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- Subtitles by explosiveskull
- Resync by GoldenBeard
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- ♪ Well, take me back down
- where cool water flow, yeh
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- ♪ Let me remember
- things I love
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- Dan. Your rifle.
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- All right,
- do them all.
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- First and second squad, too.
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- ♪ Stoppin' at the log
- where catfish bite
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- Who's the longhair?
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- That's Ellsberg. Works for
- Lansdale at the embassy.
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- He's observing.
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- ♪ I can hear
- the bull frog callin' me
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- ♪ Wonder if my rope's
- still hangin' to the tree
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- Let's move out.
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- Let's go. Moving out.
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- ♪ Love to kick my feet
- way down the shallow water
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- ♪ Shoe fly, dragon fly,
- get back to your mother
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- I'll take good care of it.
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- ♪ Skip it across Green
- River ♪
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- Bravo 27,
- this is Kilo 4 Tango.
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- Fire mission. Grid 298471.
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- Lay down.
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- Just hang in there, buddy.
- They're gonna fix you up.
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- Dan?
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- Dan?
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- Dan!
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- Secretary would like a word.
- You wanna follow me?
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- Well, you can say what
- you want to the President.
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- I've read every one
- of Ellsberg's reports...
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- and I'm telling you,
- it's just not the case.
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- Dan, you know Mr. Komer.
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- He's been discussing the war
- with the President...
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- and, well,
- his sense is that we've made
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- real progress
- over the past year...
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- but I've been doing my own
- review, and it seems to me...
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- that things have gotten worse.
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- But neither of us
- have been in the field.
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- You have,
- you're the one who knows.
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- So, what do you say?
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- Are things better or worse?
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- Well, Mr. Secretary...
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- what I'm most impressed by is
- how much things are the same.
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- You see, that's exactly
- what I'm saying.
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- We put another
- hundred thousand troops
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- into the field,
- things are no better.
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- To me, that means things
- are actually worse.
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- Thank you, Dan.
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- Mr. Secretary!
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- Mr. Secretary! Sir!
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- How was
- your trip, sir? Sir.
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- Good afternoon, gentlemen.
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- I don't have
- any prepared remarks...
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- but I'd be very happy to take
- your questions one at a time.
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- - Jim.
- - Mr. Secretary...
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- I'm wondering
- if the trip left you
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- optimistic or pessimistic...
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- about our prospects in this
- war and our ability to win it.
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- He asked whether I was
- optimistic or pessimistic.
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- Today, I can tell you
- that military progress
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- over the past 12 months...
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- has exceeded our expectations.
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- We're very encouraged by what
- we're seeing in Vietnam.
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- In every respect,
- we're making progress.
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- And I'm especially pleased
- to have had
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- Bob Komer along for the trip.
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- So he could see for himself
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- that we've been
- showing great improvement...
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- in every dimension
- of the war effort.
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- Derek.
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- Good night, Dan.
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- - Good night, Dan.
- - Night, guys.
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- You okay, Dan?
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- Yeah. Yeah, thought
- I'd forgot something.
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- I didn't.
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- Next left on Melrose.
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- We have committed
- ourselves to the cause...
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- of a just
- and peaceful world order
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- through the United Nations.
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- "May 3rd, 1950.
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- "President Truman
- approved $10 million
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- "in military aid
- to Indochina."
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- America's leadership
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- and prestige depend...
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- on how we use our power in
- the interests of world peace.
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- "I feel concerned
- about paragraph six...
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- "which gives
- authority to control
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- "general elections
- in Vietnam."
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- The United
- States, as the world knows,
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- will never start a war.
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- "May 11th, 1961.
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- "President Kennedy orders
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- "a full examination
- by the Defense Department...
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- "of a possible commitment
- of U.S. forces to Vietnam."
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- We are not
- about to send American boys...
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- 9 or 10,000 miles
- away from home...
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- to do what Asian boys ought
- to be doing for themselves.
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- "President Johnson chose to
- reaffirm the Kennedy policies.
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- "Military operations
- should be initiated
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- "under close
- political control."
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- Can we just do the numbers
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- just one more time?
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- The company's selling
- how many shares?
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- 1.35 million shares.
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- And the price range is?
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- Between $24.50
- and $27 per share.
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- Not exactly
- a huge difference.
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- For them.
- But, you know, the bankers
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- always do fiddle
- with the prices.
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- But for us,
- that's over $3 million...
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- 00:10:46,087 --> 00:10:48,990
- and that represents
- over five years' salary
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- for 25 good reporters.
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- Good. But why spend
- in the newsroom?
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- You're far less profitable
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- than Gannett
- or Knight or Ridder.
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- Gannett and Knight and Ridder
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- own monopoly papers
- in smaller cities.
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- And our readers are leaders,
- you know.
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- 00:11:03,873 --> 00:11:05,372
- They're educated.
- They demand more.
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- That's why we invest
- in really good reporters.
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- 00:11:10,046 --> 00:11:11,112
- And so...
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- Because quality
- and profitability
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- do go hand in hand.
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- - See?
- - Yeah.
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- 00:11:18,254 --> 00:11:20,654
- - You know all this already.
- - Oh, gosh!
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- I don't know if I do.
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- - I should get to breakfast.
- - Yeah.
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- We don't want Paul or Arthur
- too antsy this afternoon.
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- No.
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- Good luck.
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- 00:11:27,931 --> 00:11:29,566
- - And thank you, Fritz.
- - Mmm-hmm.
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- - See you downtown.
- - I'll see you.
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- 00:11:32,802 --> 00:11:34,468
- You think
- this is really necessary?
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- Oh, God, yes.
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- 00:11:35,672 --> 00:11:39,240
- Darling, you should hear how
- they talk at these meetings.
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- It's as if
- it's in a foreign language.
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- 00:11:40,911 --> 00:11:43,213
- No, I meant
- taking the company public.
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- 00:11:48,283 --> 00:11:51,785
- It seems we are cash poor.
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- 00:11:51,787 --> 00:11:53,286
- You know, barely solvent.
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- 00:11:53,288 --> 00:11:54,955
- That's the newspaper business.
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- 00:11:54,957 --> 00:11:56,357
- That's
- our newspaper business...
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- 00:11:56,359 --> 00:11:57,958
- and we need
- the public offering
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- to stay in business
- and to continue to grow.
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- That's what Fritz says.
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- 00:12:01,464 --> 00:12:03,263
- And he also says
- that the family
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- 00:12:03,265 --> 00:12:05,501
- can maintain control if we...
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- 00:12:06,769 --> 00:12:08,602
- Anyway, I'm just not sure
- your grandfather...
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- would have wanted us to
- give up any control at all.
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- 00:12:14,210 --> 00:12:16,243
- - Hello?
- - Mrs. Graham?
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- Yes? This is she.
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- Please hold
- for the Chief of Staff.
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- Who is it?
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- Haldeman.
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- 00:12:25,354 --> 00:12:26,753
- Mrs. Graham,
- Bob Haldeman.
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- 00:12:26,755 --> 00:12:28,287
- Yes, hello.
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- 00:12:28,289 --> 00:12:31,391
- We've got a bit of
- an issue over here.
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- 00:12:31,393 --> 00:12:33,059
- Oh?
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- 00:12:33,061 --> 00:12:34,428
- Well,
- that makes perfect sense.
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- 00:12:34,430 --> 00:12:35,996
- Do you agree with that?
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- Without a doubt.
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- 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,276
- Oh, Jesus.
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- 00:12:47,510 --> 00:12:49,208
- I'm so sorry.
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- 00:12:49,210 --> 00:12:50,878
- - Sorry, sorry, sorry.
- - Good morning.
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- 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:55,982
- So late. I had to get all this
- stuff together...
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- 00:12:55,984 --> 00:12:58,085
- and then I had
- an unexpected call.
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- 00:12:58,087 --> 00:13:00,987
- Well, what is
- with the suitcase?
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- 00:13:00,989 --> 00:13:04,125
- Ben, I told you,
- this is the day.
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- 00:13:04,127 --> 00:13:05,526
- We're meeting
- with the bankers today.
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- 00:13:05,528 --> 00:13:08,094
- - Oh, yes. Right, right.
- - You know this.
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- 00:13:08,096 --> 00:13:09,796
- I bet you every dollar
- in my wallet
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- 00:13:09,798 --> 00:13:10,930
- that you are
- the only person...
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- in that boardroom who's read
- through all that nonsense.
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- 00:13:13,369 --> 00:13:16,102
- I'm probably
- the only one who needs to.
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- 00:13:16,104 --> 00:13:18,939
- What do you think
- of Neil Sheehan?
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- Oh, gosh,
- his coverage of Vietnam
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- 00:13:20,942 --> 00:13:22,676
- is just absolutely marvelous.
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- 00:13:22,678 --> 00:13:23,810
- Why?
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- 00:13:23,812 --> 00:13:26,247
- You thinking of trying to
- steal him from The Times?
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- 00:13:26,249 --> 00:13:27,747
- I'm not sure
- we can afford him.
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- He... He hasn't had
- a piece in three months.
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- 00:13:30,954 --> 00:13:32,319
- Oh?
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- 00:13:32,321 --> 00:13:34,421
- Do you think
- he's onto something?
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- 00:13:34,423 --> 00:13:36,690
- Well, I saw Abe
- at a dinner party last week
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- 00:13:36,692 --> 00:13:40,294
- and he was looking
- mighty, mighty smug.
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- 00:13:40,296 --> 00:13:42,796
- Doesn't he always?
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- 00:13:42,798 --> 00:13:43,931
- So who was it?
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- 00:13:43,933 --> 00:13:45,065
- Who was what?
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- 00:13:45,067 --> 00:13:47,200
- Your unexpected call.
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- 00:13:47,202 --> 00:13:50,271
- Oh, I buried the lede.
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- 00:13:50,273 --> 00:13:52,205
- The White House.
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- 00:13:52,207 --> 00:13:54,175
- - Haldeman rang.
- - Yeah?
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- 00:13:54,177 --> 00:13:56,377
- It seems
- the President has decided
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- 00:13:56,379 --> 00:13:58,246
- not to provide Judith...
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- 00:13:58,248 --> 00:14:00,314
- with credentials
- to cover the Nixon wedding.
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- 00:14:00,316 --> 00:14:02,348
- - Jesus Christ.
- - Yeah.
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- 00:14:02,350 --> 00:14:04,584
- They said we could
- send another reporter.
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- 00:14:04,586 --> 00:14:07,253
- Oh, yeah? Can't believe that.
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- 00:14:07,255 --> 00:14:08,988
- I know, I know.
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- 00:14:08,990 --> 00:14:10,357
- - But...
- - But what?
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- 00:14:10,359 --> 00:14:11,592
- I'm not sure I entirely blame
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- 00:14:11,594 --> 00:14:13,460
- the President
- on this one, Ben.
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- No?
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- 00:14:14,663 --> 00:14:16,631
- Would you want Judith to cover
- your daughter's wedding?
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- 00:14:16,633 --> 00:14:18,332
- Well, my daughter's
- only 10 years old...
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- 00:14:18,334 --> 00:14:20,067
- I think she burned her bridges
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- 00:14:20,069 --> 00:14:22,170
- when she
- crashed Julie's reception.
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- 00:14:22,172 --> 00:14:23,771
- - They're being punitive.
- - Her pen is so sharp.
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- 00:14:23,773 --> 00:14:25,173
- - Of course it's punitive.
- - This is punitive.
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- 00:14:25,175 --> 00:14:27,440
- Of course it's punitive.
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- 00:14:27,442 --> 00:14:31,444
- She compared Tricia Nixon
- to a vanilla ice cream cone.
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- 00:14:31,446 --> 00:14:33,780
- - Yeah, she did.
- - Yeah.
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- 00:14:33,782 --> 00:14:35,616
- I mean, why would
- her father want Judy
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- 00:14:35,618 --> 00:14:37,184
- to cover
- his daughter's wedding?
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- 00:14:37,186 --> 00:14:38,685
- Oh, come on.
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- 00:14:38,687 --> 00:14:39,987
- I just...
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- 00:14:39,989 --> 00:14:43,623
- Are you sure we're striking
- the right tone here, Ben?
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- 00:14:43,625 --> 00:14:45,025
- Oh, we're gonna
- do this again?
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- 00:14:45,027 --> 00:14:46,993
- No. Uh,
- the New Style section.
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- 00:14:46,995 --> 00:14:50,463
- Sometimes that stiletto party
- coverage can be a little mean.
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- I'm handling it.
- I'm looking for a new editor.
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- 00:14:52,435 --> 00:14:53,733
- Yes, are you?
- Because I know
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- 00:14:53,735 --> 00:14:56,203
- I've talked to you
- about this before.
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- 00:14:56,205 --> 00:14:59,740
- You are losing
- female readership, you know.
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- 00:14:59,742 --> 00:15:01,407
- And I think you might
- want to focus more
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- 00:15:01,409 --> 00:15:02,543
- on what women read...
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- 00:15:02,545 --> 00:15:05,515
- Katharine, keep your finger
- outta my eye.
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- 00:15:12,388 --> 00:15:13,787
- You...
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- 00:15:16,725 --> 00:15:18,825
- These breakfasts
- were your idea, you know.
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- 00:15:18,827 --> 00:15:22,396
- Yes. And you are the publisher
- and you are my boss.
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- 00:15:22,398 --> 00:15:24,165
- And I, uh...
- I value the input,
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- 00:15:24,167 --> 00:15:26,400
- but I... I heard you
- the first three times.
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- 00:15:26,402 --> 00:15:29,203
- You know, I just think
- there might be another way...
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- 00:15:29,205 --> 00:15:31,439
- that we could cool it with
- the White House.
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- 00:15:31,441 --> 00:15:34,641
- Maybe we could just send
- somebody else, you know...
- 233
- 00:15:34,643 --> 00:15:37,310
- Nope, nope. Nope. I'm not
- gonna send another reporter.
- 234
- 00:15:37,312 --> 00:15:39,280
- Because it's not
- hard news, Ben.
- 235
- 00:15:39,282 --> 00:15:40,615
- It's just a wedding.
- 236
- 00:15:40,617 --> 00:15:42,382
- It's not just a wedding.
- 237
- 00:15:42,384 --> 00:15:43,450
- It's a wedding of the daughter
- 238
- 00:15:43,452 --> 00:15:45,151
- of the President
- of the United States.
- 239
- 00:15:45,153 --> 00:15:46,686
- Why not let that girl
- have her day?
- 240
- 00:15:46,688 --> 00:15:48,322
- And we can't have
- an administration
- 241
- 00:15:48,324 --> 00:15:49,555
- dictating to us
- our coverage...
- 242
- 00:15:49,557 --> 00:15:50,790
- just because they don't like
- 243
- 00:15:50,792 --> 00:15:53,696
- what we print about them
- in our newspaper.
- 244
- 00:15:58,167 --> 00:16:00,300
- Wonder if Abe
- cares so passionately
- 245
- 00:16:00,302 --> 00:16:02,402
- about who covers
- the wedding for his paper.
- 246
- 00:16:02,404 --> 00:16:04,405
- I don't give a rat's ass
- what Abe or anybody
- 247
- 00:16:04,407 --> 00:16:06,073
- at The New York Times
- cares about.
- 248
- 00:16:06,075 --> 00:16:07,607
- Not true.
- I give one rat's ass.
- 249
- 00:16:07,609 --> 00:16:09,676
- - Yeah.
- - One retromingent...
- 250
- 00:16:09,678 --> 00:16:11,513
- rat's ass.
- 251
- 00:16:37,105 --> 00:16:38,372
- Well, it's real important.
- 252
- 00:16:38,374 --> 00:16:40,774
- Can you get him for me?
- 253
- 00:16:40,776 --> 00:16:44,147
- Tell them it's from Sheehan.
- Don't walk.
- 254
- 00:17:11,273 --> 00:17:12,641
- It's from Sheehan.
- 255
- 00:17:19,515 --> 00:17:21,551
- Abe, here it is.
- 256
- 00:17:38,434 --> 00:17:39,665
- Okay,
- Broder's got Nixon
- 257
- 00:17:39,667 --> 00:17:41,801
- working on his second term.
- 258
- 00:17:41,803 --> 00:17:45,005
- Osnos has something on G.I.s
- buying heroin in Saigon...
- 259
- 00:17:45,007 --> 00:17:47,607
- but Ryder's got
- a rocket on the FBI list
- 260
- 00:17:47,609 --> 00:17:48,809
- of potential subversives.
- 261
- 00:17:48,811 --> 00:17:50,377
- Save it for the afternoon.
- 262
- 00:17:50,379 --> 00:17:52,479
- I need Chal and Judith.
- 263
- 00:17:52,481 --> 00:17:53,780
- Judith!
- 264
- 00:17:53,782 --> 00:17:55,982
- Is that real,
- the subversives list?
- 265
- 00:17:55,984 --> 00:17:58,319
- Oh, yeah. Hoover
- and Justice keep a copy.
- 266
- 00:17:58,321 --> 00:17:59,619
- Thousands of names.
- 267
- 00:17:59,621 --> 00:18:01,288
- Geyelin heard the White House
- is shutting Judith out.
- 268
- 00:18:01,290 --> 00:18:02,356
- Yeah, I'm working on that.
- 269
- 00:18:02,358 --> 00:18:03,723
- We think editorial
- should run something.
- 270
- 00:18:03,725 --> 00:18:05,358
- I just heard somebody say
- they're working on that.
- 271
- 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:06,426
- Well, if the White House is
- 272
- 00:18:06,428 --> 00:18:07,528
- gonna take
- a stance like that...
- 273
- 00:18:07,530 --> 00:18:10,032
- don't you think
- we should plant a flag?
- 274
- 00:18:12,167 --> 00:18:16,203
- Did you see Sheehan at the
- Kissinger press conference?
- 275
- 00:18:16,205 --> 00:18:17,370
- No.
- 276
- 00:18:17,372 --> 00:18:19,139
- What about the Al Haig thing?
- 277
- 00:18:19,141 --> 00:18:21,143
- No, Times sent the new kid.
- 278
- 00:18:21,878 --> 00:18:23,310
- The new kid, huh?
- 279
- 00:18:23,312 --> 00:18:25,378
- You think Sheehan's
- onto something.
- 280
- 00:18:25,380 --> 00:18:26,946
- Yeah.
- 281
- 00:18:26,948 --> 00:18:29,482
- Well, Neil has been known
- to disappear.
- 282
- 00:18:29,484 --> 00:18:32,351
- No, no. I'm telling you,
- he has something.
- 283
- 00:18:32,353 --> 00:18:34,555
- You want me to do
- a little digging?
- 284
- 00:18:34,557 --> 00:18:37,223
- No, that's below
- your pay grade.
- 285
- 00:18:37,225 --> 00:18:38,561
- Intern!
- 286
- 00:18:39,527 --> 00:18:42,229
- You working on anything
- important, chief?
- 287
- 00:18:42,231 --> 00:18:44,632
- Uh, no, Mr. Bradlee.
- 288
- 00:18:44,634 --> 00:18:47,167
- Well, everything we do
- is important at The Post.
- 289
- 00:18:47,169 --> 00:18:48,569
- Yeah. That's $40.
- 290
- 00:18:48,571 --> 00:18:51,638
- I want you to take the
- first train up to New York...
- 291
- 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,441
- and go to
- The Times building on 43rd.
- 292
- 00:18:53,443 --> 00:18:54,642
- Don't tell them
- who you work for...
- 293
- 00:18:54,644 --> 00:18:57,310
- but find a reporter
- by the name of Sheehan.
- 294
- 00:18:57,312 --> 00:18:58,878
- Uh, Neil Sheehan?
- 295
- 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:03,519
- Yeah, yeah, find out what
- Neil Sheehan is working on.
- 296
- 00:19:04,286 --> 00:19:06,118
- Is that legal?
- 297
- 00:19:06,120 --> 00:19:09,790
- Well, what is it you think we
- do here for a living, kid?
- 298
- 00:19:09,792 --> 00:19:11,290
- Get a receipt for the tickets.
- 299
- 00:19:11,292 --> 00:19:12,294
- Yeah.
- 300
- 00:19:28,510 --> 00:19:30,980
- - Morning, Mrs. Graham.
- - Hello, morning.
- 301
- 00:19:34,650 --> 00:19:36,716
- Hello.
- Morning, everybody.
- 302
- 00:19:36,718 --> 00:19:38,051
- - Hi, Oz.
- - Mrs. Graham.
- 303
- 00:19:38,053 --> 00:19:39,288
- Morning, Arthur.
- 304
- 00:19:40,589 --> 00:19:42,191
- Hello. Hello, everyone.
- 305
- 00:19:44,726 --> 00:19:46,594
- So, everyone's here.
- 306
- 00:19:46,596 --> 00:19:49,363
- - Hello, Ray. My Galahad.
- - Good morning.
- 307
- 00:19:49,365 --> 00:19:50,900
- Thank you.
- 308
- 00:20:02,211 --> 00:20:03,543
- And I used to be the only one
- 309
- 00:20:03,545 --> 00:20:05,479
- who brought
- his homework to class.
- 310
- 00:20:07,750 --> 00:20:10,550
- I think we're all here.
- Should we get started?
- 311
- 00:20:10,552 --> 00:20:11,952
- Didn't you crash the wedding
- 312
- 00:20:11,954 --> 00:20:14,253
- of Nixon's other daughter
- to get a story?
- 313
- 00:20:14,255 --> 00:20:17,057
- Well, I did get a story but I
- didn't crash Julie's wedding.
- 314
- 00:20:17,059 --> 00:20:19,126
- No, just the reception
- afterwards, right?
- 315
- 00:20:19,128 --> 00:20:20,359
- There is a distinction.
- 316
- 00:20:20,361 --> 00:20:21,462
- Not to
- the father of the bride.
- 317
- 00:20:21,464 --> 00:20:22,762
- He's paying per plate.
- 318
- 00:20:22,764 --> 00:20:24,531
- I think the American people
- are paying per plate.
- 319
- 00:20:24,533 --> 00:20:26,066
- Wait, let's do
- a story about that.
- 320
- 00:20:26,068 --> 00:20:28,502
- - Yeah, let's...
- - Judith should crash again.
- 321
- 00:20:28,504 --> 00:20:29,735
- I didn't crash
- Julie's wedding.
- 322
- 00:20:29,737 --> 00:20:31,038
- What would you
- call it, Judith?
- 323
- 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:32,873
- Well, I would call it
- deft reportage.
- 324
- 00:20:32,875 --> 00:20:34,508
- All right, come on,
- come on, everybody.
- 325
- 00:20:34,510 --> 00:20:37,647
- How are we gonna cover
- this Nixon-Cox wedding?
- 326
- 00:20:41,984 --> 00:20:43,951
- Uh... Who else
- is gonna be there?
- 327
- 00:20:43,953 --> 00:20:45,417
- - Here.
- - Judith's got the guest list.
- 328
- 00:20:45,419 --> 00:20:47,287
- No, I mean of
- the other press.
- 329
- 00:20:47,289 --> 00:20:50,290
- The Times, the Sun, the Globe,
- all the international papers.
- 330
- 00:20:50,292 --> 00:20:51,957
- All right.
- 331
- 00:20:51,959 --> 00:20:55,631
- So, we call them,
- we call all of them...
- 332
- 00:20:56,564 --> 00:20:59,466
- and we say Nixon
- has shut us out...
- 333
- 00:20:59,468 --> 00:21:02,167
- and then we ask them
- for their notes.
- 334
- 00:21:02,169 --> 00:21:04,570
- Ben, there's no way in hell
- anyone's gonna give me a fill.
- 335
- 00:21:04,572 --> 00:21:07,508
- No, it'll be
- an act of solidarity.
- 336
- 00:21:07,510 --> 00:21:10,010
- They'll be defending
- the First Amendment.
- 337
- 00:21:10,012 --> 00:21:11,845
- We'll tell them
- that the only way
- 338
- 00:21:11,847 --> 00:21:13,780
- to protect
- the right to publish...
- 339
- 00:21:13,782 --> 00:21:15,984
- is to publish.
- 340
- 00:21:21,189 --> 00:21:22,490
- I don't understand.
- 341
- 00:21:22,492 --> 00:21:25,291
- You said
- we'd set the price at $27.
- 342
- 00:21:25,293 --> 00:21:26,859
- No, we said there was a range.
- 343
- 00:21:26,861 --> 00:21:29,629
- And the demand on the
- road show was soft.
- 344
- 00:21:29,631 --> 00:21:32,765
- Why not set it at $26?
- Or $25 even?
- 345
- 00:21:32,767 --> 00:21:34,667
- Well, Paul, we feel
- that setting the price
- 346
- 00:21:34,669 --> 00:21:36,736
- at $24.50 would be
- more prudent.
- 347
- 00:21:36,738 --> 00:21:38,172
- It's just a couple bucks.
- 348
- 00:21:38,174 --> 00:21:40,040
- It's not just
- a couple of bucks.
- 349
- 00:21:40,042 --> 00:21:42,811
- It's 1.35 million shares...
- 350
- 00:21:43,212 --> 00:21:44,981
- so it is...
