nicole_somni_1

[22:11] Nqueen: Hey, how are you ?
[22:11] somni: idk
[22:12] somni: um like within a standard deviation of how i usually am
[22:12] Nqueen: Just to get clarification why did you recommend to quarantine me ? Have I done anything to offend you ?(edited)
[22:12] Nqueen: If so I apologize
[22:12] somni: i recommended quarantine because people wanted to ban you and i wanted you to be able to talk here if they did
[22:13] somni: similarly i asked for alison air to get a quarantine channel
[22:13] somni: because she got banned and i wanted people to be able to talk with her here
[22:13] Nqueen: I am not sure why people who want to ban me might have a voice in that.
[22:13] somni: ?
[22:13] somni: a voice in what?
[22:13] Nqueen: Lets say I dont like a person
[22:14] Nqueen: im not going to press the mod to ban them
[22:14] Nqueen: I am going to ignore that person and stay out of their way
[22:14] somni: these people seemed like they would
[22:14] somni: what are you optimizing for here
[22:14] Nqueen: I mean it would be the mature thing to do i believe hence why i blocked nathan
[22:14] somni: okay but not everyone is a clone of you?
[22:15] somni: you are being selectively stupid and i dont know why
[22:15] Nqueen: Not sure why you have to insult me but ok
[22:15] somni: um selectively less-optimizing-than-you-are-capable-of
[22:15] somni: idk how to say it without being ""insulting""
[22:16] Nqueen: hmm I think im being fair
[22:16] somni: i use the phrase 'im dumb wrt this' a lot with no valence
[22:16] somni: what does that even mean

i didnt dispute you being fair or not
[22:16] Nqueen: I can leave the server if people dislike me. its nbd
[22:16] somni: i never claimed you were being 'unfair'
[22:16] Nqueen: but not everyone is going to leave
[22:17] somni: i dont want you to leave
[22:17] Nqueen: If you keep insulting them on public chats
[22:17] somni: i want you to stay
[22:17] Nqueen: I am talking specifically
[22:17] Nqueen: about the people that are
[22:17] somni: idk how to make this more clear
[22:17] Nqueen: i dont think I should be quarantine since theres not much i did wrong on this server
[22:17] Nqueen: anyways
[22:18] Nqueen: Thats all I just wanted clarification
[22:18] somni: the quarantine is conditional on you being banned
[22:18] Nqueen: If the mods ban me it not a big deal
[22:18] somni: which i think you would agree is better than being banned with no quarantine?
[22:18] Nqueen: I dont think i was rightfully banned on the other server
[22:18] Nqueen: I feel like a lot of these people like to ban people for being different
[22:19] somni: me too
[22:19] Nqueen: I have gotten a lot of "oh no its a heterosexual female" ever since i downloaded discord
[22:19] Nqueen: shrug
[22:19] somni: you are locally neurodivergent and your brain is like an escher painting
[22:19] Nqueen: haha
[22:19] Nqueen: I know
[22:20] Nqueen: But I dont come to discuss issues on how different i am
[22:20] Nqueen: I like to discuss politics, economics, world events, social stuff
[22:20] Nqueen: that sort
[22:20] Nqueen: and learn
[22:20] Nqueen: thats why i stayed
[22:21] somni: i dont think this is accurate self-reflection; you seem to mostly really like drama and emotional torque
[22:21] Nqueen: and I actually apologized to zylphia
[22:21] somni: but thats #valid
[22:21] Nqueen: for the stuff I said
[22:21] Nqueen: but then x had to go and place us both into hell
[22:21] Nqueen: i like drama yes
[22:21] Nqueen: im not going to lie
[22:21] Nqueen: but its a big waste of my time
[22:21] Nqueen: and i wasted a lot of it
[22:22] Nqueen: 4 days
[22:22] Nqueen: regardless
[22:22] Nqueen: zylphia and others also like drama
[22:22] Nqueen: or they would stay away from mentioning me at all and let the mods handle it
[22:22] Nqueen: Thats just my opinion
[22:23] somni: yeah you and zyl share neurotype traits in a certain kind of liking drama
[22:23] Nqueen: mhm
[22:23] Nqueen: but she is very disliking of cis women
[22:23] Nqueen: i said hello
[22:23] Nqueen: she pointed out that im cis
[22:23] Nqueen: haha
[22:23] Nqueen: i didnt point out that shes transexual
[22:24] Nqueen: but that is besides the point
[22:24] Nqueen: If we were in a chat with more people that were cisgendered then maybe there would be less bias towards things,  again just an opinion.
[22:24] somni: you are so sociopathic
[22:24] somni: wow
[22:24] Nqueen: why sociopathic
[22:24] Nqueen: why the insult again
[22:25] somni: how do i report my belief that you are sociopathic without it sounding like an insult?
[22:25] Nqueen: oh
[22:25] Nqueen: are you trying to hurt my feelings? haha
[22:25] somni: no
[22:25] Nqueen: ok thats fine then
[22:26] Nqueen: usually sociopath is bad
[22:26] Nqueen: so is stupid
[22:26] somni: sometimes people have bad qualities?
[22:26] Nqueen: you are very blunt
[22:26] somni: would you expect a report of your psyche to come back with only good things?
[22:26] Nqueen: nope
[22:26] Nqueen: i know my flaws
[22:27] somni: i dont think you have an accurate model of your flaws
[22:27] somni: because of your particular kind of sociopathy
[22:27] somni: and the way you construct your personal narrative
[22:27] Nqueen: Possibly
[22:30] somni:
[22:23] Nqueen: mhm
[22:23] Nqueen: but she is very disliking of cis women
[22:23] Nqueen: i said hello
[22:23] Nqueen: she pointed out that im cis
[22:23] Nqueen: haha
[22:23] Nqueen: i didnt point out that shes transexual
[22:24] Nqueen: but that is besides the point

