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  1. VancocinLast Thursday at 7:41 PM
  2. yo
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  4. prowzYesterday at 1:37 AM
  5. hi
  6. not sure whether i'll play
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  8. VancocinYesterday at 12:02 PM
  9. Hey pimp, you should play. But uh, I just wanted to talk to you about your thoughts on tank shit. I’ve not played warrior for about 2 years and am a bit behind the meta
  10. If you feel me
  11. Specifically Pre-bis gear, I’m under the impression you would suggest playing the fury build right away?
  12. 3/31/17?
  13. With 2 in dw spec in fury, dunno if that’s still a thing or not
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  15. prowzYesterday at 12:06 PM
  16. https://classicdb.ch/?talent#LhZVV0VLxoVoxfzox
  17. you can go 1/3 imp heroic and 2/2 imp taunt if you want, it's good especially in mc where you can taunt everything
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  19. and you can go 3/5 iron will instead of 3/5 toughness for random resists on lava packs and stuff
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  21. VancocinYesterday at 12:07 PM
  22. Yes nice
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  24. prowzYesterday at 12:07 PM
  25. spec i linked is what i'd play, but those variations are just as viable / good, it's just personal preference
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  27. VancocinYesterday at 12:07 PM
  28. Good points, thx. Never played warrior in MC/BWl era
  29. Do you not like imp execute?
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  31. prowzYesterday at 12:08 PM
  32. no because at that point in the fight your threat doesn't matter 99% of the time
  33. keeping aggro is mostly about the first 10 seconds
  34. dealing with the small sample size and the fact that there's 20 furies hitting the boss and 1 tank
  35. at least 1 of those 20 is going to get luckier than you and crit more and miss less
  36. but after the first 10 or 15 seconds the rng will even out a bit and you'll pull ahead in threat
  37. so by the time you're at execute phase, your threat doesn't matter anyways
  38. also, in mc, you get like 1 or 2 executes on bosses other than rag. if you're tanking, you should pool rage on trash rather than executing it
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  40. VancocinYesterday at 12:15 PM
  41. Copy that
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  43. prowzYesterday at 12:15 PM
  44. for itemizing, i kinda changed my mindset in aq and on
  45. before that, i was just picking threat items like a fury would pick dps items
  46. but i realized ap really doesn't do much for you
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  48. VancocinYesterday at 12:16 PM
  49. As tank?
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  51. prowzYesterday at 12:16 PM
  52. yeah
  53. as a tank, it's not so much about your average threat production
  54.  
  55. VancocinYesterday at 12:16 PM
  56. Right
  57. It’s about frontloading that shit
  58.  
  59. prowzYesterday at 12:16 PM
  60. it's more about the distribution of your threat production
  61. yea exactly
  62. and median is more important than mean
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  64. VancocinYesterday at 12:16 PM
  65. So crit and weapon skill?
  66.  
  67. prowzYesterday at 12:16 PM
  68. softcap hit and stack crit imo
  69. and have a 2nd gear set with a lot of hit for trash and when you need to pull a boss with 0 rage
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  71. VancocinYesterday at 12:17 PM
  72. Cool
  73. I think edgemastwrs gonna be quite nice
  74. 28% glancing reduction, .7% less parry .7% less dodge, 3% hit
  75. Thoughts?
  76. Do you have a horde Pre-bis tanking set? What weapon would you use as troll before Mc?
  77.  
  78. prowzYesterday at 12:19 PM
  79. i think edgemasters are nice if you can get them yeah
  80.  
  81. VancocinYesterday at 12:20 PM
  82. I’m poopsocking, I’ll get them
  83.  
  84. prowzYesterday at 12:20 PM
  85. i think double felstrikers will be the best setup before thunderfury
  86. it depends on their procrate but if 1 of them procs at the start, you are guaranteed to have aggro
  87. no other weapon can do that
  88.  
  89. VancocinYesterday at 12:20 PM
  90. Better than claw?
  91. Interesting
  92.  
  93. prowzYesterday at 12:20 PM
  94. depends on procrates of claw, ironfoe, and ed
  95.  
  96. VancocinYesterday at 12:20 PM
  97. Right
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  99. prowzYesterday at 12:20 PM
  100. i think ed is a bit too slow of a weapon without its proc though, so even if it has a great procrate i think it's not good for tanks
  101. i think ironfoe proc is op and bursty enough to make it worth using still if its procrate is very high
  102. but yeah if any of the proc weapons are op then it's hard to beat them
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  104. VancocinYesterday at 12:22 PM
  105. Ironfoe drop rate looking like .1%
  106. Unfarmable tbh
  107. On average need 1k runs, that’s unreal
  108. Or exploit ofc
  109. Might do that
  110.  
  111. prowzYesterday at 12:23 PM
  112. well it needs an insane procrate to be worth tanking with, because it's so slow
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  114. VancocinYesterday at 12:23 PM
  115. Right
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  117. prowzYesterday at 12:23 PM
  118. felstrikers on the other hand are nice and fast with decent dps
  119. and the proc is insane when it happens
  120. so even if the procrate is low i think they'll be good
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  122. VancocinYesterday at 12:23 PM
  123. That’s a really good point. Did you ever try that on Kronos?
  124.  
  125. prowzYesterday at 12:23 PM
  126. i used fs in offhand until i got maladath with tf
  127.  
  128. VancocinYesterday at 12:24 PM
  129. Nice
  130.  
  131. prowzYesterday at 12:24 PM
  132. in hindsight, i should have used it in mainhand
  133. with some random weapon in offhand
  134.  
  135. VancocinYesterday at 12:24 PM
  136. Gotcha
  137.  
  138. prowzYesterday at 12:24 PM
  139. also it depends how sit for enrage works, but slow offhand might be preferable
  140.  
  141. VancocinYesterday at 12:24 PM
  142. Sit for enrage doesn’t work
  143.  
  144. prowzYesterday at 12:24 PM
  145. since you want to preserve your enrage stacks instead of eating them up with a quick offhand
  146.  
  147. VancocinYesterday at 12:24 PM
  148. :frowning:
  149. Yeah so slow wep ideal
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  151. prowzYesterday at 12:25 PM
  152. from what i've heard, it can work if you're sitting down, and stand up during the same spell batch in which the boss hits you
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  154. VancocinYesterday at 12:26 PM
  155. Excellent information. Thanks
  156.  
  157. prowzYesterday at 12:26 PM
  158. np
  159.  
  160. VancocinYesterday at 12:27 PM
  161. Troll vs orc, you think troll is the autist drafonslauer race?
  162.  
  163. prowzYesterday at 12:27 PM
  164. troll is unbeatable, 30% haste is insane
  165. i mean you know how all the spreadsheet warriors love kiss of the spider
  166. kots is only 20% and uses one of your trinket slots
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  168. VancocinYesterday at 12:28 PM
  169. It’s actually 10-43%
  170.  
  171. prowzYesterday at 12:28 PM
  172. pretty insane to get that for free
  173.  
  174. VancocinYesterday at 12:28 PM
  175. And confirmed not a bug
  176.  
  177. prowzYesterday at 12:28 PM
  178. it scales up to 43%?
  179.  
  180. VancocinYesterday at 12:28 PM
  181. Yep
  182.  
  183. prowzYesterday at 12:28 PM
  184. bige
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