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- ***** So, I was reading the ponyfall fanfics, when I happened across one that was, for lack of a different word, "unsanctioned".
- ***** The hate was mind-bogglingly intense. Brutal. I felt the author's pain.
- ***** So I wrote my own, to test the water. I wasn't even subtle about it. Here's the logs from when it hit the community. I am nothing if not honest, and so these logs are unedited. (Apart from a redaction early on, where irrelevant things were discussed regarding ponyfall plot.)
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- Apr 03 02:17:01 *#ponyfall* Welcome back, and you're listening to #ponyfall
- Apr 03 02:17:01 *#ponyfall* [][ ][ ][ ][P][O][N][Y][][F][A][L][L][ ][ ][ ][]
- Apr 03 02:17:01 *#ponyfall* Sponsored by ok. (Wed Mar 21 21:57:19 2012)
- Apr 03 02:17:01 -srsbsns- [#ponyfall] This is the IRC channel for the PonyFall collab project. Check http://www.fimfiction.net/index.php?view=group&group=405 for more information.
- Apr 03 02:17:07 <__Belgarion__> GO AWAY
- Apr 03 02:17:09 <Gancolt> I is glimpses to other worlds. II is small, minimal interaction. III is with few individuals traveling between, but generally uncontrolled. IV is where travel is possible and controlled. V is where populaces are moved forcibly, but can be moved back.
- Apr 03 02:17:17 <__Belgarion__> WE DON'T WANT YOU
- *****
- ***** This is what we call a "nice welcome". How about that.
- ***** I lurked a little longer, waiting. See, I'd submitted my "unauthorized" story earlier, and it was 4th in queue - 40 minutes away, or so.
- *****
- Apr 03 02:22:01 <Meld|School> ...Uhhh, quick question... why has Poul infiltrated this chat?
- Apr 03 02:22:02 <Gancolt> The rest is speculation until Drae makes a final decision on it.
- Apr 03 02:22:12 <Gancolt> Because he fucking felt like it, Meldy.
- Apr 03 02:22:14 <Gancolt> :I
- Apr 03 02:22:15 <Gancolt> Just sayin'.
- Apr 03 02:22:40 <DragonLS> how's that rollcall comin' gancolt?
- Apr 03 02:24:29 <Gancolt> About to get started on it.
- Apr 03 02:25:07 <Link02> blah
- Apr 03 02:25:22 <Link02> Changed the description of my PonyFall
- ***** Cue someone spotting the fic making it's way to the front page...
- Apr 03 02:25:23 <Belgianchief> great, another Twilight Sparkle Ponyfall fic
- Apr 03 02:25:33 <DragonLS> what's wrong Belgian?
- Apr 03 02:25:35 <Belgianchief> http://www.fimfiction.net/story/18754/Ponyfall%3A-The-Twilight-Jimmy-Rustler
- Apr 03 02:25:47 <Belgianchief> just showed up
- Apr 03 02:25:58 <Belgianchief> and it almost claims that it's part of the collab
- Apr 03 02:26:08 <DragonLS> oh god... this isn't good
- Apr 03 02:26:12 <DragonLS> we have copycats now
- Apr 03 02:26:16 <Belgianchief> nope
- Apr 03 02:26:35 <DragonLS> thumb it down folks
- ***** What. Is. This?
- *****
- ***** From this point onwards, it's straight logs. You can draw your own conclusions.
- ***** They're not all bad, but there's a few bad apples leading the charge.
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- Apr 03 02:26:43 <Link02> Looks like your jimmies have been rustled!
- Apr 03 02:26:51 <DragonLS> says the gorilla
- Apr 03 02:27:25 <Belgianchief> Poultron, I'm sorry to disturb you again, but is there any way we can stop things like that?
- Apr 03 02:27:52 <Meld|School> You know what, I'm going to hold mine back.n
- Apr 03 02:27:52 <+Poultron> no
- ***** FYI - Poultron's one of just 3 mods on FIMFiction. He does a damn fine job of it, and I regret inconveniencing him, even indirectly.
