Victor the psycopath

 20:57 - Kobra: https://www.dropbox.com/s/yq54v7aeqes5xe0/2013-11-18%2011.49.13.mp4
20:57 - Kobra: aww :3
20:58 - Victormeriqui: that up down paw thing
20:58 - Victormeriqui: its fucked
20:58 - Kobra: happy pawing
20:58 - Victormeriqui: my cats do it too
20:58 - Victormeriqui: dunno why
20:58 - Kobra: it's called happy pawing
20:58 - Kobra: and it's cause
20:58 - Kobra: when they're born
20:58 - Kobra: they do that on their moms tits to get milk out
20:58 - Kobra: or something
20:58 - Kobra: Kneading
20:58 - Kobra: called this i think
20:59 - Kobra: It is a sign that she loves you and you make her feel happy. Pawing is what kittens do to their mama's when they nurse. Even though they stop nursing, they continue pawing. It is related to the warm fuzzy feeling they had when they nursed on mama.
20:59 - Victormeriqui: lol it's prob just for food
20:59 - Kobra: Kneading is an activity common to all domestic cats whereby, when in a state of ease, they alternately push out and pull in their front paws, often alternating between right and left limbs. Some cats actually appear to "nurse" or suck on clothing or bedding during kneading.
20:59 - Kobra: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_behavior#Kneading
21:00 - Kobra: tl'dr, it's happy
21:00 - Victormeriqui: dunno
21:00 - Victormeriqui: people say shit like that all time
21:00 - Victormeriqui: like
21:00 - Victormeriqui: dogs wang their tails
21:00 - Victormeriqui: cause they're happy
21:01 - Victormeriqui: etvc
21:01 - Kobra: well, it's like they purr
21:01 - Victormeriqui: but you cnat know
21:01 - Kobra: it's affectionet
21:01 - Kobra: same thing
21:01 - Victormeriqui: and
21:01 - Kobra: just their language
21:01 - Victormeriqui: purring != happy
21:01 - Kobra: majority of time it is tho
21:01 - Victormeriqui: purring has many uses for them
21:01 - Kobra: well, it purrs most when it comes in
21:01 - Kobra: eventually it starts happy pawing something
21:01 - Kobra: and sleeps
21:01 - Kobra: lol
21:01 - Victormeriqui: iirc
21:01 - Victormeriqui: the frequency they purr in
21:02 - Victormeriqui: increases their bone density
21:02 - Kobra: hm
21:02 - Kobra: but, either way, they do it when they're comfortable at least
21:02 - Kobra: right before they sleep
21:02 - Victormeriqui: yh i guess
21:02 - Victormeriqui: still can never know
21:03 - Kobra: well, it's highly likley it's anything else
21:03 - Kobra: stroke a cat when it's wagging tale
21:03 - Kobra: wait for them claws to come out
21:03 - Kobra: if it was un happy, it would claw
21:03 - Kobra: he's so cute though
21:03 - Kobra: was alseep on the end of my bed for about 3 hours
21:04 - Kobra: until my step sister woke up
21:04 - Kobra: and got it into her room with treats
21:04 - Kobra: lol
21:04 - Kobra: she is very selfish
21:04 - Kobra: doesn't like to share
21:04 - Kobra: i let the cat go where it wants
21:04 - Victormeriqui: lol
21:04 - Kobra: but she tries to goad it into her room
21:04 - Kobra: so
21:04 - Kobra: she steals stuff a lot
21:04 - Kobra: so me and my mom venture in and be nosey
21:05 - Kobra: we found LOADS of cat food
21:05 - Kobra: lol
21:05 - Kobra: she feeds it in her room, but didn't tell anyone
21:05 - Kobra: so when the cat "always wants to go in her room", it's because "she's nice"
21:05 - Kobra: in reality it's 'cause it wants the food
21:05 - Kobra: lol
21:06 - Kobra: but, you know those long meat sticks?
