Olivia and Cassie stuff

 20, 9, 3, 14, 9, 6, 12, 7, 5, 10, 6, 20 = 121 (12d20)
http://orig01.deviantart.net/683e/f/2010/071/4/2/girl_with_owl_by_tsulala.jpg


[22:11] <Tangent> "I see dead people."
[22:11] <Tangent> A familiar power might actually be amusing
[22:12] <Tangent> since if the girl that got run over didn't reincarnate for whatever reason...
[22:12] <Anonymous_> I like it because you can get crazy with the spirits...
[22:12] <Anonymous_> Have them doing the moon walk and what not while their attacking.
[22:15] <Tangent> Raven sounds about right as a spirit user familiars
[22:16] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Hmm... Final reaction to Beastwood's OVA: mixed. On one hand, cute drider little sister... on the other hand, the cute human little sister...
[22:16] <Tangent> hmm?
[22:16] <Levinia-n-Niamh> T: Having the ghost of Previous Girl as a familiar?
[22:17] <Levinia-n-Niamh> That would make for an interesting story...
[22:17] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Though she could also be a monster musume type ghost, as a Big Freind...
[22:18] <Karla_Morgenstern> >Ghost of MG Past
[22:18] <Tangent> Maybe an owl
[22:18] <Karla_Morgenstern> >YOU KILLED ME YOU IDIOT
[22:19] <Tangent> >Why is that owl glaring at me
[22:19] <Karla_Morgenstern> Sounds fun
[22:19] <Tangent> "Oh. Oh god. Um...I'm guessing a 'sorry' won't cut it..."
[22:19] <Anonymous_> I think there was a conversation about that in one of the past threads.
[22:20] <Anonymous_> Or about letting that girl possess you while she waits to re spawn if she is capable of doing so.
[22:20] <Karla_Morgenstern> What, a Birdy sort of thing?
[22:21] <Tangent> Hmmm might be more amusing if she's just the familiar. A very annoyed familiar.
[22:22] <Tangent> "Wait, is tha...are you LAUGHING at me?"
[22:22] <Tangent> And the new magical girl doesn't clue in until she actually looks at the familiar with spirit-vision.
[22:24] <Anonymous_> And similar to Birdy.
[22:24] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Fund it
[22:24] <Anonymous_> I think it was you I was discussing it with Karla.
[22:25] <Tangent> Yeah, I think I'm writing clueless spirit girl and short-tempered ghost-owl
[22:25] <Tangent> "Ow! What're you pecking me for?! Oh...I saw that. I got it, you can stop now..."
[22:25] <Tangent> "Ow."
[22:33] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Heheh... That's one I would really like to see
[22:34] <Tangent> Olivia isn't happy about being a flying feather duster. Cassie really, really regretted the time she made a joke about "hunt and peck" after getting a keyboard for her to type on...
[22:35] <Tangent> Olivia also has a habit of giving Cassie directions by pecking the ear she wants her to go towards.
[22:38] <Levinia-n-Niamh> "grumblemumblebird.. OW!"
[22:39] <Karla_Morgenstern> Owl patron could be interesting
[22:39] <Tangent> Olivia also tends to use her shoulder as a perch. Cassie wisely learned not to complain about the weight. Or the claws ruining three jackets in a row.
[22:39] <Karla_Morgenstern> Something like that knowledge spirit from Avatar
[22:39] <Tangent> True, I just think "familiar" has more hilarity potential.
[22:39] <Karla_Morgenstern> yeah
[22:39] <Tangent> Since the...ah, familiar is rather unhappy about it.
[22:39] <Tangent> Not outright furious, thinking Olivia partially is relieved that she doesn't need to fight anymore.
[22:40] <Tangent> But still not HAPPY about being dead and hacking up owl pellets.
[22:40] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Maybe Previous Girl's patron has some kind of bird connection, and reincarnated her as one as a reward for being such an effective servant, just in time to be the advisor to Patron's new girl?
[22:41] <Tangent> Neat. An air girl with a mentor?
[22:41] <Levinia-n-Niamh> That might be over complicating it, though
[22:41] <Tangent> Of course neither of them are going to know either way.
[22:41] <Tangent> As far as they're concerned, Olivia's an owl and it's kind of Cassie's fault for running her over and getting zapped for it.
[22:42] <Tangent> "Well maybe you shouldn't have run into the road at 2 in the mor-Ow!"
[22:43] <Tangent> But yeah, room for some amusing banter despite one of the participants' usual language being pecks, wingbeats, hoots, and if they're lucky microsoft sam?
[22:47] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Hmm... so can sufficient mastery of spirit magic allow Previous Girl to take human-ish form now and then? http://orig08.deviantart.net/c361/f/2012/155/0/f/owl_girl_by_2gold-d528a5r.png
[22:48] <Tangent> Probably.
[22:48] <Tangent> Thing is going by rolls Cassie isn't...the most talented mage
[22:48] <Tangent> So that's probably long term if ever
[22:48] <Levinia-n-Niamh> I know I'm saving that picture either way
[22:48] <Tangent> It's very shiny yeah.
[22:48] <Tangent> "I have a mouth again! Hahahahaha!"
[22:48] <Tangent> "Uh...Yay...Congrats..."
[22:49] <Tangent> "You're still an idiot."
[22:55] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Well, the spell WAS supposed to turn the familiar fully human, to blend in better in places where an animal wouldn't...
[22:56] <Karla_Morgenstern> Character idea: Narcissist with Twin Soul
[22:57] <Tangent> So...most twin souls? :p
[22:58] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Normal owl form? http://img03.deviantart.net/f85d/i/2012/261/f/1/wip_cute_owl_by_artemis_phoenix-d5f4mr7.jpg
[22:59] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Also, obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hBpF_Zj4OA
[22:59] <Tangent> Not grumpy enough. :D
[23:05] <Levinia-n-Niamh> So more like this one, then? https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6005/5927758528_a2060423e7_b.jpg
[23:06] <Tangent> Oh yes.
