → FaustAsleep
2:26:47 AM <Elara> boo, 's a pet name
2:26:49 AM <Elara> like bae
2:27:01 AM <Elara> she's being friendlier, to fit the generally friendlier tone of that chat
2:27:05 AM <Cyrix> ah
2:27:05 AM <Scylla> right, but I didn't get the impression they were close
2:27:08 AM <Cyrix> okay, thanks
2:27:20 AM <Elara> clearly from his reaction to Tristan, he doesn't like being called that/her calling him that
2:27:25 AM <Scylla> Like, he gets- yeah
2:27:35 AM <Cyrix> I still think that the third party (the assassin) intervened
2:27:36 AM <Diamondace> Cap accuses Moon of being two-faced and in that last convo there's a third person there
2:27:42 AM <Elara> so avoiding the name Tristan is one way of her trying not to be a shit
2:27:56 AM <Elara> and yeah, as Diamond notes, that's Moon in "public"
2:28:12 AM <Scylla> Hmm. Very true
2:28:16 AM <Cyrix> the timeframe between the two chats is too short for moonshine/cap to have interacted much more. They didnt even know where the other was besides in a giant sprawling city thats growing skycrapers seemingly over night
2:28:27 AM <Diamondace> I think it's really possible the assassin intervened
2:28:54 AM <Cyrix> Yeah. Not sure about Lisa/contessa
2:28:59 AM <Cyrix> It might be someone else
2:29:07 AM <Cyrix> but lisa has the motivation and the means
2:29:14 AM <Cyrix> and contessa too - in a bit more roundabout a way
2:29:58 AM <Scylla> The main reason I don't think it's TT is that I don't think this story is about someone who was that important in last story
2:30:04 AM <Scylla> the last*
2:31:00 AM <Elara> ^
2:31:06 AM <Elara> Worm is a big world
2:31:11 AM <Scylla> I've never read any of Bow's works live before, so I don't know how this chat usually goes about the discussion, besides what I'm reading tonight
2:31:14 AM <Elara> we're starting somewhere unattached to where we left off
2:31:40 AM <Scylla> Is it always mostly speculation, or is there a place for more emotional impact/personal reactions?
2:31:41 AM <Elara> the big players from Worm 1 will still be out there, but I don't expect to see any of them being directly involved early on
2:31:53 AM <Scylla> I agree with 'lara, and wouldn't have it any other way
2:31:58 AM <Elara> anything is in bounds as long as it's inside server rules, Scylla
2:32:08 AM <Scylla> I like seeing these new characters and their drama
2:32:20 AM <Elara> keep spoilers to the specific channel, and don't be a dick, but otherwise go nuts
2:32:44 AM <Diamondace> I think it's mostly speculation right now because it's hard to have much of an emotional impact on a bunch of characters we don't know much about it
2:33:03 AM <Scylla> Mmm, yeah, I'm familiar with the server rules, just wondering about social conventions for specifically post-chapter discussion
2:33:06 AM <Elara> and when we're not entirely clear on what's happened, either
2:33:12 AM <Diamondace> ^
2:33:37 AM <Cyrix> yeah - with you two so far.
2:33:47 AM <Cyrix> But all things considered the involvment is pretty overt
2:34:06 AM <Cyrix> and it doesnt detrack from the goal of the chapter in regards to world-building
2:34:08 AM <Scylla> Well, for example, it hit me hard when after moon's opening post, you see that big "(Showing Page 1 of 1) / No Replies. / End of Page 1."
2:34:18 AM <Scylla> and then the empty chat
2:34:22 AM <Diamondace> i'm assuming moon and cap are on the same team as point me @ the sky and glizglam, they seem like a really interesting team
2:34:30 AM <Cyrix> last chapter we had a bit more reactions from normal people - this time how capes cope (or do not cope) with the stuff
2:34:31 AM <Scylla> really shows GM's impact
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2:35:40 AM <Diamondace> I really liked that joke about the world ending and the other person saying too soon lol
2:35:43 AM <Cyrix> @Diamondace I am fairly certain moonshine lists all the past teammembers (even lists Scritch and Scratch - their nemesis)
2:36:05 AM <Scylla> But not their PHO names
2:36:07 AM <Cyrix> and I do no think there is any link whatsover to glizglam and point me @ the sky
2:36:22 AM <Diamondace> They do but their PM@TS has two usernames, one civvie one cape
2:36:22 AM <Cyrix> eh
2:36:30 AM <Cyrix> yeah - but we know both
2:36:35 AM <Diamondace> do we?
2:36:36 AM <Cyrix> ah wait
2:37:17 AM <Cyrix> no, only civvy account
2:37:36 AM <Cyrix> but the account used this time isnt linked to a civ identiy account
2:37:43 AM <Diamondace> true
2:37:44 AM <Cyrix> it would say so at the start
2:37:53 AM <Cyrix> so I think those are different people
2:37:56 AM <Tadpole> Yeah I reckon it's someone else, if only due to the sheer lack of callbacks
2:38:05 AM <Scylla> I agree
2:38:08 AM <Cyrix> I think the interludes jump between different people to a) show us how the world is
2:38:21 AM <Cyrix> and b) for readers of worm 1 there are some nudgets to find if you look closely
2:38:47 AM <Cyrix> like hope in pithon and now what I think is lisa
2:39:02 AM <Diamondace> I don't think they're the same people, just members of the same team, I don't really have any concrete evidence here other than vague comments about a team getting back together in the last chapter and it apparently going to be a shit show
2:39:14 AM <Diamondace> and in this one you can clearly see the team introduced, the Reach, having a lot of baggage
2:39:23 AM <Cyrix> yeah but thats true for all teams, right?
