[DD:MM:YY:16:39:07] <@Nykimu> ok Dimitrix
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[DD:MM:YY:16:39:35] <@Nykimu> SE offered a 2v1 with us this weekend, but after last time TKO were mad because we went with SE and they wanted to go with us
[DD:MM:YY:16:39:39] <Jelle> qh there ze go
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[DD:MM:YY:16:39:50] <@Jelle> dotdotdot keyboqrd turned to qwerty qgqin
[DD:MM:YY:16:39:57] <@Jelle> just q second
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[DD:MM:YY:16:40:00] <@Dimitrix> against who
[DD:MM:YY:16:40:04] <@Dimitrix> and wgen
[DD:MM:YY:16:40:06] <@Nykimu> so i asked TKO this time and they said they were up for it
[DD:MM:YY:16:40:08] <@Nykimu> saturday
[DD:MM:YY:16:40:08] <@Dimitrix> when
[DD:MM:YY:16:40:16] <@Nykimu> and SE said DF/RSD were possibilities
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[DD:MM:YY:16:40:28] <@Nykimu> so who do you wanna go with? last time people think SE lost us the war
[DD:MM:YY:16:40:35] <@Dimitrix> how much lpt pulls nowadays?
[DD:MM:YY:16:40:38] <@Nykimu> but they asked first this time
[DD:MM:YY:16:40:51] <@Nykimu> lpt aren't an option atm
[DD:MM:YY:16:40:57] <@Dimitrix> why so
[DD:MM:YY:16:40:58] -Khalid2ka- tko or se, not lpt
[DD:MM:YY:16:41:08] <@Nykimu> we can hardly ask TKO and say wait to SE then say fuck you both, we're going with lpt
[DD:MM:YY:16:41:28] <@Dimitrix> yes we can if rsd/df comes to gmt and pt can pull 30 or so
[DD:MM:YY:16:41:36] <@Dimitrix> lpt*
[DD:MM:YY:16:41:42] <@Nykimu> SE and TKO can go GMT times
[DD:MM:YY:16:42:01] <@Dimitrix> the thing is
[DD:MM:YY:16:42:05] <@Dimitrix> both give crap attitude
[DD:MM:YY:16:42:09] <@Dimitrix> se's is a bit better than tko's
[DD:MM:YY:16:42:16] <@Dimitrix> but lpt's attitude is the best
[DD:MM:YY:16:42:24] <@Nykimu> really?
[DD:MM:YY:16:42:30] <@Nykimu> do you not remember tag in the 2v2
[DD:MM:YY:16:43:32] <@Dimitrix> one person or whole clan/team
[DD:MM:YY:16:43:35] <@Dimitrix> that is the question
[DD:MM:YY:16:43:53] <@Nykimu> one leader who influences the whole team
[DD:MM:YY:16:44:18] <@Dimitrix> if you ask from me
[DD:MM:YY:16:44:25] <@Dimitrix> teamwork with lpt was simply much better
[DD:MM:YY:16:44:35] <@Dimitrix> not that they are better than se or tko alone
[DD:MM:YY:16:44:36] <@Nykimu> if you are not voting on it, just saying LPT, then you are the one to speak with se/tko and say no
[DD:MM:YY:16:44:40] <@Dimitrix> but working with them is better
[DD:MM:YY:16:44:45] <@Ilusion_Paw> we never paired with tko before
[DD:MM:YY:16:44:50] * Nykimu sets mode: +o Khalid2ka
[DD:MM:YY:16:44:55] <@Dimitrix> we know tko's attitude
[DD:MM:YY:16:45:14] <@Dimitrix> even har has tried his best to avoid teamwork with them
[DD:MM:YY:16:45:19] <@Dimitrix> while he's been there himself
[DD:MM:YY:16:45:27] <@Ilusion_Paw> hm
[DD:MM:YY:16:45:36] <@Nykimu> but after SE his attitude toward teaming with tko changed alot
[DD:MM:YY:16:46:21] <@Dimitrix> le tme first see lpt's pulls
[DD:MM:YY:16:46:25] <@Dimitrix> let me*
[DD:MM:YY:16:46:38] <@Dimitrix> i have no problem of telling tko and se to piss off
[DD:MM:YY:16:46:44] <@Nykimu> the whole reason i made this was to try and vote on it
[DD:MM:YY:16:46:53] <@Dimitrix> no such thing as a vote
[DD:MM:YY:16:47:08] <@Nykimu> and honestly i think you need to open up a bit, i joined SE recently
[DD:MM:YY:16:47:14] <@Nykimu> their attitude isn't bad
[DD:MM:YY:16:47:23] -Khalid2ka- do a vote on it lol id prefer se or tko
[DD:MM:YY:16:47:24] <@Nykimu> they aren't the best leaders either
[DD:MM:YY:16:48:00] <@Nykimu> and tko i don't know, we share a lot of members and it just seems to be the leadership there
[DD:MM:YY:16:48:16] <@Nykimu> as as you say, the whole clan or team or one person
[DD:MM:YY:16:48:25] <@Dimitrix> <Dimitrix> how many does lpt pull nowadays?
[DD:MM:YY:16:48:25] <@Ilusion_Paw> SE pulled 69 yesterday Dimitrix
[DD:MM:YY:16:48:25] <@Dimitrix> <Tag_> From 15 to 25.
