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- 11/19/17, 1:37 AM
- Hey man, i was wondering where i could get one of your t-shirts?
- from where you know i made a t shirt? you can se on instagram @gamafineart. i make one art for one t shirt and original art work for mee ๐
- i could see your tshirts on instagram and on facebook.
- thank you, I made it PO, because I have to make the drawing first because one shirt one picture, so what image do you want?
- i draw with my style painting ๐
- well, first i'd like to know the price ๐ to see if i can even afford it. im just a poor student after all xD
- for my friend, the price is up to you, but the postage is quite expensve from my country s
- whats the postage to denmark from indonesia?
- cheapest about $ 15 for a 15 day trip. you should invite your friends so that the cost of shipping sparingly
- I don't know anyone else from Denmark that knows of your t-shirts, and you say its your friends that decide the price... if you tell me anyone else from Denmark that want to order your tshirts though, do tell me.
- ready my friend, I have never sent to dermark, new to USA, Ceub republick, ukraine, and Slovakia. there was once a collector of my shirt from the USA he wanted a quick delivery, it cost $ 30, it was too expensive to ask me. but he will
- well that's better, I agree, but with the condition of your artificial pipe
- my artificial pipe?
- this one?
- yes sure, would not that be our witness befriend, you have my t shirt and litle artwork and i have you pipe
- is that your first artificial pipe?
- Ah. im sorry. i can't give that away. i've already promised it to another friend...
- yes, thats my first pipe.
- what do you mean when you say artificial though?
- no problem will it be waiting for your new artificial pipe if you want, will not that be a promotion too, and next February there will be a pipe fairs in my country and you will display your pipe works
- Alright. i will make a pipe for you.
- you will not display your first pipe
- I can't. I've already promised to sell it to another friend ๐
- that's cool, so what image theme do you want on the shirt?
- I want you to decide ๐
- i like all of your designs, theres no way i could chose between them.
- oh so, no problem because you can make it back
- And i'll start working on your pipe once ive gotten a drillbit for the tobaccochamber.
- you already have your pipe logo? What if I respond to it on shirt?
- That would be amazing.
- make a monster with your character my friend
- i will make a artificial monster pipe for you! ๐
- i already have a design in mind.
- ok I'll make some of you, and then you choose which one will be made in shirt
- Thank you!
- I cannot wait to see the result
- good mee to i cant wait ypu pipe monster ๐
- you are my second friend who do barter, this is very pleasing to me from the sale and purchase transaction. until now we are good friends
- https://youtu.be/otig8XXt1wQ
- this my friend barter with mee
- and if you pipe go to my home i make vidio to for you ๐
- Thats generous! I will most likely start on the monster next week or the week after that. but i promise you it will be nothing like what youve ever seen before.. i'd love to collaborate with you on a pipe too in the future... maybe where i make the basic form, and you then paint it... or something like that.
- that's cool, I'm so excited, it's going to be a colabore that will destroy the world ๐, let's make our friends make monster
- Yes!!! ๐
- if later groub artisan pipe is big, we make like a briar nation, we are young and we are dangerous
- Yes! ๐๐
- The New Generation of Pipemakers!
- it's you my friend, and if you'll be a maistro soon, I'll tell everyone it's my best friend,
- youre a maestro already though, so if anyone asks where i got the shirt, ill tell its you my friend. and you will be known in denmark too. I have many art friends here too. so that should only be good ๐
- I am so excited to work with you and cant wait to get really starte3d
- cool I'm very happy to be friends with you,
- started*
- likewise ๐
- me too, i can not wait for big artisan pipe, for in your country later, if pipe smoker country you want path art of pipe, he buy to you. it looks like I'm going to pick you up to be a moderator in groub ๐
- Thats so cool man! And if you ever come to denmark, be sure to let me know! There actually is the denmarks championship in pipesmoking at march the 18th. in copenhagen, you should totally come!
- nice pipe!
- some day we make path and pipe smoker will collect it
- i hope so!
- this pipe briar nation edition
- and some day you make art of pipe edition ๐
- yes. of course!
- someday, it's very far, this year I want to continue the school migister,
- Yeah. thats understandable, im starting on some school too soon.
- until now your are moderator on Art Of Pipes ๐
- Thats great! thank you so much, i will not let you down my friend!
- we are equally young, and will be the successors
- Really? Are you also 19?
- your welcome my friend, let us work together
- i am 23 year old my friend ๐
- oh, youre old then!
- xD
- I envy you, young and can make cool pipes
- hahaha we different little
- I envy you, you seem to have your life all planned out.
- + you make so amazing art, its incredible.
- hahahaha not too, i'm more, happy to have mission like in game
- lol
- oh damn, is that official?
- thank my brotha
- it is now again the process of correction by their side, I am very big heart can be in use by them
- thats fucking amazing dude!
- some day if you make tobbaco to i want make artwork for you tobbaco,
- Hahaha! that would be cool!
- or cover your pipe packaging?
- I would be stoked for that!
- i am in need of some boxes for my pipes at some point.
- and bags too for the pipes.
- i was originally gonna go for something a bit colorful and all, but if you could make those bags that'd be amazing too. i figure it wouldnt be so hard seeing how you already know how to make art on tshirts...
- make packaging like this, and if you want print my artwork on cover ๐
- i was thinking woodenboxes instead of cardboardboxes. but do you think you'd be able to make small bags for my pipes?
- I need to know the size of your pipe packaging ๐
- https://www.instagram.com/p/BZ_EqfIgWPG/?taken-by=thomsen5045 do you think youd be able to make bags like these for my pipes? just with your artwork and my logo on instead?
- the wooden box will be cool, pipe bag, ok ok, very can, is it in your country there is a printed cloth or canvas print?
- probably. I don't know where i would do it though...
- it will save you money, than I send from here.
- or maybe ill just have to get a tonne of bags all at once?
- you have to find it, you will need a lot later, but I will try to make one later and I will send the same shirt.
- see later in the future, we make some version every year later ๐
- lets just take one pipebatch at a time xD
- ok ok, do you have size for that?
- a size for what?
- pipebatch
- nah not yet, but i think itll be stubbys.
- when i say pipebatch i mean a group of pipes. like 2 pipes or 8 pipes
- im thinking i want to make a series on this design
- I have not been able to pattern it yet, but soon it will be i try
- maybe 4-5 pipes in this design that i then send to you, so you can put color on it.
- I do not know what paint for pipes, do you know?