21:06 - Victormeriqui: cats mostly think you're a big hairless cat anyway
21:06 - Kobra: the cat goes MENTAL
21:06 - Kobra: for thme
21:06 - Kobra: it was asleep on my bed
21:06 - Kobra: like, flat out
21:06 - Kobra: she came into my room
21:06 - Kobra: woke it up
21:07 - Kobra: stroked it first, so it looke dup
21:07 - Kobra: then she tried to "shake" his paw
21:07 - Kobra: so he got up, repossitioned
21:07 - Kobra: and lay back down
21:07 - Kobra: she went back into her room
21:07 - Kobra: come out with a treet
21:07 - Kobra: and started flapping it at the cat
21:07 - Kobra: and coaxed it into her room
21:07 - Kobra: lol
21:08 - Victormeriqui: cats here just go where ever they want, they're annoying many times too
21:08 - Victormeriqui: i close my door at night else the fuckers wont let me sleep
21:08 - Kobra: ya, i let it come in, go out, etc...
21:08 - Kobra: if i were to go into her room
21:08 - Kobra: wake the cat up
21:08 - Kobra: offer it a treat
21:08 - Kobra: but back up
21:08 - Kobra: all way into my room
21:08 - Kobra: alice would be going "WTF?"
21:09 - Kobra: you'know
21:09 - Kobra: she has loads of double standards
21:09 - Kobra: and is super childish and selfish
21:09 - Kobra: like, she doesn't have the goulden rule
21:09 - Kobra: "Do unto others as you would do to yourself"
21:09 - Victormeriqui: golden rule?
21:09 - Kobra: or something
21:10 - Kobra: basically
21:10 - Victormeriqui: thats bullshit lol
21:10 - Kobra: if you wouldn't like it done to you, don't do it to others
21:10 - Kobra: and why?
21:10 - Victormeriqui: theres loads of stuff i'd like to do to others and wouldn't like to be done to myself
21:10 - Kobra: exactly
21:10 - Kobra: so don't do it
21:10 - Victormeriqui: no you cant
21:10 - Kobra: ?
21:11 - Victormeriqui: you prob do everyday
21:11 - Kobra: like?
21:11 - Victormeriqui: i dont know idk your day
21:11 - Victormeriqui: but
21:11 - Victormeriqui: you know
21:11 - Victormeriqui: theres loads
21:11 - Kobra: excample?
21:11 - Victormeriqui: of stuff like that
21:11 - Victormeriqui: and you prob do without realising
21:11 - Victormeriqui: like
21:11 - Victormeriqui: calling someone a retard randomly
21:11 - Victormeriqui: like
21:11 - Victormeriqui: idk
21:11 - Victormeriqui: see fag on street
21:11 - Victormeriqui: hahaha what a fag
21:11 - Kobra: i don't call people anything
21:11 - Kobra: i don't do that
21:11 - Kobra: i wouldn't like it vice versa
21:11 - Victormeriqui: was example
21:11 - Kobra: so i don't do to anyone else
21:12 - Victormeriqui: but
21:12 - Kobra: i don't do anything i wouldn't like done to myself, to others
21:12 - Victormeriqui: humans dont work like that, you prob do it
21:12 - Victormeriqui: i do it way too much i think but idc
21:12 - Kobra: it's a moral
21:12 - Kobra: my mom put it into me
21:12 - Kobra: my dad, however, doesn't have it
21:12 - Kobra: eg
21:12 - Kobra: i baught a game from a shop
21:12 - Kobra: and i broke it
21:12 - Kobra: my dad said to me
21:13 - Kobra: take it back, and hand it in as second hand
21:13 - Victormeriqui: lol
21:13 - Kobra: (it was a small scratch, and crashed on a loading screen of a level in GTA)
21:13 - Victormeriqui: did you?
21:13 - Kobra: but
21:13 - Kobra: i told him
21:14 - Kobra: "no, imagine if a kid was to get SA from 2nd hand for christmas, they put it in to play and it crashes, how would the kid feel?"
21:14 - Victormeriqui: he'd prob turn it back too?
21:14 - Kobra: but the kid would be distraught
21:14 - Victormeriqui: do you know the kid?
21:14 - Kobra: sure, they'd get a replacement
21:15 - Kobra: and it's irrelvant
21:15 - Victormeriqui: it doesnt matter, as long as it's not you
21:15 - Kobra: if i know the kid
21:15 - Kobra: the point is
21:15 - Kobra: i wouldn't like it done to me, so i wont do it to others
21:15 - Kobra: now, online
21:15 - Kobra: oh no, im not like that online, where nothing of value is lost (including time)
21:15 - Victormeriqui: breaking this rule is the only way to get better stuff than others
21:15 - Kobra: bullshit
21:16 - Kobra: it's what holds our society together
21:16 - Kobra: it's the point of commonlaw
21:16 - Kobra: you wouldn't like X done to you, so don't do X to others
21:16 - Kobra: eg, rob, murder, ...