[DD:MM:YY:16:48:45] <@Dimitrix> 45-55 during gmt time for our side with lpt
[DD:MM:YY:16:48:56] <@Khalid2ka> im se advisor and can say se's attitude is good
[DD:MM:YY:16:48:57] <@Nykimu> Dimitrix scroll up and read what was said before we go further
[DD:MM:YY:16:49:01] <@Dimitrix> df probably would match that estimate quite well
[DD:MM:YY:16:49:14] <@Nykimu> lol df pull 50 non mand to matched ops
[DD:MM:YY:16:49:20] <@Ilusion_Paw> se and tko were the ones asking tho :x
[DD:MM:YY:16:49:21] <@Dimitrix> gmt time
[DD:MM:YY:16:49:51] <@Nykimu> 8 is GMT time
[DD:MM:YY:16:51:20] <@Nykimu> and we don't pull 40
[DD:MM:YY:16:51:39] <@Nykimu> so with them pulling 15-25 it could be between 40 and 50
[DD:MM:YY:16:51:44] <@Dimitrix> ok, so khalid check from df and rsd whether they could do early gmt fight, weekday or weekend
[DD:MM:YY:16:52:01] <@Nykimu> no dont, not until we know who we're going with
[DD:MM:YY:16:52:11] <@Dimitrix> based on their answer
[DD:MM:YY:16:52:14] <@Nykimu> CE doesn't negotiate the fight for 2 teams
[DD:MM:YY:16:52:32] <@Dimitrix> if we dont negotiate
[DD:MM:YY:16:52:42] <@Dimitrix> i suggest se and tko do a paired fight with rsd/df
[DD:MM:YY:16:52:57] <@Dimitrix> we will be the ones setting it up
[DD:MM:YY:16:53:04] <@Dimitrix> we hold the control over it
[DD:MM:YY:16:53:11] <@Nykimu> lol
[DD:MM:YY:16:53:12] <@Dimitrix> that way we know it wont be messed up
[DD:MM:YY:16:53:28] <@Nykimu> you can have more than 2 people talking at once in IRC you know
[DD:MM:YY:16:53:42] <@Dimitrix> so, khalid
[DD:MM:YY:16:53:45] <@Dimitrix> what i said
[DD:MM:YY:16:54:02] <@Dimitrix> go to rsd/df and just check if they would be interested early gmt 2vs1 fight
[DD:MM:YY:16:54:11] <@Dimitrix> tell them we dont have a pair yet
[DD:MM:YY:16:54:21] <@Dimitrix> just checking whether they would be interested or not
[DD:MM:YY:16:54:26] <@Nykimu> this is TKO time: [16:54:11] <Fasty> probably anywhere between 2 and 4 PM EST
[DD:MM:YY:16:54:36] <@Nykimu> 2pm est = 6gmt atm
[DD:MM:YY:16:55:00] <@Khalid2ka> kk
[DD:MM:YY:16:55:03] <@Nykimu> 2pm = 7est sorry
[DD:MM:YY:16:55:05] <@Dimitrix> and based on what timeframe they give us
[DD:MM:YY:16:55:14] <@Nykimu> 2est = 7gmt* fucking hell lol
[DD:MM:YY:16:55:29] <@Dimitrix> we decide who would be optional pairs
[DD:MM:YY:16:55:32] <@Dimitrix> lpt is primary
[DD:MM:YY:16:55:41] <@Dimitrix> considering the future tournament 2vs2 fights
[DD:MM:YY:16:55:51] <@Nykimu> and this is why we don't have #ceranks channel
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[DD:MM:YY:16:59:18] <V`> ey
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[DD:MM:YY:16:59:40] <@Nykimu> hey
[DD:MM:YY:16:59:51] <@Nykimu> so basically the vote is for TKO, but dimi wants lpt
[DD:MM:YY:17:00:00] <@V`> to be honest
[DD:MM:YY:17:00:05] <@V`> LPT can't pull enough to compete in 2v1
[DD:MM:YY:17:00:09] <@V`> last PKRI they pulled 69 opts
[DD:MM:YY:17:00:13] <@Nykimu> oh thank you
[DD:MM:YY:17:00:17] <@Dimitrix> if it's early enough gmt
[DD:MM:YY:17:00:24] <@Dimitrix> it will be close enough
[DD:MM:YY:17:00:33] <@Nykimu> wait V` you already set one up?
[DD:MM:YY:17:00:37] <@V`> ?
[DD:MM:YY:17:00:41] <@V`> Nykimu no
[DD:MM:YY:17:00:44] <@V`> I didn't
[DD:MM:YY:17:00:54] <@Khalid2ka> (17:00:12) <Icedrop> yeh i think we could be interested
[DD:MM:YY:17:01:03] <@Nykimu> what do you mean in PM then
[DD:MM:YY:17:01:05] <@V`> RSD?
[DD:MM:YY:17:01:08] <@Dimitrix> timeframe?
[DD:MM:YY:17:01:19] <@Khalid2ka> 2est early gmt
[DD:MM:YY:17:01:20] <@V`> Nykimu that what I said is about last 2v1
[DD:MM:YY:17:01:22] <@V`> we did set up
[DD:MM:YY:17:01:23] <@Khalid2ka> around that time
[DD:MM:YY:17:01:30] <@Dimitrix> so 7 pm gmt?
[DD:MM:YY:17:01:34] <@V`> 2est/7gmt
[DD:MM:YY:17:01:35] <@Nykimu> o right
[DD:MM:YY:17:01:36] <@V`> 3/8
[DD:MM:YY:17:01:38] <@Khalid2ka> ya
[DD:MM:YY:17:01:57] <@Khalid2ka> have to talk to pk lead to set up with tho
[DD:MM:YY:17:02:27] <@Dimitrix> ok, get in contact with lpt official and check what is the optimal time for them
[DD:MM:YY:17:02:41] <@Nykimu> Khalid2ka tko said they can do that time, since they told me 7-9gmt
[DD:MM:YY:17:02:52] <@Dimitrix> tko is a no
[DD:MM:YY:17:02:54] <@Nykimu> but SE said they want 8:30GMT onwards
[DD:MM:YY:17:02:58] <@Dimitrix> lpt > se > tko
[DD:MM:YY:17:03:05] <@Dimitrix> that's the preference order
[DD:MM:YY:17:03:07] <@V`> LPt can't pull enough if we're fighting RSD lol
[DD:MM:YY:17:03:19] <@V`> CE pulls ~30, LPT 25 and RSD 80
[DD:MM:YY:17:03:23] <@V`> summs everything
[DD:MM:YY:17:03:42] <@Nykimu> Dimitrix you want to recruit atm and we could do with a nice win
[DD:MM:YY:17:03:55] <@Dimitrix> recruit from where? tko?
[DD:MM:YY:17:03:59] <@Nykimu> RSC
[DD:MM:YY:17:04:11] <@Nykimu> you know lpt won't pull enough, and our last one with SE was close
[DD:MM:YY:17:04:21] <@Dimitrix> we get zero recoqnition from fighting with tko and winning
[DD:MM:YY:17:04:24] <@Dimitrix> but if we lose
[DD:MM:YY:17:04:32] <@Nykimu> how so?
[DD:MM:YY:17:04:34] <@Dimitrix> you can rest assured that tko will whine it was ce's fault
[DD:MM:YY:17:04:40] <@Dimitrix> besides
[DD:MM:YY:17:04:40] <@V`> eh?
[DD:MM:YY:17:04:45] <@V`> TKO won't say it was CE's faultl ol
[DD:MM:YY:17:04:47] <@V`> fault*
[DD:MM:YY:17:04:49] <@Dimitrix> rsd is a big member base for tko
[DD:MM:YY:17:04:55] <@Dimitrix> their pull would be much lower when fighting rsd
[DD:MM:YY:17:05:00] <@V`> ..?
[DD:MM:YY:17:05:04] <@V`> Tko has 3 rsd members?