- Apr 03 02:27:55 <__Belgarion__> Damn
- Apr 03 02:27:59 <DragonLS> aw crap
- Apr 03 02:28:09 <+Poultron> we dont sanction the collab
- Apr 03 02:28:12 <__Belgarion__> make sure your jimmies reamin unrustled
- Apr 03 02:28:13 <+Poultron> so we dont care if people "pretend" to be i nit
- Apr 03 02:28:20 <Belgianchief> I'm just asking
- Apr 03 02:28:23 <+Poultron> just bitch at them yourself
- Apr 03 02:28:25 <__Belgarion__> BIt harsh
- Apr 03 02:28:31 <+Poultron> not meant to be
- Apr 03 02:28:33 <+Poultron> i just meant like
- Apr 03 02:28:35 <__Belgarion__> I know
- Apr 03 02:28:37 <+Poultron> we arent going to intervene
- Apr 03 02:28:42 <__Belgarion__> But it seemed like it
- Apr 03 02:28:42 <+Poultron> because this is your collab
- Apr 03 02:28:43 <+Poultron> not ours
- Apr 03 02:28:50 <Belgianchief> yeah, we'll manage, but just checking
- Apr 03 02:28:55 <+Poultron> i meant that we dont "officially" sanction it
- Apr 03 02:28:56 <DragonLS> guys
- Apr 03 02:28:59 <DragonLS> calm down
- Apr 03 02:29:01 <Meld|School> I'm going to wait until the other PonyFall fics have cleared of the featured box and there are no others posted on the same day.
- Apr 03 02:29:03 <+Poultron> what i meant was uh
- Apr 03 02:29:05 <+Poultron> condone?
- Apr 03 02:29:06 <DragonLS> it's just a copycat... shit like this happens all the time
- Apr 03 02:29:08 <+Poultron> idont know the right word
- Apr 03 02:29:10 <+Poultron> im really tired
- Apr 03 02:29:15 <DragonLS> PonyFall isn't some god people ahve to worship
- Apr 03 02:29:20 <DragonLS> it's our problem, and we can take care of it
- Apr 03 02:29:26 <Belgianchief> yeah
- Apr 03 02:29:37 <Meld|School> Leave Poultron alone> Legally, they don't have to do anything.
- Apr 03 02:29:56 <__Belgarion__> Lets fuck his shit up?
- Apr 03 02:29:56 <DragonLS> however...
- Apr 03 02:29:59 <DragonLS> no Bel
- Apr 03 02:30:05 <DragonLS> we don't want to turn this into a flame war
- Apr 03 02:30:05 <__Belgarion__> I was kidding
- Apr 03 02:30:11 <__Belgarion__> Look at my comment
- Apr 03 02:30:11 <DragonLS> just dislike the fic and move along
- Apr 03 02:30:24 <Meld|School> Just ask the authors kindly to not make it seem like they are in the collab.
- Apr 03 02:30:36 <Meld|School> Or at least have a disclaimer.
- Apr 03 02:30:50 <Meld|School> The one I read wasn't too bad, it was just bad timing.
- Apr 03 02:31:13 <Gancolt> Copycat fic already?
- Apr 03 02:31:18 <Gancolt> Let me take a look.
- Apr 03 02:31:22 <__Belgarion__> He is doing it on purpos
- Apr 03 02:31:23 <Meld|School> Don't you start
- Apr 03 02:31:39 * Asuya (*@*.net) joins #ponyfall!
- Apr 03 02:32:19 <Meld|School> http://www.fimfiction.net/story/18754/Ponyfall%3A-The-Twilight-Jimmy-Rustler
- Apr 03 02:32:21 <__Belgarion__> Sup
- Apr 03 02:32:30 <Meld|School> http://www.fimfiction.net/story/18483/-Out-of-place%3B-inspired-by-the-colab-ponyfall
- Apr 03 02:32:34 <Meld|School> Those are the copies.
- Apr 03 02:32:37 <Meld|School> Nuff said.
- Apr 03 02:33:13 <DragonLS> shit, there's two of them!?
- Apr 03 02:33:32 <Gancolt> I'll approach this. The copycats that claim to be inspired by PonyFall can be ignored.
- Apr 03 02:33:46 <Gancolt> The ones claiming to be PonyFall are the ones to be straightened out immediately.
- Apr 03 02:34:07 <Belgianchief> as is the case with the Jimmy Rustler one
- Apr 03 02:34:09 <DragonLS> the first one is an obvious troll
- Apr 03 02:34:22 <DragonLS> ... a decent one at that
- Apr 03 02:34:38 <Link02> Love & Tolerance. I take it that is a revoked saying in this group?