21:16 - Victormeriqui: really because im sure the us government wouldnt like to be spied on
21:17 - Kobra: yeah, two wrongs don't make a right
21:17 - Victormeriqui: no right or wrong
21:17 - Victormeriqui: just stuff
21:17 - Victormeriqui: its how stuff works, the world isnt pretty
21:17 - Kobra: okay, doing to others they wouldn't like, because it's done to you, doesn't make it the right thing to do
21:17 - Kobra: you don't spy on them
21:17 - Kobra: you charge them
21:17 - Kobra: or try to
21:18 - Victormeriqui: brb dinner but i wanna continue this so brb
21:30 - Victormeriqui: bk
21:30 - Victormeriqui: there»?
21:30 - Kobra: yh
21:31 - Victormeriqui: i dont think
21:31 - Victormeriqui: any one is not selfish
21:31 - Victormeriqui: everything must be in trade of something
21:31 - Victormeriqui: even if you dont realize it
21:31 - Victormeriqui: like
21:31 - Victormeriqui: doing something for someone with nothing in return
21:31 - Victormeriqui: you are prob trading that something for emotional value
21:31 - Victormeriqui: for later use with that person
21:31 - Victormeriqui: i think
21:32 - Victormeriqui: if you follow that golden rule very stricylu
21:32 - Victormeriqui: strictly
21:32 - Victormeriqui: youll end up fucked
21:32 - Victormeriqui: always doing the "good" thing
21:33 - Kobra: uh no
21:33 - Kobra: you just don't do things to people you wouldn't like done to yourslef
21:33 - Kobra: it's simple
21:33 - Victormeriqui: and that is always do the "good" thing
21:33 - Victormeriqui: im assuming you dont like bad things happening to you
21:34 - Kobra: exactly
21:34 - Victormeriqui: but
21:34 - Victormeriqui: if you always do the good thing
21:34 - Victormeriqui: youll end up at the bottom
21:34 - Kobra: then so be it
21:34 - Kobra: we come into this world with nothing, and we go out of it with nothing
21:34 - Victormeriqui: not worth it
21:34 - Victormeriqui: i'd rather live
21:34 - Kobra: at least i know i've tried to make this place better for everyone else
21:35 - Kobra: what?
21:35 - Victormeriqui: you shouldnt care too much about others
21:35 - Kobra: you'd rather go around hurting people?
21:35 - Kobra: why?
21:35 - Kobra: then you get anachy
21:35 - Victormeriqui: didnt say that
21:35 - Kobra: crime everywhere
21:35 - Victormeriqui: but if thats what it takes to make me happy
21:35 - Victormeriqui: then yes
21:35 - Victormeriqui: for all you know we could all be robots so why care too much about others
21:36 - Kobra: then you're selfish
21:36 - Victormeriqui: yes
21:36 - Victormeriqui: the happier people
21:36 - Victormeriqui: are selfish
21:36 - Victormeriqui: always
21:36 - Kobra: hope you're proud of yourself
21:36 - Victormeriqui: the ones with power
21:36 - Kobra: and what?
21:36 - Kobra: no
21:36 - Victormeriqui: are selfish
21:36 - Kobra: citation
21:36 - Kobra: please
21:36 - Victormeriqui: it makes sense
21:36 - Victormeriqui: if you have power
21:36 - Victormeriqui: you're a politician
21:36 - Kobra: it's a hypothoses
21:36 - Kobra: haha
21:36 - Victormeriqui: a really rich power
21:36 - Kobra: rich people
21:36 - Victormeriqui: etc
21:36 - Kobra: arn't happy like u think
21:37 - Kobra: having money doesn't make you happy
21:37 - Victormeriqui: yes  i know money != happines
21:37 - Victormeriqui: but money = power
21:37 - Victormeriqui: and with power you can get happiness
21:37 - Kobra: erm, how?
