Official Secrets

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<i>"Katharine Teresa Gun,</i>

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<i>"you are charged
with an offence</i>

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<i>"contrary to section 1,
subsection 1</i>

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<i>"of the Official Secrets Act
of 1989,</i>

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"in that you did knowingly
and intentionally

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"disclose top-secret
intelligence information

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"contrary to the said act."

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How do you plead?

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Guilty or not guilty?

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- What?
- The neighbours will hear.

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Let's move over.

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- Better?
- Better.

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<i>And what about
the situation</i>

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<i>of persuading the people?</i>

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<i>Because it's very,
to put it mildly,</i>

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<i>uncomfortable to go to war
with 73% against.</i>

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<i>If people are being asked today,</i>

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<i>"Do you support the war?"</i>

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<i>My answer to that
is we're not at war today.</i>

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<i>I think especially,
obviously, if the UN pass</i>

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<i>the second resolution,
as I believe they will</i>

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<i>if the inspectors carry on
saying he's not cooperating,</i>

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<i>I think public opinion
is in a different place.</i>

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<i>When your correspondent
was saying</i>

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<i>the war is inevitable,
war is not inevitable.</i>

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<i>It depends on Saddam.</i>

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<i>If he cooperates
with the inspectors,</i>

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<i>if he says
how much material he's got,</i>

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<i>if he cooperates fully with them,
then the issue's over.</i>

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<i>But he's not doing that
at the moment.</i>

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Bloody liar.

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They're all bloody liars.

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You know, actually,
I don't think they are.

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I don't think the weapons
inspectors are lying.

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<i>This and international terrorism</i>

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<i>are the two
big security threats...</i>

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- Want coffee?
- No, thanks.

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<i>We were told,
we were given to understand</i>

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<i>that what these inspectors
were gonna come up with was</i>

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<i>evidence of, uh, weapons
of mass destruction,</i>

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<i>chemical,
biological and nuclear.</i>

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<i>What we know is that
he has this material.</i>

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Oh, my God, we don't know that.
We don't know that.

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I mean, he just keeps
repeating the lie.

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You sure it's a lie?
Saddam's a psychopath.

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Yeah, well, just because
you're the prime minister,

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it doesn't mean you get
to make up your own facts.

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<i>Do you think you have
the goods on him now?</i>

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<i>I've got no doubt at all that
he's developing these weapons</i>

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<i>and that he poses a threat.</i>

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- Be at the cafe by 4:00.
- I can fetch you at 5:00.

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No, no, no. It's good.
I'll get the bus. I love you.

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Love you.

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Hey, Katharine.

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Did you tell Mark to call me?

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Did he call you?

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Yes...

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Did he take you to dinner?

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Yes.

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You know he has a place
in Devon.

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He wants to take me surfing
with his dog.

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- Is that a bad thing?
- No, it's a great dog.

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Okay.

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When was the last time
you got away?

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Oh, don't know,
three or four weeks ago.

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We went hiking in Yorkshire.

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Ooh. Shall we all go
hiking together?

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Yeah, that would be lovely.
With the dog?

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Mm.

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Oh!

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Oh, thank you.

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I'm starving.

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I've been here since 5:00

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listening to a Russian embassy staffer

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trying to bribe
a North Korean defector

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who's been downloading
some kinky shit.

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- Very arousing few hours.
- You're disgusting.

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It's for Queen and Country.

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MI6 thought the Korean
was one of ours.

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I just proved he's not.

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GCHQ, 1. MI6, 0.

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Katharine.

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I need your Beijing report
for the Foreign Office.

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They start trade talks
next week.

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Yeah, on it.

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Andy.

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Did you get this NSA e-mail?

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Are the Yanks really asking us
to dig up personal shit

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on UN Security Council delegates?

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"They want
the whole gamut of info

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"that could give
US policy makers an edge

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"in obtaining results
favourable to US goals."

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Christ, they wanna fix the vote.

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"This effort will probably peak
in the middle of next week

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"following the Secretary
of State's presentation

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"to the UN Security Council."

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Powell's gonna argue for war.

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And they're gonna blackmail
the smaller nations

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to make sure they get it. Fuck.

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Excuse me. Question.

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Yeah.

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Uh, this NSA memo,
our people approved it?

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Yes, that's why
it's been forwarded.

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The Americans want us to help them
get a UN resolution for war?

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By next week?

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It's a joint UK/USA operation.

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UKUSA. Right. Got it.

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Hey, ours not to reason why.

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Everything good today, Mrs Archer?

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Yes, thank you.
Very good. Very, very good.

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I'll see you again tomorrow,
yes?

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Yes.

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Thank you, dear.

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- Hey.
- Hey.

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You okay?

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Yeah, it's been a long day.

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I need ten minutes.
Want something to eat?

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No.

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You working this weekend?

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Could we go somewhere,
get out of town?

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Sorry, <i>janum,</i>
I'll get next weekend for sure.

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<i>Uh, a question for the President,</i>

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<i>if I may.</i>

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<i>What is the status, in your
view, of any second resolution?</i>

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<i>Is it something
that you think it's worth</i>

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<i>spending time and energy
trying to assemble?</i>

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<i>Just let me,
uh, reiterate what I just said.</i>

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<i>This is a matter of weeks,
not months.</i>

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<i>Any attempt to drag
the process on for months</i>

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<i>will be resisted
by the United States.</i>

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- Can we watch something else?
- No, no, this is important.

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<i>Secretary Powell
will make a strong case</i>

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<i>about the danger
of a armed Saddam Hussein</i>

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<i>and he will also talk
about Al Qaeda links.</i>

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Come on, there...
there are no credible links

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between Saddam and Al Qaeda.

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<i>...really do portend a danger...</i>

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- I'll turn it off.
- No, no, no, no, no.

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Please, I need to watch this.
I need to know what they're saying.

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I mean, yes.
Yes, Saddam is a dictator,

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but he is not a religious nut.

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I mean, why would he risk
arming Al Qaeda

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and have them turn against him?
It doesn't make any sense!

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Fine, but yelling at the TV
isn't going to make any difference.

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They can't bloody hear you.

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- Where you going?
- To read a book.

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<i>You see, my-my vision shifted
dramatically after September 11.</i>

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<i>I realised the world has changed.</i>

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<i>My most important obligation
is to protect</i>

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<i>the American people from further harm.</i>

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<i>And I will do that.</i>

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<i>Thank you all very much.</i>

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- Love you.
- Love you.

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Don't forget to check in
at the station.

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What are you gonna do?

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I don't know. Read a book.

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I'll be back by 7:00 latest.

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- Mr Gun. Signing in?
- Yes, thank you.

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When will you know
if you can stay?

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They don't say.

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Could be weeks.
Could be months.

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You never know with immigration,
do you?

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- I know.
- Thank you.

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Hi, Jasmine, it's Kath.

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Uh, are you around today?

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<i>I'd love to come and see you.</i>

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- Kat!
- Hi.

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Oh, come here.

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Hello.

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Targeting who?

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The UN Security Council.

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Particularly
the non-permanent members

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who could swing the vote
in favour of war.

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Jesus.

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Maybe it's time to quit.

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You know,
they say if you stay at GCHQ

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for more than five years,
you'll never leave.

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I've still got two to go then.

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So you've still got a conscience.

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Are you still organising
against the war?

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Does GCHQ have a problem
with that?

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- What? No.
- Give me your phone.

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I've already taken the battery out.

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- I called you from a payphone.
- Sorry.

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Go on.

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I just thought...

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if I could get you
a copy of the memo

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then maybe you could get
somebody to look it over.

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I don't know, a journalist,
someone in the anti-war movement.

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Look, if the press think
it's nothing, fine.

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At least my conscience is clear.

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Your conscience?

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Kat, you're asking me
to collude in a breach

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of the Official Secrets Act.
Some call that treason.

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I am not trying to overthrow
my government.

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I just think
if someone in the press saw it

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they might ask more questions
about what the Americans

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are asking this country to do.

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Hey, Kat, they're sending me
and Dan to London

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to learn Farsi.

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Wow, Farsi. Congrats.

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- How many languages now?
- Eight.

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She's a freakin' super spy.

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Andy, where's my Pyongyang report?

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- Uh, one more hour.
- Yeah, just get it done.

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- When do you leave?
- Two weeks.

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You'll have to come visit me.

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Is that the Foreign Office report?

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- Uh, it's a rough draft.
- Well, finish it.

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Defence section needs extra hands.

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I said I'd send you over there
this afternoon.

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Okay, will do.

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<i>What we're giving you
are facts and conclusions</i>

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<i>based on solid intelligence.</i>

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<i>The issue before us
is not how much time</i>

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<i>we are willing to give
the inspectors,</i>

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<i>but how much longer
are we willing to put up</i>

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<i>with Iraq's non-compliance
before we as a council,</i>

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<i>we as a United Nations say enough.</i>

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<i>Enough.</i>

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<i>We have first-hand descriptions</i>

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<i>of biological weapons factories
on wheels and on rails.</i>

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<i>The trucks and train cars
are easily moved</i>

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<i>and are designed to evade
detection by inspectors.</i>

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<i>Although Iraq's
mobile production programme</i>

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<i>began in the mid-1990s,</i>

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<i>UN inspectors at the time
only had vague hints</i>

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<i>of such programmes.</i>

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<i>Confirmation came later
in the year 2000.</i>

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<i>The source was an eyewitness.</i>

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<i>An Iraqi chemical engineer</i>

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<i>who supervised
one of these facilities.</i>

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Hi.

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I'm gonna watch some football.
Do you mind?

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No. Go for it.

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<i>From the north, the south,
the east and the west,</i>

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<i>from the left, the right,</i>

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<i>from the radical
to the uncommitted,</i>

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<i>they came.</i>

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<i>Well, we can argue forever
about the validity of opinion polls,</i>

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<i>but what surely matters today</i>

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<i>is that this proposed war
by Britain</i>

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00:17:02,855 --> 00:17:05,768
<i>is historically unpopular</i>

244
00:17:05,900 --> 00:17:08,187
<i>and the mother of all
focus groups has descended...</i>

245
00:17:08,319 --> 00:17:11,107
Hey, Martin. We're now doing
some real reporting.

246
00:17:11,239 --> 00:17:13,481
It's huge.
Police are saying over 500,000.

247
00:17:13,616 --> 00:17:15,653
Organisers are saying
over two million.

248
00:17:15,785 --> 00:17:17,026
So it will be a million then?

249
00:17:17,161 --> 00:17:18,902
Well, it's everywhere.
Every country.

250
00:17:19,038 --> 00:17:21,121
Biggest demonstration
in human history.

251
00:17:21,249 --> 00:17:23,912
Roger, I filed this story
seven times.

252
00:17:24,043 --> 00:17:26,786
And seven times I have told you
I'm not going to print it.

253
00:17:26,921 --> 00:17:28,412
Ed, this paper supports the war.

254
00:17:28,548 --> 00:17:30,130
Your sources support the war, Kamal.

255
00:17:30,258 --> 00:17:32,500
All I'm asking is that
mine be given equal time.

256
00:17:32,635 --> 00:17:33,654
- Fair enough.
- Thank you.

257
00:17:33,678 --> 00:17:34,839
Well, what do they say, Ed?

258
00:17:34,971 --> 00:17:36,837
That intelligence
is being manipulated

259
00:17:36,973 --> 00:17:39,340
to support an invasion
that Bush Junior's been pushing for

260
00:17:39,475 --> 00:17:41,762
ever since Saddam tried to kill
his daddy in '93.

261
00:17:41,894 --> 00:17:43,601
Oh, come on,
your source is retired.

262
00:17:43,729 --> 00:17:45,311
My source is ex-CIA!

263
00:17:45,439 --> 00:17:46,805
He talks to agents every day

264
00:17:46,941 --> 00:17:48,603
and he's talking to me on the record!

265
00:17:48,734 --> 00:17:51,693
Named source! Christ!

266
00:17:51,821 --> 00:17:53,778
If you're gonna encourage
a country to go to war,

267
00:17:53,906 --> 00:17:55,842
perhaps you should spend
some time on the front lines yourself.

268
00:17:55,866 --> 00:17:58,449
- That is a cheap shot, Ed.
- Is it?

269
00:17:58,578 --> 00:17:59,858
We're the press, for God's sake,

270
00:17:59,954 --> 00:18:01,661
not a fucking PR agency
for Tony Blair.

271
00:18:01,789 --> 00:18:03,701
- That's enough!
- All right!

272
00:18:04,875 --> 00:18:06,707
You, go back to the States.

273
00:18:06,836 --> 00:18:08,188
I want you to find me something
from a source

274
00:18:08,212 --> 00:18:09,703
who hasn't already retired

275
00:18:09,839 --> 00:18:11,421
and then maybe I'll rethink it.

276
00:18:11,549 --> 00:18:13,151
You're doing a great job,
but we just need some more...

277
00:18:13,175 --> 00:18:15,383
Yes, Peter.
Fuck you very much.

278
00:18:15,511 --> 00:18:16,922
And fewer words!

279
00:18:17,054 --> 00:18:20,263
If I ask for 500,
don't send me 3000!

280
00:18:20,391 --> 00:18:23,099
This paper needs to take
its finger out of its arse

281
00:18:23,227 --> 00:18:25,514
and stop taking
Tony Blair's press releases

282
00:18:25,646 --> 00:18:27,137
at face fucking value!

283
00:18:27,273 --> 00:18:29,073
- Hear, hear.
- Abso-fucking-lutely.

284
00:18:29,191 --> 00:18:31,023
- Christ!
- Yeah, too bloody right.

285
00:18:34,405 --> 00:18:36,237
Brighty, where's my piece

286
00:18:36,365 --> 00:18:39,028
comparing Saddam to Milosevic?
I need 400 words.

287
00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,447
Yeah. It's not really
a 400-word topic, Rog.

288
00:18:41,579 --> 00:18:44,162
Yeah, it is. We were right
to intervene in the Balkans.

289
00:18:44,290 --> 00:18:46,970
- We should do the same in Iraq.
- Iraq's a little more complicated.

290
00:18:47,084 --> 00:18:49,451
- You've got Sunni and Shia...
- Oh, fuck Sonny & Cher!

291
00:18:49,587 --> 00:18:51,704
What is this? "I got you, babe"?

292
00:18:51,839 --> 00:18:54,297
Just give me 400 words
the average reader will understand.

293
00:18:54,425 --> 00:18:56,382
Milosevic bad. Saddam bad.

294
00:18:56,510 --> 00:18:59,378
Just write the fucking story.
Stop overthinking it.

295
00:18:59,513 --> 00:19:00,594
All right.

296
00:19:05,728 --> 00:19:06,728
That was helpful.

297
00:19:06,854 --> 00:19:08,720
Just write the piece
as you see it, Martin,

298
00:19:08,856 --> 00:19:11,189
and we'll cut it down later
if we need to, all right?

299
00:19:11,317 --> 00:19:13,104
Okay. Thank you, Peter.

300
00:19:17,281 --> 00:19:18,442
Sonny & Cher.

301
00:19:20,076 --> 00:19:22,363
Martin Bright.

302
00:19:22,495 --> 00:19:24,862
<i>I've got something
you need to see.</i>

303
00:19:24,997 --> 00:19:27,284
<i>It's big, Martin, really big.</i>

304
00:19:29,585 --> 00:19:30,621
Yvonne?

305
00:19:36,550 --> 00:19:37,666
Yvonne?

306
00:19:43,099 --> 00:19:46,263
Martin. So good to see you.

307
00:19:46,394 --> 00:19:48,386
In an underground car park?

308
00:19:48,521 --> 00:19:51,138
It's a little Deep Throat,
don't you think?

309
00:19:51,273 --> 00:19:53,060
- There's no signal down here.
- Right.

310
00:19:55,653 --> 00:19:57,610
Wait till you see this.

311
00:20:11,210 --> 00:20:14,044
- Who gave you this?
- Can't say.

312
00:20:14,171 --> 00:20:15,273
There's no info saying who sent it.

313
00:20:15,297 --> 00:20:17,289
This could have been
written by anyone.

314
00:20:18,801 --> 00:20:21,043
- That's who wrote it.
- Well.

315
00:20:22,054 --> 00:20:23,636
Frank Koza.

316
00:20:23,764 --> 00:20:26,427
- Who the fuck is Frank Koza?
- NSA.

317
00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:28,926
And this I know
because the letters NSA

318
00:20:29,061 --> 00:20:32,020
have been written on the back
with a leaky ballpoint.

319
00:20:32,148 --> 00:20:34,014
My source says
the header wasn't printed

320
00:20:34,150 --> 00:20:36,483
to protect the recipients
at GCHQ.

321
00:20:38,738 --> 00:20:39,738
When did you get it?

322
00:20:39,822 --> 00:20:41,108
- Two weeks ago.
- Two weeks?

323
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,527
I gave it to the <i>Mirror</i> first.
Sorry.

324
00:20:43,659 --> 00:20:45,776
Jesus. Why didn't they run it?

325
00:20:45,911 --> 00:20:48,119
- They thought it was fake.
- No shit.

326
00:20:48,247 --> 00:20:51,206
- Is your source NSA?
- No. A friend of the recipient.

327
00:20:51,333 --> 00:20:53,165
- A good friend.
- A friend of a friend?

328
00:20:53,294 --> 00:20:56,253
A good friend
of a trusted friend.

329
00:20:56,380 --> 00:20:57,712
I'm sure it's real.

330
00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,753
- Then why don't you write the story?
- Oh, come on, Martin.

331
00:21:00,885 --> 00:21:03,468
I'm anti-war.
You're with <i>The Observer.</i>

332
00:21:04,764 --> 00:21:06,847
Just check it out.

333
00:21:21,614 --> 00:21:23,633
<i>NSA press office.
How may I assist you?</i>

334
00:21:23,657 --> 00:21:24,864
Yes, hi, hello there.

335
00:21:24,992 --> 00:21:27,200
This is Martin Bright
from <i>The Observer</i> in London.

336
00:21:27,328 --> 00:21:30,992
Um, I'd like to arrange an interview
with Mr Frank Koza.

337
00:21:31,123 --> 00:21:33,365
May I speak to his office, please?

338
00:21:33,501 --> 00:21:36,665
<i>- I'm sorry, Mr Bright?</i>
- Martin Bright, yes.

