[00:55] <Suhana> justin:lol
[00:55] <saint-lucifer> alright, hold on
[00:55] <kevr> lmao
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[00:55] <ikey_afk> Close enough..
[00:55] <McJager> I don't know what's so offensive about my old one
[00:55] <Suhana> Lucifers were matches... Saint is.. well saintly :D
[00:55] * Suhana hides
[00:55] <ikey_afk> McJager: did I say it was offensive?
[00:56] <ikey_afk> People have joined under the name "jesus" before and I've asked them the same thing
[00:56] <McJager> no but I can only assume it was since you told me not to have it
[00:57] <McJager> plus I log into here with whatever name I give myself for the computer which means every time I log in here I have to go /nick "insert name here" just b/c you don't like it
[00:57] <hack> How long are we going to be in suspense?
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[00:57] <ikey_afk> McJager: I asked you politely and now you're giving me attitude?
[00:57] <hack> C'mon, what's the reason if not offense?
[00:57] <oem> hi
[00:58] <McJager> I changed it for you, it's not like I straight-up ignored oyu
[00:58] <hack> mcjager:  ikey's an OP.  Just keep that in mind.
[00:58] <ikey_afk> hack: For the same reason if someone joins under the name "god" or "jesus". Inappropriate and generates a big-fuss like we're having now
[00:58] <hack> Are we allowed non-Abrahamic deities?
[00:58] <McJager> what fuss? the only fuss is that you made me changed it.
[00:58] <hack> Can I be Cthulhu?
[00:58] <overmacht> WE BELIEVE IN GOD HERE
[00:58] <ikey_afk> ...
[00:58] <kevr> McJager > argumentative, lol, it's religion based. a lot of people hate on other religions
[00:58] <ikey_afk> I'm tiring of this conversation.
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[00:58] <oem> how it go
[00:59] <McJager> Satanism technically isn't a religion, I see it as a Philosophy anyway since it's derived from Atheism.
[00:59] <ikey_afk> McJager: This is a support channel
[00:59] <justin> yo, we're all in here for help guys.
[00:59] <ikey_afk> Keep offtopic chat to #pimpmymint and chatting to #linuxmint-chat
[00:59] <justin> keep it cool, don't get out of hand
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[00:59] <McJager> I asked a question earlier ikey, still waiting for someone to answer it
[00:59] <hack> Let's take the hilarious religious nickname discussion to the chat channel, shall we?
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[00:59] <hack> It's cluttering Help up.
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[01:00] <McJager> aye hack, I'm moving now
[01:00] <kevr> McJager > yes it is, it involves believing in a religion that involves a satan character
[01:00] <ikey_afk> ...
[01:00] <kevr> McJager > as he said, if you were named Jesus
[01:00] <kevr> same
[01:00] <ikey_afk> End.
[01:00] <ikey_afk> Thank you.
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[01:00] <ikey_afk> What was the question anyway?
[01:00] <ikey_afk> The computer-related one
[01:00] <Suhana> Well PHP.5.3.2 + Apache 2.2.15 (source installs) runs rather sweetly, although I wouldn't recommend running them under Mint on a production server.
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[01:01] <McJager> ANYWAY, back to my computer related question that was ignored
[01:01] <McJager> I want to install Ubuntu Satanic Edition onto Mint 8 Xfce, will it work?
[01:01] <ikey_afk> You cannot install a distro within a distro
[01:01] <ikey_afk> If you mean add the packages, possibly
[01:01] <ikey_afk> afaik the USE uses gnome
[01:02] <McJager> It's not an actual distro, it's a theme pack/package for GNOME but it's built for Ubuntu. I noticed the splash screens and stuff didn't all show on Xubuntu so I figured I'd ask
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[01:03] <Suhana> Power up a quick VM and try it?
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[01:03] <ikey_afk> You need to add the PPA
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[01:03] <McJager> I can't VM since I have a crappy computer
[01:03] <Suhana> ah
[01:03] <ikey_afk> Or use the LiveCD
[01:03] <ikey_afk> it is actually a distro. btw.
[01:03] <McJager> is it a distro?
[01:03] <ikey_afk> yes
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[01:04] <justin> yeah
[01:04] <McJager> I thought it was theme only
[01:04] <ikey_afk> the have a livecd
[01:04] <ikey_afk> alternatively you can add the ppa and "customise" your existing install
[01:04] <ikey_afk> from what i remember it uses gnome by default
[01:04] <ikey_afk> so you'd end up with gnome and xfce alongside
[01:04] <ikey_afk> which is just bloated tbh
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[01:04] <McJager> really?
[01:05] <ikey_afk> yeah
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[01:06] <derek> Hey, I sometimes get random freezes where I can't do anything, I tried reverting to the Jaunty Intel video drivers, and even using Linux Mint Gloria (which is from Jaunty), but still nothing. It sometimes happens when I'm AFK and the monitor doesn't "wake up", and the rest are random.