- Apr 03 02:34:50 <Gancolt> Not at all.
- Apr 03 02:34:51 <Belgianchief> hey, we never said anything about the fic being bad
- Apr 03 02:35:00 <Meld|School> Link02, we were all really pissed.
- Apr 03 02:35:10 <Gancolt> I tolerate their trolling, but I do wish that others won't be misled to think it's the real thing.
- Apr 03 02:35:10 * Link02 looks at all the hate comments on the second one
- ***** This is referring to the one that got me going.
- Apr 03 02:35:15 <Belgianchief> we just said that it's pretending to be part of the collab, which it is not
- Apr 03 02:35:17 <Meld|School> Because it was, like, right after one of ours got posted.
- Apr 03 02:36:03 <Gancolt> Then we post the first comments, let people know it isn't official, and leave it be.
- Apr 03 02:36:04 <Asuya> oh hey, Hive's fic is up
- Apr 03 02:36:24 <Gancolt> We have no business other than that.
- Apr 03 02:36:36 <Meld|School> And already it has a troll comment.
- Apr 03 02:36:57 <DragonLS> lol wow... the guy in the second one is pretty butthurt about it
- Apr 03 02:36:59 <__Belgarion__> Click on more in the jimmy rustler one
- Apr 03 02:37:09 <__Belgarion__> I lied, my jimmies are rustled
- Apr 03 02:37:41 <Asuya> why, is it just bad or something?
- Apr 03 02:38:08 <DragonLS> I must admit...
- Apr 03 02:38:14 <DragonLS> when I see stuff like this happening, I get hyper
- Apr 03 02:38:32 <DragonLS> ...not the good kind of hyper
- Apr 03 02:38:36 <DragonLS> I need to control myself
- Apr 03 02:38:54 <Belgianchief> "I'm writing the Ponyfall fanfictions and there's nothing you can do to stop me" Litterally saying that in the description
- ***** This is me being subtle.
- Apr 03 02:39:00 <Asuya> I really wish that there was a place i could go to where people are nice and aren't ripping off ideas from others without evn bothering to ask
- Apr 03 02:39:00 <Belgianchief> that's what making me mad
- Apr 03 02:39:26 <Asuya> I used to think i could come to the brony community, but now i'm second guessing this community
- Apr 03 02:39:53 <__Belgarion__> I really dislike this silver tie guy
- Apr 03 02:39:59 <__Belgarion__> He negatived on my fic
- ***** BECAUSE IT WAS SHITTY. I took the time to read it, and even gave constructive criticism.
- Apr 03 02:40:19 <Asuya> so many people are just pulling the same shit as people here in my IRL town are and i've had enough
- Apr 03 02:40:26 <Gancolt> Asuya, this is conflict.
- Apr 03 02:40:30 <Gancolt> Deal with conflict.
- Apr 03 02:40:53 <Asuya> I understand Gan, but how i deal with conflict will like get me banned
- Apr 03 02:41:00 <Gancolt> Conflict won't go away by changing places.
- Apr 03 02:41:04 <Asuya> cause it's baaad
- Apr 03 02:41:07 <__Belgarion__> How do you deal wth it
- Apr 03 02:41:08 <Gancolt> Then find a way to deal with it within the rules.
- Apr 03 02:41:15 <Asuya> ......
- Apr 03 02:41:20 <__Belgarion__> What did you wnat to do
- Apr 03 02:41:43 <Asuya> last time i got in a conflict with someon, i nearly broke his nose
- Apr 03 02:41:49 <__Belgarion__> Not to bad
- Apr 03 02:41:54 <__Belgarion__> Could have doen worse
- Apr 03 02:42:02 * Derpy_Teh_Muffin_Mastur (*@*.net) joins #ponyfall!