2:39:29 AM <Cyrix> could be new wave for all we know
2:39:38 AM <Cyrix> @the glizglam stuff
2:39:39 AM <Diamondace> plus to me it makes narrative sense to connect these PHO chapters in some way
2:39:44 AM <Cyrix> nah
2:39:47 AM <Cyrix> makes zero sense to me
2:39:56 AM <Cyrix> they are worldbuilding chapters - not narrative ones
2:40:01 AM <Scylla> Ehhh
2:40:09 AM <Scylla> They obviously serve a narrative purpose
2:40:09 AM <Diamondace> I think you can do both worldbuilding and narrative at the same time
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2:40:18 AM <Cyrix> yeah - they serve a narrative purpose
2:40:22 AM <Scylla> Even this chapter in and of itself is a narrative
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2:40:24 AM <Cyrix> and thats imo worldbuilding
2:40:36 AM <Cyrix> but the narrative in them and the characters are mostly self contained
2:40:59 AM <Cyrix> doesn't mean one or two people might not show up in the future though
2:41:19 AM <Scylla> Maybe. I expect something in the story or later snippets to clarify what's going on with this and the previous snippet.
2:41:39 AM <Scylla> I don't know if it will be a big deal to whatever's happening then, though
2:41:49 AM <Scylla> not the focus, so to say
2:42:39 AM <Diamondace> idk the talk of a team meeting up again feels like it's setting something up
2:43:52 AM <Diamondace> but you could also be right that these are all separate from each other and setting stuff up that we won't be seeing the resolution of until Worm 2 starts properly
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3:09:33 AM <Megafire> So, that was... odd.
3:12:37 AM <Wellwick> A little confusing tracking what was happening, but feel like I have a better understanding after reading comments, being in discussion
3:14:14 AM <Megafire> Yeah, putting some things together.
3:15:05 AM <Wellwick> I'm still pretty uncertain whether there were any master powers in play during this chapter
3:16:18 AM <Megafire> What we know is that Capricorn took a hit out on someone, right? And the mercenary he hired to do it seemed to have some doubts.
3:16:33 AM <Megafire> Based on who he wanted to take out.
3:16:56 AM <Megafire> And, afterwards, Moonsong was suddenly acting really nice?
3:17:03 AM <Wellwick> The theory he took it out on himself seems like a popular one
3:17:31 AM <Wellwick> Potentially Moonsong having mastered him to do so?
3:17:58 AM <Megafire> Hmhmm.
3:20:05 AM <Hakurei06> Time period is stated as A18
3:20:30 AM <Hakurei06> is that a month/day period, perhaps?
3:20:58 AM <Megafire> I'd say so?
3:21:15 AM <Megafire> Looks like they're using an entirely new calendar.
3:21:34 AM <Hakurei06> is the epoch from the start of GM?
3:21:38 AM <Wellwick> Considering the post at the beginning was most recently edited on August 18th, I'd say so
3:21:48 AM <Hakurei06> ah, august
3:21:56 AM <Hakurei06> that makes sense
3:22:02 AM <Scylla> weird way to say august tbh
3:22:14 AM <Scylla> what're your reactions, Mega
3:22:16 AM <Scylla> ?
3:22:23 AM <Wellwick> It's 2 years since GM I think
3:22:31 AM <Megafire> What do you do with January, June and July in that case?
3:22:37 AM <Cyrix> someone post mega hour conversation up above?
3:22:43 AM <Cyrix> *our
3:22:55 AM <Megafire> And I'm really curious how they started measuring their years, given that it's Y1, but two years after GM.
3:22:57 AM <Hakurei06> ja jn jl?
3:23:16 AM <Wellwick> Year 0, starting at january after GM
3:23:39 AM <Megafire> I hate calendar systems that use multiple letters for only a few months.
3:23:52 AM <Megafire> It just isn't nice and neat.
3:23:59 AM <Hakurei06> wait, what parts of the chapter indicated time since GM?
3:24:11 AM <Megafire> Y1, 'couple of years'.
3:24:24 AM <Wellwick> Last chapter said it was two years from GM, this one is also set in Y1
3:25:45 AM <Megafire> My thoughts are that I have no idea who these people are, or what's going on, but apparently there's a darknet cape killing group that's getting a lot of business.
3:26:38 AM <Wellwick> Maybe not a lot of business, perhaps just an average amount of traffic. Don't have much additional data to support that it's doing well
3:27:44 AM <Cyrix> @Megafire read up in the chat! :D
3:27:55 AM <Cyrix> someone has logs?
3:27:58 AM <Cyrix> elara?
3:28:03 AM <Cyrix> you have logs all the time always
3:28:36 AM <Scylla> logs of what?
3:28:37 AM <Megafire> And anyway, any such business would pretend they're doing good business, regardless of whether or not it's true.