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- AnimeCartoon - Last Saturday at 9:17 AM
- You left the clovis group discord chat aww
- honk - Last Saturday at 11:18 AM
- yeah im not comfortable speaking too much rn
- (pic of neverlose talking to me)
- he's been talking to me all of yday/today missing you and slurms also mentioned what's up. is neverlose aware or is he going to hurt really bad
- i haven't said anything but damn this feels really bad
- AnimeCartoon - Last Saturday at 11:27 AM
- Yeah
- He's been slugging a bit but no sketchy business
- honk - Last Saturday at 11:28 AM
- (i put a pic here of slurms confessing, so she just tried to fucking lie to me)
- :no_mouth:
- AnimeCartoon - Last Saturday at 11:28 AM
- Yea
- Gah
- I'm not really sure what to say other than assure you he hasn't done any sexual stuff :x
- honk - Last Saturday at 11:33 AM
- I still don't think that makes it okay
- I don't know what slurms considers fooling around but if airship even kissed someone I'd be damn hurt
- AnimeCartoon - Last Saturday at 11:35 AM
- There was a lot of groping my chest and kissing, you're right, it's kinda not good ack
- honk - Last Saturday at 11:35 AM
- kinda not good
- anime he's going to be destroyed
- AnimeCartoon - Last Saturday at 11:36 AM
- I've been talking to him too
- honk - Last Saturday at 11:36 AM
- yeah he didn't sleep last night worrying
- i slept at 1am and he still couldn't sleep at 6 his time worrying about you
- AnimeCartoon - Last Saturday at 11:37 AM
- God, maybe I have seriously fucked up
- I was quite drunk last night
- honk - Last Saturday at 11:42 AM
- idk but holy damn i am not feeling good about this
- AnimeCartoon - Last Saturday at 11:43 AM
- Yea I'm mulling over it and I think you're right
- Taking with him about it now
- honk - Last Saturday at 11:43 AM
- like neverlose
- even if he had agreed to an open relationship anime
- its his first time in one and he's not what i'd call stable enough emotionally to sustain it
- also thats why open relationships have boundaries
- because you're meant to ask before you play
- do you really think he was gonna be okay with you and slurms of all people
- AnimeCartoon - Last Saturday at 11:46 AM
- It's not fair to him
- Neverlose that is
- honk - Last Saturday at 11:46 AM
- yes
- as soon as slurms said something i felt sick to my stomach so i hope you're going to be honest with him
- forbidden knowledge is pretty dogshit
- AnimeCartoon - Last Saturday at 11:47 AM
- Yeah I have been
- honk - Last Saturday at 11:47 AM
- if you want slurms then by all means go for it
- but please don't do it with neverlose hanging off you anymore
- honk - Last Saturday at 1:37 PM
- thanks for at least being honest w him, i really didnt want to be in the middle of it(edited)
- AnimeCartoon - Last Saturday at 1:45 PM
- Ya
- That'd be bad
- honk - Last Saturday at 1:46 PM
- felt p shitty having forbidden info etc lol
- December 3, 2017
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:11 PM
- Honk I'm a monster
- I'm a psychopath
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:11 PM
- ill look after neverlose
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:11 PM
- I deserve death
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:11 PM
- noone does, but idk how much i can really get behind this whole thing
- i think im more pissed off at slurms
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:12 PM
- It takes two to tango honk
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:12 PM
- im aware
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:12 PM
- He's too pure, too innocent for shit like me
- I destroyed him
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:13 PM
- i think yeah he didn't deserve this at all
- yep
- hes at the hospital rn because his dad got sick as well, so he's not having the best time
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:13 PM
- Oh christ
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:13 PM
- i think there was def miscommunication because he yeah
- knew you'd fooled around with other people but was alright with it
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:13 PM
- I want to talk to him but I'm scared
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:13 PM
- this kinda thing though is just yeah
- pretty evil
- maybe not evil but extremely selfish
- i think youre best just leaving him be right now
- i dont think you can contact him regardless
- apart from yeah his phone
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:14 PM
- He unblocked me but I dare not break the ice
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:15 PM
- he needs time
- he wants to forgive you eventually
- he's spent all of his time thinking about how this could've happened and how he wants to forgive
- i think he could forgive you but frankly i dont think he should be forgiving slurms
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:17 PM
- I'm fucking stupid
- Honk the really scary thing
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:17 PM
- yeah id agree what you did was extremely stupid
- men like neverlose are an extreme rarity
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:17 PM
- Please don't tell this to him
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:17 PM
- i wont, itll prob hurt him anyway
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:18 PM
- Actually nevermind
- Aaah
- Why am I making excuses
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:18 PM
- i dont mind if you're really polyamorous
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:18 PM
- There are no excuses
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:18 PM
- but next time you need to ask before you play