21:37 - Kobra: you can get more money with power
21:37 - Kobra: that's bout it
21:37 - Victormeriqui: with power you have more freedom
21:38 - Victormeriqui: to do what you want
21:38 - Victormeriqui: more power = more freedom
21:38 - Kobra: ...?
21:38 - Victormeriqui: erm
21:38 - Victormeriqui: example
21:38 - Victormeriqui: you wanna be a pilot
21:38 - Kobra: but, remeber
21:38 - Kobra: those rich people get there
21:38 - Victormeriqui: if you dont have $$ you wont be a pilot
21:38 - Kobra: by trampling on people
21:38 - Victormeriqui: not all, but yes most
21:38 - Victormeriqui: which was what i was sayinhg
21:39 - Victormeriqui: people with power are selfish
21:39 - Kobra: then those are bad people
21:39 - Victormeriqui: and people with power can be happier
21:39 - Victormeriqui: doesnt matter, they have more power
21:39 - Victormeriqui: good or bad doesnt matter
21:39 - Kobra: if they wasn't there
21:39 - Kobra: no one would need to do that shit
21:39 - Kobra: those bad people
21:39 - Kobra: probably try to get morepower
21:39 - Kobra: greedy
21:39 - Kobra: selfish
21:39 - Victormeriqui: yes
21:39 - Kobra: take those out of the eqasion
21:39 - Kobra: everything is solved, mostly
21:39 - Victormeriqui: no
21:39 - Victormeriqui: then everyone is mostly equal
21:39 - Victormeriqui: someone will rise up
21:39 - Kobra: ya
21:39 - Kobra: no
21:40 - Victormeriqui: and the cycle begins agani
21:40 - Kobra: that person is removed
21:40 - Kobra: no
21:40 - Kobra: if you're brought up with that moral
21:40 - Kobra: you won't
21:40 - Victormeriqui: and why do you think everyone being equal is good?
21:40 - Kobra: and
21:40 - Kobra: people won't be equal
21:40 - Kobra: no
21:40 - Kobra: i don't
21:40 - Kobra: but
21:40 - Kobra: someone will get rich by doing something good
21:40 - Kobra: eg, invent something
21:41 - Victormeriqui: there's always a bad thing about everything
21:41 - Kobra: the way to solve this problem
21:41 - Kobra: is to exile those who step on people
21:41 - Victormeriqui: and you can't solve this problem
21:41 - Victormeriqui: humans are like this
21:41 - Kobra: society needs to say no to them
21:41 - Victormeriqui: people are selfish
21:41 - Victormeriqui: everyone is
21:41 - Kobra: no
21:41 - Kobra: people who are raised in a certain way are selfish
21:42 - Victormeriqui: i wouldnt mind trampling on a few million if it'd get me enourmous power
21:42 - Victormeriqui: and im betting the majority wouldnt either
21:42 - Kobra: maybe it's a good idea for religion to stick around
21:42 - Kobra: it was used before
21:42 - Victormeriqui: its all relative to how much power
21:42 - Kobra: people thought they'd go to hell
21:42 - Kobra: if they done bad to others
21:42 - Victormeriqui: you're willing to go bad for
21:42 - Kobra: if they can't do it for them being good
21:43 - Kobra: atleast do it so they think they're not going to a bad palce (hell)
21:43 - Victormeriqui: yeah sawing someone in half by doing gods work
21:43 - Victormeriqui: good stuff
21:43 - Kobra: i never said christianity
21:43 - Victormeriqui: fair enough
21:43 - Victormeriqui: but
21:43 - Victormeriqui: still
21:43 - Kobra: fuck christianity
21:43 - Victormeriqui: everyone has a threshold
21:43 - Kobra: fuck islam
21:43 - Victormeriqui: how much power
21:44 - Victormeriqui: are you willing to go bad for
21:44 - Kobra: eh, honestly, power in a few restricts the citizens power
21:44 - Kobra: hoping you get the power, and with it, the freedom
