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- Hi /k/.
- Oftentimes, in the gun ownership debate, I'm confronted by people who pull out sources from their asses on either side. Here I will provide you all with an
- in-depth look at the FBI's data pertaining to violent crime in the United States, especially pertaining to firearms. This isn't necessarily about gun
- control, but rather, the effect that this has on violent crime rates in the United States. As such this is very relevant to weapons, as we're observing the
- effects of firearm ownership on a large scale. In this thread, I will provide data that very effectively demonstrates that gun ownership has very little, if
- any, correlation with violent crime, and that variables such as population density and poverty are far better predictors of violent crime. When incorporated
- with the very basic argument that one should have the right to defend oneself, however, the data supports an opinion heavily in favor of private firearm
- ownership of all types, and all sorts of carry laws. If providing this data to someone turns them to shifting the goalposts, you probably can't reason with
- them, but try to remain reasonable. This is very compelling, transparent data from a very reputable source (the FBI) that does not actually benefit or
- suffer from policy pertaining to firearms.
- First we have the following link to the FBI's analysis of violent crime rates between 1990 and 2011.
- https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-1
- Viewing this table, one may observe a very steady decline in violent crime between the years 1992 and 2011 on the federal level. While many people would
- have you believe that violent crime is "on the rise", violent crimes of all types have actually been on a dramatic decline. The only reason they would argue
- otherwise is for supporting their agendas. In 1992, the violent crime rate was ~757 per 100,000 people; in 2011, it was ~386. Even with the introduction of
- the Federal Assault Weapons ban in the mid-1990s and its expiration in the early 2000s, the decline has remained fairly steady. Things are going very well,
- to be blunt, and will likely continue to do so. IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT ANYONE USING DATA ON "GUN VIOLENCE" IS CHERRYPICKING, AS ANY
- COMMON SENSE WOULD INDICATE THAT HIGHER AVAILABILITY OF FIREARMS WOULD INCREASE THEIR USAGE IN THE COMMISSION OF CRIME. We must look at violent crime as a
- holistic concept to understand where correlations actually lie. We will dispel the idea that firearm possession increases violent crime rates soon in this
- analysis.
- Next we have the FBI's analysis of the implements used in violent crimes:
- https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8
- Please keep in mind that there are firearms used in crimes of which the types are not stated; however, this is very scientifically-valid and well-done
- analysis. In this analysis, we see that by far pistols make up the vast majority of firearms used in the commission of a homicide. This is contrary to the
- common narrative that ownership of "assault rifles" is a growing crisis in the realm of violent crime. "Assault rifles" by most people's definitions are
- semi-automatic rifles meeting certain cosmetic traits which have little impact on the rifle's function; the AR-15 is a commonly-cited example. They are not
- automatic. According to the analysis performed by the FBI, rifles actually consist a much smaller proportion of firearms used in the commission of homicides
- than pistols- in 2011, rifles were used in 356 commissions of homicide whereas pistols were used in 8,583 commissions of homicide. Keep in mind that an AR-
- 15 is only a subset of the "rifle" category. Also, the rate of homicides committed with any firearm has been on a steady decline despite numerous complaints
- about "mass shootings". To put things in perspective, knives/cutting instruments consisted the weapons used in 1,694 commissions of homicide in 2011: this
- is more than twice the number of homicides committed with cutting instruments than with both rifles of all types and shotguns of all types combined. Rifles
- and shotguns of all kinds are essentially a non-issue: hands, fists, feet, and other "personal weapons" were used more in 2011 than both all types of
- shotguns and all types of rifles.
