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  1.  ''“Then Jesus said to his disciples, ‘Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me. For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it. What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?’”''
  2.  <span style="float: right; color: cornflowerblue">― Matthew 16:24―26</span>
  3.  
  4. Language has been disarmed. Fighting words are words which “by their very utterance, inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace. It has been well observed that such utterances are no essential part of any exposition of ideas, and are of such slight social value as a step to truth that any benefit that may be derived from them is clearly outweighed by the social interest in order and morality.” Pro-lifers commonly dismiss the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causal_chain chain of causation], because they believe that never will death occur. As a result, the cause of someone’s death—not life—will be the prejudiced proximity or influenced intervention of someone else.
  5.  
  6. == Peacemakers ==
  7.  
  8. <div style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold; margin: 15px 0">“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.”   ― Matthew 7:1-2</div>
  9.  
  10. As a precautionary measure, ensues a list of individuals who were gravitated toward depressed people. The convicted individuals deliberately aided, advised, or encouraged suicide with text messages. Please be vigilant.
  11.  
  12. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Francis_Melchert-Dinkel William Francis Melchert-Dinkel] (2011)
  13.  
  14. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Carter_(texting_suicide_case) Michelle Carter] (2014)
  15.  
  16. [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4709894/Blue-Whale-suicide-game-ringleader-jailed-Russia.html Philipp Budeikin (Blue Whale Challenge)] (2016)
  17.  
  18. [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4588248/Postman-game-teens-kill-themselves.html Ilya Sidorov (Blue Whale Challenge)] (2017)
  19.  
  20. [https://www.crimeonline.com/2019/08/01/death-obsessed-frat-brother-counselor-behind-rash-of-college-suicides-wore-clothes-started-dating-girlfriend-of-deceased-lawsuit/ Brandon Grossheim] (2016-2017) - <span style="font-size: 75%">Read more: [https://metro.co.uk/2019/08/02/death-obsessed-student-manipulated-five-friends-killing-10508611/][https://www.thedailybeast.com/death-obsessed-frat-brother-brandon-grossheims-advice-pushed-five-people-to-kill-themselves-lawsuit-claims] (Note: only lawsuit allegations - no text messages)</span>
  21.  
  22. [https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5382107/who-is-natasha-gordon-pole-dancer-suicide-pact-rutland/ Natasha Gordon] (2017) - <span style="font-size: 75%">Read more: [https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/dec/01/woman-found-guilty-of-encouraging-suicide-in-pact-with-postman][https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-42197216]</span>
  23.  
  24. [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4835980/Teen-convinced-dozens-children-commit-suicide.html A 17-year-old girl (Blue Whale Challenge)] (2017)
  25.  
  26. [https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/worldnews/6570687/blue-whale-suicide-game-creator-nikita-nearonov-arrested-moscow/ Nikita Nearonov (Blue Whale Challenge)] (2018)
  27.  
  28. [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7629079/Boston-College-student-Inyoung-insisted-tried-STOP-boyfriends-suicide.html Inyoung You] (2019) - <span style="font-size: 75%">Read more: [https://www.cbsnews.com/news/inyoung-you-accused-of-texting-boyfriend-alexander-urtula-to-commit-suicide-pleads-not-guilty-today-2019-11-22/][https://boston.cbslocal.com/2019/11/22/boston-college-texting-suicide-charges-inyoung-you-alexander-urtula/][https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/11/22/inyoung-you-texting-suicide-messages-released-by-da/][https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/75k-texts-in-two-months-woman-charged-with-allegedly-pushing-boyfriend-to-take-his-own-life/news-story/7bcbd56f1eeaf390f202bf4721c0efd6] (Note: only lawsuit allegations)</span>
  29.  
  30. == Fighting words usage ==
  31.  
  32. <div style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold; margin: 15px 0">“For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.”    ― Mark 10:45</div>
  33.  
  34. To offset any possible harms or breach of the peace, this section represents two peacemakers who used controversial speech to handle the tension and comfort their boyfriends.
  35.  
  36. === Insights of Michelle Carter ===
  37.  
  38. <div style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold; margin: 15px 0">“‘He himself bore our sins’ in his body on the cross, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness; ‘by his wounds you have been healed.’”    ― 1 Peter 2:24</div>
  39.  