339
00:21:36,796 --> 00:21:38,253
<i>Yes. Who did you want again?</i>

340
00:21:38,380 --> 00:21:41,873
Frank Koza, "Chief of Staff,
Regional Targets."

341
00:21:42,009 --> 00:21:43,716
<i>Mr Bright, I'm afraid
we can't confirm</i>

342
00:21:43,844 --> 00:21:45,836
<i>the names of people
who work here.</i>

343
00:21:45,971 --> 00:21:48,964
<i>Could you give me a little more detail
about the story you're working on?</i>

344
00:21:49,099 --> 00:21:50,099
Uh, well, no.

345
00:21:50,184 --> 00:21:54,178
That's something I'd need to talk
to Mr Koza about directly, I'm afraid.

346
00:21:54,313 --> 00:21:58,182
<i>I see. Well, then I'm afraid
I'm not sure I can help you.</i>

347
00:21:58,317 --> 00:22:02,106
<i>When you have a little more detail,
please feel free to call back.</i>

348
00:22:02,238 --> 00:22:03,399
Yeah, well...

349
00:22:04,865 --> 00:22:06,356
Hello?

350
00:22:06,492 --> 00:22:09,200
- You rang the NSA press office?
- Yeah.

351
00:22:09,328 --> 00:22:10,364
They have a press office.

352
00:22:10,496 --> 00:22:12,096
I thought that
was a good place to start.

353
00:22:12,164 --> 00:22:13,391
But you didn't tell them anything?

354
00:22:13,415 --> 00:22:15,577
No, Peter.
I just asked for Frank Koza.

355
00:22:15,709 --> 00:22:17,229
Because if this is real,
you could go to jail

356
00:22:17,253 --> 00:22:20,041
just for having it in your possession.

357
00:22:20,172 --> 00:22:21,983
I'm not letting this go.
It's too good a story.

358
00:22:22,007 --> 00:22:23,339
I agree, but if you get it wrong

359
00:22:23,467 --> 00:22:25,584
it will sink you,
it will sink the paper.

360
00:22:25,719 --> 00:22:27,585
I'd like to get
a credible intelligence expert

361
00:22:27,721 --> 00:22:29,713
- to offer a view on the language.
- Yeah.

362
00:22:29,849 --> 00:22:32,432
And I thought you could
run it by your MI6 contact.

363
00:22:33,894 --> 00:22:35,726
- I don't have an MI6 contact.
- Sorry.

364
00:22:35,855 --> 00:22:37,892
I meant your tennis club friend.

365
00:22:38,732 --> 00:22:39,939
Sure.

366
00:22:40,067 --> 00:22:41,683
I'll take it to Admiral Wilkinson.

367
00:22:41,819 --> 00:22:45,654
Be careful. Before we risk
a D-notice against publication

368
00:22:45,781 --> 00:22:48,569
I'd actually like confirmation
that Frank Koza exists.

369
00:22:49,159 --> 00:22:50,775
Do you think it's authentic?

370
00:22:50,911 --> 00:22:54,245
Well, certainly, the... the words
used, uh, "topi" for example...

371
00:22:54,373 --> 00:22:56,933
Few outside of the security apparatus
would know what that means.

372
00:22:57,001 --> 00:22:58,037
What does it mean?

373
00:22:58,168 --> 00:23:00,330
"Target of primary interest."

374
00:23:00,462 --> 00:23:03,671
And this term, "QRC surge effort".

375
00:23:03,799 --> 00:23:05,631
That's NSA military speak

376
00:23:05,759 --> 00:23:09,343
for significant intensification
of surveillance operations.

377
00:23:09,471 --> 00:23:11,508
And this, where they ask

378
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:16,180
for "valuable information
from accesses in your product lines."

379
00:23:16,312 --> 00:23:19,271
Product lines
are intelligence sources.

380
00:23:19,398 --> 00:23:22,482
So it's been written by someone
who's familiar with security speak,

381
00:23:22,610 --> 00:23:24,522
but that doesn't mean
it's definitely NSA.

382
00:23:24,653 --> 00:23:27,191
True, but there are
no obvious amateur mistakes.

383
00:23:27,323 --> 00:23:29,656
- Have you heard of Frank Koza?
- No.

384
00:23:32,286 --> 00:23:35,450
Uh, Paul, if we, if we wanted
to confirm that he exists...

385
00:23:35,581 --> 00:23:37,948
Oh, sorry.
Uh, I couldn't help you do that.

386
00:23:38,083 --> 00:23:39,227
Yeah, but if we wanted
to confirm that he...

387
00:23:39,251 --> 00:23:41,413
Well, my own sources
wouldn't ever trust me again.

388
00:23:42,755 --> 00:23:44,246
Understood.

389
00:23:45,466 --> 00:23:46,502
Understood.

390
00:23:49,553 --> 00:23:51,920
- What?
<i>- Ed, Martin Bright.</i>

391
00:23:52,056 --> 00:23:54,139
Martin, Christ,
I just got back to DC.

392
00:23:54,266 --> 00:23:55,848
Sorry, Peter and I
have something urgent

393
00:23:55,976 --> 00:23:56,995
that we'd like to run by you.

394
00:23:57,019 --> 00:23:59,011
Are you on speaker?

395
00:23:59,146 --> 00:24:00,512
We are now. Hey, uh...

396
00:24:00,648 --> 00:24:03,561
Peter, you need to tell Roger
to publish what I'm filing.

397
00:24:03,692 --> 00:24:06,605
This paper can't be seen
to be supporting a war

398
00:24:06,737 --> 00:24:09,299
that we should be doing everything
in our power to expose as a con.

399
00:24:09,323 --> 00:24:11,861
<i>A neocon giant fucking con!</i>

400
00:24:11,992 --> 00:24:13,984
Ed, that's why we're phoning.
We need your help.

401
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,111
We have, uh,
something that might corroborate

402
00:24:16,246 --> 00:24:17,908
these things you've been saying.

403
00:24:28,634 --> 00:24:30,125
Hey. Oh, sorry.

404
00:24:31,303 --> 00:24:32,714
- Do you wanna get lunch?
- What?

405
00:24:32,846 --> 00:24:34,382
Lunch. Eat. Now. Yes.

406
00:24:34,515 --> 00:24:37,223
Oh, no, I'm fine, thanks.

407
00:24:37,351 --> 00:24:39,263
- Are you all right?
- Yeah. Yeah. I'm good.

408
00:24:39,395 --> 00:24:40,931
It, um...

409
00:24:41,063 --> 00:24:43,476
This new BBC poll, it says that
less than one in ten people

410
00:24:43,607 --> 00:24:46,771
think it's right to attack Iraq
without a UN resolution.

411
00:24:46,902 --> 00:24:49,736
Which is why that memo was sent.
They need to twist arms.

412
00:24:49,863 --> 00:24:51,466
I don't think
it will make any difference.

413
00:24:51,490 --> 00:24:52,981
Most of the world is against them.

414
00:24:53,117 --> 00:24:54,528
You wanna eat, eat.

415
00:24:58,664 --> 00:25:01,476
<i>National Security
Agency. How may I direct your call?</i>

416
00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:03,853
Hello,
I'm returning Frank Koza's call.

417
00:25:03,877 --> 00:25:05,493
My secretary said it was urgent.

418
00:25:05,629 --> 00:25:07,416
<i>I'm sorry.
Who are you trying to reach?</i>

419
00:25:07,548 --> 00:25:09,961
Frank Koza. Mr Frank Koza.

420
00:25:10,092 --> 00:25:13,927
<i>Sir, I'm sorry, there's no one
by that name in the directory, sir.</i>

421
00:25:14,054 --> 00:25:17,343
Oh, well. That's odd.
He, uh, he called me.

422
00:25:17,474 --> 00:25:20,888
<i>I'm sorry, but I'll need
an extension number.</i>

423
00:25:21,020 --> 00:25:22,602
<i>Do you have an extension number?</i>

424
00:25:22,730 --> 00:25:25,063
Uh, nah.

425
00:25:26,525 --> 00:25:28,687
<i>Is there anything else
I can do for you?</i>

426
00:25:28,819 --> 00:25:31,778
No. No.
Thank you. Thank you.

427
00:25:31,905 --> 00:25:34,568
<i>- You have a nice day, sir.</i>
- You too.

428
00:25:36,035 --> 00:25:37,367
Fuck off.

429
00:25:37,494 --> 00:25:40,703
So I read the, uh,
weapons inspector's report.

430
00:25:40,831 --> 00:25:42,868
Oh, congratulations.

431
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,287
That's more than most MP's have done.

432
00:25:45,419 --> 00:25:48,253
- Well, shit, that's depressing.
- Mm-hmm. It is.

433
00:25:48,380 --> 00:25:50,542
Look, there are a few
pre-98 chemical weapons

434
00:25:50,674 --> 00:25:52,569
which have yet to be accounted for,
but inspectors said

435
00:25:52,593 --> 00:25:54,004
they found absolutely no evidence

436
00:25:54,136 --> 00:25:56,002
of an active chemical
or biological programme.

437
00:25:56,138 --> 00:25:57,096
Correct.

438
00:25:57,097 --> 00:26:00,135
And yet Colin Powell presented
clear evidence of mobile labs.

439
00:26:00,267 --> 00:26:03,260
His evidence may be based
on poor human intel

440
00:26:03,395 --> 00:26:04,727
from an Iraqi dissident.

441
00:26:04,855 --> 00:26:06,187
Really?

442
00:26:06,315 --> 00:26:09,308
The dissident isn't our product
and should not be seen as our product.

443
00:26:10,527 --> 00:26:12,610
Whose product is he then?

444
00:26:14,239 --> 00:26:17,482
Look, Peter, I didn't say this,

445
00:26:17,618 --> 00:26:19,951
but there is concern
in certain quarters

446
00:26:20,079 --> 00:26:23,197
that intelligence
may be being manipulated

447
00:26:23,332 --> 00:26:24,914
to take this country to war.

448
00:26:25,042 --> 00:26:26,749
So why don't you tell
your journalists

449
00:26:26,877 --> 00:26:29,244
to stop being so bloody loyal
to Downing Street

450
00:26:29,379 --> 00:26:31,166
and start doing their job?

451
00:26:33,008 --> 00:26:34,008
Okay.

452
00:26:37,930 --> 00:26:40,843
Okay, what if I had evidence
that the NSA

453
00:26:40,974 --> 00:26:43,512
requested GCHQ to help monitor
private communications

454
00:26:43,644 --> 00:26:45,852
of the UN Security Council delegates?

455
00:26:45,979 --> 00:26:47,811
- To what end?
- Bluntly,

456
00:26:47,940 --> 00:26:50,057
to blackmail them into voting for war.

457
00:26:50,192 --> 00:26:51,524
I'm not with GCHQ.

458
00:26:51,652 --> 00:26:53,484
You're MI6,
you're on the same team.

459
00:26:53,612 --> 00:26:54,714
How did you hear about this?

460
00:26:54,738 --> 00:26:56,479
A UN resolution for war

461
00:26:56,615 --> 00:26:58,857
would cover everyone's arse,
wouldn't it?

462
00:26:58,992 --> 00:27:01,985
No more asking your team
to sex up evidence of WMDs

463
00:27:02,121 --> 00:27:04,704
or to back-dodgy claims that
Britain was about to be attacked

464
00:27:04,832 --> 00:27:06,869
by Iraq within 45 minutes.

465
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,162
And no chance of anyone
being charged with a war crime

466
00:27:09,294 --> 00:27:11,035
if it all goes tits up.

467
00:27:12,339 --> 00:27:13,671
What are you asking me, Peter?

468
00:27:13,799 --> 00:27:16,963
I'm asking if you can confirm

469
00:27:17,094 --> 00:27:20,633
whether the NSA instructed GCHQ

470
00:27:20,764 --> 00:27:23,472
to assist in spying
on Security Council delegates?

471
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,223
You know I can't answer that.

472
00:27:27,354 --> 00:27:29,971
To do so would put me in breach
of the Official Secrets Act.

473
00:27:30,107 --> 00:27:32,599
To deny it would not.

474
00:27:34,486 --> 00:27:38,355
Well, I can neither confirm
nor deny.

475
00:27:41,952 --> 00:27:43,534
Okay.

476
00:27:44,746 --> 00:27:45,827
Let's play.

477
00:27:46,999 --> 00:27:49,366
- Change ends, idiot.
- Yes.

478
00:27:51,211 --> 00:27:52,702
Your serve.

479
00:27:52,838 --> 00:27:55,751
So the head of the CIA
tells Bush it's a slam dunk

480
00:27:55,883 --> 00:27:58,546
that Saddam has weapons
of mass destruction.

481
00:27:58,677 --> 00:28:00,293
- A slam dunk.
- Yes.

482
00:28:00,429 --> 00:28:02,762
- And that's not true?
- No.

483
00:28:02,890 --> 00:28:05,303
Meaning Saddam definitely
does not have weapons

484
00:28:05,434 --> 00:28:07,551
of mass destruction
or he may not.

485
00:28:07,686 --> 00:28:10,895
Meaning the intelligence
is sketchy at best

486
00:28:11,023 --> 00:28:12,605
and manufactured at worst.

487
00:28:12,733 --> 00:28:14,645
And Tenet knows that?

488
00:28:14,776 --> 00:28:17,439
I've no doubt he knows that.

489
00:28:17,571 --> 00:28:19,984
I was with the agency 24 years.

490
00:28:20,115 --> 00:28:23,358
I can tell you, folks over there
are really angry about this.

491
00:28:23,493 --> 00:28:24,779
Why?

492
00:28:24,912 --> 00:28:26,574
"Why?"

493
00:28:26,705 --> 00:28:28,683
Because the majority
of the analysts do not believe

494
00:28:28,707 --> 00:28:31,450
it's a slam dunk,
but no one wants to hear that.

495
00:28:32,419 --> 00:28:34,285
Not even the press.

496
00:28:34,421 --> 00:28:36,879
- Sorry, Mel.
- I'm sorry.

497
00:28:37,007 --> 00:28:38,919
I'm just mad as hell.

498
00:28:40,677 --> 00:28:42,259
Listen, I wanted to talk
to you today

499
00:28:42,387 --> 00:28:46,051
because I think I might
finally be onto something that...

500
00:28:46,183 --> 00:28:49,847
that really supports what
you've been saying for months.

501
00:28:49,978 --> 00:28:52,436
I need to talk to a man
called Frank Koza.

502
00:28:55,442 --> 00:28:57,308
He's NSA.

503
00:28:57,444 --> 00:28:59,356
Head of Regional Targets.

504
00:29:01,823 --> 00:29:03,030
You know him?

505
00:29:04,910 --> 00:29:07,072
I'm sorry, Ed.

506
00:29:07,204 --> 00:29:09,742
I can't give out
that kind of information.

507
00:29:31,853 --> 00:29:33,435
- What are you doing here?
- I'm sorry.

508
00:29:33,563 --> 00:29:34,874
- I didn't wanna call.
- How long have you been here?

509
00:29:34,898 --> 00:29:36,178
We're not supposed
to be meeting.

510
00:29:36,275 --> 00:29:38,517
I know, I've just...

511
00:29:38,652 --> 00:29:40,985
I've been following the news
and I haven't seen

512
00:29:41,113 --> 00:29:42,775
or heard anything for three weeks.

513
00:29:42,906 --> 00:29:44,259
Okay, well,
I've given it to my contact

514
00:29:44,283 --> 00:29:46,149
and apparently,
she's having a very hard time

515
00:29:46,285 --> 00:29:48,285
getting the papers
to believe that it's not a fake.

516
00:29:50,455 --> 00:29:52,617
Oh, uh...

517
00:29:52,749 --> 00:29:55,583
Well, maybe that's okay.

518
00:29:55,711 --> 00:29:56,918
You know, I...

519
00:29:57,045 --> 00:29:59,607
Look, I mean, all of the polls said
everyone's against the war anyway,

520
00:29:59,631 --> 00:30:01,793
and I...
And I've just been thinking...

521
00:30:01,925 --> 00:30:05,043
Look, I...
I think that I acted too rashly

522
00:30:05,178 --> 00:30:06,589
on-on impulse. I didn't think...

523
00:30:06,722 --> 00:30:08,088
Jesus, Katharine, is it a fake?

524
00:30:08,223 --> 00:30:10,886
- Of course it's not a fake! It's real.
- Well, then just go home!

525
00:30:11,018 --> 00:30:14,056
Okay, don't talk about this
to anyone, ever!

526
00:30:14,187 --> 00:30:15,598
Just...

527
00:30:17,607 --> 00:30:20,315
- Sorry.
- It's out of our hands now.

528
00:30:22,154 --> 00:30:23,154
Sorry.

529
00:30:24,990 --> 00:30:28,324
The truth is, the whole document
could be a fake.

530
00:30:28,452 --> 00:30:30,785
But we're satisfied
the language used is real.

531
00:30:30,912 --> 00:30:32,869
- It's fascinating.
- Yeah.

532
00:30:35,292 --> 00:30:37,955
Is this document
actually in your possession?

533
00:30:38,086 --> 00:30:41,204
Well, if it were, I'd be in breach of
the Official Secrets Act, wouldn't I?

534
00:30:43,216 --> 00:30:44,976
So based on what might be
in this document...

535
00:30:45,010 --> 00:30:46,738
- That you don't have.
- That I don't yet have.

536
00:30:46,762 --> 00:30:48,362
But that you want to print
in your paper.

537
00:30:48,430 --> 00:30:50,638
If you don't issue
a D-notice against publication.

538
00:30:50,766 --> 00:30:52,160
Well, which I will most certainly do

539
00:30:52,184 --> 00:30:54,301
if I think that publication
might in any way

540
00:30:54,436 --> 00:30:57,975
endanger the lives
of British people or British forces.

541
00:30:58,106 --> 00:30:59,768
- Understood.
- Good.

542
00:31:01,651 --> 00:31:02,651
Go on.

543
00:31:03,945 --> 00:31:07,814
Would you say
it were likely real or a forgery?

544
00:31:07,949 --> 00:31:10,191
What do you think?

545
00:31:10,327 --> 00:31:12,068
I think it could be a fake

546
00:31:12,204 --> 00:31:14,196
put out
by the anti-war movement.

547
00:31:15,791 --> 00:31:18,499
Or by a foreign agency
to embarrass the US.

548
00:31:18,627 --> 00:31:21,745
- Which agency?
- The Russians.