- monster pipe, coll
- fiebings leather dye or ROC Narvsvรฆrte
- cool!
- I'll find it here
- http://vermontfreehand.com/product/fiebing/
- for you, but i dont have ring on bottom tampers
- That doesnt matter, the still look amazing as frick
- I've already planned on making a pipe bag, but I have not found a tailor that makes it
- this my deaain pipebag
- thats cool. i know how to sew bags. so that wont be a problem.
- i just need to figure out where i can print on fabric.
- you must give the iron under it, because otherwise it will not run out by the embers
- it's cool, I have some design for it
- holy!
- i want make like this, but cover with my artwork
- i dont know if i would be able to make that
- i print it on canvas size 23x58 cm
- this week I'm going to get around tailors
- i cant wait to hear what you find out then! you just gotta make sure you dont use plastic on it the. cause that kind of ruins your designs.
- wait me ๐, of course we have to make with durable material
- but if you find out a way to make your designs on them, you should send some to me too, cause in 2018 im going to some art convention fair where ill be selling pipes, and i can showcase your pipebag too.
- and maybe sell some aswell.
- (all profits would go to you of course...)
- ok ok, as soon as i will find it
- i cant wait to work with you, im so excited!
- I'll tell you later
- https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/23675105_1973271939366264_240092591541258836_o.jpg?oh=fbfe847f6dcf82119dcf92016d7e8721&oe=5AABF7B3 can you send me the layout for this image, so i can post pictures too of other pipemakers...?
- 11/19/17, 4:55 AM
- ok my friend sure, Which photo do you want? later afternoon when I was home ok, I had planned it ๐
- Well just the overlay. i have photoshop, so i can put pictures together aswell,
- Also, i decided to replicate this design https://www.facebook.com/IsakowitchPipes/posts/132130284154647?ref=aymt_homepage_panel into a group of 5 other pipes. theyre really lightweight, and really amazing...
- ok ok, it will be much nicer, but for you i should make that and i post ๐, my plan will make digital magazine 100 pipe maker on Art of pipe
- Thats cool!
- ok ok, anyway today i will post my friend ๐ soon
- later we continue to talk again ok,
- Yea. im probably going to bed in half an hour.
- its 5am in denmark right now. so i should probably get some sleep ๐
- ill be awake in approximately 10 hours.
- ok ok, happy to rest my friend
- Thanks!
- 11/19/17, 3:33 PM
- Hey man, i just woke up, how's it going?
- wait me my friend
- im waiting ๐
- you can corel draw?
- i dont know what that is...
- oh. nope i cant
- i have photoshop and adobe illustrator though.
- did you talk to any tailors?
- hello my friend, not yet because this day tailors close, but tommorow i try
- Ah okay. I hope it works out!
- you with we groub? for to make people more active
- I'm not sure i understand?
- we make groub art of pipes more fun, you have plan?
- I was thinking we could do some giveaways perhaps...
- I don't have a lot to give away right now. however i will have something soon.
- we will do it, so that later your artificial pipe become icon in groub
- i find thus, it crazy desain, a see a monster
- "If you are a pipesmoker, post your photo with a pipe in it, and make a post on Instagram with the tag #artofopipes
- If you are a pipemaker, make a post on Instagram with the tag #artisanpipes.
- If you are a pipemaker and a pipesmoker oist your pipe work, and a photo with you and a pipe, and link to your Instagram and post with the tags #artisanpipes and #artofpipes.
- Enjoy and Happy Puffings!"
- i corrected the grammar, in the main post somewhat
- Lol thanks, i still dont know how ill make it.
- can you make/post that rules in group right now?
- Do you want me to write the rules?
- I don't think i can do that unless im an Admin aswell...
- but i'm sure someday you will have an idea to make that
- ofcourse, cause you are admin too in that group
- oh ya i forget you are a moderate in that group. as soon as possible i will find one adult person to be a moderate, and you will be an admin
- Okay dokes, why do you need a moderator ?
- cause i think we need one adult person for welcoming adult people in group, to make them more comfort to talk
- xD
- that might be true
- cause i think we are the dangerous teenagers hahaha
- True!
- the youngsters...
- Maybe make a post asking if anyone would like the role? Preferably someone with good grammar.
- sometime adult people not understand about who we are or like what we think. and just adult people to make them understand
- Yes. o thoml ypu are roght
- Yes. I think you're right*
- that's so many people want to be a moderator in this group. but i know they are want get something from that. and i just want someone who enjoy do this, not to get something
- just like you
- AWww. you flatter me!
- there's so many people who chat me, they envy and jealous about you.
- Really? Show me! ๐ฎ
- do not be them from turkey,
- hahaha
- I can't imagine anyone being jealous of me.
- you want make make art of pipe smoker Instagram?
- I don't think that would be a good idea.
- I'm bad enough with my own instagram.
- for post like that
- hahah i can seee
- my friend i have some think for you
- i hope you like
- Oh?
- wait a minite
- what you name brand Pipes?
- Isakowitch Pipes
- what do you think about this?
- i already have made one ๐
- but thank you
- hahah its cool
- match your pipe style
- on pogres
- I'm sorry if I do not speak, I'm looking for a picture that deserves you, and it's late I'm a bit sleppy ๐
- no worries
- what time on dermark
- 17:34
- what time is it in Bandung, Indonesia?
- 11/20/17, 1:42 PM
- Is that printable on pipebags too?
- we print? what's your friend's dress size?
- My Friend?
- My own dress size is XL
- I can not, but I did not get a tailor yet, this day I go around, they do not want to make a small amount
- no no i mean you, you = my friend
- Yea i talked to someone aswell. If i need pipebags i need to order atleast 1000
- And that would cost me 1100 dollars
- My dress size is XL
- 1000 pcs??
- Yea. They wont make the order unless i buy 1000
- the cost of that segment will not be enough to sew 1000pcs not to mention the ingredients
- except as it was behind it
- i make pipe bag like this eith you logo
- i try to desain
- if like it, it's cheap
- Can you rotate the pipe 90 degrees?
- that's just me input to printing ๐ข, do I have to make again?
- Just rotate the design. ๐
- i try wait mer
- like this?
- Yea. Just so its long across the pipe bag
- for pipe bag like this?
- Yes
- Exactly
- oke ok ok, wait 3 more days, i will sew your clothes and pipe bag
- 11/21/17, 5:56 PM
- I've just started going to school yesterday, so that's why i havnt really been able to make pipes. However, tomorrow hopefilly i will be able to mkae a pipe or two. And in the weekend ill be making a monster pipe
- no matter brother, solve the more important thing first,
- Thanks!