21:44 - Kobra: is like the lottory
21:44 - Victormeriqui: citizens have no power most of the time
21:44 - Kobra: yeah, we do
21:44 - Kobra: we just have power in groups
21:44 - Victormeriqui: too many people = too many different views
21:44 - Kobra: the rich an dpowerfull are powerless against a group/idea
21:45 - Victormeriqui: yeah
21:45 - Victormeriqui: then they take down the rich
21:45 - Victormeriqui: and new ones just rise up again
21:45 - Victormeriqui: just with a different set of books
21:45 - Kobra: that doesn't make it right for you to do
21:45 - Kobra: though
21:45 - Kobra: educate people when they're younge
21:45 - Victormeriqui: there's no right
21:45 - Kobra: young
21:45 - Victormeriqui: or wrong
21:45 - Victormeriqui: why is it wrong
21:45 - Kobra: brain wash them with morals
21:45 - Kobra: (all form of learning as a child, is brain washing)
21:46 - Victormeriqui: alright
21:46 - Victormeriqui: would you kill someone
21:46 - Victormeriqui: you dont know
21:46 - Victormeriqui: for a trillion euros
21:46 - Kobra: no
21:46 - Victormeriqui: why
21:46 - Kobra: because i wouldn't kill anyone, for any amount of money that ahsn't wronged me
21:46 - Victormeriqui: why
21:46 - Kobra: because, as i said, i wouldn't like it if i was it that persons pair of shoes
21:47 - Victormeriqui: yeah but you never would
21:47 - Kobra: i know
21:47 - Kobra: it doesn't matter
21:47 - Victormeriqui: why is it wrong to kill that person for 1 trillion €
21:47 - Kobra: it's not the point
21:47 - Kobra: are you a psycopath or something?
21:47 - Victormeriqui: no
21:47 - Kobra: do you not feel for other people?
21:47 - Victormeriqui: not very
21:48 - Kobra: yeah, that's like, psycopath behavoiour
21:48 - Victormeriqui: no its just being selfish
21:48 - Kobra: so like
21:48 - Kobra: if it was dark
21:48 - Kobra: or
21:48 - Kobra: a person ran out between a set of parked cars
21:48 - Kobra: and you hit and killed them
21:48 - Kobra: you wouldn't feel bad?
21:48 - Victormeriqui: depends on the person
21:48 - Kobra: wow
21:48 - Kobra: holy shit
21:49 - Kobra: get yourself to a psyciatrist
21:49 - Victormeriqui: what
21:49 - Victormeriqui: what if it was hitler
21:49 - Kobra: that's not normal
21:49 - Victormeriqui: it depends on the perosn
21:49 - Kobra: just your average joe
21:49 - Victormeriqui: differnt persons will give different reactions
21:49 - Victormeriqui: well i'd prob feel bad but i wouldnt have a break down and shit like you see in the movies
21:49 - Victormeriqui: i'd deal with it
21:49 - Kobra: different people
21:49 - Kobra: not persons
21:50 - Kobra: person = singular, people = plural
21:50 - Victormeriqui: ok
21:50 - Kobra: but, either way
21:50 - Victormeriqui: if it was someone i know i'd prob feel badder
21:50 - Kobra: i wouldn't do to others that i wouldn't like done to myself
21:50 - Victormeriqui: but this might sound physico but i'd first think about myself
21:50 - Kobra: it's really simple
21:50 - Victormeriqui: and how not to get caught
21:50 - Victormeriqui: and shit
21:51 - Kobra: i'd feel so guilty if i did
21:51 - Kobra: ifi killed a person for 1 trillion €
21:51 - Victormeriqui: i wouldnt
21:51 - Kobra: imagine the persons family
21:51 - Kobra: how they would feel
21:51 - Victormeriqui: doesnt matter
21:51 - Kobra: yes it does matter
21:51 - Victormeriqui: the car thing sure, i'd gain nothing from it
21:51 - Victormeriqui: but 1 trillion €
21:51 - Kobra: "today you, tommorow me"
21:52 - Kobra: you understand that?