[23:06] <Tangent> :D
[23:06] <Tangent> Owlivia's default expression is "are you kidding me"?
[23:40] <Tangent> A spirit magical girl would basically be playing Ghostbusters, right?
[23:40] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Could be.
[23:40] <Levinia-n-Niamh> If you want to write it like that.
[23:41] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Could be Princess Mononoke or... damn, waht's the name of that show about the guy who sees restless spirits and tries to find ways to placate them?
[23:41] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Not Bleach, the other one
[23:42] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Alternately, Abenobashi Mahou Shoutengai
[23:43] <Anonymous_> So I could throw the black coin into a server room and severely mess things up?
[23:43] <Anonymous_> It's sounding like the Black Coin has potential use as an offensive weapon or as a distraction.
[23:43] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Nah, you'd just spawn another daemon
[23:44] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Any good sysadmin could deal with that
[23:44] <Anonymous_> So no bringing back dial up?
[23:44] <Levinia-n-Niamh> There's probably more to it than just "poke with coin, evil happens" though
[23:45] <Tangent> Hmmm. Amusing idea.
[23:45] <Levinia-n-Niamh> I mean, the whole point of the mana coins in general is that they're stable unless the energy is specifically tapped
[23:45] <Tangent> Cassie ends up running into zombies.
[23:46] <Levinia-n-Niamh> ... and?
[23:46] <Tangent> Freaks out, because I'm kinda a coward, and well, zombies are a lot less fun face to face. Olivia isn't amused by Cassie freezing in panic. PECK to snap her out of it.
[23:46] <Anonymous_> You would be tapping it to animate something wouldn't you?
[23:47] <Levinia-n-Niamh> T: Zombies are lame in general
[23:47] <Tangent> Well, yeah.
[23:47] <Levinia-n-Niamh> A: If you do it intentionally
[23:47] <Tangent> But there's lame and then there's "Oh crap, this is real and it wants to eat my face."
[23:48] <Levinia-n-Niamh> T: as a one episode collective mook, they're fine I guess
[23:48] <Tangent> Yeah an intro episode mook.
[23:48] <Levinia-n-Niamh> And probably really easy for a Spirit mage to dispose of
[23:48] <Tangent> ayuppp
[23:48] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Tutorial Level Zombies I am okay with
[23:49] <Tangent> Like I kind of like playing up the goofiness of the enemies in CYOA
[23:49] <Tangent> We're not talking Madoka witches, at least not as standard.
[23:50] <Levinia-n-Niamh> As the player whose story parts are summarized "Grimdark can suck it. Magical adventures and happy little sisters." I approve.
[23:50] <Tangent> I kind of have a bad habit of giving my PCs issues, but yeah, enemy and situation wise you don't want it to be too grim.
[23:51] <Levinia-n-Niamh> The MC's emotional and personal character arc is usually the point of Mahou Shojou, so you're in good company there.
[23:52] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Monsters and magic are only the tools used to tell the story
[23:54] <Levinia-n-Niamh> But back to the tutorial zombies - they'd atually be good targets to show that even as an owl, Olivia is a badass
[23:55] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Because seriously, owls, man. They're like ninja velociraptors that fly.
[23:55] <Tangent> Mmmm.
[23:55] <Tangent> >Do I really have to do this myself when I don't even have HANDS right now?
[23:56] <Levinia-n-Niamh> "Buh-b-but, ZOMBIES! EEEW!"
[23:58] <Tangent> More like "Oh crap oh crap this is real and they're dead and they're going to EAT MY FACE."
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[00:00] <Tangent> hey
[00:00] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Hiyo
[00:00] <notavampireloli> hey
[00:00] <notavampireloli> sorry just checking in
[00:00] <Tangent> No worries
[00:00] <Levinia-n-Niamh> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/9827609/Man-needed-hospital-treatment-after-owl-attack.html
[00:01] <notavampireloli> what
[00:01] <Levinia-n-Niamh> flying ninja velociraptors
[00:01] <notavampireloli> thats awsome
[00:01] <notavampireloli> I want beast to do this shit
[00:01] <notavampireloli> somehow
[00:01] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Tangent is writing it
[00:02] <notavampireloli> tangent you wonderful dude
[00:02] <notavampireloli> keep shining on.
[00:03] <Tangent> :D
[00:04] <Tangent> "ohn Mackay, 58, was left bleeding from the back of his head in a built up area of Inverness near to the city centre. He thought he'd been hit by a brick. "
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[00:07] <Karla_Morgenstern> Y'know, you can train owls like falcons
[00:07] <Karla_Morgenstern> Sorta
[00:07] <Karla_Morgenstern> I had a friend who did falconry, and he mentioned that it was possible, but rather hard
[00:12] <Levinia-n-Niamh> So, is the one thing both Owlivia and Cassie agree on, The Labrynth for movie night?
[00:20] <Tangent> :D
[00:24] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Hmm. Browser's acting like it will crash soon. Best to preempt that.
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[00:27] <Levinia-n-Niamh_> Oh crap, I forgot to save the chat log... oops. Tangent, you'd better come through...
[00:27] <Levinia-n-Niamh_> (insert stern-faced owl glare)
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[00:28] <Levinia-n-Niamh_> um.
[00:28] <Levinia-n-Niamh_> Bye, past me?
[00:28] <Tangent> Hey
[00:28] <Tangent> I saved the Cassie stuff, yeah.
[00:29] <Levinia-n-Niamh_> Good-o.
[00:34] <Levinia-n-Niamh_> Do you have a picture for Olivia?
[00:34] * Levinia-n-Niamh_ has found several girl-with-owl images
[00:35] <Levinia-n-Niamh_> For Cassie, I meant
[00:36] <Tangent> Nah, not yet.
