Banjo-Tooie 70 Jiggy/No Hag 1 Early FAQ

Q: What is 70 Jiggy? What is No Hag 1 Early?
A: No. The definition of No Hag 1 Early is to get 70 Jiggies and beat Hag 1 without skipping the 70 Jiggy barrier to Hag 1. 70 Jiggy's definition is the same, except you do not need to open all of the world doors.

Q: What makes the 2 categories different routewise?
A: Right now, the only difference is that optimally for 70 Jiggy you clip past the 55 Jiggy door as well as Bit Clip through the 70 Jiggy Door instead of opening both doors, which would optimally save in the ballpark of 2 minutes or so. If another way to skip ToT is found that doesn't use DCW, then this category will change even further but if we didn't dcw to hag 1 we'd have to fight Klungo 3 and go through Tower of Tragedy, which combined is much slower then doing all of the other puzzles.

Q: How much faster is 70 Jiggy/No Hag 1 Early compared to No DCW?
A: I'm going to make a sheet on this eventually, but based on VERY rough timings I've done so far All Puzzles is faster by a little less then 10 minutes. This was a bit surprising to me since I expected the number to be around 10-15 minutes but I guess setting up the DCW and the Extra Puzzle take a lot more time then you'd think.

Q: What kind of tricks + glitches differentiate this from No DCW/BC?
A: Well thanks to the Delayed Cutscene Warp I warp to the room right before the final boss, which can skip both Klungo 2 and the need for Springy Step Shoes by warping to the room right before the final boss, which allows me to get to Quagmire without Springy Step Shoes. In addition, by getting clockworks before I even open Jolly Roger's Lagoon, I can do a trick called TDL Early (tutorial on how to here: http://www.twitch.tv/madtaz64/v/26479041), which if the name doesn't make it obvious, allows me to get into TerryDactyland early. This trick saves time because I can get enough Jiggies to do the JRL, TDL, and GI puzzles all in one go, which saves a trip to Jiggywiggy.

Because I skip learning Springy Step Shoes, I also do a trick called “Chompasaur Warp”, which allows me to do a clockwork warp through the door at the top of the Chompasaur Den in order to get to the top of the mountain. In addition, because I'm doing TerryDactyland before Jolly Roger's Lagoon, I also am doing a trick called Slit Clipping to get a Jinjo in the pool near the entrance (can be seen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MbRUk2htXY although I'll point out that I'm currently going to do it as Kazooie solo, since at least at the moment this trick is not RTA viable as BK combined) Normally, you need Talon Torpedo in order to get that Jinjo, but because I can't get that move until I go to JRL, this trick is the only way for me to get that Jinjo without having to do 2 trips.

In Jolly Roger's Lagoon, because I have clockworks for the entirety of the time I'm in the level now, I do a quickdive out of bounds right upon entering the level (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cqgBV9fcj0) in the ocean to get into the UFO without Talon Torpedo. It's barely a timesaver if at all, but it's too cool to not do, so I try to go for it every time anyways. The route I do changes slightly based on whether I get it or not, so some cool route variances are shown too!

Q: Is there a route for this?
A: Yes! There are multiple routes you can take for this category. Depending on how comfortable you feel with this game you might want to start out by just doing the No DCW route aside from just setting up DCW in GGM + WW, then DCWing at the end of the game. Otherwise if you are comfortable with doing TDL Early there's a couple routes you can do from there. There's the TDL in 1 Trip route: https://pastebin.com/vMKMXqjq but the one thing that allows for TDL to be in 1 trip as opposed to 2, the Slit Clip to get the Jinjo in the pool near the entrance without Talon Torpedo, is pretty hard to do, so if you don't feel comfortable with that you should also try out the TDL in 2 Trip route: https://pastebin.com/UgBZNiBn [OUTDATED, WILL PUT NEW ROUTE LATER]

If you just want a semibrief summary of how the tdl early routes make the route different I also made a short list of changes between All Puzzles and No DCW routes: https://pastebin.com/3G8zfXXu

Q: How solid do you think the route is? Do you think everything you’re doing is the fastest method?
A: I'd say at the moment it's pretty solid, although there's always likely something I overlooked, I recently noticed my route for Terrydactyland last year did Rocknuts in a slower order then it could have been and that I could have gotten Taxi Pack in River Passage right as I split up instead of after I deathwarped as Kazooie solo after learning Hatch, for example.

Q: Isn't it faster to dcw to [INSERT LOCATION HERE]
A: No. Using the Credits cutscene is definitely the way to go because you warp to the Gun Chamber, which is the only way to skip Tower of Tragedy besides warping to Hag 1. Warping to Hag 1 would only be faster if we didn't have to do all of the puzzles because of how long it takes to do puzzles. But then it wouldn't be called "All JiggyWiggy Puzzles" now would it?

Q: Why are you doing the DCW right after WitchyWorld (MORELIEKBITCHYWORLD)?
A: To get clockworks earlier then intended, which will allow me to do some things such as getting into and getting everything in TDL Early (tutorial on how to here: http://www.twitch.tv/madtaz64/v/26479041) skip springy step shoes, do JRL in one trip, and possibly more that I overlooked or forgot to mention!

Q: Wouldn't it be faster to DCW right after completing all of the puzzles?
A: Nope. I made a google doc of comparisons between my Clockworks Early route and the probable warp to credits route ( https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cKI_K2PBU47Oh-t8DrBO1qGbWQ9i--t0zjStmXgSmoE/ ) and so far my route is about 20+ seconds faster. There may or may not be more to find/route out/time and maybe something I overlooked I'm satisfied for now. Even if it DID turn out to be slower this route is 100x more interesting then just doing the no dcw route and tacking on DCW + a puzzle at the end.

Q: How long did this take to route out?
A: TOO. FUCKING. LONG. TDL was a nightmare because of the stage being a giant circle and where you spawn the amount of possibilities are endless. So far I’ve thought of well over 10 routes and god knows how many pages, timings, sleepless nights, and tears have been lost because of TDL Early. Cronikeys finding you don't need talon torpedo for TerryDactyland added about a few more of those on top of that. Here's all the pastebins + docs showcasing all the timing + testing I've done so far:
http://pastebin.com/KAp9SAa6
http://pastebin.com/EsfjK1mm
https://pastebin.com/SLKNsXKh
https://pastebin.com/fG9JTh2X
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wnKqRPX8xyFXF3Y6R4YAcwDAmWJw54g0AYtBBU2_-Ng/