- 351
- 00:21:46,448 --> 00:21:48,281
- Three million.
- 352
- 00:21:48,283 --> 00:21:52,653
- Over $3 million less.
- That's a lot to a newspaper.
- 353
- 00:21:52,655 --> 00:21:54,553
- How many reporters is that?
- 354
- 00:21:54,555 --> 00:21:55,655
- It's 25.
- 355
- 00:21:55,657 --> 00:21:57,023
- Let's not get bogged down.
- 356
- 00:21:57,025 --> 00:21:58,459
- It has to be quite a few.
- 357
- 00:21:58,461 --> 00:22:00,063
- At least a dozen. Fritz?
- 358
- 00:22:01,630 --> 00:22:03,262
- It's 25 reporters.
- 359
- 00:22:03,264 --> 00:22:05,432
- Twenty-five reporters.
- 360
- 00:22:05,434 --> 00:22:06,700
- Twenty-five reporters.
- 361
- 00:22:06,702 --> 00:22:08,835
- Gentlemen,
- we know it's not ideal...
- 362
- 00:22:08,837 --> 00:22:10,171
- but a few of our investors
- 363
- 00:22:10,173 --> 00:22:13,473
- balked at the nature
- of the company.
- 364
- 00:22:13,475 --> 00:22:14,707
- They don't like newspapers?
- 365
- 00:22:14,709 --> 00:22:17,478
- They like Gannett and
- Knight and Ridder...
- 366
- 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:18,678
- but frankly they're concerned
- 367
- 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,283
- about your ability
- to turn a serious profit.
- 368
- 00:22:34,963 --> 00:22:36,296
- Gannett and Knight and Ridder
- 369
- 00:22:36,298 --> 00:22:38,197
- own monopoly papers
- in smaller markets.
- 370
- 00:22:38,199 --> 00:22:40,434
- That's why
- they're more profitable.
- 371
- 00:22:40,436 --> 00:22:43,671
- The whole point of the
- offering is to grow...
- 372
- 00:22:43,673 --> 00:22:45,839
- while investing in the quality
- of the paper.
- 373
- 00:22:45,841 --> 00:22:49,209
- Kay and I have talked
- a great deal about this...
- 374
- 00:22:49,211 --> 00:22:52,212
- and we believe
- that improving quality...
- 375
- 00:22:52,214 --> 00:22:55,851
- will naturally lead to
- greater profitability.
- 376
- 00:22:57,619 --> 00:22:58,851
- Unfortunate.
- 377
- 00:22:58,853 --> 00:23:00,854
- It's more than unfortunate.
- 378
- 00:23:00,856 --> 00:23:02,623
- Doesn't this happen
- all the time?
- 379
- 00:23:02,625 --> 00:23:05,893
- Bankers lowering the price for
- their institutional investors.
- 380
- 00:23:05,895 --> 00:23:07,560
- Fritz, isn't this
- what we discussed?
- 381
- 00:23:07,562 --> 00:23:08,728
- I think the family
- should consider
- 382
- 00:23:08,730 --> 00:23:09,896
- giving up some control.
- 383
- 00:23:09,898 --> 00:23:12,098
- - Maybe another board seat.
- - Absolutely not.
- 384
- 00:23:12,100 --> 00:23:14,601
- This isn't a surprise, Fritz.
- Ever since Phil's accident...
- 385
- 00:23:14,603 --> 00:23:15,735
- Arthur.
- 386
- 00:23:15,737 --> 00:23:18,203
- No offense, Kay.
- It's unfortunate...
- 387
- 00:23:18,205 --> 00:23:19,906
- but the buyers
- are obviously skittish
- 388
- 00:23:19,908 --> 00:23:21,340
- about having
- a woman in charge...
- 389
- 00:23:21,342 --> 00:23:23,543
- and it's not like
- it's an easy sell.
- 390
- 00:23:23,545 --> 00:23:26,680
- It's a local paper with modest
- margins, modest ambitions.
- 391
- 00:23:26,682 --> 00:23:28,115
- I think Mr. Bradlee
- would take issue
- 392
- 00:23:28,117 --> 00:23:29,383
- with that characterization.
- 393
- 00:23:29,385 --> 00:23:31,350
- Sure, she pads
- his budget every year.
- 394
- 00:23:31,352 --> 00:23:33,119
- Call my office.
- Tell them I'm going to
- 395
- 00:23:33,121 --> 00:23:35,021
- miss my lunch at Occidental.
- 396
- 00:23:35,023 --> 00:23:36,924
- Another dozen reporters.
- For what?
- 397
- 00:23:36,926 --> 00:23:38,692
- To nip at the heels
- of The Times?
- 398
- 00:23:38,694 --> 00:23:39,858
- So we can pretend like
- 399
- 00:23:39,860 --> 00:23:41,861
- we're even remotely
- in the same league?
- 400
- 00:23:41,863 --> 00:23:44,231
- Make it a five o'clock drink
- at the Jefferson.
- 401
- 00:23:44,233 --> 00:23:46,332
- Arthur, Kay was right.
- Lazard is just trying...
- 402
- 00:23:46,334 --> 00:23:47,599
- to cut a better deal
- by squeezing us.
- 403
- 00:23:47,601 --> 00:23:48,768
- Come on, Fritz.
- 404
- 00:23:48,770 --> 00:23:49,836
- Why do you think that is?
- 405
- 00:23:49,838 --> 00:23:51,038
- Because they're bankers.
- 406
- 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,606
- Which is why
- they want more control.
- 407
- 00:23:52,608 --> 00:23:53,740
- They want assurances
- 408
- 00:23:53,742 --> 00:23:54,875
- that she's not
- gonna squander it all.
- 409
- 00:23:54,877 --> 00:23:56,643
- I mean, come on.
- 410
- 00:23:56,645 --> 00:23:59,044
- Fritz, Kay throws
- a great party...
- 411
- 00:23:59,046 --> 00:24:01,882
- but her father gave the paper
- to her husband.
- 412
- 00:24:01,884 --> 00:24:03,617
- The only reason
- she's running things
- 413
- 00:24:03,619 --> 00:24:05,987
- is because he...
- Because Phil died.
- 414
- 00:24:07,189 --> 00:24:10,957
- Don't get me wrong,
- I think she is a lovely woman.
- 415
- 00:24:10,959 --> 00:24:12,826
- But she got rid
- of Al Friendly...
- 416
- 00:24:12,828 --> 00:24:14,293
- and brought in a pirate
- 417
- 00:24:14,295 --> 00:24:16,963
- who does nothing
- but bleed our margins.
- 418
- 00:24:16,965 --> 00:24:18,632
- I mean, you can't be surprised
- 419
- 00:24:18,634 --> 00:24:19,866
- that the buyers
- are concerned...
- 420
- 00:24:19,868 --> 00:24:21,100
- that she doesn't have
- the resolve
- 421
- 00:24:21,102 --> 00:24:23,071
- to turn a serious profit.
- 422
- 00:24:28,476 --> 00:24:30,844
- Kay, it's your decision...
- 423
- 00:24:30,846 --> 00:24:32,979
- but in my opinion,
- if you want this
- 424
- 00:24:32,981 --> 00:24:35,249
- to be more than
- a little family paper...
- 425
- 00:24:35,251 --> 00:24:38,521
- it has to be more than
- a little family business.
- 426
- 00:24:41,690 --> 00:24:44,427
- Thank you, Arthur,
- for your frankness.
- 427
- 00:24:45,660 --> 00:24:47,028
- All right.
- 428
- 00:24:48,296 --> 00:24:49,396
- We're set?
- 429
- 00:24:49,398 --> 00:24:51,367
- All set, Mr. Parsons.
- 430
- 00:24:53,769 --> 00:24:55,304
- Accident...
- 431
- 00:24:58,506 --> 00:25:00,243
- It wasn't an accident.
- 432
- 00:25:01,342 --> 00:25:02,575
- Phil's suicide.
- 433
- 00:25:02,577 --> 00:25:06,949
- I don't know why people insist
- on calling it an accident.
- 434
- 00:25:08,116 --> 00:25:10,653
- Is it to make them
- feel better?
- 435
- 00:25:11,754 --> 00:25:14,954
- Or do they think
- they're being kind?
- 436
- 00:25:14,956 --> 00:25:17,158
- I don't know, I don't know.
- 437
- 00:25:17,859 --> 00:25:20,027
- So, do you think I should
- 438
- 00:25:20,029 --> 00:25:22,662
- give up more seats
- on the board?
- 439
- 00:25:22,664 --> 00:25:24,532
- Of course not.
- 440
- 00:25:25,966 --> 00:25:28,234
- We're going to be fine.
- 441
- 00:25:28,236 --> 00:25:29,703
- Hmm.
- 442
- 00:25:29,705 --> 00:25:32,606
- This passage
- in the prospectus,
- 443
- 00:25:32,608 --> 00:25:35,244
- I read it earlier today.
- 444
- 00:25:38,914 --> 00:25:41,514
- Oh, yes.
- 445
- 00:25:41,516 --> 00:25:43,716
- "In the unlikely instance
- of disaster
- 446
- 00:25:43,718 --> 00:25:45,050
- "or catastrophic event...
- 447
- 00:25:45,052 --> 00:25:48,988
- "in the week following the
- initial public offering...
- 448
- 00:25:48,990 --> 00:25:50,924
- "Lazard Frères
- and Company retains
- 449
- 00:25:50,926 --> 00:25:52,925
- "full right
- to cancel the issue."
- 450
- 00:25:52,927 --> 00:25:54,461
- It's boilerplate, Kay.
- 451
- 00:25:54,463 --> 00:25:56,896
- It's standard
- contractual language.
- 452
- 00:25:58,134 --> 00:26:02,301
- But, so, the bankers
- could pull out.
- 453
- 00:26:02,303 --> 00:26:05,104
- Only if there's
- a true disaster.
- 454
- 00:26:05,106 --> 00:26:07,241
- Ben gets hit by a truck...
- 455
- 00:26:07,243 --> 00:26:11,277
- the world
- runs outta newspaper ink...
- 456
- 00:26:12,580 --> 00:26:14,181
- the truck goes
- around the block
- 457
- 00:26:14,183 --> 00:26:16,416
- and hits Ben again...
- 458
- 00:26:16,418 --> 00:26:18,085
- You think
- one of those is possible.
- 459
- 00:26:18,087 --> 00:26:19,953
- No, I don't...
- 460
- 00:26:19,955 --> 00:26:21,854
- but, you know,
- the Nixon White House
- 461
- 00:26:21,856 --> 00:26:23,790
- is nothing if not vindictive.
- 462
- 00:26:23,792 --> 00:26:25,157
- Just this morning...
- 463
- 00:26:25,159 --> 00:26:28,063
- they barred us from covering
- Tricia Nixon's wedding.
- 464
- 00:26:28,763 --> 00:26:30,563
- Somehow,
- I doubt that will rise
- 465
- 00:26:30,565 --> 00:26:32,031
- to the level of catastrophe.
- 466
- 00:26:32,033 --> 00:26:33,599
- I know. Probably not.
- 467
- 00:26:33,601 --> 00:26:37,171
- Although, when Ben sets
- his mind to plunder...
- 468
- 00:26:37,173 --> 00:26:40,743
- it's not hard to imagine
- something more serious.
- 469
- 00:26:42,244 --> 00:26:44,480
- Catastrophic events...
- 470
- 00:26:45,781 --> 00:26:47,280
- do occur, you know.
- 471
- 00:26:47,282 --> 00:26:51,350
- Yeah, but the right to cancel
- is only for a week.
- 472
- 00:26:51,352 --> 00:26:54,587
- A week
- from the public offering.
- 473
- 00:26:54,589 --> 00:26:58,491
- Seven days after they
- ring that bell on Tuesday...
- 474
- 00:26:58,493 --> 00:27:00,426
- the deal is done.
- 475
- 00:27:00,428 --> 00:27:01,429
- Hmm.
- 476
- 00:27:02,898 --> 00:27:05,134
- It's gonna be fine, Kay.
- 477
- 00:27:23,718 --> 00:27:25,086
- Jesus.
- 478
- 00:27:31,592 --> 00:27:33,763
- Do you know what floor
- the newsroom's on?
- 479
- 00:27:34,263 --> 00:27:35,395
- Five.
- 480
- 00:27:35,397 --> 00:27:37,700
- Uh, no, no, six, yeah. Six.
- 481
- 00:27:51,946 --> 00:27:53,946
- Things are heating up
- in East Pakistan?
- 482
- 00:27:53,948 --> 00:27:55,815
- Well,
- five million refugees
- 483
- 00:27:55,817 --> 00:27:57,951
- could destabilize West Bengal.
- 484
- 00:27:57,953 --> 00:28:00,020
- So, Lindsay's lowering
- the boom tomorrow.
- 485
- 00:28:00,022 --> 00:28:01,654
- They gotta cut 100 million.
- 486
- 00:28:01,656 --> 00:28:04,460
- Gonna be some blood on
- the floor of Gracie Mansion.
- 487
- 00:28:06,494 --> 00:28:08,761
- I heard the Mayors gave it to
- Nixon in Philly.
- 488
- 00:28:08,763 --> 00:28:10,664
- Yeah, Tolchin's down there.
- He's filing.
- 489
- 00:28:10,666 --> 00:28:12,132
- Take a look at this.
- 490
- 00:28:12,134 --> 00:28:13,966
- Any of you guys see that piece
- on the hijacking?
- 491
- 00:28:13,968 --> 00:28:15,100
- Jeez, there's been
- another hijacking?
- 492
- 00:28:15,102 --> 00:28:16,603
- You think six pages
- is enough?
- 493
- 00:28:16,605 --> 00:28:19,905
- Well, we got three columns on
- the front page. I'll take it.
- 494
- 00:28:19,907 --> 00:28:22,075
- - On the flight?
- - On the flight.
- 495
- 00:28:22,077 --> 00:28:24,277
- Can I help you, Mac?
- 496
- 00:28:24,279 --> 00:28:26,578
- Just delivering a package
- to Mr. Meetson.
- 497
- 00:28:26,580 --> 00:28:29,084
- Mattson.
- I'll see that he gets it.
- 498
- 00:28:30,285 --> 00:28:31,818
- I knew a couple
- 499
- 00:28:31,820 --> 00:28:35,254
- whose yacht was shipwrecked
- in the South Pacific.
- 500
- 00:28:35,256 --> 00:28:37,101
- Hold on, quiet.
- 501
- 00:28:37,125 --> 00:28:38,392
- I knew a couple whose yacht
- 502
- 00:28:38,394 --> 00:28:40,359
- was shipwrecked
- in the South Pacific.
- 503
- 00:28:40,361 --> 00:28:42,762
- It looks bleak,
- so the man asks...
- 504
- 00:28:42,764 --> 00:28:46,133
- "Does the will take care
- of the kids?" His wife nods.
- 505
- 00:28:46,135 --> 00:28:48,502
- "What about your mother?"
- "Yes."
- 506
- 00:28:48,504 --> 00:28:52,071
- "Okay, did we
- donate to Nixon?"
- 507
- 00:28:52,073 --> 00:28:54,874
- His wife
- shakes her head. "Yes."
- 508
- 00:28:54,876 --> 00:28:57,478
- "Did we pledge or give?"
- 509
- 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,610
- "We pledged."
- 510
- 00:28:58,612 --> 00:29:00,813
- "Thank God," shouts the man.
- "Nixon'll find us.
- 511
- 00:29:00,815 --> 00:29:01,915
- "We're saved!"
- 512
- 00:29:05,987 --> 00:29:08,620
- Well, speaking of Nixon,
- I just talked to Kissinger...
- 513
- 00:29:08,622 --> 00:29:11,457
- who was going on about the end
- of the China embargo.
- 514
- 00:29:11,459 --> 00:29:14,194
- He's convinced it's a rather
- clever geopolitical move.
- 515
- 00:29:14,196 --> 00:29:17,297
- I think
- this is our cue, ladies.
- 516
- 00:29:17,299 --> 00:29:19,132
- Someone at this table
- of luminaries
- 517
- 00:29:19,134 --> 00:29:20,666
- must have an idea
- what they're up to.
- 518
- 00:29:20,668 --> 00:29:23,069
- I wonder what his buddy
- Joe McCarthy would say.
- 519
- 00:29:23,071 --> 00:29:25,571
- The New Style Section
- did a lovely piece
- 520
- 00:29:25,573 --> 00:29:27,007
- on Lawrence Durrell.
- 521
- 00:29:27,009 --> 00:29:29,509
- It's about time
- Style had a good piece.
- 522
- 00:29:29,511 --> 00:29:31,144
- I think it's a bit improved.
- 523
- 00:29:31,146 --> 00:29:33,546
- I hear he's at work on
- another series of novels.
- 524
- 00:29:33,548 --> 00:29:36,683
- I hear he's at work on finding
- a fourth wife.
- 525
- 00:29:36,685 --> 00:29:38,351
- I will say, he's
- one of the few individuals...
- 526
- 00:29:38,353 --> 00:29:40,253
- who could probably cozy up
- to communist China...
- 527
- 00:29:40,255 --> 00:29:42,121
- without fear
- of major political cost.
- 528
- 00:29:42,123 --> 00:29:43,388
- Eh, but is Nixon that smart?
- 529
- 00:29:43,390 --> 00:29:44,991
- He never laughed
- at one of my jokes.
- 530
- 00:29:47,096 --> 00:29:49,195
- Oh, Kay, I don't know
- how you do it.
- 531
- 00:29:49,197 --> 00:29:50,963
- I don't know
- how you keep up with it all
- 532
- 00:29:50,965 --> 00:29:53,032
- when you have this day job.
- 533
- 00:29:54,136 --> 00:29:55,801
- You need to read more books.
- 534
- 00:29:55,803 --> 00:29:58,637
- Kay, could I have just a word?
- 535
- 00:30:00,876 --> 00:30:01,911
- Um...
- 536
- 00:30:03,311 --> 00:30:04,944
- Everything all right?
- 537
- 00:30:04,946 --> 00:30:06,980
- - Marg okay?
- - Yes, she's fine.
- 538
- 00:30:06,982 --> 00:30:08,748
- Said the procedure
- went very well.
- 539
- 00:30:08,750 --> 00:30:10,584
- Oh, good,
- I've been meaning to...
- 540
- 00:30:10,586 --> 00:30:11,654
- I...
- 541
- 00:30:12,219 --> 00:30:13,386
- I wanted to tell you,
- 542
- 00:30:13,388 --> 00:30:15,288
- and I want you
- to hear from me first...
- 543
- 00:30:15,290 --> 00:30:17,290
- there's an article about me
- 544
- 00:30:17,292 --> 00:30:19,928
- coming out
- in The Times tomorrow.
- 545
- 00:30:21,062 --> 00:30:22,797
- It's not flattering.
- 546
- 00:30:24,099 --> 00:30:25,632
- Running? Me?
- 547
- 00:30:25,634 --> 00:30:27,599
- Now, you know me
- better than that.
- 548
- 00:30:27,601 --> 00:30:29,469
- Three days and three
- nights and not a word.
- 549
- 00:30:29,471 --> 00:30:30,636
- Well, I've been very busy.
- 550
- 00:30:30,638 --> 00:30:31,905
- For all I knew
- you were lying
- 551
- 00:30:31,907 --> 00:30:33,005
- in the gutter somewhere...
- 552
- 00:30:33,007 --> 00:30:34,440
- with a knife in your back.
- 553
- 00:30:34,442 --> 00:30:36,009
- Lying in the gutter?
- 554
- 00:30:37,279 --> 00:30:39,582
- Now, look, sweetheart,
- I'll tell you what happened.
- 555
- 00:30:40,381 --> 00:30:42,248
- I was in Birmingham.
- 556
- 00:30:42,250 --> 00:30:43,616
- Birmingham?
- 557
- 00:30:43,618 --> 00:30:44,783
- Hello?
- 558
- 00:30:44,785 --> 00:30:46,386
- Hello, Ben.
- 559
- 00:30:46,388 --> 00:30:47,686
- Hello, Katharine.
- 560
- 00:30:47,688 --> 00:30:50,656
- I'm sorry
- to bother you so late.
- 561
- 00:30:50,658 --> 00:30:53,992
- Listen, were you able to make
- any headway with Mr. Sheehan?
- 562
- 00:30:53,994 --> 00:30:56,828
- No, no. I haven't.
- 563
- 00:30:56,830 --> 00:31:01,033
- I just had an odd conversation
- with Bob McNamara...
- 564
- 00:31:01,035 --> 00:31:05,474
- and I think The Times may
- have a big story tomorrow.
- 565
- 00:31:06,107 --> 00:31:07,839
- Oh, damn it.
- 566
- 00:31:07,841 --> 00:31:10,676
- You know, he wouldn't
- give me any details...
- 567
- 00:31:10,678 --> 00:31:15,984
- but Bob said it was quite
- detrimental to him and...
- 568
- 00:31:37,571 --> 00:31:39,338
- Ben!
- 569
- 00:31:39,340 --> 00:31:41,008
- We got 'em.
- 570
- 00:31:41,010 --> 00:31:42,608
- We got 'em.
- 571
- 00:31:42,610 --> 00:31:43,643
- Huh?
- 572
- 00:31:43,645 --> 00:31:45,311
- - Yeah, quite good.
- - The happy couple.
- 573
- 00:31:45,313 --> 00:31:47,280
- - Hey, chief!
- - Mr. Bradlee.
- 574
- 00:31:47,282 --> 00:31:49,448
- So, did you
- track down Sheehan?
- 575
- 00:31:49,450 --> 00:31:53,321
- No, but, I saw a mock-up
- of tomorrow's front page.
- 576
- 00:31:53,988 --> 00:31:55,955
- There's a big gap.
- 577
- 00:31:55,957 --> 00:31:57,692
- Nothing there but the name.
- 578
- 00:32:01,929 --> 00:32:03,229
- Shit.
- 579
- 00:32:03,231 --> 00:32:04,600
- Shit.
- 580
- 00:32:05,065 --> 00:32:06,434
- Shit!
- 581
- 00:32:14,274 --> 00:32:16,275
- - Give us three.
- - Here you go.
- 582
- 00:32:16,277 --> 00:32:18,813
- Here, here, here.
- Thank you, thank you.
- 583
- 00:32:19,380 --> 00:32:20,849
- Thanks, got it.
- 584
- 00:32:26,788 --> 00:32:28,521
- General Haig, sir.
- 585
- 00:32:28,523 --> 00:32:29,822
- - Hi, Al.
- - Yes, sir.
- 586
- 00:32:29,824 --> 00:32:31,992
- What about
- the casualties last week?
- 587
- 00:32:31,994 --> 00:32:33,225
- You got that figure yet?
- 588
- 00:32:33,227 --> 00:32:35,898
- No, sir, but I think
- it's gonna be quite low.
- 589
- 00:32:36,298 --> 00:32:37,530
- Fine.
- 590
- 00:32:37,532 --> 00:32:40,399
- Okay. Nothing else of interest
- in the world today?
- 591
- 00:32:40,401 --> 00:32:42,903
- Yes, sir.
- Very significant...
- 592
- 00:32:42,905 --> 00:32:46,338
- this goddamn
- New York Times expose...
- 593
- 00:32:46,340 --> 00:32:48,139
- ...of the most
- highly classified
- 594
- 00:32:48,141 --> 00:32:49,842
- documents of the war.
- 595
- 00:32:49,844 --> 00:32:52,078
- You mean that was
- leaked out of the Pentagon?
- 596
- 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,415
- The whole study that
- was done for McNamara.
- 597
- 00:32:56,417 --> 00:33:00,654
- This is a devastating, uh,
- security breach...
- 598
- 00:33:00,656 --> 00:33:03,123
- of the greatest magnitude
- of anything I've ever seen.
- 599
- 00:33:03,125 --> 00:33:05,390
- Well, what's being
- done about it then?
- 600
- 00:33:05,392 --> 00:33:07,159
- Did we know
- this was coming out?
- 601
- 00:33:07,161 --> 00:33:08,761
- No, we did not, sir.
- 602
- 00:33:08,763 --> 00:33:10,195
- I have Doctor Kissinger.
- 603
- 00:33:10,197 --> 00:33:12,964
- Henry, the thing to me
- is just unconscionable.
- 604
- 00:33:12,966 --> 00:33:15,167
- This is treasonable action
- on the part
- 605
- 00:33:15,169 --> 00:33:17,436
- of the bastards
- that put it out.
- 606
- 00:33:17,438 --> 00:33:19,138
- I'm absolutely certain...
- 607
- 00:33:19,140 --> 00:33:22,908
- that this violates
- all sorts of security laws.
- 608
- 00:33:22,910 --> 00:33:24,609
- People have gotta
- be put to the torch
- 609
- 00:33:24,611 --> 00:33:26,581
- for this sort of thing.
- 610
- 00:33:27,881 --> 00:33:31,550
- Christ! McNamara knew
- we couldn't win in '65.
- 611
- 00:33:31,552 --> 00:33:34,455
- That's six goddamn years ago.
- 612
- 00:33:37,292 --> 00:33:38,761
- Well, at least
- we got the wedding.