[00:36] <Tangent> Still thinking about what kind of costume to go for
[00:36] <Tangent> But I'd love reference images
[00:37] <Levinia-n-Niamh_> Here's one of the good ones: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/50/6a/10/506a109d26c585b9bfc634e148359a06.jpg
http://www.wallpaperup.com/uploads/wallpapers/2013/07/31/125650/a67fae4b06e7d37943a3f139e8110a89.jpg

[00:46] <Levinia-n-Niamh_> Here's a decent girl with large-but-not-too-large owl: http://orig01.deviantart.net/683e/f/2010/071/4/2/girl_with_owl_by_tsulala.jpg

[00:48] <Tangent> Hmmm Cassie has a gypsy fortuneteller look?
[00:48] <Levinia-n-Niamh_> Elaborate, maybe on the upper edge of lfowing
[00:48] <Karla_Morgenstern> Flowing?
[00:48] <Karla_Morgenstern> Not elaborate, imo
[00:48] <Levinia-n-Niamh_> I can go with FLowing
[00:48] <Karla_Morgenstern> *not elaborate enough
[00:49] <Levinia-n-Niamh_> T: I can attempt coloring on that if you want.
[00:49] <Levinia-n-Niamh_> I'd need to know what colors you're looking for, of course
[00:50] <Tangent> ...Thanks for the offer, but I'm good, do appreciate it...mostly because I'm still not sure about her color scheme and stuff.
[00:51] <Levinia-n-Niamh_> No worries
[00:51] <Levinia-n-Niamh_> Alright if I post the spooky one as a vaguely-content-inclusive bump?
[00:51] <Tangent> But I meant how specifically would you describe that costume, not which category, as useful as it is
[00:51] <Tangent> Sure
[00:55] <Levinia-n-Niamh_> Describing the costume... Hm.
[00:56] <Levinia-n-Niamh_> Soft ankle boots with medium heels, the tops folded down into a leaf or boat shape
[00:56] <Tangent> Ornate bracelets...
[00:57] <Levinia-n-Niamh_> A light skirt that billows as she moves or in any breeze
[00:57] <Levinia-n-Niamh_> Actually, that's probably a drs, with the floral print or lace bodice attached
[00:58] <Levinia-n-Niamh_> dress, I meant. Or gown, but I think a gown would probably be longer and more formal
[00:59] <Levinia-n-Niamh_> A waist length, open jacket with lace cuffs and thin, eye-catching diagonal stripes
[00:59] <Tangent> Mmm
[00:59] <Levinia-n-Niamh_> Back to the bodice, I'd say its definitely a print or embroidery, since the lace collar is drawn quite differently
[01:00] <Levinia-n-Niamh_> Call it embroidery, I'd say
[01:00] <Tangent> Not sure what to call the headpiece, actually...descriptions aren't really my strong point so this is useful.
[01:00] <Tangent> Yeah.
[01:01] <Levinia-n-Niamh_> headpiece: A hair band over the top of the head, with more embroidery and lace trim
[01:02] <Tangent> *takes notes*
[01:02] <Levinia-n-Niamh_> The bracelets, ornate as you said, but mention the short chain of cabochons playing over the back of the hand
The bead and wrapped end of her braid is also worth noting - it won't be fraying loose without actual effort spent

[01:30] <Levinia-n-Niamh_> https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6005/5927758528_a2060423e7_b.jpg owl: Are you serious?
[01:30] <SnowRain> Ah, okay
[01:31] <Levinia-n-Niamh_> failed human polymorph: Yay, I have hands again! But you're still an idiot. http://orig08.deviantart.net/c361/f/2012/155/0/f/owl_girl_by_2gold-d528a5r.png
 A braid.
[01:34] <Tangent> *TUG*
[01:34] <Levinia-n-Niamh_> AKA a leash for your human, yes
[01:34] <SnowRain> Well, being transformed helps, but you'll still need to deal with it when not transformed
[01:34] <Levinia-n-Niamh_> But also Best Hairdo
[01:34] <SnowRain> lol
[01:35] <Karla_Morgenstern> >not using it to make an Owl-Flail
[01:37] <Levinia-n-Niamh_> Well, you could argue the bead-and-cone at the tip as bieng a weighted blade or spike, I guess.
[01:38] <Karla_Morgenstern> No, I mean the owl hangs on and you shake your hair back and forth
[01:38] <Levinia-n-Niamh_> But if your owl familiar is not silently prowling the skies to deliver sudden death from above in complete silence, you aren't owling properly
[01:38] <Karla_Morgenstern> And smack them with an owl
[01:38] <Anonymous_> Isn't that owl abuse?
[01:39] <Levinia-n-Niamh_> Owl abuse is what happens to you when you suggest that to the owl

Got another possible spirit to deal  with. It's rumored that one of the local schools is cursed - not one of the sports teams have won a single game in (time period,) drop-outs and delinqents are common, even among the teachers there have been so many scandals they've stopped being shocking
[11:57] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Actually, the problem is that the School Spirit is dead/angry/got sealed by an overzealous devil hunter/something like that
[11:58] <Tangent> heh nice
[11:58] <Tangent> Sounds nice and goofy.
[11:59] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Options include finding a new, energetic spirit to take its place, propitiating it, or releasing it and possibly hunting down the devil hunter to tell them to stop being so uptight
[13:09] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Oh, the lake of slimes thing isn't mentioned on that page. Here's one with it: http://www.thebridgewatertriangle.com/2013/12/lake-nippenickett-or-nip-for-short-is.html
[13:10] <Tangent> That actually sounds like story material, just add magic...
[13:10] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Olivia spurring Cassie into a training trip weekend there could be a thing
[13:11] <Tangent> :D
[13:11] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Slimes are classic low-level "trash" monsters for newbies to fight without much danger, after all
[13:11] <Tangent> Something something even you can't get this wrong, plenty of spiritual debris around for you to practice with
[13:12] <Tangent> which translates into *HOOT* and bobbing her head at the map.
