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  1. Hi /k/.
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  3. Oftentimes, in the gun ownership debate, I'm confronted by people who pull out sources from their asses on either side. Here I will provide you all with an
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  5. in-depth look at the FBI's data pertaining to violent crime in the United States, especially pertaining to firearms. This isn't necessarily about gun
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  7. control, but rather, the effect that this has on violent crime rates in the United States. As such this is very relevant to weapons, as we're observing the
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  9. effects of firearm ownership on a large scale. In this thread, I will provide data that very effectively demonstrates that gun ownership has very little, if
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  11. any, correlation with violent crime, and that variables such as population density and poverty are far better predictors of violent crime. When incorporated
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  13. with the very basic argument that one should have the right to defend oneself, however, the data supports an opinion heavily in favor of private firearm
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  15. ownership of all types, and all sorts of carry laws. If providing this data to someone turns them to shifting the goalposts, you probably can't reason with
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  17. them, but try to remain reasonable. This is very compelling, transparent data from a very reputable source (the FBI) that does not actually benefit or
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  19. suffer from policy pertaining to firearms.
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  22. First we have the following link to the FBI's analysis of violent crime rates between 1990 and 2011.
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  24. https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-1
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  26. Viewing this table, one may observe a very steady decline in violent crime between the years 1992 and 2011 on the federal level. While many people would
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  28. have you believe that violent crime is "on the rise", violent crimes of all types have actually been on a dramatic decline. The only reason they would argue
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  30. otherwise is for supporting their agendas. In 1992, the violent crime rate was ~757 per 100,000 people; in 2011, it was ~386. Even with the introduction of
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  32. the Federal Assault Weapons ban in the mid-1990s and its expiration in the early 2000s, the decline has remained fairly steady. Things are going very well,
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  34. to be blunt, and will likely continue to do so. IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT ANYONE USING DATA ON "GUN VIOLENCE" IS CHERRYPICKING, AS ANY
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  36. COMMON SENSE WOULD INDICATE THAT HIGHER AVAILABILITY OF FIREARMS WOULD INCREASE THEIR USAGE IN THE COMMISSION OF CRIME. We must look at violent crime as a
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  38. holistic concept to understand where correlations actually lie. We will dispel the idea that firearm possession increases violent crime rates soon in this
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  40. analysis.
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  42.  
  43. Next we have the FBI's analysis of the implements used in violent crimes:
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  45. https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8
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  47. Please keep in mind that there are firearms used in crimes of which the types are not stated; however, this is very scientifically-valid and well-done
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  49. analysis. In this analysis, we see that by far pistols make up the vast majority of firearms used in the commission of a homicide. This is contrary to the
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  51. common narrative that ownership of "assault rifles" is a growing crisis in the realm of violent crime. "Assault rifles" by most people's definitions are
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  53. semi-automatic rifles meeting certain cosmetic traits which have little impact on the rifle's function; the AR-15 is a commonly-cited example. They are not
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  55. automatic. According to the analysis performed by the FBI, rifles actually consist a much smaller proportion of firearms used in the commission of homicides
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  57. than pistols- in 2011, rifles were used in 356 commissions of homicide whereas pistols were used in 8,583 commissions of homicide. Keep in mind that an AR-
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  59. 15 is only a subset of the "rifle" category. Also, the rate of homicides committed with any firearm has been on a steady decline despite numerous complaints
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  61. about "mass shootings". To put things in perspective, knives/cutting instruments consisted the weapons used in 1,694 commissions of homicide in 2011: this
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  63. is more than twice the number of homicides committed with cutting instruments than with both rifles of all types and shotguns of all types combined. Rifles
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  65. and shotguns of all kinds are essentially a non-issue: hands, fists, feet, and other "personal weapons" were used more in 2011 than both all types of
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  67. shotguns and all types of rifles.
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  69.  