- 613
- 00:33:41,596 --> 00:33:43,529
- Is anybody else tired
- of reading the news
- 614
- 00:33:43,531 --> 00:33:45,932
- instead of reporting it?
- 615
- 00:33:45,934 --> 00:33:47,099
- Do we have any leads?
- 616
- 00:33:47,101 --> 00:33:48,533
- There's a guy Phil and I know
- in Boston...
- 617
- 00:33:48,535 --> 00:33:49,636
- who worked at Defense
- 618
- 00:33:49,638 --> 00:33:50,971
- when McNamara
- commissioned the study.
- 619
- 00:33:50,973 --> 00:33:52,539
- All right, call him.
- 620
- 00:33:52,541 --> 00:33:54,406
- Anybody else?
- 621
- 00:33:54,408 --> 00:33:56,542
- So that's it?
- 622
- 00:33:56,544 --> 00:33:59,511
- Our best goddamn lead
- is coming from editorial?
- 623
- 00:33:59,513 --> 00:34:01,313
- Well, we are sucking hind tit
- 624
- 00:34:01,315 --> 00:34:02,581
- in our own backyard.
- 625
- 00:34:02,583 --> 00:34:04,517
- Ben, come on,
- it's one story.
- 626
- 00:34:04,519 --> 00:34:06,452
- No, it's 7,000 pages...
- 627
- 00:34:06,454 --> 00:34:08,553
- detailing how
- the White House has been
- 628
- 00:34:08,555 --> 00:34:10,657
- lying about the Vietnam War
- for 30 years.
- 629
- 00:34:10,659 --> 00:34:15,962
- It's Truman and Eisenhower
- and Jack and LBJ lying.
- 630
- 00:34:15,964 --> 00:34:18,264
- Lying about Vietnam.
- 631
- 00:34:18,266 --> 00:34:20,168
- And you think
- that's one story?
- 632
- 00:34:21,335 --> 00:34:23,104
- Let's do our jobs.
- 633
- 00:34:24,505 --> 00:34:26,040
- Find those pages!
- 634
- 00:34:30,779 --> 00:34:32,378
- Ben, uh...
- 635
- 00:34:32,380 --> 00:34:34,947
- I might have something.
- Maybe.
- 636
- 00:34:34,949 --> 00:34:37,983
- Well, let me know when it's
- a little less wishy-washy.
- 637
- 00:34:37,985 --> 00:34:41,190
- I'm gonna go chase down
- a lead of my own.
- 638
- 00:34:45,192 --> 00:34:48,228
- Why don't you cut
- your bangs, just a little bit?
- 639
- 00:34:48,230 --> 00:34:49,965
- Mummy,
- I'm right in the middle.
- 640
- 00:34:55,670 --> 00:34:58,438
- It's a bit hard to read,
- isn't it?
- 641
- 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,043
- Harder for you, I imagine.
- 642
- 00:35:01,442 --> 00:35:02,743
- No.
- 643
- 00:35:03,045 --> 00:35:04,246
- Why?
- 644
- 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,579
- These were your people...
- 645
- 00:35:06,581 --> 00:35:09,983
- McNamara and Kennedy
- and Johnson.
- 646
- 00:35:09,985 --> 00:35:12,552
- Well, Jack and Lyndon
- were your father's friends.
- 647
- 00:35:12,554 --> 00:35:13,987
- You flew down to Texas
- with Lyndon
- 648
- 00:35:13,989 --> 00:35:15,387
- the weekend
- after his convention.
- 649
- 00:35:15,389 --> 00:35:17,657
- That's your fault. You wanted
- to see his helicopter land.
- 650
- 00:35:17,659 --> 00:35:19,924
- And the instant he saw you,
- he invited you to the ranch.
- 651
- 00:35:19,926 --> 00:35:22,328
- Oh, well, he just wanted
- the paper to endorse.
- 652
- 00:35:22,330 --> 00:35:23,596
- Yes, but my point is
- 653
- 00:35:23,598 --> 00:35:25,565
- you had Steve and Bill
- waiting at home.
- 654
- 00:35:25,567 --> 00:35:26,766
- - You had houseguests...
- - I know.
- 655
- 00:35:26,768 --> 00:35:28,099
- ...waiting at the farm.
- 656
- 00:35:28,101 --> 00:35:29,768
- You had nothing but dirty
- clothes in your suitcase.
- 657
- 00:35:29,770 --> 00:35:31,270
- How do you know what
- I had in my suitcase?
- 658
- 00:35:31,272 --> 00:35:32,371
- Yet you jumped
- on Air Force One,
- 659
- 00:35:32,373 --> 00:35:33,440
- spent the weekend...
- 660
- 00:35:33,442 --> 00:35:34,507
- I did not jump.
- 661
- 00:35:34,509 --> 00:35:35,775
- ...swimming
- and speed-boating...
- 662
- 00:35:35,777 --> 00:35:37,342
- You and Luvie Pearson
- said I had to go!
- 663
- 00:35:37,344 --> 00:35:38,913
- ...with Lyndon
- and Lady Bird.
- 664
- 00:35:44,085 --> 00:35:46,686
- It's hard to say...
- 665
- 00:35:46,688 --> 00:35:49,556
- "no" to the President
- of the United States.
- 666
- 00:35:54,228 --> 00:35:56,228
- Were you expecting someone?
- 667
- 00:35:56,230 --> 00:35:57,999
- At this hour?
- 668
- 00:36:03,270 --> 00:36:05,337
- I hope I'm not too early.
- 669
- 00:36:05,339 --> 00:36:07,907
- Not at all.
- Must be urgent.
- 670
- 00:36:07,909 --> 00:36:09,708
- Where's your sister?
- 671
- 00:36:11,980 --> 00:36:14,012
- That's my tea, darling.
- 672
- 00:36:14,014 --> 00:36:16,983
- Where's your sister?
- Let's go find her.
- 673
- 00:36:16,985 --> 00:36:18,754
- Let's go find her.
- 674
- 00:36:21,089 --> 00:36:23,659
- I trust you saw
- The New York Times.
- 675
- 00:36:24,125 --> 00:36:25,157
- Hmm.
- 676
- 00:36:25,159 --> 00:36:27,492
- The study, the one
- they are working off of...
- 677
- 00:36:27,494 --> 00:36:29,027
- that was commissioned
- by Robert McNamara.
- 678
- 00:36:29,029 --> 00:36:30,096
- Yeah.
- 679
- 00:36:30,098 --> 00:36:32,498
- And if he commissioned it,
- he might have a copy.
- 680
- 00:36:37,804 --> 00:36:40,540
- I don't need to tell you
- that finding a source...
- 681
- 00:36:40,542 --> 00:36:42,442
- it's like finding a
- needle in a haystack.
- 682
- 00:36:42,444 --> 00:36:43,641
- I don't need the metaphor.
- 683
- 00:36:43,643 --> 00:36:44,710
- Well, I haven't been a writer
- 684
- 00:36:44,712 --> 00:36:46,045
- for a while
- so that old cliche...
- 685
- 00:36:46,047 --> 00:36:48,215
- that was the best comparison
- I could come up with.
- 686
- 00:36:49,583 --> 00:36:52,286
- I need a copy
- of that study, Kay.
- 687
- 00:36:53,822 --> 00:36:55,520
- Give her the ball, Ben.
- 688
- 00:36:55,522 --> 00:36:57,058
- - Here you go.
- - Thank you.
- 689
- 00:36:59,426 --> 00:37:02,128
- You know, Ben,
- as much as I do relish
- 690
- 00:37:02,130 --> 00:37:03,932
- a good investigative
- assignment...
- 691
- 00:37:05,366 --> 00:37:08,067
- Bob McNamara is an old friend.
- 692
- 00:37:08,069 --> 00:37:10,369
- He's going through a lot
- in his life right now.
- 693
- 00:37:10,371 --> 00:37:13,706
- I just think he's probably
- said all he wants to say.
- 694
- 00:37:13,708 --> 00:37:16,009
- Why do you think?
- 695
- 00:37:16,011 --> 00:37:17,308
- - Why?
- - Why?
- 696
- 00:37:17,310 --> 00:37:18,777
- Why is he talking to you?
- 697
- 00:37:18,779 --> 00:37:21,146
- Well, I just told you,
- he's my friend and...
- 698
- 00:37:21,148 --> 00:37:23,951
- Is he talking to
- any other friends?
- 699
- 00:37:25,487 --> 00:37:26,851
- I'm not sure
- 700
- 00:37:26,853 --> 00:37:28,954
- I appreciate the implication
- of what you just said.
- 701
- 00:37:28,956 --> 00:37:31,257
- McNamara is talking
- to you...
- 702
- 00:37:31,259 --> 00:37:33,592
- because you are the publisher
- of The Washington Post.
- 703
- 00:37:33,594 --> 00:37:35,427
- That's not true.
- No, that is not why.
- 704
- 00:37:35,429 --> 00:37:37,329
- Because he wants you
- to bail him out.
- 705
- 00:37:37,331 --> 00:37:38,431
- Because he wants you
- on his side.
- 706
- 00:37:38,433 --> 00:37:39,697
- No, there's no ulterior...
- No!
- 707
- 00:37:39,699 --> 00:37:42,201
- Ben, that's not my role.
- You know that.
- 708
- 00:37:42,203 --> 00:37:45,337
- I wouldn't presume to tell you
- how to write about him.
- 709
- 00:37:45,339 --> 00:37:49,041
- Just as I wouldn't
- take it upon myself...
- 710
- 00:37:49,043 --> 00:37:53,012
- to tell him he should hand
- over a classified study...
- 711
- 00:37:53,014 --> 00:37:55,648
- which would be a crime,
- by the way...
- 712
- 00:37:55,650 --> 00:37:58,754
- just so he can serve
- as your source.
- 713
- 00:37:59,554 --> 00:38:02,057
- Our source, Katharine.
- 714
- 00:38:13,735 --> 00:38:15,168
- No. Uh... No...
- 715
- 00:38:15,170 --> 00:38:19,137
- I'm not. I'm not going to ask
- Bob for the study.
- 716
- 00:38:19,139 --> 00:38:20,139
- All right.
- 717
- 00:38:20,141 --> 00:38:21,739
- I get it.
- You have a relationship
- 718
- 00:38:21,741 --> 00:38:23,942
- with Bob McNamara.
- 719
- 00:38:23,944 --> 00:38:27,045
- But don't you think you have
- an obligation as well
- 720
- 00:38:27,047 --> 00:38:28,947
- to the paper
- and to the public?
- 721
- 00:38:28,949 --> 00:38:30,650
- Let me ask you something.
- 722
- 00:38:30,652 --> 00:38:32,585
- Was that how you felt
- when you were
- 723
- 00:38:32,587 --> 00:38:34,552
- palling around
- with Jack Kennedy?
- 724
- 00:38:34,554 --> 00:38:36,554
- Where was
- your sense of duty then?
- 725
- 00:38:36,556 --> 00:38:40,659
- I don't recall you pushing him
- particularly hard on anything.
- 726
- 00:38:40,661 --> 00:38:43,496
- I pushed Jack when I had to.
- 727
- 00:38:43,498 --> 00:38:45,264
- I never pulled any punches.
- 728
- 00:38:45,266 --> 00:38:46,431
- Is that right?
- 729
- 00:38:46,433 --> 00:38:49,601
- 'Cause you used to dine at
- the White House once a week.
- 730
- 00:38:49,603 --> 00:38:51,871
- All the trips to Camp David.
- 731
- 00:38:51,873 --> 00:38:53,840
- Oh, and that drunken
- birthday cruise
- 732
- 00:38:53,842 --> 00:38:56,177
- on the Sequoia
- you told me about.
- 733
- 00:38:57,811 --> 00:38:59,043
- Hard to believe you would have
- 734
- 00:38:59,045 --> 00:39:00,980
- gotten
- all those invitations...
- 735
- 00:39:00,982 --> 00:39:04,085
- if you didn't
- pull a few punches.
- 736
- 00:39:09,056 --> 00:39:10,623
- Street protests
- broke out today
- 737
- 00:39:10,625 --> 00:39:11,857
- across the country...
- 738
- 00:39:11,859 --> 00:39:13,458
- after the publication
- of more excerpts...
- 739
- 00:39:13,460 --> 00:39:15,694
- from a classified
- Department of Defense study
- 740
- 00:39:15,696 --> 00:39:17,395
- in The New York Times.
- 741
- 00:39:17,397 --> 00:39:18,398
- The study, commissioned
- 742
- 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,965
- by former Secretary of Defense
- Robert McNamara...
- 743
- 00:39:20,967 --> 00:39:22,335
- has ignited further debate
- 744
- 00:39:22,337 --> 00:39:24,436
- over the ongoing war
- in Vietnam...
- 745
- 00:39:24,438 --> 00:39:27,005
- as it makes clear
- that Kennedy and Johnson...
- 746
- 00:39:27,007 --> 00:39:29,041
- as well as
- Eisenhower and Truman,
- 747
- 00:39:29,043 --> 00:39:31,911
- deeply misled
- the country on Vietnam.
- 748
- 00:39:31,913 --> 00:39:33,779
- The bombshell series
- has appeared
- 749
- 00:39:33,781 --> 00:39:36,148
- for the last two days
- in The New York Times.
- 750
- 00:39:36,150 --> 00:39:38,550
- We don't want
- your stinking war.
- 751
- 00:39:38,552 --> 00:39:40,152
- One, two, three, four.
- 752
- 00:39:40,154 --> 00:39:42,491
- We don't want
- your stinking war.
- 753
- 00:39:44,292 --> 00:39:45,791
- ♪ I've walked and I've crawled
- on six crooked highways ♪
- 754
- 00:39:45,793 --> 00:39:49,128
- Not for what is politic
- but for what is right.
- 755
- 00:39:49,130 --> 00:39:50,061
- Right!
- 756
- 00:39:50,063 --> 00:39:52,697
- Like my brother Mario said...
- 757
- 00:39:52,699 --> 00:39:54,967
- "There is a time
- when the operation
- 758
- 00:39:54,969 --> 00:39:57,103
- "of the machine
- becomes so odious...
- 759
- 00:39:57,105 --> 00:40:00,005
- "that you've got to put
- your body upon the gears...
- 760
- 00:40:00,007 --> 00:40:02,674
- "and upon the wheels,
- and upon the levers...
- 761
- 00:40:02,676 --> 00:40:04,911
- "and you've got to
- make it stop."
- 762
- 00:40:04,913 --> 00:40:06,244
- One, two, three four.
- 763
- 00:40:06,246 --> 00:40:08,547
- We don't want
- your stinking war.
- 764
- 00:40:08,549 --> 00:40:11,049
- Someone gives up his life,
- 765
- 00:40:11,051 --> 00:40:12,784
- so that the President...
- 766
- 00:40:12,786 --> 00:40:14,654
- doesn't have
- to admit something
- 767
- 00:40:14,656 --> 00:40:16,221
- the entire world
- already knows.
- 768
- 00:40:16,223 --> 00:40:17,855
- Your dinner
- with Mr. and Mrs. Rosenthal
- 769
- 00:40:17,857 --> 00:40:19,058
- is at seven in the Oak Room...
- 770
- 00:40:19,060 --> 00:40:20,358
- and then I'll meet you
- tomorrow morning
- 771
- 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:21,226
- in the lobby at eight...
- 772
- 00:40:21,228 --> 00:40:22,295
- so you'll have plenty of time
- 773
- 00:40:22,297 --> 00:40:23,596
- to get downtown
- before the offering.
- 774
- 00:40:23,598 --> 00:40:24,963
- And the breakfast.
- 775
- 00:40:24,965 --> 00:40:27,366
- "All designed to meet
- these five desiderata."
- 776
- 00:40:29,737 --> 00:40:30,837
- Bagdikian.
- 777
- 00:40:30,839 --> 00:40:32,337
- It's Harry Rowen.
- 778
- 00:40:32,339 --> 00:40:36,343
- Hey, uh, let me call you back
- from outside the newsroom.
- 779
- 00:40:58,965 --> 00:41:03,101
- Excuse me,
- are you important?
- 780
- 00:41:03,103 --> 00:41:05,404
- I'm a general
- assignment reporter.
- 781
- 00:41:05,406 --> 00:41:06,907
- Okay.
- 782
- 00:41:38,973 --> 00:41:40,973
- Uh, I think I got something.
- 783
- 00:41:40,975 --> 00:41:42,442
- Be my guest.
- 784
- 00:41:42,444 --> 00:41:43,976
- Can we lose The New York
- Times from the nut graph?
- 785
- 00:41:43,978 --> 00:41:45,344
- Ben, they are
- the source of the story.
- 786
- 00:41:45,346 --> 00:41:47,413
- Every time I read The New York
- Times above the fold...
- 787
- 00:41:47,415 --> 00:41:48,547
- - Mr. Bradlee?
- - No.
- 788
- 00:41:48,549 --> 00:41:50,449
- I feel like somebody's shoving
- a hot poker up my ass.
- 789
- 00:41:50,451 --> 00:41:51,750
- All right, just say The Times,
- 790
- 00:41:51,752 --> 00:41:52,951
- and drop it
- a graph below the fold.
- 791
- 00:41:52,953 --> 00:41:54,020
- There you go.
- 792
- 00:41:54,022 --> 00:41:55,322
- That would
- be less painful.
- 793
- 00:41:55,989 --> 00:41:57,389
- I think I got something.
- 794
- 00:41:57,391 --> 00:41:59,291
- "McNaughton had McNamara
- plan for action."
- 795
- 00:41:59,293 --> 00:42:01,793
- Well, that's two months
- before the election.
- 796
- 00:42:01,795 --> 00:42:03,295
- "Suggested
- sending large numbers
- 797
- 00:42:03,297 --> 00:42:04,929
- "of U.S. forces to interlard."
- 798
- 00:42:04,931 --> 00:42:06,065
- "Interlard"?
- 799
- 00:42:06,067 --> 00:42:07,132
- Where'd you get these?
- 800
- 00:42:07,134 --> 00:42:08,433
- Somebody left them on my desk.
- 801
- 00:42:08,435 --> 00:42:09,902
- All these guys
- sound like they sleep
- 802
- 00:42:09,904 --> 00:42:11,406
- with a damn thesaurus.
- 803
- 00:42:12,505 --> 00:42:15,574
- So McNaughton was secretly
- suggesting to McNamara...
- 804
- 00:42:15,576 --> 00:42:16,608
- to provoke the North so we'd
- 805
- 00:42:16,610 --> 00:42:17,877
- - have grounds for escalation?
- - Yep.
- 806
- 00:42:17,879 --> 00:42:19,512
- Yeah, it was
- in The Times article.
- 807
- 00:42:19,514 --> 00:42:21,279
- It was a good piece.
- You should check it out.
- 808
- 00:42:21,281 --> 00:42:22,648
- - It was well-written.
- - Jesus Christ.
- 809
- 00:42:22,650 --> 00:42:25,016
- Give it to someone who can't
- type 91 words a minute...
- 810
- 00:42:25,018 --> 00:42:26,819
- and have it proofed, okay?
- 811
- 00:42:26,821 --> 00:42:28,119
- - Ben?
- - Yeah?
- 812
- 00:42:28,121 --> 00:42:29,855
- I think we got something.
- 813
- 00:42:29,857 --> 00:42:31,293
- What is it?
- 814
- 00:42:39,366 --> 00:42:40,668
- Jesus Christ.
- 815
- 00:42:41,536 --> 00:42:42,934
- Shit. Are these
- 816
- 00:42:42,936 --> 00:42:44,536
- part of the pages
- of the McNamara study?
- 817
- 00:42:44,538 --> 00:42:45,704
- Where did you get these?
- 818
- 00:42:45,706 --> 00:42:47,440
- Somebody left them on my desk.
- 819
- 00:42:47,442 --> 00:42:48,474
- On your desk?
- 820
- 00:42:48,476 --> 00:42:50,909
- - I didn't... It was a woman.
- - A woman?
- 821
- 00:42:50,911 --> 00:42:53,645
- We got over 100 pages
- of the McNamara study here.
- 822
- 00:42:53,647 --> 00:42:55,648
- A hippie woman.
- 823
- 00:42:55,650 --> 00:42:57,181
- Hey, Debbie,
- get me Bagdikian.
- 824
- 00:42:57,183 --> 00:42:58,282
- She had one of those skirts...
- 825
- 00:42:58,284 --> 00:43:00,253
- He's out.
- He went somewhere.
- 826
- 00:43:00,255 --> 00:43:01,119
- Fine.
- 827
- 00:43:01,121 --> 00:43:02,520
- Probably
- between 5'4 " and 5'6"...
- 828
- 00:43:02,522 --> 00:43:06,791
- If these are the real thing,
- we are back in the ballgame.
- 829
- 00:43:06,793 --> 00:43:08,226
- It was a tie-dye skirt.
- 830
- 00:43:08,228 --> 00:43:11,395
- And this is gonna be the front
- page of tomorrow's paper.
- 831
- 00:43:11,397 --> 00:43:15,502
- Um... Give it to Marder.
- It's his lucky day.
- 832
- 00:43:21,743 --> 00:43:24,011
- My God, the fun.
- 833
- 00:43:25,946 --> 00:43:27,212
- RAND Corporation.
- 834
- 00:43:27,214 --> 00:43:28,750
- Harry Rowen, please.
- 835
- 00:43:34,054 --> 00:43:35,288
- This is Harry.
- 836
- 00:43:35,290 --> 00:43:37,288
- Harry, it's Ben Bagdikian.
- 837
- 00:43:37,290 --> 00:43:39,424
- You think someone's
- bugging your phone?
- 838
- 00:43:39,426 --> 00:43:43,061
- I think someone
- might be bugging yours.
- 839
- 00:43:43,063 --> 00:43:45,663
- Why would someone
- bug my phone?
- 840
- 00:43:45,665 --> 00:43:47,032
- If I thought
- the McNamara study
- 841
- 00:43:47,034 --> 00:43:48,266
- had leaked from RAND...
- 842
- 00:43:48,268 --> 00:43:51,570
- I'd bug the phone of the
- president of RAND.
- 843
- 00:43:51,572 --> 00:43:53,271
- It's a DoD study.
- 844
- 00:43:53,273 --> 00:43:55,808
- A copy of which was sent to
- RAND for safekeeping.
- 845
- 00:43:55,810 --> 00:43:59,478
- Two copies,
- if I'm not mistaken.
- 846
- 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,514
- Jesus Christ, Ben, that leak
- didn't come from us.
- 847
- 00:44:02,516 --> 00:44:04,152
- You sure about that?
- 848
- 00:44:04,752 --> 00:44:06,252
- Look, in my experience...
- 849
- 00:44:06,254 --> 00:44:08,020
- guys who
- want stuff like this out there
- 850
- 00:44:08,022 --> 00:44:09,221
- and have the guts to do it...
- 851
- 00:44:09,223 --> 00:44:10,521
- they're a particular type.
- 852
- 00:44:10,523 --> 00:44:12,123
- They've got conscience
- and conviction...
- 853
- 00:44:12,125 --> 00:44:14,393
- but they've also got ego.
- 854
- 00:44:14,395 --> 00:44:16,929
- Now, there's a guy that
- we both know, okay?
- 855
- 00:44:16,931 --> 00:44:18,764
- He was there
- the same time as I was.
- 856
- 00:44:18,766 --> 00:44:20,199
- He left right after.
- 857
- 00:44:20,201 --> 00:44:22,134
- You know
- who I'm talking about, right?
- 858
- 00:44:22,136 --> 00:44:23,536
- Isn't he the first guy
- you thought of
- 859
- 00:44:23,538 --> 00:44:26,206
- when you saw
- the article in The Times?
- 860
- 00:44:28,576 --> 00:44:31,476
- Okay, look, I gotta go.
- 861
- 00:44:38,851 --> 00:44:40,219
- Mr. and Mrs. Rosenthal.
- 862
- 00:44:40,221 --> 00:44:42,290
- - Oh, yes, I see.
- - You're welcome.
- 863
- 00:44:44,058 --> 00:44:45,190
- I don't wanna push it.
- 864
- 00:44:45,192 --> 00:44:46,826
- - Hi.
- - Ah, Kay.
- 865
- 00:44:46,828 --> 00:44:47,992
- What a treat!
- 866
- 00:44:47,994 --> 00:44:49,762
- I'm just going to
- apologize in advance.
- 867
- 00:44:49,764 --> 00:44:51,130
- Great to see you.
- 868
- 00:44:51,132 --> 00:44:54,833
- I'm no fun at all, Abe.
- I'm just so nervous...
- 869
- 00:44:54,835 --> 00:44:56,335
- about tomorrow
- at the stock exchange.
- 870
- 00:44:56,337 --> 00:44:57,936
- And I have to make
- a big speech.
- 871
- 00:44:57,938 --> 00:44:59,538
- - No, no, no, no.
- - Poor you.
- 872
- 00:44:59,540 --> 00:45:02,007
- No, going public is
- a good move for The Post.
- 873
- 00:45:02,009 --> 00:45:04,108
- Maybe you can even think
- about expanding.