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:18 PM
- I am
- Ya
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:18 PM
- straight up
- if you'd asked neverlose can you mess with slurms he would've said no, so that's there really
- i have to ask and don't say i asked you this
- were you both going to tell him if i hadn't found out because of slurms' big mouth
- that's where my mind wanders to
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:19 PM
- I was absolutely going to
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:19 PM
- im glad then
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:19 PM
- So this had happened before
- I lost my virginity to a trans girl
- God
- Lemme go even further back
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:20 PM
- ill just say this, i think this scenario was extremely shit, selfish and pretty manipulative from where im coming from
- but at the same time i think you're going through a fuckload right now
- nor the most mentally stable (no offense)
- hence i think you can be forgiven
- slurms is just a gross selfish asshole
- and i made it very clear how neverlose felt about you to him and how he didnt really know/think you guys were open or it was a bad idea. the fact even after i showed him something neverlose said and he planned to keep pursuing you
- pretty unforgivable to me frankly
- i think your remorse is genuine
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:22 PM
- I uh
- I cried harder than I can ever remember last night
- I was soaking my clothes
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:23 PM
- yeah, i bet
- i left airship mid year and wanted to die
- idk
- i have no idea how you fix this really
- or how neverlose picks himself back up from this, apart from time
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:23 PM
- Honk I need an honest opinion from you on something
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:23 PM
- whats up
- if you want honesty you got it lol
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:24 PM
- Neverlose's affection for me often felt like
- Borderline obsession
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:24 PM
- are you asking if that was the case from my pov?
- from what i know of him talking to you and me
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:25 PM
- I talked in anonymous terms about the behavior I saw with some other friends and they told me it was probably obsession and thus the relationship was destined to fail
- And
- It scares me and makes me wonder just how badly he's broken
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:25 PM
- he wasnt obsessed with you
- thats love
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:26 PM
- I think it's Pretty Fucking Bad
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:26 PM
- i never saw any harmful signs/obsessive signs from him
- he just loved you alot
- you had a very fucking rare thing from him
- you're gonna struggle to find someone who genuinely would put you before themselves like he has for you again
- and accepts anything about you
- he was talking like airship would about me
- or doublestep about pet
- about you
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:27 PM
- Gosh I'm so fucking retarded
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:27 PM
- like
- i found out friday night from slurms
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:27 PM
- A moments of drinks, some warm hands, a broken heart
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:27 PM
- i knew he had his eyes on you and was trying to go for it
- i warned him off it
- you sobered up according to him and got heavy, i found out a bit after it happened
- i went to neverlose and asked him a bit about you both to fish for information to decide wether or not you guys were truly open
- he talked about wanting to get you out of the US
- how he didnt like your sleep/eating and wants you to live healthier
- he talked about the upcoming trip
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:29 PM
- I still haven't canceled the tickets
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:29 PM
- he talked about wanting to do GOOD by you damnit
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:29 PM
- It hurts too much
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:29 PM
- he literally wanted to support you because he knows how hard you work
- how stressed your job makes you
- he wanted to make it so you could retire early
- or take breaks
- thats not obsessive
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:29 PM
- I'm a fucking idiot
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:29 PM
- thats the talk of someone who wants to build their life with you
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:30 PM
- I'm garbage
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:30 PM
- not just suck and fuck once
- thats "hey i want to settle down"
- idm if that doesnt align with you
- it just shouldve been clear from the start and something you both talked about
- so next time you speak to him or have a new relationship please let this be a lesson to you about boundaries needing to be drawn
- and the rules and needs laid out flat
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:31 PM
- Yes
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:31 PM
- ive been in an open relationship, airship and i were poly before we settled down
- i know where you're coming from
- but not communicating those things is just where it all goes to shit
- and playing with someone close to either of you is Bad Shit
- i dunno
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:33 PM