21:52 - Victormeriqui: yes
21:52 - Victormeriqui: except things dont work like that
21:52 - Kobra: except they do
21:52 - Victormeriqui: karma doesnt exists
21:52 - Kobra: only with people like you, does it break down
21:52 - Victormeriqui: exist
21:52 - Kobra: karma isn't a *thing*
21:52 - Kobra: it isn't an enittiy
21:52 - Kobra: it's an idea
21:52 - Kobra: a concept
21:53 - Kobra: you help someone
21:53 - Kobra: and when you're down
21:53 - Kobra: someone helps you
21:53 - Victormeriqui: there's no karma, it's just coincidences. Doing something bad does not ever mean something bad will happen to you
21:53 - Kobra: no
21:53 - Kobra: you don'tg et me
21:53 - Kobra: karma isn't real
21:53 - Victormeriqui: theres no right or wrong
21:53 - Kobra: it's a CONCEPT
21:53 - Kobra: concepts don't exist
21:53 - Kobra: it's an idea
21:53 - Kobra: the point is
21:53 - Kobra: you see someone with a boroken down car
21:53 - Kobra: you help them
21:54 - Kobra: then when it's your turn, hopefulyl someone else is in the same shoes you were once in, and helps you
21:54 - Victormeriqui: you help them for something in return even if you dont realize it
21:54 - Kobra: yeah, sure
21:54 - Kobra: that makes it bad?
21:54 - Kobra: you work at a job for something in return
21:54 - Victormeriqui: no, it isnt good or bad
21:54 - Kobra: that return
21:54 - Victormeriqui: and that return isnt him helping you
21:54 - Kobra: is feeling good, and the hopes that a future person helps you
21:54 - Victormeriqui: its the feel you get from helping them
21:54 - Victormeriqui: the drugs in your brain
21:55 - Victormeriqui: being released
21:55 - Victormeriqui: you dont know if youll ever be in that situation its irrelevant
21:56 - Victormeriqui: the only non selfish thing i can think of
21:56 - Victormeriqui: is dieing for someone
21:56 - Victormeriqui: but you have to love someone very much to do that
21:56 - Victormeriqui: and i dont
21:57 - Kobra: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYRS4FQXZrk
21:57 - Kobra: watch this, all of it
21:57 - Kobra: please
21:59 - Kobra: seriously, who cars if your kidness never "repays" at least you made the world a better place
22:00 - Kobra: cares*
22:00 - Victormeriqui: how
22:00 - Victormeriqui: how have you made it a better place by saving someones life
22:00 - Kobra: maybe your sentance answered your own question
22:01 - Victormeriqui: saving someone's life != making the world a better place
22:01 - Victormeriqui: and what is making the world a better place?
22:01 - Kobra: maybe
22:01 - Victormeriqui: all of this is subjective
22:01 - Kobra: but it's sure as hell worth a try
22:01 - Victormeriqui: what is making the world a better place?
22:01 - Victormeriqui: better place for whom?
22:02 - Kobra: for society, for the place we live in
22:02 - Kobra: it raises moral
22:02 - Victormeriqui: so
22:02 - Victormeriqui: for you?
22:03 - Kobra: for everyone
22:03 - Kobra: including me, yes
22:03 - Victormeriqui: what if that makes it a worse place for some
22:03 - Kobra: how is that?
22:03 - Kobra: helping people makes it worse for some?
22:03 - Victormeriqui: yes
22:03 - Kobra: how
22:04 - Victormeriqui: you're thinking too subjectively
22:04 - Victormeriqui: by saving someone's life
22:04 - Victormeriqui: you can have made it possible for that person to make someone's else life worse
22:04 - Kobra: okay, is this the normal?
22:04 - Kobra: no
22:04 - Kobra: that's an exception
22:04 - Victormeriqui: it isnt
22:04 - Victormeriqui: because people are bad
22:04 - Victormeriqui: that video
22:04 - Victormeriqui: is pretty impossible
22:05 - Kobra: maybe you just livein an uncivilized place/
22:05 - Kobra: but this happens a lot
22:05 - Victormeriqui: no it doesnt
22:05 - Victormeriqui: and if it does
22:05 - Kobra: people hand phones in, tell people whenthey dropped shit
22:05 - Kobra: etc...