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[01:08] <xerei> hey
[01:09] <xerei> Linux Mint is awesome
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[01:09] <xerei> I'm downloading emulator, antivirus, games and everything, this is AWESOME.
[01:09] <xerei> sorry for caps, but needed to get my paint.
[01:09] <xerei> poit*
[01:09] <xerei> point*
[01:09] <E-WolfShade> Do you really need to install an antivirus?
[01:09] <Suhana> derek:Have you run *nix for any decent period of time without crashing with your current hardware before?
[01:09] <xerei> I love these window effects.
[01:10] <xerei> no, its not like I HAVE TO
[01:10] <xerei> but i do it..just for the extra sceurity
[01:10] <xerei> i cant wait to try these games out.
[01:10] <xerei> with linux it gotta be so little lag.
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[01:10] <j> hello
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[01:11] <saint-lucifer_> hold on, gonna change nick
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[01:11] <xerei> This linux is just AWESOME.
[01:11] <xerei> Hey, when does the 9th version come out?
[01:11] <j> why does dpkg keep messing up? says dpkg was interrupted
[01:11] <derek> @Suhana: No.
[01:11]  j jackson Jari0001 jeffszusz jezlee Joe justin
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[01:11] <McJager> when ubuntu 10 does
[01:11] <ikey_afk> j: im guessing that an installation was interrupted
[01:11] <xerei> ok.
[01:11] <xerei> when is that?
[01:11] <McJager> idk, go to the ubuntu site
[01:11] <kevr> j > Should run it from root
[01:11] <derek> November I think
[01:11] <ikey_afk> in which case, type the following into the terminal: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[01:11] <ikey_afk> As the prompt says
[01:12] <xerei> Cool
[01:12] <McJager> Mint is based on Ubuntu so when a new Ubuntu comes out they make a Mint version
[01:12] <xerei> whats new in the 9th release?
[01:12] <ikey_afk> Mint 9 will be out in around May time
[01:12] <xerei> the same as in ubuntu?
[01:12] <McJager> it's not out yet xerei
[01:12] <ikey_afk> As Lucid 10.04 is out next month
[01:12] <xerei> cool!
[01:12] <xerei> seriously, how long did it take to make this linux?
[01:12] <ikey_afk> So in May you'll have Mint 9
[01:12] <xerei> the window effects, the fancy stuff
[01:12] <xerei> must have taken years
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[01:12] <justin> about 18 years or so.
[01:12] <justin> xD
[01:12] <ikey_afk> lol
[01:12] <McJager> lol
[01:12] <xerei> wow
[01:12] * Suhana coughs
[01:13] <justin> okay not really.
[01:13] <ikey_afk> Linux is only the core-part xerei
[01:13] <ikey_afk> The kernel
[01:13] <ikey_afk> Then you have the gnu tools + toolchain
[01:13] <McJager> it doesn't take terribly long to make a linux distro based on the other, just reskin and make a respritory.
[01:13] <ikey_afk> Then you got X (display)
[01:13] <ikey_afk> Then gnome desktop (etc)
[01:13] <justin> each 6 months the state is advanced based upon the previous versions
[01:13] <xerei> sounds cool
[01:13] <justin> which makes a quick turnaround time from existing codebases.
[01:14] <McJager> anyway, the new xfce ce rc is crashing a lot
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[01:14] <xerei> i got a question..
[01:14] <ikey_afk> It's a release candidate.
[01:14] <xerei> wht makes linux mint 1 of the top 10?
[01:14] <McJager> I'm thinking it's more of a weight problem then a bug issue
[01:14] <ikey_afk> McJager: check the mint forums
[01:14] <ikey_afk> There is a bug thread
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[01:14] <derek> Hey Sahuna did you get my response?
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[01:14] <McJager> I don't think it's an RC bug and I knew what an RC was already, thank you
[01:14] <xerei> is it the effects and the ease of use that makes mint top 10?
[01:14] <Suhana> derek:mm yes - just watching the convo in multiple channels
[01:15] <ikey_afk> McJager: I'm only trying to help - you do not need to be so rude.
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[01:15] <derek> O I try to keep my "help" in the Help channel but you know how it is :P
[01:15] <McJager> I'm not being rude I just don't like getting my intelligence questioned. I didn't use caps or an exclamation point.
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[01:16] <xerei> has any1 here used linux all their life?
[01:16] <ikey_afk> I wasn't questioning your intelligence McJager but I tell you now you're testing mine and others patience
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[01:17] <xerei> no1 used windows all their life
[01:17] <xerei> linux*
[01:17] <xerei> sorry
[01:17] <McJager> You know what, I'll refer all my questions somewhere else, I think a bit of bias might be involved in how you treat me. Good day sir.
[01:18] <ikey_afk> Oh so now I'm biased?
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