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- [2013-08-07 18:45:11] <Clef> all right, guys
- [2013-08-07 18:45:19] <Clef> this is no longer about arguing over Djoric's article
- [2013-08-07 18:45:19] <Nusquam> Able has to come back to life.
- [2013-08-07 18:45:27] <Clef> this is now about doing a rewrite of SCP-105.
- [2013-08-07 18:45:29] <Clef> Let's begin.
- [2013-08-07 18:45:39] <Clef> SCP-105 is to be kept in a two-room cell furnished with whatever SCP-105 requests as long as such requests do not violate any standard SCP procedure. Subject is allowed to freely wander the facility, but is not allowed within one hundred meters of another SCP object for security reasons. Once per week, SCP-105 is allowed to leave the facility for one hour. During this period SCP-105 is to be accompanied by two plain-clothes agents.
- [2013-08-07 18:45:54] <Dmatix> Gonna have to get a raincheck on that. It's DOTA 2 time.
- [2013-08-07 18:45:55] <Clef> This needs to be fixed. We don't let SCPs wander around alone any more. Suggestions?
- [2013-08-07 18:45:56] <Nusquam> I think there's a neat angle that's never considered in the article.
- [2013-08-07 18:45:56] <Jekeled> Dmatix: It's the line that seperates the cultural North and South. Sorry for the confusion :P
- [2013-08-07 18:46:05] <Nusquam> Angle is maybe not the right word.
- [2013-08-07 18:46:22] <Dmatix> Heh. About time you explain history to me for once, Jekeled.
- [2013-08-07 18:46:34] <Jekeled> :3c
- [2013-08-07 18:46:53] <Nusquam> But the article never considers that photographs show things as they were, not as they are. Just kind of glosses over that by saying she can remotely observe things through still images.
- [2013-08-07 18:46:54] <Clef> **Special Containment Procedures:** SCP-105 is to be housed in a standard two-room cell, but is allowed free movement on-site (with the normal restrictions and caveats for
- [2013-08-07 18:46:55] <Clef> . . .
- [2013-08-07 18:46:57] <Clef> what?
- [2013-08-07 18:46:57] <Dmatix> How's that Semotrach tale going, by the way?
- [2013-08-07 18:47:01] |<-- Dexanote has left irc.synirc.net (Quit: brb3)
- [2013-08-07 18:47:01] <Silber> Yeah, it's cultural, not legal
- [2013-08-07 18:47:02] <Jekeled> Dmatix: I like history too; I just don't have a major to prove it. Or the systematic knowledge :P
- [2013-08-07 18:47:11] <Jekeled> Dmatix: 1/3 done, procrastinating on the other 2/3
- [2013-08-07 18:47:24] <Clef> Nus: I did consider that, and I have an idea on how to handle that.
- [2013-08-07 18:47:33] <Dmatix> Know that feeling all too well. If you need anymore help with it, just let me know.
- [2013-08-07 18:47:41] -->| Dexanote (Mibbit@synIRC-C30AF329.home.cgocable.net) has joined #site67
- [2013-08-07 18:47:46] <Nusquam> Maybe she was really /supposed/ to be in that asylum?
- [2013-08-07 18:47:48] <Clef> Namely, it's not all photographs and all cameras. It's only this one girl and one particular polaroid camera.
- [2013-08-07 18:48:15] <Jekeled> kk, thanks
- [2013-08-07 18:48:18] <Nusquam> I mean, if you can only ever see things as they were, and interact with what remains the same, I can see a pathos developing related to fear of change.
- [2013-08-07 18:48:22] <Nusquam> Or inability to accept it.
- [2013-08-07 18:48:54] <Clef> Nus: too complicated.
- [2013-08-07 18:49:00] <Nusquam> I'm not suggesting she be batshit crazy.
- [2013-08-07 18:49:04] <Clef> Look
- [2013-08-07 18:49:17] <Clef> Let's start by paring off the parts that are obviously artifacts of being written back in the day
- [2013-08-07 18:49:21] <Clef> before we start changing the core concept
- [2013-08-07 18:49:40] <Clef> this is part of my problem when people start proposing sweeping changes for older articles: a lot of the time, the issues are less with the core concept and more with side issues
- [2013-08-07 18:49:48] <Clef> like the fact that Iris is allowed to freely reign across the site
- [2013-08-07 18:49:55] <Clef> That's not something we do nowadays and could trigger a downvote
- [2013-08-07 18:49:56] <Nusquam> That definitely has to go.
- [2013-08-07 18:49:59] <Clef> so how do we fix that?
- [2013-08-07 18:50:07] <thedeadlymoose> Heh. *I* did that in an article and got an Echo upvote.
- [2013-08-07 18:50:09] <thedeadlymoose> It's not impossible.
- [2013-08-07 18:50:12] <thedeadlymoose> BUT.
- [2013-08-07 18:50:13] <thedeadlymoose> We can just remove it.
- [2013-08-07 18:50:20] <Dmatix> Pssh. I have more.
- [2013-08-07 18:50:38] <Clef> What I have so far: SCP-105 is to be housed in a standard two-room cell, but is allowed free movement on-site, with the normal restrictions and caveats for a . . .
- [2013-08-07 18:50:39] <Clef> . . .
- [2013-08-07 18:50:47] <Clef> I'm looking for a good descriptor for what Iris is
- [2013-08-07 18:50:49] <Clef> humanoid SCP/
- [2013-08-07 18:50:51] <Clef> ?
- [2013-08-07 18:50:58] <Clef> But that's not a phrase we use in-universe.
- [2013-08-07 18:51:03] <Clef> Unusual Personnel?
- [2013-08-07 18:51:08] <Nusquam> She's not personnel.
- [2013-08-07 18:51:22] <Nusquam> And I thought we wanted to get rid of her being allowed free movement on site.
- [2013-08-07 18:51:27] <Clef> I'd like to keep the idea that she was formerly a member of Omega-7 before it was disbanded.
- [2013-08-07 18:51:35] <Nusquam> That's it's own can of worms.
- [2013-08-07 18:51:43] <Clef> It's still in canon.
- [2013-08-07 18:51:48] <thedeadlymoose> Let's attempt it.
- [2013-08-07 18:51:53] <thedeadlymoose> There's no reason it can't be cut eventually.
- [2013-08-07 18:51:56] <thedeadlymoose> if we can't make it work
- [2013-08-07 18:51:57] <Echo> Why would you let her move around the facilityu
- [2013-08-07 18:51:58] <Nusquam> I'd suggest setting that aside and coming back to it once you have a decent core.
- [2013-08-07 18:52:03] <Clef> The idea that the Foundation once had a MTF that was made up of humanoid SCPs
- [2013-08-07 18:52:07] <Clef> The core is already decent, Nusquam
- [2013-08-07 18:52:09] <Nusquam> Is retarded.
- [2013-08-07 18:52:15] <Nusquam> That's what the idea is.
- [2013-08-07 18:52:18] <Clef> I'm saying we need to trim the rough edges.
- [2013-08-07 18:52:20] <Echo> This is like, exactly what you did with Able
- [2013-08-07 18:52:27] <Clef> Echo: more or less, yes.
- [2013-08-07 18:52:30] <Echo> You kept the most ludicrous elements possible
- [2013-08-07 18:52:38] <Clef> And Able's now holding pretty steady.
- [2013-08-07 18:52:41] <thedeadlymoose> Yup.
- [2013-08-07 18:52:47] <Silber> "restrictions of discharged members of Mobile Task Force Omega-7"?
- [2013-08-07 18:52:47] <Silber> Two birds.
- [2013-08-07 18:52:53] <Echo> Well, yeah, but it's still written like...
- [2013-08-07 18:52:58] <Djoric> http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-1465
- [2013-08-07 18:52:59] <Djoric> THERE
- [2013-08-07 18:53:01] <Echo> Well, like the people dealing with it have some form of brain damage
- [2013-08-07 18:53:05] <Djoric> DONE
- [2013-08-07 18:53:10] <thedeadlymoose> Nus, Echo, you two are pretty much always a minority opinion on how 'retarded' old stuff is, yet it can work for the majority of people.