- your wellcome brotha ๐ช
- this is the pipe i will be making for the giveaway contest...
- really monster
- good imajination brotha
- i cant wait to see finish
- Yes, the sea cork. and i will be making another one for you for the tshirt. I just havnt fully decided yet what i want to make for you. Because it have to be a MONSTER!
- hahaha, I'm sure there's a strong potential in you being a true pipe maker. I've smelled it in the future, keep the spirit brotha
- I have to make a good video later, to show off to the world, there is a monster born from my friend
- That'd be cool!
- 11/22/17, 6:41 PM
- my friend, should we make the path for the group?
- the path?
- Do you mean rules?
- most pipe smokers want to collect paths
- oh
- i dont know how to make paths
- Indonesia is too far and expensive postage to europe, maybe from your country it will be much cheaper,
- Sure, i just dont know how...
- you just give it to the embroidery, then we will sell and the result we share for two. or do we need a modertor to take that?
- I'll raise you to be an admin, but we need someone who can create a website, as a moderator, any suggestions?
- I gotta be honest, i have no idea who could be a moderator...
- Or shall we see for a while longer? if we have a website you can sell your pipe there, it will help us
- the most important thing we have to look for the person who enters with us,
- I want to help so many who order your artificial pipe.
- Patrick Mckiddy or Robert Bailey might be interested in being a moderator...
- let's see them both for the next few days
- one more mike roger, we see the three of them, What do you think?
- Good idea
- ๐ I will always ask for your load, and will try to get closer to
- 11/23/17, 12:02 PM
- brother can you vidio proces make pipe? i think it good
- I want you in the future to be a famous pipe maker
- 11/23/17, 3:50 PM
- I want to be a famous pipemaker too, but i dont want to video process the making of my pipes to be honest.
- yes yes and i your friend
- and im yours, brotha.
- 11/24/17, 5:42 AM
- 11/24/17, 11:23 PM
- Hey brother, i was just wondering how long you are with the tshirt and pipebag? I've been thinking of rebranding myself, and make the "Isakowitch Pipes" a subbrand of my brand, so that Isakowitch Pipes is the brand i brand all my monster pipes, and then i will have a more Danish name for my main pipes. In the manner that only my best monster pipes get the Isakowitch stamp, and my less attractive pipes get another brand... I'm currently working on a grading system within those terms...
- your clothes are done, for pipe bag printed yesterday today one wrong. I'll probably send it to the dermark in three days
- Ah great! What do you think about the re-branding? A friend i know suggested it, and that i would get more noticed if my name were more danish.
- great idea, now you must have a special instagram account for your artificial pipe
- You should sample alex brishuta for publication of her pipe. I will always promote you on instagram
- Yes, that will most likely be my isakkowitchh account ill use for my artificial pipes
- and i think you need make etsi account
- what do you mean with "sample"
- https://isak44.wixsite.com/isakowitchpipes i already have a website for when i have enough pipes so that i can sell...
- delete all photos besides your artificial pipe, it will help the consumer
- is that what you meant by sample?
- yes yes greeat ๐
- Great! I'll get to that soon...
- trust me my friend, now sales happen to instagram and youtube, you have to neatly use it
- Yes. I need to make the pipes first though, before i can sell them.
- Have you sold a lot of T-Shirts via Instagram?
- and you must create a certificate of authenticity of your pipe. it will have a big impact in the future
- sure, I can not wait to see it. many monsters will be born
- Many monsters indeed.
- 80% of my clothes are sold on instagram
- i bought these mouthpiece materials.
- they will go into my 8 pipe series.
- crazy, it's a cool choice, a cool stem. be careful you should make a nice photo with your pipe
- yea. and ive been looking into getting glow in the dark powder, so my pipes can glow in the dark too.
- Your pipeline is in fact good, but sometimes photos can make people more interested
- Yea. I'm not too good with taking fotos, but i will get better.
- do not forget to make your name stamp on the pipe,
- Yes. but i still need to buy a stamp for that.
- try photos with a white background
- I was thinking of a black background, to get the colors out. but that might just be a hunch,
- be careful with black, because your pipe is a monster
- white = luxury
- I am a lucky person to know you, I see great talent from you
- It is i that are lucky to know you. You truly are talented, and i know we're going to make amazing content together..
- sure, if i'm a place with you i'd love to help make photos and make your process vidio.
- That could be fun. I don't know when that would be though, seeing how i can't afford going to Indonesia xD
- hahaha not to Indonesia, if I can I will not want to live in Indonesia
- art appreciation is very bad in my country
- Where do you want to live?
- I want to live in Europe, wherever the country is. but I can not afford to leave my family
- Oh. because they need you, or because you need them?
- You know my real job here is just a cafe keeper
- Either way, i know for a fact that art appreciation is great in Denmark, but theres very much competition. The United Kingdom would probably be suitable.
- i didnt know that actually.
- because I love my parents, they will not let me go
- I thought you lived off of your art. however, you can definitely make it work in most EU contries, however not without multiple jobs unless you are recognized by some big company
- yes of course, because the art of living in europe. I will be very far behind. sometime I want to work in your country
- I think they would understand if it is what you truly want. You just have to promise to visit them every now and then. and then dont be afraid to take that step. thats my own biggest problem, being afraid to take the step
- art is my hobby, I want to work in art, but it's hard. so I can not rely on art to live
- Yes, that is true. but I believe you are bolder than me.
- You're right, its hard to rely on art for a living.
- someday we will meet. while burning tobacco on your artificial monster
- And wearing nothing but your clothes.
- hahah sure ๐๐.
- what your hobby my friend?
- my only real hobbies lies in pipesmoking, pipemaking and 3D-Modeling
- haha yes i can see on youtube, it great
- mmm brotha ypu can help me?
- Depends on what you need help with ๐
- I need some pictures of a shirt with a woman there. do you have a good woman close friend look at?
- Sure i have a few, i could ask some of them if you want me to?
- I will also send one more dress for the woman
- What dress is it you want on the woman?
- if you send me a picture, i will ask some friends ๐
- great, may i see instagramnya?
- i mean t shirt like i make for you
- same design?
- no no different designs, but he can not choose his design
- one art one t shirt ๐
- Yes yes i know, but i need to send something to my friend, so they can decide whether theyll be willing to help you :-9
- I will send along with your package later. and his clothes for him.
