Randy Credico on Fred Dicker (09/30/2016)

Supplemental document for: "Theory that Roger Stone's back channel to Wikileaks was Randy Credico", link: https://wakelet.com/wake/2d352ae9-febe-44a1-a7bb-51674a2e4bf5

Randy Credico on Fred Dicker, broadcast on September 30, 2016.

Excerpt runs from 24:05 to 40:00 in the file.

Link: http://www.mediafire.com/file/vtf5j10aiaitbza/LFTSC930161.mp3

Fred Dicker, despite his loathing of Roger Stone, is of a hard right political persuasion, and pro-Trump. Randy Credico plays the part of  his soggy and spineless foil, either enthusiastically yes-ing his declarations, or offering up mealy mouthed dissent. All the episodes of "The Fred Dicker Show" on which Credico is guest have this dynamic, and this is no exception.

Program comes back after brief connection overseas with Credico which stops due to audio problems.

FRED DICKER
Let's go back again across the pond with Sir Randy Credico's joining us. Randy. It sounds like a reggae group. How are you?

RANDY CREDICO
[british accent] Hello Fred, how are you doing? I'm doing very well. I just had my muffin and coffee.

DICKER
Very nice. [inaudible due to cross talk]

CREDICO
Everything okay?

DICKER
You been over to Jermyn Street to get a new wardrobe?

CREDICO
Yeah, I definitely should, Fred. But I don't make the kind of bread that you make. [DICKER laughs] You look at WBAI, I'm lucky to get a pair of socks in Chelsea. [laughs]

DICKER
What are you doing in England? In Londonistan, as some people call it now. What do you think?

CREDICO
Well, I'm- I'm here, my very closest comedian friend, Barry Crimmins, we were here exactly thirty years ago. Where we nearly got kicked out because I was drunk and making fun of the monarchy and the queen, and all of that. Cabdrivers didn't like it. Nobody liked it. So, this time I'm well behaved. So, anyway, Barry Crimmins, he's working here. Uuuuuuuuh, in a-

DICKER
Are you going to be performing at all?

CREDICO
[inaudible] there, and-

DICKER
Are you going to perform?

CREDICO
I'm going to have some time tonight...I also came with my friend Bobby...Eisenberg, it's a very quick three day trip. He hasn't gotten here yet, though. You know, it was a Bobby inspired trip. You know, the writer Bobby Eisenberg-

DICKER
Sure.

CREDICO
-who wrote the best seller, _Boychiks in the Hood_ [ link: https://www.amazon.ca/Boychiks-Hood-Travels-Hasidic-Underground/dp/0062512234 ]. So, anyway, he put the whole thing together, so I'm here...in Earls Court. And having a great time. Just for a couple of days, I'm coming back tomorrow.

DICKER
Nice for you. Would you go- I mentioned Jermyn Street, would you go over to Saddle Road, or no?

CREDICO
I- Fred, all I've done is go to Knightsbridge...I've gone to, uh, whatyacallit, Hyde Park...Westminster Abbey, I've just been, you know, here just a couple of days. And I've been to Leicester Square [pronounces it Lee-ster Square], is that what it's called? Leigh-ster Square? That's where Barry has been performing, and that's been an amazing couple of days, Fred. That's all I can tell you. Watching the news here, BBC, I saw that horrendous train...

DICKER
Oh, what a tragic story. No explanation yet of how that could've happened. Over in Jersey transit.

CREDICO
I gotta tell you something, I'm watching BBC and they- Your governor there, Fred, is really embarrassing, this great state of New York, here in London town.

DICKER
I mean, what was he doing in Jersey! [laughs]

CREDICO
What was he doing in Jersey? He was saying the silver lining- [does Andrew Cuomo] "If there's any silver lining to this crash...is that only person died." How is that a silver lining?