- But what about handguns? To understand the issue of crimes committed with handguns, we must understand why they are so often used: they are cheap when
- available, and more importantly are very easy to conceal. Numerous territories such as New Jersey, New York, California, Illinois, and the District of
- Columbia have made obtaining and legally carrying them very difficult. In New Jersey, one must acquire a pistol purchase permit for each pistol one desires
- to purchase. If they request the laws, you can just Google them: the overall idea is that many regions have strict laws regarding handgun ownership and
- carrying. So, let's view the figures for each territory regarding violent crime rates per 100,000 people. The FBI source pertaining to violent crime rates by state/region is found here:
- https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/table-5
- In any case, let us look at the aforementioned "anti-gun" states:
- New Jersey: ~261
- New York: ~381
- California: ~396
- Illinois: ~370
- District of Columbia: ~1244 (yes, 1,244)
- We see wide variation. New Jersey has what would be considered a relatively-low rate of violent crime, whereas the other states have 2x-5x as much violent
- crime. Let us view, now, violent crime rates in states having far fewer regulations on handgun purchasing and ownership. For argument's sake, I will
- include states spread out throughout the United States, just as I did in the last example. Let's use Mississippi, Idaho, Oregon, Louisiana, Pennsylvania,
- Michigan, and Maine:
- Mississippi: ~278
- Idaho: ~212
- Oregon: ~232
- Louisiana: ~514
- Michigan: ~427
- Pennsylvania (all parts, including Philadelphia): ~314
- Maine: ~127
- We see here that there are some states with greater rates of violent crime, some with lower. You can always find states with higher rates of violent crime
- in the opposite category from the one you're viewing. New Jersey, which has very strict gun laws, has 2x the violent crime of Maine (a gun-friendly state),
- 1/2 the violent crime of Louisiana (another gun-friendly state), and 1/4 the crime of D.C. (a very gun-unfriendly state). Trying to compare violent crime by
- gun laws is fallacious: there is no reasonable correlation whatsoever in the United States that demonstrates that gun laws are affiliated with rises or
- declines in violent crime. Anyone who argues otherwise after seeing the data, again, cannot be reasoned with. These data show that we must look at other
- factors in order to reduce violent crime. Any policies that restrict human rights on the basis of reducing violent crime via restricting access to firearms
- are passed for another agenda, as they clearly do not help or hurt the presence of violent crime in any way, shape, or form.
- Finally, is the last FBI table we will be viewing:
- https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-
- 2011/tables/table_16_rate_number_of_crimes_per_100000_inhabitants_by_population_group_2011.xls
- Here we see that population density is strongly correlated with violent crime rates. As one enters metropolitan areas, or cities >250,000 people in size,
- the rate (not number of crimes, but the rate per 100,000) of violent crime dramatically increases. From rural to suburban to metropolitan settings, there is
- still a very steady increase in violent crime as population size increases. So while there isn't a correlation between strictness of gun laws and violent
- crime, there is a very strong correlation between population density and violent crime.
- Where does violent crime come from, then? How can we combat it? A right to self-defense is certainly a very valid option for individuals and one which
- should not be inhibited, but on the large scale, we must look at the factors in big cities which affect violent crime. Namely, the presence of poverty.
- Anyone who has visited any large metropolitan area knows of "slums" or "ghettos", which are the areas one avoids. In New York City, one avoids certain
- neighborhoods in the Bronx district; in San Francisco, there are pockets of very violent areas where one avoids walking through at all costs. And how often
- does one find wealthy citizens performing forcible rapes, burglaries, homicides, and aggravated assaults when compared to those in poverty with nothing to
- lose? Poverty itself is responsible for violent crime; by reducing it, we can improve the quality of life for everyone and make the United States a more
- peaceful place to be. When considering that the standard of living has improved dramatically since the 1990s (very few people starve anymore, almost
- everyone has access to the same Internet with free social networking and information available on Google, food has become much cheaper thanks to advancements
- in agricultural technology) it's no surprise that violent crime has been on a decline. While the means of reducing poverty are a discussion of economics
- experts (and are a controversial topic of discussion), it is clear that the task of reducing general violent crime lies in the hands of those seeking to
- reduce poverty. Any effort to reduce human rights by disarmament or restriction of arms in the name of reducing violent crime is ill-aimed, uninformed, and
- pointless save for those lying in order to reduce the power of the people.
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