Forest and Abstract Thought

GrandArb	Forest`: There is a current spate of Zebroid Tarring going on.
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12:18	GrandArb	Perhaps, as an operator, you can DO SOMETHING to restore order to our community.
12:18	Forest`	i have no idea what zebroid tarring is
12:18	GrandArb	Forest`: It is when you do not give the respect to Zebroid they deserve.
12:18	Forest`	i don't know that they deserve any
12:19	GrandArb	Forest`: Do humans deserve respect?
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12:20	Forest`	no one deserves anything inherantly
12:21	GrandArb	Forest`: How about censoring views of people we find objectionable in chatrooms we frequent?
12:21	GrandArb	Does anybody deserve that?
12:21	Forest`	i'm all for that
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12:21	GrandArb	Forest`: I believe you.
12:21	Forest`	what happens in chat rooms has nothing to do with what you deserve. You are under no obligation to be here.
12:22	GrandArb	Forest`: That's one model.
12:22	GrandArb	There are alternative models.
12:22	GrandArb	Something tells me you'll consider those 'philosophy', but your model is 'reality'.
12:23	GrandArb	For example, Forest`, in Kant's system, each person's duty to be moral is unaffected by whether that person is in a chatroom or elsewhere, as moral duty is self-originating.
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12:23	Forest`	i'm sure kant was quite familiar with irc
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12:23	PorcelainPorcupine	Forest`: irc was a really big thing in the 1770s
12:23	GrandArb	Forest`: See, that's the value of abstract thinking. Your statements are useful beyond the particulars.
12:24	GrandArb	It's neat.
12:24	PorcelainPorcupine	Forest`: they wrote on paper and sent it with pidgeons
12:24	GrandArb	Let's see if we can do some abstract thinking:
12:24	GrandArb	"I should always tell the truth, no matter the context."
12:25	PorcelainPorcupine	Forest`: and apparently a hostile takeover of #moralgesetze was what triggered Kant's awakening from dogmatic slumber
12:25	GrandArb	Oops, wait a minute, I didn't consider whether or not the speaker is in IRC at the time.
12:25	GrandArb	Let's see how many statement holds up against this Surprise Attack.
12:25	GrandArb	"no matter the context"
12:25	GrandArb	Oh, I did take IRC into account.
12:26	GrandArb	Let's try another: "Moral behavior is determined by adherence to the categorical imperative."
12:26	GrandArb	Is IRC the categorical imperative? No, it is not. Therefore, irrelevant.
12:26	Forest`	GrandArb just so we are clear, your "us" isn't involving me.