[13:13] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Alternately, the slimes could be globs of ectoplasm that acculuate due to a hgh spiritual concentration around the Nip, making it easy to summon newbie-grade spirits or directly mold them out of energy, to avoid having to fight with more opinionated ones while getting a handle on the basics
[13:13] <Tangent> ohhhh nice
[13:13] <Levinia-n-Niamh> or just crafting material for Spirit spec
[13:14] <Tangent> Mmm.
[13:14] <Tangent> Worried about overlapping too much with empath
[13:14] <Tangent> But Spirit Summoning for noobs might have them use ectoplasm/thought or spirit fragments left behind?
[13:14] <Tangent> *in general
[13:15] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Spirit is more commanding external things, where EMpath absorbs and releases
[13:15] <Levinia-n-Niamh> You can summon a spirit for any job like you can find an emotion for every job, but they don't really work the same

[00:31] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Seriously, when your magic powers give you a bell, why do you not at least try ringing it before using it as a club!?
[00:31] <Tangent> :D
[00:31] <Tangent> Actually that'd be amusing.
[00:31] <Tangent> Wild flailing with the chime inadvertently triggers the bell. Stuns the zombies.
[00:32] <Tangent> Some of the mud starts to melt.
[00:34] <Levinia-n-Niamh> maybe the candlestick could be one of those hand-held ones, to render spirits generally visible and interactable? That's a classic take on it
[00:35] <Tangent> Maybe just the chime, at least to start with?
[00:36] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Since that's the one suited to her immediate need, sure
[00:36] <Tangent>  "Hey! N-now you're leaving?!" Cassie yelled at the vanishing owl, her panic making her babble. The only response was a dismissive hoot.
[00:36] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Book appears when she wants to cast, candle for doing spirit detective interaction things
[00:40] <Levinia-n-Niamh> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/29/-_Bugia_candlestick_-.jpg/1166px--_Bugia_candlestick_-.jpg
[00:40] <Tangent> Hmmmm.
[00:40] <Tangent> Reserving judgement on the other two for now, but thanks.
[00:41] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Cool
[00:42] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Having the bell on a cord/leather strap/something like that might be more thematic, actually. Less bludgeony, but you can still swing it around as a flail
[00:43] <Levinia-n-Niamh> More fitting with the intention of being rung to be used, or held as a magic focus
[00:43] <Tangent> chainlink, maybe?
[00:43] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Chainlink would jangle on its own, and make disruptive sounds, I would think
[00:45] <Tangent> cord then
[00:46] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Sounds good. It looks like the image I had i my mind of a short, looped leather strap, is just a common style for a metal handle on the handbell
[00:46] <Tangent> *nods*
[00:47] <Levinia-n-Niamh> http://store.schulmerichbells.com/img/hndbl_set.jpg well, maybe it's hard leather, I don't know
[00:47] <Tangent> ohhh, I was thinking a cord for the handle
[00:47] <Tangent> attached to the handle, that is
[00:48] <Levinia-n-Niamh> No, a cord works
[00:48] <Levinia-n-Niamh> It would be meant to be dangly, and you shake it to cast after focusing magic into the ball
[00:48] <Levinia-n-Niamh> bell
[00:49] <Levinia-n-Niamh> not knowing that, she swings it around to whack things
[00:49] <Levinia-n-Niamh> That works with a solid grip too, though
[00:49] <Levinia-n-Niamh> with basically the same description
[00:49] <Tangent> Hmm. Kinda do prefer the "shake by the handle" approach, rather than the one that's just a bell on a cord?
[00:49] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Go with the normal solid handle, then
[00:49] <Tangent> mmm
[00:50] <Tangent> heh walking the tightrope of "panicking newbie" and "darwin award winner"
[00:56] <Tangent>  Olivia'd finally managed to untangle her feet from Cassie's head while the new magical girl'd been backpedaling. Without a second thought, she took off. The zombies weren't her problem anymore. Finding a way to fix this was. Even a rookie should figure it out soon enough.  She could still hear the zombies as she flapped her wings.  They weren't dying.  ...Even a rookie that wasn't a moron should figure it out, Olivia mentally amended.
[00:56] <Levinia-n-Niamh> The thing is, "panicking newbie" is often synonomous with "Darwin award winner" in the most lteral way
[00:56] <Tangent> ayupppp
[00:56] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Fighter pilots who survived a few minutes of combat were no longer considered "rookies" in WWII, for example
[00:57] <Tangent> mmmm
[00:57] <Levinia-n-Niamh> re above snip, maybe "Even a rookie should figure it out, as long as they weren't a total moron"
[00:58] <Tangent> adding a line
[00:59] <Levinia-n-Niamh> "even a rookie that wasn't a moron" makes it sounld like being a moron is the norm and would make it easier
[00:59] * Levinia-n-Niamh suspects that Olivia has forgotten quite what her own first fight was like
[01:00] <Tangent> Selective amnesia
[01:00] <Tangent> and having an air spirit patron helped.
[01:00] <Levinia-n-Niamh> With several years of experience, even looking back at something honestly can be very different
[01:01] <Tangent> Plus Olivia is kind of full of herself
[01:01] <Tangent> it's not completely unjustified but uh
[01:01] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Well, she's the pro from dover, stripped of a lot of her cpaabilities and stuck rookiesitting
[01:01] <Tangent> mhmmm
[01:01] <Tangent> also update the story so far, how's it read?
[01:02] <Levinia-n-Niamh> She doe have a reasonable justification for being peeved
[01:02] <Tangent> http://pastebin.com/cYDQwsMh
[01:02] <Tangent> Yes, being run over does qualify.
[01:02] <Tangent> In Cassie's defense, she literally ran into the road.
[01:02] <Tangent> In Olivia's defense, Cassie was an awful driver when she still had a car.
[01:04] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Looks good so far, though it could maybe stand to have a few of the " 'd" expanded back into "X had"
[01:04] <Tangent> mkay
[01:04] <Tangent> Characters sound distinct? Not too cartoony?