- Apr 03 02:42:06 <__Belgarion__> Now, what are we going to do about this
- Apr 03 02:42:11 <__Belgarion__> Hey derpy
- Apr 03 02:42:12 <Asuya> had i not restrained myself, i could've killed him
- Apr 03 02:42:23 <__Belgarion__> That is what we are talking bout
- Apr 03 02:42:27 <__Belgarion__> Murdser him
- Apr 03 02:42:35 <__Belgarion__> Then he cannot post more troll fics
- Apr 03 02:42:36 <Asuya> -_-
- Apr 03 02:42:46 <__Belgarion__> It is a legitimate solution
- Apr 03 02:43:01 <Derpy_Teh_Muffin_Mastur> hey
- Apr 03 02:43:15 <Asuya> whatever, I'm going to turn on Welcome to the black Parade and work on revamping my horrible fic
- Apr 03 02:43:33 <__Belgarion__> Okay
- Apr 03 02:43:37 <__Belgarion__> Hey derpy
- Apr 03 02:43:42 <__Belgarion__> How is it going
- Apr 03 02:43:53 <Derpy_Teh_Muffin_Mastur> so so
- Apr 03 02:44:02 <__Belgarion__> good good
- Apr 03 02:44:18 <__Belgarion__> Did you know that robcakeran was in here earlier
- Apr 03 02:44:24 <__Belgarion__> the creator of MLD
- Apr 03 02:44:31 <Derpy_Teh_Muffin_Mastur> wow
- Apr 03 02:44:34 <__Belgarion__> You missed some fun convos
- Apr 03 02:44:38 <__Belgarion__> It is a shame
- Apr 03 02:44:44 <__Belgarion__> He also joined the collab
- Apr 03 02:44:53 <Derpy_Teh_Muffin_Mastur> nice, who's he got?
- Apr 03 02:45:13 * DragonLS_ (*@*) joins #ponyfall!
- Apr 03 02:45:19 <DragonLS_> god damn internet and its disconnections
- Apr 03 02:45:29 <__Belgarion__> Yep
- Apr 03 02:45:31 * DragonLS has quit! (SVSKilled: GHOST command used by DragonLS_)
- Apr 03 02:45:35 <!> DragonLS_ is now known as DragonLS
- Apr 03 02:45:39 <__Belgarion__> So, drags, what are we going to do
- Apr 03 02:45:47 <DragonLS> I wasn't here for 5 mins
- Apr 03 02:45:49 <DragonLS> what did I miss?
- Apr 03 02:45:54 <__Belgarion__> Not much
- Apr 03 02:46:05 <__Belgarion__> What are we going to do
- Apr 03 02:46:13 <DragonLS> what do you mean?
- Apr 03 02:46:22 <__Belgarion__> About the troll fics
- Apr 03 02:46:31 <DragonLS> nothing we can do but comment and dislike.
- Apr 03 02:46:39 <__Belgarion__> okay then
- Apr 03 02:46:39 <DragonLS> we can't really do much
- Apr 03 02:46:53 <DragonLS> but we can't go as far as a flame war. That's the #1 thing I want to avoid
- Apr 03 02:47:04 <DragonLS> or a drama war for that matter. The trolls want a reaction out of us
- ***** Tooooo late for that, by this time, I'd already gotten public comments on the story. Troll fed.
- Apr 03 02:47:09 <Gancolt> As far as troll fics and mislabeled fics, oru stance is simple: We state it isn't a part of the collab, and we leave.
- Apr 03 02:47:17 <Gancolt> *our stance
- Apr 03 02:47:18 <__Belgarion__> You are right
- Apr 03 02:47:21 <Belgianchief> I've added Hive's fic
- Apr 03 02:47:25 <Belgianchief> to the collab
- Apr 03 02:47:26 <Derpy_Teh_Muffin_Mastur> wait..troll fics?
- Apr 03 02:47:29 <Derpy_Teh_Muffin_Mastur> about what?
- Apr 03 02:47:38 <__Belgarion__> To an outward appearance, our jimmies should appear unrustled
- ***** Right. And I'm a pretty princess.
- Apr 03 02:47:46 <__Belgarion__> PonyFall
- Apr 03 02:47:52 * Poultron has quit! (Ping timeout: 360 seconds)
- Apr 03 02:47:52 <Belgianchief> http://www.fimfiction.net/story/18754/Ponyfall%3A-The-Twilight-Jimmy-Rustler
- Apr 03 02:47:59 <Belgianchief> Read the description and you'll understand
- Apr 03 02:48:15 <Gancolt> We're the first major collaboration of FiMFiction. We have to carry ourselves with a certain air and tread lightly.
- ***** Disagree. Conversion Bureau's beaten them to the punch, I believe.
