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  1. Lesta Nediam LNC2016-03-16 2310 +Joan Evans
  2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nObGH71j3z4&lc=z125ijf4hy2iv1l0423mvzjrdsr1epepv04
  3. https://pastebin.com/wbTxsAgc
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  7. +Joan Evans __ ::sigh:: Oh my, what a joker you continue to prove yourself to be. *Don't pretend as though you don't already know of me.* Have you forgotten posting that stupid video about me to your channel that misrepresented my views on the "ISS"? *I haven't.* It's still on your worthless channel: watch?v=YJ-jK8masKo (you disabled the comments and ratings - how are you not a worthless coward?)
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  12. You pretend as though you're some "random commentator" but *you're not.* If you have forgotten about posting that video then perhaps you're just a puppet account accessed by multiple people. That would make sense given you are at best a useful idiot of the flat Earth disinformation campaign. _Go debate a flattie._
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  17. *We can quickly and easily see just how full of sh!t you are with regard to the "ISS".* I have over the past year collected many purported images of the "ISS". I can show you four images of the alleged "ISS". One of the images is an "official image" and therefore supposed to be "real". The other three are CGI. *Do you feel confident that if you were asked on the spot* (i.e., you had to answer straight away) *that you could pick the correct "official" image from the four?*
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  22. If you don't think that is a fair task then I'll put it into context. I can show you four images of a car - three CGI and one real. Do you think you'd be able to pick which one is the real car? How about the same arrangement with four bikes? Isn't it interesting that purported "photos" and "video" of the alleged "ISS" as seen from Earth with discernible details are indistinguishable from CGI. I'm curious - you believe everyone who claims to have photographed the "ISS", right? Would you also believe someone if they told you they had photographed a yeti? I suppose you would - _after all_ - why would anyone ever lie about such a thing? _That makes no sense!_
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  27. >>>>> *You don't even understand the issue.* <<<<<
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  32. There is NO ONE who disputes that there is a bright light in the sky that whizzes past according to a timetable found online that is consistently referred to as the "ISS". Many people have seen that bright light. NO ONE DOUBTS THAT. What is disputed - _however_ - is different and twofold. 1) There are charlatans who are posting images/footage of the alleged "ISS" *with discernible details* so as to sell cameras, telescopes and "satellite tracking" equipment. They are using CGI models to showcase the "spectacular results" which you can achieve/replicate as well _"if only you buy their equipment"._ They are cashing in on this "conspiracy" nonsense. *Shame on them.* And shame on you for unwittingly supporting and enabling them.
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  37. The second part - which is far more serious than some borderline criminals cashing in on gullible retards like yourself - *is that just because we can see a bright light in the sky DOES NOT MEAN it is also inhabited with stinky little men and women.* Or do you suppose every bright light in the sky is filled with little men and women?!
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  42. *Pay attention dummy:* The only thing that *necessarily proves* (the "sufficient proof") that there exists a permanent micro/zero-gravity environment is if we see *sustained duration* genuine micro/zero-gravity footage *that upon scrutiny remains free from* glaring glitches, clever cuts, sneaky edits and misdirecting pans.
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  47. There are hundreds - if not THOUSANDS - of purported "ISS" videos. From seconds in duration to about an hour in duration. *None of them go for more than a few minutes without glitches, cuts, edits and pans.*
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  52. Don't bother saying to me, "But Lesta - a zero-g plane only lasts for 20-25 seconds therefore if we see more than 30 seconds it proves it must all be real!" That is the most atrocious possible wishful thinking. First of all - none of us know the true zero gravity capability of the world's largest military. I am sure they can achieve more than 25 seconds. Secondly, that position is completely ignorant of elementary "video magic" techniques such as slowing down the f_kcing footage (in imperceptible ways) - _and of course_ - it does not even consider that many briefer clips of genuine zero gravity can be cleverly stitched together so as to form the illusion of a single longer clip.
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  57. If you think that because there are thousands of "ISS" videos where the most we see is fewer than a few minutes before a glitch, cut, edit or pan but because those sections are longer than 30 seconds therefore it must be real then you are too retarded for this topic. A tennis match broadcast on television often contains numerous camera angles and switches but it is easy to find footage of tennis matches from a single fixed camera that lack the kind of glitches, cuts, edits and pans we see with "ISS" footage.