[01:05] <Levinia-n-Niamh> No, that much is looking good
[01:05] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Perspective switches come a bit fast and furious, but there's no real way to get around that with one character unable to speak and the other one too gobsmacked for it
[01:06] <Tangent> That's kinda intentional.
[01:06] <Tangent> The crazy perspective switches are about to come to an end.
[01:07] <Levinia-n-Niamh> It's a confusing time, for both of them
[01:07] <Tangent> mmm
[01:07] <Tangent> Does the incoherence come over IC and not OOC?
[01:08] <Levinia-n-Niamh>  The owl swooped at Cassie's face with an angry screech. She yelped and ducked, and the claws that'd been meant for her face got caught in her hair instead. Instead of an angry owl clawing her face off, she now had an angry, entangled owl for a hat.
[01:08] <Levinia-n-Niamh> I think this one is the only place where not doinfg a perspective swap would be better
[01:08] <Tangent> mmm?
[01:08] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Most of the action in it is still Olivia, and the rest can be told thorugh the spoken line and narration
[01:09] <Tangent> Hmmm. I'll remember to try and rework that, but I'm kinda overly attached to the last line of that draft. But yeah, noted.
[01:09] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Basically, just swap in "She swooped at the rookie's face"
[01:10] <Tangent> Thanks btw.
[01:10] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Last line is gold, definitely keep
[01:12] <Tangent> How's that edit?
[01:13] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Does she know Cassie's name already? Maybe witout quite realizing it, as part of the familiar bond?
[01:13] <Levinia-n-Niamh> That's the only thing that sticks out now
[01:13] <Tangent> Nah, not yet, I thought I took out all the name references?
[01:14] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Otherwise good
[01:14] <Tangent> Did I miss a name reference?
[01:14] <Levinia-n-Niamh> "she swooped at Cassie's face"
[01:14] <Tangent> edited atm
[01:15] <Levinia-n-Niamh> (tuhmbs up)
[01:15] <Tangent> thanks
[01:15] <Tangent> It reads okay?
[01:15] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Yeah, it looks good.
[01:15] <Tangent> yay
[01:16] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Could even be posted, since it covers a mini-character arc of Liv scorning and then going back for Cass, but better to just keep going if it's still flowing for you
[01:16] <Tangent> "The owl slammed into one of the zombies like a small, fluffy comet."
[01:17] <Tangent> Yeah, going to finish it, probably end it when Cass gets a clue by four that yes, the owl is sentient
[01:17] <Tangent> Yes it's annoyed at you
[01:17] <Tangent> and yes it's actually the girl you just ran over when this started
[01:18] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Huh... Does Olivia get to experience the wierd of attending her own funeral?
[01:19] <Tangent> ...Heh, by coworkers or mundane?
[01:19] <Levinia-n-Niamh> If they haven't clued in that Cassie is a Spirit MG, there's sure to be some hanging around the graveyard to pick up on
[01:19] <Tangent> Because the SEP field is going to have a great time explaining this one away.
[01:19] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Why?
[01:20] <Tangent> Well, I guess the zombies might not leave remains behind
[01:20] <Tangent> since even the bones are mostly being kept together by sheer unpleasant-mindedness....
[01:20] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Esp with your old ID erased, it's a mystery why there was a little girl out in the woods or where the driver fled to, but otherwise the narrative is pretty clear
[01:20] <Tangent> No closure for this character but yeah.
[01:21] <Levinia-n-Niamh> I thought it was? Well, they're still not going to connect the (live) little girl with the driver who ran away after hitting one
[01:21] <Levinia-n-Niamh> That's if C hangs around to be found at all
[01:22] <Tangent> "...Wait, I'm wanted for murder?!"
[01:22] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Mass murder. There were a whole lot of partially decomposed remains found in that area...
[01:23] <Levinia-n-Niamh> though if so, the vehicular homocide was probably not the intended result
[01:24] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Alternately, they're looking for the killer who dragged a little girl out tere, and disposed of the dirver who hit her after she escaped and was trying to flee
[01:24] <Levinia-n-Niamh> If Cassie is found in the aftermath, that's probably the way to spin it
[01:24] <Tangent> either way, shenanigans
[01:25] <Levinia-n-Niamh> That she and O were both borought out there by some creepo who kept his face hidden, then escaped and ran to the road, O was hit by a car and the dirver fought creepo/just ran and you escaped in the confusion but can't ID either one definitely
[01:26] <Tangent> otoh Cassie DOES have incognito
[01:26] <Tangent> which just adds to the mess that is the mundane attempt to make sense of this
[01:26] <Levinia-n-Niamh> If the girl who was "rescued" just vanishes as well
[01:27] <Tangent> "Okay, why are there burned human remains here that we've matched to missing person cases from across three states? Come on, people, we're missing something here."
[01:27] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Sounds like one of those phantom-hitchiker ghost stories already
[01:27] <Tangent> Fun times: Cassie has no idea what powers she has either.
[01:28] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Wow, Incognito really does fit well with a spirit detective, doesn't it?
[01:28] <Tangent> mmm
[01:28] <Tangent> I'm actually surprised by how well the rolls meshed
[01:29] <Levinia-n-Niamh> She has Gifted, too. So once she gets her feet under her and figures out what her powers are, she should be really good at using them.
[01:29] <Tangent> mmm
[01:30] <Tangent> Surprise competence with character development.
[01:30] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Fodder for earning O's respect as a longer arc
[01:30] <Tangent> Many, many pecks later.