DICKER
Yeah, hundred injured. [laughs]

CREDICO
He actually said that, Fred! And they've been playing it over and over [inaudible]

DICKER
Yeah, I saw that. He's saying, given the horrendous nature of it, there could've been many more dead. But I wouldn't call it a silver lining. What I would say is, we're lucky more people didn't die, considering how horrendous it was.

CREDICO
He actually said, Fred, [does Cuomo] "There's a silver lining to all this, only one person died." I don't know how that's a silver lining.

DICKER
-make a very good point.

CREDICO
-where in his brain.

DICKER
Well, I mean, do you get the sense, we've talked about this before, I mean, I have the sense here, now, that he's obsessed with any publicity he could get, probably, in fact, because he's fearful about his declining poll numbers, so he latches onto anything there is, gets that windbreaker out, and heads to New Jersey.

CREDICO
[inaudible] said, he saw an opportunity, and he took it. I don't know what he's doing in New Jersey. I know that Christie should've been there, not him. He's not with New Jersey transit. Like, the other day, he rushed down there...after that...problem in New York. What was he doing, the day after that bombing of New York? You know, he wasn't invited to the press conference with the mayor. And the police commissioner.

DICKER
Did you see that- Did you see the Jimmy Vielkind tweet on this? Yesterday. Did you see that tweet Vielkind sent out?

CREDICO
When?

DICKER
Yesterday. He sent out this tweet, this is what he wrote: "The governor, Andrew Cuomo, was on national TV, talking about a New Jersey train that crashed in New Jersey, the train was not going to New York." You know, I mean, a lot of people took note of that.

CREDICO
-there's a monsoon in Bangladesh. Maybe he should go over there and get some publicity.

DICKER
[laughs] Randy, what...what's your sense of what's in the, besides the New Jersey train crash, as you're watching British television, BBC, and looking at the papers, what's the big story over there? I'll bet they're writing a lot about Trump and Clinton.

CREDICO
Yeah, it's still a big thing here, but the Rosetta- the Rosetta- you know, spaceship, or whatever it's called, that's dominating the news today. There's been some kidnappings here, a lot of local stuff that's pretty heavy that's happening, but also, uh, you know, I've been watching your favorite state, state, or U.S. congressman, Jerrold Nadler...

DICKER
Yeah, what's the story with you and Nadler and civil liberties?

CREDICO
Nadler is out there doing a Joe McCarthy. I cannot believe what he's doing at these hearings [reference to Nadler's questions when Comey testified at Senate Oversight hearings link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypkIJ2JJ-UQ ] It's really embarrassing. For a so-called progressive on the Upper West Side, using McCarthyite like tactics, saying that- whether you like him or not, because I'll be next, I'm in London right now, I know Roger Stone, "Roger Stone has a representative in London meeting with Julian Assange and he's communicating..." and he says, to Comey, "is he under investigation for c-" [communicating with Assange], with a publisher. The guy's a publisher. He's not- He's a publisher. He's not a hacker. A), and B), uh- why is he bringing this up? Why doesn't he focus on Hillary Clinton's use of the CGI, Clinton Global Initiative, and her State Department connections, for pay to play? That's what he should be concerned about.

DICKER
Well, anything that involves Roger Stone, I'd rather pass on. To me-

CREDICO
Yeah, I understand that, but it could be _anybody_, that is seen meeting with f-, "he's meeting with foreign-", uh, agents, or foreign officials? Julian Assange isn't a foreign official. In fact, I can tell you, Roger has no connection at all with him, other than the fact that he may say it at the top of his head, but you know him, he's a lot of braggadocio, and this is an outrage, that this guy-

DICKER
Well.

CREDICO
-could use, because he could use it against me! I'm in London!

DICKER
Yeah.

CREDICO
I've had him [Roger Stone] on my radio show! Am I an agent now?

DICKER
Well, absolutely not. It's ridiculous, and that law [Logan Act] is aimed at diplomacy being carried out between private citizens at variance, you know, with the position of the U.S. government. It goes back to, what, Alien and Sedition Act, 1799 or whatever...