- I still want to go see him
- I feel like I shouldn't though
- I need to give him space
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:33 PM
- id say you need to bring that up but be prepared for him to possibly reject that
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:33 PM
- Yea
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:33 PM
- he fell asleep with airship lastn ight
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:33 PM
- I'm ok with that
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:33 PM
- he made airship sit on the phone and talk to him all night
- i joined for a bit
- he was cancelling a bunch of the stuff you were going to do together on the phone and broke down
- so yeah it's bad
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:34 PM
- Oh god
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:34 PM
- airship's extremely good at keeping me chill because damn
- i wanted to wring your and slurms' necks myself
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:34 PM
- This makes my stomach writhe and sends shivers down my spine
- I'd wring my neck
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:35 PM
- whoever told you that his behaviour was obsessive
- is fucking stupid
- and never been with anyone good for them
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:35 PM
- Maybe I should wring my neck
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:35 PM
- dont break his heart even more than it is
- you know thats not going to help
- you have amends to make to him in this life lol
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:36 PM
- I guess so
- I
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:36 PM
- sorry if i'm sounding cunty or too frank
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:36 PM
- I'm so stupid
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:36 PM
- i really hate being nasty but damn am i pissed lol
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:36 PM
- No I need it
- I need this
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:37 PM
- again i think you're not right in the head atm
- but slurms is a piece of shit
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:37 PM
- I need it in my face from people I care
- It has to be real
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:37 PM
- is he still at your place
- hope he knows just the damage he's done
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:37 PM
- Sigh
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:37 PM
- idk if i can bring myself to speak to him again
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:37 PM
- He is yes, he knows
- He's very guilty
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:37 PM
- he's dead to doublestep
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:37 PM
- He's drinking a lot
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:38 PM
- as for me idk
- i knew he was selfish
- but i told him straight one of the things i did love about him was that he protected his friends although sometimes irrationally
- this just completely shattered that and went below the belt
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:39 PM
- I think he's more shaken than he let on
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:39 PM
- good
- he's a moron
- i tried to stop this
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:39 PM
- Slurms was quite drunk
- But I was sober
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:39 PM
- see thats the thing, he was dumb enough to say you were both sober
- so frankly i dont know who i believe out of the two of you
- nor do i really care that much
- drink or not, no excuse
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:39 PM
- Ya
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:41 PM
- idk
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:41 PM
- I wish I could put into words how guilty I feel. I'm so terrified for his well-being
- I was really afraid he'd hurt himself
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:41 PM
- he'll be alright
- no
- he knows doublestep and i will fucking never forgive him for that
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:42 PM
- No I mean neverlose
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:42 PM
- teag
- yeah
- we know
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:43 PM
- I'll try to message him tomorrow
- Maybe
- Don't know
- Probably not
- Would am I kidding
- Wymhy should he trust me
- I wouldn't trust me, in his shoes
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:44 PM
- yeah honestly i wouldnt either but again
- i think this is somewhat of a weird case hoenstly
- i dont think you're of sound mind (no offense again)
- you're going through alot
- i think slurms thought with his dick more than his heart
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:45 PM
- For now I will content myself that he's alive and eating and talking
- That's barely consolation but it's enough for tonight
- Please take care of him and I dearly appreciate all the work you and doublestep have put in
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:46 PM
- yeah no worries
- i drew him an akko and talked with him some more
- only times gonna help
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:47 PM
- I'm gonna cry myself to sleep now so good night and thanks again
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:47 PM
- im not sure what the right decision is anywhere tbh
- prior to this i had it in my head you were just evil frankly, but not after this
- you're human
- we make mistakes
- and if you're showing true remorse then i think things can eventually be at peace