- [2013-08-07 18:53:17] <Echo> And can't come up with functional, working ideas.
- [2013-08-07 18:53:17] <Silber> Like a 90s Image comic?
- [2013-08-07 18:53:30] <Nusquam> That doesn't mean we're wrong, Moose.
- [2013-08-07 18:53:32] <Clef> you know what?
- [2013-08-07 18:53:34] <Clef> Fuck it
- [2013-08-07 18:53:37] <Clef> I'm doing this solo
- [2013-08-07 18:53:41] <thedeadlymoose> Of course not, but we shouldn't get derailed on 'this is retarded'
- [2013-08-07 18:53:42] <Nusquam> Godspeed.
- [2013-08-07 18:53:43] <Clef> Shouldn't have bothered asking you guys for help on this.
- [2013-08-07 18:53:52] <thedeadlymoose> :/
- [2013-08-07 18:53:52] <Nusquam> No, you shouldn't.
- [2013-08-07 18:53:59] <Nusquam> You are god-king of the Foundation.
- [2013-08-07 18:54:14] <Nusquam> We should be grateful to be graced with your presence.
- [2013-08-07 18:54:16] <Roget> Clef I don't think that's a very good idea, just because yer frustrated
- [2013-08-07 18:54:19] <Djoric> Who can clearly do no wrong
- [2013-08-07 18:54:30] <Echo> I'm just saying, when you're writing this sort of thing, it comes off as the people in-universe as being monumentally incompetent
- [2013-08-07 18:54:32] <Clef> then if you don't feel like answering my fucking questions, please don't interject.
- [2013-08-07 18:54:38] <Clef> Echo: I understand that entirely.
- [2013-08-07 18:54:46] <Echo> That's all I'm getting at.
- [2013-08-07 18:54:51] <Jekeled> Djoric: upvoted
- [2013-08-07 18:54:56] <Djoric> woop woop
- [2013-08-07 18:55:04] <Clef> On the other hand, I'm not here to fix the big issues with the articles as a whole.
- [2013-08-07 18:55:19] <Echo> Why not fix them, though
- [2013-08-07 18:55:22] <Clef> I'm here to trim the rough edges.
- [2013-08-07 18:55:28] <Silber> Isn't that the point of rewriting it?
- [2013-08-07 18:55:32] <Clef> Because, like I said. . . people seem to like the stupid.
- [2013-08-07 18:55:51] <Clef> I personally think that Superman is kinda dumb, but it still pissed me off when Man of Steel got him so monumentally wrong.
- [2013-08-07 18:55:56] <thedeadlymoose> You can keep stupid concepts and make them work within an article.
- [2013-08-07 18:55:57] <Echo> That's probably why it's so low-rated at the moment
- [2013-08-07 18:56:11] <thedeadlymoose> Omega-7 is a stupid concept. But 076 makes it work. There's no reason 105 can't too.
- [2013-08-07 18:56:18] <Echo> They loved it so much they downvoted it in an apoplectic fit of attempting to upvite it
- [2013-08-07 18:56:19] <Clef> Echo: Like I said. . . the problem isn't in the core.
- [2013-08-07 18:56:27] <Nusquam> Right.
- [2013-08-07 18:56:29] <Nusquam> It's not.
- [2013-08-07 18:56:30] <Clef> The problem is in all of the seriously sillier elements surrounding it.
- [2013-08-07 18:56:35] <Nusquam> Right.
- [2013-08-07 18:56:47] <Nusquam> So why keep the sillier elements like the O-7 membership.
- [2013-08-07 18:56:49] <Silber> Maybe the article was popular in spite of the stupid.
- [2013-08-07 18:57:06] <Clef> Because. . . SCP-076 still included O7 membership. ,. . and it's now rated in the mid hundreds.
- [2013-08-07 18:57:15] <Clef> So Omega 7 isn't the problem
- [2013-08-07 18:57:18] <thedeadlymoose> I like the O-7 membership, and I like O-7, so I'm going to continue as if it's going to stay in, personally speaking
- [2013-08-07 18:57:27] <Silber> Moose said earlier that we can't assume why people downvote; I assume that also applies for upvotes.
- [2013-08-07 18:57:29] <Clef> The problem is in the elements like giving her free reign over the site.
- [2013-08-07 18:57:33] <thedeadlymoose> We're on the free-roaming privileges, correct?
- [2013-08-07 18:57:36] <Clef> So yes
- [2013-08-07 18:57:42] <Clef> we are currently on free roaming privileges.
- [2013-08-07 18:57:50] <Clef> And I'm looking for the proper way to phrase this.
- [2013-08-07 18:57:52] <Dmatix> Clef: But in a way, isn't the core of the new 76 is the idea that O-7 was a huge, huge mistake?
- [2013-08-07 18:57:58] <Clef> Dmatix: yes
- [2013-08-07 18:58:05] <Clef> and the idea is that Iris was part of that huge mistake
- [2013-08-07 18:58:10] <Dmatix> And considering that, shouldn't 105 be treated a bit more harshly?
- [2013-08-07 18:58:14] <Clef> It's part of her PAST, not her present.
- [2013-08-07 18:58:17] <Wogglebug> Looking at it in-universe, for what reasons might the SCP be given free-roam privileges?
- [2013-08-07 18:58:18] <Dmatix> As in, no free roaming.
- [2013-08-07 18:58:21] <Clef> But the mistake was with other people, not with her.
- [2013-08-07 18:58:25] <Echo> Nothing, really
- [2013-08-07 18:58:28] <Clef> Here is my angle on Iris.
- [2013-08-07 18:58:34] <Clef> Omega 7 existed
- [2013-08-07 18:58:35] <Echo> Because there's no way to guarantee something's security
- [2013-08-07 18:58:38] <Clef> Iris and Able were members.
- [2013-08-07 18:58:42] <thedeadlymoose> Here's a draft.
- [2013-08-07 18:58:44] <thedeadlymoose> SCP-105 is implanted with a tracking device and is currently allowed Class 3 (restricted) free-roaming and socialization privileges with approved site personnel, granted based on continued good behavior and cooperation with Foundation personnel.
- [2013-08-07 18:58:47] <Echo> Or the ability to quickly relocate them in an emergency
- [2013-08-07 18:58:50] <Clef> Able, however, went ape. Omega 7 was disbanded.
- [2013-08-07 18:58:54] <thedeadlymoose> I stole the wording from one of my own articles, so feel free to change it.
- [2013-08-07 18:58:56] <Clef> Iris, however, didn't do anything wrong.
- [2013-08-07 18:59:18] <Dexanote> hrm.
- [2013-08-07 18:59:19] <Clef> So here is a person who could be an X-Man, but can't be because policy doesn't allow it.
- [2013-08-07 18:59:19] <Dexanote> 3
- [2013-08-07 18:59:20] <Dmatix> I'm just trying to think like an O5. I wouldn't want any part of that huge failure just around like that. I'd make my best to hide it.
- [2013-08-07 18:59:20] <thedeadlymoose> Maybe cut "free-roaming and"
- [2013-08-07 18:59:23] <Scanchores> asdf
- [2013-08-07 18:59:27] =-= YOU are now known as Scantron
- [2013-08-07 18:59:27] =-= User mode for Scantron is now +r
- [2013-08-07 18:59:40] <thedeadlymoose> Eh, I could see some of the O5s wanting to force mistakes to continue to be public.
- [2013-08-07 18:59:45] <thedeadlymoose> Hell, we see this dynamic with our own site. :P
- [2013-08-07 18:59:48] <Dexanote> Keep going, clef.
- [2013-08-07 19:00:11] <Silber> Heh
- [2013-08-07 19:00:52] <Dmatix> So use that, I say. Make O5 in-fighting a major focus.
