Astel talks about the current situation with Holostars

https://youtu.be/OOUlWrOg78g?t=7725 (【VCR GTA】ヘリ 船 / アステル) [603:30]

tl;dr

* Resources put into Holostars projects are not generating enough to invest into next projects anymore.

* In this instance, they had a Live 6 months back, and he assumes they didn't make enough from it to invest into the countdown live.

* He doesn't blame the fans, but he thinks the talents have to work harder - as a whole.

* When you have only few people, ALL of them have to work hard for the whole Box to thrive.

* 1-2 people going viral isn't going to help the Holostars box as a whole.

* Negative loop of not having enough people --* Not enough resources to push new debuts.

* For the past 2 years attempts were made to gather all 12 members + management to have a discussion about Holostars' future for over 2 years.

* Doesn't know if it's management or talents that don't have the will, but revealed that Fuma often drops out of meetings talking about difficult topics saying he's hungry.

* And how the vibe generally shifts into everyone else dropping off when one person drops off.

* Astel knew even 2-3 years back that things would end up this way, so for him this is more like "ah, so it's finally happened".

* Understands how fans would quit if they get sudden shocks like this, but that's why he's been trying for the past 2-3 years to get things fixed, but to no avail.


Full transcript Part 1:

https://youtu.be/OOUlWrOg78g?t=7725 (【VCR GTA】ヘリ 船 / アステル) [603:30]

* about Holostars, well...

* take this from someone who knows a lot

* Holostars is in a reasonable (state)

* If anything, until now there has been a lot of over(enthusiasm) from management

* Last year's countdown Live for example, planning for it started from the end of summer

* So stuff like this needs at least 6 months of preparation

* And we had a live 6 months ago right?

* So.. a lot of effort went into that

* If we didn't get more than the resources than what we spent on that live

* It's impossible to do another one 6 months later right?

* So.. we probably weren't able to do that right?

* I'm not entirely sure, I haven't been told any details about it.

* When you do something, you expect something back, and the issue is about how you're able to bounce back from that investment.

* I see some people blaming the fans, but..

* I think *lol* it's a problem with the talents y'know..

* Even I had some mental issues this year as well, and so I had decide to go slower this year, so..

* Right now things are very fun, I'm able to enjoy every day.

* But second half of last year I was doing things a little slower.

* We don't really have enough people, so every single person has to work at full-throttle in order for us to improve, that's just how Holostars are as a Box

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* *repeats* that's probably the weakness of Holostars

* If just one or two people go viral and get views, it's still difficult

* Relays and stuff would be more easier

* "new debuts soon?" - chat

* That's also in a negative loop

* *laughs* the resources needed to debut new talents has to be created from current Holostars right?

* The current Holostars have to work hard, create resources, and THEN we will have new debuts

* So.. there's no choice but to work hard.

* It's certainly difficult, we're in a bit of a negative loop with that aspect.

* But it's not like it's impossible.

* There's no choice but for all of us to work hard.

* We'll probably need to have a discussion with everyone about how to move forward.

* But well.. if there's a difficult conversations to be had, everyone just sneakily runs away.

* "oh I'm hungry so I'm dropping off~" and stuff like that *laughs*


Part 2:

https://youtu.be/OOUlWrOg78g?t=8096 (【VCR GTA】ヘリ 船 / アステル) [603:30]

* Well there's people who want to do difficult talks and those who don't want it right?

* Well I kinda HAVE to do it, so I will do it, but..

* Fuma always says "Ah I'm a bit hungry, soo.." and then drops out *laughs*

* And when one person drops out it kinda sets a trend right?

* "Ah then I'll drop off too" and stuff.

* We've never been able to get all 12 of the Holostars members together to have that kind of serious talk, I think

* Well when 12 people have to gather, I guess we have to keep schedules and stuff in mind

* Of course I've been requesting management to arrange something like that as well, but..

* Even after requesting for 2 years we haven't been able to gather, so it is what it is *laughs*..

* Seriously, we asked for 2 whole years "we should have a discussion about this, including all of us and management".

* Till now we haven't been able to gather together.

* Well idk if it's management or the talents that don't have the will to gather, for me at least.

* It's fine to not gather all of them, but at least in groups of 4-5 people to discuss with management y'know

* Telephone games won't be very useful for such discussions y'know

* Well as for me, even 2-3 years back I had a feeling things would end up this way

* I've been saying on stream right? I knew from the past 2-3 years that things would end up this way at some point.

* So this is simply "ah it finally happened" for me.

* From my point of view, this is not anything special. It's just obvious that things would end up this way.

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* But it's not like what fans can do is limited either.

* There's things that the fans can do as well.

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* But yeah if I was an otaku, if something like this happened, I would be like "yeah I'm done" right?

* I don't think any fan likes sudden shocks like this happening to whatever they are following.

* I stopped going to Disney stuff after they stopped having "Jera" shows after all.

* I've been shouting from the rooftops all this time to avoid having sudden shocks like this.

After this he finds his gang and gets into the game.