- 874
- 00:45:04,110 --> 00:45:06,411
- Try to be more
- of a national paper.
- 875
- 00:45:06,413 --> 00:45:08,213
- I wish Abe would
- let me buy shares.
- 876
- 00:45:08,215 --> 00:45:10,148
- That's against
- company policy...
- 877
- 00:45:10,150 --> 00:45:12,684
- but if you're nervous
- and need distraction...
- 878
- 00:45:12,686 --> 00:45:15,822
- I do happen to have a copy
- of today's Times.
- 879
- 00:45:15,824 --> 00:45:16,825
- Abe!
- 880
- 00:45:17,824 --> 00:45:19,424
- Unless you read it already.
- 881
- 00:45:19,426 --> 00:45:22,895
- Oh, you awful man.
- You really are.
- 882
- 00:45:22,897 --> 00:45:24,329
- Can we get you
- something to drink?
- 883
- 00:45:24,331 --> 00:45:26,599
- Bundy argues
- for sustained bombing.
- 884
- 00:45:26,601 --> 00:45:27,565
- Great stuff.
- 885
- 00:45:27,567 --> 00:45:28,833
- He thinks
- it'll turn the tide.
- 886
- 00:45:28,835 --> 00:45:30,034
- This is February of '65.
- 887
- 00:45:30,036 --> 00:45:31,404
- Jesus Christ.
- 888
- 00:45:31,406 --> 00:45:33,739
- But by April, they realize
- it's not gonna cut it...
- 889
- 00:45:33,741 --> 00:45:35,507
- and LBJ sends two battalions.
- 890
- 00:45:35,509 --> 00:45:36,875
- - Great stuff.
- - And get this.
- 891
- 00:45:36,877 --> 00:45:38,311
- He changes the mission
- 892
- 00:45:38,313 --> 00:45:40,411
- from base security
- to active combat.
- 893
- 00:45:40,413 --> 00:45:42,348
- - My God.
- - It's a huge shift.
- 894
- 00:45:42,350 --> 00:45:43,882
- He's widening the war.
- 895
- 00:45:43,884 --> 00:45:45,550
- But he insists on secrecy.
- 896
- 00:45:45,552 --> 00:45:47,186
- The American people are
- not to be told.
- 897
- 00:45:47,188 --> 00:45:48,654
- All right, okay.
- So this is the real deal...
- 898
- 00:45:48,656 --> 00:45:50,456
- so how long
- till you can write it up?
- 899
- 00:45:50,458 --> 00:45:52,123
- I can have it for Thursday.
- 900
- 00:45:52,125 --> 00:45:53,259
- Well, what if we pretend
- 901
- 00:45:53,261 --> 00:45:55,460
- you're a reporter,
- not a novelist?
- 902
- 00:45:55,462 --> 00:45:56,962
- Uh, I suppose I could pull
- 903
- 00:45:56,964 --> 00:45:58,396
- something together
- by tomorrow night.
- 904
- 00:45:58,398 --> 00:46:00,400
- Okay, we can
- run it on Wednesday.
- 905
- 00:46:01,569 --> 00:46:03,335
- I know
- we need to get this out, Ben,
- 906
- 00:46:03,337 --> 00:46:04,770
- but I'd like to
- spend a minute...
- 907
- 00:46:04,772 --> 00:46:07,172
- going through what we've got
- on Rolling Thunder.
- 908
- 00:46:07,174 --> 00:46:08,741
- Go through
- all the research you want...
- 909
- 00:46:08,743 --> 00:46:10,509
- but so help me God,
- if we don't have
- 910
- 00:46:10,511 --> 00:46:12,143
- these pages
- by tomorrow night...
- 911
- 00:46:12,145 --> 00:46:13,445
- we might as well
- not have them at all.
- 912
- 00:46:13,447 --> 00:46:14,516
- Too late.
- 913
- 00:46:15,715 --> 00:46:16,782
- What?
- 914
- 00:46:16,784 --> 00:46:18,186
- Times already has it.
- 915
- 00:46:22,121 --> 00:46:23,454
- Well, of course they have it.
- 916
- 00:46:23,456 --> 00:46:25,724
- "President Johnson
- decided on April 1, 1965..."
- 917
- 00:46:25,726 --> 00:46:28,460
- Of course The Times had...
- Written by Neil Sheehan.
- 918
- 00:46:28,462 --> 00:46:31,096
- "...because
- a month of bombing..."
- 919
- 00:46:31,098 --> 00:46:32,498
- Neil Sheehan's a bastard.
- 920
- 00:46:32,500 --> 00:46:33,965
- He's been a bastard for years.
- 921
- 00:46:33,967 --> 00:46:35,833
- Mr. President,
- the Attorney General
- 922
- 00:46:35,835 --> 00:46:37,235
- has called a couple times...
- 923
- 00:46:37,237 --> 00:46:40,172
- about these
- New York Times stories.
- 924
- 00:46:40,174 --> 00:46:41,907
- You mean to
- prosecute The Times?
- 925
- 00:46:41,909 --> 00:46:43,342
- Hell, my view is
- 926
- 00:46:43,344 --> 00:46:45,244
- to prosecute the goddamn
- pricks that gave it to 'em.
- 927
- 00:46:45,246 --> 00:46:46,344
- If you can
- find out who that is.
- 928
- 00:46:46,346 --> 00:46:47,478
- Yeah, I know.
- 929
- 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,313
- I mean, could The Times
- be prosecuted?
- 930
- 00:46:49,315 --> 00:46:51,382
- Apparently so.
- 931
- 00:46:51,384 --> 00:46:52,550
- As far as
- The Times is concerned,
- 932
- 00:46:52,552 --> 00:46:53,886
- hell, they're our enemies.
- 933
- 00:46:53,888 --> 00:46:56,654
- I think we just oughta do it.
- 934
- 00:46:56,656 --> 00:46:58,592
- Son of a bitch.
- 935
- 00:47:01,763 --> 00:47:02,929
- Abe Rosenthal.
- 936
- 00:47:02,931 --> 00:47:05,699
- Good evening. Their table
- is right over there, sir.
- 937
- 00:47:07,268 --> 00:47:09,268
- Brownell and Loeb over
- at Lord Day and Lord...
- 938
- 00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:12,637
- told Punch in no uncertain
- terms not to publish.
- 939
- 00:47:12,639 --> 00:47:14,806
- Only after Scotty Reston
- threatened
- 940
- 00:47:14,808 --> 00:47:16,407
- to publish
- in the Vineyard Gazette...
- 941
- 00:47:16,409 --> 00:47:18,043
- did Punch decide to print.
- 942
- 00:47:18,045 --> 00:47:20,579
- Wouldn't have had
- quite the same impact.
- 943
- 00:47:21,681 --> 00:47:22,683
- Jimmy.
- 944
- 00:47:24,551 --> 00:47:28,721
- We've been asked to refrain
- from further publication...
- 945
- 00:47:28,723 --> 00:47:30,858
- by the Attorney General.
- 946
- 00:47:32,259 --> 00:47:34,762
- Nixon's taking us to court?
- 947
- 00:47:40,835 --> 00:47:42,534
- Kay, I'm sorry...
- 948
- 00:47:42,536 --> 00:47:43,804
- Oh, no.
- 949
- 00:47:47,540 --> 00:47:48,676
- Gosh.
- 950
- 00:47:53,413 --> 00:47:55,279
- Why don't I go get the check?
- 951
- 00:47:55,281 --> 00:47:56,782
- No, sit tight,
- don't argue with me.
- 952
- 00:47:56,784 --> 00:47:58,720
- I'll be right back.
- 953
- 00:48:03,891 --> 00:48:06,358
- Mr. Rosenthal
- had to leave on business.
- 954
- 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,259
- Certainly,
- we'll put it on his tab.
- 955
- 00:48:08,261 --> 00:48:09,494
- No, I'll take the bill,
- 956
- 00:48:09,496 --> 00:48:12,230
- but could I trouble you
- to use your telephone?
- 957
- 00:48:12,232 --> 00:48:13,667
- But of course, madam.
- 958
- 00:48:21,375 --> 00:48:23,476
- There's a fella I overlapped
- with at RAND.
- 959
- 00:48:23,478 --> 00:48:25,576
- He was a bit of
- a showboat, but smart.
- 960
- 00:48:25,578 --> 00:48:27,279
- And he worked for McNamara...
- 961
- 00:48:27,281 --> 00:48:28,512
- and he had opinions
- 962
- 00:48:28,514 --> 00:48:31,616
- on the decision-making
- that went into Vietnam.
- 963
- 00:48:31,618 --> 00:48:32,516
- Okay.
- 964
- 00:48:32,518 --> 00:48:35,454
- Word is, he doved.
- Pretty hard.
- 965
- 00:48:35,456 --> 00:48:37,523
- Would he have access
- to the study?
- 966
- 00:48:37,525 --> 00:48:39,625
- Pretty sure RAND had a copy.
- 967
- 00:48:39,627 --> 00:48:42,828
- No shit. All right,
- well, can you find him?
- 968
- 00:48:42,830 --> 00:48:44,996
- Thought maybe I'd try.
- 969
- 00:48:48,301 --> 00:48:50,704
- I've got
- Mrs. Graham on the line.
- 970
- 00:48:51,906 --> 00:48:53,639
- Katharine.
- 971
- 00:48:53,641 --> 00:48:57,409
- Hey, listen,
- I've got tomorrow's headline.
- 972
- 00:48:57,411 --> 00:49:00,478
- Oh, Christ, okay, again?
- 973
- 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,614
- John Mitchell contacted
- The Times.
- 974
- 00:49:02,616 --> 00:49:05,753
- Seems the President is going
- to seek an injunction.
- 975
- 00:49:06,319 --> 00:49:08,286
- No, shit.
- 976
- 00:49:08,288 --> 00:49:10,554
- This means that we're in
- the goddamn ballgame.
- 977
- 00:49:10,556 --> 00:49:12,791
- Because if The Times
- gets shut down...
- 978
- 00:49:12,793 --> 00:49:13,893
- If they get shut down,
- 979
- 00:49:13,895 --> 00:49:16,762
- there is no ballgame.
- Ballgame's over.
- 980
- 00:49:16,764 --> 00:49:17,795
- Now, Katharine,
- 981
- 00:49:17,797 --> 00:49:20,433
- anybody would kill
- to have a crack at this.
- 982
- 00:49:20,435 --> 00:49:23,235
- Well, sure, but not if it
- means breaking the law.
- 983
- 00:49:23,237 --> 00:49:27,405
- If a federal judge stops
- The Times from publishing...
- 984
- 00:49:27,407 --> 00:49:29,875
- well, I don't see how
- we could publish...
- 985
- 00:49:29,877 --> 00:49:32,612
- even if we could
- get hold of a copy.
- 986
- 00:49:35,348 --> 00:49:38,518
- Ben?
- You have something?
- 987
- 00:49:39,619 --> 00:49:41,253
- No.
- 988
- 00:49:41,255 --> 00:49:44,355
- Okay, so then there's
- nothing to talk about really.
- 989
- 00:49:44,357 --> 00:49:47,425
- No, nothing
- to talk about at all...
- 990
- 00:49:47,427 --> 00:49:50,462
- but thank you for the tip,
- Mrs. Graham.
- 991
- 00:49:51,565 --> 00:49:53,801
- What are you still doing here?
- 992
- 00:50:17,558 --> 00:50:19,060
- Excuse me.
- 993
- 00:50:22,830 --> 00:50:24,098
- All right.
- 994
- 00:50:26,933 --> 00:50:28,199
- Oh, there she is.
- 995
- 00:50:28,201 --> 00:50:29,800
- - Hello.
- - How are ya, Kay?
- 996
- 00:50:29,802 --> 00:50:32,070
- Good morning, everyone.
- Good to see you.
- 997
- 00:50:32,072 --> 00:50:32,938
- Hello?
- 998
- 00:50:32,940 --> 00:50:34,639
- Yeah, I'm looking
- for Dan Ellsberg.
- 999
- 00:50:34,641 --> 00:50:36,407
- He doesn't work here anymore.
- 1000
- 00:50:36,409 --> 00:50:38,242
- Do you know where he is now?
- 1001
- 00:50:38,244 --> 00:50:40,378
- No, I don't. Who is this?
- 1002
- 00:50:40,380 --> 00:50:41,846
- Thank you.
- 1003
- 00:50:41,848 --> 00:50:44,416
- And it is
- my great privilege to welcome
- 1004
- 00:50:44,418 --> 00:50:46,518
- The Washington Post Company...
- 1005
- 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,022
- to the American
- Stock Exchange.
- 1006
- 00:50:53,761 --> 00:50:56,261
- More than a privilege,
- Mrs. Graham.
- 1007
- 00:50:56,263 --> 00:50:57,797
- This is a real honor.
- 1008
- 00:50:58,764 --> 00:50:59,864
- Hello, this is Karen.
- 1009
- 00:50:59,866 --> 00:51:01,299
- Yeah, I'm looking
- for Dan Ellsberg.
- 1010
- 00:51:01,301 --> 00:51:02,904
- You got the wrong number.
- 1011
- 00:51:05,205 --> 00:51:06,304
- Speech.
- 1012
- 00:51:06,306 --> 00:51:08,643
- Go and project
- confidence, Kay.
- 1013
- 00:51:10,444 --> 00:51:11,646
- Gentlemen...
- 1014
- 00:51:12,411 --> 00:51:14,978
- thank you all for helping make
- 1015
- 00:51:14,980 --> 00:51:17,784
- The Washington Post
- a more robust company.
- 1016
- 00:51:19,786 --> 00:51:21,552
- Center
- for International Studies.
- 1017
- 00:51:21,554 --> 00:51:23,355
- Yeah, I'm looking
- for Dan Ellsberg.
- 1018
- 00:51:23,357 --> 00:51:24,891
- He's not here.
- 1019
- 00:51:26,058 --> 00:51:27,692
- But he still works there?
- 1020
- 00:51:27,694 --> 00:51:30,661
- Yes. Can I take a message?
- 1021
- 00:51:30,663 --> 00:51:33,431
- Uh, tell him
- Ben Bagdikian called.
- 1022
- 00:51:33,433 --> 00:51:34,532
- Congratulations.
- 1023
- 00:51:34,534 --> 00:51:35,599
- Guys, why don't we
- 1024
- 00:51:35,601 --> 00:51:36,934
- get together for a photograph?
- 1025
- 00:51:36,936 --> 00:51:38,103
- - Yes.
- - Good idea. Absolutely.
- 1026
- 00:51:38,105 --> 00:51:39,404
- - Here we go.
- - Let me see it.
- 1027
- 00:51:39,406 --> 00:51:41,373
- - Smile, Kay.
- - Shall I hold it?
- 1028
- 00:51:41,375 --> 00:51:43,041
- You just bought
- a share of The Post!
- 1029
- 00:51:43,043 --> 00:51:45,576
- I know. I'm so happy.
- 1030
- 00:51:45,578 --> 00:51:50,882
- 1.35 million shares
- at $24.50 a share.
- 1031
- 00:51:53,853 --> 00:51:56,288
- I believe this will not only
- make The Post solvent...
- 1032
- 00:51:56,290 --> 00:51:58,556
- but stronger
- than it ever has been.
- 1033
- 00:51:58,558 --> 00:51:59,690
- - To The Post!
- - The Post!
- 1034
- 00:51:59,692 --> 00:52:01,460
- He said to call
- from a secure phone.
- 1035
- 00:52:01,462 --> 00:52:02,763
- Mmm-hmm.
- 1036
- 00:52:09,703 --> 00:52:11,302
- I hear
- Kennedy said Phil Graham
- 1037
- 00:52:11,304 --> 00:52:12,737
- was the smartest man
- he ever met.
- 1038
- 00:52:12,739 --> 00:52:15,540
- Yeah, for Kay's father to hand
- her husband the company...
- 1039
- 00:52:15,542 --> 00:52:17,442
- says something about the guy.
- 1040
- 00:52:17,444 --> 00:52:20,746
- I thought it said something
- about the time.
- 1041
- 00:52:20,748 --> 00:52:22,246
- Turn it up.
- 1042
- 00:52:22,248 --> 00:52:23,882
- Good evening.
- The New York Times late today
- 1043
- 00:52:23,884 --> 00:52:26,050
- was barred,
- at least until Saturday...
- 1044
- 00:52:26,052 --> 00:52:28,786
- from publishing any more
- classified documents...
- 1045
- 00:52:28,788 --> 00:52:32,590
- dealing with the cause and
- conduct of the Vietnam War.
- 1046
- 00:52:32,592 --> 00:52:34,525
- The Times, true to its word...
- 1047
- 00:52:34,527 --> 00:52:36,061
- said it would abide
- by the decision
- 1048
- 00:52:36,063 --> 00:52:38,029
- of Federal Judge
- Murray Gurfein...
- 1049
- 00:52:38,031 --> 00:52:40,297
- but will resist
- a permanent injunction
- 1050
- 00:52:40,299 --> 00:52:41,666
- at a hearing Friday.
- 1051
- 00:52:41,668 --> 00:52:43,601
- The Nixon administration
- have charged that
- 1052
- 00:52:43,603 --> 00:52:45,670
- the final two parts of
- The Times' series...
- 1053
- 00:52:45,672 --> 00:52:47,405
- would result in
- irreparable injury
- 1054
- 00:52:47,407 --> 00:52:49,040
- to the national defense.
- 1055
- 00:52:49,042 --> 00:52:50,808
- Hell, why bother
- fighting the communists?
- 1056
- 00:52:50,810 --> 00:52:52,511
- Think Jefferson just
- rolled over in his grave.
- 1057
- 00:52:52,513 --> 00:52:55,547
- Have the courts ever stopped a
- paper from publishing before?
- 1058
- 00:52:55,549 --> 00:52:59,117
- Not in the history
- of the republic.
- 1059
- 00:52:59,119 --> 00:53:01,485
- Good thing
- we're not part of this mess.
- 1060
- 00:53:01,487 --> 00:53:04,723
- I'd give my left one
- to be in this mess.
- 1061
- 00:53:04,725 --> 00:53:07,125
- There's our
- front page lede tomorrow.
- 1062
- 00:53:07,127 --> 00:53:08,663
- Chal, that's yours.
- 1063
- 00:53:09,228 --> 00:53:11,128
- All right.
- 1064
- 00:53:11,130 --> 00:53:14,100
- Party's over.
- Let's get back to our jobs.
- 1065
- 00:53:29,215 --> 00:53:32,183
- - Hello?
- - Hi, it's Ben.
- 1066
- 00:53:32,185 --> 00:53:33,951
- - Yes.
- - Dan?
- 1067
- 00:53:33,953 --> 00:53:35,119
- No.
- 1068
- 00:53:35,121 --> 00:53:38,991
- Oh, I'm trying to get a hold
- of a fella I used to know...
- 1069
- 00:53:38,993 --> 00:53:41,458
- 617-597-4580.
- 1070
- 00:53:41,460 --> 00:53:42,763
- Okay.
- 1071
- 00:53:45,565 --> 00:53:47,334
- Hold on.
- 1072
- 00:53:48,601 --> 00:53:50,302
- Was it 4580?
- 1073
- 00:53:50,304 --> 00:53:52,137
- Call from another phone.
- 1074
- 00:53:52,139 --> 00:53:56,243
- 617-597-4580.
- 1075
- 00:54:05,987 --> 00:54:10,291
- 617-597-4580.
- 1076
- 00:54:18,665 --> 00:54:20,065
- Hello?
- 1077
- 00:54:20,067 --> 00:54:23,134
- - Yeah, I'm looking for...
- - Yeah. Hey, Ben, it's Dan.
- 1078
- 00:54:23,136 --> 00:54:26,637
- Dan, it's good
- to hear your voice.
- 1079
- 00:54:26,639 --> 00:54:28,340
- Yeah, it's been a while.
- 1080
- 00:54:28,342 --> 00:54:29,710
- Yeah.
- 1081
- 00:54:47,860 --> 00:54:50,063
- - Who is it?
- - It's Ben.
- 1082
- 00:54:59,505 --> 00:55:00,741
- Ben.
- 1083
- 00:55:01,074 --> 00:55:02,375
- Dan.
- 1084
- 00:55:07,813 --> 00:55:10,549
- The study had 47 volumes.
- 1085
- 00:55:10,551 --> 00:55:12,284
- I slipped out
- a couple at a time.
- 1086
- 00:55:12,286 --> 00:55:13,821
- Took me months to copy it all.
- 1087
- 00:55:17,590 --> 00:55:18,824
- What the hell?
- 1088
- 00:55:18,826 --> 00:55:21,793
- Well, we were
- all former government guys.
- 1089
- 00:55:21,795 --> 00:55:23,695
- Top clearance, all of that.
- 1090
- 00:55:23,697 --> 00:55:25,730
- McNamara wanted
- academics to have
- 1091
- 00:55:25,732 --> 00:55:27,565
- the chance to examine
- what had happened.
- 1092
- 00:55:27,567 --> 00:55:28,666
- He would say to us,
- 1093
- 00:55:28,668 --> 00:55:30,367
- "Let the chips fall
- where they may."
- 1094
- 00:55:30,369 --> 00:55:31,570
- Brave man.
- 1095
- 00:55:31,572 --> 00:55:34,338
- Well, I think guilt was a
- bigger motivator than courage.
- 1096
- 00:55:34,340 --> 00:55:36,241
- McNamara didn't lie
- as well as the rest...
- 1097
- 00:55:36,243 --> 00:55:39,344
- but I don't think he saw what
- was coming, what we'd find.
- 1098
- 00:55:39,346 --> 00:55:41,579
- But it didn't take him long
- to figure out...
- 1099
- 00:55:41,581 --> 00:55:42,681
- well, for us all
- to figure out
- 1100
- 00:55:42,683 --> 00:55:44,516
- if the public ever saw
- these papers...
- 1101
- 00:55:44,518 --> 00:55:46,150
- they would turn
- against the war.
- 1102
- 00:55:46,152 --> 00:55:49,154
- Covert ops, guaranteed debt,
- rigged elections?
- 1103
- 00:55:49,156 --> 00:55:53,090
- It's all in there.
- Ike, Kennedy, Johnson.
- 1104
- 00:55:53,092 --> 00:55:54,793
- They violated
- the Geneva Convention.
- 1105
- 00:55:54,795 --> 00:55:57,529
- They lied to Congress
- and they lied to the public.
- 1106
- 00:55:57,531 --> 00:56:01,699
- They knew we couldn't win
- and still sent boys to die.
- 1107
- 00:56:01,701 --> 00:56:03,436
- What about Nixon?
- 1108
- 00:56:04,705 --> 00:56:06,503
- He's just carrying on
- like all the others.
- 1109
- 00:56:06,505 --> 00:56:09,777
- Too afraid to be the one who
- loses the war on his watch.
- 1110
- 00:56:11,177 --> 00:56:14,045
- Someone said this
- at some point...
- 1111
- 00:56:14,047 --> 00:56:16,984
- about why we stayed
- when we knew we were losing.
- 1112
- 00:56:17,951 --> 00:56:20,485
- 10% was to help
- the South Vietnamese.
- 1113
- 00:56:20,487 --> 00:56:22,356
- 20% was to hold back
- the commies.
- 1114
- 00:56:23,324 --> 00:56:25,556
- 70% was to avoid
- 1115
- 00:56:25,558 --> 00:56:28,326
- the humiliation
- of an American defeat.
- 1116
- 00:56:28,328 --> 00:56:32,530
- 70% of those boys...
- 1117
- 00:56:32,532 --> 00:56:34,835
- just to avoid
- being humiliated?
- 1118
- 00:56:35,435 --> 00:56:37,071
- That stuck with me.
- 1119
- 00:56:45,978 --> 00:56:47,911
- They're gonna come after you,
- you know.
- 1120
- 00:56:47,913 --> 00:56:50,215
- And I gotta be honest...
- 1121
- 00:56:50,217 --> 00:56:53,119
- the bread crumbs
- weren't too hard to follow.
- 1122
- 00:56:54,621 --> 00:56:55,856
- I know.
- 1123
- 00:56:57,958 --> 00:57:00,324
- They're gonna
- lock you up, Dan.
- 1124
- 00:57:00,326 --> 00:57:03,464
- Wouldn't you go to prison
- to stop this war?
- 1125
- 00:57:05,331 --> 00:57:07,534
- Theoretically, sure.
- 1126
- 00:57:10,770 --> 00:57:14,107
- You are gonna
- publish these documents?
- 1127
- 00:57:16,442 --> 00:57:17,844
- Yeah.
- 1128
- 00:57:18,645 --> 00:57:21,382
- Even with the injunction?
- 1129
- 00:57:23,016 --> 00:57:24,185
- Yes.
- 1130
- 00:57:28,087 --> 00:57:31,324
- Well, then it's not
- so theoretical then, is it?
- 1131
- 00:57:41,935 --> 00:57:45,072
- I'm gonna go do some
- work in the studio.
- 1132
- 00:57:53,246 --> 00:57:56,183
- My day was great,
- thanks for asking.
- 1133
- 00:58:12,531 --> 00:58:15,368
- That picture makes me sad.