549
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,399
I mean,
the French oppose the war, too,

550
00:31:23,423 --> 00:31:24,789
but I don't think they'd do this.

551
00:31:24,925 --> 00:31:27,463
I think you might be
overthinking it as usual, Martin.

552
00:31:27,594 --> 00:31:29,881
- Meaning?
- You tell me.

553
00:31:32,182 --> 00:31:34,720
Well, meaning it could be
exactly what it says it is.

554
00:31:38,188 --> 00:31:40,350
You know, Martin,
I believe that all information

555
00:31:40,482 --> 00:31:44,101
collected in the name
of the public should be made public.

556
00:31:45,278 --> 00:31:48,191
The only question is, when?

557
00:31:48,323 --> 00:31:51,782
But in this case, I don't have
the luxury of time, Admiral.

558
00:31:51,910 --> 00:31:54,027
Powell just made
a very strong case for war.

559
00:31:55,330 --> 00:31:56,696
Yes, I see.

560
00:32:00,502 --> 00:32:03,370
I have also always believed

561
00:32:03,505 --> 00:32:06,373
that censorship, when called for,

562
00:32:06,508 --> 00:32:10,627
should be based
on security issues alone.

563
00:32:12,264 --> 00:32:14,802
Not on whether a news report
might embarrass a government.

564
00:32:20,188 --> 00:32:21,304
Thank you, Admiral.

565
00:32:22,691 --> 00:32:25,229
<i>Ed, it's Edie
from the London office.</i>

566
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,147
<i>I got a weird message for you</i>

567
00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:28,941
<i>from someone
who wouldn't give his name.</i>

568
00:32:29,072 --> 00:32:32,565
<i>He said you should call
extension 6727.</i>

569
00:32:32,701 --> 00:32:35,535
<i>Makes no sense to me,
but maybe to you.</i>

570
00:32:35,662 --> 00:32:38,450
<i>6727. Good luck.</i>

571
00:32:38,582 --> 00:32:39,789
- 6727.
<i>- Bye-bye.</i>

572
00:32:39,916 --> 00:32:44,081
6727. 6727. 6727.

573
00:32:49,384 --> 00:32:51,250
6727.

574
00:32:54,139 --> 00:32:56,552
<i>NSA.
How may I direct your call?</i>

575
00:32:56,683 --> 00:33:00,176
Hello. Extension 6727, please.

576
00:33:00,312 --> 00:33:01,974
<i>6727?</i>

577
00:33:02,105 --> 00:33:03,846
6727, yes.

578
00:33:03,982 --> 00:33:05,098
<i>One moment.</i>

579
00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:08,959
<i>Frank Koza's office.</i>

580
00:33:10,530 --> 00:33:12,522
Hello, may I speak
to Mr Frank Koza, please?

581
00:33:12,657 --> 00:33:15,946
<i>- Who shall I say is calling?</i>
- I can't say. Just put me through.

582
00:33:16,077 --> 00:33:17,158
<i>Yes, sir.</i>

583
00:33:19,247 --> 00:33:20,533
<i>Hello?</i>

584
00:33:22,626 --> 00:33:24,959
Mr Koza? Mr Frank Koza?

585
00:33:25,086 --> 00:33:27,578
<i>Yes. Who's calling?</i>

586
00:33:27,714 --> 00:33:29,580
Mr Koza, my name is Ed Vulliamy.

587
00:33:29,716 --> 00:33:32,379
I work for <i>The Observer</i>
newspaper in London.

588
00:33:32,511 --> 00:33:35,970
I wanted to ask you about a memo
you sent to GCHQ.

589
00:33:39,726 --> 00:33:41,058
Mr Koza?

590
00:33:45,148 --> 00:33:48,107
- Do you think this is real?
<i>- Yes, they put me through.</i>

591
00:33:48,235 --> 00:33:50,022
- To Frank Koza?
- Yes.

592
00:33:50,153 --> 00:33:52,110
And you spoke
to him directly, right, Ed?

593
00:33:52,239 --> 00:33:54,822
<i>Well, we didn't exactly
have a conversation.</i>

594
00:33:54,950 --> 00:33:57,067
Did you speak to him or not?
Yes or no, Ed? Jesus.

595
00:33:57,202 --> 00:33:59,785
<i>Yes, but he cut me off when
I said I worked for</i> The Observer.

596
00:33:59,913 --> 00:34:02,576
But you're sure that he exists,
right, Ed?

597
00:34:02,707 --> 00:34:04,118
<i>Hell yes, I'm sure!</i>

598
00:34:04,251 --> 00:34:07,289
I said, "Mr Koza?"
He said, "Yes, who's calling?"

599
00:34:07,420 --> 00:34:08,831
All right. Thank you, Ed.

600
00:34:08,964 --> 00:34:11,001
Try not to fuck this one up, Rog.

601
00:34:11,132 --> 00:34:13,124
- Fuck off.
<i>- You're welcome anytime.</i>

602
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,587
<i>- Hitler Diaries.</i>
- What?

603
00:34:17,722 --> 00:34:20,214
I'm just saying it smells of a forgery
like the <i>Hitler Diaries.</i>

604
00:34:20,350 --> 00:34:22,411
And, of course, publishing those
cost people their jobs.

605
00:34:22,435 --> 00:34:25,803
Which is precisely why we're doing
rigorous checking on this, Kamal.

606
00:34:25,939 --> 00:34:28,181
- Who brought you this?
- Friend.

607
00:34:28,316 --> 00:34:30,182
- Someone from GCHQ?
- No.

608
00:34:30,318 --> 00:34:31,434
Then who?

609
00:34:34,906 --> 00:34:37,239
- Yvonne Ridley.
- Yvonne fucking Ridley!

610
00:34:37,367 --> 00:34:39,654
The woman who fell off a donkey
in Afghanistan

611
00:34:39,786 --> 00:34:41,152
at some Taliban checkpoint!

612
00:34:41,288 --> 00:34:43,029
Arse over tit
with a camera up her burka

613
00:34:43,164 --> 00:34:44,350
and then she converted to Islam

614
00:34:44,374 --> 00:34:45,934
after she was released
by her kidnapper.

615
00:34:45,959 --> 00:34:47,450
None of which means
she's not right!

616
00:34:47,586 --> 00:34:51,045
She's anti-war! She probably typed
the fucking thing herself.

617
00:34:51,172 --> 00:34:52,333
Martin, you realise

618
00:34:52,465 --> 00:34:54,068
- the legal risks we'll be taking?
- Yes.

619
00:34:54,092 --> 00:34:55,958
The last time
we published anything like this,

620
00:34:56,094 --> 00:34:57,585
you and Roger
almost went to prison.

621
00:34:57,721 --> 00:34:59,303
Jan, the last time our source claimed

622
00:34:59,431 --> 00:35:01,969
MI6 had funded an attempted
assassination on Gaddafi.

623
00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:05,468
This document doesn't accuse anyone
of doing anything remotely like that.

624
00:35:05,604 --> 00:35:09,097
No, it merely suggests
that the US government

625
00:35:09,232 --> 00:35:12,396
with the help of Great Britain
might try to twist arms

626
00:35:12,527 --> 00:35:15,691
and threaten UN delegates
into voting for a war in Iraq.

627
00:35:15,822 --> 00:35:17,814
It's a hell of a story.

628
00:35:21,870 --> 00:35:23,577
Look, we know Koza exists.

629
00:35:23,705 --> 00:35:25,788
Beaver says
the language used is authentic.

630
00:35:25,915 --> 00:35:27,622
And Wilkinson says
that while publication

631
00:35:27,751 --> 00:35:28,978
may embarrass both governments,

632
00:35:29,002 --> 00:35:30,771
he doesn't believe
that it poses a security risk

633
00:35:30,795 --> 00:35:32,787
to the British people
or the armed forces.

634
00:35:32,922 --> 00:35:35,790
Ironically, publication may actually
prevent a war and save lives.

635
00:35:35,925 --> 00:35:38,212
- Well.
- MI6?

636
00:35:38,345 --> 00:35:41,053
Would not confirm
but did not deny.

637
00:35:43,183 --> 00:35:44,924
Jan, where are we legally?

638
00:35:45,060 --> 00:35:46,676
Wilkinson may not issue
a D-notice,

639
00:35:46,811 --> 00:35:47,811
but that doesn't stop

640
00:35:47,896 --> 00:35:49,498
- Special Branch from coming after us.
- Thank you.

641
00:35:49,522 --> 00:35:53,391
Legally, we have a top-secret document
in our possession.

642
00:35:57,155 --> 00:35:59,272
Look, Rog, don't forget

643
00:35:59,407 --> 00:36:02,821
we're getting detailed information
directly from Blair's office.

644
00:36:02,952 --> 00:36:04,614
- Fuck off.
- Well, he's right.

645
00:36:04,746 --> 00:36:07,329
Printing this kind of story
would kill that relationship.

646
00:36:07,457 --> 00:36:09,995
Since when did this paper
prioritise political access

647
00:36:10,126 --> 00:36:12,368
- over its own investigative reporting?
- Yes.

648
00:36:12,504 --> 00:36:14,496
We have taken
a position on this, guys.

649
00:36:14,631 --> 00:36:16,293
We support the war.

650
00:36:18,385 --> 00:36:20,502
Yes. We do.

651
00:36:21,888 --> 00:36:22,969
Fuck.

652
00:36:23,098 --> 00:36:25,590
But Peter's right.

653
00:36:25,725 --> 00:36:28,058
This is a fucking good story.

654
00:36:38,863 --> 00:36:40,320
Thank you, Roger.

655
00:36:43,868 --> 00:36:45,200
Here we go.

656
00:36:57,340 --> 00:36:58,922
Wait, I'll come with you.

657
00:36:59,050 --> 00:37:00,403
I'm just going to go
get some milk.

658
00:37:00,427 --> 00:37:01,779
Go back to bed.
I'll bring you a coffee.

659
00:37:01,803 --> 00:37:02,803
Okay.

660
00:37:15,150 --> 00:37:17,107
- Hi.
- Good morning.

661
00:37:33,543 --> 00:37:34,784
Hey.

662
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,210
What's the matter, <i>janum?</i>

663
00:37:49,392 --> 00:37:50,849
What's going on?

664
00:37:58,693 --> 00:38:00,400
- Bravo, Martin.
- Ah, there he is.

665
00:38:00,528 --> 00:38:01,644
Well done.

666
00:38:03,823 --> 00:38:06,566
- Here he is!
- Nice one, Martin.

667
00:38:13,208 --> 00:38:16,622
Brighty, congratulations.

668
00:38:16,753 --> 00:38:18,335
Bloody brilliant.

669
00:38:18,463 --> 00:38:20,223
- Thank you.
- What have you got for me next?

670
00:38:20,256 --> 00:38:22,248
Every major European paper
is citing us

671
00:38:22,383 --> 00:38:24,750
and we've had calls
in from CNN, NBC, and Fox.

672
00:38:24,886 --> 00:38:26,405
They all want to interview you
for their morning shows

673
00:38:26,429 --> 00:38:28,091
when they wake up in the US.

674
00:38:28,223 --> 00:38:29,241
Any response
from Downing Street?

675
00:38:29,265 --> 00:38:31,222
Oh, we got a call in,
but they're scrambling.

676
00:38:35,814 --> 00:38:37,271
Martin, line 2.

677
00:38:38,566 --> 00:38:39,773
Martin Bright.

678
00:38:41,194 --> 00:38:43,436
Thank you. Thank you.

679
00:38:43,571 --> 00:38:45,062
No.

680
00:38:45,198 --> 00:38:47,398
Uh, no, the person who leaked it
hasn't been identified.

681
00:38:50,495 --> 00:38:52,452
Why'd you do it?

682
00:38:52,580 --> 00:38:54,242
I just thought
that they'd investigate.

683
00:38:54,374 --> 00:38:55,976
I never expected them
to print the whole memo.

684
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,366
Why didn't you tell me?

685
00:38:57,502 --> 00:38:59,994
Sorry, I... I think... I think I...

686
00:39:01,256 --> 00:39:03,776
I thought that you would try and talk
me out of it. I didn't want you to.

687
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,382
- My God, <i>janum.</i>
- I'm so sorry.

688
00:39:05,510 --> 00:39:07,092
They don't mention your name?

689
00:39:08,763 --> 00:39:11,801
- I haven't told anyone.
- Good. That's good.

690
00:39:14,269 --> 00:39:16,306
That's very kind.
All right, thank you.

691
00:39:18,606 --> 00:39:21,599
Why don't you, uh, get in touch
with your friend Tony, Kamal?

692
00:39:21,734 --> 00:39:23,879
- Ask him if he has an opinion.
- That's not funny, Rog.

693
00:39:23,903 --> 00:39:25,064
- Martin?
- Yes?

694
00:39:25,196 --> 00:39:27,153
NBC just cancelled your interview.

695
00:39:27,282 --> 00:39:28,489
What?

696
00:39:29,868 --> 00:39:32,576
NBC no longer wish
to interview Martin.

697
00:39:32,704 --> 00:39:34,912
Did they say why?

698
00:39:35,039 --> 00:39:36,559
They just said,
sorry, but they didn't think

699
00:39:36,583 --> 00:39:39,200
- they could fit you in any more.
- Really?

700
00:39:39,335 --> 00:39:42,373
Brighty, reporter from Santiago.

701
00:39:42,505 --> 00:39:44,292
Thank you. Martin Bright.

702
00:39:46,551 --> 00:39:48,008
Ah! Uh, no.

703
00:39:48,136 --> 00:39:49,697
At this stage, we have no idea
what information

704
00:39:49,721 --> 00:39:50,906
was gathered from Chile or any...

705
00:39:50,930 --> 00:39:52,387
- Peter.
- Yeah?

706
00:39:52,515 --> 00:39:55,349
- Fox says that they have to cancel.
- What? Why?

707
00:39:55,476 --> 00:39:58,264
Uh, yeah,
Mexico is furious, too.

708
00:39:58,396 --> 00:39:59,853
Okay. Thank you.

709
00:39:59,981 --> 00:40:01,267
- Martin?
- Yes?

710
00:40:01,399 --> 00:40:03,186
I've got a producer from CNN.

711
00:40:05,153 --> 00:40:06,189
Martin Bright.

712
00:40:08,907 --> 00:40:10,148
I see.

713
00:40:12,201 --> 00:40:14,284
No. No, no. No, no.
That's all right.

714
00:40:15,580 --> 00:40:17,537
Uh, may I ask why?

715
00:40:19,626 --> 00:40:21,346
Yes, I stand by it.
Of course I stand by it.

716
00:40:22,629 --> 00:40:23,915
The Drudge Report?

717
00:40:27,091 --> 00:40:29,083
Yeah.

718
00:40:29,218 --> 00:40:31,050
All right, okay.

719
00:40:31,179 --> 00:40:33,421
What the fuck is going on?

720
00:40:49,697 --> 00:40:51,188
It's fake.

721
00:40:51,324 --> 00:40:54,988
We've printed a fake fucking memo
from Yvonne fucking Ridley!

722
00:40:59,791 --> 00:41:03,375
Oh, you fucking idiot.
There. You see it?

723
00:41:03,503 --> 00:41:05,085
Because the Americans did.

724
00:41:05,213 --> 00:41:07,921
"Favourable." F-a-v-o-u-r.

725
00:41:08,049 --> 00:41:13,090
Some English cunt has tried
to fake an American NSA memo

726
00:41:13,221 --> 00:41:15,383
and you fucking schmucks
fell for it.

727
00:41:15,515 --> 00:41:17,757
Wait, Martin, where's the original?

728
00:41:19,018 --> 00:41:21,226
- Where's the original document?
- Jesus.

729
00:41:33,199 --> 00:41:34,280
- American spelling.
- What?

730
00:41:34,409 --> 00:41:36,275
The original has American spelling.

731
00:41:38,454 --> 00:41:40,696
And this is what I filed, see?

732
00:41:40,832 --> 00:41:42,164
"Favorable." O-r.

733
00:41:42,291 --> 00:41:43,827
Just like the original.
Not o-u-r.

734
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,543
And "recognize" with a Z, not an S.

735
00:41:51,467 --> 00:41:53,379
Who changed what I wrote?

736
00:41:56,806 --> 00:41:57,967
Who...

737
00:41:58,099 --> 00:41:59,243
Who changed
what I fucking wrote?

738
00:41:59,267 --> 00:42:01,429
Come on, speak up!
Who did this?

739
00:42:14,574 --> 00:42:16,156
Nicole, what did you do?

740
00:42:18,077 --> 00:42:19,443
I, um...

741
00:42:21,539 --> 00:42:23,121
I ran it through spell check.

742
00:42:27,712 --> 00:42:29,999
- Spell check?
- Jesus.

743
00:42:31,424 --> 00:42:33,837
That's what I always do.
I'm so sorry.

744
00:42:33,968 --> 00:42:35,550
Do not cry, Nicole.

745
00:42:35,678 --> 00:42:37,965
Do not fucking cry.

746
00:42:43,186 --> 00:42:45,052
Okay, well, we know
that it's not fake.

747
00:42:45,188 --> 00:42:46,708
We go online,
we explain what happened,

748
00:42:46,773 --> 00:42:49,106
- we call all of the networks.
- Oh, stop it, Martin.

749
00:42:49,233 --> 00:42:51,520
Oh, fuck, Rog,
it was an honest mistake.

750
00:42:51,652 --> 00:42:53,894
Don't be so naive.

751
00:42:54,030 --> 00:42:57,239
You're an American editor.
What story do you put out now?

752
00:42:57,366 --> 00:43:00,154
That <i>The Observer</i>
is doubling down on a fake memo?

753
00:43:01,370 --> 00:43:06,582
Or that the staff of this newspaper
are really so colossally stupid!

754
00:43:19,972 --> 00:43:22,760
It's all right.
Would you like a cup of tea?

755
00:43:43,371 --> 00:43:45,704
Someone in this building

756
00:43:45,832 --> 00:43:50,042
has betrayed their government
and their country.

757
00:43:50,169 --> 00:43:52,752
Now, I'm sure it wasn't anyone
in this division,

758
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,667
but starting today

759
00:43:54,799 --> 00:43:57,883
Internal Security
will be conducting interviews

760
00:43:58,010 --> 00:44:00,502
with each and every one of you.