[04:27] <Levinia-n-Niamh> I was thinking cream-brownish-yellows-maroon earth tones, but I do tend to go a little overboard
[04:27] <Tangent> mmm
[04:28] <Tangent> cream for the flower-embroidery and skirt, maybe? maroon for the coat thing?  /is bad at good color schemes
[04:28] <Levinia-n-Niamh> This one is nice: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8PBTY8Q8iQw/UggFOhtgYXI/AAAAAAABS4M/61Oq7I7pqeo/s640/shanatanu-and-nikhil-showcase-bridal-collection-2013-in-delhi-15.jpg
[04:28] <Levinia-n-Niamh> maybe a little brighter marron
[04:28] <Tangent> mmm
[04:29] <Levinia-n-Niamh> https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/a7/1a/c3/a71ac3e50e41e483499dcaedc9e6105b.jpg
[04:29] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Cream mostly for the lace, I was thinking
[04:29] <Tangent> mmm
[04:30] <Tangent> maroon for the jacket or the stripes on it? Or maroon and darker stripes?
[04:30] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Maroon and darker stripes, I'd say.
[04:30] <Tangent> mmm
[04:30] <Tangent> maroon and cream as her main colors?
[04:31] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Sounds good
[04:31] <Tangent> Shiny, thanks.
[04:32] <Tangent> white puffs for the flower embroidery?
[04:33] <Levinia-n-Niamh> I was thinking cream background on the bodice with the skirt and embroidery in a dusty pink (maroon plus some white, basically)
[04:33] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Up to you though
[04:33] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Boots in the jacket's main color
[04:34] <Tangent> Huh, was thinking a shade of brown for the skirt for some reason but again >bad at color matching...but pink's interesting definitely for embroidery...
[04:34] <Levinia-n-Niamh> If she's wearing hose, they could be brown
[04:35] <Tangent> Hmm. Eh, main colors make sense and that's good enough for now. :D
[04:36] <Levinia-n-Niamh> http://classiq.me/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/givenchy-fall-2014-stockings-and-sandals-1.jpg
[04:39] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Hair color?
[04:40] <Tangent> Brown, I think. A lighter shade of brown? Dark eyes? I kinda like the art's look.
[04:41] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Sort of an indeterminate not-blonde light yellowish brown?
[04:43] <Levinia-n-Niamh> http://dfemale.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/light-brown-almost-blonde-hair-color.jpg
[04:43] <Tangent> hmmm maybe a /bit/ more towards the brown side of that?
[04:43] <Tangent> only because I inadvertently overused blonde as a PC hair color- and I was kinda surprised
[04:44] <Tangent> The funny thing is they were cheerful but were pretty much all over the personality spectrum other than that
[04:44] <Levinia-n-Niamh> http://usafashionaward.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Highlights-for-Brown-Hair-and-Blue-Eyes.jpg
[04:45] <Tangent> Neat
[04:48] <Levinia-n-Niamh> What if the skirt is a similar, thoguh not the same, color? Probably lighter
[04:49] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Light the brightest highlights on that hair photo
[04:49] <Levinia-n-Niamh> like them, I meant
[04:49] <Tangent> That'd work. Do you think that'd mesh well colorwise? Maroon jacket, cream shirt with pink embroidering, and...cream? hazel? skirt like you suggested? Dunno about what hose would make sense, but maroon shoes?
[04:50] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Well, I wouldn't be suggesting it if I didn't hink it would work :D
[04:50] <Tangent> Point. xD
[04:51] <Tangent> So your idea for the skirt is cream, hazel, or...
[04:51] <Levinia-n-Niamh> Something like that, yes
[04:51] <Levinia-n-Niamh> I htink a fashion designer would call it "sand" or something, probably
[04:52] <Tangent> Shiny.
[05:28] <PhoenixHanabi> heart-shaped and unusually symmetrical, with perfectly clear skin, a pert nose, and expressive eyes. Her ears have multiple piercings fited with unobtrusive small studs similar to the stones in her cabochon bracelets.
[05:29] <Tangent> ...Want to hear something amusing?
[05:29] <PhoenixHanabi> Given the outfit colors previously discussed, I'd make the eyes either a warm mahogany brown or hazel brownish-green
[05:29] <PhoenixHanabi> Lip gloss dark but not as dark as her jacket, it any
[05:29] <PhoenixHanabi> if any
[05:30] <Tangent> I actually missed that. It might make sense for CASSIE to miss the piercings until she gets a chance to de-stress. And mmm. Was thinking of brown, but hazel-green kinda works better since >ectoplasm.
[05:30] <PhoenixHanabi> nails well-manicured and given a coat of clear gloss, if any
[05:30] <Tangent> *scribble scribble*
[05:31] <PhoenixHanabi> Toenails as well, when she gets around to detransforming
[05:33] <Tangent> >"What the fuck, Puuchu?"
[05:33] <PhoenixHanabi> Generally very little body hair, and what is there is soft and all but invisible except down below.
[05:33] <Tangent> Meethinks the braid is going to go. At least if it's not part of the "factory setting" for the costume.
[05:34] <Tangent> Or would that fall under eternal style?
[05:35] <PhoenixHanabi> *I* certainly think braids are eternally in style, but it's your character
[05:35] <Tangent> Well yeah but I know I wouldn't have the patience for it, Cassie'd generally be unamused by everything, and the braid's an obvious target.
[05:36] <Tangent> Just saying that if a certain hairstyle is part of the "look", would cutting it cause it to not be restored next time in costume in your opinion.
[05:36] <PhoenixHanabi> I think the "laesh for your human" thing is a great reason to keep it, OOC at least.
[05:36] <Tangent> Yeah.
[05:36] <Tangent> So *pop* Factory setting again.
[05:36] <PhoenixHanabi> Cutting it off every time she detransforms couls also be a thing
[05:37] <Tangent> >The one time she got the bright idea of selling the cut hair, it turned out to melt into ectoplasm.
[05:37] <PhoenixHanabi> And then Olivia scolds her for leaving hair lying around where enemies could get it to use in remote magical attacks
[05:37] <Tangent> heh
[05:38] <Tangent> Funny thing really: Spirit ISN'T O's speciality.
[05:38] <Tangent> So her mentor role's a bit tricky too.
[05:38] <Tangent> Probably writing a O-centric story at some point.