22:05 - Victormeriqui: what goes inside the peoples mind
22:05 - Kobra: all the time
22:05 - Victormeriqui: is not what they do
22:05 - Kobra: i found loads of phones, and handed all of them in
22:05 - Victormeriqui: yes
22:05 - Victormeriqui: that happens
22:05 - Victormeriqui: but not like that video
22:06 - Kobra: the video is an exaduratrion
22:06 - Victormeriqui: that video showed everyone as the good joe
22:06 - Kobra: exaduration
22:06 - Victormeriqui: but
22:06 - Victormeriqui: what i was saying
22:06 - Victormeriqui: people are not who they seem to be
22:06 - Kobra: the good joes are far more common
22:06 - Kobra: at least where i live
22:06 - Victormeriqui: i hate a lot of people and everyone thinks im the nicest guy ever
22:06 - Kobra: but, you need to fight against being "bad"
22:06 - Kobra: as that only encourages others to do the smae
22:07 - Kobra: fighting it at it's roots is the best place
22:07 - Kobra: and, maybe youi livein a different type of society
22:07 - Kobra: so it's not like this over there for you
22:07 - Kobra: because you jsut came out of a dictatorship
22:07 - Victormeriqui: lol
22:07 - Victormeriqui: no
22:07 - Kobra: you ever left your country?
22:07 - Victormeriqui: portugal is pretty civilized like any onether european country
22:07 - Victormeriqui: and yes many times
22:08 - Victormeriqui: and its all the same
22:08 - Kobra: where'd you go?
22:08 - Victormeriqui: spain
22:08 - Victormeriqui: brazil
22:08 - Kobra: lol
22:08 - Victormeriqui: australia
22:08 - Kobra: austriallia
22:08 - Kobra: was probably good
22:08 - Victormeriqui: people were the same
22:08 - Victormeriqui: im not saying they were bad and noeone helps anyone
22:08 - Kobra: let me ask
22:08 - Victormeriqui: because they do
22:08 - Victormeriqui: and they do so here
22:08 - Kobra: if i was walking 5meters behind you
22:08 - Kobra: would you hold the door for me?
22:09 - Victormeriqui: if you were a hot girl yes
22:09 - Victormeriqui: other wise, unless i know you... probably not
22:09 - Kobra: you see
22:09 - Kobra: in the UK
22:09 - Kobra: everyone holds the door open for everyone
22:09 - Victormeriqui: before you say that
22:09 - Victormeriqui: people do that here
22:09 - Victormeriqui: but i dont
22:09 - Kobra: well, you're the rotten egg
22:09 - Kobra: then
22:09 - Victormeriqui: no
22:09 - Kobra: you're prolly a psycopath
22:10 - Victormeriqui: why would i hold the door for someone i dont know
22:10 - Victormeriqui: how does that benefit me
22:10 - Kobra: because you're being nice
22:10 - Kobra: it doesn't matter
22:10 - Kobra: it makes you feel good when your'e nice
22:10 - Kobra: and it's nice when others hold the door for you
22:10 - Victormeriqui: i doesnt
22:10 - Kobra: yeah, it does...
22:10 - Victormeriqui: if i hold the door ill just feel stupid
22:10 - Kobra: it puts a smile on p.much everyones face
22:11 - Victormeriqui: why would you smile for holding a door?
22:11 - Kobra: no, that's if theyre further waway
22:11 - Kobra: because im being nice?
22:11 - Victormeriqui: its just a door
22:11 - Victormeriqui: all you have to do is push it
22:11 - Kobra: they say thank you, i say no problem
22:11 - Kobra: it brightens everyone's day
22:11 - Kobra: not the point
22:11 - Victormeriqui: doesnt for me
22:11 - Kobra: the point is, it's nice
22:12 - Kobra: you seriously would only hold it for an attractive girl?
22:12 - Victormeriqui: or for someone i know
22:12 - Kobra: you really arn't a very nice person
22:12 - Victormeriqui: didnt say i was
22:12 - Victormeriqui: but im not bad
22:12 - Victormeriqui: tbh i dont think there is a nice or bad
22:13 - Victormeriqui: but what i said earlier
22:13 - Victormeriqui: you have to be bad to have power
22:13 - Victormeriqui: still stands
22:13 - Victormeriqui: and it probably will never change
22:13 - Kobra: so
22:13 - Kobra: you don't think
22:13 - Kobra: like
22:13 - Kobra: going through a door
22:13 - Kobra: and letting it slam one someone else's face
22:13 - Kobra: is nice?