761
00:44:00,638 --> 00:44:04,257
If you know anything
or suspect anyone,

762
00:44:04,392 --> 00:44:07,681
it is your sworn duty to speak up.

763
00:44:07,812 --> 00:44:10,270
If you do not
and you are found to have

764
00:44:10,398 --> 00:44:12,515
withheld information
of any kind,

765
00:44:12,650 --> 00:44:18,191
you will be charged with a breach
of the Official Secrets Act.

766
00:45:06,621 --> 00:45:09,580
You should see the file
that tosser's got on me.

767
00:45:09,707 --> 00:45:11,619
- What did he ask you?
- Katharine!

768
00:45:22,178 --> 00:45:23,714
Come in, Katharine.

769
00:45:27,058 --> 00:45:29,892
- Katharine Gun?
- Yes?

770
00:45:30,019 --> 00:45:32,181
I'm John from Internal Security.
Please.

771
00:45:46,077 --> 00:45:48,444
Mandarin translator.

772
00:45:48,579 --> 00:45:51,413
GCHQ for two years.

773
00:45:51,540 --> 00:45:53,907
- Yes.
- And before that?

774
00:45:54,043 --> 00:45:56,160
I taught English
to Japanese students.

775
00:45:56,295 --> 00:45:58,207
- Hiroshima, right?
- Yes.

776
00:45:59,173 --> 00:46:00,709
Interesting.

777
00:46:00,841 --> 00:46:03,584
Did you, uh, visit the memorial?

778
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,255
The peace memorial?

779
00:46:05,388 --> 00:46:07,254
To the people
killed by the atomic bomb?

780
00:46:09,100 --> 00:46:10,762
Yes, actually, I did.

781
00:46:10,893 --> 00:46:11,974
It's, uh...

782
00:46:13,521 --> 00:46:14,706
It's something
you really have to see.

783
00:46:14,730 --> 00:46:16,096
It's very moving.

784
00:46:18,526 --> 00:46:22,486
Compels one to think about the
consequences of war, doesn't it?

785
00:46:24,073 --> 00:46:26,736
- Yes, I suppose it does.
- Are you anti-war, Katharine?

786
00:46:26,867 --> 00:46:28,529
No.

787
00:46:28,661 --> 00:46:31,449
I... I think sometimes
war is necessary.

788
00:46:36,836 --> 00:46:38,828
I see you lived in Taiwan as a child?

789
00:46:38,963 --> 00:46:40,704
- Yes.
- How long did you live there?

790
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,752
Ah, we moved over when I was three.

791
00:46:42,883 --> 00:46:45,341
Um, I came back to do my A-levels.

792
00:46:45,469 --> 00:46:46,780
Was that for most
of your childhood, then?

793
00:46:46,804 --> 00:46:47,804
Yes.

794
00:46:49,223 --> 00:46:50,555
You had a religious upbringing?

795
00:46:50,683 --> 00:46:51,719
No, not particularly.

796
00:46:51,851 --> 00:46:52,851
But you were sent away

797
00:46:52,935 --> 00:46:54,892
to a Christian missionary school
in Taiwan?

798
00:46:55,021 --> 00:46:56,182
Yes.

799
00:46:56,314 --> 00:46:58,397
Gave you a clear sense
of right and wrong, did it,

800
00:46:58,524 --> 00:46:59,640
being in a mission school?

801
00:46:59,775 --> 00:47:02,108
Oh, I think my parents gave me that.

802
00:47:02,236 --> 00:47:04,148
Did you leak the Koza e-mail?

803
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:05,987
- No.
- No?

804
00:47:06,115 --> 00:47:07,115
No.

805
00:47:09,243 --> 00:47:10,700
- But you read it?
- Yes.

806
00:47:10,828 --> 00:47:12,990
I mean, it was sent to me,
so I read it.

807
00:47:13,122 --> 00:47:15,785
What were your immediate
thoughts after you read it?

808
00:47:15,916 --> 00:47:18,158
Ah, nothing much.
It didn't really bother me.

809
00:47:18,294 --> 00:47:20,752
- It didn't?
- No.

810
00:47:23,299 --> 00:47:25,712
Who do you think
might have leaked it?

811
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,922
- I have no idea.
- No?

812
00:47:32,058 --> 00:47:33,720
- No.
- No?

813
00:47:33,851 --> 00:47:35,012
No.

814
00:47:37,605 --> 00:47:39,642
Thank you, Mrs Gun.

815
00:47:40,608 --> 00:47:42,474
That's all for now.

816
00:47:48,908 --> 00:47:50,774
Eat a little.

817
00:47:50,910 --> 00:47:51,946
Please.

818
00:47:54,622 --> 00:47:57,365
They're bringing everyone in.
One by one.

819
00:48:01,420 --> 00:48:02,831
You haven't said anything?

820
00:48:04,090 --> 00:48:05,956
Okay. Just eat a little.

821
00:48:09,470 --> 00:48:11,336
Everything will be all right.

822
00:48:15,768 --> 00:48:16,849
Eat.

823
00:48:25,277 --> 00:48:27,189
Hi, Fiona, it's Katharine.

824
00:48:27,321 --> 00:48:29,404
Um, I... I'm so sorry

825
00:48:29,532 --> 00:48:32,491
but I don't think I'm gonna
be able to come in today.

826
00:48:32,618 --> 00:48:34,951
Yeah, I...
I think I've caught a tummy bug.

827
00:48:37,206 --> 00:48:38,206
Yeah.

828
00:48:39,667 --> 00:48:41,158
Thank you.

829
00:48:41,293 --> 00:48:43,205
Thank you so much.

830
00:48:43,337 --> 00:48:44,873
What'd she say?

831
00:48:46,173 --> 00:48:47,459
She said
I should get some rest.

832
00:48:47,591 --> 00:48:49,253
Good.

833
00:48:49,385 --> 00:48:51,422
- She was nice.
- That's good.

834
00:48:53,848 --> 00:48:55,055
Try and sleep.

835
00:48:57,977 --> 00:48:59,809
Sorry, I have to go.

836
00:49:11,991 --> 00:49:13,991
<i>...ask you about a report</i>

837
00:49:14,076 --> 00:49:17,240
<i>in</i> The Observer <i>newspaper in London,
of a memo,</i>

838
00:49:17,371 --> 00:49:20,660
<i>uh, reported to be from a man
who actually works at the NSA</i>

839
00:49:20,791 --> 00:49:24,626
<i>in which he describes
a "surge in surveillance</i>

840
00:49:24,753 --> 00:49:27,040
<i>"of UN Security Council members."</i>

841
00:49:27,173 --> 00:49:28,289
<i>What's your response?</i>

842
00:49:28,424 --> 00:49:30,757
<i>As a matter of long-standing policy,</i>

843
00:49:30,885 --> 00:49:33,502
<i>uh, the administration
never comments on anything</i>

844
00:49:33,637 --> 00:49:37,005
<i>involving any people
involved in intelligence.</i>

845
00:49:37,141 --> 00:49:39,554
No, of course, you don't.

846
00:49:39,685 --> 00:49:41,642
<i>If you're
a Cameroonian diplomat</i>

847
00:49:41,770 --> 00:49:44,183
<i>or a French diplomat
at the United Nations,</i>

848
00:49:44,315 --> 00:49:45,834
<i>then you're gonna have
to operate on the assumption</i>

849
00:49:45,858 --> 00:49:47,043
<i>that the United States is bugging you.</i>

850
00:49:47,067 --> 00:49:49,559
<i>No, it's a blanket matter of policy</i>

851
00:49:49,695 --> 00:49:52,187
<i>that we do not answer questions
of that nature...</i>

852
00:49:52,323 --> 00:49:53,859
- Hi.
- Hi.

853
00:49:53,991 --> 00:49:56,191
<i>I'm not indicating to you
whether it's true or not true.</i>

854
00:49:56,243 --> 00:49:57,404
Have you eaten?

855
00:49:57,536 --> 00:50:01,155
<i>...of policy that predates
this administration.</i>

856
00:50:01,290 --> 00:50:03,953
I brought soup. A bean salad.

857
00:50:05,628 --> 00:50:07,085
I'm gonna say it was me.

858
00:50:08,714 --> 00:50:11,081
The Americans are refusing
to admit that the memo was real.

859
00:50:11,217 --> 00:50:13,334
- I have to tell the truth.
- No.

860
00:50:13,469 --> 00:50:16,462
If I don't, then they'll get away
with saying it was a fake.

861
00:50:16,597 --> 00:50:19,806
<i>Janum,</i> you did what you could.
Now leave it alone, please!

862
00:50:19,934 --> 00:50:22,392
What am I supposed to do?
Am I supposed to keep lying forever?

863
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,289
If you say nothing,
they can never prove anything.

864
00:50:24,313 --> 00:50:25,804
They are questioning
everyone at work.

865
00:50:25,940 --> 00:50:27,260
They're interrogating my friends.

866
00:50:27,358 --> 00:50:28,940
They're asking people
to name names.

867
00:50:29,068 --> 00:50:32,186
- That will be over soon.
- And then what?

868
00:50:32,321 --> 00:50:33,653
There will be a question mark

869
00:50:33,781 --> 00:50:35,818
in hundreds of people's files
because of me.

870
00:50:35,950 --> 00:50:38,363
They will put you in jail!

871
00:50:38,494 --> 00:50:39,780
I have to prove it was real.

872
00:50:39,912 --> 00:50:42,746
Everyone at work knows that what
the NSA asked us to do was illegal.

873
00:50:42,873 --> 00:50:44,910
- Nobody cares!
- Well, I care!

874
00:50:47,378 --> 00:50:50,121
If I don't say it was me,
then we'll go to war based on...

875
00:50:50,256 --> 00:50:51,497
on blackmail and lies.

876
00:50:51,632 --> 00:50:53,715
And I can't live with that. I won't.

877
00:50:55,761 --> 00:50:57,718
<i>Janum,</i> please listen to me.

878
00:50:59,014 --> 00:51:01,722
I work at a cafe. I took the job
because I needed a job.

879
00:51:01,850 --> 00:51:03,716
But it's just a job.

880
00:51:03,852 --> 00:51:06,139
You did the same thing, remember?

881
00:51:06,272 --> 00:51:08,208
When you saw the advert,
you said you didn't even know

882
00:51:08,232 --> 00:51:09,973
what the job really was.

883
00:51:12,027 --> 00:51:14,485
It's just a job.

884
00:51:14,613 --> 00:51:16,400
And you can get another job.

885
00:51:19,702 --> 00:51:21,944
You just need to keep your head
down for a few more weeks

886
00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:23,490
until things calm down.

887
00:51:24,915 --> 00:51:27,032
Then you resign,
you can get another job.

888
00:51:44,727 --> 00:51:45,727
Hey.

889
00:51:45,811 --> 00:51:47,598
Feeling better?

890
00:51:48,105 --> 00:51:49,105
Oh, yes.

891
00:51:49,189 --> 00:51:50,430
Just cramps.

892
00:51:53,902 --> 00:51:55,643
On a diet?

893
00:51:55,779 --> 00:51:57,566
- What?
- No cinnamon bun?

894
00:52:00,534 --> 00:52:02,526
Who's in there now?

895
00:52:02,661 --> 00:52:05,529
Nuri. Second time.

896
00:52:05,664 --> 00:52:07,872
Had him take
a lie detector test yesterday.

897
00:52:12,504 --> 00:52:13,836
Mi-Yung!

898
00:53:12,648 --> 00:53:13,980
I did it.

899
00:53:16,151 --> 00:53:17,608
It was me.

900
00:53:21,782 --> 00:53:23,068
Oh, Katharine.

901
00:53:28,038 --> 00:53:29,324
Leave us, please.

902
00:54:23,635 --> 00:54:24,876
Handbag.

903
00:54:27,222 --> 00:54:28,222
Rings.

904
00:54:30,726 --> 00:54:32,183
Necklace.

905
00:54:33,812 --> 00:54:35,849
Watch. Belt.

906
00:54:35,981 --> 00:54:37,847
Um, I don't have a belt.

907
00:54:41,069 --> 00:54:42,901
Take her through. Cell 7.

908
00:54:59,129 --> 00:55:01,963
I've found the passports
and a couple of foreign books.

909
00:55:04,134 --> 00:55:05,545
Who are you?

910
00:55:07,346 --> 00:55:08,712
Where's my wife?

911
00:55:11,350 --> 00:55:13,888
I want to see her! Where is she?

912
00:55:14,019 --> 00:55:16,932
They can't keep me long.
They haven't charged me yet.

913
00:55:17,064 --> 00:55:18,726
No contact, please.

914
00:55:22,611 --> 00:55:25,069
- Where are they holding you?
- Downstairs.

915
00:55:27,199 --> 00:55:29,441
I'm okay. I promise I'm okay.

916
00:55:38,627 --> 00:55:39,868
I brought this.

917
00:55:42,089 --> 00:55:43,876
It will get cold tonight.

918
00:55:48,220 --> 00:55:49,336
Thank you.

919
00:56:04,945 --> 00:56:06,311
Lights off!

920
00:56:18,041 --> 00:56:20,954
- Katharine Gun?
- Yes.

921
00:56:21,086 --> 00:56:23,419
We're from Scotland Yard.
Do you have a lawyer?

922
00:56:24,923 --> 00:56:26,039
No.

923
00:56:26,174 --> 00:56:28,291
There's a duty solicitor on call.

924
00:56:28,427 --> 00:56:29,634
She'll sit in with you.

925
00:56:34,641 --> 00:56:37,930
Your supervisor speaks highly
of your integrity.

926
00:56:38,061 --> 00:56:41,600
She says this breach
was a foolish one-off.

927
00:56:41,732 --> 00:56:43,223
Was it?

928
00:56:43,358 --> 00:56:45,600
Do you mean
if I leaked anything else? No.

929
00:56:45,736 --> 00:56:47,693
- Do you intend to?
- No.

930
00:56:49,615 --> 00:56:51,777
I've always been very proud
to work at GCHQ.

931
00:56:51,909 --> 00:56:53,116
Until now.

932
00:56:54,244 --> 00:56:56,577
Yes. Until now.

933
00:56:56,705 --> 00:56:58,492
What were you employed to do?

934
00:57:00,125 --> 00:57:01,832
Well, I can't be specific.

935
00:57:03,128 --> 00:57:04,414
Be general then.

936
00:57:05,589 --> 00:57:09,082
I translated signals intelligence
and I reported anything

937
00:57:09,217 --> 00:57:11,083
I thought might be of interest
to my clients.

938
00:57:11,219 --> 00:57:13,006
- Your clients?
- The Foreign Office.

939
00:57:13,138 --> 00:57:14,138
The Ministry of Defence.

940
00:57:14,222 --> 00:57:16,214
So, you work
for the British government.

941
00:57:16,350 --> 00:57:18,967
- No. Not really.
- No?

942
00:57:19,102 --> 00:57:21,014
Governments change.

943
00:57:21,146 --> 00:57:22,933
I work for the British people.

944
00:57:23,065 --> 00:57:24,556
I gather intelligence

945
00:57:24,691 --> 00:57:28,685
so that the government
can protect the British people.

946
00:57:28,820 --> 00:57:31,813
I do not gather intelligence
so that the government can lie

947
00:57:31,949 --> 00:57:33,235
to the British people.

948
00:57:36,203 --> 00:57:38,820
With respect, Mrs Gun,

949
00:57:38,956 --> 00:57:40,117
you're a spy.

950
00:57:41,041 --> 00:57:42,041
Yes.

951
00:57:42,042 --> 00:57:44,705
You gather information
from people's phones and computers

952
00:57:44,836 --> 00:57:46,873
and you feed that to your clients.

953
00:57:47,005 --> 00:57:49,292
- Yes.
- You eavesdrop

954
00:57:49,424 --> 00:57:50,835
- on private conversations.
- Yes.

955
00:57:50,968 --> 00:57:52,768
And now you're upset
at being asked to do that

956
00:57:52,886 --> 00:57:56,470
- to members of the Security Council.
- Detective...

957
00:57:56,598 --> 00:58:00,342
I don't object to being asked
to collect information

958
00:58:00,477 --> 00:58:03,766
that could help
prevent a terror attack.

959
00:58:03,897 --> 00:58:07,937
What I object to is being asked
to gather intelligence

960
00:58:08,068 --> 00:58:10,981
to help fix a vote at the UN

961
00:58:11,113 --> 00:58:13,605
and deceive the world
into going to war.

962
00:58:17,661 --> 00:58:20,119
- Who put you up to this?
- No one.

963
00:58:20,247 --> 00:58:21,704
But you gave the memo
to someone.

964
00:58:21,832 --> 00:58:24,324
Who did you give it to?
A journalist?

965
00:58:24,459 --> 00:58:26,997
Someone
in the anti-war movement?

966
00:58:27,129 --> 00:58:28,540
Your husband?

967
00:58:29,631 --> 00:58:30,692
You don't have to answer that.

968
00:58:30,716 --> 00:58:31,797
No, I will answer that.

969
00:58:31,925 --> 00:58:33,885
My husband had absolutely
nothing to do with this.

970
00:58:34,011 --> 00:58:36,628
He was briefly detained
here, too, wasn't he?

971
00:58:36,763 --> 00:58:39,551
- Pending deportation?
- Yes, he was.

972
00:58:39,683 --> 00:58:42,391
- And then you married him.
- Yes.

973
00:58:42,519 --> 00:58:44,306
His paperwork
has been resubmitted.

974
00:58:44,438 --> 00:58:46,395
- He signs in here once a week.
- He's a Muslim.

975
00:58:48,734 --> 00:58:49,734
I'm sorry?

976
00:58:49,818 --> 00:58:51,354
He's a Kurdish Turk

977
00:58:51,486 --> 00:58:54,900
seeking permanent residence
in Britain.

978
00:58:55,032 --> 00:58:58,196
And given what Saddam Hussein
has done to the Kurdish people,

979
00:58:58,326 --> 00:59:02,036
murdering over 180,000 of them
with chemical weapons,

980
00:59:02,164 --> 00:59:03,871
I can assure you

981
00:59:03,999 --> 00:59:06,457
my husband has absolutely
no sympathy whatsoever

982
00:59:06,585 --> 00:59:08,042
with the Iraqi regime.

983
00:59:08,170 --> 00:59:09,377
They why did you leak a memo

984
00:59:09,504 --> 00:59:12,121
intended to help remove
Saddam Hussein?