[DD:MM:YY:17:05:14] <@Dimitrix> last time i looked it was far more
[DD:MM:YY:17:05:22] <@V`> 3 of them left and one kicked
[DD:MM:YY:17:05:26] <@Dimitrix> i've given you the framework to work with
[DD:MM:YY:17:05:35] <@Nykimu> dimi stop judging on 1 time experiences or ideas
[DD:MM:YY:17:05:49] <@Nykimu> you do the same everytime someone challenges you, like glenn, and then start to shut out anything
[DD:MM:YY:17:06:17] <@Dimitrix> i am trying to save us from a fucking hassle with tko
[DD:MM:YY:17:07:08] <@Nykimu> but you said yourself, the one man or the whole team
[DD:MM:YY:17:07:08] <@Dimitrix> whether we win or lose
[DD:MM:YY:17:07:19] <@V`> their attitude is bad cause none of clans out there except Rot can't beat them in matched, they're far better than anyone there lol
[DD:MM:YY:17:07:20] <@Nykimu> why? TKO is respected
[DD:MM:YY:17:07:24] <@Dimitrix> we have freaking good experiences from lpt
[DD:MM:YY:17:07:37] <@Dimitrix> even if we lose with them
[DD:MM:YY:17:07:45] <@Dimitrix> it's not that bad
[DD:MM:YY:17:07:51] <@Nykimu> LPT was just a quiet team to go with, solid but not brilliant members
[DD:MM:YY:17:07:54] <@V`> I'd rather take win with TKO than lose with LPT
[DD:MM:YY:17:07:55] <@Dimitrix> and if we win with them
[DD:MM:YY:17:08:01] <@Nykimu> so whne CE + LPT win - yay we take all the credit
[DD:MM:YY:17:08:05] <@Dimitrix> we will give a good shakedown
[DD:MM:YY:17:08:26] <@Dimitrix> exactly nykimu
[DD:MM:YY:17:08:37] <@Dimitrix> if u want recoqnition
[DD:MM:YY:17:08:42] <@Dimitrix> you do it with lpt
[DD:MM:YY:17:08:53] <@Nykimu> yes but they can't pull enough dimitrix
[DD:MM:YY:17:08:56] <@Dimitrix> they dont even compete for the same possible applicants as tko and se does
[DD:MM:YY:17:09:09] <@Dimitrix> if we win with tko or se
[DD:MM:YY:17:09:13] <@Dimitrix> and u think that attracts ppl
[DD:MM:YY:17:09:18] <@Dimitrix> they stil have 2 choices
[DD:MM:YY:17:09:22] <@Dimitrix> ce or se/tko
[DD:MM:YY:17:09:23] <@Nykimu> well winning with  LPT hardly did
[DD:MM:YY:17:09:30] <@Dimitrix> but only lithos have two choices
[DD:MM:YY:17:09:38] <@Nykimu> we just got some lpt members
[DD:MM:YY:17:09:52] <@Dimitrix> this is not an issue for arguing
[DD:MM:YY:17:10:01] <@Dimitrix> khalid, work it through with lpt
[DD:MM:YY:17:10:09] <@Dimitrix> and nykimu shuts it
[DD:MM:YY:17:10:15] <@Dimitrix> or i will shut you
[DD:MM:YY:17:10:49] <@Nykimu> lol
[DD:MM:YY:17:11:06] <@Khalid2ka> talkin to pk lead atm
[DD:MM:YY:17:11:11] <@Dimitrix> ok, good
[DD:MM:YY:17:11:16] <@Nykimu> by shut you mean kick and close this channel because we can talk, whereas on forums it's easier for you to post and ignore
[DD:MM:YY:17:11:51] <@Dimitrix> i mean i will put you to retired on ce as i did with har
[DD:MM:YY:17:12:02] <@V`> to be honest, I don't like at the idea teaming with LPT, I'd rather to do not a 2v1 than take a embrasement loss from getting demolished by RSD. Its not my choise thuogh
[DD:MM:YY:17:12:03] <@Dimitrix> final call
[DD:MM:YY:17:12:13] <@Dimitrix> to avoid situations like these
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[DD:MM:YY:17:12:29] <@Dimitrix> you dont respect the final call
[DD:MM:YY:17:12:32] <@Dimitrix> then get out
[DD:MM:YY:17:12:45] <@Nykimu> because you're not listening to reason
[DD:MM:YY:17:12:48] <@V`> and final call is that we're teaming with LPT, no choises of another partners?
[DD:MM:YY:17:12:49] <@Dimitrix> i saw enough politics an arguing between leaders in jags
[DD:MM:YY:17:12:59] <@Nykimu> you have 1 opinion based on old facts and then you go with that for as long as you can
[DD:MM:YY:17:13:10] <@Dimitrix> exactly
[DD:MM:YY:17:13:22] <@Nykimu> and what if those facts no longer apply?
[DD:MM:YY:17:13:32] <@Dimitrix> people dont change
[DD:MM:YY:17:13:33] <@Nykimu> like LPT can pull enough? or TKO has a shit attitude?
[DD:MM:YY:17:13:38] <@Nykimu> really? what about har
[DD:MM:YY:17:13:45] <@Dimitrix> and that makes it very common that clans dont change
[DD:MM:YY:17:13:48] <@Nykimu> didn't he start out as your little slave and then you lost him
[DD:MM:YY:17:13:55] <@Nykimu> i'd say he changed over the years
[DD:MM:YY:17:14:01] <@Dimitrix> yea
[DD:MM:YY:17:14:02] <@Dimitrix> he did
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[DD:MM:YY:17:14:09] <@Dimitrix> after he joined se/tko etc
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[DD:MM:YY:17:14:14] <@Dimitrix> got the influence from there
[DD:MM:YY:17:14:18] <@Nykimu> so people change
[DD:MM:YY:17:14:19] <@Dimitrix> got more and more cocky
[DD:MM:YY:17:14:24] <Ilusion_Paw> +1 V`, just dced!
[DD:MM:YY:17:14:31] <@Dimitrix> just as you are getting now nykimu
[DD:MM:YY:17:14:35] <@Nykimu> people do change, just don't keep on basing things on old things
[DD:MM:YY:17:14:37] <@V`> I'm TKO and also been SE, guess I haven't turned out so cocky yet
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[DD:MM:YY:17:14:42] * V` sets mode: +o Ilusion_Paw
[DD:MM:YY:17:14:56] <@Nykimu> maybe, or maybe i'm open to suggestions and i interact with the clan world
[DD:MM:YY:17:14:59] <@Ilusion_Paw> SE are not cocky
[DD:MM:YY:17:15:10] <@Dimitrix> i agree that se are not as bad as tko
[DD:MM:YY:17:15:12] <@Nykimu> not clam up and stick with a safe option
[DD:MM:YY:17:15:18] <@Dimitrix> actually far less
[DD:MM:YY:17:15:27] <@Dimitrix> but still between lpt and se
[DD:MM:YY:17:15:33] <@Dimitrix> lpt is friendlier to work with
[DD:MM:YY:17:15:58] <@Dimitrix> you're the one going for a safe option
[DD:MM:YY:17:16:02] <@Nykimu> alot of our members are in SE, and have friends in SE, and I like SE's leadership
[DD:MM:YY:17:16:05] <@Dimitrix> "we will win with tko"
[DD:MM:YY:17:16:21] <@Nykimu> yes but isn't it more of a risk that we won't get recognition?
