Can CP Conv

ItsColour - Today at 8:41 PM
I see you have made your choice. gl
Winston Hope Smith - Today at 8:46 PM
the choice you made....you attacked us, we were peaceful neighbours until you became hostile...are you willing to make reparations?
ItsColour - Today at 8:49 PM
we attacked in good spirit and with legit reason for resource, if that is your goal here i have no issue. if this is a simple revenge attack then it is childish and i will not respond to that type of discussion
Winston Hope Smith - Today at 8:54 PM
So you, the attacker, get to decide the rules of engagement...how very "imperial" of you.  But lets not part on a sour note...  Have a beer on me  https://media.giphy.com/media/nZhG9ircZ81Og/giphy.gif
ItsColour - Today at 8:54 PM
you are twisting my words
and playing games rather then looking at the facts
Winston Hope Smith - Today at 8:56 PM
Fact 1 you tried to strong arm us, under threat, to accept a deal.
Fact 2.  We refulsed
refused*
ItsColour - Today at 8:56 PM
I did no such thing
and I cant be held responsable for duchman's actions
I came into office with this war already in place
I am simply trying to see it come to an end
Winston Hope Smith - Today at 8:57 PM
Fact 3 You attacked us to take by force what you could not get by threats
ItsColour - Today at 8:57 PM
and you are holding a grudge
Winston Hope Smith - Today at 8:57 PM
Fact 4 you won
fact 5 you attacked again
Fact 6 you lost
Fact 7you lost the rW also
Not a fact...it was all a misunderstanding and you did not mean to do all this...twice
I have a question
ItsColour - Today at 8:58 PM
your mind is already made up, there is no discussion here
you are just telling me how it is
Winston Hope Smith - Today at 8:59 PM
I have a question
before you go
If you did not attack us would we be attacking NFL now?
ItsColour - Today at 9:01 PM
that question leads no where, and I have no way to know the answer to that.
Winston Hope Smith - Today at 9:03 PM
I can answer...No
ItsColour - Today at 9:03 PM
speaking about what if's is of no use
Winston Hope Smith - Today at 9:05 PM
So either we win this battle or we do...if we do we can talk, if you do the decision is yours and I for one will be interested in what you do
ItsColour - Today at 9:05 PM
I told you what canada's stance was
Winston Hope Smith - Today at 9:07 PM
Ireland stance, since we got rid of Bryce, is to live in peace with our neighbours ...but
if attacked never to submit ever
if attacked a price has to be paid by the attacker or they will do it again and again...
the attacker does not get the option of "well sorry about that no hard feelings"
ItsColour - Today at 9:09 PM
that is not true, and i find it funny how france can take so many regions
then frown on other nations that try to do the same
it is one in the same action
and hypocritical of them to try and punish us for it
Winston Hope Smith - Today at 9:09 PM
You see the problem is...you don't see what you did was wrong
we live in this corner, helping our allies, you guys one group, us another, but in peace here
till now
if we do nothing
what will happen...put yourself in our shoes
ItsColour - Today at 9:11 PM
it was a dispute over a resource and nothing more, there is no reason to make every dispute into world war 3
and i know what i would do in your shoes
take the victory
and accepted the peace offer I made
Winston Hope Smith - Today at 9:12 PM
But whats to stop you tying again and again if there is no cost...you did it once
ItsColour - Today at 9:12 PM
and as i said i have no intention of starting further battles
should canada win this
it will be over
provided ireland does not try again
i gave you my word
Winston Hope Smith - Today at 9:12 PM
You will not always be CP and as you said to me already you can't controlDutch
ItsColour - Today at 9:12 PM
no that is correct, but things change
and you cannot expect the game server to remain the same forever
nor can i be expected to make such a promise
Winston Hope Smith - Today at 9:13 PM
If I were you I would allow us to win the battle...and we can talk about returning it...that is fair as you took one of our regions.  We are not planning on holding it long...we wantto live in peace in this corner
ItsColour - Today at 9:14 PM
we took a regoin for 24 hours, i told you i will not respond to arbitrary revenge
Winston Hope Smith - Today at 9:14 PM
That is a fair and equivocal offer
ItsColour - Today at 9:14 PM
and that is all this is about from what i can see
Winston Hope Smith - Today at 9:15 PM
revenge it is not...it is a disincentive  to doing that again...what do you expect to do
expect us*
sit back till you  attack us again as there was no cost?
in all this you must remember you attacked us not the other way around
ItsColour - Today at 9:17 PM
yes there was cost, both the cost of declare war and the cost to attack regions
you realize it costed 10 gold to click fight newfoundland
canada spent 40 gold on nothing already
Winston Hope Smith - Today at 9:17 PM
cost me 15 for the RW
ItsColour - Today at 9:17 PM
that was a choice
Winston Hope Smith - Today at 9:17 PM
So who retund us
refunds
ItsColour - Today at 9:18 PM
i did not force you to spend that gold
and i will not refund it
shannon was simply a connection to louth and we had no intention of keeping it
Winston Hope Smith - Today at 9:19 PM
yes you did when you pushed the initial attack button    If you had not attacked us I would not of had to pay
but I did not ask for it back
I am not  looking for a full return of our costs
I am saying there needs to be a consequence for hostile actions...it does not need to be exorbitant just a disincentive  to doing this again...our attack, should we win and hold for a day or so, will suffice
ItsColour - Today at 9:22 PM
I don't see these talks leading anywhere useful if I am being honest. should canada win, you will learn that my word is true and there will be no further battles
Winston Hope Smith - Today at 9:22 PM
I will pass that on
but
read my words above...I too speak the truth...we would never of attacked you, we were happy with the peace with neighbours...our only exception was Northern Ireland that we insist is a game aberration and ours by right  (clue is in the name :smiley: )
After this we could draw up a long term peace if you wish, as MoFA my door is always open