- [2013-08-07 19:01:02] =-= Mode #site67 +o Dexanote by ChanServ
- [2013-08-07 19:01:06] <Dmatix> Have ever changing containment procedures that come from in-fighting.
- [2013-08-07 19:01:29] <Clef> **Special Containment Procedures:** SCP-105 is implanted with a tracking device and is currently allowed Class 3 (restricted) socialization privileges with approved site personnel, granted based on continued good behavior and cooperation with Foundation personnel. SCP-105's personal camera (designated SCP-105-B) is to remain in a locked safe-deposit box at Site 19's High Value Item Storage Facility. Standard positive-action defenses (ex
- [2013-08-07 19:01:29] <Clef> At no point are SCP-105 and SCP-105-B to be allowed to come into contact, without approval of a majority vote of the O5-council.
- [2013-08-07 19:01:39] <Dmatix> Poor woman getting harassed between almost free-roaming and sitting in a dungeon.
- [2013-08-07 19:02:18] <Dexanote> I like that, Clef. Gives a reasonable number of caveats for a technically mundane SCP.
- [2013-08-07 19:02:50] <thedeadlymoose> [17:00] Dmatix So use that, I say. Make O5 in-fighting a major focus. > I am more than okay with this, but it needs to be differentiated from 076, which does something similar
- [2013-08-07 19:03:00] <thedeadlymoose> Interesting
- [2013-08-07 19:03:12] * Scantron reads upscroll
- [2013-08-07 19:03:16] <Scantron> motherofgod.flac
- [2013-08-07 19:03:17] <thedeadlymoose> Normally I'd dislike the O5 Council being directly referenced, but with the O-7 angle, it could work
- [2013-08-07 19:03:32] <thedeadlymoose> Also
- [2013-08-07 19:03:35] <thedeadlymoose> "Standard positive-action defenses (ex"
- [2013-08-07 19:03:36] <thedeadlymoose> That cut off
- [2013-08-07 19:03:41] <Wogglebug> I fyou make it two parts of a whole, one organic and sapient and the other a camera, that could excuse treating the human portion slightly leniantly.
- [2013-08-07 19:03:44] <Echo> Yeah
- [2013-08-07 19:03:46] <Clef> Standard positive-action defenses (explosive, chemical, biological, and memetic) are to be in place at all times, according to standard operating procedure.
- [2013-08-07 19:03:48] <Echo> That shit makes literally no sense
- [2013-08-07 19:03:49] <Dmatix> You can easily do that. 76 is very dangerous, 105 isn't. Her containment procedures can be directly and rapidly affected by the O5 currently in favor.
- [2013-08-07 19:03:59] <Echo> What the fuck does that even mean
- [2013-08-07 19:04:10] <thedeadlymoose> Echo, no one knows what you're talking about
- [2013-08-07 19:04:12] <Echo> It's a series of words that someone put together because they thought they meant something together
- [2013-08-07 19:04:14] <thedeadlymoose> Please clarify.
- [2013-08-07 19:04:17] <Clef> Echo: I have no idea. It sounded good. So whatever.
- [2013-08-07 19:04:20] <Echo> > Standard positive-action defenses
- [2013-08-07 19:04:25] <Echo> That whole spiel
- [2013-08-07 19:04:32] <Dexanote> He's throwing out an example of what he wants to do Echo
- [2013-08-07 19:04:37] <Dexanote> Its not a finished draft yet
- [2013-08-07 19:04:38] <thedeadlymoose> That's irrelevant, though
- [2013-08-07 19:04:44] <--| Maddy has left #site67 (WOOSH)
- [2013-08-07 19:04:44] * Dexanote sighs, goes to take phonecall
- [2013-08-07 19:04:50] <thedeadlymoose> The Foundation CAN, in fact, have internal language that does not exist in real life
- [2013-08-07 19:04:54] <Silber> .g "standard positive-action defenses"
- [2013-08-07 19:04:55] <CROM> Silber: http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-297 -- SCP-297 - The SCP Foundation: "May 20, 2013 ... Standard positive-action defenses (explosive, chemical, biological, and memetic) are to be in place at all times, according to standard operating ..."
- [2013-08-07 19:04:57] <thedeadlymoose> And this IS, in face, 'realistic'
- [2013-08-07 19:05:01] <Silber> heh
- [2013-08-07 19:05:03] <thedeadlymoose> So, I say we keep standard positive-action defenses
- [2013-08-07 19:05:11] <thedeadlymoose> *face = fact
- [2013-08-07 19:05:15] <Clef> Whatever, moving on. Echo, if you can think of a better way to put, "If you're an unauthorized person trying to access this, you'll get blown up, poisoned, or infected with a deadly disease," feel free to say so.
- [2013-08-07 19:05:17] <Clef> Moving on.
- [2013-08-07 19:05:40] <Clef> **Description:** SCP-105 (formerly known as Iris █████), is a Caucasian female human. Records indicate that the subject was born in ████, making her 18 years old at the time of acquisition. Subject has blond hair and blue eyes, and at the time of the article, is 1.54 meters in height and 50kg in weight. Subject does not appear to have any out-of-the-ordinary physical characteristics and appears to be, for all intents a
- [2013-08-07 19:05:44] <Dmatix> thedeadlymoose: think of the physiological effects on Iris. She keeps getting moved from site to site, from containment to containment on the whims of the O5. There's no security, no stability.
- [2013-08-07 19:05:46] <Clef> Subject does not appear to have any out-of-the-ordinary physical characteristics and appears to be, for all intents and purposes, a normal human being in good health.
- [2013-08-07 19:05:54] <Dmatix> That alone can make for a real interesting read.
- [2013-08-07 19:07:10] <Silber> She can't settle into a containment cell long enough to make any friends there.
- [2013-08-07 19:08:11] <Clef> all right
- [2013-08-07 19:08:28] <Clef> anyone here a camera buff who can tell me about Polaroid cameras?
- [2013-08-07 19:08:29] <Dmatix> You joke, but there's a truth in that. If she's allowed some freedom in one site, but she's all locked up in another, that'll get to you.
- [2013-08-07 19:08:38] <Roget> Clef
- [2013-08-07 19:08:43] <Roget> what do you need to know
- [2013-08-07 19:08:53] <Dmatix> Even in prisons, stability is very, very important.
- [2013-08-07 19:08:55] * Wogglebug puts up the Kens symbol
- [2013-08-07 19:08:58] <Clef> Give me a Polaroid model camera suitable for a teenage to early twenties hipster
- [2013-08-07 19:09:09] <Scantron> I'd say find Dr_Kens and ask him.
- [2013-08-07 19:09:09] <Roget> Stand by
- [2013-08-07 19:09:14] <Wogglebug> Clef: Try the entirety of the internet.
- [2013-08-07 19:09:14] <Scantron> Or, Roget will do a thing
- [2013-08-07 19:09:21] <Clef> Woggle: I did
- [2013-08-07 19:09:24] <Wogglebug> lol
- [2013-08-07 19:09:25] <Clef> I got too much information
- [2013-08-07 19:09:27] <Clef> I have no idea
- [2013-08-07 19:09:59] <Dmatix> If you want to go Polaroid, you can play with that too.
- [2013-08-07 19:10:08] <Dmatix> It's a dying breed of cameras, after all.
- [2013-08-07 19:10:34] <Roget> OneStep 600
- [2013-08-07 19:10:49] <Roget> has the most distinctive shape and is the most well-known and widely used hipster model
- [2013-08-07 19:11:08] <Clef> date of manufacture?
- [2013-08-07 19:11:08] <Dmatix> That can be used in relation to her powers. I like an SCP that's like a leftover meal- no part goes to waste.
