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- Fem R1
- Aqualad vs Batman Beyond
- * Aqualad has a reach advantage through his whips and other melee weapons
- * Terry is regularly hurt by electric attacks, so Aqualad would one-shot with his electric attacks that can take down Superboy, who has good electricity resistance
- * Terry has bad piercing resistance, meaning he gets Aqualad would easily slice through him as he usually does with metal
- Wolverine vs Archangel
- * Archangel's piercing isn't strong enough to bypass Wolverine's skeleton and he would heal from any piercing attacks
- * Wolverine's poison resistance allows him to survive more dangerous poisons than Archangel can output
- * Archangel's greatest strikes involve heavy wind up giving Wolverine a chance to heal and his durability is sufficient enough to take Arch's hits
- * Although Archangel is bulletproof, Wolverine can cut through adamantium which tanks shotgun fire
- Darth Vader vs Doctor Octopus
- * Ock has no heat resistance, while Vader's lightsaber can burn through metal that's unaffected by lava
- * Vader is tough to put down and Ock doesn't hit hard enough to get the job done
- * Ock relies on his ability to overwhelm his opponents from multiple angles, but Vader is already accustomed to fighting similar opponents
- ***
- Mik R1
- Aqualad vs Batman Beyond
- * Terry's invisibility gives him a distinct advantage and bypasses any range difference as Aqualad can't hit what he can't see
- * Terry is a faster and more skilled fighter than Aqualad
- * Aqualad uses blunt weaponry more often than piercing weapons, but even then his piercing isn't strong enough to go through Terry's underlayer of armor
- * The piercing antifeats given for Terry are from stabbing attacks not slashing like Aqualad usually does
- * Aqualad's electricity scaling to Superboy isn't good as Superboy handles it well, meanwhile Terry has enough electricity resistance feats to withstand Aqualad
- * Aqualad has been defeated by attacks similar in damage to what Terry can output
- * Terry's ranged gear gives him even more ways to end the fight
- Wolverine vs Archangel
- * Archangel possesses the speed, range, and reach advantage
- * Archangel's poison takes out people with better poison resistance than Wolverine, who's argued feat is insufficient as the mutant boy's powers aren't always on
- * Archangel can slice through metal easily without stopping and can pierce through Wolverine, who also takes a long time to heal from stab wounds
- * If Archangel is forced to fight in CQC, he'd still win as Wolverine has never taken strikes as powerful as Archangel's to the head before
- * Archangel's wings can block cuts from 616 Wolverine, who has better piercing than his Ult version, and is able shake off and fight through piercing attacks
- Darth Vader vs Doctor Octopus
- * Ock possesses a much greater reach than Vader and his scaling to Spider-Man makes him faster too
- * Ock can forcibly restrain Vader as his lifting strength is much greater
- * The durability feat used for Vader doesn't actually show his condition afterwards and he lacks any other impressive durability feats, whereas Ock has consistent feats for dealing heavy damage
- * Vader has no resistance to Ock ripping him apart and other prosthetic armored characters in Star Wars have had their armor pried open before by barehanded people
- * Ock's arms can handle being around a sun which vaporized tons of metal in seconds, much greater than the heat from lightsabers
- * Ock's arms instinctively defend and attack
- * If Vader were to be disarmed, he'd be helpless as he lacks the strength to contend with Ock
- ***
- Fem R2
- Aqualad vs Batman Beyond
- * Terry doesn't regularly use his invisibility, so it's basically a non factor and Aqualad is capable of tagging opponents he can't see
- * Terry is consistently tagged by opponents who are slower than Aqualad, so even if Aqualad was slower he'd still be able to land many hits on Terry
- * Aqualad's feat of taking down an opponent stronger and faster than him and more applicable to skill than Terry defeating multiple mooks
- * Aqualad's electricity deal visible pain to Superboy and scales above strong tasers like Robin's, whereas regular tasers still hurt Terry
- * The feat used to downplay Aqualad's strength isn't a valid antifeat since it was done with turning someone into a projectile, which is much better than just regularly denting metal with a direct strike
- * Fem concedes that Aqualad doesn't normally go for stabs, but it's very in-character for him to open up with a ranged attack or electricty
- * The feats used for Terry's piercing resistance aren't as good as they seem, yet they still heavily affect them, so Aqualad's decent piercing should too affect him
- * Terry's pillar kick wasn't done on a solid pillar
- * The antifeats used for Aqualad's durability are lacking context as he's still able to fight after being slammed through the pillar and the other feat isn't really an antifeat considering Superboy is "super" strong
- * The ranged pickups don't matter as neither opponents are likely to avoid the battle to get them and the effectiveness of Terry's gadgets are questionable
- Wolverine vs Archangel