[DD:MM:YY:17:16:33] <@Nykimu> you're the one playing safe with LPT where you think we get 99% of recognition for wins
[DD:MM:YY:17:16:45] <@Dimitrix> two views
[DD:MM:YY:17:16:47] <@V`> Well, I'm not setting it up, not really want to be the one who gets all the fault by setting up with LPT and get huge loss, or then setting it fight with SE and get blamed by TKO bros/getting all the fault by setting it and hearing all the cries about "SE lost it to us, cause they stood out"
[DD:MM:YY:17:16:52] <@Dimitrix> two opinions
[DD:MM:YY:17:16:56] <@Dimitrix> and in this case
[DD:MM:YY:17:17:00] <@Dimitrix> yours is not going any further
[DD:MM:YY:17:17:21] <@Nykimu> so what happens?
[DD:MM:YY:17:17:26] <@Dimitrix> khalid is setting it
[DD:MM:YY:17:17:36] <@Dimitrix> based on my instructions
[DD:MM:YY:17:17:52] <@Nykimu> and what about the two teams we have to say no to?
[DD:MM:YY:17:17:54] <@Nykimu> you do it
[DD:MM:YY:17:18:03] <@Dimitrix> imagine if we had to go through all this same stuff for every single war we would set
[DD:MM:YY:17:18:15] <@Dimitrix> yea i can do it
[DD:MM:YY:17:18:18] <@Nykimu> ok
[DD:MM:YY:17:19:25] <@Nykimu> and what will you say? "it's off, i don't trust my leadership to get wars. even though you approached us and we can trust your performance, it's a no because i personally dislike you"
[DD:MM:YY:17:20:12] <@Dimitrix> ok
[DD:MM:YY:17:20:16] <@Dimitrix> noticed fasty
[DD:MM:YY:17:20:28] <@Dimitrix> and it's clear
[DD:MM:YY:17:20:46] <@Nykimu> copy what you said then
[DD:MM:YY:17:20:57] <@Dimitrix> <Fasty> hey
[DD:MM:YY:17:20:57] <@Dimitrix> <Dimitrix> you spoke with nykimu about the 2vs1?
[DD:MM:YY:17:20:57] <@Dimitrix> <Fasty> yeah
[DD:MM:YY:17:20:57] <@Dimitrix> <Dimitrix> ok
[DD:MM:YY:17:20:57] <@Dimitrix> <Dimitrix> nykimu wasn't up to date about my plans for our next paired fight...
[DD:MM:YY:17:20:57] <@Dimitrix> <Dimitrix> since lpt teamed with us in the last cj tournament
[DD:MM:YY:17:20:57] <@Dimitrix> <Dimitrix> we want to refresh that relationship with them
[DD:MM:YY:17:21:03] <@Dimitrix> <Fasty> that's fine :P
[DD:MM:YY:17:21:03] <@Dimitrix> <Dimitrix> so we're first gonna check what lpt says about those plans
[DD:MM:YY:17:21:03] <@Dimitrix> <Dimitrix> yea, ok
[DD:MM:YY:17:21:03] <@Dimitrix> <Fasty> just pm me/anyone from TKO if CE wants to team with us, we don't really care either way
[DD:MM:YY:17:21:03] <@Dimitrix> <Fasty> we'd just like some notice
[DD:MM:YY:17:21:03] <@Dimitrix> <Dimitrix> yea, will do
[DD:MM:YY:17:21:26] <@Nykimu> o right just tell them 10% of it nice
[DD:MM:YY:17:21:28] <@V`> we're not fighting TKO as you said so not sure why you said you're noticing him
[DD:MM:YY:17:21:48] <@Dimitrix> what, you told se that we were fucking pissed off about their performance?
[DD:MM:YY:17:21:55] <@Dimitrix> nykimu, please go tell that to se
[DD:MM:YY:17:22:01] <@Dimitrix> and see how it goes
[DD:MM:YY:17:22:03] <@V`> I can do it if its a problem
[DD:MM:YY:17:22:12] <@Nykimu> i think they know it
[DD:MM:YY:17:22:21] <@V`> I've spoken to superkev360 alreayd about it fight
[DD:MM:YY:17:22:24] <@Nykimu> but the thing is they want to prove  themselves again
[DD:MM:YY:17:22:30] <@Nykimu> that's good attitude if i see one
[DD:MM:YY:17:22:40] <@Dimitrix> good, very good attitude and i respect that attitude from them
[DD:MM:YY:17:22:45] <@V`> yeah to be honest this discussion is going nowhere
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[DD:MM:YY:17:23:00] <@Dimitrix> that's why if it wont work out with pt
[DD:MM:YY:17:23:01] <@Dimitrix> lpt*
[DD:MM:YY:17:23:04] <@Dimitrix> we will do it with se
[DD:MM:YY:17:23:17] <@Nykimu> please
[DD:MM:YY:17:23:49] <@Nykimu> explain to me how we're not seen as more arrogant as TKO when we have teams waiting on our word to fight, and they KNOW we;d rather not go with them because we might do better with lpt
[DD:MM:YY:17:24:06] <@Dimitrix> most likely
[DD:MM:YY:17:24:11] <@Dimitrix> we will do much worse with lpt
[DD:MM:YY:17:24:15] <@Dimitrix> cos their pull is lower
[DD:MM:YY:17:24:31] <@Dimitrix> jesus christ
[DD:MM:YY:17:24:40] <@Dimitrix> you keep telling me to pay attention to what i say
[DD:MM:YY:17:24:47] <@Dimitrix> and pay attention at zero level to mine
[DD:MM:YY:17:24:53] <@Dimitrix> fuck you nykimu
[DD:MM:YY:17:24:55] <@Nykimu> so why lpt? surely we can do other wars with lpt
[DD:MM:YY:17:25:07] <@Nykimu> since in the cj it's gonna be 40v40, and this is a run in at more like 80v80
[DD:MM:YY:17:25:29] <@Nykimu> just because we got with SE for this war, doesn't mean we can't do a 40v40 with lpt next weekend
[DD:MM:YY:17:25:48] <@Dimitrix> we can't keep doing paired fights all the time
[DD:MM:YY:17:25:55] <@Dimitrix> and if u do paired fights
[DD:MM:YY:17:26:04] <@Dimitrix> it's best to have same ppl as often as possible
[DD:MM:YY:17:26:19] <@Nykimu> and Dimitrix i do listen to what you say, "because we might do better with lpt" that means we will do better from it (get more recognition from a win)
[DD:MM:YY:17:26:26] <@Nykimu> i just dont agree with you here
[DD:MM:YY:17:26:36] <@Dimitrix> yea i am aware that u dont agree with me
[DD:MM:YY:17:26:43] <@Dimitrix> but you need to understand this
[DD:MM:YY:17:26:46] <@Dimitrix> we have two opinions
[DD:MM:YY:17:26:48] <@Dimitrix> two views
[DD:MM:YY:17:26:53] <@Dimitrix> we cant have both
[DD:MM:YY:17:27:14] <@Dimitrix> so we go with the one that is stronger
[DD:MM:YY:17:27:18] <@Nykimu> but the TKO choice (which seems to have disappeared) was the most popular
[DD:MM:YY:17:27:20] <@Dimitrix> and ce, final call is mine
[DD:MM:YY:17:27:25] <@Dimitrix> no matter what issue
[DD:MM:YY:17:27:32] <@Dimitrix> you want to do things your way
[DD:MM:YY:17:27:37] <@Dimitrix> make your own clan
[DD:MM:YY:17:27:38] <@Dimitrix> or
[DD:MM:YY:17:27:40] <@Dimitrix> team
[DD:MM:YY:17:27:43] <@Dimitrix> or whatever you want
[DD:MM:YY:17:27:52] <@Dimitrix> but then you notice
[DD:MM:YY:17:27:57] <@Dimitrix> there are differing opinions
[DD:MM:YY:17:28:01] <@Nykimu> or i put things in to the team i am currently in atm to try and help it
[DD:MM:YY:17:28:06] <@Dimitrix> and somehow you need to come up with a solution
[DD:MM:YY:17:28:18] <@Nykimu> i would say a vote is a good opinion
[DD:MM:YY:17:28:31] <@Dimitrix> ...