CREDICO
Right, right. 1917. Which has been used more by this president than any president, all of them since Wilson combined...all of them since Wilson combined, great great liberal, uh, civil libertarian president uh-

DICKER
But he was a leading progressive, and we know that the progressives, when it comes to democracy, small d democracy, and liberalism, are antithetical to it. Because they really don't believe in a lot of points of view. They believe in their point of view. And they advocate for civil liberties when it benefits them, and then when they have the chance, they'll crack down on the civil liberties of others, I mean, they're not liberals. They are progressives, they are leftists, and they mean to use the power of government to suppress ideas and speech, we see that on campus, that they don't agree with.

CREDICO
Well, I can tell you right now, I am furious with Jerrold Nadler. He gets the Joe McCarthy award for practicing in modern day-

DICKER
I got a great Jerry Nadler story.

CREDICO
-he's doing modern day redbaiting, and I think-

DICKER
Well, it's not redbaiting.

CREDICO
I expect it, I expect that from reactionary conservatives, not from liberals and Democrats.

DICKER
That's an esoteric point. Can I give my favorite Jerry Nadler story? He used to be [inaudible], rode up and down, up and down, from New York City to Albany. He was a frequent presence, people remember him in the dining car, taking packages of mayonnaise and eating them right out of the package. But putting that aside, he was on the train one day, coming to Albany, and he said to someone, "You know, look across the river there," - Hudson river - "I've always wondered what is that big structure across the way." You know what the punchline is?

CREDICO
Yes.

DICKER
The person says, "You mean...West Point?" [laughs]

CREDICO
Oh, really. It was West Point.

DICKER
He didn't know that that was West Point.

CREDICO
-too busy lifting mayonnaise.

DICKER
Or hanging out at Zabar's.

CREDICO
[pause] Yeah. Yeah.

DICKER
Tell me what are you hearing on the Trump-Clinton front? I mean, many of your friends obviously don't like Donald Trump, but you've talked about the lack of enthusiasm for Hillary Clinton as well. What's the latest sense you have in your New York City world?

CREDICO
Well, I've had Jill Stein on my show for a half hour the other day. Like thirty five minutes. Last Saturday.

DICKER
What do you make of her? A lot of people find her to be really an embarrassing lightweight, but uh- What did you think?

CREDICO
It was quite good Fred. It gives you an alternative to Hillary Clinton. I, of course, will not be voting for Hillary Clinton. I will not be voting for Donald Trump. I will be voting for...you know, there's flaws in Trump, there's flaws with Hillary...the CGI, the millions that she made in Haiti, and the money, and the Syria connection, I'm sure there's going to be a huge dump coming soon from Wikileaks about other crimes that she's committed. And these people, the same way you had Howard Baker and other Republicans finger Nixon in 1974, and they've turned on Nixon, these people should be doing what those guys did, that had the guts to turn on Nixon. Republicans, in 1974...why aren't these Democrats doing the same thing with Hillary? She's done things that are worse than what Nixon did.

DICKER
Well, it really is a shame, and there've been articles written about it, that within the Democratic party now, there really is- there are no voices of dissent. But within the Republican party, which is often criticized as supposedly supportive of suppression of free speech, there's plenty of dissent. And it's tolerated. But at one time, there were moderate Democrats, there were conservative Democrats, Blue Dog Democrats, they don't exist anymore.

CREDICO
No no...whether it be [Elijah] Cummings, or uh uh, Cummings or Nadler, doesn't matter, liberal or conservative Democrats, they're all in line with Hillary Clinton. I guess they're on the gravy train. But as flawed as she is...there's no chance of people denying all this. In fact, I said the other day, if you like Bernie Sanders, the one that's closest to Bernie Sanders, is Jill Stein. If you like Nixon, then vote for Hillary Clinton. I mean, but worse than Nixon, is that she's profited...Saudi Arabia, I mean, the money that she got from Saudi Arabia, how could anybody tolerate that? From the LGBT community-

DICKER
Or feminist activists, I mean-

CREDICO
-women up there should not be supporting her, for taking money from someone like King Fahd, or King whatever his name is now, and from that porcine, vile country called Saudi Arabia, now they're open up to lawsuits, thank god, for 9/11, but I don't know how anybody, women and LGBT, can support Hillary when the majority of her money comes from Saudi Arabia. That's the Clinton Global Initiative.