985
00:59:12,257 --> 00:59:13,623
'Cause by attacking Iraq

986
00:59:13,759 --> 00:59:16,297
you don't simply attack
Saddam Hussein,

987
00:59:16,428 --> 00:59:19,671
you attack a country
of over 30 million people!

988
00:59:19,806 --> 00:59:22,006
And I cannot bear to think
of the pain and the suffering

989
00:59:22,100 --> 00:59:23,466
that that will cause.

990
00:59:23,602 --> 00:59:26,686
Frankly, I don't see
how anyone can bear it.

991
00:59:26,813 --> 00:59:29,396
Detective, is she
going to be formally charged?

992
00:59:29,524 --> 00:59:32,016
That's a decision
for the Attorney General.

993
00:59:32,152 --> 00:59:36,021
Lord Goldsmith will need time
to decide how to deal with you.

994
00:59:36,156 --> 00:59:39,445
The custody sergeant will release you
on police bail today.

995
00:59:39,576 --> 00:59:43,490
You'll be told to return to this
station in approximately three months,

996
00:59:43,622 --> 00:59:45,542
by which time a decision
on whether to charge you

997
00:59:45,665 --> 00:59:47,452
will have been made.

998
00:59:57,928 --> 00:59:59,339
Are you all right, <i>janum?</i>

999
01:00:00,847 --> 01:00:02,759
- Are you all right?
- Yeah, come on.

1000
01:00:02,891 --> 01:00:04,723
Katharine?

1001
01:00:04,851 --> 01:00:07,810
I'm sorry. I deal mostly
with petty criminals,

1002
01:00:07,938 --> 01:00:10,021
drunks and drug addicts.

1003
01:00:10,148 --> 01:00:12,185
If you're charged,
you're gonna need someone

1004
01:00:12,317 --> 01:00:14,434
with a lot more experience than me.

1005
01:00:14,569 --> 01:00:16,435
- I see.
- Have you heard of Liberty?

1006
01:00:17,447 --> 01:00:21,612
They handle human rights cases,
political cases, often for free.

1007
01:00:22,828 --> 01:00:25,866
Well, um, I just wanted
to be sure you knew that.

1008
01:00:27,499 --> 01:00:28,785
- Good luck.
- Thank you.

1009
01:00:28,917 --> 01:00:29,998
Thank you.

1010
01:00:32,462 --> 01:00:35,876
<i>George W. Bush's patience
with the United Nations has run out</i>

1011
01:00:36,007 --> 01:00:38,545
<i>because they haven't managed
to get those nine votes</i>

1012
01:00:38,677 --> 01:00:40,964
<i>at the Security Council
which would give them,</i>

1013
01:00:41,096 --> 01:00:43,088
<i>what they call,
a moral majority.</i>

1014
01:00:43,223 --> 01:00:46,807
<i>That represents a real failure
of American diplomacy.</i>

1015
01:00:46,935 --> 01:00:49,177
<i>This is the man
who's advising Tony Blair</i>

1016
01:00:49,312 --> 01:00:51,053
<i>on the legality of war.</i>

1017
01:00:51,189 --> 01:00:52,646
<i>The Attorney General Lord Goldsmith</i>

1018
01:00:52,774 --> 01:00:55,266
<i>has, I understand,
told the Prime Minister</i>

1019
01:00:55,402 --> 01:00:58,395
<i>military action would be legal
without a second resolution.</i>

1020
01:00:58,530 --> 01:01:00,522
<i>But it's all down to interpretation.</i>

1021
01:01:00,657 --> 01:01:02,176
What is she saying?
They have not got the votes

1022
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,112
but they're going to war, anyway?

1023
01:01:04,244 --> 01:01:06,782
<i>...arguing old
UN resolutions don't count</i>

1024
01:01:06,913 --> 01:01:11,374
<i>and war is illegal without a new one
or a new threat.</i>

1025
01:01:11,501 --> 01:01:12,582
<i>So the troops are in place.</i>

1026
01:01:12,711 --> 01:01:14,671
<i>Some UN inspectors are quitting Iraq.</i>

1027
01:01:14,796 --> 01:01:16,412
<i>Just how close are we to war?</i>

1028
01:01:16,548 --> 01:01:18,881
<i>Fergus has been assessing
the evidence. Fergus?</i>

1029
01:01:19,009 --> 01:01:20,716
<i>All the signs are now</i>

1030
01:01:20,844 --> 01:01:23,211
<i>that war is very, very close now...</i>

1031
01:01:24,848 --> 01:01:25,964
Hi.

1032
01:01:27,434 --> 01:01:28,619
- Do you want to come in?
- Oh, no, no, no.

1033
01:01:28,643 --> 01:01:32,057
I'm... I'm all packed for London.
I just, um...

1034
01:01:33,315 --> 01:01:35,675
I just wanted to say, I think
that what you did was amazing.

1035
01:01:37,569 --> 01:01:40,528
- You do?
- Yeah. A lot of us do.

1036
01:01:41,990 --> 01:01:43,401
Really?

1037
01:01:44,701 --> 01:01:46,488
Are they going to charge you?

1038
01:01:48,121 --> 01:01:49,157
I don't know.

1039
01:01:51,791 --> 01:01:54,158
God, Kat, I'm... I'm so sorry.

1040
01:01:54,294 --> 01:01:56,126
Hey, you didn't do
anything wrong.

1041
01:01:56,254 --> 01:01:58,746
I didn't do anything right either.

1042
01:02:08,391 --> 01:02:10,553
I better be going. Bye.

1043
01:02:32,374 --> 01:02:34,240
<i>My fellow citizens,</i>

1044
01:02:34,376 --> 01:02:37,460
<i>at this hour,
American and coalition forces</i>

1045
01:02:37,587 --> 01:02:39,874
<i>are in the early stages
of military operations</i>

1046
01:02:40,006 --> 01:02:43,295
<i>to disarm Iraq,
to free its people</i>

1047
01:02:43,426 --> 01:02:46,419
<i>and to defend the world
from grave danger.</i>

1048
01:02:46,554 --> 01:02:50,047
<i>Our nation enters
this conflict reluctantly,</i>

1049
01:02:50,183 --> 01:02:52,891
<i>yet our purpose is sure.</i>

1050
01:02:53,019 --> 01:02:55,300
<i>The people of the United States
and our friends and allies</i>

1051
01:02:55,397 --> 01:02:58,936
<i>will not live at the mercy
of an outlaw regime</i>

1052
01:02:59,067 --> 01:03:02,026
<i>that threatens the peace
with weapons of mass murder.</i>

1053
01:03:07,575 --> 01:03:08,735
<i>We will meet that threat now.</i>

1054
01:03:08,785 --> 01:03:11,903
We should have got
that memo out sooner.

1055
01:03:12,038 --> 01:03:13,870
- We did what we could.
- We fucking failed.

1056
01:03:15,083 --> 01:03:16,949
<i>So that we do not
have to meet it later</i>

1057
01:03:17,085 --> 01:03:20,704
<i>with armies of firefighters
and police and doctors</i>

1058
01:03:20,839 --> 01:03:23,547
<i>on the streets of our cities.</i>

1059
01:03:23,675 --> 01:03:25,291
<i>Now that conflict has come,</i>

1060
01:03:25,427 --> 01:03:27,384
<i>the only way
to limit its duration</i>

1061
01:03:27,512 --> 01:03:29,799
<i>is to apply decisive force.</i>

1062
01:03:29,931 --> 01:03:31,672
We're so fucking naive.

1063
01:03:31,808 --> 01:03:34,676
<i>This will not be a campaign
of half measures</i>

1064
01:03:34,811 --> 01:03:37,599
<i>and we will accept no outcome
but victory.</i>

1065
01:03:55,373 --> 01:03:56,989
I have to go.

1066
01:04:00,170 --> 01:04:01,832
You want to come to the cafe?

1067
01:04:02,422 --> 01:04:03,913
Work with me?

1068
01:04:10,305 --> 01:04:11,716
I'll call you later.

1069
01:04:15,018 --> 01:04:16,805
If we use the phones,

1070
01:04:17,896 --> 01:04:19,432
they'll be listening.

1071
01:04:20,940 --> 01:04:23,148
Let them listen.

1072
01:04:23,276 --> 01:04:25,108
We have nothing to hide.

1073
01:04:28,323 --> 01:04:30,155
You should contact those lawyers.

1074
01:04:32,285 --> 01:04:33,571
Today.

1075
01:04:34,621 --> 01:04:35,953
Please.

1076
01:05:01,564 --> 01:05:03,556
<i>- Hello?</i>
- Hi. Uh, it's Katharine.

1077
01:05:03,691 --> 01:05:05,044
Uh, Katharine Gun.
I phoned this morning.

1078
01:05:05,068 --> 01:05:07,936
<i>Oh, yes, Katharine.
Please, um, come on up.</i>

1079
01:05:15,537 --> 01:05:17,449
- Katharine?
- Hello.

1080
01:05:17,580 --> 01:05:19,617
James. Lovely to meet you.

1081
01:05:19,749 --> 01:05:21,285
- Thanks for seeing me.
- Not at all.

1082
01:05:21,418 --> 01:05:22,954
I'm sorry about the decor.

1083
01:05:23,086 --> 01:05:25,703
We like to say
we focus more on our clients.

1084
01:05:25,839 --> 01:05:27,922
This is Shami Chakrabarti,
our director.

1085
01:05:28,049 --> 01:05:31,838
- Hello, Katharine.
- And this is Ben Emmerson.

1086
01:05:31,970 --> 01:05:34,212
- Hi.
- Hello.

1087
01:05:34,347 --> 01:05:36,634
This was the only memo you took?

1088
01:05:36,766 --> 01:05:38,598
- Yes.
- No one suggested you take it?

1089
01:05:38,726 --> 01:05:39,726
No.

1090
01:05:39,811 --> 01:05:41,894
And you've never met
Martin Bright?

1091
01:05:42,021 --> 01:05:43,808
- No.
- Martin called me last week.

1092
01:05:43,940 --> 01:05:45,647
He said he didn't know
who you were

1093
01:05:45,775 --> 01:05:48,859
but he wanted us to be aware
that you might need our help.

1094
01:05:48,987 --> 01:05:51,024
Well, that was very kind of him.

1095
01:05:51,156 --> 01:05:53,443
He said he got the memo
from someone he knew

1096
01:05:53,575 --> 01:05:55,282
but he wouldn't say who.

1097
01:05:55,410 --> 01:05:57,777
Do you want to tell us
who you gave it to?

1098
01:06:01,332 --> 01:06:03,164
Look...

1099
01:06:03,293 --> 01:06:07,128
If you don't mind,
I would prefer not to say.

1100
01:06:07,255 --> 01:06:08,621
I promised I wouldn't.

1101
01:06:09,757 --> 01:06:11,464
Okay.

1102
01:06:11,593 --> 01:06:14,552
When you met Yasar, he had
already applied for asylum.

1103
01:06:14,679 --> 01:06:16,921
- Yes.
- Which was denied.

1104
01:06:17,056 --> 01:06:20,640
Yes, uh, they said that there
wasn't a significant enough risk

1105
01:06:20,768 --> 01:06:22,600
of persecution if he went back.

1106
01:06:22,729 --> 01:06:24,095
And that's when you married him?

1107
01:06:24,230 --> 01:06:26,017
- Yes.
- And did he pay you?

1108
01:06:26,149 --> 01:06:27,265
Absolutely not.

1109
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:28,752
I'm sorry,
I don't mean to upset you.

1110
01:06:28,776 --> 01:06:30,233
It's just that
your husband is Muslim

1111
01:06:30,361 --> 01:06:32,478
and the prosecution
will be looking for motive.

1112
01:06:32,614 --> 01:06:35,652
My motive was to stop a war

1113
01:06:35,783 --> 01:06:38,571
and save lives. I failed.

1114
01:06:40,455 --> 01:06:42,947
All I've managed to do is put
my husband's future at risk.

1115
01:06:43,082 --> 01:06:44,664
And your own.

1116
01:06:44,792 --> 01:06:46,454
In fact, by leaking information

1117
01:06:46,586 --> 01:06:50,671
to try and stop a war, I'd argue
that you chose loyalty to your country

1118
01:06:50,798 --> 01:06:54,758
over loyalty to your government,
your marriage and yourself.

1119
01:06:54,886 --> 01:06:57,173
You had nothing to gain
and everything to lose.

1120
01:06:59,224 --> 01:07:01,136
I think that speaks
rather highly of you.

1121
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:04,893
He's trying to give
you a compliment.

1122
01:07:05,021 --> 01:07:06,307
I see.

1123
01:07:06,439 --> 01:07:08,556
Part of our job
is to try and anticipate

1124
01:07:08,691 --> 01:07:10,978
what the prosecution's
going to throw at you.

1125
01:07:12,237 --> 01:07:14,820
Some of the people we meet
are looking for attention,

1126
01:07:14,948 --> 01:07:17,065
a way to elevate
their humdrum lives.

1127
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,487
- Well, I'm not.
- No, I don't think you are.

1128
01:07:23,373 --> 01:07:24,580
Sorry.

1129
01:07:24,707 --> 01:07:26,869
There's nothing to be sorry for.

1130
01:07:27,001 --> 01:07:28,492
We're here to help.

1131
01:07:31,673 --> 01:07:33,539
And we don't have duress.

1132
01:07:33,675 --> 01:07:36,964
She's adamant no outside agency
put any pressure on her.

1133
01:07:37,095 --> 01:07:38,961
Public interest?

1134
01:07:39,097 --> 01:07:41,492
The public has a right to know
when their government is lying.

1135
01:07:41,516 --> 01:07:43,257
We cite the Falklands case

1136
01:07:43,393 --> 01:07:45,009
when Thatcher lied
about why she ordered

1137
01:07:45,144 --> 01:07:46,664
the sinking of that...
that Argentinian ship.

1138
01:07:46,688 --> 01:07:48,179
<i>- Belgrano.</i>
- Yeah.

1139
01:07:48,314 --> 01:07:50,476
- Who was the whistleblower?
- Clive Ponting.

1140
01:07:50,608 --> 01:07:52,008
The jury acquitted him,
didn't they?

1141
01:07:52,068 --> 01:07:53,170
Yes, and immediately afterwards

1142
01:07:53,194 --> 01:07:55,106
Thatcher had
the Official Secrets Act amended

1143
01:07:55,238 --> 01:07:56,998
to avoid being caught in a lie
in the future.

1144
01:07:57,031 --> 01:07:58,988
So since '89, the public interest

1145
01:07:59,117 --> 01:08:01,780
is effectively whatever
the government says that it is.

1146
01:08:03,037 --> 01:08:04,778
We've got nothing.

1147
01:08:04,914 --> 01:08:06,701
I have to think about it.

1148
01:08:06,833 --> 01:08:08,916
Sorry, I have to go.

1149
01:08:09,043 --> 01:08:11,080
I promised Anne a weekend away.

1150
01:08:12,797 --> 01:08:15,414
If they charge her,
we might have to plead guilty

1151
01:08:15,550 --> 01:08:16,916
and ask for a reduced sentence.

1152
01:08:17,051 --> 01:08:19,543
But she's young and principled.

1153
01:08:19,679 --> 01:08:21,865
A judge might even think that
what she did was morally right.

1154
01:08:21,889 --> 01:08:24,097
Or crucify her as a traitor.

1155
01:08:25,935 --> 01:08:26,935
Bye.

1156
01:08:55,006 --> 01:08:57,714
- You sure he was following you?
- He was staring at me.

1157
01:08:57,842 --> 01:09:00,195
- Sometimes men stare.
- Yeah, it wasn't that kind of a stare.

1158
01:09:00,219 --> 01:09:04,259
- What kind of stare was it?
- Yas, please, I'm scared. Okay?

1159
01:09:04,390 --> 01:09:05,597
I'm scared.

1160
01:09:07,685 --> 01:09:09,722
You know, for years,
I've tried to be legal here.

1161
01:09:09,854 --> 01:09:11,436
- I know.
- Then why'd you do it?

1162
01:09:11,564 --> 01:09:13,681
These arseholes got their war, anyway.

1163
01:09:13,816 --> 01:09:15,273
Saddam's over. And you know what?

1164
01:09:15,401 --> 01:09:17,643
- I'm glad he's over!
- War is not over.

1165
01:09:17,779 --> 01:09:19,315
Ousting Saddam
is just the beginning.

1166
01:09:19,447 --> 01:09:21,689
- What do you know about war?
- I work at GCHQ.

1167
01:09:21,824 --> 01:09:24,157
All you do
is listen to people talking!

1168
01:09:24,285 --> 01:09:26,902
You've never seen war!
You've never smelled it!

1169
01:09:27,038 --> 01:09:28,158
Never even come close to it!

1170
01:09:28,206 --> 01:09:30,323
Yas, I understand
why you are angry.

1171
01:09:30,458 --> 01:09:32,620
It is my fault and I'm sorry.

1172
01:09:32,752 --> 01:09:34,709
I am so sorry.

1173
01:09:34,837 --> 01:09:39,582
But... but I watched Blair with his...
his smug smile

1174
01:09:39,717 --> 01:09:42,551
and his sterile speeches
that tell us nothing

1175
01:09:42,679 --> 01:09:46,593
of what it must feel like
to be a child in Iraq right now.

1176
01:09:46,724 --> 01:09:48,844
No, I'm not... I'm not sorry
that I tried to stop him.

1177
01:09:48,935 --> 01:09:50,176
I'm not.

1178
01:09:51,020 --> 01:09:53,012
I'm only sorry that I failed.

1179
01:10:01,030 --> 01:10:04,114
Thank you for inviting us in.

1180
01:10:04,242 --> 01:10:09,328
- What is it you came to say?
- Well, there's been a development.

1181
01:10:09,455 --> 01:10:11,947
- Am I going to be charged?
- That I don't know.

1182
01:10:12,083 --> 01:10:14,120
Then why are you here?

1183
01:10:15,128 --> 01:10:17,245
I gather you went to see
a lawyer today.

1184
01:10:17,380 --> 01:10:18,791
- Did you follow me?
- No.

1185
01:10:18,923 --> 01:10:20,209
Because somebody did.

1186
01:10:20,341 --> 01:10:21,819
Well, you must know
that after what you did

1187
01:10:21,843 --> 01:10:23,675
GCHQ is concerned.