- Apr 03 02:48:26 <__Belgarion__> Unrustled Jimmies
- Apr 03 02:48:27 <Gancolt> *a certain air of dignity and
- Apr 03 02:48:50 <Gancolt> We pave the path for more collaborations.
- Apr 03 02:49:12 <Gancolt> We cannot do this if we break down into anarchy, flame wars, and being easily trolled.
- Apr 03 02:49:16 <__Belgarion__> Yes
- Apr 03 02:49:23 <Belgianchief> I agree completely
- Apr 03 02:49:26 <__Belgarion__> we are doing something for the good of the community
- Apr 03 02:49:42 <Derpy_Teh_Muffin_Mastur> haters gonna hate
- Apr 03 02:49:45 <Gancolt> It starts with us, and we must remember this in how we carry ourselves.
- Apr 03 02:49:46 <__Belgarion__> This is the largest gathering of brony authors
- Apr 03 02:49:50 <__Belgarion__> You have my sword
- Apr 03 02:50:02 <Belgianchief> It'll never get as popular anyway, because it's not getting added to the group
- Apr 03 02:50:22 <__Belgarion__> You have my sword in this fellowship
- Apr 03 02:50:36 <Gancolt> Drae started this, and it's his idea, but WE make it possible. We follow his idea, it is us who make this a collaboration.
- Apr 03 02:50:51 <Belgianchief> You have my word Bel
- Apr 03 02:50:55 <__Belgarion__> He is our Gandalf
- Apr 03 02:51:09 <Gancolt> So, simply put: trolls and attention seekers are beneath us.
- Apr 03 02:51:17 <Gancolt> Just note that it's mislabeled and move on.
- Apr 03 02:51:18 <DragonLS> people are starting to troll in the official PonyFall fics as well, now
- Apr 03 02:51:18 <Belgianchief> just ignore them
- Apr 03 02:51:34 <DragonLS> or, hell, delete 'em
- Apr 03 02:52:01 <__Belgarion__> I keep them
- Apr 03 02:52:06 <Gancolt> It's time to get this shit together and start hitting full force.
- Apr 03 02:52:11 <__Belgarion__> To show that I am unrustled in my jimmies
- Apr 03 02:52:28 <Derpy_Teh_Muffin_Mastur> that spiderman pic made me laugh
- Apr 03 02:53:00 <Belgianchief> Wilhelm II is a famous troll around here
- Apr 03 02:53:18 <Gancolt> DragonLS, I'm starting the limit cap.
- Apr 03 02:53:22 <Gancolt> Is that fine by you?
- Apr 03 02:53:26 <DragonLS> what's our limit?
- Apr 03 02:53:28 <Gancolt> And you, Belgianchief?
- Apr 03 02:53:35 <Gancolt> Whatever number we have after Rob joins.
- Apr 03 02:53:39 <DragonLS> fine by me
- Apr 03 02:54:04 <Belgianchief> yeah, it needs to be limited
- Apr 03 02:54:18 <Belgianchief> we have all the major characters
- Apr 03 02:55:36 <Asuya> I'm probably gonna be kicked then since Misty's fairly unheard of
- Apr 03 02:55:39 <Asuya> right?
- Apr 03 02:55:45 <Gancolt> Ok. Then we're agreed, along with Drae from earlier, that we are no longer accepting new authors (with exceptions).
- Apr 03 02:55:52 <Gancolt> No, if you're in at the moment, you'll stay in.
- Apr 03 02:56:03 <__Belgarion__> wHAT ARE THE EXEPTION
- Apr 03 02:56:04 <Gancolt> We just aren't accepting NEW people.
- Apr 03 02:56:14 <Derpy_Teh_Muffin_Mastur> i still haven't been added D:
- Apr 03 02:56:16 <Gancolt> Exceptions like Rob.
- Apr 03 02:56:16 <Belgianchief> Exceptions would be well-known authors
- Apr 03 02:56:44 <Asuya> btw, Silver's fic made it to the featured list
- *****
- ***** And here is where I'll stop, because beyond here is just irrelevant chatter. There is a second resurgence when I replied to everyone, but this is largely where it stops.
- ***** Why do this? I was bored. I wanted to make them upset for making that other author upset. So I hit back with a work which is arguably better than most of theirs.
- ***** We'll see what happens.
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