  40. Michelle Carter was a young woman who’s had the negative limelight shone on her. As outlined in court documents, here are some of the messages that Carter sent to her boy friend, Conrad Roy III. Roy used a generator to produce carbon monoxide in his truck to peacefully pass away. Because nobody had any control over Roy anymore, the society was full of hate. After all, everybody hated that Roy had left them, so someone who was still alive had to be taken responsible for someone else’s actions. Being disgusted at Roy’s choice, the morally-delusional society spitefully pressured for conviction of Michelle Carter so that everybody could feel some supremacy over each other. If Carter had caused Roy’s death, Roy would be alive were it not for Carter. Given that there are myriad of ways to die, there’s no way to know Roy would be alive—unless we assume Carter was intrinsically guilty. Actually, were it not for the comfort of Carter, Roy might have died sooner or hurt others. Moreover, Carter used words that everyone is using. There’s no proof that hers was the lethal ones. Her illegal words made legal the knowledge of a novel method: using portable generator to produce carbon monoxide. In the absence of statutory direction, Carter was convicted based on the subjective ingeniousness of the act as opposed to established legal standards.
  41.  
  42. The U.S. Supreme Court denied a request from lawyers for Michelle Carter to have the court review her conviction stemming from using deputable words. On 13 January 2020, Carter’s case was among several on the court’s website listed under the heading [https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/01/13/metro/supreme-court-wont-hear-michelle-carter-case/ “Certiorari Denied,”] because the U.S. Supreme Court knew the only way to win  was not to review it. Soon after, she was [https://www.southcoasttoday.com/news/20200113/-update--supreme-court-wont-hear-michelle-carter-case released] from prison on 23 January 2020 for [https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/23/us/michelle-carter-text-suicide-release/index.html “good behavior.”] Carter was a model inmate.
  43.  
  44. You can read a transcription of all the messages between the teens on the day Conrad Roy committed suicide [https://www.boston25news.com/news/all-the-text-messages-between-michelle-carter-and-conrad-roy-they-day-he-died/532942907/ here], as well as all the messages presented as evidence [http://media.myfoxbostoncom.cmgdigital.com/document_dev/2017/06/13/Exhibit%20%23%2030_8327443_ver1.0.ods here][[https://forumfiles.com/T9c8q9qfod/Exhibit_30_8327443_ver1.0_ods 1]|[https://share.dmca.gripe/UlZbx9z6GokJQtlF.ods 2]|[https://krakenfiles.com/view/812ce8733c/file.html 3]|[http://www.solidfiles.com/v/e8AwXrKzP5nVx 4]|[https://tusfiles.com/ak0hmgmihxlg 5]|[https://userscloud.com/miuhmnxw1b5y 6]|[https://mega.nz/#!MZsESQBK!63L0VHdC16Ox6kgAqSMJuLUqzH-cvOCLizkiu27Zk0s 7]|[https://icedrive.net/0/56GE3qfnzW 8]|[https://e.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZyQXZJ8Yo8Hzc32JmrO0i58Ve2ydpAErX 9]]. In the following transcript, the --- indicates a pause between conversations.
  45.  
  46. <span style="color: dimgray; font-weight:bold">8 July 2014</span>
  47.  
  48. <span style="color: teal">Carter:</span>
  49. So are you sure you don't wanna [kill yourself] tonight?
  50.  
  51. <span style="color: sienna">Roy:</span>
  52. What do you mean am I sure?
  53.  
  54. <span style="color: teal">Carter:</span>
  55. Like, are you definitely not doing it tonight?
  56.  
  57. <span style="color: sienna">Roy:</span>
  58. Idk yet I'll let you know
  59.  
  60. <span style="color: teal">Carter:</span>
  61. Because I'll stay up with you if you wanna do it tonight
  62.  
  63. <span style="color: sienna">Roy:</span>
  64. Another day wouldn't hurt
  65.  
  66. <span style="color: teal">Carter:</span>
  67. You can't keep pushing it off, tho, that's all you keep doing
  68.  
  69. <span style="color: dimgray; font-weight:bold">4–12 July 2014</span>
  70.  
  71. <span style="color: teal">Carter:</span>
  72. You're gonna have to prove me wrong because I just don't think you really want this. You just keeps pushing it off to another night and say you'll do it but you never do
  73.  
  74. ---
  75.  
  76. <span style="color: teal">Carter:</span>
  77. SEE THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. YOU KEEP PUSHING IT OFF! You just said you were gonna do it tonight and now you're saying eventually....
  78.  
  79. ---
  80.  
  81. <span style="color: teal">Carter:</span>
  82. But I bet you're gonna be like "oh, it didn't work because I didn't tape the tube right or something like that" ... I bet you're gonna say an excuse like that
  83.  
  84. ---
  85.  
  86. <span style="color: teal">Carter:</span>
  87. Do you have the generator?
  88.  