things of the form 'i did a good thing and she did a bad thing, but thats besides the point' to make it hard for the person you are interfacing with to interact with the point is heavy narrative manipulation

zyl does this sort of narrative manipulation too; and its useful for constucting a personal narrative where you are on the side of light and trying to convince other people that you are 'good' but bad for epistemics and forming an accurate picture of yourself

or communicating an accurate picture of yourself to another person
[22:30] Nqueen: OH
[22:30] Nqueen: For sure !!!!!
[22:31] Nqueen: I always do this
[22:31] Nqueen: I’m right she is wrong type of thing
[22:31] somni: ^ it takes about a paragraph to unknot each sentence you say because they all contain this sort of manipulation and distortion

which is an exceptional trait among humans
[22:31] Nqueen: I’m very salty for her getting to stay on the server  and me being banned for her doing the exact same thing with no messaging harassment being proven
[22:31] Nqueen: Law student
[22:32] somni: you are maybe 2 standard deviations above the average for this mental trait
[22:32] Nqueen: Manipulation is my game unfortunately I think I’m ok
[22:32] somni: which makes interacting with you energy-intensive
[22:32] Nqueen: But I tend to speak like this I am programmed
[22:32] Nqueen: I’ve heard that before
[22:32] Nqueen: Are you a neuroscientist ?
[22:32] Nqueen: You’re really cool
[22:32] somni: you dont seem to be able to think without the manipulation module running even to yourself
[22:33] somni: im not answering this because the question doesnt care about the answer and you are being manipulative again
[22:33] somni: like you are being dumb wrt efficient use of evidence
[22:34] somni: but smart wrt trying to ruin other people's epistemics
[22:34] Nqueen: But question is
[22:34] Nqueen: Why are you trying to analyze this so much ?
[22:34] Nqueen: Why not just speak freely
[22:34] somni: thats a dumb framing
[22:34] Nqueen: I mean
[22:34] somni: i am speaking freely
[22:35] Nqueen: I feel like you have are posing a dumb framing
[22:35] somni: what are you optimizing for?
[22:35] somni: what do you want from me?
[22:35] Nqueen: I don’t want anything
[22:35] somni: then why talk with me?
[22:35] Nqueen: But you shouldn’t  use the word dumb, stupid, or sociopath(edited)
[22:35] somni: if you are talking with me it means you want to
[22:35] somni: why do you want to?
[22:36] Nqueen: Alright somní
[22:36] Nqueen: Nice chat
[22:36] Nqueen: Have a good night
[22:36] somni: you are lying to yourself when you say you dont want anything
[22:36] somni: ttyl