Randy Credico Interviews Roger Stone (03/05/2016)

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"You're Crazy If You're Up This Early" hosted by Randy Credico, transcript excerpt with guest Roger Stone. Broadcast date: March 5, 2016.

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RANDY CREDICO
Alright, we are going to continue, in just a second here, I hope, let's make sure he's on the phone. We are going to talk to a very controversial figure, I know that this person has never been on WBAI...is he ready? Is he- This guy is the most interesting character, individual, if you watch him on television, anything about what's going on...in this election, you've seen this author, activist, conservative activist, libertarian activist, actually he did a set, he does comedy, at- he was funnier than I am, at that place in the East Village, called the Yippie Museum. [video is on youtube, "Roger Stone Performs at Yippie Cafe!", link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1XpJnSniKc] But you've seen him; his name is Roger Stone, and he's the author of a very, very interesting book on Hillary, or the Clintons...Roger, are you there?

ROGER STONE
I'm here. Great to be here.

CREDICO
Thank you for- Roger Stone, folks! If you've seen- You see a lot, this guy on television, by the name of Jeffrey Lord, he's boring, he's not interesting, Roger Stone is an interesting individual, and, you know, what is going on with the Republican party, Roger? I know you were working with Donald Trump, from the outset, how do you explain his phenomenal success?

STONE
Well, it's funny that you mention my friend Jeffrey Lord...you know, this guy walks into a restaurant, he orders vanilla ice cream and weak tea. I mean- [CREDICO laughs]

CREDICO
He's not your friend, I gather.

STONE
No, actually, I know him very well...he's a very nice guy, but you fall asleep while you're talking to him. You know, I don't want to say he's boring, but _good god_.

CREDICO
Yeah, he's rather boring. The other guy who's boring for him is the campaign manager, Sam Clovis. Why is he surrounded by such boring people when he is, he's really charismatic, I must say, I don't agree with him on most-

STONE
Sam Clovis is an illegitimate son of Richard Trumka and Tugboat Annie.

CREDICO
[CREDICO laughs loudly] That's very funny. That's very- So obviously you're no longer an official advisor to the campaign. You were at one point. Am I right?

STONE
Yeah- No, I resigned back in August for the simple reason, after forty one years of working on and off for Donald Trump, starting in 1981...very clear to me that he wanted to be his own strategist, and his own speechwriter, and his own press secretary, and his own logistician...and, you know what, Randy? It's his name, it's his money, and it's his right, if he wants to do it that way...kindof tough to argue how it's gone...this guy is someone who has talked about running numerous times, has talked about running three years ago, talked about running in 2000, talked about running for president as early as 1988, and I think many, many elites in the media said, "Oh, he'll never run, he's just burnishing the brand, this is all just another exercise in public relations..." And, you know, he ran.

CREDICO
Yeah.

STONE
And people said, he'll never file the financial disclosures, he doesn't want people to know how much he's worth, it's so complicated he'll never file...he files on time, it's Jeb Bush who has to file for an extension.

CREDICO
Right.

STONE
And a lot of ill gotten gains for Jeb to hide. He made millions on Obamacare, millions on Obamaphones, you know, millions on the governorship, so he's gotta to figure out how to hide all that. Or at least arrange so you can't figure it out in his financial disclosures. And then they said: "Oh, he'll never go to the debates, he'll make a fool of himself at the debates." Well, he's gone to the debates, it's been great television. At a minimum, it's great television.

CREDICO
Very entertaining, I must say. Very entertaining.

STONE
You know, I wish he had said "I'm going to build a wall!" a few more times...

CREDICO
Right.

STONE
...I don't know if he said that enough.

CREDICO
"I'm going to build a wall, and Mexico's going to pay for it, I don't use profanity like the ex-president of Mexico." What would you do, Roger, if you were him, what kind of strategy at this point, last week, this whole kerfuffle with the KKK, where he was on with Jake Tapper, and then you had this guy, Jeffrey Lord, trying to explain it, what would you have told them to do? Would you have told them to retract that immediately, or what?

STONE
I would have told them, disavow. First of all, Randy, as you all know, in this country today, if you go to a KKK meeting, or a white supremacist meeting, or an Aryan Brotherhood meeting, there are more government informants there than there are members.

CREDICO
[laughs] Sounds like my audience last night. Yeah.

STONE
I mean, the truth of the matter is, these organizations are completely controlled by the federal government, they're infiltrated by the federal government, and used by the federal government. In this case, they're being used by the mainstream media. But: Trump should've disavowed them immediately. Just throw them over the side. He already disavowed David Duke back in, I think it was in August, when he popped his miserable head up...there is one possibility, he didn't know David Duke was, maybe Duke had so many plastic surgeries Trump didn't recognize him...you know, this is a simple one, this is guilt by association, I think this is just a stubborness. He did the right thing, you know, it took him twenty four hours. I would have- Had I been advising him on this, which I am not, because I have no formal or informal role in his campaign, I'm really a F.O.T., Friend Of Trump...