- [2013-08-07 19:11:12] <Silber> .gi Polaroid onestep 600
- [2013-08-07 19:11:13] <CROM> Silber: http://danfinnen.com/reviews/images/camera_images/onestep600-2.jpg
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- [2013-08-07 19:11:36] <Clef> http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Polaroid_OneStep_600
- [2013-08-07 19:11:40] <thedeadlymoose> I actually really like the idea of using a Polaroid
- [2013-08-07 19:11:43] <thedeadlymoose> Do it
- [2013-08-07 19:11:49] <Roget> http://gyazo.com/53d320d62a5a2f3950fc0cf8ae365b99
- [2013-08-07 19:11:56] <Roget> http://gyazo.com/cf9055c3734469cf0e53dee050b0fe47
- [2013-08-07 19:11:58] <Roget> this'n
- [2013-08-07 19:12:28] <Dmatix> If you're really feeling brave, you can tie the decline of Polaroid directly to the skip's history.
- [2013-08-07 19:12:40] <thedeadlymoose> I also do like the idea of her getting moved around with inconsistent procedures
- [2013-08-07 19:12:44] <Clef> too silly, Dmatix
- [2013-08-07 19:13:07] <Dmatix> Very possibly, yes.
- [2013-08-07 19:13:35] <Dmatix> It's really the sort of SCP that can live on human drama. Those are rare.
- [2013-08-07 19:13:39] <Roget> http://gyazo.com/7e2519ac3984c4b46a4c714181f1ae6a
- [2013-08-07 19:13:47] <Roget> http://gyazo.com/6d468ab8489987314c6b585923d8c963
- [2013-08-07 19:13:50] <Roget> pictures look like this
- [2013-08-07 19:14:40] <Roget> http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Polaroid_OneStep_600
- [2013-08-07 19:14:43] <Roget> camerapedia entry
- [2013-08-07 19:14:47] * Roget likes polaroid >.>
- [2013-08-07 19:15:10] <Dmatix> Which is why I think some of the tech stuff can be skipped in favor of that. Well, not skipped, but glossed over.
- [2013-08-07 19:15:16] <Dexanote> because you're a 90s hipster roget
- [2013-08-07 19:15:27] <Roget> I aaaaaam
- [2013-08-07 19:16:02] <Clef> SCP-105-B is a Polaroid One Step 600 camera, manufactured in 1982. SCP-105-B does not appear to have any out-of-the-ordinary physical characteristics and appears to be, for all intents and purposes, a normal Polaroid camera, operating normally for all persons aside from SCP-105.
- [2013-08-07 19:16:19] <thedeadlymoose> Works for me
- [2013-08-07 19:16:25] <thedeadlymoose> hahaha I like polaroid too
- [2013-08-07 19:16:29] <thedeadlymoose> but not as much as roget
- [2013-08-07 19:16:35] <thedeadlymoose> because no one is as 90s hipster as roget
- [2013-08-07 19:16:35] <Roget> Clef: Also if you're going through on rewrite pls change the picture
- [2013-08-07 19:16:42] <Roget> the current picture is bad and stuff
- [2013-08-07 19:16:47] <Scantron> also not the right camera
- [2013-08-07 19:16:50] <thedeadlymoose> I'd love to see the picture changed as well
- [2013-08-07 19:16:51] <Dmatix> Thedeadlymoose: that means you like Nickback by proxy.
- [2013-08-07 19:16:55] <Silber> Are we writing the article or just getting the structure down?
- [2013-08-07 19:16:57] <Dmatix> You can't avoid the truth.
- [2013-08-07 19:17:23] <thedeadlymoose> Dmatix, wrong joke to make
- [2013-08-07 19:17:25] <thedeadlymoose> I don't into music
- [2013-08-07 19:17:34] <thedeadlymoose> I had to google Nickleback just now
- [2013-08-07 19:17:38] <Scantron> lol
- [2013-08-07 19:17:45] <thedeadlymoose> still not sure who they are tho I'm sure they made a song I've heard
- [2013-08-07 19:17:47] <Dmatix> Grr. Fine. Roget, that means that you're into Nickleback then.
- [2013-08-07 19:17:54] <Silber> Dmatix: unlike this photograph, looking at that joke did not make me laugh
- [2013-08-07 19:17:57] <Roget> Why
- [2013-08-07 19:18:08] <Scantron> Silber: Die.
- [2013-08-07 19:18:12] <Dmatix> Silber, have I told that I loved you today? Because I do.
- [2013-08-07 19:18:17] <Dmatix> So very much.
- [2013-08-07 19:18:28] <Dmatix> You...complete me.
- [2013-08-07 19:18:29] <Silber> Yeah, you did a little earlier.
- [2013-08-07 19:18:29] * Scantron ships silber x dmatic
- [2013-08-07 19:18:31] <thedeadlymoose> I was a kid in the 90s but I was also sheltered. :p
- [2013-08-07 19:18:32] * Scantron *dmatix
- [2013-08-07 19:18:33] <Silber> ?Silber
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- [2013-08-07 19:18:34] <CROM> Silber is the wind beneath my wings
- [2013-08-07 19:18:42] <Clef> Roget: I'm going to delete the photo for now until someone can find me a better one.
- [2013-08-07 19:18:42] <Scantron> ?Scantron
- [2013-08-07 19:18:44] <CROM> scantron turned into Yoric. Sad times had by all.
- [2013-08-07 19:18:48] <Dmatix> See, CROM agrees.
- [2013-08-07 19:18:49] <Clef> When SCP-105 is holds a photograph taken by SCP-105-B, the photograph changes from a still image to that of a real-time image of the location in question. SCP-105 is also able to "reach through" the photograph, and manipulate objects within reach of the original point at which the photograph was taken. Persons witnessing this manipulation report seeing a disembodied female hand (determined to be that of SCP-105) reaching out from an inv
- [2013-08-07 19:18:51] <Scantron> When did /that/ happen?
- [2013-08-07 19:18:53] <Clef> let me know if it cuts off
- [2013-08-07 19:18:59] <Scantron> reaching out from an inv
- [2013-08-07 19:18:59] <thedeadlymoose> "reaching out from an inv"
- [2013-08-07 19:19:08] <Clef> invisible portal and carrying out the actions indicated.
- [2013-08-07 19:19:10] <Roget> Clef since I own a copy of the camera you could just have a photo of SCP-105-B instead of Iris herself
- [2013-08-07 19:19:23] <Roget> i could getcha a pic
- [2013-08-07 19:19:29] <Scantron> Roget: Be extra careful to have good lighting and hold the camera steady
- [2013-08-07 19:19:30] <Clef> Roget: that could work.
- [2013-08-07 19:19:34] <thedeadlymoose> "When SCP-105 is holds " > cut "is"
- [2013-08-07 19:19:36] <Scantron> I noticed that problem with the other pics you took for articles
- [2013-08-07 19:19:43] <FlameShirt> The quotes on "reach through" irks me slightly. It works fine without them.
- [2013-08-07 19:19:45] <Clef> I could place a blank photo with an "image removed" type thing for her personal portrait.
- [2013-08-07 19:19:54] <Roget> Scantron I took all those pictures on one day on a whim
- [2013-08-07 19:19:57] <Clef> Flame: got it. Removing the quotes
- [2013-08-07 19:20:04] <FlameShirt> :>
- [2013-08-07 19:20:07] <Clef> SCP-105-B, and the photographs taken by said camera, have no unusual properties when used by any other person. SCP-105 likewise has no unusual abilities in when it comes to other cameras, or photographs taken by any other cameras (including cameras of the same make and model as SCP-105-B).
- [2013-08-07 19:20:15] <thedeadlymoose> Clef: A key point missing from the original article is -- what happens when the place in the photo is taken?
- [2013-08-07 19:20:25] <Clef> . . .
- [2013-08-07 19:20:30] <thedeadlymoose> Augh
- [2013-08-07 19:20:32] <Clef> . . . nothing?
- [2013-08-07 19:20:45] <thedeadlymoose> When the place in the photo has been altered since the photo was taken
- [2013-08-07 19:20:51] <Clef> real time image
- [2013-08-07 19:20:59] <thedeadlymoose> Ahhh, so it IS a real time image
- [2013-08-07 19:21:00] <Clef> the photo updates as soon as Iris picks it up.