[05:38] <PhoenixHanabi> The ectoplasm thing is good too, but actually, being able to donate the hair to whichever group it is makes wigs for chemotherapy patients might be enough to trigger the "doing good feels good" effect
[05:39] <Tangent> otoh she's going to be basically lost and broke for a good while
[05:39] <Tangent> so that's more longer term
[05:39] <Tangent> Thinking Cassie really, really doesn't like being a thief. :D
[05:41] <PhoenixHanabi> Well, no. Doing good feels extra good, but bad tings still feel bad, or at least as much as they ever did.
[05:41] <Tangent> Ayuppp.
[05:41] <PhoenixHanabi> Probably a little more, if it troubles others
[05:41] <Tangent> Thinking non-violent theft doesn't trigger anything- it's just guilt inducing.

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/elderscrolls/images/4/43/NordicGauntlets.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/250?cb=20130309122246

http://www.trueswords.com/medieval-steel-steel-gauntlets-polished-layered-design-p-5867.html

[18:12] <PhoenixHanabi> I'd say average height for her apparent age, with the kind of slender build entire cliques of high school girls would get catty over
[18:12] <PhoenixHanabi> Nah, I'm happy to help
[18:13] <PhoenixHanabi> A heart shaped face with a pert nose, and large, expressive eyes slightly downturned at the corners, making her look pensive even when she's not

[21:35] <Tangent> Just finally got it to install. Wondering how to handle the gender bender aspect well for Cassie on the side- like it's definitely a THING that needs acknowledgement in-story but not my usual area of writing and definitely not with a kinda-SI.
[21:44] <IWBTG> Right. Honestly there's not as much dealing with it in a lot of these stories as I thought there would be.
[21:45] <Tangent> Mmm. Like not /dwelling/ on it beyond what's reasonable, she's got plenty of angst as is and more than I meant her to originally, just...>This isn't me. This isn't me at all. should be a thing, right?
[21:46] <IWBTG> As far as Nadia goes, I think I'm resolving it by having her sort of partition her personality a bit. Like, in her mind, she's only pretending to be this cool girl, so she sees the girl and herself as separate entities almost.
[21:47] <IWBTG> Plus, if she's supposed to be not-me, and I'm the one willingly writing this stuff, she must be okay with it at least on some subconscious level. That might be getting too meta though.
[21:47] <Tangent> Wheras Cassie doesn't have that comforting self-delusion, just the personality equivalent of being sedated (mild, but it's there) and having more things to deal with and heh. I'm honestly more worried about a)keeping her as me on some level or at least starting that way, b)making her consistent and INTERESTING to read about
[21:48] <Tangent> So more "...Okay. That's a thing that exists. More crap to deal with. Going to deal with it." than Nadia's hiding behind a facade?
[21:49] <Tangent> And yeah, it gets weird if you start thinking about it means when you willingly break your SI's psyche. xD
[21:49] <IWBTG> Right, that makes sense. Just another thing to add the pile and be overwhelmed by.
[21:49] <IWBTG> Haha
[21:49] <Tangent> Cassie looked down at herself. Yep, it's definitely a girl. She thought glumly, then reached for the hoodie.
[21:51] <IWBTG> Yeah, that's way different. Nadia keeps talking about the girl in the mirror and how that's the ideal she wants to live up to. She's crafted this entire persona that she feels like the person represented by her new body should be.
[21:51] <Tangent> Thinking she's most bothered even more than by the body than by the fact it makes her a /stranger/? She- and me- is someone who tends to like their comfort zones. Routines. Nice quiet stability, even if she does get a thrill out of adventure...so something like losing her entire life and connection to everyone she ever knew would uhhhh be if anything the bigger hit than "lol teenage girl", if that makes sense?
[21:51] <IWBTG> Right, of course.
[21:52] <Tangent> Cassie's not trying to live up to anything- yet, she ends up clinging to Puuchu's "suggested" persona as a matter of being so lost and scrambled that it seems better than nothing
[21:52] <Tangent> Plus...well, the nudge, actually knowing she's doing good...lots of little things.
[21:52] <Tangent> All that makes sense?
[21:52] <IWBTG> Right
[21:52] <IWBTG> Yeah, of course
[21:53] <IWBTG> Hold on, I have a resopnse but I just got pulled into an instance
[21:53] <Tangent> Like she's going to be bothered by it in this story in the near future- gets frustrated by her own costume, inadvertently magically detransforms. Nakedness ensues. Cue response above.
[22:02] <IWBTG> Mostly, Nadia doesn't really see her body as hers, and that's how she's coping. She has a whole thing where she feels really guilty about thinking and doing certain things because she can't divorce her old self from her actions, even if she objectively realizes that she is the little girl now.
[22:03] <Tangent> Cassie...well, she's getting the door slammed in her face in the most direct way possible soon. Think that'll be the straw that breaks the camel's back?
[22:04] <IWBTG> It's the same reason she felt really ashamed of having feelings for Holly, because in her mind it was like, "Alright, I'm a grown dude with a crush on some girl who's like fourteen. This is disgusting on some level." Without being able to come to terms with the fact that she wasn't exactly a grown guy anymore. It's why she tries so hard to be the k
[22:04] <IWBTG> ind of person she thinks Nadia is.
[22:04] <IWBTG> Oh, yeah, that'll definitely be it. If she can't even hold on to the thinnest tether to her old life, you know?
[22:05] <Tangent> Mmm.
[22:05] <Tangent> So people in situations they're not designed for coping poorly, sounds about right.
[22:30] <Tangent> So Cassie'd basically be less "lol teenage girl" more "issues with her identity being torn down and this being another part of that?"
[22:32] <IWBTG> Well, dysphoria is a real thing that she would probably have to deal with at some point, but I can't imagine that it's the first thing on her mind considering everything else that's changed and gone wrong.
[22:32] <Tangent> Mmm.
[22:33] <IWBTG> So I guess it'd be more like, "And on top of all of these identity issues, I don't even feel comfortable in this body."