CREDICO
I see.

STONE
Trump, for example, is now denouncing the war on drugs as a failure.

CREDICO
Oh, he is?

STONE
Oh, yeah, has for some time now.

CREDICO
Right.

STONE
So I like to think I'm having some-

CREDICO
I think so. You've always been against the war on drugs. You ran Gary Johnson's campaign for president, and they, I'm sure, made that very difficult for you, the powers that be, but...you know, that message was very important, by Johnson. He's- And I met him back in 2001 and 2002, in New Mexico, I took a group of these mothers, whose kids were in prison, he was against the war on drugs back then. So, I'm glad to see. You had Tom Golisano speak out against the Rockefeller drug laws before any politician in 2002.

STONE
I always thought...that of all the impressions you did, your Tom Golisano, had to be the best.

CREDICO
[does Golisano] Tom Golisano... [ends] that's my worst impression. [does Nixon] I do a great...now, you worked with Nixon...and, I know you did, you can't deny that...[now does Reagan] and you worked with Reagan, I gotta tell ya, there I do...what would Reagan say today, about what's going on with the Republican party, and how it seems to be dissolving?

STONE
Well, you know, we've seen all this before...in all honesty, when you've been attacked in one week by the pope, the Chinese government, the former president of Mexico, and two hundred foreign policy experts co-sign a letter saying you're unfit to be president, getting stung by Mitt Romney is like being bit by a mosquito.

CREDICO
Yeah.

STONE
On the other hand, I don't think any of this will damage his ability to be nominated...here's what's going to happen...March 15, you have Ohio and Florida, if Trump should carry both, he's the certain nomineee. He carries one out of two, then he's the probable nominee. If he carries neither, we're headed toward a brokered convention. So, get out your cigars.

CREDICO
So, then what happens? At a brokered convention.

STONE
Well, here's what happens. He falls short on the first ballot...you need 1237 votes to be nominated...let's say, he gets, he's at 1200. Or he's at 1100. And nobody else is close. Everyone else is sitting there with just enough to deny him the nomination. Now, I predict to you, right here on this show, if Rubio bombs out in Florida, watch Romney file for the New Jersey and California and several other late primaries.

CREDICO
It's not too late for that?

STONE
No, it isn't. Those filing deadlines run all the way to late April. So, it's still time...in fact, even today, as we sit here, only a third of the delegates have been selected.

CREDICO
Right. So-

STONE
We're going to have- We're going to have in the next week, another third. In caucuses, in exciting places like Kansas and Nebraska. [CREDICO laughs] But you're going to um...so, it's still possible- Romney understands the convention will not turn to, call it a compromise choice, or brokered choice of somebody who has no delegates at all. He's going to get in to try and grab some late delegates, and then, you get to the first ballot...Trump falls short on the first ballot...and then there's a number of delegations who are pledged to Trump on the basis of his primary victory. On the first ballot, they're bound to him, I should say...who are released on the second ballot by party rules. Let's think of a state that's like this...oh, I don't know, how about New York?

CREDICO
Right.

STONE
Trump will win the New York primary, the New York delegates will overwhelmingly be bound to him on the first ballot, and the second ballot, these are the handpicked stooges of Ed Koch.

CREDICO
Right. And where's Cox with this? Cox is supporting Mitt Romney, obviously.

STONE
There's a bunch of guys at the table, someplace...while we're doing this radio show at seven fifteen in the morning...you are the only person who I'd get up this early in the morning for.

CREDICO
I really appreciate it. I know that, I know that. You know.

STONE
Because I'm not a morning person.

CREDICO
I know. You sound great though.

STONE
Right now, someplace, sitting around a table, someplace, are Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan, Marco Rubio, also known as "Little Marco", uh, Ted Cruz, who sounds exactly like Mr. Haney [character on the TV show Green Acres]...

CREDICO
[does Mr. Haney voice] He does sound like him, doesn't he? Would you like to have some of this, Mister uh Mister uh Mister Romney? This is Ted Cruz.

STONE
[attempts Mr. Haney voice] Well, Mister...[stops attempt] In any event...and then you've got Barbara Bush, with a quart of vodka and a bottle of orange juice in front of her. [CREDICO laughs] By the way, she's plastered by ten.

CREDICO
Is she, really? Now, this is in your book, what's the name of your book on the Bush [sic]?