- * The pinions and toxin don't matter to Wolverine as the pinions aren't strong and Mik's debunk of Wolverine's poison resistance ignores the fact that his scan was actually the first time it was activated and not evidence of it not always being turned on
- * Archangel needs to enter Wolverine's range to deal damage and since his attacks require windup, he risks getting dismembered by Wolverine
- Darth Vader vs Doctor Octopus
- * Ock has been only shown to kill when he was unconscious and his arms did it for him, while Vader has no qualms with killing
- * Ock speed scaling to Spider-Man was only when his powers were faulty and is later outsped when his powers return to normal, meanwhile Vader's ability to react to blasters and torpedoes put him above Ock
- * Ock's win conditions are reliant on him being able to tag Vader in the first place and he himself has been shown to be hit in every fight he's been in
- * Fem provides the aftermath to the argued durability feat for Vader, showing that he's fine and argues that Vader's great endurance and injury tolerance have gone uncontested
- * Vader being disarmed would only anger him more and cause him to go for the kill with the Force
- ***
- Mik R2
- Aqualad vs Batman Beyond
- * Aqualad's best strength feat without a weapon and windup is just denting metal and is only taking out a section of stone with them
- * In suit or out of suit, Terry is still capable of doing good damage against concrete and possesses better strength than Aqualad in general
- * Aqualad's durability can barely handle damage that Terry would just shrug off
- * Terry is faster than his shurikens while Aqualad has been shown to be unable to dodge shurikens
- * The skill feat used for Aqualad is indicative of real skill as he relied on electricity to fight Superboy and lost to him anyways, whereas Terry does defeat physically superior opponents
- * Terry in fact does use his invisibility often and is willing to blind opponents with his grenades, meanwhile the evidence used for Aqualad being able to hit opponents he can't see is bad
- * Aqualad has no feats to be able to take on the ranged gear of Terry
- Wolverine vs Archangel
- * Archangel doesn't need to enter Wolverine's range to pierce him
- * Ult Wolverine's poison resistance feat is irrelevant and the scaling Mik provided for 616 Wolverine and Deadpool's poison resistance is more applicable to the neurotoxin that Archangel uses
- * Wolverine shown to not be able to just ignore projectiles like the pinions and Archangel doesn't really require windup in close range
- * Wolverine usually opts for stabbing than dismembering, but Archangel can handle being stabbed and slashed fine
- Darth Vader vs Doctor Octopus
- * Ock definitely kills
- * Darth Vader never dodges and the only evidence used for his speed was deflecting projectiles, which isn't relevant in this fight
- * Ock's arms being able to handle the lightsaber's heat goes uncontested and so was Ock's superior strength
- * Darth Vader has no win conditions if disarmed as he's too slow to reach his ranged pickups and still prefers a close kill
- * Darth Vader's sole durability feat is irrelevant as Ock has been shown to easily rip and crush through metal and concrete
- ***
- Judgements
- Aqualad vs Batman Beyond
- Aqualad wins. I'm unconvinced whether Terry actually possesses a speed advantage over Terry as they're both animated characters that move in real-time and they visually move at similar speeds. Fem also brings up a good point Terry still gets tagged by opponents slower than Aqualad quite often.
- Although I agree that Terry is stronger than Aqualad, what clinches Aqualad's victory is his electricity. Aqualad has been shown to be willing to use it at long and close range, and quite often at that. The scaling chain used for the strength of Aqualad's electricity was valid in my eyes too. Superboy is completely unaffected by Robin's taser which can one shot a person, but Superboy was put into visibly immense pain by Aqualad's electricity. On the other hand, Terry has been shown to be still be clearly hurt by a taser that one shots someone and was only shown to be able to fight back after the taser was off him.
- I also don't think Terry is going to be using his invisibility that often. Not only do Fem's scans show this but so do Mik's. There are tons of moments where invisibility would've been useful but goes unused. Some of the invisibility scans show Terry turning it off after only one attack, so even if he does use it, he won't actually abuse it.
- Wolverine vs Archangel
- Archangel wins. Fem doesn't contest the idea that Archangel can cut through Wolverine, whereas Mik has shown multiple ways Archangel can slice and dice Wolverine without needing to enter his range. Mik also shows that Wolverine is indeed affected by projectiles like gunfire and since Archangel's pinions are just as strong if not stronger, it's clear that they too will be able to help take down Wolverine.
- Darth Vader vs Doctor Octopus
- Doctor Octopus wins this. The heat resistance of his arms goes uncontested. Coupling that with Ock's immense range advantage, I don't see any way Vader can contend with Ock. Ock is very likely to go into a grapple with his arms to crush or rip Vader and Vader just doesn't have any lifting feats or durability feats to contend with that.
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