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:48 PM
- I'm a monster honk I'm not human
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:48 PM
- rest easy alright
- you're not a monster anime
- i think you're just troubled
- AnimeCartoon - Last Sunday at 11:48 PM
- I'm a cheating whore
- Let's not play with words
- honk - Last Sunday at 11:50 PM
- im not
- or i wouldve been frank with you
- ive been frank i think you're pretty fucked but i dont think you're a monster lol
- December 4, 2017
- honk - Yesterday at 1:13 AM
- i still think give neverlose space for now but time heals all. hope you can manage to get past this and learn from this as well. Going to bed, gn
- AnimeCartoon - Yesterday at 8:41 AM
- I'm so scared
- I'm so worried about him
- And I feel powerless to help
- My actions we're what hurt him, like an ogre trying to pick up a butterfly
- honk - Yesterday at 8:42 AM
- well yeah
- you just need to leave him alone now lol
- nothing you can do
- literally nothing any of us can do
- AnimeCartoon - Yesterday at 8:43 AM
- I hate myself more than anything in the world
- Fuuuuck
- honk - Yesterday at 8:47 AM
- idk
- only thing that's gonna do everyone any good in this case is time
- and space
- AnimeCartoon - Yesterday at 8:49 AM
- I'm fucked in the head
- honk - Yesterday at 8:49 AM
- literally anything you say to him right now will drive him frantic
- and not for his sake but yours
- literal opposite thing anyone wants is you both not talking in a rational state
- AnimeCartoon - Yesterday at 8:50 AM
- I'm a steaming pile of sociopathic shit
- honk - Yesterday at 8:51 AM
- Don't think you're a sociopath but definitely not smart this time
- AnimeCartoon - Yesterday at 8:51 AM
- I thought on your words overnight
- He really was one in a million
- honk - Yesterday at 8:52 AM
- yeah
- AnimeCartoon - Yesterday at 8:52 AM
- Didn't sleep well
- honk - Yesterday at 8:52 AM
- that kind of love and acceptance is something you weren't gonna ever get out of slurms
- or maybe you would, dunno
- as a person who turned slurms down due to his selfishness I can tell you I'm definitely not regretting that rn
- AnimeCartoon - Yesterday at 8:55 AM
- What a catastrophe
- God
- honk - Yesterday at 8:55 AM
- yeah idk what y'all were thinking
- AnimeCartoon - Yesterday at 8:56 AM
- There were kisses and hands down my shirt and my brain decided this was a fair exchange for real, tangible love
- And I was gonna visit him in 8 days
- honk - Yesterday at 8:57 AM
- yeah
- AnimeCartoon - Yesterday at 8:57 AM
- Turning him from Internet lover to real
- Why am I so unspeakably retarded
- honk - Yesterday at 8:57 AM
- Well, you certainly did with one lol
- AnimeCartoon - Yesterday at 8:58 AM
- I fucked it all up
- AnimeCartoon - Yesterday at 9:00 AM
- I'm sure you're talking to him by now and I'm probably stealing your attention from him, taking it away from a broken soul to feed the little lump of coal that is my heart
- honk - Yesterday at 9:19 AM
- no
- im showering and going out irl
- neverlose finally got to sleep so not gonna wake him lol
- AnimeCartoon - Yesterday at 9:50 AM
- I'm so mad at myself
- What a heartless asshole I am
- AnimeCartoon - Yesterday at 9:56 PM
- I want to send a message to him about plane tickets but I'm blocked
- U-um.... I wanted to let you know I decided not to cancel the plane tickets to Toronto and will still be heading there Saturday (unless you really want me to stay way the fuck away from you). If you are so inclined, we could find a day to talk together--if things go south you could just as easily disassociate. You have absolutely no obligation to pick me up or meet me or even respond to this message if you don't want to, and I totally understand. I figure at the very least I ought to take the chance to talk to En about how I'm a stupid fucking moron
- I guess it serves me right
- AnimeCartoon - Yesterday at 10:01 PM
- This hurts my chest, I really want to talk
- But I deserve it
- honk - Yesterday at 10:20 PM
- sorry i dont think i can in good conscience send this
- AnimeCartoon - Yesterday at 10:22 PM
- Ya, sorry, I didn't mean to imply you should, if was more of an airing of grievances
- I'm trash
- honk - Yesterday at 10:28 PM
- yea idk, im not gonna send him anything thats gonna harm him
- also dont go to toronto
- bad idea
- honk - Yesterday at 11:59 PM
- neverlose - Today at 11:56 PM
- it hit me pretty hard and I could barely believe it
- And I kinda just
- Well I forgot actually. But in any case I can't see her
- I really want her to cancel the tickets
- December 5, 2017
- honk - Today at 12:00 AM
- he already apparently had someone tell him
- neverlose - Yesterday at 11:59 PM
- I want her to know asap honestly
- that she needs to cancel them
- I would take it badly
- neverlose - Today at 12:01 AM
- just tell her the same things you guys tell me, right
- Just leave me alone and I'll leave her alone
- NEW MESSAGES
- neverlose - Today at 12:02 AM
- Try to get better
- And when I'm ready
- she can contact me
- please respect this
- AnimeCartoon - Today at 5:26 AM
- I understand
- honk - Today at 2:34 PM
- are you around, he wants to talk
- AnimeCartoon - Today at 3:30 PM
- I'm in bad shape now. Trying to get the will to cancel the tickets. Been unable to focus on work and trying to forget it all
- I don't think it'd be good
- honk - Today at 3:31 PM
- sec
- hes making up his mind
- he said he's going home first but he'd like to
- but only if you want to, he's not going to force it
- honk - Today at 7:51 PM
- he's going to doxx you
- yeah as the fuck if, you actual psycho cunt
- keep playing the fucking victim in your own fucked up little mind, you're actually fucking nuts
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