  89. <span style="color: sienna">Roy:</span>
  90. not yet lol
  91.  
  92. <span style="color: teal">Carter:</span>
  93. WELL WHEN ARE YOU GETTING IT
  94.  
  95. ---
  96.  
  97. <span style="color: teal">Carter:</span>
  98. You better not be bull sh*ting me and saying you're gonna do this and then purposely get caught
  99.  
  100. <span style="color: dimgray; font-weight:bold">11–12 July 2014</span>
  101.  
  102. <span style="color: sienna">Roy:</span>
  103. I'm just to sensitive. I want my family to know there was nothing they could do. I am entrapped in my own thoughts
  104.  
  105. <span style="color: sienna">Roy:</span>
  106. like no I would be happy if they had no guilt about it. because I have a bad feeling tht this is going to create a lot of depression between my parents/sisters
  107.  
  108. <span style="color: sienna">Roy:</span>
  109. i'm overthinking everything. . f**k. I gotta stop and just do it
  110.  
  111. <span style="color: teal">Carter:</span>
  112. I think your parents know you're in a really bad place. I'm not saying they want you to do it, but I honestly feel like they can accept it. They know there's nothing they can do, they've tried helping, everyone's tried. But there's a point that comes where there isn't anything anyone can do to save you, not even yourself, and you've hit that point and I think your parents know you've hit that point. You said you're mom saw a suicide thing on your computer and she didn't say anything. I think she knows it's on your mind and she's prepared for it.
  113.  
  114. <span style="color: teal">Carter:</span>
  115. Everyone will be sad for a while, but they will get over it and move on. They won't be in depression I won't let that happen. They know how sad you are and they know that you're doing this to be happy, and I think they will understand and accept it. They'll always carry u in their hearts
  116.  
  117. <span style="color: sienna">Roy:</span>
  118. Aww. Thank you, Michelle.
  119.  
  120. <span style="color: teal">Carter:</span>
  121. They will move on for you because they know that’s what you would have wanted. They know you wouldn’t want them to be sad and depressed and be angry and guilty. They know you want them to live their lives and be happy. So they will for you. You’re right. You need to stop thinking about this and just do it because over turning always kills, over thinking.
  122.  
  123. <span style="color: sienna">Roy:</span>
  124. Yeah, it does. I’ve been thinking about it for too long.
  125.  
  126. <span style="color: teal">Carter:</span>
  127. Always smile, and, yeah, you just have to do it. You have everything you need. There is no way you can fail. Tonight is the night. It’s now or never.
  128.  
  129. ---
  130.  
  131. <span style="color: sienna">Roy:</span>
  132. i don't want anyone hurt in the process though
  133.  
  134. <span style="color: sienna">Roy:</span>
  135. I meant when they open the door, all the carbon monoxide is gonna come out they can't see it or smell it. whoever opens the door
  136.  
  137. <span style="color: teal">Carter:</span>
  138. They will see the generator and know that you died of CO. . . .
  139.  
  140. ---
  141.  
  142. <span style="color: sienna">Roy:</span>
  143. hey can you do me a favor
  144.  
  145. <span style="color: teal">Carter:</span>
  146. Yes of course
  147.  
  148. <span style="color: sienna">Roy:</span>
  149. just be there for my family :)
  150.  
  151. <span style="color: teal">Carter:</span>
  152. Conrad, of course I will be there for your family. I will help them as much as I can to get thru this, ill tell them about how amazing their son/brother truly was
  153.  
  154. ---
  155.  
  156. <span style="color: sienna">Roy:</span>
  157. Idk I'm freaking out again
  158.  
  159. <span style="color: sienna">Roy:</span>
  160. I'm overthinking
  161.  
  162. <span style="color: teal">Carter:</span>
  163. I thought you wanted to do this. The time is right and you're ready, you just need to do it! You
  164. can't keep living this way. You just need to do it like you did last time and not think about it and just do it babe. You can't keep doing this every day
  165.  
  166. <span style="color: sienna">Roy:</span>
  167. I do want to. but like I'm freaking for my family. I guess
  168.  
  169. <span style="color: sienna">Roy:</span>
  170. idkkk
  171.  
  172. <span style="color: teal">Carter:</span>
  173. Conrad. I told you I'll take care of them. Everyone will take care of them to make sure they
  174. won't be alone and people will help them get thru it. We talked about this, they will be okay and accept it. People who commit suicide don't think this much and they just do it
  175.  
  176. <span style="color: dimgray; font-weight:bold">12 July 2014</span>
  177.  