STONE
I have written the ultimate, the definitive, expose on the Bush crime family...get my book _Jeb! And The Bush Crime Family_, which charts the entire arc of this family, American dynasty. They operate more like the mafia. Let's start from the top: Prescott Bush, U.S. senator from Connecticut. Adolf Hitler's personal banker. A man who arranges the financing of the arming of the Nazi war machine. His father, Samuel Bush, makes the family money in the poppy trade. He's a drug trafficker. Then you got George H.W. Bush, as Vice President, he heads the task force that imports millions of dollars worth of cocaine into the United States, southern United States. In order to be converted to cash, to illegally finance the Nicaraguan rebels, after the Congress [sic] cuts off the funds. He also, uh, has involvement in the Kennedy assassination, which...he can't remember where he was on November 22, 1963, for thirty years [sic], he can't remember, then in 1985, there are federal documents that are declassified, pertaining to the Kennedy and King assassinations, and we find, lo and behold, guess where he was? Dallas. He shared a hotel, steps from Dealey Plaza. Whoops. He is so deeply involved in the drug trade, during the Nicaraguan conflict, that when the notorious drug trafficker Barry Seal, comes about to be...I guess he's already immortalized in this TV series "Narcos", and who Tom Cruise is making a movie about right now ["American Made" IMDb link: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3532216/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1]...he is gunned down, after threatening George Bush. The IRS is after Seal, who's actively involved in trafficking drugs under the secret program, the IRS is after him, he goes to George Bush, he says, "If you don't get the IRS off my back, Mr. Vice President, I'm going to reveal the fact that your sons George W. and "Jeb!"...were caught by the DEA on videotape bringing a kilo in Opa-locka airport [Miami-Opa Locka Executive Airport], Florida. Four days later, Seal is gunned down in the street. In his wallet, they find a folded up piece of paper that has the direct, unlisted phone number of President George Bush. Three Columbians are arrested, uh, for his murder...they go to trial, they insist at the trial that they're working for the U.S. government, and they were under the direction of a U.S. Army Colonel: Oliver North.

CREDICO
Woah.

STONE
So...

CREDICO
Wow.

STONE
So the family, the family involvement with...I mean, the entire story here, is one of privilege, and elitism, and Saudi financing, the Saudis bail the family out repeatedly, as early as the sixties, which are understandable, [sic] why, then on the night of 9/11, twenty six members of the Bin Laden family are quietly flown out of the country on U.S. aircraft. And today, as you know, Randy, twenty nine pages of the 9/11 Commission Report are still redacted.

CREDICO
Right.

STONE
Classified, that pertain to the Saudi financing of the attack on America. Now, I'm not a 9/11 truther-

CREDICO
Right, right.

STONE
I think we were attacked by the Saudis. The question: how much did our government know about it?

CREDICO
Right.

STONE
And why didn't they do- Why did they let these people leave the country?

CREDICO
Well, it's amazing-

STONE
You know, in Florida-

CREDICO
Go ahead.

STONE
Here in Florida, a number of the hijackers trained here in Florida, in Tampa. According to a Freedom of Information request that I filed, which I had to fight with the government over, there were twenty six complaints...to the state police, to the Florida department of law enforcement about these guys, that something strange was going on. This is under Jeb Bush. And you know what happened? Nothing. That's what happened. Nothing.

CREDICO
Wow. Well, I got to say that's a fascinating- I tell you, the book is a fascinating book, I know you have one on the Clinton family. Can you back next week, or the week after, and share with our listeners, you know, something about, something about the Clinton family? I know- What's the name of the book on the Clintons?

STONE
It's called _The Clintons' War on Women_, and we should do that, because every Bernie Sanders supporter you know, should tune in. See, I'm really disappointed in Bernie, because he's not hitting her where he can beat her. Going around, railing about Wall Street, is not going to win him the nomination. Hillary Clinton has abused women, she has- her husband is a sexual predator...Bernie knows it, his brother said it in the newspaper recently. She is the one who has terrorized those women, Randy. Who has intimidated and bullied them, and then you've got the epic stealing at the Clinton Foundation. I mean, add on that, Bill's illegitimate abandoned black son, Danney Williams, who, by the way, I met last week. Credible kid.

CREDICO
Wow.

STONE
Black Lives Matter, unless you're Bill Clinton's son. In which case your life doesn't matter at all.

CREDICO
Wow. We're going to get into that real deeply, uh, next week...uh, if you'll come back. To talk about this book on Clinton. Can I get you back next week, can I get you up early next week.

STONE
Yeah. Yeah, I'd be happy to.

CREDICO
Thank you, this is my initial show, and I really want to thank Roger Stone, a very interesting, controversial figure...the guy who, really, is _the man_, who gave us Donald Trump. Way back, in 2000. First time he ran. Alright, we're going to go to a- Thank you Roger!