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- [05:26:26] dhorn: alright then, here is an onyxia fight with glancing values for 3 people, one at 300, one at 305 and one at 310 weapon skill
- http://web.archive.org/web/20061103212028/http://userfs.cec.wustl.edu/~wbk1/Images/WoW/skill0.jpg
- http://web.archive.org/web/20060826192555/http://userfs.cec.wustl.edu/~wbk1/Images/WoW/skill5.jpg
- http://web.archive.org/web/20060826193104/http://userfs.cec.wustl.edu/~wbk1/Images/WoW/skill10.jpg
- the first two ones aren't all that interesting (both the wowwiki formula and the 70%+0.03%*(310-weapon_skill) formula are really close in expected average damage at these levels) but the last one, the 310 weapon skill test, is the interesting one here
- the average damage of his glancing blows was 102.7% the average damage of his normal white hits - keep in mind that the wowwiki formula would result in an expected average damage of (0.99+0.91)=95% here, while the sample size is only 1 fight, we are looking at a difference of 7.7% between expected and observed damage
- [05:26:42] dhorn: next up a thread on the official warrior forums
- [05:26:50] dhorn: http://web.archive.org/web/20060516141644/http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-warrior&T=942763&P=1
- [05:27:51] dhorn: he mentions that it is "semi-confirmed" that glancing blows can deal more damage than white hits, although he only mentions a difference of 0.4%
- [05:29:16] dhorn: again, what he would have gotten with the wowwiki formula here would be around 95% - he observed around 100% of normal white damage on his glancing blows and even believes that it gets higher than that, albeit very slightly (note that I am not trying to argue that this is possible)
- [05:29:40] dhorn: on the ninth page of that thread, we get some concrete numbers
- [05:30:56] dhorn: http://web.archive.org/web/20060519074240/http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-warrior&T=942763&P=9
- in one of his tests, the highest MH hit and highest MH glancing were equal, the lowest MH hit even ended up slightly below the lowest MH glancing observed
- [05:32:34] dhorn: again, I refer you back to the wowwiki formulas, this time the high/low ones - the test was performed at "capped" (for glancing damage that is) weapon skill and the wowwiki low end multiplier is as low as 0.91 at this point - he should be seeing low end glancing blows around 180 damage at best if the wowwiki formula applied
- [05:35:34 | Edited 05:36:28] dhorn: that basically concludes my argumentation as to why I believe the wowwiki formula to be wrong, so here's a bunch of sources I have on hand that believe the 70%+0.03% etc. variant to be true:
- - the retail thread above
- - http://leftoversraiding.org/index.php/topic/839/1/glancing-blows-and-you.html
- - http://wow.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=243&mid=1154446920253254922
- [05:37:21] dhorn: http://web.archive.org/web/20061115223930/http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=14381707&sid=1 as well
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