- https://www.instagram.com/soffioki/ this is one of my friends that might want to help.
- But i would have to ask her first.
- guess what the size of her t shirt?
- As i said, ill have to ask her first, but if you send me a picture of what design you want to put on her tshirt, ill ask her.
- one of these.
- okay, ill ask her.
- just say it's a gift from you. I just need a photo of him wearing my t shirt made
- Yea. ive asked her. ill answer you when i have her answer ๐
- or for your female cousin, or your sister can too
- Sure, ill wait for my friend to answer first though, because if she writes yes, and ive also written to my sister and she writes yes too, i couldnt possibly chose between the two.
- hahahaa ok ok my friend, thank you very much ๐
- No problem! ๐
- to day we can see your pipe bag
- i cant wait! ๐๐
- hahahh me to my friend
- 11/25/17, 11:39 AM
- less high and the rope is not good, if you so order a lot I will add ringginya and change the rope
- 11/25/17, 3:17 PM
- what do you think about it brota?
- It's pretty freaking cool!
- I'll send it along with my clothes as an example first
- Sure. my friend hasnt answered yet. however, i will ask my sister in an hour or two if she's up to it. she used to be a model too.
- no problem, I trust you, I just need a photo of women outside my country. because all the clothes I wear men
- Why cant you get any women from your country to wear your tshirts? ๐
- they are not good to see, haahaha i like eroupe girls
- 11/25/17, 5:58 PM
- She agreed
- she's a size S or XS
- 11/25/17, 7:43 PM
- yea, shes size Small. and shes definitely up for it!
- 11/26/17, 12:10 AM
- Do you think you could make up a pattern for my card of authentication? and send to me in a .psd or a .png
- 11/26/17, 7:23 AM
- S eorpe?
- of course, write the word that should be in the certificate, I'm the design
- 11/26/17, 1:04 PM
- there should be no words, just the pattern, and yes Small Europe.
- ok ok, paper size? I do not do what? I have to work over two days
- i just need a pattern. pattern size doesnt matter ๐ if you just make it in HD res. it should work
- 11/27/17, 1:16 PM
- you have new logo for you new brand pipe?
- Nope. not yet.
- But i think i shouldnt stress it, and i might have found someone able to make pipebags.
- I need it for a certificate, so I can adjust the concept. and I ask for your full address
- oh yaa? that sounds good
- Well it shouldnt be anything super complicated, it should just be a sun and then some text saying Immanuel Pipes - Handmade in Denmark
- also, my full adress is รsttoften 5, 8250 Aarhus, Denmark.
- later I'll try to help for that my friend
- and phone number
- (+45) 29 87 44 45
- +45 is the country code. do you need email aswell?
- may be i need it my friend
- Redbiirdy@gmail.com
- 11/30/17, 8:19 PM
- wait your t shirt my friend, ๐
- i sick now
- Aww that's not good D: get better soon!
- i send two
- with you girls friend wkwkwkw
- That's great though. She cant wait. And neither can I!
- haha, on your country snow come now?
- ๐
- 1
- Which one did you send for her?
- No. It rarely snows in Denmark
- it suprize ๐๐๐๐
- wkwwk
- 11/30/17, 10:39 PM
- Well she cant wait either!
- 12/1/17, 1:41 PM
- haha i give the beatle
- Im gonna make a pipe for you when I get home
- because it's that, there's a small size, another big size
- monster
- monster
- monster bent
- Yes!
- With tentacles and stuff
- And its gonna glow in the dark
- i cant wait ๐๐๐
- monster
- already a lot of new doub members, I'll edit them some
- Benny Thomsen is a pipemaker.
- Hes a good Friend of mine so that's how I know
- benny thomson? you friend?
- Yes. I have worked on some pipes with him.
- Benny Thomsen.
- woow it coll pipe elegant
- do you think I can make a logo for him.
- He already has a logo. But if you mean on t-shirt. Just send him a message and ask him
- let's try, but i think in the future you will be more than him
- Maybe. But it isn't a competition
- haaha yes yes yes ๐, you good people, fellow pipe maker you made, friend, I like your style.
- 12/1/17, 6:04 PM
- my friwnd what do you think moderator mike jones?
- Sounds good to me!
- we want help we
- 12/2/17, 12:49 AM
- did you just write something? I cant see it.
- yes my friend ๐
- now i see it
- monster monster monster i can see litle ๐,
- correct ๐ i just need to make 7 more of the little. ๐
- your not slep?
- my sleeping schedule is all fucked up.
- i sleep later.
- 7 ? is it a lot of ordering?
- its gonna be a series of 8 pipes with the same design more or less..
- hahaha me too, but keep the diet, so as not to hurt
- lol, im way beyond that. I am taking morphine because i cant sleep.
- make vidio process for youtube
- imsonia?
- no. Blood vessel infection
- can it heal?
- in theory yes. ive just had it for 3 years.
- keep my friend's health, so we can enjoy tobacco with the monster
- im not gonna die from it. its just a pain.
- ๐
- 1
- the pain will interfere with your activities, but I'm sure you'll be strong man
- Thats why i have morphine xD
- 12/4/17, 12:38 PM
- you pack send my friend
- awesome! i cant wait!
- I've gotten teflon material for stems, and almost ready to make the stem, for your pipe... Once ive gotten all the materials and drills with the mail, ill start on your pipe. the one you saw on my page, ive decided to use for something else, its not good enough quality for you. The one for you should be in perfect condition... it might take a month, however, i will make a pipe amazing and worthy of your company.
- ๐
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- 12/4/17, 2:21 PM
- of course I trust you, I want to see full bent version. not the most important thing make something you are satisfied my friend
- Im not sure its gonna be Bent
- hahaha a heart later I just want to see
- 12/4/17, 6:26 PM
- i figured out how to drill properly, so one of these 4 pipes will become yours.
- 12/4/17, 10:08 PM
- hohoho spirit of monster
- 12/5/17, 12:33 AM
- beautiful!
- i work until morning and not sleep
- damn, get some sleep!
- i just woke up a few hours ago, however, i think imma go to sleep again soon.
- yes i am so sleppy now like zombie
- 12/11/17, 5:02 PM
- Hey Irnal, im just waiting for some bits for my dremel, but once i get those i should finally be able to start on your monster pipe ๐
- 12/11/17, 10:13 PM
- coll, take your time my friend
- 12/12/17, 9:46 AM
- my friend you use natilus for use your self?