DICKER
Well, their heads are in the sand. I mean- Randy, they'll focus on problems with the Trump Foundation, and with Donald Trump, and he has plenty of problems that I think he should answer for, but when it comes to their side, Hillary Clinton and Democrats, they put their heads in the sand. And, you know, if there ever was a massive shakedown operation, it was the Clinton Foundation during the time that she was Secretary of State.

CREDICO
Well, you take a look at- it is so clear, the money they made off of Haiti, how could you take money- how could you stiff the Haitian people, who'd gone through two hundred years of hell? And take money after that earthquake, that was supposed to go to them, and then you hear about watered down- They're like Harry Lime from _The Third Man_- a watered down AIDS treatment drug that they were giving to Africa, this is a real bad outfit, people got to confront it, they have nominated a bad candidate. Don't blame me. Blame yourselves for supporting a bad candidate who made tons of money using her power as Secretary of State, using that pay to play, funneling money into the Clinton Global Initiative. And every Democrat like me should say the same thing.

DICKER
We're talking to Randy Credico who's across the pond in London. I assume you flew right over, you didn't take a lovely boat ride, or anything like that?

CREDICO
[laughs] Yeah, I went with Groucho Marx across the pond in a boat ride [inaudible]

DICKER
You didn't go on one of your rich friends' fancy yachts, or go on a Queen Elizabeth...

CREDICO
I took right from Kennedy, nice flight. It was the first time, in years, that I'd been on a flight, that there wasn't a million people on the flight. American Airlines from JFK, it was beautiful. I had a row of seats. You ever get that anymore? A row-

DICKER
Yeah, it's unusual.

CREDICO
-where you can actually sleep?

DICKER
I wonder what the reason for that is. Season?

CREDICO
I think it was Tuesday night. I think that's the reason why. And then I'm going back...I did it right after my radio show, I went straight to the airport, and it was great. [inaudible] Airport's clean. It's a clean city. It really is. It really is. And people are nice.

DICKER
Yeah.

CREDICO
But I just saw some bobbies here, everyone says they don't have arms [guns], not only were they armed, these were two women I just saw by the Natural Museum...the Museum of Natural History...huge, huge edifice, huge and beautiful. Uuuuuh...with machine guns! It's-

DICKER
You mean submachine guns.

CREDICO
...usual. Yeah, submachine guns.

DICKER
That is...well, they're concerned about terrorism, and understandably so.

CREDICO
French embassy, I guess there's a reason. But uh, you know, [inaudible] when I was here thirty years ago. That's the reality though. You know, it's such a diverse culture here. You've got people in burkas, you know, everybody's speaking a different language-

DICKER
Well, London apparently, is now a majority minority, if you can call them minorities, city with uh-

CREDICO
-writer from Upper East Side of New York, I just had a conversation with.

DICKER
And, uh, you just met the person on the street, why do you mention that person?

CREDICO
No, it's just interesting the people you meet. In a traditional Indian garb. She's a writer. I didn't know what her name was [this may have been Jhumpa Lahiri]. But we talked for about five minutes, and the woman said, "Oh, she's a famous writer from the Upper West Side, actually." "I live in Manhattan, I live in Manhattan, 85th Street and Central Park West." So, you do meet a lot of people. It's interesting, everyone is very nice here, Fred. And you know, what can I tell you. [does awful James Mason voice] I've just picked up my James Mason impression, and got away from [does a good Andrew Cuomo] Andrew Cuomo impression, there's a silver lining to all of this, Fred, there's a silver lining! You know...the silver lining is I'm not going to jail!