[22:34] <Tangent> Though with literal magic involved bets are kind of off for the dysphoria thing but mhmm
[22:35] <IWBTG> That's fair; the magic could rewire the brain to identify as a girl I guess. Although that would probably cause a more existential crisis when/if she realizes that this essential part of her personality was just overwritten like that.
[22:35] <Tangent> Ayupppp.
[22:36] <Tangent> Yeah, Cassie's already gotten a preview of /that/ particular egg with the name thing, the personality effects, she'll clue into basically being magically drugged to want to hunt...
[22:36] <Tangent> So yay for another cascade of issues?
[22:38] <Tangent> So yeah thinking quiet panic over "how much of me is me?" is going to be a thing that ends up eventually bubbling over after the first round of issues
[22:39] <IWBTG> Similar to Holly's issues?
[22:39] <Tangent> Holly was more throwing herself into being an idiot hero- very much on purpose. Cassie's more quietly stewing, if that makes sense.
[22:39] <Tangent> And in what sense?
[22:40] <IWBTG> I know a lot of Holly's issues stemmed from having her memories played with and altered, right? Basically only about that deep.
[22:50] <Tangent> mmm yeah, they've got that in common
[22:50] <Tangent> Not really surprising seeing as well they've got someone in common xD
[22:51] <Tangent> They do both have issues with casual murder
[22:51] <Tangent> But Cassie's going to be a bit more...open to alternatives there
[22:53] <Tangent> Also eventually more level headed than Holly
[22:53] <Tangent> since when you have a pretty good idea of how death works... xD
[23:28] <Tangent> Hmmm.
[23:28] <Tangent> SWTOR is fun xD
[23:28] <Tangent> Probably going to procrastinate on Cassie for a while haha
[23:28] <Tangent> Silly question but how's her personality come over so far?
[01:17] <IWBTG> Sorry, I fell asleep I guess, haha
[01:17] <Tangent> np, wb xD
[01:17] <Tangent> So yeah kinda curious how Cassie reads so far
[01:18] <IWBTG> She seems like she' just kind of being carried along with things. Sort of passively resentful of the situation but already at the point where she realizes complaining won't do anything to help her.
[01:18] <Tangent> Bit /too/ passive and resigned? Hmmm.
[01:20] <Tangent> So she could stand to show more life/emotion? Got it.
[01:22] <IWBTG> Yeah, if that's what you're going for.
[01:25] <Tangent> Well Cassie's meant to be somewhat level headed but not a Rei Ayanami if that makes sense
[01:26] <IWBTG> Right. I guess what I can say is that Cassie doesn't really have a clear motivation. Like, she's clearly not thrilled with the magical girl thing, so why is she going along with it other than just because she sort of feels like she has to?
[01:27] <Tangent> *nods*
[01:27] <IWBTG> That's what I mean by getting swept along with things.
[01:27] <IWBTG> Sort of.
[01:27] <Tangent> Mmm.
[01:27] <Tangent> Think the next part should clear things up a bit there actually
[01:27] <Tangent> She sees the ghost
[01:27] <Tangent> considers just walking away
[01:28] <Tangent> then decides, no, she's going to find out what's going on and make her own choice for once
[01:28] <Tangent> and that voice in the back of her head has nothing to do with it of course
[01:28] <IWBTG> Of course :P
[01:35] <Tangent> So yeah, that might be her taking some intiative, thanks for the commentary
[01:35] <Tangent> Like she's less /directly/ active than, say, Holly but I definitely don't want to write her as flotsam indefinitely
[01:35] <IWBTG> Sure thing
[01:37] <Tangent> Thinking Cassie's future is actually as the calmer of the duo?
[01:37] <IWBTG> Probably the more level headed, I think. She doesn't seem like one to let passion get in the way of her judgment.
[01:44] <Tangent> Might need to rethink parts of how I'm writing her hmmm.
[01:47] <Tangent> Since she /is/ meant to fundamentally be me/Holly under different circumstances and I'm not really quite /that/ level-headed.
[01:50] <IWBTG> It's mostly because it doesn't really seem like she has that much left that she values, you know? There's a sense of duty there, so she keeps on trucking, but beyond feeling obligated she doesn't have anything that she deeply cares about it seems.
[01:50] <IWBTG> So she has no reason to get worked up.
[01:50] <Tangent> Mmm.
[02:03] <Tangent> Thinking that composure cracks early and often soonish?
[02:11] <IWBTG> At the beginning, yeah. She just gets overwhelmed after a certain point and just cracks.
[02:12] <Tangent> With the ghost exorcism this story being a sort of false recovery?
[02:12] <Tangent> Her getting things together long enough to get something done, then have the whole thing crashing down when she finds out the rest of what happened at the accident?
[02:15] <IWBTG> That'd be a nice juxtaposition, yeah. She finally feels like she's getting back on her feet and accomplishing something. Has some hope for the future.
[02:15] <IWBTG> And then "Oh here's your corpse and your family hates you. Sorry."
[02:16] <Tangent> ayuppp
[02:16] <Tangent> break the Cassie :V
[02:28] <Tangent> Thinking she might be less the emote type and more the type who lets pressure build up until it's too much?
[02:32] <IWBTG> That sounds completely reasonable to me

Right, I didn't forget about you! Just was busy a bit. Anyway did you want the character traits that it seems to suggest about her or something more like a typecast/trope set she seems to fit? I feel more comfortable listing the former though. Anyway: she seems to be an analytical type. Thinks and researches what to do instead of being hasty and jumping into it. In spite of that she doesn't
[01:53] <Ai-n> give off a detached or aloof feeling, mainly because of her connection Olivia, although if she sees enough practice as a spirit girl she may go down a slippery slope of being more jaded (because getting rid of zombies is just a job). I wouldn't say she seems naive, but that she hasn't faced many life threatening challenges. If she has, then in fact she has a positive outlook
[01:53] <Ai-n> And for what it's worth I think you nail writing a teen-something girl in third person voice heh