- i want to if you use to, for wr freindship
- I can if you want me to ๐
- But it's gonna have to be a new one. Seeing the one you saw were misdrilled and the stem glued together
- hahah I'm curious, the most important thing I want to be with you. as a sign of our friendship
- As a sign of our friendship I couldnt possibly bring myself to send you a pipe that had been drilled imperfectly
- hahaha, and I want your signature.
- it will be my reliable pipeline
- Hopefully yes
- 12/12/17, 11:34 AM
- i cant wait hehee
- neither can i.
- hahaha ok ok
- 12/25/17, 8:12 AM
- it seems like making a pipe for barter is a burden to you, and I'm not feeling good about it. For now you do not have to make it for me. Let's just say it's a gift from me, and it's the first time that it's going through my perjury with someone else. sobs
- 12/25/17, 10:14 AM
- That is not the case. Im just busy with other stuff too. And i cant work on it all the time
- not a friend problem, because that you do not feel annoyed, it would be nice to forget about it. and focus on your work
- youre right. its a burden to me as it is right now. the fact is that either im depressed or have abstinence from the pain killers i was given to cope with my feet. i feel so unmotivated to make pipes for the time being. i feel so unmotivated to do anything right now, and you have no idea how much its killing me. As soon as i get my motivation back, ill make your pipe. i dont know when thatll be, but i hope its gonna be soon, because i hate not being able to do what i love.
- i hope you understand that it doesnt have anything to do with you in particular, but its broader to the fact that i cant make pipes very well right now in general.
- 12/25/17, 11:55 AM
- because I say you focus on more important things first, I do not want to be a burden on others
- calm down, I will not question that
- 12/25/17, 1:40 PM
- i just dont want to appear like an asshole to you.
- 12/25/17, 2:58 PM
- never my friend, I'm not a person who likes to break friendship sekrang enjoy your Christmas holiday.
- 12/25/17, 9:20 PM
- i got this for christmas
- theres some red coloring with that, so im thinking about a red and black monster pipe with some of those materials...
- as i said, ive just stopped taking morphine lately though, so i have abstinences that makes me less motivated to make pipes in general. and its really frustrating if you get me, cause i still want to make pipes, i just feel like i have no energy or motivation for it...
- do you understand?
- nice my friend
- you need to stabilize the mind, preferably enjoy the new year's eve a few more days. ok
- yeah. i have a few more christmas holiday events im going to. but soon i can relax.
- well it should be, do not miss it. follow that beautiful show with joy
- 12/28/17, 9:05 PM
- are you going to sweden? ๐ฎ
- hi brotha
- hahaha, I tried to enroll in college but, in fact, have to pay big enough money. in your country there is master fine art scholarship? for indonesia?
- i dont know, but if you live in denmark you get paid to go to school...
- I want to fly to europe, now I try to list school to country country there
- what about your parents?
- I live different island with family. already 7 years I live alone
- then take off as soon as you can! ๐
- i just dont know anything about scholarships...
- I am looking for student fees for next year, hopefully there will be full funding
- how are you now?
- well, the abstinences i had are slowly fading... im just waiting for the new year to pass, before i get too much into pipemaking again.
- yes repeat the rest, and enjoy the holiday times,
- i really hope youre able to get a full scholarship!
- thank my friend, i want to try scholarship on dermark to
- 12/29/17, 7:31 PM
- brotha can you help me for make word for someone participation for make artwork with Them Art Of Pipes
- Elaborate?
- 12/29/17, 9:12 PM
- yes I'm afraid of the wrong word, I want to give a certificate to an artist who has responded to art of pipes
- Sure. Explain what you want to write
- i want write thank to participation for artwork art of pipes, but i want make long write
- Ill write to you when I get home in a hour
- ok ok brotha, thx you ๐
- okay, so just to get this straight: you want to write a appreciation letter, for participating in making some artwork for the facebook group: "Art of Pipes"? And you want it to be a long message?
- 12/30/17, 7:57 AM
- yes my friend, because at the time of writing on the certificate it is too short
- 12/31/17, 12:57 AM
- i think im gonna need a bit more information... what did they do, who are they... stuff like that...
- 12/31/17, 8:20 AM
- he make like this
- he is artsits
- 12/31/17, 3:41 PM
- This certificate of achievement proves the validity of grattitude shown towards the effort that the individual who has receiven this certificate will gain from the leading board of Art of Pipes. Thank you wholeheartedly and in full, for your support and your proper effort, in creating artwork for Art of Pipes! Keep on working, and best of luck in the future.
- ahaha ok ok thnk my friend, now i ready to corect ๐
- JAN 1, 2018, 1:07 AM
- I pray you and your family are always given the best. hopefully in 2018 is a lot of good stories for us to go through. donr stop make amazing pipes, chers my friend from Dermark
- cheers irnal. i hope you and yours will have an absolutely excellent year of 2018. and i hope you get to travel to scandinavia as a matter thereof.
- ๐ ๐๐๐ good slep my friend
- thank you very much, same to you!
- your wellcome brota
- And i promise you that i will make a pipe for you in 2018.
- thank you my friend ๐๐
- thank you for your patience
- hahah your wellcome brota, take time for slepp brotha ๐
- JAN 8, 2018, 5:39 PM
- can you send me you logo PNG format ,? for ipsd preparation
- ipsd?
- wait what?
- yes sure i want make poster Internasional Pipe Smoke
- https://imgur.com/a/RA6fg here they are, both black and white version and a black version with a transparent background...
- ok ok โบ
- if by the 20th of February the monster had arrived, I wanted to show the exhibition. insert some business cards
- what exhibition?
- IPSD brotha, the pipe smoke event gathered once a year in my country
- JAN 18, 2018, 10:12 PM
- JAN 22, 2018, 4:12 PM
- https://imgur.com/ScixUv0
- heres the logo png, can you make it look more like this, stroke wise?? https://gyazo.com/2e1709edbed5262e414ce1e00a4069b7
- ok ok my friend, on home i edit, yea sure
- I'll make some
- thanks, cause then i can order my pipestamp ๐ and you will get a real 100% authentic Immanuel pipe
- ahaahah it coll , Do you have a business card? I will disseminate
- no i dont have business card as of just yet... but i need some soon.
- I'll just make it, and I'll print it to share it here
- show some pictures before you decide on the final? that way i can print them myself aswell.
- link number two cant open, can you screnahot dor link number 2
- of course, I have to get permission from his own
- this one?
- whay you want for baground colour?
- Light blue or Cyan ๐
- ok ok , wait me ok
- yes of course
- youre my hero man!