[DD:MM:YY:17:28:40] <@Nykimu> it's not like we're voting on something massive like "who is next admin?", it's just about who we pair with in one war
[DD:MM:YY:17:28:53] <@Dimitrix> yea
[DD:MM:YY:17:28:56] <@Dimitrix> for such a small thing
[DD:MM:YY:17:29:01] <@Dimitrix> we need to start voting
[DD:MM:YY:17:29:06] <@Dimitrix> how about bigger things
[DD:MM:YY:17:29:07] <@Dimitrix> voting
[DD:MM:YY:17:29:12] <@Dimitrix> then we start asking
[DD:MM:YY:17:29:14] <@Dimitrix> who gets to vote
[DD:MM:YY:17:29:19] <@Nykimu> we don't vote?
[DD:MM:YY:17:29:24] <@Dimitrix> why those couldnt vote
[DD:MM:YY:17:29:38] <@Nykimu> how about you get to decide whether we can vote on a topic? (apart form this one :P)
[DD:MM:YY:17:29:48] <@Dimitrix> and then we start having these two different voter groups pushing against each other
[DD:MM:YY:17:30:04] <@Nykimu> and that's when you say yes to X and no to Y
[DD:MM:YY:17:30:08] <@Dimitrix> nykimu
[DD:MM:YY:17:30:13] <@Dimitrix> let me ask you 1 question
[DD:MM:YY:17:30:17] <@Nykimu> but when we can't even discuss things, i don't agree with that
[DD:MM:YY:17:30:23] <@Dimitrix> are you or me the main leader here?
[DD:MM:YY:17:30:33] <@Dimitrix> i make the same offer to you as i made it to har
[DD:MM:YY:17:30:36] <@Nykimu> i think i know this one
[DD:MM:YY:17:30:40] <@Dimitrix> do you want the main leader?
[DD:MM:YY:17:30:56] <@Khalid2ka> do u think we can pull 80 with lpt/
[DD:MM:YY:17:30:58] <@Khalid2ka> (17:30:35) <Ajaaj7> ok talk with your leaders 95% chance ill accept it you guys better pull 80 this time =p
[DD:MM:YY:17:30:58] <@Nykimu> i want to be able to talk with my leader
[DD:MM:YY:17:31:17] <@Nykimu> and discuss things and have some sort of say, not just do the work he wants me to do
[DD:MM:YY:17:31:21] <@Ilusion_Paw> we wont pull 80+ with LPT
[DD:MM:YY:17:31:27] <@Khalid2ka> mm
[DD:MM:YY:17:31:34] <@Khalid2ka> rsd wants 80+
[DD:MM:YY:17:31:36] <@Ilusion_Paw> [17:30] <@Khalid2ka> (17:30:35) <Ajaaj7> ok talk with your leaders 95% chance ill accept it you guys better pull 80 this time =p
[DD:MM:YY:17:31:45] <@Ilusion_Paw> so ye with lpt it's impossible
[DD:MM:YY:17:31:57] <@Dimitrix> how many we pulled with se?
[DD:MM:YY:17:32:05] <@Nykimu> SE pulled 65 yesterday lol
[DD:MM:YY:17:32:08] <@Nykimu> but average atm 35
[DD:MM:YY:17:32:09] <@Dimitrix> and how many we share with se
[DD:MM:YY:17:32:15] <@Dimitrix> out of the actives
[DD:MM:YY:17:32:21] <@Dimitrix> 15?
[DD:MM:YY:17:32:28] <@Ilusion_Paw> probly
[DD:MM:YY:17:32:32] <@Ilusion_Paw> ~10
[DD:MM:YY:17:32:35] <@Dimitrix> so 30+35-15
[DD:MM:YY:17:32:43] <@Dimitrix> 50 pull with se
[DD:MM:YY:17:32:50] <@Nykimu> 65 with shared members
[DD:MM:YY:17:32:52] <@Ilusion_Paw> what about tko
[DD:MM:YY:17:32:55] <@Khalid2ka> ya like 10
[DD:MM:YY:17:32:55] <@Nykimu> we have quite a fewLPT too
[DD:MM:YY:17:32:59] <@Khalid2ka> not many
[DD:MM:YY:17:33:00] <@Ilusion_Paw> ^
[DD:MM:YY:17:33:08] <@Nykimu> i'd say at least 5
[DD:MM:YY:17:33:38] <@Dimitrix> we wont get 80 with neither lpt, se nor tko
[DD:MM:YY:17:33:51] <@Dimitrix> 3vs1 would be...
[DD:MM:YY:17:33:55] <@Dimitrix> impossible to work with
[DD:MM:YY:17:34:05] <@Nykimu> we can get SE to pump people up for it
[DD:MM:YY:17:34:11] <@Nykimu> and if we push we can get 40
[DD:MM:YY:17:34:16] <@Ilusion_Paw> well SE pulled 69 yesterday
[DD:MM:YY:17:34:17] <@Nykimu> they can get 40 too
[DD:MM:YY:17:34:23] <@Nykimu> yeah
[DD:MM:YY:17:34:26] <@Ilusion_Paw> if we pull 35s
[DD:MM:YY:17:34:29] <@Ilusion_Paw> and they 40s
[DD:MM:YY:17:34:30] <@Ilusion_Paw> done
[DD:MM:YY:17:34:33] <@Dimitrix> we can get 40 with the -10/15
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[DD:MM:YY:17:35:09] <@Nykimu> i don't get why you're taking away the 10-15
[DD:MM:YY:17:35:15] <@Nykimu> those members will still be there even if they are shared
[DD:MM:YY:17:35:18] <@Dimitrix> because you're counting them twice
[DD:MM:YY:17:35:36] <@Nykimu> we can pull 30 non SE and SE can pull 30 non CE
[DD:MM:YY:17:36:15] <@Nykimu> how do i make people auto invited?
