[11:03] <@EBear|Out> Australia probably wants first because you get New Year's, Australia's nat holiday, Easter.. oh, and *their* summertime.
[11:03] <@Katzby2> holiday*
[11:03] <cjva> aa
[11:03] <cjva> aha
[11:03] <JoshuaLB> canada is pretty far away
[11:03] <@Katzby2> do people really care about easter?
[11:03] <@EBear|Out> Some do
[11:03] <cjva> I do
[11:03] <@Katzby2> really?
[11:03] <@Katzby2> why?
[11:03] <Myysterio> they are called the ignorant
[11:03] <Myysterio> but yes
[11:03] <Whitdjinn> its become another large family meal day
[11:03] <@Katzby2> haha
[11:03] <@EBear|Out> I did up until a couple years ago
[11:03] <cjva> Largest gaming convetion in sweden during the easter
[11:03] <@Katzby2> oh, I see
[11:03] <JoshuaLB> some people are religious
[11:03] <@Katzby2> I was referring to the holiday
[11:03] <Whitdjinn> like thanksgiving
[11:03] <JoshuaLB> deal with it
[11:04] <@EBear|Out> It's a family thing.
[11:04] <cjva> Katzby2, well, the only holiday I celebrate is 1'st of May
[11:04] <@Katzby2> what's that?
[11:04] <@Katzby2> birthday?
[11:04] <cjva> naah
[11:04] <cjva> Workers day
[11:04] <@Katzby2> interesting
[11:04] <cjva> celebrated pretty much all over the world
[11:04] <cjva> dunno about US toho
[11:04] <cjva> tho
[11:04] <Whitdjinn> there's labor day
[11:04] <@EBear|Out> Probably analogous to Labour Day
[11:04] <@Katzby2> all holidays are are days off of work
[11:04] <Whitdjinn> but thats in the fall
[11:04] <@Katzby2> time to dick around
[11:05] <@EBear|Out> which is in September in US/Canada
[11:05] <cjva> yea.
[11:05] <@EBear|Out> First Monday of September, etc
[11:05] <Myysterio> i have no problem with religious people, i have a problem with the fact that the holiday has lost all meaning and is a bastardization of 20 other holidays which was the direct result of trying to convert people to a religion they didnt believe in
[11:05] <JoshuaLB> shut up you're an idiot
[11:05] <@Katzby2> Myysterio is right
[11:05] <Whitdjinn> secular celebrations for traditionally religious holidays are fine :P
[11:05] <JoshuaLB> like you are literally as bad as fundies
[11:05] <@Katzby2> the holidasy are bs
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03[11:05] * JoshuaLB was kicked by EBear|Out (Someone needs a time-out)
[11:05] <cjva> well, anyway, 1st of May are celebrated to remember a bunch of Anarcists who got killed by the US government anyway
[11:05] <@Katzby2> haha
[11:05] <Myysterio> most of the symbolisum AND the date of the holiday are pagan
[11:06] <@Katzby2> which one?
[11:06] <@Katzby2> I mean
[11:06] <Myysterio> none of it has to do with anything christian
[11:06] <@Katzby2> it's true for all of them
[11:06] <@Katzby2> but which are you referring to?
[11:06] <Myysterio> other than the reason
[11:06] <Whitdjinn> christmas is the biggest one
[11:06] <Whitdjinn> celebrates christs birth, but nowhere close to the time of year it supposedly happened
[11:06] <@Katzby2> well, yeah
[11:06] <Myysterio> nobody knows when christ was born, they just made up a date cause it was convieniently placed on a pagan holiday
[11:06] <cjva> but in essence holidays are just a good reason for people to hang out with people the love, and focus on eachother.
[11:06] <@Katzby2> I don't think this is groundbreaking stuff
[11:07] <Myysterio> people didnt want to change their holiday dates, but their god was perfectly acceptable
[11:07] <Whitdjinn> it was 'you celebrate anyway, just say you celebrate for our reasons'
[11:07] <cjva> so the reason are not important, nor is the religious symbolism around it.
[11:07] <Whitdjinn> holidays got added as the people got conquered and raised hell about their celebrations :P
[11:07] <Whitdjinn> lol
[11:07] <cjva> it might be pagan from the beginning, but it has been adopted by christianity and people like it.
[11:09] <cjva> one thing tha is ruining holidays tho is the comercialism around it. People get stressed out, take loans with bad interest rate etc in order to out shine eachother on the gift they give
[11:09] <Whitdjinn> but yeah, i am probably a humanist or whatever complete lack of supernatural religious beleifs...but totally celebrate christmas, easter, etc with good family get togethers
[11:09] <cjva> EBear|Out, btw, is JoshuaLB the new batmen?
01[11:10] <Tranderas> batmen is the new JoshuaLB :trollface:
06[11:11] * @EBear|Out shrugs
[11:11] <cjva> Whitdjinn, yea, and thats the point. And if there is a god and he is good he's probably just happy if you make your family and persons around you happy.
[11:11] <@EBear|Out> Errands to run, etc
[11:11] <@EBear|Out> bbl
01[11:11] <Tranderas> cya ed
[11:11] <cjva> hf ed
[11:13] <KrmtDfrog> i just think i like the fact that people remember they are religious twice a year
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[11:14] <JoshuaGD> stop that
[11:15] <Myysterio> :\
[11:15] <Zakman86> I'm religious exactly 0 days a year
[11:15] <KrmtDfrog> ban evading eh
[11:15] <JoshuaGD> if i wasn't banned there'd be nothing to evade
[11:15] <cjva> JoshuaGD, stop calling people idiots?