- JAN 22, 2018, 6:00 PM
- hahah ๐
- JAN 22, 2018, 8:46 PM
- hows it going?
- has improved, 3 days ago my house that was occupied by fire.
- there was a fire?! ๐ฎ
- now i go to hom, and i try modificate you clasic logo
- everything is up. my parents are a little troma. but now it's hard to get better
- im so sorry this happened to you.
- no problem my friend, I must go forward and fight
- JAN 23, 2018, 10:18 PM
- did it work out?
- JAN 24, 2018, 1:31 AM
- I am a little bigung, what is the logo re-modification. or just edit the existing logo
- JAN 24, 2018, 4:23 AM
- like this brotha?
- JAN 25, 2018, 8:08 PM
- im so sorry, i saw your reply, and then totally forgot about it... no, what im asking is if you can make it look like it was drawn in hand. like with more loose strokes. almost like a brush was used... you know where the brush stroke is getting thinner and thicker in different parts of the lines depending on how much pressure you put on it... so it has a more artistic feel to it...
- JAN 26, 2018, 10:30 PM
- Hey, how are you doing?
- JAN 27, 2018, 9:28 AM
- i so sory isac, on two weks i have long trip. i dont have money now, so i driver
- JAN 27, 2018, 11:43 AM
- Hey man, what are you sorry for? I was just asking how you were doing ๐
- JAN 27, 2018, 2:25 PM
- JAN 31, 2018, 3:07 PM
- hallo sob, sorry I'm late to reply, I'm on my way to my hometown. this is the 4th day, there are 2 more days. I ride from car to car, and sleep on the street
- Sleep on the street? What happened?
- yes no problem, I have to save money for the construction of a house that fires yesterday
- how are you my friend?
- im good, but nevermind about me, isnt it dangerous to sleep on the street?
- good, hahaha no one would dare to come closer to see my appearance
- i hope thats true.
- this is a very fun friend. How many cool pipes have been born recently?
- these four
- and im working on one more...
- it true my friend good intentions will meet good people
- i just ordered more briar for pipemaking...
- wow coll, how much more do you have to do?
- what do you mean?
- I can not wait to see you in the next few years. there is always a good improvement on your artificial pipe
- would not you show off your pipe there?
- What?
- in the group?
- no no in dermark
- oh
- i am in march
- 2 mont,
- well actually 1 month and 18 days
- let's get excited
- make vidip process make pipe for youtobe chanel
- FEB 4, 2018, 6:59 PM
- Hey irnal, was thinking if you still want to make a tobacco pouch, what you could do was have it be leather on the outside, and your designs on the inside? also, im sorry but i doubt ill be able to make a monster for you in time for the indonesian pipe exhibition, right now im focusing a lot on making classic boring pipes, for the pipeshow in denmark in march. but after that hopefully i will get to it. i promise you will get your monster within this year atleast. ๐ I'm sorry, i dont mean to fool you or anything, but im just still in such a big learning state.
- FEB 6, 2018, 12:57 AM
- what will happen to her pocket later?
- MAR 10, 2018, 6:10 PM
- what is pipe parade?
- MAR 11, 2018, 7:27 AM
- MAR 11, 2018, 6:19 PM
- how does one become member?
- MAR 11, 2018, 10:36 PM
- you can DM pipeparade, and send foto selfie with pipe. for path, t shirt he sell for mamber only
- thanks irnal. soon i can start working on the monster pipe, and i finally have a design in mind for it. it will truly be a monster pipe, one of a kind!
- thanks my friend, my sorry my final end of the internet is rarely active, because I have a social mission to tribe depth in my country.
- no worries man, is there somewhere i can send the pipe once im done with it?
- of course, there is my friend who keep my rented house. I was far behind in the art of pipe, but soon I pursue. pipe parade is a cool community I think
- oh great. would suck if i couldnt send it to you. have you heard from any of the art schools about a stipendium?
- oh great. would suck if i couldnt send it to you. have you heard from any of the art schools about a stipendium?
- yeah. i just wrote that
- I'm so glad, thank you friends. never, is there any chance for me in your country friend?
- i dont know for sure, but i think there are a few art schools specificatlly for your case.
- MAR 12, 2018, 5:52 AM
- hopefully there, I'll find the info later thx my friend
- MAR 25, 2018, 12:04 PM
- hello sob whether you have a church pipe
- MAR 25, 2018, 10:13 PM
- im sorry, what?
- like this long stem
- churchwarden i mean
- i dont have one. why?
- i want to try it, if i make painting
- try smoking one??
- or make one?
- smoking one, if you can make for mee
- and youre okay with it not being a monster then?
- have you done the monster?
- no. i havnt made any monsters in a long time.
- maybe i should though.
- but would you rather want a monster or a churchwarden?
- either way, im all out of wood, so itll have to wait untill i have more of that.
- monster curhwoden
- bowl monster with long stem
- maybe this
- i can try. not sure how monster i can make it. but i can try.
- thx my friend, i cant wait it
- MAR 27, 2018, 4:16 PM
- hey irnal, are you talking about me in your latest post?
- because i just want to say, i want to be able to give you good quality in pipes. and im sorry if you feel like youve been cheated.
- MAR 27, 2018, 9:09 PM
- look, if you want i can send you one of my most recent pipes, so you dont have to wait any longer, and then i can work on your monster in the meantime...
- hahah no my friend, i trust you. I am in the deceit of many people, some of them who have mendelete me.
- oh my god.
- i was so afraid to be honest. i thought you meant me.
- but my offer still stands. if you want a pipe i didnt sell at the show, ill send it to you, to make up for lost time
- that's why I am ending this rarely in social media, I lost a lot of money for, energy and time. I am pretty annoyed a little. I'm trying to forget it
- and the person deleted you?
- haha, I handed you a pillar to my friend. whatever it is I will keep it in the best place
- you handed me a pillar?
- yes, for person deleted me. I pity if post him, had ever happened like this, I spread his name. until he can no longer be active in social media. I feel guilty about it
- if you want, i can try and talk to him perhaps? im in a similar situation as he is in, so it might help?
- I mean, leave the choice to you
- i mean, ill do anything i can to help you. but its up to you entirely. if someone were to not answer me for a deal, i wouldnt feel guilty about exposing him
- haha be my friend, do not be like that. keep doing what you should do. this is just a moment of my annoyance. he really lost contact with me. but I still keep their chat. if there is a victim in the future, I will act.
