cZ XULrunner

so i'm contemplating using a "standalone cZ"

running "SeaMonkey cZ" is costless in terms of memory usage & opening speed, but if
SeaMonkey crashes, or if you need to restart SeaMonkey, so goes cZ.


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i find, cZ on XULrunner, http://chatzilla.rdmsoft.com/xulrunner/

says download:  XULrunner runtime,  & cZ-xr,  & go

i dislike the idea that even though i'm running "mozilla", i have to install another
"mozilla" (the xr runtime) in order to do this

regardless, i try it & figure it looks like it's OK, & i can even run it sandboxed
(SANDBOXIE) & that will kind of keep this xr runtime, something i don't particularly want,
separate from everything else

looking further i see, https://developer.mozilla.org/en/XULRunner

& it says:

> Firefox 3 and later ships with a private XULRunner package, which can
> run any compatible XULRunner application using the -app switch.

hmmm
that so, since i have FF (even if i don't run it), then no need for xr runtime ?


https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Command_Line_Options says:

> XULRunner
>    -app /path/to/application.ini
> Start a new process running the XULRunner application at path/to.
> Firefox only, version 3 and above


so i take cZ-xr, http://chatzilla.rdmsoft.com/xulrunner/download/chatzilla-0.9.86-xr.zip,
extract its contents & i see an 'application.ini'


> firefox.exe -app C:\WLIB\Mozilla\cZ\application.ini


that was easy
WORKS :-)

works with FF30-FF35-FF36


appears seamonkey.exe does not support an -app command line option ?

any benefit to using one version of FF over the other ?
FF30 uses less memory then FF35, & definitely less then FF36

suppose i'd want to use -no-remote too, in case i had a reason to open FF, an actual
browser window itself ?

any benefit to using -private (FF36 only) ?  (i have no idea what -private does &
looks like it only applies to -browser, which i'm not effectively running?)

-safe-mode too ?


> firefox30.exe -app C:\WLIB\Mozilla\cZ\application.ini -no-remote -safe-mode


in this manner FF uses about 40/24 MB ram

does firefox.exe -app need -no-remote ?  appears not, as it looks like even though you are
running "firefox" it ends up being a separate process, & perhaps not even related to a or
any Profile ?  so it is just a built-in XUL runtime, for conveniences sake, if you will ?


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all that said ...

> seamonkey.exe -chat -no-remote irc://irc.mozilla.org/seamonkey

SM21 mem 45/24 -> jumping to 55/23
 - does not bring up any "/attach" or "/join" unless specified on command line - BUG ?
 - heh.  silly me.  needs to remember that bug 'therube' filed on cZ!
SM20 mem 42/26, constant & *does* bring up *client* ...
SM11 mem 29/16 -> jumping to 36/21 (sm 1.1.19)
MZ17 mem 32/20 (mozilla 1.7.13)
- icons & nicks look decidedly better in MZ17 aka cZ 0.9.61 - text, a toss-up

downside, it "uses" an actual Profile that i may actually want to use, but suppose i
could set up a separate Profile solely for cZ, so:

> seamonkey.exe -chat -no-remote -P CZ

other downside (depending on how you look at it) is that it will open links in Profile
CZ, rather then in what otherwise would be the default Profile that you already have
open & running


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... now whay was i doing this ;-) ?


& if i went with a 3rd-party ...
don't really gain anything ? would have to learn ? configure to what i'm comfortable
with, cZ ?  gain/loose memory usage (seem to recall same or more) ?  another foreign
app i have to deal with ?