1188
01:10:23,803 --> 01:10:26,216
I have a right to legal advice.

1189
01:10:26,347 --> 01:10:30,057
Unfortunately,
it's not as simple as that.

1190
01:10:30,184 --> 01:10:32,642
When you signed on
to work for GCHQ,

1191
01:10:32,770 --> 01:10:35,934
you agreed to be bound
by the Official Secrets Act

1192
01:10:36,065 --> 01:10:37,772
for the rest of your life.

1193
01:10:37,900 --> 01:10:39,687
I know what I signed, Detective.

1194
01:10:39,819 --> 01:10:43,779
Mmm, then you know
that it says here...

1195
01:10:44,699 --> 01:10:47,157
in section 1-1...

1196
01:10:47,285 --> 01:10:49,698
that "a person is guilty of an offence

1197
01:10:49,829 --> 01:10:51,240
"if he...

1198
01:10:51,372 --> 01:10:52,908
"or she...

1199
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:55,123
"discloses any information

1200
01:10:55,251 --> 01:10:57,664
"relating to security
or intelligence."

1201
01:10:59,046 --> 01:11:02,505
This means that you cannot
discuss anything

1202
01:11:02,633 --> 01:11:05,467
with anyone outside of GCHQ

1203
01:11:05,595 --> 01:11:07,712
relating to the document
you leaked.

1204
01:11:09,891 --> 01:11:12,178
Are you saying
I can't talk to a lawyer?

1205
01:11:12,310 --> 01:11:14,142
Oh, you have the right
to talk to a lawyer.

1206
01:11:14,270 --> 01:11:16,102
It's just that
you cannot discuss

1207
01:11:16,230 --> 01:11:19,473
anything to do
with your work at GCHQ.

1208
01:11:19,609 --> 01:11:21,441
Or the contents of the memo
you leaked

1209
01:11:21,569 --> 01:11:23,652
or how it came
into your possession

1210
01:11:23,780 --> 01:11:25,191
or who wrote it.

1211
01:11:26,699 --> 01:11:29,737
All of this information is top-secret.

1212
01:11:29,869 --> 01:11:32,907
So disclosing it to anyone
outside of GCHQ,

1213
01:11:33,039 --> 01:11:35,281
even a lawyer,

1214
01:11:35,416 --> 01:11:38,784
would be a further violation
of the Official Secrets Act,

1215
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:42,084
which could result
in further prosecution

1216
01:11:42,215 --> 01:11:44,878
and a much longer prison sentence.

1217
01:11:48,095 --> 01:11:50,178
We just wanted you
to be aware of that.

1218
01:11:52,934 --> 01:11:56,974
So if I may not talk
to a lawyer, who may I talk to?

1219
01:11:57,104 --> 01:11:59,767
You should talk
to your superiors at GCHQ.

1220
01:11:59,899 --> 01:12:02,141
- Are you fucking joking?
- Yas, please. Please.

1221
01:12:03,528 --> 01:12:06,111
We should hear
what the detectives have to say.

1222
01:12:06,239 --> 01:12:08,105
They're just doing their job.

1223
01:12:11,202 --> 01:12:16,072
Simply put, if you wish
to tell anything to a lawyer

1224
01:12:16,207 --> 01:12:18,369
or the press or anyone else,

1225
01:12:19,919 --> 01:12:22,286
you first need to clear it
with GCHQ.

1226
01:12:26,717 --> 01:12:27,924
Detective,

1227
01:12:29,220 --> 01:12:31,212
I leaked only one memo.

1228
01:12:32,098 --> 01:12:33,384
I had good reason to do so

1229
01:12:33,516 --> 01:12:36,634
and I intend to make
those reasons public

1230
01:12:36,769 --> 01:12:38,635
if I am charged.

1231
01:12:40,398 --> 01:12:42,230
I will not talk
to my lawyers again

1232
01:12:42,358 --> 01:12:44,441
unless I am charged.

1233
01:12:45,903 --> 01:12:47,644
Tell that to GCHQ.

1234
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:55,611
Are you grilling
or smoking that fish?

1235
01:12:55,746 --> 01:12:58,534
I am smoking. I've soaked
the wood chips in water.

1236
01:12:58,666 --> 01:12:59,666
I've got charcoal.

1237
01:12:59,750 --> 01:13:02,458
I'm... I'm trying something new.

1238
01:13:02,587 --> 01:13:04,419
- Hi.
- Ken?

1239
01:13:05,256 --> 01:13:07,088
- Hi.
- Hi, Ken.

1240
01:13:07,216 --> 01:13:08,277
Guess you're down here
for the weekend.

1241
01:13:08,301 --> 01:13:09,542
Yes. Just for the night.

1242
01:13:09,677 --> 01:13:10,918
Yeah, me too.
It's been a while.

1243
01:13:11,053 --> 01:13:12,089
Mm-hmm. Would you, uh...

1244
01:13:12,221 --> 01:13:13,883
Do you want a drink?

1245
01:13:14,015 --> 01:13:16,553
Uh, no, thanks.
Sally's cooking dinner.

1246
01:13:16,684 --> 01:13:19,347
- Hello, Anne.
- Hi.

1247
01:13:19,478 --> 01:13:22,266
- I'm so sorry to intrude.
- Oh, not at all.

1248
01:13:22,398 --> 01:13:24,014
How's the new job?

1249
01:13:24,150 --> 01:13:26,483
Well, it's, um, eye-opening.

1250
01:13:28,237 --> 01:13:32,072
In fact, I wondered
if I might ask Ben's opinion

1251
01:13:32,199 --> 01:13:35,533
about a new case that my office
has been asked to prosecute.

1252
01:13:35,661 --> 01:13:39,029
It won't take a minute.
Would you mind?

1253
01:13:39,165 --> 01:13:40,622
How do you know that I met her?

1254
01:13:40,750 --> 01:13:43,242
Security services are all over this.

1255
01:13:43,377 --> 01:13:44,913
Mm-hmm.

1256
01:13:45,046 --> 01:13:46,753
And it's not just
a domestic embarrassment.

1257
01:13:46,881 --> 01:13:48,167
The Americans are very unhappy.

1258
01:13:48,299 --> 01:13:49,401
Oh, well, that is upsetting.

1259
01:13:49,425 --> 01:13:51,291
Oh, come on, Ben,
it's not funny.

1260
01:13:52,970 --> 01:13:55,838
What she did was
a deliberate act of betrayal.

1261
01:13:55,973 --> 01:13:58,135
Look, Ken,
we're not colleagues any more.

1262
01:13:58,267 --> 01:14:00,008
We're on different sides here.

1263
01:14:00,144 --> 01:14:02,727
I think she wants to be seen
as some sort of <i>cause celebre.</i>

1264
01:14:04,398 --> 01:14:08,358
But she swore allegiance
to the intelligence services

1265
01:14:08,486 --> 01:14:10,728
and when you do that
you don't get to pick and choose

1266
01:14:10,863 --> 01:14:12,104
what orders you'll follow.

1267
01:14:12,239 --> 01:14:14,572
Following orders
is not a defence to a war crime.

1268
01:14:14,700 --> 01:14:18,819
Yes, but who is she to undermine
the strategic objectives

1269
01:14:18,955 --> 01:14:21,789
of a democratically-elected
prime minister?

1270
01:14:21,916 --> 01:14:24,784
Oh, come on, she's not selling
state secrets to Moscow.

1271
01:14:24,919 --> 01:14:29,505
She exposed an illegal attempt
to secure a UN resolution for war

1272
01:14:29,632 --> 01:14:31,272
which would have given Blair
perfect cover

1273
01:14:31,342 --> 01:14:32,569
for the bloody mess
that we're in now.

1274
01:14:32,593 --> 01:14:35,006
No, she should have kept
her mouth shut

1275
01:14:35,137 --> 01:14:37,174
or complained to her superiors.

1276
01:14:37,306 --> 01:14:38,784
Now I've got a real problem
with people

1277
01:14:38,808 --> 01:14:40,800
who think that
from some lowly position

1278
01:14:40,935 --> 01:14:42,642
they can possibly see
the big picture.

1279
01:14:42,770 --> 01:14:44,432
So then you would
never question authority

1280
01:14:44,563 --> 01:14:46,304
even if you knew
it was breaking the law.

1281
01:14:46,440 --> 01:14:48,727
Ben, you can't blame me
for being angry with her.

1282
01:14:48,859 --> 01:14:50,100
We're at war.

1283
01:14:50,236 --> 01:14:52,728
So I'm going to assign
the best prosecutor in my office

1284
01:14:52,863 --> 01:14:55,196
to bring this girl down,
which shouldn't be difficult.

1285
01:14:55,324 --> 01:14:57,987
- She's already confessed.
- I appreciate your determination

1286
01:14:58,119 --> 01:15:01,112
to make an example of her,
but you shouldn't be here.

1287
01:15:03,666 --> 01:15:05,498
Oh, come on, we're friends.

1288
01:15:05,626 --> 01:15:07,618
I'll make my position
perfectly clear.

1289
01:15:07,753 --> 01:15:09,995
If you charge her,
then I will defend her

1290
01:15:10,131 --> 01:15:11,997
to the best of my ability.

1291
01:15:14,051 --> 01:15:15,508
So let's go home and pretend

1292
01:15:15,636 --> 01:15:17,468
that this conversation
never happened.

1293
01:15:51,213 --> 01:15:53,421
You're not working today?

1294
01:15:53,549 --> 01:15:56,041
No. I have to sign in
at the station.

1295
01:15:59,346 --> 01:16:02,134
- Then we can go for a hike.
- I want to see the sea.

1296
01:16:15,863 --> 01:16:17,650
Leave it.

1297
01:16:23,704 --> 01:16:24,848
<i>Hi, we're not in.</i>

1298
01:16:24,872 --> 01:16:26,238
<i>Please leave a message.</i>

1299
01:16:26,373 --> 01:16:29,582
<i>Katharine, it's James Welch
from Liberty.</i>

1300
01:16:29,710 --> 01:16:31,872
<i>Uh, we should talk.</i>

1301
01:16:32,004 --> 01:16:34,712
<i>Could you give me a call
when you get this message?</i>

1302
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:35,956
Hello?

1303
01:16:36,092 --> 01:16:38,379
<i>Oh, ah, Katharine.</i>

1304
01:16:38,511 --> 01:16:42,095
<i>Um, I'm afraid
I have some bad news.</i>

1305
01:16:42,223 --> 01:16:46,467
Uh, James, you know that
GCHQ said I couldn't talk to you.

1306
01:16:46,602 --> 01:16:50,141
<i>Oh, then, well, the good news is
we finally had the gag order lifted.</i>

1307
01:16:50,272 --> 01:16:54,687
<i>We've agreed not to ask any questions
about what other work you did at GCHQ.</i>

1308
01:16:54,819 --> 01:16:57,482
<i>But what happens
going forward isn't up to them.</i>

1309
01:16:59,532 --> 01:17:02,741
<i>Your case is now in the hands
of the Crown Prosecution Service.</i>

1310
01:17:05,871 --> 01:17:07,828
<i>They're going to charge you.</i>

1311
01:17:11,168 --> 01:17:13,000
<i>We should meet next week.</i>

1312
01:17:16,132 --> 01:17:17,132
<i>- Katharine?</i>
- Yes.

1313
01:17:17,216 --> 01:17:19,879
Uh, okay.

1314
01:17:20,010 --> 01:17:21,171
Yeah.

1315
01:17:22,471 --> 01:17:24,758
<i>I know that this is a lot
to take in,</i>

1316
01:17:24,890 --> 01:17:26,051
<i>but we will help you.</i>

1317
01:17:26,183 --> 01:17:27,515
Thank you.

1318
01:17:29,687 --> 01:17:31,123
<i>- Okay.</i>
- Thank you very much, James.

1319
01:17:31,147 --> 01:17:32,228
<i>Speak soon.</i>

1320
01:17:37,528 --> 01:17:40,145
"GCHQ whistleblower charged."

1321
01:17:40,281 --> 01:17:41,567
"Traitor or spy?"

1322
01:17:41,699 --> 01:17:43,315
"Spy speaks out."

1323
01:17:43,450 --> 01:17:44,907
"The spy
who wouldn't keep a secret."

1324
01:17:45,035 --> 01:17:47,652
"Who is Katharine Gun?"

1325
01:17:47,788 --> 01:17:50,155
"Leak against this war."

1326
01:17:50,291 --> 01:17:52,078
She's everywhere.

1327
01:17:52,209 --> 01:17:54,121
What's your angle?

1328
01:17:54,253 --> 01:17:55,539
Look.

1329
01:17:56,964 --> 01:17:58,751
"Katharine Gun faces jail
for exposing

1330
01:17:58,883 --> 01:18:00,920
"American corruption
in the run-up to war.

1331
01:18:01,051 --> 01:18:03,168
"Now her celebrity supporters insist

1332
01:18:03,304 --> 01:18:05,387
"it is Bush and Blair
who should be in the dock."

1333
01:18:05,514 --> 01:18:07,676
- Celebrity supporters?
- Mm.

1334
01:18:07,808 --> 01:18:09,549
Little tabloidy, don't you think?

1335
01:18:09,685 --> 01:18:12,473
Hey, we're building awareness.
How about Daniel Ellsberg?

1336
01:18:12,605 --> 01:18:14,221
He leaked the Pentagon papers.

1337
01:18:14,356 --> 01:18:15,722
I know who Ellsberg is, Martin.

1338
01:18:15,858 --> 01:18:17,269
Of course, you do. Forgive me.

1339
01:18:17,401 --> 01:18:20,940
Well, Ellsberg described it as...

1340
01:18:21,071 --> 01:18:23,438
uh, "The most important and
courageous leak I've ever seen.

1341
01:18:23,574 --> 01:18:25,093
"No one else has ever done
what she did.

1342
01:18:25,117 --> 01:18:27,109
"Tell secret truths at personal risks

1343
01:18:27,244 --> 01:18:30,408
"before an imminent war,
in time, possibly to avert it."

1344
01:18:31,373 --> 01:18:33,740
Okay, that's classy.

1345
01:18:40,674 --> 01:18:42,040
I'll be quick.

1346
01:19:07,701 --> 01:19:09,442
Are you waiting for the tall man?

1347
01:19:09,578 --> 01:19:11,285
- The dark-haired one?
- Yeah.

1348
01:19:11,413 --> 01:19:13,575
He was shouting
that his wife was outside.

1349
01:19:13,707 --> 01:19:15,039
- They took him.
- What?

1350
01:19:15,167 --> 01:19:16,499
They took him.

1351
01:19:27,221 --> 01:19:28,462
Where is he?

1352
01:19:28,597 --> 01:19:30,213
Sorry. Who are you?

1353
01:19:30,349 --> 01:19:32,090
I'm Yasar Gun's wife.
Where's my husband?

1354
01:19:32,226 --> 01:19:35,185
I'm sorry, ma'am.
He's scheduled for deportation.

1355
01:19:36,188 --> 01:19:37,520
What?

1356
01:19:37,648 --> 01:19:39,139
No. No, no. Uh, no, no.

1357
01:19:39,275 --> 01:19:41,483
Look, look, there's been
some sort of mistake.

1358
01:19:41,610 --> 01:19:43,192
I need to see my husband right now.

1359
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:45,186
I'm afraid that's not possible.

1360
01:19:46,490 --> 01:19:48,026
You can't go in there!

1361
01:19:48,158 --> 01:19:49,990
Please. Please, please,
please, please.

1362
01:19:50,119 --> 01:19:51,326
Let me see him, please.

1363
01:19:51,453 --> 01:19:52,681
Please, he doesn't have
anything with him.

1364
01:19:52,705 --> 01:19:53,945
He doesn't even have any money.

1365
01:19:53,998 --> 01:19:56,866
I'm sorry.
They've already taken him.

1366
01:19:57,001 --> 01:19:58,788
<i>No, no.
They won't say where.</i>

1367
01:19:58,919 --> 01:20:01,039
I don't know. Oh, God, James,
I don't know what to do.

1368
01:20:01,171 --> 01:20:03,629
<i>Katharine, I'm so sorry.
I'm at The Hague.</i>

1369
01:20:03,757 --> 01:20:05,293
<i>- Who's your MP?</i>
- I don't know.

1370
01:20:05,426 --> 01:20:07,153
<i>- Is it Nigel Jones?</i>
- Nigel Jones, yes. Yeah.

1371
01:20:07,177 --> 01:20:08,655
<i>Do you have your marriage certificate?</i>

1372
01:20:08,679 --> 01:20:10,031
- Uh, yeah, yeah, somewhere.
<i>- Right.</i>

1373
01:20:10,055 --> 01:20:12,422
<i>Find it, and I'll track Nigel down.</i>

1374
01:20:12,558 --> 01:20:13,994
Of course, they're
legally married, Beverly.

1375
01:20:14,018 --> 01:20:15,725
I'm holding
their marriage certificate.

1376
01:20:15,853 --> 01:20:16,955
<i>I'm sorry,
but his application</i>

1377
01:20:16,979 --> 01:20:18,891
<i>to remain in this country
has been denied.</i>

1378
01:20:19,023 --> 01:20:20,023
Mistakenly.

1379
01:20:20,107 --> 01:20:22,815
He's complied with every directive
your department's issued.

1380
01:20:22,943 --> 01:20:26,107
<i>Nigel, your constituent
is accused of betraying her country.</i>

1381
01:20:26,238 --> 01:20:28,318
<i>Do you really think we should
be helping her husband?</i>

1382
01:20:28,407 --> 01:20:30,774
I think deporting her husband
when she's facing a trial

1383
01:20:30,909 --> 01:20:32,696
looks like state bullying.

1384
01:20:36,665 --> 01:20:39,203
<i>All right, I'll review his paperwork.</i>

1385
01:20:39,335 --> 01:20:40,667
Thank you.

1386
01:20:40,794 --> 01:20:42,831
And please make sure
he's not flown out tonight.

1387
01:20:45,883 --> 01:20:48,341
I'm sorry. Best I can do for now.

1388
01:20:48,469 --> 01:20:50,469
I promise I will pick this up
first thing tomorrow.

1389
01:20:50,596 --> 01:20:52,929
Hello?