[DD:MM:YY:17:36:16] <@Dimitrix> so now you dropped your estimates to correct it
[DD:MM:YY:17:36:18] <@Dimitrix> better
[DD:MM:YY:17:36:28] <@Ilusion_Paw> not sure
[DD:MM:YY:17:36:37] <@Nykimu> that's 60, then we have our 10-15 shared
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[DD:MM:YY:17:36:41] <@Nykimu> that's 70-5
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[DD:MM:YY:17:37:05] <@Khalid2ka> mm
[DD:MM:YY:17:37:08] <@Dimitrix> since rsd wants a big challenge
[DD:MM:YY:17:37:16] <@Dimitrix> let's really just give it a try
[DD:MM:YY:17:37:19] <@Dimitrix> 3vs1
[DD:MM:YY:17:37:21] <@Nykimu> alone?
[DD:MM:YY:17:37:23] <@Dimitrix> ask lpt and se
[DD:MM:YY:17:37:27] <@Dimitrix> both of them
[DD:MM:YY:17:37:31] <@Khalid2ka> kk
[DD:MM:YY:17:37:32] <@Nykimu> o dear please no
[DD:MM:YY:17:37:33] <@Dimitrix> and whether rsd would be fine with it
[DD:MM:YY:17:37:35] <@Nykimu> please Dimitrix
[DD:MM:YY:17:37:45] <@Dimitrix> they probably are
[DD:MM:YY:17:37:52] <@Dimitrix> since 3 clans is practically impossible to control
[DD:MM:YY:17:38:02] <@Dimitrix> make sure the mass is 45 minutes
[DD:MM:YY:17:38:09] <@Dimitrix> and each clan masses at the same spot
[DD:MM:YY:17:38:15] <@Dimitrix> make sure we have a ts3 server for us
[DD:MM:YY:17:38:20] <@Dimitrix> ours is not an option
[DD:MM:YY:17:38:27] <@Dimitrix> SE's had some problems
[DD:MM:YY:17:38:33] <@Nykimu> Dimitrix you don't have to do this to try and prove some point
[DD:MM:YY:17:38:33] <@Dimitrix> also make sure the team cape is clear for everyone
[DD:MM:YY:17:38:36] <@Khalid2ka> dimi, dont you think a 3v1 is not really a challenge
[DD:MM:YY:17:38:37] <@Nykimu> 3v1 is an awful idea
[DD:MM:YY:17:38:47] <@Dimitrix> it can work out
[DD:MM:YY:17:38:48] <@Khalid2ka> we would most likely win
[DD:MM:YY:17:38:55] <@Dimitrix> but then you need to prepare very well
[DD:MM:YY:17:39:00] <@Dimitrix> most likely we wont
[DD:MM:YY:17:39:01] <@Nykimu> no honestly
[DD:MM:YY:17:39:03] <@Khalid2ka> se will most  likely pull 50v lpt around 35 ce 40?
[DD:MM:YY:17:39:06] <@Dimitrix> and rsd knows it too
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[DD:MM:YY:17:39:18] <@Nykimu> i'd rather pull low 60's than 120
[DD:MM:YY:17:39:24] <@Dimitrix> khalid, also make sure you have a friendchat that can add everyone
[DD:MM:YY:17:39:28] <@Nykimu> we'll just have people bitching to get into CC
[DD:MM:YY:17:39:34] <@Nykimu> not everyone will fight
[DD:MM:YY:17:39:43] <@Dimitrix> p2p friendchat
[DD:MM:YY:17:39:46] <@Nykimu> and it's gonna be a bitch for audio leaders
[DD:MM:YY:17:40:01] <@Nykimu> ok, you get the clean p2p account with no friends
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[DD:MM:YY:17:40:23] <@Nykimu> this isn't a realistic option
[DD:MM:YY:17:40:31] <@Dimitrix> or one option is that we just wont do this
[DD:MM:YY:17:40:38] <@Dimitrix> we cant match the 80 with any of those
[DD:MM:YY:17:40:43] <@Dimitrix> simple as that
[DD:MM:YY:17:40:45] <@Nykimu> we can with SE
[DD:MM:YY:17:40:49] <@Dimitrix> no we cannot
[DD:MM:YY:17:40:55] <@Nykimu> i'm in SE, i know their pulls Dimitrix
[DD:MM:YY:17:40:56] <@Dimitrix> we have seen it already
[DD:MM:YY:17:41:07] <@Nykimu> 69 yesterday at 8:30GMT
[DD:MM:YY:17:41:08] <@Khalid2ka> they pulled 70 yesterday lol
[DD:MM:YY:17:41:13] <@Khalid2ka> ya
[DD:MM:YY:17:41:15] <@Nykimu> and recently they pull 35 even with rsd/solace fighting
[DD:MM:YY:17:42:00] <@Khalid2ka> if we pair with SE and we dont think we can pull 80
[DD:MM:YY:17:42:05] <@Khalid2ka> we can always vs df
[DD:MM:YY:17:42:19] <@Khalid2ka> they dont mind if were 80 or not i think
[DD:MM:YY:17:42:29] <@Nykimu> we'd pull 80 against DF though because SE shares less members there don't they?
[DD:MM:YY:17:42:30] <@Dimitrix> let's give this 3vs1 a shot
[DD:MM:YY:17:42:54] <@Dimitrix> we make it important but not with an activity check in CE
[DD:MM:YY:17:43:27] <@Nykimu> are you kidding
[DD:MM:YY:17:43:31] <@Nykimu> it will be a nightmare
[DD:MM:YY:17:43:40] <@Ilusion_Paw> gosh
[DD:MM:YY:17:43:46] <@Nykimu> and you still haven't said how we can get 120 in a cc
[DD:MM:YY:17:44:03] <@Dimitrix> someone hosts a clear p2p fc
[DD:MM:YY:17:44:25] <@Nykimu> i don't think any of these teams buy their ts server
[DD:MM:YY:17:44:29] <@Dimitrix> it needs only 20 slots more than with se
[DD:MM:YY:17:44:39] <@Nykimu> i don't tihnk they're going to buy a p2p account for this war
[DD:MM:YY:17:44:54] <@Khalid2ka> Nykimu se has a ts slot up to 150
[DD:MM:YY:17:45:03] <@Nykimu> yeah we used yesterday
[DD:MM:YY:17:45:08] <@Nykimu> but i mean the FC
[DD:MM:YY:17:45:15] <@Dimitrix> tika held last time us both
[DD:MM:YY:17:45:19] <@Nykimu> nobody i know has a clear p2p account
[DD:MM:YY:17:45:25] <@Dimitrix> see if he can squeeze 20 lpt in too
[DD:MM:YY:17:45:49] <@Nykimu> can we please just not do this
[DD:MM:YY:17:45:53] <@L_Tappaja_Li> umm what are you planning
[DD:MM:YY:17:46:21] <@Nykimu> we stand no chance of a win even if we outpull, and if we were to somehow win it would just be "lol it's all numbers" and people probably wouldnt even take note of all 3 clans that teamed up
[DD:MM:YY:17:46:45] <@Nykimu> [16:25:38] <@Nykimu> SE offered a 2v1 for saturday
[DD:MM:YY:17:46:45] <@Nykimu> [16:25:42] <@Nykimu> he's invited just afk
[DD:MM:YY:17:46:45] <@Nykimu> [16:25:49] <@Nykimu> but TKO are also interested
[DD:MM:YY:17:46:45] <@Nykimu> [16:25:49] <@Ilusion_Paw> k
[DD:MM:YY:17:46:45] <@Nykimu> [16:25:56] <@Nykimu> we're busy this saturday, but for another time
[DD:MM:YY:17:46:45] <@Nykimu> [16:26:05] <@Nykimu> do you want to go with SE or TKO?