- [2013-08-07 19:21:09] <thedeadlymoose> I misread that, sorry
- [2013-08-07 19:21:13] <Clef> "When SCP-105 is holds a photograph taken by SCP-105-B, the photograph changes from a still image to that of a real-time image of the location in question."
- [2013-08-07 19:21:14] <thedeadlymoose> My bad
- [2013-08-07 19:21:23] <Clef> that "real time image" bit was always part of the article, by the way
- [2013-08-07 19:21:41] <thedeadlymoose> Ah, I thought it had just appeared as one.
- [2013-08-07 19:21:46] <MisterFlames> What's up, gentles?
- [2013-08-07 19:21:55] <Wogglebug> Flames: Stuff
- [2013-08-07 19:22:00] <thedeadlymoose> Heyo Flames
- [2013-08-07 19:22:01] <thedeadlymoose> Rewriting 105
- [2013-08-07 19:22:17] <Djoric> I did it before it was cool
- [2013-08-07 19:23:02] <Wogglebug> lol
- [2013-08-07 19:23:54] <thedeadlymoose> XD
- [2013-08-07 19:24:23] <Clef> All right
- [2013-08-07 19:24:31] <Clef> Moving on to the circumstances of acquisition
- [2013-08-07 19:24:39] <Clef> or what the original article calls "Origin."
- [2013-08-07 19:24:53] <Clef> I like the idea that she was picked up after she witnessed her boyfriend's murder, but the paragraph is badly phrased.
- [2013-08-07 19:24:56] <Wogglebug> Iris was Cool all along.
- [2013-08-07 19:24:59] <Wogglebug> #canon
- [2013-08-07 19:25:04] <Clef> SCP-105 was brought to the Foundation's attention shortly after the murder of her boyfriend when she was sixteen years old. Subject claimed to have witnessed his death through a photograph of his room, prompting her to hurry to his side: unfortunately, this placed her at the scene of the crime, making her a suspect in the murder.
- [2013-08-07 19:25:04] <Djoric> Pffft
- [2013-08-07 19:25:12] <Djoric> iris don't know /shit/ bout being cool
- [2013-08-07 19:25:21] <thedeadlymoose> Clef: Not important, but I'd say keep the Site-17 reference (as in, she's located at 17). Common thread thru old articles with humanoids being kept there
- [2013-08-07 19:25:33] <thedeadlymoose> Also emphasizes the camera being at 19 instead
- [2013-08-07 19:25:42] <thedeadlymoose> Please for the love of god tell me I didn't miss that you already did that
- [2013-08-07 19:26:02] <Dmatix> You can still have her rooms being switched ever so often.
- [2013-08-07 19:26:20] <thedeadlymoose> Hmmm
- [2013-08-07 19:26:21] <Dmatix> Not because of any actual merit to it, but because of O5 politics.
- [2013-08-07 19:26:42] <thedeadlymoose> I... don't like that, completely. I wish she wasn't so Too Dumb To Live that she /told/ someone about her power. How to fix...
- [2013-08-07 19:26:54] <thedeadlymoose> (As in I don't completely like it)
- [2013-08-07 19:27:07] <thedeadlymoose> Hmmmm
- [2013-08-07 19:27:15] <thedeadlymoose> Maybe she broke down and told someone eventually?
- [2013-08-07 19:27:16] <Wogglebug> Maybe she did stuff with things.
- [2013-08-07 19:27:17] <Dmatix> Easy fix. Someone caught her redhanded.
- [2013-08-07 19:27:20] <Wogglebug> And got caught.
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- [2013-08-07 19:28:07] <FlameShirt> Just saying, a guy just posted something that he said was a work in progress to the main site. So, there's that. Something to keep an eye on maybe. http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-1827
- [2013-08-07 19:28:41] <Dmatix> Well, better than most of those already, as I didn't go blind.
- [2013-08-07 19:29:13] <Clef> SCP-105 was brought to the Foundation's attention shortly after the murder of her boyfriend when she was sixteen years old. Subject originally claimed to have been on the phone with the victim at the time of his murder, prompting her to hurry to his side: however, telephone records did not correspond to her story, making her a prime suspect in the murder.
- [2013-08-07 19:29:15] <FlameShirt> It has some kinda neat pictures.
- [2013-08-07 19:30:29] <Clef> Subject then informed her lawyer that she had, in fact, witnessed the murder through a photograph she had taken with her boyfriend several days prior: the attorney in question disregarded the story and recommended that the subject plead guilty. Subject refused to do so and was subsequently found guilty of first degree murder and sentenced to death.
- [2013-08-07 19:31:51] <Clef> Subject was originally recruited from death row as part of the D-Class Acquisition program, but was transferred to Special Containment Procedures pending confirmation of her abilities. Foundation Personnel retrieved SCP-105-B from her home (replacing it with an identical model), and returned it to her. Further testing confirmed subject's unusual abilities, and she was moved to Site-17, designated SCP-105.
- [2013-08-07 19:32:08] <Wogglebug> Sandboxes yo.
- [2013-08-07 19:32:17] <Clef> sorry
- [2013-08-07 19:32:27] <Wogglebug> Nah, I just mean it might be easier.
- [2013-08-07 19:32:30] <Clef> Moving on.
- [2013-08-07 19:32:32] <Wogglebug> I don't mind or anything.
- [2013-08-07 19:32:36] <Clef> better idea
- [2013-08-07 19:32:41] <Clef> updating SCP-105 in real time.
- [2013-08-07 19:32:44] <Clef> the article is now updated.
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- [2013-08-07 19:32:47] <Wogglebug> Huh?
- [2013-08-07 19:32:49] <Wogglebug> Oh.
- [2013-08-07 19:32:51] <Wogglebug> Uhhh.
- [2013-08-07 19:32:53] <Wogglebug> Okaaaay.
- [2013-08-07 19:32:59] <Clef> all right, moving on.
- [2013-08-07 19:33:08] <Clef> I think that the log is largely fine, but will make some small changes.
- [2013-08-07 19:33:10] <thedeadlymoose> reading
- [2013-08-07 19:33:46] <Doctopus> echo
- [2013-08-07 19:33:51] <Doctopus> thanks for frozen synapse
- [2013-08-07 19:34:23] <Doctopus> im havin' a lot of fun
- [2013-08-07 19:34:26] <Djoric> Moose
- [2013-08-07 19:34:28] <Wogglebug> Whasat, Docto?
- [2013-08-07 19:34:35] <thedeadlymoose> Also: Does she have to be 16? 18 almost makes it feel like more of a risk that she'd be in serious deep shit (people are less inclined to think that a 16 year old girl would kill someone as opposed to a legal adult). But this isn't a mandatory change
- [2013-08-07 19:34:35] <Djoric> The dictionary definition of rewrite is as follows
- [2013-08-07 19:34:38] <Djoric> "to write in a different form or manner"
- [2013-08-07 19:34:49] <Djoric> That is all
- [2013-08-07 19:35:08] <Clef> I'll remove the age part, then.
- [2013-08-07 19:35:13] <thedeadlymoose> Also, there is no way she'd be on death row.
- [2013-08-07 19:35:15] <thedeadlymoose> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_juvenile_offenders_executed_in_the_United_States
- [2013-08-07 19:35:21] <Wogglebug> Hey, Djoric, let's not carry on with it, ya know?
- [2013-08-07 19:35:23] <Clef> Djoric: please also look up "pedantic."
- [2013-08-07 19:35:35] <Dmatix> Yeah. Getting to death row takes years, even at 18 she would never be there.
- [2013-08-07 19:35:36] <Wogglebug> Clef, don't encourage it :P
- [2013-08-07 19:35:53] <Clef> all right, then.
- [2013-08-07 19:35:56] <Dmatix> Especially if she was a minor.