- thank you for your good intentions. brota
- and if it becomes too much waiting for you, with the monster. be sure to tell me.
- just know that i want to be able to make the best possible pipe i can for you.
- just relax my friend, I follow every friend of mine, the most important for you, health and focus with what you do. you are still young
- you are also still young ๐
- hahaha, but I can not make pipes like you, I envy you
- whats stopping you?
- my country's hard rule to include a briar from abroad. now also tobacco can only enter 40 grams for one shipment.
- but you can make pipes out of other sort of woods...?
- my country has no decent wood for pipes. but it's okay I'm just glad to see a lot of people making cool pipes.
- suit yourself man, but if you really wanted to make pipes, it just takes hard work ๐
- hahah thank you, you want see my pipe?
- nice! ๐
- now you just need a stem.
- hahah thank you my friend, but it fails, and only you know. I just want to be a suport pipe maker.
- lol.
- how about this? what if i send you some pretty much done pipes sometime, and then you can paint them?
- it's so hard I'm not talented,
- yes you most certainly are
- you are one of the most prominent painters i know
- like collaboration? here it is difficult to get a decent leather paint, because many fake.
- yea, like collaboration
- it doesnt need to be leather paint. just needs to be heat resistant.
- after that I send. good idea back to you
- or you can keep them, and sell them to friends, or give away. its up to you.
- I have a good paint paint, but later I'm afraid it will make a bundle when burned
- of course, I will try to order paint from online site. to learn his character
- do it however you like
- i leave that part entirely up to you
- ok my friend, let's work it out. if someday anyone likes, the money for your treatment, agree?
- no worries. i dont need money for my treatment ๐
- use it to save up to a plane ticket to europe instead
- or maybe to buy a pipe maker for you. ok ok
- lets just see how it goes first ๐
- hahah believe me a few years, I will fly there, to see the chicago pipe show directly
- so will i! ๐
- whats that?
- i designer and marketing on pipe parade
- ah
- thats cool! ๐
- but I can not help you have the path, I'm sorry
- no worries
- next year we plan to make a big event in my country, if you have money for tickets, I will tag all your life over here. and provide you stand to sell pipes,
- lol. thanks. i hope so ๐
- and certainly will make you a guest of honor at the event later, I will try to find a sponsor to bring you
- man, thats way too kind.
- i would absolutely love to come visit though!
- hahah, pray, I tried my best
- i will! ๐
- next month there is a big meeting, I will file your name in our guest list of honor
- youre too kind, you really dont have to, but if its okay with the other members, i dont mind.
- of course, because I am one of the founders of it. founders of dustinguesheadrufian and pipe and bear have also declared to be vandalizing. I think you should join them too
- im distinguished ruffian myself. but i wont join pipe and beard because i have yet to grow a beard.
- you can see, i dont have a beard,
- yes. better get one soon
- founder pipe and bear is my best friend too.
- is it someone i know?
- he is very good, I am sure you will be accepted by him, if you want to talk to him
- nah. id rather wait till i have a beard ๐
- thanks for the offer though
- here he is, he is the sole board of pipe and bear, he belongs to my motif
- ah ๐
- ill talk to him once i have a beard.
- hahaha, hahaha, I also want to grow a beard, but not grow up
- lol
- im never gonna grow up
- hahaha it will not feel, time goes on
- i will never grow up!
- why ?
- i just wont. ill always be a child inside.
- hahaha i think you need women wkwkkww
- yes ๐
- let's have your friends to find, and get her a date
- no thanks... ill find someone eventually
- hahah men must be tough and fast move on from women
- APR 1, 2018, 5:12 PM
- isak give me yoou logo PNG
- https://imgur.com/a/UiQnQ
- here is it in high resolution
- Brand Name:
- Full name:
- Country of origin:
- When to Start being an artist Pipe:
- Vision and mission:
- Self Image:
- Photo Pipe:
- Motivation make pipes:
- so, tell me about your pipe, make it into several paragraphs,
- and you brith date
- okay.
- give me some time.
- ok my friend
- what do you need it for? ๐
- magazine
- not complited
- im writing it right now.
- oh like that.
- then ill re-write it
- birth: 5 Oct. 1998, ร rhus.
- Country: Denmark
- Started making pipes Nov. 2017
- motivation: to make pipes unlike anyone has ever before.
- I reside in the psychedelic realm of pipemaking, but i dont smoke funny tobacco in my pipes. I like to make the pipes i dream of, and take inspiration in monsters and pipemakers like Yves Backstoner, Christian Wolfsteiner and Petr Kucera when i am making pipes.
- my email adress is immanuelpipes@gmail.com by the way.
- amazing!
- thank you so much!
- got taa
- your wellcome my frienf
- hey, whilst i have your attention. would it be okay if the churchwarden was a bamboo pipe, irnal?
- a bamboo churchwarden
- bammboo? sure ? i loveeeeeeee bambooo
- awesome!
- ill make a crazy bamboo monster for you.
- thank you very very much my friend
- no. thank you for waiting.
- thank you for your patience
- if I later make the path Art Of Pipes I will send to you
- once it gets a little warmer, ill ask my friend to take a picture outside with the tshirt you send her
- ohh realy thank you my friend
- no worries
- APR 8, 2018, 1:12 AM
- i am currently waiting on a tool from a friend from bulgaria, to help me with tenons so i can finally start using accent rings on bamboo and stuff like that, but once it gets here, ill do my very best to make this pipe come true. however, less classic, and more gore and monster like.
- ๐ฎ
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- wooow
- dont work hard my friend
- dont tell me that. thats no motivation. i promised you a pipe, and i want it to last you for atleast 40 years.
- can it really last for 40 years? what name would you love on that pipe?
- ill decide on it once i have actually finished it ๐
- ?
- Sorry, i really don't like talking in the phone ๐
- hahaha ok ok,
- dont wory my friend ๐
- yea, well i just wanted to give you a quick update. im not sure it will last 40 years. but i want to do everything in my power in order to make that happen.
- amien, and i trust you can, see what I will do with the monster
- what will you do with the monster? smoke it hopefully?
- hahaha we'll see ๐ later,
- i hope ๐
- hahaha, special pipe from special friend
- MAY 9, 2018, 7:26 PM
- Hey Irnal, i don't know when exactly ill be able to work on your pipe, i hope its soon, but i have no way of guaranteeing that. If you want me to send another pipe ive already made, i wouldnt mind doing that, and then making the churchwarden for you once im out of all of this ruckus in my life. right now is just a very difficult time in my life. many choices and so on.