[DD:MM:YY:17:46:55] <@Nykimu> but dimi wants LPT and now he wants a 3v1
[DD:MM:YY:17:47:13] <@Nykimu> and we're not busy saturday, i thought it was our TT war but that is sunday XD
[DD:MM:YY:17:47:14] <@L_Tappaja_Li> who + who vs who
[DD:MM:YY:17:47:23] <@L_Tappaja_Li> or who + who + who vs who
[DD:MM:YY:17:47:28] <@Nykimu> CE + someone vs DF or RSD, both are interested
[DD:MM:YY:17:47:35] <@Nykimu> options are SE lpt and tko
[DD:MM:YY:17:49:08] <@Dimitrix> rsd wants us to have 80 for that fight
[DD:MM:YY:17:49:35] <@Nykimu> DF didn't say though
[DD:MM:YY:17:49:35] <@L_Tappaja_Li> first at all, we're screwed IF we pull over 70 because we can't handle those numbers, we never had experience of leading that many AND our TS is going to get laggy 90% sure if we pull ~100, secondly, 3-1 is a joke because there is exactly 2 teams who are able to team without raging, they are CE and TKO, imagine warring with SE, they're standing out and doing a lot shit and if you add LPT on
[DD:MM:YY:17:49:36] <@L_Tappaja_Li> that, we're spread all around the map without knowing anything, LPT people don't even speak english
[DD:MM:YY:17:50:04] <@Dimitrix> tko is extremely bad idea
[DD:MM:YY:17:50:08] <@Ilusion_Paw> +111 L_Tappaja_Li
[DD:MM:YY:17:50:11] <@Dimitrix> their attitude is shit
[DD:MM:YY:17:50:20] <@Dimitrix> not gonna happen that we do anything with tko
[DD:MM:YY:17:50:26] <@Nykimu> so SE is the best option surely
[DD:MM:YY:17:50:29] <@Ilusion_Paw> we could try once
[DD:MM:YY:17:50:32] <@L_Tappaja_Li> then pair with SE, but if you add lpt to that it'll be biggest mess in 2k
[DD:MM:YY:17:50:35] <@Ilusion_Paw> if they mess up then fuck them
[DD:MM:YY:17:50:43] <@Nykimu> rofl i wish i just accepted tika's offer straight away
[DD:MM:YY:17:50:54] <@L_Tappaja_Li> and I'm sure we could give a try to TKO, we never teamed with them, we could learn something new too
[DD:MM:YY:17:50:58] <@L_Tappaja_Li> we don't learn anything from SE
[DD:MM:YY:17:50:59] <@Ilusion_Paw> ^
[DD:MM:YY:17:51:03] <@Ilusion_Paw> THAT
[DD:MM:YY:17:51:05] <@Khalid2ka> +1 lol
[DD:MM:YY:17:51:19] <@Dimitrix> even NG would be better to team with
[DD:MM:YY:17:51:21] <@Dimitrix> than tko
[DD:MM:YY:17:51:34] <@Nykimu> disagree
[DD:MM:YY:17:51:35] <@Khalid2ka> ng run away in the cwri lol
[DD:MM:YY:17:51:50] <@Nykimu> tko at least fight us and are getting cleaner/less cheating
[DD:MM:YY:17:51:53] <@L_Tappaja_Li> disagree too, TKO is really experienced, they are cocky, yes, but they are also good
[DD:MM:YY:17:51:59] <@Ilusion_Paw> ^
[DD:MM:YY:17:52:13] <@Ilusion_Paw> i would go for tko, but not my decision
[DD:MM:YY:17:52:16] <@Dimitrix> and that cockyness is why teaming with them is horrible
[DD:MM:YY:17:52:18] <@L_Tappaja_Li> and yes, TKO don't cheat a lot anymore, one out of like 10 lasts fights (20 rounds ish)
[DD:MM:YY:17:52:18] <@Nykimu> and we are cocky and good, so a perfect match i'd say
[DD:MM:YY:17:52:33] <@L_Tappaja_Li> Dimitrix, don't you think they could get less cocky if they get to know CE better?
[DD:MM:YY:17:52:41] <@Dimitrix> doubt it
[DD:MM:YY:17:52:44] <@Dimitrix> seriously doubt it
[DD:MM:YY:17:52:47] <@Dimitrix> if we win
[DD:MM:YY:17:52:51] <@Dimitrix> they think it's cos of them
[DD:MM:YY:17:52:53] <@Dimitrix> if we lose
[DD:MM:YY:17:52:56] <@Dimitrix> they think it's cos of us
[DD:MM:YY:17:52:57] <@L_Tappaja_Li> why we should be arrogant and mean to eachothers? we could LEARN something, we do this war to take fun and practice out of it
[DD:MM:YY:17:53:04] <@L_Tappaja_Li> we could just forgot about it too
[DD:MM:YY:17:53:12] <@L_Tappaja_Li> we already warred with SE once and it was really shit
[DD:MM:YY:17:53:26] <@Ilusion_Paw> ye they stand out
[DD:MM:YY:17:53:26] <@L_Tappaja_Li> and we paired with LPT/know we have to lead it all the way though anyway
[DD:MM:YY:17:53:38] <@Nykimu> ^ our audio calling is weak atm
[DD:MM:YY:17:53:39] <@L_Tappaja_Li> then they think it's cos of us, who cares
[DD:MM:YY:17:53:40] <@Ilusion_Paw> + tko have good callers
[DD:MM:YY:17:54:21] <@Nykimu> we shouldn't disregard SE, they punished the members that stood out and they can pull well
[DD:MM:YY:17:54:24] <@L_Tappaja_Li> it's just waste of time to pair with SE or LPT
[DD:MM:YY:17:54:33] <@Nykimu> disagree, SE is a viable option
[DD:MM:YY:17:54:46] <@L_Tappaja_Li> hmm better than lpt yes
[DD:MM:YY:17:54:50] <@Ilusion_Paw> for high pull yes
[DD:MM:YY:17:54:56] <@L_Tappaja_Li> but we don't really learn anything new from it
[DD:MM:YY:17:55:10] <@Nykimu> yeah but don't forget it's high opts wars
[DD:MM:YY:17:55:25] <@Nykimu> and we're inexperienced a tthem, leaders especially, so we learn no matter who we go with
[DD:MM:YY:17:56:52] <@Nykimu> Dimitrix still want a 3v1 or can we go with SE?