- [2013-08-07 19:36:02] <Clef> Let's just remove her age at the time of acquisition, then.,
- [2013-08-07 19:36:18] <thedeadlymoose> burns, echo left
- [2013-08-07 19:36:25] <Doctopus> f u
- [2013-08-07 19:36:26] <thedeadlymoose> okay now I've caught up
- [2013-08-07 19:36:48] <thedeadlymoose> yeah removing age would be good.
- [2013-08-07 19:37:00] <thedeadlymoose> dunno about death row but I don't immediately have a better solution
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- [2013-08-07 19:37:20] <thedeadlymoose> unless we just say she was caught in a D-class sweep for violent offenders
- [2013-08-07 19:37:28] <thedeadlymoose> sweep of prisons
- [2013-08-07 19:39:34] <Clef> updated the log, so it's now her entrance interview for O-7
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- [2013-08-07 19:40:34] <thedeadlymoose> refreshing
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- [2013-08-07 19:42:26] <thedeadlymoose> Clef: " is a Caucasian female human" > If you're going to get as stickler-specific as female human, then just say "a female human of European descent".
- [2013-08-07 19:42:32] <thedeadlymoose> Otherwise it looks inconsistent
- [2013-08-07 19:42:45] <thedeadlymoose> with the level of expected technical accuracy that's implied
- [2013-08-07 19:42:48] <Clef> Caucasian Female in good health, then
- [2013-08-07 19:43:20] <thedeadlymoose> ugh, Caucasian is just such an unscientific word
- [2013-08-07 19:43:27] <thedeadlymoose> but a minority of medical journals still use it
- [2013-08-07 19:43:31] <thedeadlymoose> so :P
- [2013-08-07 19:43:37] <Wogglebug> What about people from the area of the Caucus mountains.
- [2013-08-07 19:43:42] <Clef> psh
- [2013-08-07 19:43:43] <Clef> fine
- [2013-08-07 19:43:44] <Clef> Female honkeuy
- [2013-08-07 19:43:47] <thedeadlymoose> don't capitalize female though
- [2013-08-07 19:43:50] <thedeadlymoose> *honkey
- [2013-08-07 19:43:51] <Wogglebug> Heheh
- [2013-08-07 19:43:52] <thedeadlymoose> :D :D :D
- [2013-08-07 19:43:59] <Wogglebug> *honky
- [2013-08-07 19:44:13] <thedeadlymoose> both spellings are acceptable
- [2013-08-07 19:44:14] <thedeadlymoose> ;)
- [2013-08-07 19:44:23] <Dexanote> goddamn
- [2013-08-07 19:44:24] <Wogglebug> Racial insults are always spelled as simply as possible.
- [2013-08-07 19:44:34] <Dmatix> Yep. Like Wogglebug.
- [2013-08-07 19:44:39] <Wogglebug> :D
- [2013-08-07 19:44:39] <Dmatix> That's a slur, right?
- [2013-08-07 19:44:41] <Dexanote> SCP
- [2013-08-07 19:44:42] <Wogglebug> wait
- [2013-08-07 19:44:44] <Wogglebug> wut
- [2013-08-07 19:44:48] <Dexanote> Street Containment Procedures
- [2013-08-07 19:45:02] <thedeadlymoose> :|
- [2013-08-07 19:45:16] <thedeadlymoose> Clef, you have a sentence structure issue
- [2013-08-07 19:45:18] <Wogglebug> (The word wogg actually is a slur though)
- [2013-08-07 19:45:21] <thedeadlymoose> using colons when a period should be used
- [2013-08-07 19:45:24] <Dexanote> "SCP-105 is a white honkey bitch with a skinny ass who fucks with pictures."
- [2013-08-07 19:45:26] <Wogglebug> (They're just not related)
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- [2013-08-07 19:45:44] <thedeadlymoose> Clef: Just use periods.
- [2013-08-07 19:45:46] <Wogglebug> I SAID THEY'RE NOT RELATED
- [2013-08-07 19:46:09] <Wogglebug> A Wogglebug is a nonsense word for a sandcrab, that actually refers to an invented insect.
- [2013-08-07 19:46:24] * Silber reads the upscroll
- [2013-08-07 19:46:37] <Silber> (@thedeadlymoose) ugh, Caucasian is just such an unscientific word
- [2013-08-07 19:46:42] <thedeadlymoose> Also,... you're going to get people complaining about calling SCP-105 the "subject", as it's not the subject of an experiment, though you can take that as you will (or just let Aelanna rephrase it, she'd be happy to)
- [2013-08-07 19:46:52] <Silber> (@thedeadlymoose) but a minority of medical journals still use it
- [2013-08-07 19:46:53] <Silber> Moose...
- [2013-08-07 19:46:57] <thedeadlymoose> err, you can take that as you will since you are using it in a grammatically correct manner
- [2013-08-07 19:47:00] <Silber> what's your problem with minorities?
- [2013-08-07 19:47:05] <Wogglebug> ohsnap
- [2013-08-07 19:47:10] <Wogglebug> silber callin' yo out
- [2013-08-07 19:47:13] <thedeadlymoose> Probably that they're in the minority
- [2013-08-07 19:47:15] * thedeadlymoose the worst
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- [2013-08-07 19:47:42] <Dmatix> Silber wants to be the minority, he don't need your authority.
- [2013-08-07 19:47:43] <Jekeled> moose is the most racist staff member
- [2013-08-07 19:47:44] <Wogglebug> Man autojoin is the worst.
- [2013-08-07 19:47:47] <Jekeled> Moose for cistaff 2013
- [2013-08-07 19:47:50] <Wogglebug> Confirmed.
- [2013-08-07 19:47:59] <thedeadlymoose> XD
- [2013-08-07 19:48:13] <Jekeled> 2cis
- [2013-08-07 19:48:19] <Jekeled> 4me
- [2013-08-07 19:48:25] <Silber> I wanna be masochistic. I wanna be a statistic.
- [2013-08-07 19:48:31] <thedeadlymoose> Clef: "Dr. █████: Good. First question, when did you become aware of your abilities?" > If you want to get further away from the Foundation seeing this as superpowers, you can use "your anomalous traits" instead
- [2013-08-07 19:48:35] <thedeadlymoose> Implies scientific distance
- [2013-08-07 19:48:37] <thedeadlymoose> Not mandatory tho
- [2013-08-07 19:48:42] <Scantron> y'all're weird motherfuckers
- [2013-08-07 19:48:46] <Clef> Mmmm
- [2013-08-07 19:48:47] <Clef> nah
- [2013-08-07 19:49:01] <Clef> Because this guy's supposed to be recruiting her to Omega 7, I'm okay with a slight X-Men vibe
- [2013-08-07 19:49:06] <Clef> from him at least.
- [2013-08-07 19:49:07] <Wogglebug> Maybe make him less comfortable with the word abilities?
- [2013-08-07 19:49:08] <thedeadlymoose> "Dr. █████: (Interrupting) Please, only answer the questions and nothing else." > I just don't see why he interrupted her
- [2013-08-07 19:49:14] <thedeadlymoose> for the lulz?
- [2013-08-07 19:49:24] <thedeadlymoose> who cares if they get excess information
- [2013-08-07 19:49:42] <thedeadlymoose> Unless they're worried about keeping clinical distance or something? In which case, they should be more specific
- [2013-08-07 19:49:47] <thedeadlymoose> they being the doctor
- [2013-08-07 19:50:35] <FlameShirt> As it is now, it reads like he's just being a jerk for no reason, which is the opposite of what you want to do for someone you're trying to get information out of.
- [2013-08-07 19:50:46] <thedeadlymoose> Addendum 3 seems mildly thin. If we're gonna keep the O7 thing (which I would strongly prefer), I'd like to hear some interesting detail
- [2013-08-07 19:51:05] <thedeadlymoose> We don't need the 'beat Able in a fight' thing because that's either embarrassing enough to cut or embarrassing enough to leave unsaid
- [2013-08-07 19:51:13] <Clef> working on it, Moose.