  178. <span style="color: teal">Carter:</span>
  179. So I guess you aren't gonna do it then, all that for nothing
  180.  
  181. <span style="color: teal">Carter:</span>
  182. I'm just confused like you were so ready and determined
  183.  
  184. <span style="color: sienna">Roy:</span>
  185. I am gonna eventually
  186.  
  187. <span style="color: sienna">Roy:</span>
  188. I really don't know what I'm waiting for. . but I have everything lined up
  189.  
  190. <span style="color: teal">Carter:</span>
  191. No, you're not, Conrad. Last night was it. You keep pushing it off and you say you'll do it but u never do. Its always gonna be that way if u don't take action
  192.  
  193. <span style="color: teal">Carter:</span>
  194. You're just making it harder on yourself by pushing it off, you just have to do it
  195.  
  196. <span style="color: teal">Carter:</span>
  197. Do u wanna do it now?
  198.  
  199. <span style="color: sienna">Roy:</span>
  200. Is it too late?
  201.  
  202. <span style="color: sienna">Roy:</span>
  203. Idkk it's already light outside
  204.  
  205. <span style="color: sienna">Roy:</span>
  206. I'm gonna go back to sleep, love you I'll text you tomorrow
  207.  
  208. <span style="color: teal">Carter:</span>
  209. No? Its probably the best time now because everyone's sleeping. Just go somewhere in your truck. And no one's really out right now because it's an awkward time
  210.  
  211. <span style="color: teal">Carter:</span>
  212. If u don't do it now you're never gonna do it
  213.  
  214. <span style="color: teal">Carter:</span>
  215. And u can say you'll do it tomorrow but you probably won't
  216.  
  217. ---
  218.  
  219. <span style="color: teal">Carter:</span>
  220. You just need to do it Conrad or I'm gonna get you help
  221.  
  222. <span style="color: teal">Carter:</span>
  223. You can't keep doing this everyday
  224.  
  225. <span style="color: sienna">Roy:</span>
  226. Okay I'm gonna do it today
  227.  
  228. <span style="color: teal">Carter:</span>
  229. Do you promise
  230.  
  231. <span style="color: sienna">Roy:</span>
  232. I promise babe
  233.  
  234. <span style="color: sienna">Roy:</span>
  235. I have to now
  236.  
  237. <span style="color: teal">Carter:</span>
  238. Like right now?
  239.  
  240. <span style="color: sienna">Roy:</span>
  241. where do I go? :(
  242.  
  243. <span style="color: teal">Carter:</span>
  244. And u can't break a promise. And just go in a quiet parking lot or something.
  245.  
  246. [Carter was scared of witnessing suicide for the first time. She later texted a friend to calm herself down.]
  247.  
  248. <span style="color: teal">Carter:</span>
  249. His death is my fault. He got out of the car because [it] was working and he got scared and I f[—]en told him to get back in.
  250.  
  251. Roy died; Carter lived. Carter was shocked and confused, because that was the first time she saw someone's death who was so close to her. Carter was inexperienced in the battle of depression and continuous persuasion of peace.
  252.  
  253. === Twaddles of Inyoung You ===
  254.  
  255. <div style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold; margin: 15px 0">“as water wears away stones and torrents wash away the soil, so You destroy a man’s hope.” ― Job 14:19</div>
  256.  
  257. Inyoung You, a 21-year-old former Boston College student, was increasingly physically, verbally, and psychologically abusive to her boyfriend, Alexander Urtula, over their year-and-a-half-long relationship. Their relationship ramped up over the two months before his suicide on 20 May—the day he would have graduated from BC. Prosecutors [https://boston.cbslocal.com/2020/02/20/inyoung-you-alexander-urtula-boston-college-texting-suicide/ argue] that You ruthlessly abused Urtula through the text messages, making him feel trapped. The defense says this is a false narrative.
  258.  
  259. It is with deep regret that You’s profanities in her [https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/11/19/texts-reveal-tragic-last-moments-before-boston-college-student-jumped-off-garage-his-death/0TBuI8GhmpRKIOnJfpFmdN/story.html text messages] are included.
  260.  
  261. <span style="color: olivedrab">You:</span>
  262. Do everyone a favor and go f------ kill yourself. You’re such a f------ stupid ass, worthless s---. Dude just f------ do everyone a favor and go f------ kill yourself honestly. f------ worthless ass, f------ piece of s---. You deserve nothing in the f------ world.
  263.  
  264. You f------ piece of s---. Go f------ die in hell. You deserve to go kill yourself. There's a main ceremony with all of you and you lie and say you won't see them at all? Can you go f------ kill yourself and leave me the f--- alone. And if you don't die, I'm going to f------ kill myself.