- 1134
- 00:58:16,569 --> 00:58:18,237
- Me too.
- 1135
- 00:58:23,310 --> 00:58:25,009
- - Bradlee.
- - I'm in Boston.
- 1136
- 00:58:25,011 --> 00:58:27,244
- I'm gonna need two seats.
- 1137
- 00:58:27,246 --> 00:58:28,179
- Why?
- 1138
- 00:58:28,181 --> 00:58:30,348
- I'm gonna need to
- buy two seats
- 1139
- 00:58:30,350 --> 00:58:31,882
- on the first flight
- out tomorrow...
- 1140
- 00:58:31,884 --> 00:58:33,486
- probably first class.
- 1141
- 00:58:34,587 --> 00:58:36,389
- No shit, you have them?
- 1142
- 00:58:38,824 --> 00:58:41,291
- Well then just get
- your ass back here...
- 1143
- 00:58:41,293 --> 00:58:42,860
- and come
- straight to the house.
- 1144
- 00:58:42,862 --> 00:58:44,362
- Get Chal and Meg
- and the others.
- 1145
- 00:58:44,364 --> 00:58:45,630
- I don't want
- the whole newsroom
- 1146
- 00:58:45,632 --> 00:58:46,831
- knowing about this yet.
- 1147
- 00:58:46,833 --> 00:58:48,132
- I gotta go.
- 1148
- 00:58:48,134 --> 00:58:50,601
- Didn't you just invite
- a bunch of people over?
- 1149
- 00:58:50,603 --> 00:58:51,802
- Yeah.
- 1150
- 00:58:51,804 --> 00:58:54,038
- Yeah, they'll show up
- sometime tomorrow.
- 1151
- 00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:55,172
- When sometime tomorrow?
- 1152
- 00:58:55,174 --> 00:58:56,907
- Is this a breakfast thing
- or a lunch thing?
- 1153
- 00:58:56,909 --> 00:58:59,043
- - Don't know.
- - Do you need me to get things?
- 1154
- 00:58:59,045 --> 00:59:00,779
- - Nah, we'll figure it all out.
- - Okay.
- 1155
- 00:59:00,781 --> 00:59:02,813
- - Well, where are you going?
- - Out.
- 1156
- 00:59:02,815 --> 00:59:04,482
- - You going to the newsroom?
- - No.
- 1157
- 00:59:04,484 --> 00:59:05,983
- Love you, bear.
- 1158
- 00:59:07,186 --> 00:59:09,320
- I got a cake.
- I hope it's okay?
- 1159
- 00:59:09,322 --> 00:59:12,259
- Oh, sure, as long as nobody
- counts the candles.
- 1160
- 00:59:14,094 --> 00:59:16,761
- Uh, sorry to barge in again.
- 1161
- 00:59:16,763 --> 00:59:18,996
- Maybe I should give you a key.
- 1162
- 00:59:18,998 --> 00:59:21,766
- Ah, not here
- to crash your party.
- 1163
- 00:59:21,768 --> 00:59:22,900
- What's up?
- 1164
- 00:59:22,902 --> 00:59:25,003
- Well, I could use a minute.
- 1165
- 00:59:32,110 --> 00:59:34,145
- So, can I ask you a
- hypothetical question?
- 1166
- 00:59:34,147 --> 00:59:36,413
- Oh, dear, I don't like
- hypothetical questions.
- 1167
- 00:59:36,415 --> 00:59:37,882
- Well, I don't think
- you're gonna
- 1168
- 00:59:37,884 --> 00:59:39,419
- like the real one either.
- 1169
- 00:59:42,556 --> 00:59:43,991
- Do you have the papers?
- 1170
- 00:59:45,625 --> 00:59:46,994
- Not yet.
- 1171
- 00:59:50,429 --> 00:59:54,065
- Oh, gosh,
- because you know...
- 1172
- 00:59:54,067 --> 00:59:56,967
- the position
- that would put me in.
- 1173
- 00:59:56,969 --> 00:59:58,436
- You know, we have language
- 1174
- 00:59:58,438 --> 01:00:00,103
- in the prospectus
- that we've...
- 1175
- 01:00:00,105 --> 01:00:02,574
- Yeah, I know that the
- bankers can change their mind.
- 1176
- 01:00:02,576 --> 01:00:04,775
- And I know what is at stake.
- 1177
- 01:00:04,777 --> 01:00:06,076
- You know...
- 1178
- 01:00:06,078 --> 01:00:08,679
- the only couple I knew
- that both Kennedy
- 1179
- 01:00:08,681 --> 01:00:10,282
- and LBJ wanted
- to socialize with...
- 1180
- 01:00:10,284 --> 01:00:14,521
- was you and your husband and
- you owned the damn paper.
- 1181
- 01:00:16,190 --> 01:00:18,088
- Of course that's the way
- things worked.
- 1182
- 01:00:18,090 --> 01:00:20,358
- Politicians and the press,
- they trusted each other...
- 1183
- 01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,059
- so they could go to
- the same dinner party
- 1184
- 01:00:22,061 --> 01:00:23,561
- and drink cocktails
- and tell jokes...
- 1185
- 01:00:23,563 --> 01:00:25,596
- while there was a war
- waging in Vietnam.
- 1186
- 01:00:25,598 --> 01:00:27,297
- Ben, I don't know
- what we're talking about.
- 1187
- 01:00:27,299 --> 01:00:29,300
- I'm not protecting Lyndon.
- 1188
- 01:00:29,302 --> 01:00:30,668
- No, you got his former
- Secretary of Defense,
- 1189
- 01:00:30,670 --> 01:00:31,802
- Robert McNamara...
- 1190
- 01:00:31,804 --> 01:00:33,971
- the man
- who commissioned this study.
- 1191
- 01:00:33,973 --> 01:00:35,373
- He's one of about
- a dozen party guests...
- 1192
- 01:00:35,375 --> 01:00:37,174
- - out on your patio.
- - I'm not protecting him.
- 1193
- 01:00:37,176 --> 01:00:38,241
- I'm not protecting
- any of them.
- 1194
- 01:00:38,243 --> 01:00:39,543
- I'm protecting the paper.
- 1195
- 01:00:39,545 --> 01:00:43,246
- Yeah? Well, I wasn't a stooge
- for Jack Kennedy.
- 1196
- 01:00:43,248 --> 01:00:44,882
- The night he was assassinated
- 1197
- 01:00:44,884 --> 01:00:47,219
- Tony and I were down
- at the Naval Hospital...
- 1198
- 01:00:47,221 --> 01:00:50,954
- so we would be there to meet
- Jackie when she landed.
- 1199
- 01:00:50,956 --> 01:00:52,023
- She was bringing Jack's body
- 1200
- 01:00:52,025 --> 01:00:53,824
- back on the plane
- from Dallas...
- 1201
- 01:00:53,826 --> 01:00:56,194
- and she walked into the room.
- 1202
- 01:00:56,196 --> 01:00:58,128
- She was still
- wearing that pink suit
- 1203
- 01:00:58,130 --> 01:01:00,665
- with Jack's blood all over it.
- 1204
- 01:01:00,667 --> 01:01:03,867
- She fell into Tony's arms
- and they held each other...
- 1205
- 01:01:03,869 --> 01:01:06,072
- for quite a long time.
- 1206
- 01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,373
- And then Jackie looked at me
- and said...
- 1207
- 01:01:10,375 --> 01:01:13,043
- "None of this,
- none of what you see,
- 1208
- 01:01:13,045 --> 01:01:14,311
- "none of what I say...
- 1209
- 01:01:14,313 --> 01:01:18,882
- "is ever going to be
- in your newspaper, Ben."
- 1210
- 01:01:18,884 --> 01:01:21,853
- And that just about
- broke my heart.
- 1211
- 01:01:21,855 --> 01:01:24,020
- I never...
- 1212
- 01:01:24,022 --> 01:01:25,790
- I never thought of Jack
- as a source,
- 1213
- 01:01:25,792 --> 01:01:27,824
- I thought of him as a friend.
- 1214
- 01:01:27,826 --> 01:01:30,194
- And that was my mistake.
- 1215
- 01:01:30,196 --> 01:01:33,665
- And it was something that
- Jack knew all along.
- 1216
- 01:01:33,667 --> 01:01:36,636
- We can't be both.
- We have to choose.
- 1217
- 01:01:37,002 --> 01:01:38,603
- And...
- 1218
- 01:01:38,605 --> 01:01:40,270
- And that's the point.
- 1219
- 01:01:40,272 --> 01:01:42,306
- The days of us all
- smoking cigars together
- 1220
- 01:01:42,308 --> 01:01:45,043
- down on Pennsylvania Avenue
- are over.
- 1221
- 01:01:45,045 --> 01:01:49,249
- Your friend McNamara's
- study proves that.
- 1222
- 01:01:50,049 --> 01:01:52,219
- The way they lied.
- 1223
- 01:01:53,587 --> 01:01:55,753
- The way they lied.
- 1224
- 01:01:55,755 --> 01:01:57,858
- Those days have to be over.
- 1225
- 01:01:59,491 --> 01:02:02,592
- We have to be the check
- on their power.
- 1226
- 01:02:02,594 --> 01:02:04,862
- If we don't
- hold them accountable,
- 1227
- 01:02:04,864 --> 01:02:07,301
- I mean, my God, who will?
- 1228
- 01:02:08,634 --> 01:02:10,402
- Well, I've never
- smoked a cigar...
- 1229
- 01:02:10,404 --> 01:02:13,103
- and I have no problem
- holding Lyndon or Jack...
- 1230
- 01:02:13,105 --> 01:02:15,473
- or Bob or any of them
- accountable.
- 1231
- 01:02:15,475 --> 01:02:17,775
- But we can't
- hold them accountable
- 1232
- 01:02:17,777 --> 01:02:19,679
- if we don't have a newspaper.
- 1233
- 01:02:21,447 --> 01:02:24,014
- When I get my hands
- on that study...
- 1234
- 01:02:24,016 --> 01:02:26,652
- what are you going to do,
- Mrs. Graham?
- 1235
- 01:02:30,022 --> 01:02:32,056
- Oh, uh...
- 1236
- 01:02:32,058 --> 01:02:33,625
- Happy birthday, by the way.
- 1237
- 01:02:36,163 --> 01:02:38,529
- Oh, that's not what I heard.
- 1238
- 01:02:38,531 --> 01:02:39,730
- Am I right?
- 1239
- 01:02:45,371 --> 01:02:46,871
- - Hi. Good morning.
- - Club soda.
- 1240
- 01:02:46,873 --> 01:02:48,542
- - Enjoy your flight.
- - Yes, thank you.
- 1241
- 01:02:49,375 --> 01:02:51,476
- Sir, I'm gonna need
- to put your seat
- 1242
- 01:02:51,478 --> 01:02:53,610
- in the full upright position
- before takeoff.
- 1243
- 01:02:53,612 --> 01:02:54,647
- Yeah.
- 1244
- 01:02:55,248 --> 01:02:57,415
- Must be precious cargo.
- 1245
- 01:02:57,417 --> 01:03:00,585
- Yeah. It's just
- government secrets.
- 1246
- 01:03:00,587 --> 01:03:04,324
- Please fasten
- your seatbelt. Thank you.
- 1247
- 01:03:17,337 --> 01:03:20,404
- - You know why we're here?
- - Beats me.
- 1248
- 01:03:20,406 --> 01:03:22,172
- - Hi, Marina.
- - Hi.
- 1249
- 01:03:22,174 --> 01:03:24,409
- - Do you want lemonade?
- - Little early for me.
- 1250
- 01:03:24,411 --> 01:03:26,076
- Loosen up, I'm buying.
- 1251
- 01:03:26,078 --> 01:03:28,378
- What kinda lemonade
- do you have there?
- 1252
- 01:03:28,380 --> 01:03:31,248
- Uh... It's the one
- with the lemons in it.
- 1253
- 01:03:31,250 --> 01:03:32,451
- Okay.
- 1254
- 01:03:33,719 --> 01:03:35,254
- There you go.
- 1255
- 01:03:37,322 --> 01:03:39,525
- Phil, help me out.
- 1256
- 01:03:41,226 --> 01:03:43,362
- Grab my briefcase.
- 1257
- 01:03:45,130 --> 01:03:46,630
- - Is that...?
- - Yep.
- 1258
- 01:03:59,379 --> 01:04:00,911
- It's not the full report
- 1259
- 01:04:00,913 --> 01:04:03,350
- but it's over
- 4,000 pages of it.
- 1260
- 01:04:06,219 --> 01:04:08,353
- - Are these in order?
- - I don't think so.
- 1261
- 01:04:08,355 --> 01:04:09,654
- There are no page numbers.
- 1262
- 01:04:09,656 --> 01:04:11,554
- Yeah, that's where the
- top secret stamps were.
- 1263
- 01:04:11,556 --> 01:04:13,056
- My source had to cut 'em off.
- 1264
- 01:04:13,058 --> 01:04:14,491
- I was supposed to
- retire on Friday.
- 1265
- 01:04:14,493 --> 01:04:16,027
- Ben, how we supposed
- to comb through
- 1266
- 01:04:16,029 --> 01:04:17,161
- 4,000 pages of material?
- 1267
- 01:04:17,163 --> 01:04:18,329
- They're not even
- loosely organized?
- 1268
- 01:04:18,331 --> 01:04:19,596
- The Times had three months.
- 1269
- 01:04:19,598 --> 01:04:20,797
- There's no way
- we can possibly get this done.
- 1270
- 01:04:20,799 --> 01:04:22,565
- He's right. We've got
- less than eight hours.
- 1271
- 01:04:22,567 --> 01:04:24,201
- We could shoot for city.
- Then we'd have ten.
- 1272
- 01:04:24,203 --> 01:04:25,670
- Hey, hey, hey.
- For the last six years
- 1273
- 01:04:25,672 --> 01:04:27,170
- we've been playin' catch-up...
- 1274
- 01:04:27,172 --> 01:04:28,273
- and now thanks to
- 1275
- 01:04:28,275 --> 01:04:29,674
- the President
- of the United States...
- 1276
- 01:04:29,676 --> 01:04:31,308
- who, by the way,
- is taking a shit
- 1277
- 01:04:31,310 --> 01:04:32,976
- all over
- the First Amendment...
- 1278
- 01:04:32,978 --> 01:04:34,645
- we have the goods.
- 1279
- 01:04:34,647 --> 01:04:36,746
- And we don't have
- any competition.
- 1280
- 01:04:36,748 --> 01:04:38,782
- There's dozens
- of stories in here.
- 1281
- 01:04:38,784 --> 01:04:41,753
- The Times has barely
- scratched the surface.
- 1282
- 01:04:41,755 --> 01:04:44,925
- We have ten hours
- 'til the deadline...
- 1283
- 01:04:45,324 --> 01:04:47,360
- so we dig in.
- 1284
- 01:04:50,764 --> 01:04:53,030
- I think this memo's
- from McNamara.
- 1285
- 01:04:53,032 --> 01:04:54,598
- "It is my belief
- that there should be
- 1286
- 01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:56,433
- "a three- or four-week pause
- in bombing."
- 1287
- 01:04:56,435 --> 01:04:58,570
- Wait, wait, wait. I saw
- the other half of that memo.
- 1288
- 01:04:58,572 --> 01:05:01,938
- Anyone have the back half of
- a cable from Dulles in '54?
- 1289
- 01:05:01,940 --> 01:05:03,842
- I thought I saw one from July.
- 1290
- 01:05:03,844 --> 01:05:06,143
- Yeah, here it is. "The reasons
- for this belief...
- 1291
- 01:05:06,145 --> 01:05:08,045
- "are that we must
- lay a foundation
- 1292
- 01:05:08,047 --> 01:05:09,480
- "in the mind
- of the American public."
- 1293
- 01:05:09,482 --> 01:05:11,451
- That's it! That's it!
- 1294
- 01:05:12,784 --> 01:05:14,418
- So Johnson wasn't trying
- to make peace.
- 1295
- 01:05:14,420 --> 01:05:15,719
- He was just
- manipulating the public?
- 1296
- 01:05:15,721 --> 01:05:18,723
- Eyes out for a suspension
- in bombing from when?
- 1297
- 01:05:18,725 --> 01:05:20,324
- '65 to '68.
- 1298
- 01:05:20,326 --> 01:05:21,659
- What about a memo
- 1299
- 01:05:21,661 --> 01:05:25,029
- from Eisenhower's special
- committee on Indochina?
- 1300
- 01:05:25,031 --> 01:05:26,130
- Uh, Meg read
- a part of one to me.
- 1301
- 01:05:26,132 --> 01:05:27,197
- Meg?
- 1302
- 01:05:27,199 --> 01:05:28,431
- Anybody see a mention
- 1303
- 01:05:28,433 --> 01:05:29,666
- of the RAND Viet Cong study?
- 1304
- 01:05:29,668 --> 01:05:32,002
- Yeah, I think this might be
- from your RAND study.
- 1305
- 01:05:32,004 --> 01:05:33,570
- "VC are deeply committed.
- 1306
- 01:05:33,572 --> 01:05:35,605
- "South Vietnam
- is a lost cause."
- 1307
- 01:05:35,607 --> 01:05:37,608
- - Whoa! There you go.
- - Bingo.
- 1308
- 01:05:37,610 --> 01:05:39,110
- - All right.
- - Meg, I need the...
- 1309
- 01:05:39,112 --> 01:05:40,244
- Yeah,
- I put it on the shelf.
- 1310
- 01:05:40,246 --> 01:05:42,913
- Couple of piles.
- We're getting somewhere.
- 1311
- 01:05:42,915 --> 01:05:45,715
- All right, it's 1:30.
- Four o'clock story conference.
- 1312
- 01:05:45,717 --> 01:05:47,851
- Can I interest anyone
- in some lemonade?
- 1313
- 01:05:47,853 --> 01:05:49,554
- - Yes!
- - Does it have vodka in it?
- 1314
- 01:05:49,556 --> 01:05:51,054
- I don't put vodka
- in my lemonade.
- 1315
- 01:05:51,056 --> 01:05:52,155
- Go easy on the kid.
- 1316
- 01:05:52,157 --> 01:05:53,491
- Why not?
- 1317
- 01:05:53,493 --> 01:05:54,824
- - How much, sweetheart?
- - A quarter.
- 1318
- 01:05:54,826 --> 01:05:55,893
- It's 50 cents.
- 1319
- 01:05:55,895 --> 01:05:57,997
- - Inflation.
- - Price is going up.
- 1320
- 01:06:01,366 --> 01:06:02,967
- Mr. Bradlee.
- 1321
- 01:06:02,969 --> 01:06:04,268
- Roger Clark.
- 1322
- 01:06:04,270 --> 01:06:06,369
- Oh, you're Roger Clark?
- 1323
- 01:06:06,371 --> 01:06:08,271
- It's nice to
- meet you in person.
- 1324
- 01:06:08,273 --> 01:06:11,875
- You are our
- senior legal counsel.
- 1325
- 01:06:11,877 --> 01:06:13,844
- Yes, we've spoken
- on the phone.
- 1326
- 01:06:13,846 --> 01:06:15,545
- My voice should
- sound familiar.
- 1327
- 01:06:15,547 --> 01:06:18,382
- When did you
- finish law school?
- 1328
- 01:06:18,384 --> 01:06:20,784
- - I graduated...
- - Rhetorical question.
- 1329
- 01:06:20,786 --> 01:06:22,920
- You know,
- the guy we had before you
- 1330
- 01:06:22,922 --> 01:06:24,889
- is now Secretary of State.
- 1331
- 01:06:24,891 --> 01:06:27,690
- I did not know that.
- 1332
- 01:06:27,692 --> 01:06:29,627
- A little joke,
- perhaps not the time.
- 1333
- 01:06:29,629 --> 01:06:31,228
- What exactly
- can I help you with...
- 1334
- 01:06:31,230 --> 01:06:34,063
- So, why would the CIA Director
- send a memo on war policy?
- 1335
- 01:06:34,065 --> 01:06:35,933
- Because they weren't
- calling it a war yet.
- 1336
- 01:06:35,935 --> 01:06:37,969
- Okay, I've got
- turkey with mustard.
- 1337
- 01:06:37,971 --> 01:06:39,237
- Roast beef with horseradish.
- 1338
- 01:06:39,239 --> 01:06:41,771
- - Howard, come look at this.
- - Chal, you've gotta see this.
- 1339
- 01:06:41,773 --> 01:06:44,074
- It's a full analysis
- of McNamara's
- 1340
- 01:06:44,076 --> 01:06:45,143
- changing view of the war.
- 1341
- 01:06:45,145 --> 01:06:46,543
- Does it say anything
- about why he does?
- 1342
- 01:06:46,545 --> 01:06:48,279
- So we knew they were
- gonna assassinate Diem.
- 1343
- 01:06:48,281 --> 01:06:49,779
- Yeah, and we did
- nothing to stop it.
- 1344
- 01:06:49,781 --> 01:06:51,616
- I think I got something
- on McNamara on the fireplace.
- 1345
- 01:06:51,618 --> 01:06:53,384
- The other fireplace.
- 1346
- 01:06:54,754 --> 01:06:56,520
- Murrey, where's
- the back half of this one?
- 1347
- 01:06:56,522 --> 01:06:58,090
- What's the thing
- you just gave me?
- 1348
- 01:06:59,426 --> 01:07:01,092
- Tell me these aren't
- the classified documents
- 1349
- 01:07:01,094 --> 01:07:02,525
- from the McNamara study.
- 1350
- 01:07:02,527 --> 01:07:04,329
- 4,000 pages of 'em.
- 1351
- 01:07:04,331 --> 01:07:07,197
- - Hungry?
- - I need to use a phone.
- 1352
- 01:07:07,199 --> 01:07:09,299
- There's one in the other room.
- 1353
- 01:07:09,301 --> 01:07:10,534
- - Two.
- - Is that it?
- 1354
- 01:07:10,536 --> 01:07:11,969
- This is it. This is it.
- 1355
- 01:07:11,971 --> 01:07:13,436
- Hmm?
- 1356
- 01:07:13,438 --> 01:07:15,271
- This is
- the other half of it.
- 1357
- 01:07:26,485 --> 01:07:28,654
- Oh, my God.
- 1358
- 01:07:56,281 --> 01:07:59,583
- Hi. Thanks for
- letting me drop by.
- 1359
- 01:07:59,585 --> 01:08:01,918
- - Marg still napping?
- - Yeah.
- 1360
- 01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:03,587
- Do you mind
- if we talk in the sunroom?
- 1361
- 01:08:03,589 --> 01:08:05,023
- Just so I can hear her
- if she wakes.
- 1362
- 01:08:05,025 --> 01:08:06,958
- No, of course not.
- I can't stay long.
- 1363
- 01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:08,659
- I've got a big event
- at the house later.
- 1364
- 01:08:08,661 --> 01:08:11,630
- I guess you've read
- everything now.
- 1365
- 01:08:12,364 --> 01:08:14,331
- Yes, I have. I have, yes.
- 1366
- 01:08:14,333 --> 01:08:16,502
- And I went over it
- again this morning.
- 1367
- 01:08:16,902 --> 01:08:18,505
- All of it.
- 1368
- 01:08:19,471 --> 01:08:21,073
- And I just...
- 1369
- 01:08:22,641 --> 01:08:26,979
- Forgive me, Bob, I know you're
- dealing with so much...
- 1370
- 01:08:28,648 --> 01:08:32,682
- but it's just so hard to try
- to make sense of why.
- 1371
- 01:08:32,684 --> 01:08:35,319
- Of how you could have done
- all these things.
- 1372
- 01:08:35,321 --> 01:08:37,254
- How you could
- just lie to us all.
- 1373
- 01:08:37,256 --> 01:08:41,858
- Well, it's easy for the papers
- to characterize us as liars.
- 1374
- 01:08:41,860 --> 01:08:44,094
- We were just trying to
- push back...
- 1375
- 01:08:44,096 --> 01:08:46,330
- No, but you let it
- go on and on and on.
- 1376
- 01:08:46,332 --> 01:08:49,232
- My son is home now and safe,
- thank God.
- 1377
- 01:08:49,234 --> 01:08:50,968
- But you watched him go.
- 1378
- 01:08:50,970 --> 01:08:52,335
- You knew
- we couldn't win over there...
- 1379
- 01:08:52,337 --> 01:08:55,708
- for years and years and years,
- and yet you let me...
- 1380
- 01:08:56,943 --> 01:09:00,076
- you let so many of our friends
- send our boys off.
- 1381
- 01:09:00,078 --> 01:09:02,946
- Kay, we were doing
- the best we could.
- 1382
- 01:09:02,948 --> 01:09:06,249
- It was domino theory,
- containment...
- 1383
- 01:09:06,251 --> 01:09:07,785
- and eventually we felt
- 1384
- 01:09:07,787 --> 01:09:09,719
- that military pressure
- was the only thing...
- 1385
- 01:09:09,721 --> 01:09:11,688
- that was gonna drive
- Ho Chi Minh to the table.
- 1386
- 01:09:11,690 --> 01:09:13,456
- Our decision-making
- process was...