  70. But what about handguns? To understand the issue of crimes committed with handguns, we must understand why they are so often used: they are cheap when
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  72. available, and more importantly are very easy to conceal. Numerous territories such as New Jersey, New York, California, Illinois, and the District of
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  74. Columbia have made obtaining and legally carrying them very difficult. In New Jersey, one must acquire a pistol purchase permit for each pistol one desires
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  76. to purchase. If they request the laws, you can just Google them: the overall idea is that many regions have strict laws regarding handgun ownership and
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  78. carrying. So, let's view the figures for each territory regarding violent crime rates per 100,000 people. The FBI source pertaining to violent crime rates by state/region is found here:
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  80. https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/table-5
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  82. In any case, let us look at the aforementioned "anti-gun" states:
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  84. New Jersey: ~261
  85. New York: ~381
  86. California: ~396
  87. Illinois: ~370
  88. District of Columbia: ~1244 (yes, 1,244)
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  90. We see wide variation. New Jersey has what would be considered a relatively-low rate of violent crime, whereas the other states have 2x-5x as much violent
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  92. crime. Let us view, now, violent crime rates in states having far fewer regulations on handgun purchasing and ownership. For argument's sake, I will
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  94. include states spread out throughout the United States, just as I did in the last example. Let's use Mississippi, Idaho, Oregon, Louisiana, Pennsylvania,
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  96. Michigan, and Maine:
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  98. Mississippi: ~278
  99. Idaho: ~212
  100. Oregon: ~232
  101. Louisiana: ~514
  102. Michigan: ~427
  103. Pennsylvania (all parts, including Philadelphia): ~314
  104. Maine: ~127
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  106. We see here that there are some states with greater rates of violent crime, some with lower. You can always find states with higher rates of violent crime
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  108. in the opposite category from the one you're viewing. New Jersey, which has very strict gun laws, has 2x the violent crime of Maine (a gun-friendly state),
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  110. 1/2 the violent crime of Louisiana (another gun-friendly state), and 1/4 the crime of D.C. (a very gun-unfriendly state). Trying to compare violent crime by
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  112. gun laws is fallacious: there is no reasonable correlation whatsoever in the United States that demonstrates that gun laws are affiliated with rises or
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  114. declines in violent crime. Anyone who argues otherwise after seeing the data, again, cannot be reasoned with. These data show that we must look at other
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  116. factors in order to reduce violent crime. Any policies that restrict human rights on the basis of reducing violent crime via restricting access to firearms
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  118. are passed for another agenda, as they clearly do not help or hurt the presence of violent crime in any way, shape, or form.
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  120.  
  121. Finally, is the last FBI table we will be viewing:
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  123. https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-
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  125. 2011/tables/table_16_rate_number_of_crimes_per_100000_inhabitants_by_population_group_2011.xls
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  127. Here we see that population density is strongly correlated with violent crime rates. As one enters metropolitan areas, or cities >250,000 people in size,
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  129. the rate (not number of crimes, but the rate per 100,000) of violent crime dramatically increases. From rural to suburban to metropolitan settings, there is
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  131. still a very steady increase in violent crime as population size increases. So while there isn't a correlation between strictness of gun laws and violent
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  133. crime, there is a very strong correlation between population density and violent crime.
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  135. Where does violent crime come from, then? How can we combat it? A right to self-defense is certainly a very valid option for individuals and one which
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  137. should not be inhibited, but on the large scale, we must look at the factors in big cities which affect violent crime. Namely, the presence of poverty.
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  139. Anyone who has visited any large metropolitan area knows of "slums" or "ghettos", which are the areas one avoids. In New York City, one avoids certain
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  141. neighborhoods in the Bronx district; in San Francisco, there are pockets of very violent areas where one avoids walking through at all costs. And how often
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  143. does one find wealthy citizens performing forcible rapes, burglaries, homicides, and aggravated assaults when compared to those in poverty with nothing to
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  145. lose? Poverty itself is responsible for violent crime; by reducing it, we can improve the quality of life for everyone and make the United States a more
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  147. peaceful place to be. When considering that the standard of living has improved dramatically since the 1990s (very few people starve anymore, almost
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  149. everyone has access to the same Internet with free social networking and information available on Google, food has become much cheaper thanks to advancements
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  151. in agricultural technology) it's no surprise that violent crime has been on a decline. While the means of reducing poverty are a discussion of economics
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  153. experts (and are a controversial topic of discussion), it is clear that the task of reducing general violent crime lies in the hands of those seeking to
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  155. reduce poverty. Any effort to reduce human rights by disarmament or restriction of arms in the name of reducing violent crime is ill-aimed, uninformed, and
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  157. pointless save for those lying in order to reduce the power of the people.
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