[DD:MM:YY:17:56:54] <@Nykimu> or even tko?
[DD:MM:YY:17:57:00] <@Dimitrix> tko is a no
[DD:MM:YY:17:57:01] <@L_Tappaja_Li> eww just no 3-1
[DD:MM:YY:17:57:06] <@L_Tappaja_Li> then pick SE
[DD:MM:YY:17:57:13] <@Dimitrix> 3-1 would be interesting, tho
[DD:MM:YY:17:57:16] <@L_Tappaja_Li> no
[DD:MM:YY:17:57:24] <@L_Tappaja_Li> it would be a mess, really stupid and no point at all
[DD:MM:YY:17:57:24] <@Dimitrix> something that really tests whether we can organize it well or not
[DD:MM:YY:17:57:29] <@Nykimu> no
[DD:MM:YY:17:57:34] <@L_Tappaja_Li> just no
[DD:MM:YY:17:57:44] <@Nykimu> think
[DD:MM:YY:17:58:24] <@L_Tappaja_Li> we can't tell SE/LPT members to do anything, 100+ pull, none of us warred those numbers before, screen barely moving and you're talking about organizing?
[DD:MM:YY:17:58:44] <@L_Tappaja_Li> it's impossible because a lot would dc only because of the server lag, a lot would be standing out and getting 1 hit
[DD:MM:YY:17:58:48] <@L_Tappaja_Li> it's not even fun
[DD:MM:YY:17:59:50] <@Ilusion_Paw> it would be a pain to find piles
[DD:MM:YY:17:59:54] <@L_Tappaja_Li> and then try to call some english names out of 100 people/lagg and expect all LPT members to even understand? Even I/a lot other CE and probably SE members have difficulties, it just doesn't work
[DD:MM:YY:18:00:00] <@Ilusion_Paw> and snipers..
[DD:MM:YY:18:00:14] -*.SwiftIRC.net:@#ceranks- Nykimu invited V` into the channel.
[DD:MM:YY:18:00:21] * V` (~nnscript@Swift-118BC025.dhcp.inet.fi) has joined #ceranks
[DD:MM:YY:18:00:29] * Nykimu sets mode: +o V`
[DD:MM:YY:18:00:45] <@V`> and
[DD:MM:YY:18:01:23] <@Nykimu> what do you say dimi?
[DD:MM:YY:18:01:31] <@Dimitrix> try se then
[DD:MM:YY:18:01:40] <@Nykimu> I LOVE YOU TAPPI
[DD:MM:YY:18:01:44] <@Nykimu> AND DIMI THANK YOU
[DD:MM:YY:18:01:53] <@Dimitrix> but i believe this is going bad
[DD:MM:YY:18:01:59] <@Dimitrix> dont come to whine me when it does
[DD:MM:YY:18:02:09] <@V`> its going better than with LPT, I'm more than sure of it.
[DD:MM:YY:18:02:12] <@Dimitrix> and if we do have serious problems
[DD:MM:YY:18:02:19] <@Dimitrix> nykimu, you'll be taking a long break
[DD:MM:YY:18:02:24] <@Nykimu> lol
[DD:MM:YY:18:02:30] <@Nykimu> what would you regard as serious problems?
[DD:MM:YY:18:02:35] <@Dimitrix> we will see
[DD:MM:YY:18:03:07] <@Nykimu> no don't just look for excuses at the time to kick me
[DD:MM:YY:18:03:12] <@Nykimu> be fair and let me know now
[DD:MM:YY:18:03:25] <@Dimitrix> many things can go disasterously wrong
[DD:MM:YY:18:03:34] <@Dimitrix> i cannot foresee the future
[DD:MM:YY:18:03:41] <@Dimitrix> it can be anything
[DD:MM:YY:18:03:54] <@Nykimu> well fine it can be anything
[DD:MM:YY:18:04:04] <@Nykimu> but how do you define a "serious" problem?
[DD:MM:YY:18:04:05] <@L_Tappaja_Li> as long as CE is doing the best we can, we are fine
[DD:MM:YY:18:04:09] <@Nykimu> like losing by 50 kills?
[DD:MM:YY:18:04:41] <@Dimitrix> more about the attitude and how it works out with se
[DD:MM:YY:18:04:47] <@Dimitrix> if we are purely outperformed
[DD:MM:YY:18:04:55] <@Dimitrix> without any mistakes from our side
[DD:MM:YY:18:05:01] <@Dimitrix> we can lose by 100 kills and i wont mind
[DD:MM:YY:18:05:07] <@Nykimu> ok but if you kick me for something petty i'm coming to finland
[DD:MM:YY:18:05:13] <@Dimitrix> sorry
[DD:MM:YY:18:05:18] <@Dimitrix> im going to US in 5 days
[DD:MM:YY:18:05:25] <@Nykimu> damn that's ore expensive
[DD:MM:YY:18:05:29] <@Nykimu> i'll just wait in finland
[DD:MM:YY:18:05:40] <@Dimitrix> so i wont be attending myself
[DD:MM:YY:18:05:45] <@Dimitrix> but i will be asking others' opinions
[DD:MM:YY:18:06:38] <@Nykimu> hopefully other leaders don't hate me as much as you do LOL
[DD:MM:YY:18:06:52] <@Khalid2ka> Dimitrix can u war while ur in usa lol
[DD:MM:YY:18:07:16] <@Khalid2ka> i swear u have to live in europe
[DD:MM:YY:18:07:21] <@L_Tappaja_Li> how long you'll be in USA?
[DD:MM:YY:18:07:24] <@Dimitrix> im not going to war
[DD:MM:YY:18:07:35] <@Dimitrix> 3 weeks
[DD:MM:YY:18:07:36] <@Dimitrix> abouts
[DD:MM:YY:18:07:38] <@L_Tappaja_Li> ok
[DD:MM:YY:18:07:56] <@L_Tappaja_Li> have fun
[DD:MM:YY:18:07:57] <@Nykimu> har is in australia Khalid2ka
[DD:MM:YY:18:08:06] <@Nykimu> you;ll be on forums right Dimitrix?
[DD:MM:YY:18:08:07] <@Khalid2ka> o
[DD:MM:YY:18:08:13] <@Dimitrix> maybe randomly
[DD:MM:YY:18:08:17] <@Dimitrix> i wont take my computer with me
[DD:MM:YY:18:08:51] <@Nykimu> yeah
Session Close: Sun Jun 05 18:09:02 2011