- 1387
- 01:09:13,458 --> 01:09:15,095
- Flawed.
- 1388
- 01:09:19,832 --> 01:09:23,136
- It was flawed.
- That's what your study said.
- 1389
- 01:09:24,938 --> 01:09:26,172
- Yes.
- 1390
- 01:09:28,241 --> 01:09:33,279
- I do believe that you were
- trying to do your best...
- 1391
- 01:09:34,247 --> 01:09:36,781
- and I know
- how difficult it can be
- 1392
- 01:09:36,783 --> 01:09:39,049
- to make choices that will...
- 1393
- 01:09:39,051 --> 01:09:41,684
- That's kind of you.
- 1394
- 01:09:41,686 --> 01:09:45,324
- Well, what comes next
- might not be so kind.
- 1395
- 01:09:47,393 --> 01:09:49,459
- You have the papers.
- 1396
- 01:09:51,330 --> 01:09:52,795
- Let's just say...
- 1397
- 01:09:52,797 --> 01:09:56,335
- I may have
- a big decision to make.
- 1398
- 01:10:01,541 --> 01:10:03,206
- They will
- argue it's a violation
- 1399
- 01:10:03,208 --> 01:10:04,307
- of the Espionage Act.
- 1400
- 01:10:04,309 --> 01:10:05,541
- That is a felony, Ben.
- 1401
- 01:10:05,543 --> 01:10:07,477
- That's only
- if the documents we print
- 1402
- 01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:08,812
- could damage
- the United States.
- 1403
- 01:10:08,814 --> 01:10:10,647
- There's a federal judge
- in New York
- 1404
- 01:10:10,649 --> 01:10:11,815
- who seems to think
- that they could.
- 1405
- 01:10:11,817 --> 01:10:13,116
- Well, I've got
- six seasoned journalists
- 1406
- 01:10:13,118 --> 01:10:14,418
- in the next room...
- 1407
- 01:10:14,420 --> 01:10:16,053
- who've been reporting on this
- war for the last ten years...
- 1408
- 01:10:16,055 --> 01:10:18,188
- and I'll lay odds that they
- have a better idea...
- 1409
- 01:10:18,190 --> 01:10:19,690
- of what could damage
- the United States
- 1410
- 01:10:19,692 --> 01:10:20,825
- than some judge...
- 1411
- 01:10:20,827 --> 01:10:22,092
- who is just now wading
- 1412
- 01:10:22,094 --> 01:10:23,826
- into this territory
- for the first time.
- 1413
- 01:10:23,828 --> 01:10:26,263
- "Wading." Is that a metaphor
- for Vietnam?
- 1414
- 01:10:26,265 --> 01:10:29,232
- Okay. Ben, look, we know
- your reporters are talented.
- 1415
- 01:10:29,234 --> 01:10:31,535
- But The New York Times
- spent three months
- 1416
- 01:10:31,537 --> 01:10:33,570
- going over these documents.
- 1417
- 01:10:33,572 --> 01:10:35,405
- You've got, what,
- seven hours now
- 1418
- 01:10:35,407 --> 01:10:36,740
- until the paper goes to press?
- 1419
- 01:10:36,742 --> 01:10:39,142
- Can you honestly tell me
- that that is enough time...
- 1420
- 01:10:39,144 --> 01:10:43,214
- to make sure
- not a single military plan,
- 1421
- 01:10:43,216 --> 01:10:44,347
- not a single U.S. soldier...
- 1422
- 01:10:44,349 --> 01:10:47,250
- not a single American life
- will be put in harm's way?
- 1423
- 01:10:47,252 --> 01:10:48,852
- That this will do no damage
- 1424
- 01:10:48,854 --> 01:10:51,088
- to the United States
- if you publish?
- 1425
- 01:10:51,090 --> 01:10:52,125
- Yes.
- 1426
- 01:10:54,327 --> 01:10:55,860
- You're sure about that?
- 1427
- 01:10:55,862 --> 01:10:56,826
- No!
- 1428
- 01:10:56,828 --> 01:11:00,063
- That's why
- I've called you guys.
- 1429
- 01:11:00,065 --> 01:11:02,599
- Look, Kay, I know
- why The Times ran the story
- 1430
- 01:11:02,601 --> 01:11:04,201
- but you need to understand...
- 1431
- 01:11:04,203 --> 01:11:05,669
- the study was for posterity.
- 1432
- 01:11:05,671 --> 01:11:07,839
- It was written for academics
- in the future...
- 1433
- 01:11:07,841 --> 01:11:09,639
- and right now we're still
- in the middle of the war.
- 1434
- 01:11:09,641 --> 01:11:11,208
- The papers can't be objective.
- 1435
- 01:11:11,210 --> 01:11:13,643
- And I suppose the public
- has a right to know...
- 1436
- 01:11:13,645 --> 01:11:15,913
- but I would prefer
- that the study
- 1437
- 01:11:15,915 --> 01:11:17,347
- not be made
- widely available...
- 1438
- 01:11:17,349 --> 01:11:20,418
- until it can be read with some
- perspective. You understand.
- 1439
- 01:11:20,420 --> 01:11:22,052
- Mmm.
- 1440
- 01:11:24,890 --> 01:11:27,325
- We've been through a lot,
- haven't we?
- 1441
- 01:11:27,327 --> 01:11:30,761
- You and Marg
- were there for me...
- 1442
- 01:11:30,763 --> 01:11:32,963
- at the lowest point
- of my life.
- 1443
- 01:11:32,965 --> 01:11:36,566
- You helped me, you selected
- my entire board...
- 1444
- 01:11:36,568 --> 01:11:39,236
- you're my most
- trusted advisor...
- 1445
- 01:11:39,238 --> 01:11:40,839
- my dear friend.
- 1446
- 01:11:41,774 --> 01:11:45,241
- But my feelings about that
- and about you...
- 1447
- 01:11:45,243 --> 01:11:48,946
- can't be part of this decision
- to publish or not.
- 1448
- 01:11:48,948 --> 01:11:53,517
- I'm here
- asking your advice, Bob...
- 1449
- 01:11:53,519 --> 01:11:56,253
- not your permission.
- 1450
- 01:11:56,255 --> 01:11:59,222
- Well, then as one of your
- most trusted advisors...
- 1451
- 01:11:59,224 --> 01:12:01,526
- and someone who knows how much
- you care about this company...
- 1452
- 01:12:01,528 --> 01:12:02,659
- I'm worried, Kay.
- 1453
- 01:12:02,661 --> 01:12:04,195
- I worked in Washington
- for ten years,
- 1454
- 01:12:04,197 --> 01:12:05,663
- I've seen
- these people up close.
- 1455
- 01:12:05,665 --> 01:12:07,964
- Bobby and Lyndon,
- they were tough customers,
- 1456
- 01:12:07,966 --> 01:12:10,066
- but Nixon is different.
- 1457
- 01:12:10,068 --> 01:12:12,303
- He's got some real bad
- people around him.
- 1458
- 01:12:12,305 --> 01:12:14,539
- And if you publish he'll
- get the very worst of them.
- 1459
- 01:12:14,541 --> 01:12:15,772
- The Colsons
- and the Ehrlichmans
- 1460
- 01:12:15,774 --> 01:12:16,906
- and he'll crush you.
- 1461
- 01:12:16,908 --> 01:12:18,275
- I know he's just awful,
- but I...
- 1462
- 01:12:18,277 --> 01:12:21,145
- Nixon's a son of a bitch!
- He hates you.
- 1463
- 01:12:21,147 --> 01:12:22,146
- He hates Ben.
- 1464
- 01:12:22,148 --> 01:12:23,312
- He's wanted to ruin
- the paper for years...
- 1465
- 01:12:23,314 --> 01:12:26,116
- and you will not get
- a second chance, Kay.
- 1466
- 01:12:26,118 --> 01:12:28,017
- The Richard Nixon I know
- will muster
- 1467
- 01:12:28,019 --> 01:12:29,687
- the full power
- of the presidency...
- 1468
- 01:12:29,689 --> 01:12:31,688
- and if there's a way
- to destroy your paper,
- 1469
- 01:12:31,690 --> 01:12:33,992
- by God, he'll find it.
- 1470
- 01:12:36,461 --> 01:12:38,829
- Publish information
- that harms national security.
- 1471
- 01:12:38,831 --> 01:12:40,062
- I told you,
- there is nothing in there.
- 1472
- 01:12:40,064 --> 01:12:41,965
- If there is, the paper
- will be prosecuted.
- 1473
- 01:12:41,967 --> 01:12:43,599
- Isn't that why you're here?
- 1474
- 01:12:43,601 --> 01:12:45,035
- Yes, Ben, but if we lose...
- 1475
- 01:12:45,037 --> 01:12:46,771
- With what we pay you,
- you really shouldn't lose.
- 1476
- 01:12:46,773 --> 01:12:47,838
- Ben, you need
- to listen to them.
- 1477
- 01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:48,972
- Hey, Fritz.
- Good to see you.
- 1478
- 01:12:48,974 --> 01:12:50,039
- This is about
- the future of the company
- 1479
- 01:12:50,041 --> 01:12:51,342
- and ensuring there is one.
- 1480
- 01:12:51,344 --> 01:12:53,576
- That's a little melodramatic,
- don't you think?
- 1481
- 01:12:53,578 --> 01:12:54,977
- Melodramatic?
- You're talking about
- 1482
- 01:12:54,979 --> 01:12:58,081
- exposing years
- of government secrets.
- 1483
- 01:12:58,083 --> 01:13:00,717
- I can't imagine they're
- gonna take that lightly.
- 1484
- 01:13:00,719 --> 01:13:02,252
- You could jeopardize
- the public offering.
- 1485
- 01:13:02,254 --> 01:13:04,388
- You could jeopardize
- our television stations.
- 1486
- 01:13:04,390 --> 01:13:06,522
- You know a felon can't
- hold a broadcast license.
- 1487
- 01:13:06,524 --> 01:13:08,558
- You think I give two shits
- about the television stations?
- 1488
- 01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:09,625
- You should.
- They make a hell of
- 1489
- 01:13:09,627 --> 01:13:10,895
- a lot more money
- than you do...
- 1490
- 01:13:10,897 --> 01:13:13,196
- and without that revenue
- we'll be forced to sell.
- 1491
- 01:13:13,198 --> 01:13:15,264
- If the government wins
- and we're convicted...
- 1492
- 01:13:15,266 --> 01:13:18,134
- The Washington Post as we
- know it will cease to exist.
- 1493
- 01:13:18,136 --> 01:13:19,837
- If we live in a world
- where the government
- 1494
- 01:13:19,839 --> 01:13:21,605
- can tell us what we can
- and cannot print...
- 1495
- 01:13:21,607 --> 01:13:22,807
- then The Washington Post
- as we know it
- 1496
- 01:13:22,809 --> 01:13:25,110
- has already ceased to exist.
- 1497
- 01:13:26,311 --> 01:13:28,014
- What if we wait?
- 1498
- 01:13:28,881 --> 01:13:30,981
- What if we hold off
- on printing today
- 1499
- 01:13:30,983 --> 01:13:33,383
- and instead we call
- the Attorney General...
- 1500
- 01:13:33,385 --> 01:13:36,152
- and we tell him that
- we intend to print on Sunday?
- 1501
- 01:13:36,154 --> 01:13:37,855
- That way we give
- them and us time
- 1502
- 01:13:37,857 --> 01:13:40,090
- to figure out
- the legality of all of it...
- 1503
- 01:13:40,092 --> 01:13:42,593
- while the court in New York
- decides The Times' case.
- 1504
- 01:13:42,595 --> 01:13:45,062
- You're suggesting we alert
- the Attorney General...
- 1505
- 01:13:45,064 --> 01:13:47,330
- to the fact that we
- have these documents...
- 1506
- 01:13:47,332 --> 01:13:50,236
- that we're going to print
- in a few days?
- 1507
- 01:13:53,805 --> 01:13:57,007
- Well, yes, that is the idea.
- 1508
- 01:13:57,009 --> 01:13:58,608
- Yeah, well...
- 1509
- 01:13:58,610 --> 01:14:00,076
- outside of
- landing the Hindenburg
- 1510
- 01:14:00,078 --> 01:14:01,445
- in a lightning storm...
- 1511
- 01:14:01,447 --> 01:14:03,746
- that's about the shittiest
- idea I've ever heard.
- 1512
- 01:14:03,748 --> 01:14:05,117
- Oh, boy.
- 1513
- 01:14:12,724 --> 01:14:14,724
- Oh, here's
- the man of the hour.
- 1514
- 01:14:14,726 --> 01:14:16,459
- Kay.
- 1515
- 01:14:16,461 --> 01:14:17,695
- For you.
- 1516
- 01:14:17,697 --> 01:14:18,795
- I'm found.
- 1517
- 01:14:18,797 --> 01:14:20,097
- Thank you, Kay.
- 1518
- 01:14:20,099 --> 01:14:21,263
- You didn't have to
- go through all this trouble.
- 1519
- 01:14:21,265 --> 01:14:22,598
- No, we had to turn them
- away at the door.
- 1520
- 01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:23,733
- Didn't we, dear?
- 1521
- 01:14:23,735 --> 01:14:24,867
- - Thanks.
- - Oh.
- 1522
- 01:14:24,869 --> 01:14:27,036
- - Gene.
- - Mrs. Graham.
- 1523
- 01:14:27,038 --> 01:14:29,272
- So, everything okay?
- 1524
- 01:14:29,274 --> 01:14:32,541
- Uh, it's gotten pretty hot
- over at Ben's house.
- 1525
- 01:14:32,543 --> 01:14:34,945
- Oh, things are
- not going well?
- 1526
- 01:14:34,947 --> 01:14:38,816
- No. Ben and Mr. Beebe
- are at real loggerheads.
- 1527
- 01:14:38,818 --> 01:14:40,883
- Fritz and Ben
- on opposite sides?
- 1528
- 01:14:40,885 --> 01:14:41,985
- I made a commitment
- to publish these papers.
- 1529
- 01:14:41,987 --> 01:14:43,286
- Excuse me. Pardon me.
- 1530
- 01:14:43,288 --> 01:14:45,022
- The whole staff will revolt,
- if we don't publish.
- 1531
- 01:14:45,024 --> 01:14:47,557
- Meg, I hardly think
- people are gonna resign.
- 1532
- 01:14:47,559 --> 01:14:48,691
- Enjoying the fight?
- 1533
- 01:14:48,693 --> 01:14:50,093
- Yeah, who's winning?
- 1534
- 01:14:50,095 --> 01:14:52,195
- - Nixon.
- - I didn't see him come in.
- 1535
- 01:14:52,197 --> 01:14:55,134
- Really? He's got his hand
- so far up Fritz's ass.
- 1536
- 01:14:56,501 --> 01:14:57,903
- Where is Fritz?
- 1537
- 01:15:00,005 --> 01:15:02,672
- That is not at all
- what I'm saying. No.
- 1538
- 01:15:02,674 --> 01:15:04,540
- Not in so many words,
- but you're a bunch of lawyers.
- 1539
- 01:15:04,542 --> 01:15:05,409
- Will you cut through the shit!
- 1540
- 01:15:05,411 --> 01:15:06,776
- Is the profanity necessary?
- 1541
- 01:15:06,778 --> 01:15:07,878
- If we're not gonna publish,
- 1542
- 01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:09,847
- why are we busting
- our rear ends, Ben?
- 1543
- 01:15:09,849 --> 01:15:11,615
- Just keep writing.
- 1544
- 01:15:12,917 --> 01:15:15,285
- Can you stop
- playing Chopsticks?
- 1545
- 01:15:15,287 --> 01:15:17,657
- We're not gonna get it wrong!
- 1546
- 01:15:20,193 --> 01:15:22,061
- What's up there, Fritz?
- 1547
- 01:15:22,595 --> 01:15:24,928
- Calling Kay.
- 1548
- 01:15:24,930 --> 01:15:27,998
- I'm sorry, Ben.
- I know you want this.
- 1549
- 01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,601
- There will be another one.
- 1550
- 01:15:30,603 --> 01:15:32,968
- Like hell there will be.
- 1551
- 01:15:32,970 --> 01:15:34,804
- Given the
- sensitive circumstances...
- 1552
- 01:15:34,806 --> 01:15:36,406
- Sensitive circumstances?
- Really?
- 1553
- 01:15:36,408 --> 01:15:38,075
- How would you describe it?
- 1554
- 01:15:38,077 --> 01:15:41,044
- Uh, well,
- we're trying to make a story.
- 1555
- 01:15:41,046 --> 01:15:43,580
- Hello. Hello, I'm
- making a telephone call.
- 1556
- 01:15:43,582 --> 01:15:45,382
- Yeah, well, it's my house.
- 1557
- 01:15:45,384 --> 01:15:48,084
- - So I'll be on the call.
- - All right, Ben.
- 1558
- 01:15:48,086 --> 01:15:52,722
- I just want to thank you all
- for coming out this evening...
- 1559
- 01:15:52,724 --> 01:15:55,659
- to help me launch
- Harry Gladstein...
- 1560
- 01:15:55,661 --> 01:15:57,828
- and his new sailboat...
- 1561
- 01:15:57,830 --> 01:16:00,265
- into the Chesapeake Bay.
- 1562
- 01:16:01,867 --> 01:16:05,436
- And into his
- very well earned retirement.
- 1563
- 01:16:05,438 --> 01:16:07,538
- Let me just tell you
- a little bit about
- 1564
- 01:16:07,540 --> 01:16:09,940
- why I'm so wild about Harry.
- 1565
- 01:16:09,942 --> 01:16:12,942
- Mrs. Graham.
- It's Mr. Beebe on the phone.
- 1566
- 01:16:12,944 --> 01:16:16,013
- In 1949, wasn't it?
- 1567
- 01:16:16,015 --> 01:16:19,682
- Uh, Phil Graham first brought
- Harry to the company.
- 1568
- 01:16:19,684 --> 01:16:22,652
- - I'm afraid they need you now.
- - And I remember, he told me...
- 1569
- 01:16:22,654 --> 01:16:23,954
- Mrs. Graham.
- 1570
- 01:16:23,956 --> 01:16:25,558
- They need you now.
- 1571
- 01:16:27,893 --> 01:16:31,195
- Oh, dear. I'm so sorry.
- 1572
- 01:16:31,197 --> 01:16:33,129
- - Forgive me, Harry.
- - Yeah.
- 1573
- 01:16:33,131 --> 01:16:35,097
- I think I'll have to suspend.
- 1574
- 01:16:35,099 --> 01:16:37,433
- Well, you're paying
- the overtime.
- 1575
- 01:16:37,435 --> 01:16:39,803
- I'll be right back.
- 1576
- 01:16:39,805 --> 01:16:41,541
- I'm so sorry, Mrs. Graham.
- 1577
- 01:16:41,907 --> 01:16:43,374
- Yeah.
- 1578
- 01:16:43,376 --> 01:16:44,642
- We should wait.
- 1579
- 01:16:44,644 --> 01:16:48,381
- Yeah, I understand, Ben,
- but if you wait a day...
- 1580
- 01:16:49,480 --> 01:16:52,215
- - Fritz on the phone for me?
- - We should be on this call.
- 1581
- 01:16:52,217 --> 01:16:54,550
- Well, there's an extension
- in the living room.
- 1582
- 01:16:54,552 --> 01:16:57,622
- Liz, show them where, please?
- Thank you.
- 1583
- 01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:09,031
- Hello, Fritz?
- 1584
- 01:17:09,033 --> 01:17:11,434
- Hello, Kay. Would you like me
- to catch you up?
- 1585
- 01:17:11,436 --> 01:17:12,770
- I say we can,
- he says we can't.
- 1586
- 01:17:12,772 --> 01:17:13,904
- There, you're caught up.
- 1587
- 01:17:13,906 --> 01:17:15,539
- - Ben...
- - Hello, it's Art.
- 1588
- 01:17:15,541 --> 01:17:18,275
- Well, Ben,
- there are concerns here
- 1589
- 01:17:18,277 --> 01:17:20,309
- that are frankly
- above your pay grade.
- 1590
- 01:17:20,311 --> 01:17:22,045
- Well, there's
- a few above yours, Art,
- 1591
- 01:17:22,047 --> 01:17:23,414
- like fucking freedom
- of the press.
- 1592
- 01:17:23,416 --> 01:17:25,316
- Let's just be civil if we can.
- 1593
- 01:17:25,318 --> 01:17:27,349
- Do you think
- Nixon is going to be civil?
- 1594
- 01:17:27,351 --> 01:17:30,087
- He is trying to censor the
- goddamn New York Times.
- 1595
- 01:17:30,089 --> 01:17:31,821
- Yes, The Times, not The Post.
- 1596
- 01:17:31,823 --> 01:17:33,456
- It's the same damn thing.
- 1597
- 01:17:33,458 --> 01:17:37,427
- This is an historic fight.
- If they lose, we lose.
- 1598
- 01:17:37,429 --> 01:17:39,295
- Hello? Is someone
- on the phone?
- 1599
- 01:17:39,297 --> 01:17:40,731
- This is Phil.
- 1600
- 01:17:40,733 --> 01:17:42,365
- Is that Phil Geyelin?
- 1601
- 01:17:42,367 --> 01:17:44,602
- Uh, yes, Mrs. Graham.
- 1602
- 01:17:44,604 --> 01:17:47,170
- Good. I'd like you to weigh in
- if you would...
- 1603
- 01:17:47,172 --> 01:17:48,370
- because I wanna know
- 1604
- 01:17:48,372 --> 01:17:50,507
- what the staff
- is feeling about this.
- 1605
- 01:17:50,509 --> 01:17:53,276
- Uh, well,
- frankly Mrs. Graham...
- 1606
- 01:17:53,278 --> 01:17:55,279
- Ben Bagdikian and Chal Roberts
- 1607
- 01:17:55,281 --> 01:17:58,013
- have, uh, both
- threatened to resign...
- 1608
- 01:17:58,015 --> 01:18:00,183
- if we don't publish, that is.
- 1609
- 01:18:00,185 --> 01:18:01,651
- Come on, Kay,
- what do you expect?
- 1610
- 01:18:01,653 --> 01:18:02,518
- They got nothing to lose.
- 1611
- 01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:04,120
- Due respect,
- we all have everything
- 1612
- 01:18:04,122 --> 01:18:05,522
- to lose if we don't publish.
- 1613
- 01:18:05,524 --> 01:18:08,392
- What will happen to the
- reputation of this paper?
- 1614
- 01:18:08,394 --> 01:18:10,593
- Everyone will find out
- we had the study.
- 1615
- 01:18:10,595 --> 01:18:12,629
- Hell, I bet half the town
- knows already.
- 1616
- 01:18:12,631 --> 01:18:14,798
- What will it look like
- if we sit on our asses?
- 1617
- 01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:16,400
- It'll look like
- we were prudent.
- 1618
- 01:18:16,402 --> 01:18:18,134
- It will look like
- we were afraid!
- 1619
- 01:18:18,136 --> 01:18:21,271
- We will lose! The country
- will lose! Nixon wins!
- 1620
- 01:18:21,273 --> 01:18:23,139
- Nixon wins this one,
- and the next one...
- 1621
- 01:18:23,141 --> 01:18:25,107
- and all the ones after that,
- because we were scared.
- 1622
- 01:18:25,109 --> 01:18:26,375
- Because the only way to assert
- 1623
- 01:18:26,377 --> 01:18:28,648
- the right to publish
- is to publish.
- 1624
- 01:18:33,452 --> 01:18:34,651
- Fritz.
- 1625
- 01:18:34,653 --> 01:18:36,855
- Is Fritz there?
- 1626
- 01:18:38,689 --> 01:18:41,090
- Fritz, are you on?
- 1627
- 01:18:41,092 --> 01:18:43,095
- I'm here, Kay.
- 1628
- 01:18:45,864 --> 01:18:48,100
- What do you think?
- 1629
- 01:18:49,367 --> 01:18:52,538
- What do you think I should do?
- 1630
- 01:18:54,540 --> 01:18:56,507
- I think...
- 1631
- 01:18:56,509 --> 01:18:59,442
- there are arguments
- on both sides.
- 1632
- 01:18:59,444 --> 01:19:00,446
- Yeah.
- 1633
- 01:19:02,948 --> 01:19:05,151
- But I guess
- I wouldn't publish.
- 1634
- 01:19:28,140 --> 01:19:30,540
- Let's go.
- Let's do it.
- 1635
- 01:19:30,542 --> 01:19:34,779
- Let's go. Let's go, let's go.
- Let's publish.
- 1636
- 01:19:38,884 --> 01:19:40,616
- - What?
- - Phil?
- 1637
- 01:19:40,618 --> 01:19:42,287
- What'd she say?
- 1638
- 01:19:42,955 --> 01:19:44,524
- We go.
- 1639
- 01:19:46,224 --> 01:19:48,291
- She says, we publish.
- 1640
- 01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:50,427
- - Hot damn.
- - My God.
- 1641
- 01:19:50,429 --> 01:19:52,228
- - Holy shit.
- - Let's get this out.
- 1642
- 01:19:52,230 --> 01:19:54,197
- Holy shit.