- MAY 9, 2018, 9:52 PM
- dont wory my friend
- i trust you ๐
- take your time
- MAY 15, 2018, 2:11 AM
- MAY 15, 2018, 8:30 AM
- JUN 5, 2018, 3:19 AM
- you have peterson like that?
- JUN 5, 2018, 11:36 AM
- not quite, how come?
- what is the price of a standard peterson system like that in your country?
- JUN 5, 2018, 3:04 PM
- i dont know actually, probably 400-800 dkk depending on size
- ๐ฎ
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- JUL 24, 2018, 12:14 PM
- JUL 24, 2018, 3:06 PM
- Hello? ๐
- long time not see
- you dont make pipe again?
- and how about photo t shirt man?
- JUL 25, 2018, 12:44 AM
- hey man, as ive told you before, im taking a break from pipemaking untill im done with my education as multi media graphic artist. and, i did ask you if you wanted one of the pipes that i have already made in return for the t-shirt, because i dont know when i might be able to work on the pipe specifically for you.
- JUL 25, 2018, 7:19 AM
- how fast is this? it turns out I only told you to wait. thanks ya friend
- JUL 26, 2018, 11:43 AM
- thx bro
- JUL 26, 2018, 1:35 PM
- I told you this once already bro
- AUG 6, 2018, 4:45 AM
- AUG 12, 2018, 10:42 PM
- bro you have bulldog shape pipe?
- not that i have made myself
- ok ok
- i have one that i have modified though.
- so now what you have?
- i have a black bulldog that i rusticated
- can i see?
- sure, ill send a picture later or tomorrow'
- ok ok thank you
- so how many pipe al ready now ?
- What?
- AUG 13, 2018, 4:14 AM
- sob you accidentally forget me? first you really asked me with a desire. but this has been too long for me, enough I know who you are. someday you will be able to get it worth it. thanks. I will never be sincere
- AUG 13, 2018, 8:37 AM
- I did not forget you. But i already explained to you though.
- hahah bro thank you, you make me like soybeans, you always promise. a year I waited for me to also be sick of you
- No. I asked you several times if you wanted a pipe i already made
- Dont blame me.
- from the beginning I was as handsome as giving it to you, but you still enthusiastically make it, so it's wrong I trust you. thank you sob
- a lot of hope is lost, one year is more than enough bro, I don't really think if people buy it for you. provided you know what I gave you, just as I bought two artisan pipes for someone else. but I am consumed by your seduction, as if you are like a good person
- That's it. Give me your full adress and ill send you the pipe. And after that im unfriending you. I dont want anything else to do with you when you're being so ignorant and rude.
- AUG 14, 2018, 6:39 AM
- hahah who's not upset bro, I can't get any news from you. if you act able to just say you can't. I also don't want to be friends with people who break promises like you.
- please if you want to delete friends. I find out if you are an irresponsible person, think if you are in this position.
- AUG 14, 2018, 2:46 PM
- i just asked you for your adress, what part of that are you not understanding?
- ๐ฎ
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- AUG 15, 2018, 7:01 AM
- Kosan Camar no kamar 28.Cipaku indah II. RT/RW 01/02 Kel. Ledeng Kec. Cidadap, Setiabudi Kota Bandung. provinsi jawa barat, Indonesia . pos code 40143
- Irnal Sugama
- phone number 081372271349
- SEP 24, 2018, 12:40 AM
- hello, you'd better just befriend me now. I don't want to be hurt anymore because I was deceived for the same time. thank you
- Hey irnal. Im sorry you feel hurt. Truth is i take chemo therapy for my illness and i'd be lying if i said everything was well. I will still honor my promise with a pipe for you. But only once i feel better. Im sorry i havnt told you sooner but you must understand that it isnt something to yell about. If you dont believe me i can send you pictures tomorrow of the medicine.
- I want to give you a pipe worthy of your warm personality. But I cannot when im sick like this.
- why before you didn't say that to me? if you say that to me, there will be no misunderstanding. I was also deceived by Yianos, he also invited to exchange for works and clothes. my clothes have arrived there. but he has no more communication. Because of this kind of thing, I no longer want to exchange works
- SEP 24, 2018, 8:30 AM
- Because it is something incredibly personal. Only very few people know. I trust you keep this between you and me?
- SEP 24, 2018, 10:33 AM
- Do you i
- Do you understand?*
- oh ok ok, then you focus on treatment first. and recover quickly
- Thank you. i dont want to be sick anymore than you do ๐
- hopefully the treatment is smooth and you are normal again.
- hopefully. i WILL get you your pipe.
- SEP 24, 2018, 3:50 PM
- ok
- OCT 9, 2018, 2:15 PM
- OCT 11, 2018, 10:24 PM
- how wre u
- nauseous.
- OCT 12, 2018, 3:31 AM
- Ok, have a good rest
- NOV 11, 2018, 9:58 AM
- NOV 15, 2018, 3:14 AM
- you seem to have forgotten something. I give two choices. Pay or specify when you send? I've waited too long. and remember in this world you are not the only one who is sick. and men must be responsible. I was really tired, immediately finish this. thx
- NOV 15, 2018, 8:36 AM
- You didnt actually do that.
- NOV 19, 2018, 12:12 AM
- it's been more than a year, I'm tired, now set the time
- alright then. 3 years.
- no i cant wait 3 year
- already, I want this month. I don't want to be hurt. do you pay for the clothes? or send an existing pipe?
- send me this, if you don't have a pipe ready to send
- or pay my t shirt
- What are you asking for the t shirt? How much?
- January 2019 at the longest
- i cant.
- what amount of money are you asking for the t shirt?
- $60 + shiping $20
- do you enjoy ripping off the ill people?
- do you also enjoy lying to poor people?
- I don't trust you anymore, if you really care about your promises, you will definitely tell and communicate with me. but, I always ask. and the answer is very disappointing
- give me your paypal information
- NOV 19, 2018, 3:33 AM
- oejangendey@gmail.com
- NOV 23, 2018, 12:33 AM
- sip
- DEC 2, 2018, 6:29 AM
- you forget it,isak?
- DEC 4, 2018, 3:46 AM
- isak
- DEC 6, 2018, 5:20 AM
- hello
- DEC 7, 2018, 7:27 AM
- what you want?
- SAT 10:42 AM
- isak
- SUN 8:27 PM
- Do you want to find a problem?
- MON 7:51 PM
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