- [2013-08-07 19:51:17] <thedeadlymoose> okay cool, sorry
- [2013-08-07 19:51:24] * thedeadlymoose jumps every gun :P
- [2013-08-07 19:54:39] * Dexanote brings Moose to canada
- [2013-08-07 19:54:44] * Dexanote strictly controls the guns
- [2013-08-07 19:54:50] <Clef> look at it now.
- [2013-08-07 19:57:32] <FlameShirt> Clef: Again, with your quotes on "Team Iris'", which is a hilarious name in and of itself. Might wanna change it to something that doesn't immediately make a person think of twilight fans :P
- [2013-08-07 19:57:43] <thedeadlymoose> "When SCP-105 is holds "
- [2013-08-07 19:57:50] * thedeadlymoose fixes
- [2013-08-07 19:58:30] <thedeadlymoose> Clef, do you mind if I change the 'her's to 'it's? That's generally standard these days
- [2013-08-07 19:58:35] <Clef> sure
- [2013-08-07 19:59:18] <Wogglebug> Wait, her's?
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- [2013-08-07 19:59:54] <thedeadlymoose> as in, making her X years old to making it X years old
- [2013-08-07 20:01:28] <thedeadlymoose> Do you mind if I change the uses of "Subject" to "SCP-105"? People complain about that on grounds of accuracy. Can leave otherwise.
- [2013-08-07 20:01:47] <Clef> sure, why not
- [2013-08-07 20:01:52] <Clef> try not to overdo it
- [2013-08-07 20:01:57] <Clef> go back and forth between one and the other
- [2013-08-07 20:02:08] <Scantron> Hey, question. Foundation needs to store some non-dangerous audio recordings for an extended period of time. Do they upload it to the site's mainframe/intranet (if so, pls specify), or put them on a separate storage device in a locker (if so, what type?), or both?
- [2013-08-07 20:02:26] <Clef> storage locker
- [2013-08-07 20:02:52] <thedeadlymoose> hmmm
- [2013-08-07 20:03:25] <Scantron> Internet says that magnetic tape lasts 10-30 years, but it's expensive. Flash drives would probably the easiest to handle, but would need replacing every so often.
- [2013-08-07 20:03:40] <Jekeled> Scantron: Store it on vinyl
- [2013-08-07 20:03:53] <Jekeled> Scantron: The one method that never goes out of style
- [2013-08-07 20:04:24] <Scantron> Hm... that sounds fun. I could make the SCP so that they get it on vinyl originally.
- [2013-08-07 20:04:28] <thedeadlymoose> Clef: You used SCP-105 where you meant 105-B, fixing unless you object
- [2013-08-07 20:04:49] <Scantron> So they could store the vinyl originals and unspecified "digital copies" in a locker.
- [2013-08-07 20:05:14] <thedeadlymoose> errrrr
- [2013-08-07 20:05:17] <thedeadlymoose> sorry, got confused, nvm
- [2013-08-07 20:05:24] <Clef> sure, go ahead and fix and proofread
- [2013-08-07 20:05:34] <thedeadlymoose> rather, I saw the wrong error
- [2013-08-07 20:05:44] <thedeadlymoose> actually, it was a subject/verb agreement, fix'd
- [2013-08-07 20:08:57] <thedeadlymoose> ugh calling her 'it' doesn't work while also calling 105-B 'it'. I'll leave it as 'her' and 'she' for now unless I think of a solution
- [2013-08-07 20:10:24] <thedeadlymoose> okay updated with proofreading
- [2013-08-07 20:10:32] <thedeadlymoose> Woggle or another better editor should also take a look
- [2013-08-07 20:10:39] <Wogglebug> Hmm?
- [2013-08-07 20:10:43] <thedeadlymoose> Clef, more critique, though: The death row thing isn't even remotely believable
- [2013-08-07 20:10:56] <Wogglebug> Maybe Iris is like eighty.
- [2013-08-07 20:11:08] <thedeadlymoose> Nope, because
- [2013-08-07 20:11:16] <thedeadlymoose> "SCP-105 was brought to the Foundation's attention shortly after the murder of her boyfriend. "
- [2013-08-07 20:11:18] <thedeadlymoose> Shortly, eh?
- [2013-08-07 20:11:22] <thedeadlymoose> Yet... on death row?
- [2013-08-07 20:11:41] <thedeadlymoose> And even without 'shortly'... again, yeah, she should be /really/ old
- [2013-08-07 20:11:44] <Wogglebug> Maybe she lived in, like, 1970s Russia.
- [2013-08-07 20:11:50] <Wogglebug> And it's just outdated.
- [2013-08-07 20:12:15] <Roget> not Russia. Czechslovakia!
- [2013-08-07 20:12:17] <thedeadlymoose> And honestly, that she got all the way to death row stretches belief. Why wouldn't they try and insanity defense if it was THAT bad? Hell, base it on her supposed powers with photographs
- [2013-08-07 20:12:23] <Wogglebug> (Turns out she's not a hipster, just happened to own a camera)
- [2013-08-07 20:12:32] <Clef> moose: she'd have to agree to the defense.
- [2013-08-07 20:12:41] <Wogglebug> Who /wouldn't/
- [2013-08-07 20:12:42] <Clef> And she knows she's not crazy or a murderer.
- [2013-08-07 20:13:02] <Clef> My intent was to show a bit of stubbornness.
- [2013-08-07 20:13:07] <Wogglebug> She should be able to figure whether an asylum or death via bears is better
- [2013-08-07 20:13:15] * Wogglebug is still running with the Soviet thing
- [2013-08-07 20:13:25] * Wogglebug doesn't understand Russia
- [2013-08-07 20:14:00] <thedeadlymoose> Are you... sure that you have to agree to the insanity defense?
- [2013-08-07 20:14:09] <thedeadlymoose> That... doesn't make a ton of sense. But if you know better, than disregard
- [2013-08-07 20:14:13] <thedeadlymoose> I am no expert here
- [2013-08-07 20:14:31] * Wogglebug heads over to the googlemobile
- [2013-08-07 20:14:33] <thedeadlymoose> I do, however, know that it stretches the imagination to the breaking point to put her on death row.
- [2013-08-07 20:14:40] <thedeadlymoose> Prison for life, sure
- [2013-08-07 20:14:56] <Nusquam> If the psychological state of the defendant is in question, I'm fairly sure a court can appoint a psychologist to examine them to determine if they're fit to stand trial.
- [2013-08-07 20:15:03] <Heiden> if you’re found competent to participate in your own defense, then yeah, your lawyers would have to have you on board with your own defense
- [2013-08-07 20:15:08] <thedeadlymoose> Here's what it takes to get a woman on death row
- [2013-08-07 20:15:11] <thedeadlymoose> http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/ind-woman-death-row-age-16-freed-article-1.1374564
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- [2013-08-07 20:16:29] <thedeadlymoose> Note that she's black, and there were accomplices, and clear premeditation, and everyone knows who she is in the areas in question. Poor candidate for recruitment.
- [2013-08-07 20:17:09] <thedeadlymoose> Even if you made her non-white, it still wouldn't be believable for that reason
- [2013-08-07 20:17:37] <thedeadlymoose> I mean, it /could/ be made believable, I'm sure, but it's just... in there
- [2013-08-07 20:17:54] <Wogglebug> Also, she stabbed a bible school lady.
- [2013-08-07 20:17:55] <thedeadlymoose> Foundation scientists would be able to look her up in a newspaper with ease because she's so out of the ordinary
- [2013-08-07 20:18:01] <Wogglebug> An old lady.
- [2013-08-07 20:18:02] <thedeadlymoose> Yeah, I was gonna say that too, Woggle
- [2013-08-07 20:18:12] <thedeadlymoose> This was an apparent murder of a boyfriend
- [2013-08-07 20:19:08] <thedeadlymoose> This is partly just a holdover from the D-Class Always Come From Death Row bullshit that no one acknowledges as real anymore.