- 1643
- 01:19:54,199 --> 01:19:55,465
- - I need that, Meg.
- - Sorry.
- 1644
- 01:19:55,467 --> 01:19:56,733
- Whoa, whoa, whoa!
- Hold your horses.
- 1645
- 01:19:56,735 --> 01:19:57,968
- - I need the notes!
- - Sorry.
- 1646
- 01:19:57,970 --> 01:19:59,335
- - How many pages is it?
- - 13.
- 1647
- 01:19:59,337 --> 01:20:00,971
- We got two hours to get it
- to the composing room.
- 1648
- 01:20:00,973 --> 01:20:03,139
- I got it! Almost!
- Wait one moment. I'm typing.
- 1649
- 01:20:03,141 --> 01:20:04,609
- All right.
- 1650
- 01:20:05,577 --> 01:20:06,910
- - Wait, wait, wait.
- - Who's taking it?
- 1651
- 01:20:06,912 --> 01:20:08,078
- I got it.
- 1652
- 01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:09,245
- Call National desk.
- 1653
- 01:20:09,247 --> 01:20:10,880
- Tell them Bagdikian
- is coming with the story.
- 1654
- 01:20:10,882 --> 01:20:12,214
- Done!
- 1655
- 01:20:12,216 --> 01:20:13,983
- All right.
- Get it in the paper.
- 1656
- 01:20:13,985 --> 01:20:15,486
- Editorial meeting.
- 1657
- 01:20:15,488 --> 01:20:18,053
- - Ben?
- - Yeah? Thanks.
- 1658
- 01:20:18,055 --> 01:20:20,324
- Good job, Murrey.
- 1659
- 01:20:26,832 --> 01:20:29,098
- - That it?
- - That's it.
- 1660
- 01:20:39,244 --> 01:20:41,680
- You... You got half an hour.
- 1661
- 01:20:52,625 --> 01:20:55,124
- I'm not sure how much thought
- 1662
- 01:20:55,126 --> 01:20:56,825
- you've put
- into this decision...
- 1663
- 01:20:56,827 --> 01:20:57,761
- but we still have time.
- 1664
- 01:20:57,763 --> 01:20:59,596
- The print deadline
- is not 'til midnight.
- 1665
- 01:20:59,598 --> 01:21:01,731
- I know when the
- print deadline is.
- 1666
- 01:21:01,733 --> 01:21:03,700
- Look, I'm still learning
- how to do this,
- 1667
- 01:21:03,702 --> 01:21:05,302
- but everything
- I know about business...
- 1668
- 01:21:05,304 --> 01:21:07,803
- tells me you're making
- a serious mistake here.
- 1669
- 01:21:07,805 --> 01:21:09,672
- One that will cost you
- and your paper dearly,
- 1670
- 01:21:09,674 --> 01:21:11,674
- and hurt every person
- gathered here.
- 1671
- 01:21:11,676 --> 01:21:14,444
- Not to mention, the hundreds
- of others who work for you.
- 1672
- 01:21:14,446 --> 01:21:16,446
- I'm just trying to put
- my thoughts together.
- 1673
- 01:21:16,448 --> 01:21:19,014
- Kay, all I want is
- what is best
- 1674
- 01:21:19,016 --> 01:21:20,950
- for you and your business.
- 1675
- 01:21:20,952 --> 01:21:23,852
- But I just got off the phone
- with a couple of bankers...
- 1676
- 01:21:23,854 --> 01:21:26,990
- and they think it's possible,
- likely even...
- 1677
- 01:21:26,992 --> 01:21:29,625
- that a number of their
- institutional investors...
- 1678
- 01:21:29,627 --> 01:21:31,727
- will pull out
- if you go ahead and publish.
- 1679
- 01:21:31,729 --> 01:21:35,267
- And if they pull out, Kay...
- 1680
- 01:21:36,201 --> 01:21:38,604
- You got a couple of hours.
- 1681
- 01:21:39,037 --> 01:21:40,270
- For your sake,
- 1682
- 01:21:40,272 --> 01:21:42,438
- and for the sake of every one
- of your employees...
- 1683
- 01:21:42,440 --> 01:21:44,376
- I hope you will reconsider.
- 1684
- 01:21:51,783 --> 01:21:53,518
- Give me the canister.
- 1685
- 01:21:59,091 --> 01:22:00,257
- Get it downstairs...
- 1686
- 01:22:00,259 --> 01:22:02,125
- and I want the page editor
- standing over Lino
- 1687
- 01:22:02,127 --> 01:22:03,660
- 'til they got it
- ready to print.
- 1688
- 01:22:03,662 --> 01:22:04,664
- Okay.
- 1689
- 01:22:08,233 --> 01:22:09,968
- Mr. Bagdikian.
- 1690
- 01:22:15,241 --> 01:22:17,706
- I need to know your source.
- 1691
- 01:22:17,708 --> 01:22:20,442
- I thought I was clear earlier.
- 1692
- 01:22:20,444 --> 01:22:22,779
- Well, we weren't
- going to press earlier.
- 1693
- 01:22:22,781 --> 01:22:25,548
- Yeah, well,
- my answer's the same.
- 1694
- 01:22:25,550 --> 01:22:27,584
- "This action has been
- commenced to enjoin
- 1695
- 01:22:27,586 --> 01:22:29,419
- "The New York Times
- and their agents...
- 1696
- 01:22:29,421 --> 01:22:31,221
- "from further
- disseminating or disclosing
- 1697
- 01:22:31,223 --> 01:22:32,621
- "certain alleged
- top secret documents."
- 1698
- 01:22:32,623 --> 01:22:34,691
- Are you trying
- to piss me off?
- 1699
- 01:22:34,693 --> 01:22:36,526
- No. Not me.
- Judge Gurfein.
- 1700
- 01:22:36,528 --> 01:22:38,460
- If you look at the text
- of his restraining order...
- 1701
- 01:22:38,462 --> 01:22:40,563
- I read his restraining order.
- 1702
- 01:22:40,565 --> 01:22:42,566
- So then you know that if
- The Times was your source...
- 1703
- 01:22:42,568 --> 01:22:44,233
- we would be in
- direct violation...
- 1704
- 01:22:44,235 --> 01:22:47,170
- I did not get the study
- from The Times.
- 1705
- 01:22:47,172 --> 01:22:48,373
- You're sure?
- 1706
- 01:22:49,207 --> 01:22:50,776
- We done?
- 1707
- 01:22:54,278 --> 01:22:56,748
- Did you get it
- from their source?
- 1708
- 01:23:03,689 --> 01:23:05,124
- Excuse me?
- 1709
- 01:23:08,025 --> 01:23:10,125
- Did you get the study
- 1710
- 01:23:10,127 --> 01:23:12,797
- from the same source
- as The Times?
- 1711
- 01:23:15,134 --> 01:23:18,601
- We do not reveal
- our sources.
- 1712
- 01:23:18,603 --> 01:23:20,637
- "This action has been
- commenced to enjoin
- 1713
- 01:23:20,639 --> 01:23:22,504
- "The New York Times
- and its agents..."
- 1714
- 01:23:22,506 --> 01:23:24,109
- I get it!
- I get it!
- 1715
- 01:23:27,645 --> 01:23:30,013
- If you got the study
- from the same source
- 1716
- 01:23:30,015 --> 01:23:31,748
- that would
- amount to collusion.
- 1717
- 01:23:31,750 --> 01:23:34,854
- Yeah, we could
- all be executed at dawn.
- 1718
- 01:23:35,854 --> 01:23:38,989
- And we could be held
- in contempt of court...
- 1719
- 01:23:38,991 --> 01:23:42,728
- which means Mr. Bradlee and
- Mrs. Graham could go to jail.
- 1720
- 01:23:46,431 --> 01:23:48,466
- Mr. Bagdikian...
- 1721
- 01:23:49,467 --> 01:23:52,936
- how likely is it
- that your source...
- 1722
- 01:23:52,938 --> 01:23:55,841
- and The Times source
- are the same person?
- 1723
- 01:23:57,442 --> 01:23:59,444
- It's likely.
- 1724
- 01:24:00,946 --> 01:24:02,614
- How likely?
- 1725
- 01:24:04,882 --> 01:24:06,682
- Very.
- 1726
- 01:24:06,684 --> 01:24:08,754
- - It's very likely.
- - Yes.
- 1727
- 01:24:19,898 --> 01:24:22,065
- What is all this?
- 1728
- 01:24:22,067 --> 01:24:24,867
- Lemonade earnings.
- 1729
- 01:24:24,869 --> 01:24:28,103
- Marina wanted me to
- put it away for safekeeping.
- 1730
- 01:24:28,105 --> 01:24:29,442
- Oh, wow.
- 1731
- 01:24:34,144 --> 01:24:35,980
- We're publishing.
- 1732
- 01:24:39,684 --> 01:24:40,819
- Wow.
- 1733
- 01:24:43,388 --> 01:24:45,824
- I didn't think Kay'd do it.
- 1734
- 01:24:48,460 --> 01:24:50,927
- That's brave.
- 1735
- 01:24:50,929 --> 01:24:53,897
- Well, she's not the only one
- who's brave.
- 1736
- 01:24:53,899 --> 01:24:55,164
- Oh.
- 1737
- 01:24:55,166 --> 01:24:57,299
- What have you got to lose?
- 1738
- 01:24:57,301 --> 01:24:59,035
- Uh, my job.
- 1739
- 01:24:59,037 --> 01:25:00,437
- My reputation.
- 1740
- 01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:02,141
- Oh, Ben, please.
- 1741
- 01:25:03,308 --> 01:25:05,441
- We both know
- this will do nothing
- 1742
- 01:25:05,443 --> 01:25:08,445
- but burnish your reputation.
- 1743
- 01:25:08,447 --> 01:25:10,313
- And as for your job...
- 1744
- 01:25:10,315 --> 01:25:12,585
- you can always
- find another one.
- 1745
- 01:25:13,618 --> 01:25:16,852
- Now, if you're trying to
- make me feel better...
- 1746
- 01:25:16,854 --> 01:25:19,791
- there's nicer ways
- of doing it.
- 1747
- 01:25:21,225 --> 01:25:23,228
- You're very brave.
- 1748
- 01:25:25,197 --> 01:25:27,830
- But Kay...
- 1749
- 01:25:27,832 --> 01:25:32,369
- Kay is in a position
- she never thought she'd be in.
- 1750
- 01:25:32,371 --> 01:25:34,337
- A position
- I'm sure plenty of people
- 1751
- 01:25:34,339 --> 01:25:37,106
- don't think she should have.
- 1752
- 01:25:37,108 --> 01:25:39,409
- And when you're told
- time and time again
- 1753
- 01:25:39,411 --> 01:25:41,477
- that you're not good enough.
- 1754
- 01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:44,947
- That your opinion
- doesn't matter as much.
- 1755
- 01:25:44,949 --> 01:25:48,651
- When they don't
- just look past you.
- 1756
- 01:25:48,653 --> 01:25:52,589
- When, to them,
- you're not even there.
- 1757
- 01:25:52,591 --> 01:25:54,757
- When that's been your
- reality for so long...
- 1758
- 01:25:54,759 --> 01:25:57,796
- it's hard not to let
- yourself think it's true.
- 1759
- 01:25:58,764 --> 01:26:01,998
- So, to make this decision...
- 1760
- 01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:04,733
- to risk her fortune
- and the company
- 1761
- 01:26:04,735 --> 01:26:07,206
- that's been her entire life...
- 1762
- 01:26:08,540 --> 01:26:10,775
- well, I think that's brave.
- 1763
- 01:26:17,149 --> 01:26:18,014
- Bradlee.
- 1764
- 01:26:18,016 --> 01:26:20,685
- Ben, we got a problem.
- 1765
- 01:26:31,229 --> 01:26:33,098
- You remember this?
- 1766
- 01:26:34,966 --> 01:26:37,034
- - The day before the funeral.
- - Yeah.
- 1767
- 01:26:37,036 --> 01:26:38,237
- Wasn't it?
- 1768
- 01:26:39,004 --> 01:26:40,171
- Yeah.
- 1769
- 01:26:41,707 --> 01:26:42,839
- I didn't...
- 1770
- 01:26:42,841 --> 01:26:45,508
- I didn't wanna do it...
- 1771
- 01:26:45,510 --> 01:26:48,011
- but Fritz said
- I should go in...
- 1772
- 01:26:48,013 --> 01:26:50,716
- and say a few words
- to the Board.
- 1773
- 01:26:52,951 --> 01:26:55,951
- So, I tried
- to rehearse something...
- 1774
- 01:26:55,953 --> 01:26:58,321
- but it all
- turned out so awful,
- 1775
- 01:26:58,323 --> 01:26:59,556
- and before I knew it...
- 1776
- 01:26:59,558 --> 01:27:01,223
- the car was there
- ready to take me
- 1777
- 01:27:01,225 --> 01:27:02,795
- and then you came out.
- 1778
- 01:27:03,528 --> 01:27:05,261
- I remember.
- 1779
- 01:27:05,263 --> 01:27:06,529
- You came out in
- 1780
- 01:27:06,531 --> 01:27:08,964
- your little nightgown
- and your robe.
- 1781
- 01:27:08,966 --> 01:27:11,467
- And you hopped
- in the car with me.
- 1782
- 01:27:11,469 --> 01:27:14,070
- Gave me this.
- 1783
- 01:27:14,072 --> 01:27:18,874
- Somehow you managed to
- scribble these notes for me.
- 1784
- 01:27:18,876 --> 01:27:22,145
- So I'd know what to say.
- 1785
- 01:27:22,147 --> 01:27:25,115
- But I don't
- have my glasses up here.
- 1786
- 01:27:25,117 --> 01:27:27,749
- - So, just read it for me.
- - Mummy...
- 1787
- 01:27:27,751 --> 01:27:29,988
- Oh, come on, just...
- Would you read it to me?
- 1788
- 01:27:34,792 --> 01:27:37,526
- "One, thank them.
- 1789
- 01:27:37,528 --> 01:27:40,562
- "Two, there has been a crisis,
- 1790
- 01:27:40,564 --> 01:27:42,499
- "but you know
- they will carry on.
- 1791
- 01:27:42,501 --> 01:27:45,838
- "Three, never expected
- to be in this...
- 1792
- 01:27:47,072 --> 01:27:49,237
- "situation.
- 1793
- 01:27:49,239 --> 01:27:54,578
- "Four, going off to clear mind
- and think about the future.
- 1794
- 01:27:54,580 --> 01:27:57,147
- "Five, no changes
- at this time,
- 1795
- 01:27:57,149 --> 01:27:59,749
- "paper will remain
- in the family.
- 1796
- 01:27:59,751 --> 01:28:03,018
- "And six, and be carried on
- in the tradition...
- 1797
- 01:28:03,020 --> 01:28:05,522
- - "so well set."
- - So well set.
- 1798
- 01:28:06,891 --> 01:28:10,625
- You know, I just wanted
- to hold on to the company...
- 1799
- 01:28:10,627 --> 01:28:13,228
- for you and Don
- and Billy and Steve.
- 1800
- 01:28:13,230 --> 01:28:15,130
- You did. You have.
- 1801
- 01:28:15,132 --> 01:28:16,702
- Well...
- 1802
- 01:28:18,836 --> 01:28:20,973
- You know that quote?
- 1803
- 01:28:22,608 --> 01:28:24,039
- That quote...
- 1804
- 01:28:24,041 --> 01:28:29,512
- "A woman preaching is like a
- dog walking on its hind legs.
- 1805
- 01:28:29,514 --> 01:28:31,112
- "It's not done well...
- 1806
- 01:28:31,114 --> 01:28:35,787
- "and you're surprised to see
- it's done at all."
- 1807
- 01:28:36,587 --> 01:28:37,919
- Samuel Johnson.
- 1808
- 01:28:37,921 --> 01:28:39,589
- - Oh, Mummy.
- - Yeah.
- 1809
- 01:28:39,591 --> 01:28:41,124
- Well, it's a bunch
- of nonsense.
- 1810
- 01:28:41,126 --> 01:28:44,363
- No, but that's the way
- we all thought then...
- 1811
- 01:28:45,129 --> 01:28:46,763
- you know?
- 1812
- 01:28:46,765 --> 01:28:50,402
- I was never
- supposed to be in this job.
- 1813
- 01:28:52,069 --> 01:28:56,472
- When my father chose your dad
- to run the company...
- 1814
- 01:28:56,474 --> 01:28:59,174
- I thought it was the most
- natural thing in the world.
- 1815
- 01:28:59,176 --> 01:29:01,677
- I was so proud,
- because you know...
- 1816
- 01:29:01,679 --> 01:29:05,717
- Phil was so brilliant.
- And he was...
- 1817
- 01:29:09,086 --> 01:29:11,920
- so gifted...
- 1818
- 01:29:11,922 --> 01:29:14,857
- But I thought that was the way
- it was supposed to be.
- 1819
- 01:29:14,859 --> 01:29:17,962
- Everybody thought
- that way then.
- 1820
- 01:29:18,863 --> 01:29:21,467
- And I was raising you kids...
- 1821
- 01:29:23,635 --> 01:29:27,803
- and I was happy in my life.
- 1822
- 01:29:27,805 --> 01:29:30,108
- The way it was.
- 1823
- 01:29:32,344 --> 01:29:36,081
- But then when it
- all fell apart, you know...
- 1824
- 01:29:39,951 --> 01:29:42,852
- When Phil died, it was just...
- 1825
- 01:29:42,854 --> 01:29:46,222
- I was 45 years old
- and I had never held...
- 1826
- 01:29:46,224 --> 01:29:50,028
- I'd never had to
- hold a job in my life.
- 1827
- 01:29:51,996 --> 01:29:55,365
- But I just, I loved the paper,
- you know...
- 1828
- 01:29:55,367 --> 01:29:56,869
- I do.
- 1829
- 01:29:57,635 --> 01:29:59,035
- I do so love the paper.
- 1830
- 01:29:59,037 --> 01:30:01,169
- I don't want it
- to be my fault.
- 1831
- 01:30:01,171 --> 01:30:02,540
- I don't want
- to be the one who...
- 1832
- 01:30:03,809 --> 01:30:08,011
- I don't wanna
- let Phil and my father...
- 1833
- 01:30:08,013 --> 01:30:11,416
- and all of you kids
- and everybody down.
- 1834
- 01:30:12,817 --> 01:30:14,453
- Mrs. Graham?
- 1835
- 01:30:23,127 --> 01:30:25,397
- - You ran here?
- - Yeah.
- 1836
- 01:30:27,098 --> 01:30:29,464
- There's been a bit of a...
- 1837
- 01:30:29,466 --> 01:30:31,068
- complication.
- 1838
- 01:30:32,170 --> 01:30:33,770
- I didn't understand at first,
- 1839
- 01:30:33,772 --> 01:30:35,371
- but now everything
- is in a different light.
- 1840
- 01:30:35,373 --> 01:30:39,342
- Our source might be the same
- as The New York Times.
- 1841
- 01:30:39,344 --> 01:30:40,345
- Okay.
- 1842
- 01:30:41,179 --> 01:30:44,112
- If so, we could be
- held in contempt.
- 1843
- 01:30:44,114 --> 01:30:45,882
- Meaning?
- 1844
- 01:30:45,884 --> 01:30:48,287
- Well, we could
- all go to prison.
- 1845
- 01:30:51,022 --> 01:30:53,091
- Now putting that aside...
- 1846
- 01:30:54,192 --> 01:30:57,229
- Katharine,
- I've come to realize...
- 1847
- 01:30:58,596 --> 01:31:01,567
- just how much
- you have at stake.
- 1848
- 01:31:29,860 --> 01:31:31,460
- - Paul.
- - Glad you're here.
- 1849
- 01:31:31,462 --> 01:31:32,762
- Fritz is sitting
- with Mrs. Graham now.
- 1850
- 01:31:32,764 --> 01:31:33,830
- And Ben is here.
- 1851
- 01:31:33,832 --> 01:31:35,868
- Yes, I figured he would be.
- 1852
- 01:31:59,291 --> 01:32:00,656
- Jesus Christ.
- 1853
- 01:32:00,658 --> 01:32:01,891
- Mr. Bradlee, if you knew
- 1854
- 01:32:01,893 --> 01:32:03,025
- Mr. Bagdikian
- received the study...
- 1855
- 01:32:03,027 --> 01:32:04,326
- from the same source
- as The Times...
- 1856
- 01:32:04,328 --> 01:32:06,195
- I didn't know because
- I'm not in the habit...
- 1857
- 01:32:06,197 --> 01:32:07,830
- of asking my reporters
- who their sources are...
- 1858
- 01:32:07,832 --> 01:32:09,065
- and if you'd spent any time
- 1859
- 01:32:09,067 --> 01:32:10,298
- at a real goddamn newspaper
- you'd know why.
- 1860
- 01:32:10,300 --> 01:32:12,103
- You understand he's trying
- to help you, Ben?
- 1861
- 01:32:12,738 --> 01:32:14,606
- Mrs. Graham, hi.
- 1862
- 01:32:15,306 --> 01:32:16,406
- We can all...
- 1863
- 01:32:16,408 --> 01:32:19,107
- We can all appreciate
- why Ben wants to publish...
- 1864
- 01:32:19,109 --> 01:32:20,910
- and if these papers had
- come from someone else...
- 1865
- 01:32:20,912 --> 01:32:23,248
- we might have been
- able to skirt the issue.
- 1866
- 01:32:24,349 --> 01:32:25,914
- Anything from
- the folks upstairs?
- 1867
- 01:32:25,916 --> 01:32:27,048
- No.
- 1868
- 01:32:27,050 --> 01:32:28,450
- We gotta start the run
- 1869
- 01:32:28,452 --> 01:32:31,422
- or we won't get
- to the carriers on time.
- 1870
- 01:32:34,824 --> 01:32:36,392
- I disagreed with you earlier,
- 1871
- 01:32:36,394 --> 01:32:38,227
- but I thought it brave.
- But this?
- 1872
- 01:32:38,229 --> 01:32:39,829
- If we were
- to publish knowing this,
- 1873
- 01:32:39,831 --> 01:32:41,629
- it would just
- be irresponsible.
- 1874
- 01:32:41,631 --> 01:32:44,365
- Fritz, do you agree?
- 1875
- 01:32:44,367 --> 01:32:46,803
- Well, I don't particularly
- like the idea
- 1876
- 01:32:46,805 --> 01:32:49,539
- of Kay as a convicted felon.
- 1877
- 01:32:49,541 --> 01:32:51,339
- And then there's the
- issue of the prospectus.
- 1878
- 01:32:51,341 --> 01:32:52,775
- Based on
- the conversations I've had
- 1879
- 01:32:52,777 --> 01:32:54,009
- with my friends at Cravath...
- 1880
- 01:32:54,011 --> 01:32:55,445
- I believe
- a criminal indictment
- 1881
- 01:32:55,447 --> 01:32:58,013
- would qualify
- as a catastrophic event.
- 1882
- 01:32:58,015 --> 01:33:01,219
- And given the likelihood
- of indictment now...
- 1883
- 01:33:02,787 --> 01:33:03,919
- Kay, it could...
- 1884
- 01:33:03,921 --> 01:33:06,458
- Yes, I understand.
- 1885
- 01:33:07,893 --> 01:33:11,160
- We have a responsibility
- to the company...
- 1886
- 01:33:11,162 --> 01:33:12,361
- to all the employees
- 1887
- 01:33:12,363 --> 01:33:14,699
- and to the long-term health
- of the paper.
- 1888
- 01:33:15,500 --> 01:33:17,135
- Absolutely, Kay.
- 1889
- 01:33:20,171 --> 01:33:23,208
- Yes. However, um...
- 1890
- 01:33:31,082 --> 01:33:33,482
- The prospectus
- also talks about...
- 1891
- 01:33:33,484 --> 01:33:36,553
- the mission
- of the paper, which is...
- 1892
- 01:33:36,555 --> 01:33:38,187
- "outstanding news collection
- 1893
- 01:33:38,189 --> 01:33:40,190
- "and reporting,"
- isn't that right?
- 1894
- 01:33:40,192 --> 01:33:41,257
- Yes.
- 1895
- 01:33:41,259 --> 01:33:42,157
- And...
- 1896
- 01:33:42,159 --> 01:33:44,759
- And it also says...
- 1897
- 01:33:44,761 --> 01:33:45,962
- that the newspaper will
- 1898
- 01:33:45,964 --> 01:33:48,197
- "be dedicated to the welfare
- of the nation...
- 1899
- 01:33:48,199 --> 01:33:51,066
- "and to the, uh, principles
- of a free press..."
- 1900
- 01:33:51,068 --> 01:33:52,468
- Yes, but...
- 1901
- 01:33:52,470 --> 01:33:57,071
- So, one could argue that the
- bankers were put on notice.
- 1902
- 01:33:57,073 --> 01:33:59,508
- But Kay, these are
- extraordinary circumstances.
- 1903
- 01:33:59,510 --> 01:34:02,512
- Are they? Are they?
- For a newspaper?