22:14 - Kobra: maybe you should try being nice some time
22:14 - Victormeriqui: well i wouldnt let it slam on someones face like that out of the blue but i wouldnt stay there holding it either
22:14 - Victormeriqui: people are capable of opening doors for themselves
22:14 - Kobra: one day
22:14 - Kobra: i was aproaching some lights
22:14 - Kobra: and an oldwoman was standing the other side
22:14 - Kobra: the lights were on red, and could cross
22:15 - Kobra: but the beeper was broken, so she didn't realize
22:15 - Kobra: i just let her know as i went past
22:15 - Kobra: didn't cost me anything, but made me feel good
22:15 - Kobra: she said thanks, and went on her way
22:15 - Victormeriqui: i probably wouldnt think of doing that
22:15 - Kobra: why?
22:15 - Victormeriqui: dont know
22:15 - Kobra: it litterally didn't cost me anything
22:16 - Kobra: and ait helped her
22:16 - Kobra: and it cheered us both up
22:16 - Victormeriqui: you will probably think im trolling but if it was a hot girl or someone i knew, then maybe
22:16 - Kobra: that's rediculus
22:17 - Victormeriqui: not that i wouldnt do it, i just wouldnt think about it if it was an old lady
22:17 - Kobra: you know
22:17 - Kobra: the only placei don't see this kind of behavoir
22:17 - Kobra: is in younge kids
22:17 - Kobra: like, at highschools
22:17 - Kobra: they would've just laughed at the lady, and made her embarressed
22:17 - Victormeriqui: depends on the kids
22:18 - Victormeriqui: normally girl kids are ncier
22:18 - Victormeriqui: nicer
22:18 - Kobra: girls are supeiror gender :)
22:18 - Victormeriqui: oh come on
22:18 - Kobra: lol
22:18 - Kobra: was joke
22:18 - Victormeriqui: but
22:18 - Victormeriqui: kids dont think of that
22:18 - Kobra: yeah, children don't think of consequences
22:18 - Victormeriqui: kids are kinda well... like me
22:19 - Victormeriqui: i wouldnt think about it
22:19 - Kobra: my mom brought me up constantly thinking about conseqeuences
22:19 - Victormeriqui: wouldnt laugh, like no reason to
22:19 - Kobra: brought me up with good morals
22:19 - Victormeriqui: but wouldnt think of it
22:19 - Victormeriqui: what evolutionary gain do morals have?
22:19 - Kobra: but still
22:20 - Kobra: not doing something nice, that doesn't cost you anything, because it won't yield anything in return for you is a freaking asshole move
22:20 - Victormeriqui: no
22:20 - Victormeriqui: doing something bad is an asshole move
22:20 - Victormeriqui: not doing anything is well nothiung
22:20 - Victormeriqui: but
22:20 - Victormeriqui: well
22:21 - Victormeriqui: you can still have an impact trough inaction
22:21 - Victormeriqui: so
22:21 - Victormeriqui: idk
22:21 - Kobra: doing nothing is still doing something
22:21 - Victormeriqui: yes
22:21 - Victormeriqui: idk
22:21 - Kobra: you can't do nothing
22:21 - Kobra: you're always doing something
22:21 - Victormeriqui: maybe, it is an asshole move
22:21 - Kobra: but, imagine, when you're elder
22:21 - Kobra: you didn't notice the lights change
22:22 - Kobra: wouldn't you like it if someone were to inform you
22:22 - Kobra: so you don't have to wait again, or so on
22:22 - Kobra: and wouldn't it make you feel good that someone took some of their time to offer you a hand?
22:22 - Victormeriqui: yes, everyone would. But doing it now wont ensure it later
22:22 - Kobra: it raises moral, and with high moral, people are nicer, and also more productive
22:24 - Kobra: you know, maybe you should try it some time
22:24 - Victormeriqui: i have
22:24 - Kobra: you obvoisuly don't go out of you way to help people, that's different (allthough nice if you do)
22:24 - Victormeriqui: i used to be nicer
22:24 - Victormeriqui: didnt bring me any benefits
22:24 - Kobra: but, if the oportunity arises, cease it, and help
22:24 - Kobra: you're right, it doesn't
22:24 - Kobra: but doesn't cost you anything either
22:25 - Kobra: it makes people happier
22:25 - Victormeriqui: it does
22:25 - Kobra: what, a few seconds?
22:25 - Victormeriqui: it makes  me feel silly