1390
01:20:53,057 --> 01:20:55,344
<i>We tracked him to
Harmondsworth detention centre.</i>

1391
01:20:55,476 --> 01:20:59,686
<i>It's a deportation centre
at Heathrow Airport right off the M25.</i>

1392
01:20:59,813 --> 01:21:01,645
<i>Go to the main gate and wait there.</i>

1393
01:21:01,774 --> 01:21:03,185
<i>Uh, are they gonna release him?</i>

1394
01:21:03,317 --> 01:21:05,434
<i>We have ministerial approval
but no paperwork yet.</i>

1395
01:21:05,569 --> 01:21:09,313
<i>There is... there is a possibility,
he's already been put on a plane.</i>

1396
01:21:09,448 --> 01:21:10,734
- What?
<i>- Yeah, I'm checking.</i>

1397
01:21:10,866 --> 01:21:12,226
<i>Just get there as soon as you can.</i>

1398
01:21:12,284 --> 01:21:14,901
Out you get. Let's go. Move it.

1399
01:21:18,624 --> 01:21:20,616
This is a mistake, sir.

1400
01:21:20,751 --> 01:21:22,617
- This is a mistake.
- Come on.

1401
01:21:24,129 --> 01:21:26,166
Please.

1402
01:21:26,298 --> 01:21:28,540
I need to call my wife.
I must call my wife!

1403
01:21:54,868 --> 01:21:56,450
Next in line.

1404
01:22:19,435 --> 01:22:20,892
Hello?

1405
01:22:25,816 --> 01:22:26,932
Hello?

1406
01:22:34,992 --> 01:22:35,992
Yeah?

1407
01:22:37,453 --> 01:22:40,537
James, James, um, I don't know
if I'm in the right place.

1408
01:22:41,540 --> 01:22:43,497
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know,
but it's 4:00 AM.

1409
01:22:43,625 --> 01:22:45,912
There's nobody to talk to.

1410
01:22:46,044 --> 01:22:48,036
Wait, wait.
Someone's coming. Wait.

1411
01:22:50,340 --> 01:22:51,797
Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

1412
01:22:54,011 --> 01:22:55,627
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.

1413
01:22:55,762 --> 01:22:56,882
- It's all right.
- You okay?

1414
01:22:56,930 --> 01:22:57,970
- I'm okay.
- Are you okay?

1415
01:22:58,015 --> 01:22:59,381
- You're okay?
- Yeah, yeah.

1416
01:23:06,857 --> 01:23:08,209
If they try and pull
anything like that again

1417
01:23:08,233 --> 01:23:09,394
then I want to go public.

1418
01:23:09,526 --> 01:23:11,062
- Not a good idea.
- Why not?

1419
01:23:11,195 --> 01:23:13,232
Because people are fickle.
Many will hate you.

1420
01:23:13,363 --> 01:23:15,104
Your personal lives
will be picked apart,

1421
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:16,947
your marriage
will be interrogated.

1422
01:23:17,075 --> 01:23:20,568
In fact, we think it will be best
if Yasar was kept well out of this.

1423
01:23:21,830 --> 01:23:23,913
You should probably
not attend the trial.

1424
01:23:25,709 --> 01:23:28,122
- I understand.
- What? No.

1425
01:23:28,253 --> 01:23:30,586
<i>Janum,</i> we both know
the jury will prefer

1426
01:23:30,714 --> 01:23:32,233
an English girl
without an immigrant husband.

1427
01:23:32,257 --> 01:23:33,577
You know what?
That is ridiculous.

1428
01:23:33,675 --> 01:23:35,917
We are married and we have
nothing to be ashamed of.

1429
01:23:36,053 --> 01:23:37,885
The shame is on them, not you.

1430
01:23:38,013 --> 01:23:40,471
You don't need to risk
your freedom to prove it.

1431
01:23:41,892 --> 01:23:44,305
We should discuss
how you'll plead.

1432
01:23:44,436 --> 01:23:45,722
Not guilty.

1433
01:23:45,854 --> 01:23:48,267
But you understand
you confessed.

1434
01:23:48,398 --> 01:23:51,982
I confessed that I leaked a memo
in order to try and save lives.

1435
01:23:52,110 --> 01:23:56,024
And we will use that argument
to ask for a reduced sentence.

1436
01:23:56,156 --> 01:23:59,024
If you do plead guilty,
there will be no jury.

1437
01:23:59,159 --> 01:24:01,116
You could be out of jail
in less than six months.

1438
01:24:01,245 --> 01:24:02,952
Given how badly the war is going,

1439
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:05,322
we think a judge is likely
to be sympathetic.

1440
01:24:05,457 --> 01:24:07,414
But I'd have a criminal record.

1441
01:24:07,543 --> 01:24:08,750
That is true.

1442
01:24:08,877 --> 01:24:11,585
Which I would carry with me
for the rest of my life

1443
01:24:11,713 --> 01:24:14,233
into every... every job interview,
every application for credit.

1444
01:24:14,341 --> 01:24:15,877
- Yes.
- And...

1445
01:24:16,009 --> 01:24:19,047
I'm sorry. We... we would be conceding

1446
01:24:19,179 --> 01:24:21,967
that no one in Intelligence
can ever tell the British people

1447
01:24:22,099 --> 01:24:23,965
when their government is lying.

1448
01:24:24,101 --> 01:24:27,640
Not when the lies are protected
by the Official Secrets Act, no.

1449
01:24:27,771 --> 01:24:29,103
I'm sorry. This is all a charade.

1450
01:24:29,231 --> 01:24:31,314
I mean, if you're saying
that I have to plead guilty

1451
01:24:31,441 --> 01:24:33,933
because the Act allows
absolutely no defence whatsoever,

1452
01:24:34,069 --> 01:24:36,106
then the very idea
of a fair trial is a joke.

1453
01:24:36,238 --> 01:24:38,150
I'm sorry, Katharine,

1454
01:24:38,282 --> 01:24:41,946
but the best we can do
is ask a judge for leniency.

1455
01:24:42,077 --> 01:24:44,660
Post <i>Belgrano,</i>
there really is no defence

1456
01:24:44,788 --> 01:24:46,182
to a breach
of the Official Secrets Act.

1457
01:24:46,206 --> 01:24:47,697
Except perhaps one.

1458
01:24:48,834 --> 01:24:50,621
Katharine said it herself.

1459
01:24:50,752 --> 01:24:53,119
She leaked the memo
to try to save lives.

1460
01:24:53,255 --> 01:24:54,541
But she still broke the law.

1461
01:24:54,673 --> 01:24:57,256
Yes, but there are circumstances
where you can break the law.

1462
01:24:57,384 --> 01:24:59,797
It's only in situations
of absolute necessity.

1463
01:24:59,928 --> 01:25:02,636
- Necessity. Exactly.
- Ben, you're reaching.

1464
01:25:02,764 --> 01:25:05,507
Am I? What are the requirements
for a defensive necessity?

1465
01:25:05,642 --> 01:25:07,759
Imminent threat to your life
or the lives of others.

1466
01:25:07,894 --> 01:25:10,164
Yeah, and no other reasonable
way to prevent loss of life.

1467
01:25:10,188 --> 01:25:11,599
Yes, right, well, the invasion

1468
01:25:11,732 --> 01:25:13,894
posed an imminent threat
to thousands of lives.

1469
01:25:14,026 --> 01:25:15,866
Katharine has no right
to try and prevent a war

1470
01:25:15,944 --> 01:25:17,344
authorised by the Attorney General.

1471
01:25:17,446 --> 01:25:20,610
- Unless the war is illegal.
- What?

1472
01:25:20,741 --> 01:25:23,324
Wait, wait, so now we're going
to put the war on trial?

1473
01:25:23,452 --> 01:25:24,738
Yes.

1474
01:25:24,870 --> 01:25:29,205
I believe that Katharine Gun
tried to stop an illegal war.

1475
01:25:29,333 --> 01:25:31,416
What she did was necessary

1476
01:25:31,543 --> 01:25:34,286
to try to save thousands
of British, American and Iraqi lives.

1477
01:25:34,421 --> 01:25:39,337
Ben, Goldsmith specifically stated
that the invasion was legal.

1478
01:25:39,468 --> 01:25:42,085
He said so only three days
before the invasion.

1479
01:25:42,220 --> 01:25:43,756
What was his position
before that?

1480
01:25:43,889 --> 01:25:46,170
What was his advice at the time
Katharine leaked the memo?

1481
01:25:46,224 --> 01:25:48,202
- Well, we have no idea.
- Well, I'd like to find out.

1482
01:25:48,226 --> 01:25:52,311
Because Blair spent a lot of energy
trying to secure a new UN resolution.

1483
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:53,600
I suppose.

1484
01:25:53,732 --> 01:25:56,770
When Lord Goldsmith
finally said the war was legal,

1485
01:25:56,902 --> 01:25:59,315
his deputy legal advisor resigned.

1486
01:25:59,446 --> 01:26:01,215
Yes, Elizabeth Wilmshurst.
Yeah, that's right.

1487
01:26:01,239 --> 01:26:02,717
- She resigned. Yes, yes.
- But she didn't say why.

1488
01:26:02,741 --> 01:26:04,232
She couldn't. If she did,

1489
01:26:04,368 --> 01:26:06,095
she'd be charged
under the Official Secrets Act.

1490
01:26:06,119 --> 01:26:08,236
So I need to get a meeting
with Elizabeth Wilmshurst.

1491
01:26:08,372 --> 01:26:10,058
- She's not gonna go public.
- She doesn't have to.

1492
01:26:10,082 --> 01:26:11,618
All we need is a hint

1493
01:26:11,750 --> 01:26:14,538
that Goldsmith changed his mind
about the legality of the war.

1494
01:26:14,670 --> 01:26:18,209
I'm sorry, Ben. There are
two ways they could justify war.

1495
01:26:18,340 --> 01:26:20,340
- We've only addressed one.
- So what am I missing?

1496
01:26:20,425 --> 01:26:22,087
- Self-defence.
- Oh, come on.

1497
01:26:22,219 --> 01:26:23,946
Does anyone honestly believe
that this country

1498
01:26:23,970 --> 01:26:25,757
was about to be attacked by Iraq?

1499
01:26:25,889 --> 01:26:27,889
I do agree, but that's why
they trotted out Powell.

1500
01:26:28,016 --> 01:26:29,882
- To make the case for WMDs.
- Oh.

1501
01:26:30,018 --> 01:26:32,138
If it's true that Iraq
has weapons of mass destruction

1502
01:26:32,229 --> 01:26:34,767
that pose an imminent threat
to this country,

1503
01:26:34,898 --> 01:26:38,767
the war is legal
without a UN resolution.

1504
01:26:38,902 --> 01:26:40,171
How many people actually believe

1505
01:26:40,195 --> 01:26:41,902
Iraq still has weapons
of mass destruction?

1506
01:26:42,030 --> 01:26:43,521
Well, they're still looking.

1507
01:26:43,657 --> 01:26:46,274
We go down this route,
we better pray none are found.

1508
01:26:49,204 --> 01:26:51,161
I'm gonna get
Elizabeth Wilmshurst's number.

1509
01:26:54,543 --> 01:26:57,160
You've put me
in a rather awkward position.

1510
01:26:57,295 --> 01:27:00,003
I'm sorry,
but thank you for seeing me.

1511
01:27:01,550 --> 01:27:04,167
I think what she did
took great courage.

1512
01:27:04,302 --> 01:27:08,262
And she was naive, of course,
but brave.

1513
01:27:08,390 --> 01:27:10,552
And you were brave enough
to resign.

1514
01:27:13,311 --> 01:27:15,223
But not to speak out in public.

1515
01:27:16,773 --> 01:27:20,062
Perhaps if I had, I might have
caused more of a brouhaha.

1516
01:27:20,193 --> 01:27:22,185
Sparked a proper debate.

1517
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:25,859
Can I ask you, uh,
how did you resign?

1518
01:27:30,412 --> 01:27:31,903
I wrote a letter.

1519
01:27:33,331 --> 01:27:36,244
And in that letter,
did you give a reason

1520
01:27:36,376 --> 01:27:38,368
for your resignation?

1521
01:27:38,503 --> 01:27:41,541
I restated my position
on the legality of going to war.

1522
01:27:41,673 --> 01:27:43,585
Which was?

1523
01:27:43,717 --> 01:27:46,050
That it would not be lawful
to use force

1524
01:27:46,178 --> 01:27:49,171
without a new
Security Council resolution.

1525
01:27:49,306 --> 01:27:53,641
Um, did Goldsmith initially
support your view?

1526
01:27:55,061 --> 01:27:56,893
He did.

1527
01:27:57,022 --> 01:27:59,435
He told Blair that
if military action were taken,

1528
01:27:59,566 --> 01:28:01,273
he expected the government
to be accused

1529
01:28:01,401 --> 01:28:03,518
of acting unlawfully.

1530
01:28:05,697 --> 01:28:07,939
And was that a written opinion?

1531
01:28:09,409 --> 01:28:11,571
It was a detailed advisory document.

1532
01:28:13,288 --> 01:28:16,622
Right, so then would that
have been his position

1533
01:28:16,750 --> 01:28:19,584
at the time that Katharine Gun
printed the Koza memo

1534
01:28:19,711 --> 01:28:21,452
on February the 3rd?

1535
01:28:23,757 --> 01:28:24,757
Yes.

1536
01:28:27,552 --> 01:28:29,714
And then he went to Washington.

1537
01:28:29,846 --> 01:28:31,758
Oh, really?

1538
01:28:31,890 --> 01:28:35,600
- Well, who did he meet there?
- I... I wasn't given details.

1539
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:40,847
But after that trip,
his opinion changed.

1540
01:28:40,982 --> 01:28:43,895
In nine short paragraphs,
he said that

1541
01:28:44,027 --> 01:28:47,771
the UN's authorisation
for the 1991 Gulf War

1542
01:28:47,906 --> 01:28:49,647
could be reactivated

1543
01:28:49,783 --> 01:28:52,446
to legitimise a new war with Iraq.

1544
01:28:52,577 --> 01:28:55,570
He told the Prime Minister
what he wanted to hear?

1545
01:28:55,705 --> 01:29:00,291
At best, he was persuaded to support
a really fringe point of view.

1546
01:29:00,418 --> 01:29:02,751
- Er, really fringe.
- Yeah.

1547
01:29:09,719 --> 01:29:11,005
- Martin Bright.
- Martin.

1548
01:29:11,137 --> 01:29:12,469
- Ben.
<i>- Ben.</i>

1549
01:29:12,597 --> 01:29:14,133
I took your whistleblower's case.

1550
01:29:14,266 --> 01:29:16,633
Yes, I heard. Can I meet her?

1551
01:29:16,768 --> 01:29:18,688
No, not yet, Martin.
I don't want a media frenzy.

1552
01:29:18,770 --> 01:29:22,639
Okay. When she's ready.
Before some hack tracks her down.

1553
01:29:22,774 --> 01:29:24,694
Come on, Ben, I broke her story.
I'm on her side.

1554
01:29:24,818 --> 01:29:27,936
Well, you can help by finding out
why the Attorney General

1555
01:29:28,071 --> 01:29:30,939
went to Washington
just before the war started.

1556
01:29:31,074 --> 01:29:33,407
Wait, Goldsmith went to DC?

1557
01:29:33,535 --> 01:29:34,887
<i>I'd like to know who he met there.</i>

1558
01:29:34,911 --> 01:29:36,322
<i>Right. I'm on it.</i>

1559
01:29:36,454 --> 01:29:38,912
- And how is Peter?
- Peter is in Iraq.

1560
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:41,077
Yeah, yeah, I know.
I've been reading his articles.

1561
01:29:41,209 --> 01:29:43,326
Listen, if he hears anything,
even a hint

1562
01:29:43,461 --> 01:29:46,044
that Saddam really did have
weapons of mass destruction,

1563
01:29:46,172 --> 01:29:47,458
then please call me.

1564
01:29:47,591 --> 01:29:49,423
Of course. Can I ask why?

1565
01:29:49,551 --> 01:29:52,009
Well, let's just say that
if WMD are found,

1566
01:29:52,137 --> 01:29:54,754
then defending Katharine will be
a little more complicated.

1567
01:29:54,890 --> 01:29:56,927
- I'll get back to you.
<i>- All right, thank you.</i>

1568
01:29:57,058 --> 01:29:58,515
Okay. Thank you. Bye.

1569
01:30:00,478 --> 01:30:04,188
There's thousands of inspectors here
from the US army, the British army,

1570
01:30:04,316 --> 01:30:06,023
the CIA, FBI.

1571
01:30:06,151 --> 01:30:07,358
<i>And still nothing?</i>

1572
01:30:07,485 --> 01:30:10,774
No, no, not a fucking thing.
Nothing.

1573
01:30:10,906 --> 01:30:13,774
Anyway, some Polish troops found
a cache of sarin gas warheads

1574
01:30:13,909 --> 01:30:15,887
dating back to the Iran-Iraq war,
but they were all empty.

1575
01:30:15,911 --> 01:30:18,028
And right now, I'm standing
in a glass factory

1576
01:30:18,163 --> 01:30:21,577
and all they've found is piles
of silica sand and soda ash.

1577
01:30:24,002 --> 01:30:25,038
So, yeah.

1578
01:30:25,170 --> 01:30:27,162
<i>Things must be getting ugly
in Washington.</i>

1579
01:30:27,297 --> 01:30:29,334
Well, you should talk to Ed.

1580
01:30:29,466 --> 01:30:31,360
Maybe we could end up doing
a joint piece or something.

1581
01:30:33,595 --> 01:30:35,035
- Peter, what was that?
<i>- No, no, no.</i>

1582
01:30:35,138 --> 01:30:38,381
It's just our guys detonating
some conventional ordnance.

1583
01:30:38,516 --> 01:30:39,927
- They don't wanna have...
<i>- Jesus.</i>

1584
01:30:40,060 --> 01:30:42,723
...kids finding unexploded shit
in the rubble.

1585
01:30:42,854 --> 01:30:45,267
All right, talk soon. Take care.

1586
01:30:45,398 --> 01:30:47,060
Yeah, all right, mate. Bye.

1587
01:30:47,943 --> 01:30:50,276
- February the 11th.
<i>- What?</i>

1588
01:30:50,403 --> 01:30:53,066
Goldsmith's in DC
meeting with the attorneys

1589
01:30:53,198 --> 01:30:55,690
for Bush, Powell, Rumsfeld and Rice.