- [2013-08-07 20:20:29] <Silber> D-Class are the people who fail the Pepsi Challenge.
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- [2013-08-07 20:21:24] <thedeadlymoose> afk
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- [2013-08-07 20:23:51] <Wogglebug> Hey guys, is it currently against the rules to downvote because you want something -ARC'd?
- [2013-08-07 20:25:43] <Silber> Isn't downvoting for any reason other than.article quality against the rules?
- [2013-08-07 20:26:10] <Wogglebug> I would think so, but I'm not sure whether it would be interpreted, perceived, or enforced as such.
- [2013-08-07 20:27:04] <Silber> Well, malicious downvoting is very hard to enforce.
- [2013-08-07 20:27:32] <Silber> Because usually you can't tell why someone voted.
- [2013-08-07 20:27:39] <Nusquam> A vote is a reflection of opinion about the contents of the article.
- [2013-08-07 20:28:01] <Wogglebug> Hmm. There's images in this forum thing. Not sure if that's an issue or not. http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-680212/idea-for-a-new-group-of-interest
- [2013-08-07 20:29:19] <Scantron> I'll edit them into collapsibles.
- [2013-08-07 20:29:37] <Wogglebug> Mkay
- [2013-08-07 20:30:05] <Nusquam> If someone said they voted because they wanted something -ARCed, an argument could be made that they're expressing an opinion about the article.
- [2013-08-07 20:30:07] <murphy_slaw> Wogglebug: is there a specific article in question with regard to ... malicious -ARCing?
- [2013-08-07 20:30:13] <Wogglebug> Oh, yeah.
- [2013-08-07 20:30:14] <Nusquam> That they don't like it and want it gone.
- [2013-08-07 20:30:30] <Nusquam> Or some permutation of that.
- [2013-08-07 20:30:40] <murphy_slaw> yeah, a downvote means "i don't think this should be on the mainlist"
- [2013-08-07 20:30:41] <Wogglebug> http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-76679/scp-105#post-1823978
- [2013-08-07 20:30:47] <Nusquam> So while a pretty useless comment to make, I don't think it's technically against the rules.
- [2013-08-07 20:31:03] <murphy_slaw> what happens to it after it's off the mainlist is up to staff for the most part so...
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- [2013-08-07 20:31:40] <Silber> Nusquam, what if your opinion on the article is that it's bad because its content was written by someone you don't like?
- [2013-08-07 20:31:50] <Wogglebug> lol
- [2013-08-07 20:31:58] <Nusquam> Then your opinion isn't actually about the content, is it?
- [2013-08-07 20:32:16] <Wogglebug> Nusq: They said they switched from up to down just for it to be ARC'd sooner.
- [2013-08-07 20:32:48] <murphy_slaw> wait, no
- [2013-08-07 20:32:54] <murphy_slaw> those are two different comments
- [2013-08-07 20:33:05] <Wogglebug> Huh?
- [2013-08-07 20:33:15] <murphy_slaw> grittz said they changed their vote from up to down so it would get rewritten
- [2013-08-07 20:33:26] <Wogglebug> Oh, yeah, woops.
- [2013-08-07 20:33:33] <Wogglebug> But it's the same idea.
- [2013-08-07 20:33:34] <murphy_slaw> drsevere replied and said he'd rather have it ARCed than rewritten
- [2013-08-07 20:33:57] * Wogglebug can't read
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- [2013-08-07 20:34:28] <Wogglebug> KENS WE NEED YOUR HIPSTER CAMERAS, STAT
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- [2013-08-07 20:35:03] <Jekeled> KENS WE NEED YOUR VINYL COLLECTION
- [2013-08-07 20:35:24] <Dr_Kens> Fuck you I don't have any hipster cameras.
- [2013-08-07 20:35:32] <Dr_Kens> All of my film cameras are work cameras.
- [2013-08-07 20:35:46] <Wogglebug> Fffffffffffffff
- [2013-08-07 20:35:47] <Dr_Kens> Suck my cock.
- [2013-08-07 20:35:51] <Nusquam> I don't think the vote's out of line.
- [2013-08-07 20:36:42] <Wogglebug> Mkay. Just wondering what people thought.
- [2013-08-07 20:36:47] <Wogglebug> Not too concerned myself.
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- [2013-08-07 20:42:56] <thedeadlymoose> Also, I don't think there's anything wrong with downvoting so it can get rewritten
- [2013-08-07 20:43:03] <thedeadlymoose> ...After he's gone
- [2013-08-07 20:43:13] <Dr_Kens> So can someone film me in on 105?
- [2013-08-07 20:43:15] <Dr_Kens> ...
- [2013-08-07 20:43:16] <Dr_Kens> *fill
- [2013-08-07 20:43:18] <Dr_Kens> ffs
- [2013-08-07 20:43:29] <Clef> it dropped to negatives then went back to +1
- [2013-08-07 20:43:31] <Clef> I did a rewrite
- [2013-08-07 20:43:33] <Clef> I want feedback
- [2013-08-07 20:43:48] <Dr_Kens> Ah, copy.
- [2013-08-07 20:46:10] <PeppersGhost> I'm not done reading it yet, but you jump between "it" and "her" in a couple of places and there are a few unnecessary commas.
- [2013-08-07 20:46:47] <FlameShirt> Team Iris is a super silly name. :P
- [2013-08-07 20:47:48] <thedeadlymoose> it doesn't bother me
- [2013-08-07 20:47:51] <thedeadlymoose> PeppersGhost
- [2013-08-07 20:47:53] <thedeadlymoose> That is either
- [2013-08-07 20:47:56] <thedeadlymoose> (A) my fault
- [2013-08-07 20:48:03] <thedeadlymoose> or (B) referring to 105-B, the camera, an 'it'
- [2013-08-07 20:48:20] <thedeadlymoose> there was one use of it that appeared to be referring to 105 & 105-B, I left it in there
- [2013-08-07 20:48:48] <thedeadlymoose> specifically, I changed everything to 'it' from 'her' then changed it back on realizing that Acquisition was unreadable.
- [2013-08-07 20:49:05] <thedeadlymoose> (because both 105 & 105-B are referred to as 'it')
- [2013-08-07 20:50:05] <thedeadlymoose> Also, Clef, some positives I didn't mention. I like that you blackboxed Dantessen's name. I like that 105 had her own sub-task force, never made sense to pair her with Able
- [2013-08-07 20:50:30] <thedeadlymoose> And I like it overall
- [2013-08-07 20:50:55] <thedeadlymoose> I also like the rethought escape attempt
- [2013-08-07 20:52:01] <PeppersGhost> Okay, finished it. I think it was very tastefully done.
- [2013-08-07 20:52:24] <PeppersGhost> This was the problematic bit:
- [2013-08-07 20:52:25] <PeppersGhost> "SCP-105 claimed to have been on the phone with the victim at the time of his murder, prompting her to hurry to his side: however, telephone records did not correspond to her story, making it a prime suspect in the murder"
- [2013-08-07 20:52:41] <PeppersGhost> should be "making her a prime suspect"
- [2013-08-07 20:53:15] <PeppersGhost> I'd be glad to edit it myself as long as everyone else is done poking it for the time being
- [2013-08-07 20:54:36] <thedeadlymoose> do it
- [2013-08-07 20:54:40] <thedeadlymoose> that one was my fault
- [2013-08-07 20:54:49] <thedeadlymoose> ugh
- [2013-08-07 20:54:58] <thedeadlymoose> > proofreader introduces new errors
- [2013-08-07 20:55:02] <thedeadlymoose> ._.
- [2013-08-07 20:55:04] <Clef> heh
- [2013-08-07 20:55:35] <thedeadlymoose> Still hate the death row thing, but obviously it didn't kill the previous version for me so it's not going to kill this one
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