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  62. But I am getting side-tracked and I am mindful that you are not worth my time (I expect that if you do reply you will do so with nonsense so this will be my last significant message to you). There are two reasons for why we see the kind of footage that we see from the "ISS". *The first reason is that there doesn't exist a permanent micro/zero-gravity environment.* If such an environment does not really exist *then it becomes necessary to create the illusion of a permanent zero-g environment by cleverly stitching together briefer segments of genuine zero gravity* and disguising the obvious joins with "masking glitches". These "masking glitches" are made to appear like common/everyday "broadcasting/satellite and compression glitches" *so that spastics like you won't even notice them.* And if your attention is turned to them you will dismiss them as "normal" or "nothing" and you won't recognise their value/importance.
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  67. Keep in mind that just because a retard does not understand the significance of something does not mean it has no significance.
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  72. The second reason - is that there could indeed be a real and manned "ISS" *but what we need to see to justify a belief in it* (the sustained duration zero gravity as outlined) *is intentionally being withheld from us.* And that what we are shown is intentionally crippled so that it can at all times remain doubted. There are good reasons for doing that (and it gets to the core of what I call the "lie system") but I doubt you would understand them so I won't outline them here.
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  77. In the next 10 to 20 minutes "NASA" could film an astronaut doing as many somersaults as is possible in three minutes. Upon seeing such footage it would no longer be possible to doubt there is a genuine permanent zero gravity environment. Such footage - without any glitches, cuts, edits or pans would allow us to finally justify our belief that a permanent micro/zero-gravity environment does exists. After more than 15 years of allegedly manned "space stations" we can reasonably have expected to see such footage by now.
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  82. Even if you were to claim "NASA" would never make such footage then surely one of the alleged "space tourists" would have. If you were to have an opportunity to spend a week aboard the alleged "ISS" then you would be making all kinds of home movies to 1) remember your experience, 2) to do what can only be done in a permanent zero gravity environment. Filming a ball spinning in the air for a few minutes may be one of those things you do. Spinning an object like a fork or a spoon. Doing somersaults. Any of those things - for a sustained period of time - can reasonably be expected to have been filmed. And after 15+ years we would expect to be aware of at least one such clip.
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  87. *That's what this is all about you meddling and time-wasting fool.*
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  92. We can - after 15+ years - *conclude that IF it is possible to film such footage THEN it is being intentionally withheld.* And that seems to be the case. If the "ISS" is real and manned then what we need to see to justify a belief in it is being withheld. It is this withholding of sufficient proof that causes there to be "conspiracy theorists" in the first place (because they incorrectly conclude _"if it could be proven they would - it hasn't been proven therefore it's fake"_). It is also the very reason your stupid little flat Earth disinformation campaign even has legs. *Because none of us were shown a genuine image of the Earth from space when we were children.* Our very belief in the shape of the Earth - which is a core and fundamental belief (even if accurate/true) - had been founded and formed on trust and accepting/mistaking proof's appearances for proof.
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  97. It is by doing things in this way that sets us up to accepting falsehoods as truths. And we are vulnerable to accepting falsehoods from those we find charming (so it is no surprise the lie system has a monopoly on all the most charming story tellers).
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  102. *All of this is lost on you because you're a spastic little troublemaker and time-waster.*
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  107. If you want to talk sh!t to me about the "ISS" then make sure you first understand the issues. If you want to continue talking then you will need to find me 10 minutes of "ISS" footage *that does not contain any glitches, cuts, edits or pans.* Don't bother citing any of the purported "ISS tours" - I have seen them all. *They are all filled with glitches, cuts, edits and pans.* If you think that they don't *it is only because you are stupid and unobservant and haven't noticed what is right in front of you.*
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  112. I am not like anyone else here so don't bother trying to lump me in with anyone else. Stop getting in my way. You are slowing down my progress here. Until you get out of my way you are a part of the problem and must be treated as one of the enemy.
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  117. *You have come to me with no idea what the actual issues are.* You have no clue what is going on. You have no understanding as to what I am all about. *You are presenting yourself to me as a pest who is - _at best_ - a useful idiot of the flat Earth disinformation campaign.*
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  122. So as I remarked at the top - *go and debate a flattie* - you time-wasting worthless spastic. _(edited for an inevitable typo)_
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  134. __________________________________________
  135. Here is an annotated text file with links to all of Lesta Nediam's posts, comments, videos and discussions:
  136. https://pastebin.com/Bfr5RMSg
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  138. Here is Lesta Nediam's Google Plus posts (i.e., blog) - this is where Lesta is most active:
  139. https://plus.google.com/+LestaNediamHQ
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  141. Here is an annotated text file with links to all of Lesta Nediam's video uploads:
  142. https://pastebin.com/WV42jUb1
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  144. Here is Lesta Nediam's YouTube channel - for videos about the lie system:
  145. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3DalBOEZ6RqSyHk8_mGV7w
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