[11:16] <JoshuaGD> fine
[11:16] <KrmtDfrog> also your nick is now joshua goddamn?
[11:16] <JoshuaGD> i'll stop calling people idiots
[11:16] <JoshuaGD> now ed needs to stop acting so immature >:I
[11:16] <KrmtDfrog> meh you're from florida. you're probably an idiot :(
[11:16] <JoshuaGD> no i'm not
[11:16] <JoshuaGD> i'm from the midatlantic
[11:16] <cjva> its not immature, its the responsibillity and OP have.
[11:16] <KrmtDfrog> evidence is pointing otherwise
[11:16] <JoshuaGD> i go to school here
[11:17] <cjva> of an*
[11:17] <JoshuaGD> i was raised in maryland, you bigot
[11:17] <KrmtDfrog> you are in florida
[11:17] <KrmtDfrog> hence
[11:17] <JoshuaGD> incorrect
[11:17] <JoshuaGD> in != from
[11:17] <JoshuaGD> so stop being a bigot TIA
[11:17] <KrmtDfrog> [11:16:59] <KrmtDfrog> you are in florida
[11:17] <JoshuaGD> in != from
[11:17] <KrmtDfrog> didn't i just say that?
[11:17] <JoshuaGD> no you said FROM florida
[11:17] <@Katzby2> heh
[11:17] <@Katzby2> wait
[11:17] <KrmtDfrog> yes
[11:17] <@Katzby2> I want to get this straight
[11:17] <KrmtDfrog> and i corrected myself
[11:17] <JoshuaGD> no you didn't
[11:17] <KrmtDfrog> [11:16:59] <KrmtDfrog> you are in florida
[11:17] <KrmtDfrog> p sure i did
[11:17] <@Katzby2> he's saying it's okay that he is evading a ban because if he wasn't banned, he wouldn't have to evade it
[11:17] <@Katzby2> is that it?
[11:17] <JoshuaGD> you said "you are in florda HENCE"
[11:18] <KrmtDfrog> appears that way
[11:18] <cjva> Katzby2, yes.
[11:18] <JoshuaGD> katzby i'm saying i shouldn't have been banned in the first place
[11:18] <KrmtDfrog> meh
[11:18] <wraithJD> that's not your call to make
[11:18] <cjva> JoshuaGD, thats not for you to decide.
[11:18] <@Katzby2> josh, I think you got banned for calling somebody an idiot
[11:18] <@Katzby2> also, I don't think it was clear who you were calling an idiot
[11:18] <JoshuaGD> then ban krmt
[11:18] <KrmtDfrog> i'm gonna stick with the so far 100% proven correct assumption that anything in florida is an idiot
[11:18] <JoshuaGD> for calling me an idiot
[11:18] <JoshuaGD> see
[11:18] <JoshuaGD> don't use double standards
[11:19] <KrmtDfrog> this isn't a double standard
[11:19] <JoshuaGD> if i can't call someone an idiot, he can't call me an idiot >:I
[11:19] <JoshuaGD> yes it is
[11:19] <KrmtDfrog> you are in florida
[11:19] <JoshuaGD> no
[11:19] <JoshuaGD> legit
[11:19] <JoshuaGD> ban him
[11:19] <KrmtDfrog> this is an applicable label
[11:19] <wraithJD> how baout
[11:19] <JoshuaGD> katzby if i'm gonna get banned for doing this shit, ban krmt
[11:19] <wraithJD> someone re-ban him for ban evasion
[11:19] <JoshuaGD> for doing the EXACT SAME SHIT
[11:19] <@Katzby2> josh, I didn't ban you
[11:19] <wraithJD> which is an actual legitimate gtfo
[11:19] <JoshuaGD> i didn't say you did
[11:19] <JoshuaGD> i said if i am going to receive a ban for calling someone an idiot
[11:20] <@Katzby2> okay
[11:20] <JoshuaGD> krmt should receive a ban for calling someone an idiot
[11:20] <@Katzby2> here's your confusion
[11:20] <JoshuaGD> fair is fair
[11:20] <JoshuaGD> NO
[11:20] <JoshuaGD> fair is fair, man
[11:20] <JoshuaGD> i will leave and accept the ban
[11:20] <KrmtDfrog> to be ACTUALLY fair
[11:20] <JoshuaGD> if he gets banned
[11:20] <KrmtDfrog> you got banned for BEING an idiot
[11:20] <KrmtDfrog> not calling someone an idiot
[11:20] <@Katzby2> you can't accuse me of upholding a double standard because I didn't ban anybody to begin with
[11:20] <KrmtDfrog> that was merely the excuse
[11:20] <JoshuaGD> Katzby2: josh, I think you got banned for calling somebody an idiot
[11:20] <@Katzby2> but more importantly because it's not actually a double standard
[11:20] <JoshuaGD> that's you saying
[11:20] <JoshuaGD> i got banned for calling someone an idiot
[11:20] <JoshuaGD> c/d
[11:20] <KrmtDfrog> again
[11:20] <@[RoXaS]> lol ban evasion
[11:21] <@Katzby2> jesus
[11:21] <@Katzby2> josh
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03[11:21] * JoshuaGD was kicked by Gleemax (Banned)