  265.  
  266. I want to bash your head against the wall. Can you go f------ hit your head on the f------ sink repeatedly? You are literally a piece of s---. You should go f------ die, or else I'm going to go slit my wrists again. How f------ idiotic you are like, baffles me.
  267.  
  268. <span style="color: dimgray; font-weight:bold">11 April 2019</span>
  269.  
  270. <span style="color: Coral">Urtula:</span>
  271. Inyoung please I’ll give you whatever you want … I’ll leave this (expletive) earth just please don’t do anything don’t hurt yourself anymore … so please I’ll get out of your life I’ll go die like you want … I’ll erase myself from this world. I don't have anything anymore if I don't have you.
  272.  
  273. <span style="color: dimgray; font-weight:bold">15 April 2019, 9:29 p.m.</span>
  274.  
  275. <span style="color: olivedrab">You:</span>
  276. … I LITERALLY (expletive) POINTED IT OUT OH MY GOD YOU LITERALLY I WANT TO BASH YOUR (expletive) HEAD AGAINST THE WALL CAN YOU GO (expletive) HIT YOUR (expletive) HEAD ON THE SINK REPEATEDLY …
  277.  
  278. <span style="color: dimgray; font-weight:bold">29 April 2019</span>
  279.  
  280. <span style="color: olivedrab">You:</span>
  281. ABUSE U THINK I ABUSE YOU U WANNA SAY I ABUSE U…UR THAT (expletive) IDIOTIC AND STUPID …
  282.  
  283. <span style="color: dimgray; font-weight:bold">18 May 2019</span>
  284.  
  285. <span style="color: olivedrab">You:</span>
  286. … did I NOT (expletive) TELL YOU TO READ (my text) NOW IF YOU DO NOT (expletive) READ IT RIGHT NOW I’M LITERALLY GOING TO (expletive) SLASH MY THROAT AND TAKE A VIDEO OF IT SAYING IT WAS BECAUSE OF YOU AND THAT I WANT YOU TO SEE IT …
  287.  
  288. <span style="color: dimgray; font-weight:bold">20 May 2019</span>
  289.  
  290. <span style="color: olivedrab">You:</span>
  291. Where the [expletive] are you?
  292.  
  293. <span style="color: olivedrab">You:</span>
  294. “who’d u run into or talk to? Whose room did u go to? Hello.”
  295.  
  296. <span style="color: coral">Urtula:</span>
  297. I’m not talking to anyone. I won’t ever again. I’m happy I got to spend my last night with you. I love you inyoung until my last breath.
  298.  
  299. <span style="color: olivedrab">You:</span>
  300. Then WHERE ARE YOU
  301.  
  302. <span style="color: olivedrab">You:</span>
  303. I ASKED U WHY UR LOCATION WASN’T AVAILABLE. ARE U KIDDING ME.
  304.  
  305. <span style="color: coral">Urtula:</span>
  306. I’m not gonna be anywhere inyoung this is goodbye forever. I love you. This isn’t your fault it’s mine.
  307.  
  308. <span style="color: olivedrab">You:</span>
  309. What. What. UR LEAVING ME.
  310.  
  311. <span style="color: coral">Urtula:</span>
  312. I’m far away on a tall place and I’m not gonna be here for long. I’m leaving everyone.
  313.  
  314. <span style="color: olivedrab">You:</span>
  315. ALEX. WHAT SRE YOU F------ DOING. IF U F------ LOVE ME STOP. IF U EVER F------ LOVED ME STOP.
  316.  
  317. <span style="color: olivedrab">You:</span>
  318. Don’t leave me like that if u ever loved me stop. If u wanna show me you love me stop.
  319.  
  320. <span style="color: coral">Urtula:</span>
  321. I did love you just not well enough. Good bye.
  322.  
  323. <span style="color: olivedrab">You:</span>
  324. STOP.
  325.  
  326. <span style="color: coral">Urtula:</span>
  327. You’ll have everything once I’m gone.
  328.  
  329. <span style="color: olivedrab">You:</span>
  330. PLWASE STOp. Talk to me. STOP. STOP. PLESEE. IM CRYING PLEASE. PICK UP. PLEASE . . . DON’T LEAVE ME LIKE THAT. IF U EVER LOVED ME STOP. IF YOU WANNA SHOW ME U LOVE ME STOP . . . please pick up . . . talk to me please.
  331.  
  332. <span style="color: olivedrab">You:</span>
  333. please [repeated more than 100 times]
  334.  
  335.  
  336. [[Category:Safety]]
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