Samus Fox JMU Video Analysis

Guest 8:57 pm
my mic is still horrible
and haven't bought a headset yet xd
I'm mapache
Me 8:57 pm
is that mapache?
nice
Guest 8:58 pm
no
that sucks
it sucks
I was, it was terrible it worked ONCE
it sucks, it's a mediocre mixup
he said it was a good mixup
it is not
Daydee (Samus) vs Pipsqueak (Fox) - Losers Bracket Sthlm Monthly 2017-04-25
Daydee (Samus) vs Pipsqueak (Fox) - Losers Bracket Sthlm Monthly 2017-04-25 -
Guest 9:01 pm
samus fox
hype
sergei vs someone
Guest 9:04 pm
it is not
he can mixup his ff timing
oh wait
go a little back
didn't see that
sideb immediately, really the fox shpuld have just sideb to the ledge
he had it free, and yeah probably he could get that charge shot, but given he read sideb with wd back, it was kind alate to do the charge shot
yeah you can't beat it that way
you have to do it preemptive, or move back or cc, or shield
why does he do shine oos against spaced ftilt xd
Guest 9:08 pm
look it there
it makes no sense
it's nt the first he's done
yes with wd oos shine
but shine oos doesn't do anything but waste frames
Guest 9:10 pm
who has joined
Me 9:10 pm
make sure u join discord voice chat whoever u are
Guest 9:12 pm
why are we going frame by frame?
yeah going back to platform isn't the best
Guest 9:13 pm
yeah there you just go and hit them
that same nair, but earlier
and deeper
like the best thing samus can do there is not going doing (but you are putting in a 50/50 where you won't ever win)
if they read you staying there, and they do this nair, nothing happens (not enough lag for us to punish it), if they read staying and we godown, it is ok for fox as well
dude serioulsy not even pros can punihs samus' uptilt
people suck
xd
it is so easy it' really laggy
I like how daydee bombs down
Guest 9:16 pm
he drifts forwawrds, and then back
yeah
look these ones
thatsucks in my opinion
tech chasing with grab is terrible
Guest 9:18 pm
so something dayde didn't do there
thehypertroller 9:18 pm
they can honestly just short hop over the grab to. as long as they get into the air any amount they wont get grabbed by the beam
Guest 9:18 pm
that samus can do once in a while when fox hard commits to bairs from ledge is, the grapple jump
and you have a lot of drift mixups there
it works when they hard commit to the bairs pipsqueak is doing
oh sweet bair
depends
no one does it, xd never have I ever seen anyone do real reaction techchase at low percents with samus
duck will do dash attack reaction tech chase, but that isn't real
Guest 9:21 pm
plup defintely does read based tech chases
and he is really good at them
Guest 9:23 pm
yeah one wd
he should do one, and then react to the tech away if he was expecting that
yeah techchasing fox works not like against falco  I never reach in time and always end up ftilt their shield
for fox players a sec back,
he did reaction punish against uptilt with dash attack, it is really good
worry about asdi down because they can do that during uptilt (at least I do, hugs does too)
not that he SHOULD, but they can in that given situation for example (they can with shine xd)
if he isn't going to waveshine oos, then just grab
he can do shine oos->waveshine, but just grab, or upsmash
at low percents we can amsah tech upsmash but so the optimal there is shine oos->wd, or just grab
Guest 9:28 pm
Idon't like the dash attacks daydee is doing, they look like mapache dash attacks
oh so there he went for the anti firestall
getting hit by it
little back
Guest 9:30 pm
samus can do another thing about it though, upair, they won't be frame perfect, so upair which is active a good bunch, can move them out of there
though if they do it perfect you've wasted your dj and below them xd
go back a sec
when he did the uptilt on shield
on the left
ok slow mo that situation please
so there I do sh/fh->nair as a callout of them doing waveland to get out of the corner, plup does it too (duck I think too)
but pipsqueak did something different
no no, from shield to get out of the corner
after he got hit by uptilt
Guest 9:32 pm
yeah I feel pipsqueak did something to even beat that
and safe against cc <3
not against amsah tech but whatever xd
so plup I think does it and so does duck, sh->nair will cover them trying to move forwards with wd oos and them doing waveland
both
so there samus jump
in place, not forwards, forwards would catch that but it is a hard commit
yes!!
that's the thing that pipsqueak did interesting
yeha that would cover
Guest 9:36 pm
the jump really
that was really good
the bair would have hit us yes
the hugs!!!
guys I'll leave in about 5 minutes S:
bubba let's do another one of these xd I think it'd be good doing one of the top top samus (one for each)
it is worthy, it is the most important matchup in the game
yeah those wd daydee was doing weren't baiting anythign at that distance it was good dash attack
that dsmash was guaranteed=
?
Guest 9:40 pm
I don't think so?
this one
yes
nah
it wasn't
he turned around
fox turned around,
he was active
the DI
YEAH but he didn't DI it XD I would charge as well
Guest 9:41 pm
but he should have survived
dude look at that sick cc by pipsqueak
not yet
there
yeah it is broken if you do that, we can only dsmash really
as an approach
no
there daydee
should have grabbed ledge
and bair
Guest 9:44 pm
yeah depends sometimes one has to read the angle but that one he should have ended it
that's the classic
Guest 9:45 pm
I feel like dayddee is spamming way too much on the corner
yeah what happened here
that's sick XD that's kinda guaranteed
duck and hugs would do jabs here
but this looks way better
yeah they lose against asdi down
that is sick xd I'll add to notes
thehypertroller 9:48 pm
gonna eat dinner
Guest 9:48 pm
yo bubba I'm going it was good though short
nice talking  I'll buy the headset this week I promise XD
Me 9:52 pm
.Dang, I think I lost my connection to Discord
Christian 9:53 pm
that seems to be the case
Me 9:53 pm
OK, I think this will be a good spot to cut it
Yeah, I can't get back in for some reason
Guest 9:53 pm
Really kind of early. Maybe just take a break
Christian 9:54 pm
ok sounds good hope the inertwebs improve
Me 9:54 pm
Well, 2.5 hours to cover 4 sets isn't really that short, tbh.
And Mapache, and moss, and quarantine had to leave
Plus we're gonna do another one of these to cover the top samus players later
at a later time
so this could be more 'part 1' so to speak
Guest 9:56 pm
Oh okay. If there's a second analysis yeah just end this one.
Christian 9:56 pm
way ahead of you >_>
Me 9:57 pm
Thanks a lot, Flip!
Christian 9:57 pm
glad i could be of service!

So just in case I never end up getting back to the last game of Daydee vs Pipsqueak, what I think I was immediately talking about when I disconnected was how Pip was really good at refreshing his invuln with firefox stalls while Samus was far away and then rinsing and repeating his edgeguards with ledgehop bair into immediate WD to ledge.  He knocked Daydee out of many of his tethers and upBs and accumulated a lot of % that way.