1590
01:30:55,825 --> 01:30:57,428
<i>- Okay, hold on...</i>
- But that's not the big story.

1591
01:30:57,452 --> 01:31:01,992
The really big story is the OSP.
The Office of Special Plans.

1592
01:31:02,123 --> 01:31:05,116
Turns out when Bush wasn't getting
the intelligence he wanted,

1593
01:31:05,251 --> 01:31:10,292
Rumsfeld bypassed the CIA
and set up his own intelligence unit.

1594
01:31:10,423 --> 01:31:12,665
They fed raw unvetted intelligence

1595
01:31:12,801 --> 01:31:15,760
to Bush and Powell
who lied us into a war!

1596
01:31:15,887 --> 01:31:17,719
Yeah. Okay, Ed.
I appreciate that.

1597
01:31:17,847 --> 01:31:20,760
But let's, first, try and help
a young woman stay out of prison.

1598
01:31:20,892 --> 01:31:23,384
Uh, you said
Goldsmith met Bush's lawyers

1599
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:25,120
on February 11th.
Who were those lawyers?

1600
01:31:25,188 --> 01:31:27,271
"John Ashcroft, Alberto Gonzales,

1601
01:31:27,399 --> 01:31:30,517
"William Taft, Jim Haynes,
John Bellinger."

1602
01:31:30,652 --> 01:31:33,690
The attorneys for Bush,
Powell, Rumsfeld and Rice.

1603
01:31:33,822 --> 01:31:36,030
Wow. They really turned up the heat.

1604
01:31:36,157 --> 01:31:39,321
You know, I almost feel sorry
for Goldsmith.

1605
01:31:39,452 --> 01:31:42,411
Don't. He fucking caved when
his country needed him most.

1606
01:31:42,539 --> 01:31:44,622
- That's a great headline, mate.
<i>- It bloody is.</i>

1607
01:31:44,749 --> 01:31:45,830
All right.

1608
01:31:45,959 --> 01:31:47,200
<i>- Print it.</i>
- Yeah.

1609
01:31:47,335 --> 01:31:48,396
- Bye.
<i>- We'll share the byline.</i>

1610
01:31:48,420 --> 01:31:49,911
Bye.

1611
01:31:50,046 --> 01:31:51,046
Nutter.

1612
01:31:51,172 --> 01:31:53,334
<i>Goldsmith
was under tremendous pressure</i>

1613
01:31:53,466 --> 01:31:54,568
<i>before he went to Washington.</i>

1614
01:31:54,592 --> 01:31:56,458
Our military
were refusing to invade

1615
01:31:56,594 --> 01:31:58,210
without a clear legal opinion
from him

1616
01:31:58,346 --> 01:31:59,490
that what they were doing
was legal

1617
01:31:59,514 --> 01:32:01,426
<i>in case of a war crimes trial.</i>

1618
01:32:01,558 --> 01:32:02,969
Thank you, Martin. Very helpful.

1619
01:32:03,101 --> 01:32:04,842
Well, no, hang on, hang on, hang on.

1620
01:32:04,978 --> 01:32:05,997
Do you think you have a defence?

1621
01:32:06,021 --> 01:32:07,728
- We're working on it.
<i>- Okay.</i>

1622
01:32:07,856 --> 01:32:09,417
<i>- Let me know when you do.</i>
- Well, you'll hear it in court.

1623
01:32:09,441 --> 01:32:11,273
<i>- Come on, Ben.</i>
- Bye.

1624
01:32:11,401 --> 01:32:13,063
- He's persistent.
- He is.

1625
01:32:13,194 --> 01:32:16,062
But it's your story and you don't need
a media trial.

1626
01:32:17,032 --> 01:32:19,866
We should request
full disclosure of all legal advice

1627
01:32:19,993 --> 01:32:23,282
given by Goldsmith in the year
leading up to the invasion.

1628
01:32:23,413 --> 01:32:25,496
Oh, he'll almost certainly
refuse to comply.

1629
01:32:25,623 --> 01:32:27,239
Then we'll subpoena Wilmshurst.

1630
01:32:27,375 --> 01:32:30,083
Hell, we'll subpoena Goldsmith
himself. And Blair, too.

1631
01:32:30,211 --> 01:32:34,296
Ben, if we can't prove that
Goldsmith changed his advice,

1632
01:32:34,424 --> 01:32:37,758
we can't argue that Katharine
tried to stop an illegal war.

1633
01:32:38,595 --> 01:32:40,086
What then?

1634
01:32:48,605 --> 01:32:51,973
- Then I'll be found guilty.
- Almost certainly, yes.

1635
01:32:59,491 --> 01:33:03,075
So... do you want to risk it all

1636
01:33:03,203 --> 01:33:06,696
and ask for disclosure
of the government's documents?

1637
01:33:07,999 --> 01:33:11,868
Or would you rather plead guilty
and hope for a reduced sentence?

1638
01:33:20,261 --> 01:33:21,797
I think...

1639
01:33:23,431 --> 01:33:26,515
we were lied into an illegal war.

1640
01:33:32,899 --> 01:33:34,686
Let's ask for the documents.

1641
01:33:41,241 --> 01:33:42,482
All right.

1642
01:34:12,480 --> 01:34:13,937
You ready?

1643
01:34:14,065 --> 01:34:16,057
No statements now, remember.

1644
01:34:16,192 --> 01:34:18,058
Let's just get through those doors.

1645
01:34:41,009 --> 01:34:43,467
- Katharine, you okay?
- Yeah.

1646
01:34:43,595 --> 01:34:44,947
Ben's already in the courtroom

1647
01:34:44,971 --> 01:34:47,384
but he wanted you to meet
Martin Bright.

1648
01:34:47,515 --> 01:34:49,632
Uh, he's covering the trial.

1649
01:34:49,767 --> 01:34:51,724
Katharine, it's an honour.

1650
01:34:51,853 --> 01:34:54,220
I'll be in the press gallery.
I hope that's all right?

1651
01:34:54,355 --> 01:34:56,893
Yeah, uh, yeah, you...

1652
01:34:57,025 --> 01:34:59,688
You took a... a real risk.

1653
01:34:59,819 --> 01:35:01,435
No, you took the risk.

1654
01:35:01,571 --> 01:35:03,091
I think what you did
was extraordinary.

1655
01:35:03,156 --> 01:35:05,773
I think what you exposed
was extraordinary.

1656
01:35:05,909 --> 01:35:07,696
All our institutions failed us.

1657
01:35:07,827 --> 01:35:09,467
The government,
the intelligence services,

1658
01:35:09,579 --> 01:35:12,287
the press,
they failed us categorically.

1659
01:35:12,415 --> 01:35:15,408
Even my own paper supported
the war before that memo.

1660
01:35:15,543 --> 01:35:18,001
- Well, thank you for being here.
- No, thank you.

1661
01:35:19,005 --> 01:35:21,793
It's important what you did.
It matters.

1662
01:35:23,885 --> 01:35:26,218
- We should go in, Martin.
- Yes.

1663
01:35:26,346 --> 01:35:29,134
Sorry, James. Yes. Uh, be strong.

1664
01:35:32,727 --> 01:35:34,593
Katharine, you're...
you're going that way.

1665
01:35:34,729 --> 01:35:36,561
Uh, can I... Can I just have a moment?

1666
01:35:36,689 --> 01:35:38,806
- Of course.
- Thanks.

1667
01:35:41,945 --> 01:35:43,607
You should leave that behind, ma'am.

1668
01:35:43,738 --> 01:35:46,105
Uh, yeah, sorry,
can I just have a second? Just...

1669
01:35:57,168 --> 01:35:58,579
<i>Janum?</i>

1670
01:35:58,711 --> 01:36:01,454
Hi. Erm, I'm about to go in.

1671
01:36:05,843 --> 01:36:07,334
I love you.

1672
01:36:08,596 --> 01:36:10,553
I love you, too.

1673
01:36:10,682 --> 01:36:13,925
Uh, I'm... I'm gonna try
and call as soon as I can.

1674
01:36:14,852 --> 01:36:16,935
<i>I wish I was there with you.</i>

1675
01:36:19,691 --> 01:36:22,149
I know.

1676
01:36:22,277 --> 01:36:23,893
I'm so sorry.

1677
01:36:24,028 --> 01:36:26,315
<i>You have nothing to be sorry for.</i>

1678
01:36:27,907 --> 01:36:30,775
I'm so proud of you.
So proud of you.

1679
01:36:34,580 --> 01:36:35,946
Bye.

1680
01:36:37,041 --> 01:36:38,077
Bye.

1681
01:36:43,756 --> 01:36:45,247
Miss?

1682
01:36:47,135 --> 01:36:48,546
Sorry.

1683
01:36:48,678 --> 01:36:50,465
I can take your bag.

1684
01:36:50,596 --> 01:36:53,088
- We'll see you in there, okay?
- Yeah.

1685
01:37:24,464 --> 01:37:26,831
Your scarf and jacket, please.

1686
01:37:32,764 --> 01:37:35,222
Okay, and then if you'll raise
your arms.

1687
01:37:49,072 --> 01:37:50,608
Okay.

1688
01:37:55,912 --> 01:37:57,369
She's here.

1689
01:37:58,039 --> 01:37:59,701
Right. Okay.

1690
01:37:59,832 --> 01:38:01,164
Judge is ready.

1691
01:38:11,260 --> 01:38:12,671
Up you go.

1692
01:38:34,700 --> 01:38:37,317
Are you Katharine Teresa Gun?

1693
01:38:37,453 --> 01:38:38,569
Yes.

1694
01:38:38,704 --> 01:38:41,572
I'm sorry.
Can you speak up, please?

1695
01:38:42,333 --> 01:38:43,619
Yes, I am.

1696
01:38:43,751 --> 01:38:45,959
"Katharine Teresa Gun,

1697
01:38:46,087 --> 01:38:47,953
"you are charged with an offence

1698
01:38:48,089 --> 01:38:50,672
"contrary to section 1,
subsection 1

1699
01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:54,544
"of the Official Secrets Act
of 1989.

1700
01:38:54,679 --> 01:38:58,673
"In that between January 30th
and March 2nd of 2003

1701
01:38:58,808 --> 01:39:01,346
"you did knowingly
and intentionally

1702
01:39:01,477 --> 01:39:04,094
"disclose top-secret
intelligence information

1703
01:39:04,230 --> 01:39:06,722
"contrary to the said act."

1704
01:39:06,858 --> 01:39:10,272
How do you plead?
Guilty or not guilty?

1705
01:39:13,030 --> 01:39:14,862
Ms Gun?

1706
01:39:17,452 --> 01:39:19,034
Not guilty.

1707
01:39:22,957 --> 01:39:25,415
Yes, Mr Ellison.

1708
01:39:29,255 --> 01:39:31,417
Yes, thank you, my lord.

1709
01:39:32,467 --> 01:39:35,005
My lord, in light
of recent developments,

1710
01:39:36,179 --> 01:39:38,637
the prosecution will offer
no evidence

1711
01:39:38,764 --> 01:39:41,006
against the defendant
on this indictment.

1712
01:39:42,935 --> 01:39:44,676
I beg your pardon?

1713
01:39:47,148 --> 01:39:50,357
My lord, the prosecution
will not pursue the indictment.

1714
01:39:50,485 --> 01:39:52,477
Today?

1715
01:39:52,612 --> 01:39:54,569
- No, my lord.
- I'm sorry.

1716
01:39:54,697 --> 01:39:58,441
Are you asking
for an adjournment, Mr Ellison?

1717
01:39:59,535 --> 01:40:00,651
No, my lord.

1718
01:40:00,786 --> 01:40:05,747
You are saying that you
do not wish to proceed at all?

1719
01:40:05,875 --> 01:40:09,414
- Yes, my lord.
- But the accused confessed.

1720
01:40:10,880 --> 01:40:14,794
- Yes, my lord.
- And yet you do not wish to proceed?

1721
01:40:14,926 --> 01:40:16,446
- No, my lord.
- I'm sorry.

1722
01:40:16,552 --> 01:40:18,384
I find that extraordinary.

1723
01:40:18,513 --> 01:40:20,470
Do you care to explain?

1724
01:40:23,392 --> 01:40:26,806
My lord, the accused submitted
an unusual defence.

1725
01:40:26,938 --> 01:40:29,100
Yes. The defence of necessity.

1726
01:40:29,232 --> 01:40:30,814
- Yes.
- And?

1727
01:40:30,942 --> 01:40:33,980
And we do not believe we have
sufficient evidence to rebut it.

1728
01:40:34,111 --> 01:40:35,818
Why not? She confessed.

1729
01:40:35,947 --> 01:40:37,734
Because, my lord,

1730
01:40:37,865 --> 01:40:40,903
the documents that
we have called for would show

1731
01:40:41,035 --> 01:40:44,244
that this country was taken
to war illegally.

1732
01:40:45,665 --> 01:40:48,248
And... And may expose

1733
01:40:48,376 --> 01:40:51,414
the government to charges
of war crimes.

1734
01:40:51,546 --> 01:40:53,959
- That is absurd!
- Is it?

1735
01:40:55,675 --> 01:41:00,045
Then kindly hand over the documents
that we have asked to see.

1736
01:41:00,972 --> 01:41:02,634
My lord, the prosecution
is not obliged.

1737
01:41:02,765 --> 01:41:05,052
Indeed, it is not permitted
to continue with a case

1738
01:41:05,184 --> 01:41:08,552
if it does not believe there is
a realistic prospect of a conviction.

1739
01:41:08,688 --> 01:41:10,600
To do so would be a waste
of taxpayers' funds.

1740
01:41:10,731 --> 01:41:12,347
My lord, I am thankful

1741
01:41:12,483 --> 01:41:15,692
that the charges against Ms Gun
are being withdrawn

1742
01:41:15,820 --> 01:41:18,153
and that the crown
is suddenly so determined

1743
01:41:18,281 --> 01:41:20,398
not to waste taxpayers' money.

1744
01:41:20,533 --> 01:41:23,651
But surely,
after months of uncertainty

1745
01:41:23,786 --> 01:41:28,076
and severe distress,
Ms Gun is entitled to know

1746
01:41:28,207 --> 01:41:31,166
why the government
is dropping this case?

1747
01:41:31,294 --> 01:41:34,253
Indeed,
the public is entitled to know.

1748
01:41:34,380 --> 01:41:36,292
- Hear, hear.
- Hear, hear.

1749
01:41:38,718 --> 01:41:40,175
Mr Ellison?

1750
01:41:43,514 --> 01:41:45,380
Again, my lord, we do not feel

1751
01:41:45,516 --> 01:41:48,133
we have a realistic prospect
of a conviction.

1752
01:41:48,269 --> 01:41:50,226
There is nothing more I can say.

1753
01:41:51,105 --> 01:41:52,471
To be clear,

1754
01:41:52,607 --> 01:41:57,102
you are withdrawing all charges

1755
01:41:57,236 --> 01:41:59,148
against Katharine Teresa Gun?

1756
01:42:02,617 --> 01:42:04,028
Yes, my lord.

1757
01:42:14,462 --> 01:42:15,998
Ms Gun.

1758
01:42:21,302 --> 01:42:23,043
You are free to go.

1759
01:42:58,756 --> 01:43:01,499
<i>In a startling about-turn,
the Crown Prosecution Service</i>

1760
01:43:01,634 --> 01:43:03,591
<i>has dropped its case
against an intelligence...</i>

1761
01:43:03,719 --> 01:43:06,962
<i>At 29, Katharine Gun
was facing jail for breaking the...</i>

1762
01:43:07,098 --> 01:43:08,408
<i>The last thing
the government wanted</i>

1763
01:43:08,432 --> 01:43:09,792
<i>within months
of a general election</i>

1764
01:43:09,892 --> 01:43:12,760
<i>was a big court case focusing
on the legality of that war...</i>

1765
01:43:12,895 --> 01:43:14,831
<i>The lawyers wanted
the Attorney General's</i>

1766
01:43:14,855 --> 01:43:16,437
<i>secret advice to Downing Street</i>

1767
01:43:16,565 --> 01:43:19,683
<i>about whether invading Iraq
was or was not legal</i>

1768
01:43:19,819 --> 01:43:21,902
<i>disclosed at the Old Bailey.</i>

1769
01:43:22,029 --> 01:43:23,395
<i>And who was involved in deciding</i>

1770
01:43:23,531 --> 01:43:26,114
<i>whether today's case
went on to a trial...</i>

1771
01:43:30,037 --> 01:43:33,451
<i>First tonight,
Katharine Gun walks free.</i>

1772
01:43:33,582 --> 01:43:35,118
<i>In a dramatic about-turn, the Crown...</i>

1773
01:43:35,251 --> 01:43:36,867
<i>So did the Attorney General</i>

1774
01:43:37,002 --> 01:43:38,743
<i>put pressure on to stop the trial?</i>

1775
01:43:38,879 --> 01:43:40,415
<i>Did GCHQ?</i>

1776
01:43:40,548 --> 01:43:42,790
<i>Did the Prime Minister? No answers.</i>

1777
01:43:42,925 --> 01:43:47,169
<i>Tonight we're simply asked to believe
that there was no case to answer.</i>

1778
01:43:50,683 --> 01:43:52,595
Would you do it again?

1779
01:43:52,727 --> 01:43:55,060
- Would you do it again?
- I have no regrets.

1780
01:43:55,187 --> 01:43:57,645
Yes, and I would do it again, yes.

1781
01:44:12,788 --> 01:44:14,074
Caught anything?

1782
01:44:15,416 --> 01:44:16,827
Not yet.

1783
01:44:31,140 --> 01:44:33,757
You know, it wasn't my choice
to prosecute.

1784
01:44:36,020 --> 01:44:39,184
I was bound by the decision
of the Attorney General.

1785
01:44:40,858 --> 01:44:44,351
Why did you keep her
in a state of distress

1786
01:44:44,487 --> 01:44:47,480
for a year
before you brought charges?

1787
01:44:48,949 --> 01:44:51,316
The services wanted to make
an example of her.

1788
01:44:52,495 --> 01:44:55,533
If we dropped the case
any earlier...

1789
01:44:55,664 --> 01:44:58,202
what kind of message
would that have sent?

1790
01:45:03,130 --> 01:45:05,543
Do me a favour, Ken.

1791
01:45:05,674 --> 01:45:07,666
Go and fish somewhere else.