- 1904
- 01:34:02,514 --> 01:34:05,147
- One that covers
- the Nixon White House.
- 1905
- 01:34:05,149 --> 01:34:07,983
- Can you guarantee me that
- we could go to print...
- 1906
- 01:34:07,985 --> 01:34:09,817
- without endangering
- any of our soldiers?
- 1907
- 01:34:09,819 --> 01:34:11,254
- You can't be considering...
- 1908
- 01:34:11,256 --> 01:34:13,792
- I'm talking
- to Mr. Bradlee now.
- 1909
- 01:34:17,627 --> 01:34:20,062
- Fritz, you're not gonna
- let her do this.
- 1910
- 01:34:20,064 --> 01:34:21,196
- She can't go to...
- 1911
- 01:34:21,198 --> 01:34:23,031
- No, now, she can, Arthur.
- 1912
- 01:34:23,033 --> 01:34:24,467
- And it's entirely
- her decision.
- 1913
- 01:34:24,469 --> 01:34:27,137
- Kay, you're allowing
- Mr. Bradlee...
- 1914
- 01:34:27,139 --> 01:34:29,004
- to lead you to folly.
- 1915
- 01:34:29,006 --> 01:34:30,638
- The legacy of the company
- is at stake
- 1916
- 01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:33,209
- and if you want
- to protect that legacy...
- 1917
- 01:34:33,211 --> 01:34:35,044
- This company's
- been in my life...
- 1918
- 01:34:35,046 --> 01:34:36,210
- for longer
- than most of the people
- 1919
- 01:34:36,212 --> 01:34:37,612
- working there have been alive.
- 1920
- 01:34:37,614 --> 01:34:40,786
- So, I don't need
- the lecture on legacy.
- 1921
- 01:34:42,453 --> 01:34:46,522
- And this is no longer
- my father's company.
- 1922
- 01:34:46,524 --> 01:34:48,892
- It's no longer
- my husband's company.
- 1923
- 01:34:48,894 --> 01:34:51,026
- It's my company.
- 1924
- 01:34:51,028 --> 01:34:52,928
- And anyone
- who thinks otherwise...
- 1925
- 01:34:52,930 --> 01:34:56,132
- probably doesn't belong
- on my board.
- 1926
- 01:34:56,134 --> 01:34:58,401
- Can you guarantee me
- that we can go to...
- 1927
- 01:34:58,403 --> 01:34:59,701
- 100%!
- 1928
- 01:34:59,703 --> 01:35:02,004
- All right, then.
- 1929
- 01:35:02,006 --> 01:35:04,408
- My decision stands...
- 1930
- 01:35:06,978 --> 01:35:08,814
- and I'm going to bed.
- 1931
- 01:35:24,828 --> 01:35:26,629
- It's Ben Bradlee.
- Run it.
- 1932
- 01:35:26,631 --> 01:35:27,830
- Yes, sir.
- 1933
- 01:35:27,832 --> 01:35:29,501
- Start it up.
- 1934
- 01:36:44,641 --> 01:36:48,244
- Let's go! Let's go!
- 1935
- 01:36:48,246 --> 01:36:50,946
- This is not a party,
- this is a war here!
- 1936
- 01:37:03,359 --> 01:37:05,628
- I've got the
- Assistant Attorney General.
- 1937
- 01:37:05,630 --> 01:37:06,898
- Put him on.
- 1938
- 01:37:08,099 --> 01:37:09,898
- - Good morning.
- - Good morning.
- 1939
- 01:37:09,900 --> 01:37:10,967
- This is William Rehnquist
- 1940
- 01:37:10,969 --> 01:37:13,268
- from the Office
- of Legal Counsel at Justice.
- 1941
- 01:37:13,270 --> 01:37:14,570
- Yes, sir.
- 1942
- 01:37:14,572 --> 01:37:16,405
- Mr. Bradlee,
- I have been advised
- 1943
- 01:37:16,407 --> 01:37:18,039
- by the Secretary of Defense...
- 1944
- 01:37:18,041 --> 01:37:19,407
- that the material published
- 1945
- 01:37:19,409 --> 01:37:21,309
- in The Washington Post
- this morning...
- 1946
- 01:37:21,311 --> 01:37:22,911
- contains information
- relating to
- 1947
- 01:37:22,913 --> 01:37:25,313
- the national defense
- of the United States...
- 1948
- 01:37:25,315 --> 01:37:28,250
- and bears
- a top-secret classification.
- 1949
- 01:37:28,252 --> 01:37:30,919
- As such, the publication
- of this information...
- 1950
- 01:37:30,921 --> 01:37:33,656
- is directly prohibited by
- the Espionage Act...
- 1951
- 01:37:33,658 --> 01:37:38,393
- title 18 of the United States
- code, section 793.
- 1952
- 01:37:38,395 --> 01:37:40,862
- As publication will cause
- irreparable injury...
- 1953
- 01:37:40,864 --> 01:37:43,833
- to the defense interests
- of the United States...
- 1954
- 01:37:43,835 --> 01:37:45,867
- I respectfully request
- that you publish
- 1955
- 01:37:45,869 --> 01:37:48,971
- no further information
- of this character...
- 1956
- 01:37:48,973 --> 01:37:51,740
- and advise me that you
- have made arrangements...
- 1957
- 01:37:51,742 --> 01:37:53,409
- for the return
- of these documents
- 1958
- 01:37:53,411 --> 01:37:55,477
- to the Department of Defense.
- 1959
- 01:37:55,479 --> 01:37:57,580
- Well, thank you for the call,
- Mr. Rehnquist...
- 1960
- 01:37:57,582 --> 01:38:02,384
- but I'm sure you understand
- I must respectfully decline.
- 1961
- 01:38:02,386 --> 01:38:04,956
- I appreciate your time.
- 1962
- 01:38:08,893 --> 01:38:10,125
- What's next?
- 1963
- 01:38:10,127 --> 01:38:12,593
- We're going to court. Today.
- 1964
- 01:38:12,595 --> 01:38:15,798
- If we get a ruling in our
- favor, or The Times does...
- 1965
- 01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:19,371
- we'll be at the Supreme Court
- sometime next week.
- 1966
- 01:38:30,613 --> 01:38:31,681
- No, I wanna make sure
- all the dates
- 1967
- 01:38:31,683 --> 01:38:32,981
- are locked down
- between sixth...
- 1968
- 01:38:32,983 --> 01:38:34,385
- We're focusing on Johnson...
- 1969
- 01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:38,087
- I don't want any more articles
- 1970
- 01:38:38,089 --> 01:38:39,858
- just about shoes
- and about dresses.
- 1971
- 01:38:41,291 --> 01:38:42,724
- Well, that's where
- you're wrong, Al.
- 1972
- 01:38:42,726 --> 01:38:44,696
- I happen to be
- a woman and I know a few.
- 1973
- 01:38:46,596 --> 01:38:47,730
- Your Honor,
- the stories published
- 1974
- 01:38:47,732 --> 01:38:49,031
- in The Times
- and now The Post...
- 1975
- 01:38:49,033 --> 01:38:50,266
- have created a diplomatic
- 1976
- 01:38:50,268 --> 01:38:52,434
- and security disaster
- for the United States.
- 1977
- 01:38:52,436 --> 01:38:55,705
- How exactly have these papers
- created a diplomatic disaster?
- 1978
- 01:38:55,707 --> 01:38:58,173
- Why would other countries
- talk to us in confidence...
- 1979
- 01:38:58,175 --> 01:38:59,709
- if secrets like this
- can be leaked?
- 1980
- 01:38:59,711 --> 01:39:01,142
- So, does this
- make it difficult
- 1981
- 01:39:01,144 --> 01:39:02,544
- for the President to govern?
- 1982
- 01:39:02,546 --> 01:39:05,347
- If the President can't
- keep secrets, he can't govern.
- 1983
- 01:39:05,349 --> 01:39:07,148
- Nothing less
- than the integrity
- 1984
- 01:39:07,150 --> 01:39:09,754
- of the presidency is at stake.
- 1985
- 01:39:10,188 --> 01:39:11,620
- Yes, I know.
- 1986
- 01:39:11,622 --> 01:39:13,688
- I'm sure it has
- rattled investors, Jerry.
- 1987
- 01:39:13,690 --> 01:39:16,191
- That's why I'm calling you.
- 1988
- 01:39:16,193 --> 01:39:18,392
- Yes, I understand
- a number of them
- 1989
- 01:39:18,394 --> 01:39:21,098
- have considered pulling out
- but we feel...
- 1990
- 01:39:22,433 --> 01:39:26,371
- Of course.
- I stand behind the decision.
- 1991
- 01:39:31,576 --> 01:39:33,409
- Well, you know,
- one could argue
- 1992
- 01:39:33,411 --> 01:39:37,780
- it's raising
- the profile of The Post.
- 1993
- 01:39:37,782 --> 01:39:41,383
- Would The Post have published
- military plans for D-Day...
- 1994
- 01:39:41,385 --> 01:39:44,453
- if they'd had them in advance?
- 1995
- 01:39:44,455 --> 01:39:46,821
- Well, I don't think
- there's any comparison
- 1996
- 01:39:46,823 --> 01:39:48,657
- between a pending invasion
- of Europe...
- 1997
- 01:39:48,659 --> 01:39:51,559
- and a historical survey
- of American involvement
- 1998
- 01:39:51,561 --> 01:39:53,131
- in the Vietnam War.
- 1999
- 01:39:54,564 --> 01:39:56,264
- The Supreme Court has decided
- 2000
- 01:39:56,266 --> 01:39:57,965
- to hold a hearing
- tomorrow morning...
- 2001
- 01:39:57,967 --> 01:40:01,236
- to resolve the tangle of
- conflicting decisions...
- 2002
- 01:40:01,238 --> 01:40:02,905
- over what
- of the Pentagon Papers
- 2003
- 01:40:02,907 --> 01:40:04,740
- can be published
- and more broadly...
- 2004
- 01:40:04,742 --> 01:40:06,374
- the issue
- of freedom of the press
- 2005
- 01:40:06,376 --> 01:40:08,477
- versus government security.
- 2006
- 01:40:08,479 --> 01:40:09,911
- But in agreeing
- to hear the cases of
- 2007
- 01:40:09,913 --> 01:40:11,545
- The New York Times
- and The Washington Post...
- 2008
- 01:40:11,547 --> 01:40:14,548
- Supreme's granted cert.
- 2009
- 01:40:14,550 --> 01:40:16,050
- Emergency expedited basis.
- 2010
- 01:40:16,052 --> 01:40:18,022
- We're in court
- with The Times tomorrow.
- 2011
- 01:40:20,257 --> 01:40:22,126
- What are you so happy about?
- 2012
- 01:40:27,866 --> 01:40:31,536
- I always wanted to be part
- of a small rebellion.
- 2013
- 01:40:41,744 --> 01:40:43,646
- I asked him
- what he considers...
- 2014
- 01:40:43,648 --> 01:40:45,313
- the most important revelations
- 2015
- 01:40:45,315 --> 01:40:47,583
- to date
- from the Pentagon documents.
- 2016
- 01:40:47,585 --> 01:40:49,617
- I think the lesson is
- the people of this country...
- 2017
- 01:40:49,619 --> 01:40:51,352
- can't afford
- to let the President
- 2018
- 01:40:51,354 --> 01:40:53,556
- run the country by himself.
- 2019
- 01:40:53,558 --> 01:40:56,057
- Even foreign affairs any more
- than domestic affairs,
- 2020
- 01:40:56,059 --> 01:40:57,625
- without the help of Congress.
- 2021
- 01:40:57,627 --> 01:40:58,727
- I was struck, in fact,
- 2022
- 01:40:58,729 --> 01:40:59,928
- by President Johnson's
- reaction...
- 2023
- 01:40:59,930 --> 01:41:02,664
- to these revelations
- as close to treason.
- 2024
- 01:41:02,666 --> 01:41:04,599
- Because it reflected
- to me the sense
- 2025
- 01:41:04,601 --> 01:41:07,169
- that what was damaging
- to the reputation...
- 2026
- 01:41:07,171 --> 01:41:08,736
- of a particular
- administration,
- 2027
- 01:41:08,738 --> 01:41:10,406
- a particular individual...
- 2028
- 01:41:10,408 --> 01:41:12,641
- was in itself treason.
- 2029
- 01:41:12,643 --> 01:41:15,747
- Which is very close to saying,
- "I am the State."
- 2030
- 01:41:21,984 --> 01:41:23,317
- But this is
- a self-governing country.
- 2031
- 01:41:23,319 --> 01:41:24,820
- Ben?
- 2032
- 01:41:24,822 --> 01:41:27,656
- The Constitution provides
- for a separation of powers...
- 2033
- 01:41:27,658 --> 01:41:30,829
- What on earth are you doing?
- 2034
- 01:41:46,109 --> 01:41:49,179
- They all followed your lead
- and published the papers.
- 2035
- 01:41:50,113 --> 01:41:52,483
- At least we're not alone.
- 2036
- 01:41:53,283 --> 01:41:54,816
- No matter
- what happens tomorrow,
- 2037
- 01:41:54,818 --> 01:41:57,852
- we are not
- a little local paper anymore.
- 2038
- 01:41:57,854 --> 01:41:58,922
- Hmm.
- 2039
- 01:42:11,536 --> 01:42:12,634
- I'd be very interested
- in your opinion.
- 2040
- 01:42:12,636 --> 01:42:13,968
- Sounds good.
- 2041
- 01:42:13,970 --> 01:42:15,169
- All right, I'll see you
- at the first break.
- 2042
- 01:42:15,171 --> 01:42:16,174
- All right.
- 2043
- 01:42:18,141 --> 01:42:19,644
- I am sorry.
- 2044
- 01:42:23,514 --> 01:42:25,313
- Mrs. Graham,
- there's an entrance
- 2045
- 01:42:25,315 --> 01:42:26,682
- around the side
- for the appellants.
- 2046
- 01:42:26,684 --> 01:42:28,086
- Oh, thank you very much.
- 2047
- 01:42:29,485 --> 01:42:31,152
- I'm sorry I'm walking so fast.
- 2048
- 01:42:31,154 --> 01:42:33,455
- I was supposed to be here
- half hour ago...
- 2049
- 01:42:33,457 --> 01:42:34,923
- but then I had to
- make copies of the brief
- 2050
- 01:42:34,925 --> 01:42:36,525
- and there
- was so much traffic...
- 2051
- 01:42:36,527 --> 01:42:37,625
- and you just wouldn't think
- 2052
- 01:42:37,627 --> 01:42:38,861
- there'd be all these people,
- you know?
- 2053
- 01:42:38,863 --> 01:42:41,263
- No, you wouldn't.
- You work for Roger Clark then?
- 2054
- 01:42:41,265 --> 01:42:42,630
- I work for the government.
- 2055
- 01:42:42,632 --> 01:42:44,700
- The Solicitor
- General's office.
- 2056
- 01:42:44,702 --> 01:42:46,401
- Oh. You're on the other team.
- 2057
- 01:42:46,403 --> 01:42:47,604
- Mrs. Graham...
- 2058
- 01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:51,440
- I probably shouldn't say this.
- 2059
- 01:42:51,442 --> 01:42:54,746
- My brother,
- he's still over there and...
- 2060
- 01:42:58,114 --> 01:43:00,184
- Well, I hope you win.
- 2061
- 01:43:01,585 --> 01:43:02,817
- Besides, I like someone
- 2062
- 01:43:02,819 --> 01:43:04,453
- telling these guys
- what's what.
- 2063
- 01:43:04,455 --> 01:43:05,687
- But don't tell my boss
- I said that.
- 2064
- 01:43:05,689 --> 01:43:07,129
- He'd fire me just
- for talking to you.
- 2065
- 01:43:15,099 --> 01:43:16,598
- - Ben.
- - How are ya, kid?
- 2066
- 01:43:16,600 --> 01:43:18,168
- - Fritz.
- - Roger.
- 2067
- 01:43:21,904 --> 01:43:23,438
- I told you
- to be here at eight.
- 2068
- 01:43:23,440 --> 01:43:24,505
- Yes. I was here at eight,
- 2069
- 01:43:24,507 --> 01:43:25,673
- but Richard
- sent me back to make...
- 2070
- 01:43:25,675 --> 01:43:26,808
- Is Richard your boss?
- 2071
- 01:43:26,810 --> 01:43:28,777
- No, but you weren't here so...
- 2072
- 01:43:28,779 --> 01:43:31,683
- I don't want excuses.
- Just take a seat.
- 2073
- 01:43:33,117 --> 01:43:34,249
- Mrs. Graham.
- 2074
- 01:43:34,251 --> 01:43:35,320
- Morning.
- 2075
- 01:43:38,689 --> 01:43:40,522
- Morning, gentlemen.
- Good to see you.
- 2076
- 01:43:40,524 --> 01:43:42,624
- - Kay.
- - Punch, Abe.
- 2077
- 01:43:42,626 --> 01:43:44,892
- Nice to be on the same
- side for a change.
- 2078
- 01:43:44,894 --> 01:43:46,495
- I'll tell you what's nice...
- 2079
- 01:43:46,497 --> 01:43:50,398
- making the front page of your
- newspaper on a daily basis.
- 2080
- 01:43:50,400 --> 01:43:52,300
- Must be a lot of people
- from Boston
- 2081
- 01:43:52,302 --> 01:43:54,037
- to Washington
- reading about us.
- 2082
- 01:43:54,505 --> 01:43:56,004
- Yes...
- 2083
- 01:43:56,006 --> 01:43:58,673
- well, I suppose
- it's appropriate...
- 2084
- 01:43:58,675 --> 01:44:00,344
- given what's at stake.
- 2085
- 01:44:01,545 --> 01:44:02,747
- All rise.
- 2086
- 01:44:06,283 --> 01:44:07,882
- The Honorable,
- the Chief Justice
- 2087
- 01:44:07,884 --> 01:44:09,218
- and the Associate Justices...
- 2088
- 01:44:09,220 --> 01:44:12,454
- of the Supreme Court
- of the United States.
- 2089
- 01:44:12,456 --> 01:44:15,760
- Oyez, oyez, oyez.
- 2090
- 01:44:16,793 --> 01:44:18,526
- All persons
- having business before
- 2091
- 01:44:18,528 --> 01:44:21,263
- the Honorable
- of the Supreme Court...
- 2092
- 01:44:21,265 --> 01:44:23,632
- Mr. Rosenthal. Mr. Rosenthal.
- 2093
- 01:44:23,634 --> 01:44:24,967
- Mr. Sulzberger,
- do you think
- 2094
- 01:44:24,969 --> 01:44:26,535
- they'll decide in your favor?
- 2095
- 01:44:26,537 --> 01:44:29,237
- Well, overall
- we feel encouraged.
- 2096
- 01:44:29,239 --> 01:44:33,142
- 27 congressmen filed
- amicus briefs on our behalf.
- 2097
- 01:44:33,144 --> 01:44:34,276
- As well as the ACLU...
- 2098
- 01:44:34,278 --> 01:44:35,143
- We should make a statement.
- 2099
- 01:44:35,145 --> 01:44:36,544
- You would think
- that's her job.
- 2100
- 01:44:36,546 --> 01:44:40,048
- I believe everything we had
- to say we've already said.
- 2101
- 01:44:40,050 --> 01:44:42,386
- Well, we feel confident...
- 2102
- 01:45:00,438 --> 01:45:01,839
- Meg Greenfield.
- 2103
- 01:45:03,040 --> 01:45:04,138
- Okay.
- 2104
- 01:45:04,140 --> 01:45:07,342
- Everyone, listen up!
- Listen up!
- 2105
- 01:45:07,344 --> 01:45:08,677
- We've got a decision.
- 2106
- 01:45:08,679 --> 01:45:10,448
- We've got a decision.
- 2107
- 01:45:13,884 --> 01:45:15,150
- - Where'd they go?
- - The same place.
- 2108
- 01:45:15,152 --> 01:45:18,056
- The Supreme Court.
- The decision's in.
- 2109
- 01:45:28,698 --> 01:45:30,701
- The vote is...
- 2110
- 01:45:31,969 --> 01:45:33,438
- 6-3.
- 2111
- 01:45:34,304 --> 01:45:36,105
- 6-3. We win.
- 2112
- 01:45:36,107 --> 01:45:38,773
- We win! And so does The Times!
- 2113
- 01:45:42,380 --> 01:45:43,381
- Yes!
- 2114
- 01:45:46,617 --> 01:45:48,219
- No shit!
- 2115
- 01:45:51,154 --> 01:45:53,254
- Nice job, Gene.
- 2116
- 01:45:53,256 --> 01:45:55,826
- - No gloating! No gloating.
- - I'm just satisfied.
- 2117
- 01:46:00,430 --> 01:46:03,432
- What? I can't hear you.
- It's too loud.
- 2118
- 01:46:03,434 --> 01:46:04,666
- Okay.
- 2119
- 01:46:04,668 --> 01:46:06,535
- Listen up, everybody.
- Listen up.
- 2120
- 01:46:06,537 --> 01:46:08,404
- Justice Black's opinion.
- 2121
- 01:46:08,406 --> 01:46:09,407
- Okay.
- 2122
- 01:46:11,876 --> 01:46:15,210
- "The founding fathers
- gave the free press...
- 2123
- 01:46:15,212 --> 01:46:17,982
- "the protection
- it must have...
- 2124
- 01:46:20,384 --> 01:46:24,488
- "to fulfill its essential role
- in our democracy.
- 2125
- 01:46:27,858 --> 01:46:30,191
- "The press was
- to serve the governed,
- 2126
- 01:46:30,193 --> 01:46:31,660
- "not the governors."
- 2127
- 01:46:36,399 --> 01:46:37,400
- Thank you.
- 2128
- 01:46:56,552 --> 01:46:58,189
- That looks great.
- 2129
- 01:47:13,871 --> 01:47:17,505
- You know what my husband
- said about the news?
- 2130
- 01:47:17,507 --> 01:47:20,875
- He called it the first
- rough draft of history.
- 2131
- 01:47:20,877 --> 01:47:23,544
- That's good, isn't it?
- 2132
- 01:47:23,546 --> 01:47:26,313
- Oh, well, we don't always
- get it right, you know?
- 2133
- 01:47:26,315 --> 01:47:28,550
- We're not always perfect,
- but I think
- 2134
- 01:47:28,552 --> 01:47:30,785
- if we just keep on it,
- you know?
- 2135
- 01:47:30,787 --> 01:47:32,322
- That's the job, isn't it?
- 2136
- 01:47:36,792 --> 01:47:38,228
- Yes, it is.
- 2137
- 01:47:53,943 --> 01:47:56,645
- Oh, Ken Clawson came by
- to see me earlier.
- 2138
- 01:47:56,647 --> 01:47:57,779
- Oh?
- 2139
- 01:47:57,781 --> 01:47:59,748
- Apparently,
- Justice is still considering
- 2140
- 01:47:59,750 --> 01:48:01,016
- criminal charges against us.
- 2141
- 01:48:01,018 --> 01:48:02,950
- Yeah, well,
- I bet they are.
- 2142
- 01:48:02,952 --> 01:48:04,285
- And you're not worried.
- 2143
- 01:48:04,287 --> 01:48:06,522
- Nope. No, Katharine,
- that's your job.
- 2144
- 01:48:06,524 --> 01:48:07,989
- I suppose it is.
- 2145
- 01:48:07,991 --> 01:48:11,159
- Oh, thank God the court ruling
- was very clear.
- 2146
- 01:48:11,161 --> 01:48:14,763
- Yeah, well, I'm sure
- Nixon will fall right in line.
- 2147
- 01:48:14,765 --> 01:48:16,196
- Hmm.
- Good, because you know...
- 2148
- 01:48:16,198 --> 01:48:17,965
- I don't think
- I could ever live through
- 2149
- 01:48:17,967 --> 01:48:19,604
- something like this again.
- 2150
- 01:48:21,104 --> 01:48:23,071
- I want it
- clearly understood
- 2151
- 01:48:23,073 --> 01:48:25,539
- that from now on, ever...
- 2152
- 01:48:25,541 --> 01:48:28,177
- no reporter
- from The Washington Post
- 2153
- 01:48:28,179 --> 01:48:29,878
- is ever to be
- in the White House.
- 2154
- 01:48:29,880 --> 01:48:31,482
- - Is that clear?
- - Absolutely.
- 2155
- 01:48:32,983 --> 01:48:35,416
- Never.
- Never in the White House.
- 2156
- 01:48:35,418 --> 01:48:38,920
- No church service.
- Nothing that Mrs. Nixon does.
- 2157
- 01:48:38,922 --> 01:48:40,856
- You tell Connie,
- "Don't tell Mrs. Nixon,"
- 2158
- 01:48:40,858 --> 01:48:42,089
- 'cause she'll approve it.
- 2159
- 01:48:42,091 --> 01:48:44,927
- No reporter
- from The Washington Post
- 2160
- 01:48:44,929 --> 01:48:47,227
- is ever to be
- in the White House again.
- 2161
- 01:48:47,229 --> 01:48:48,897
- And no photographer either.
- 2162
- 01:48:48,899 --> 01:48:50,598
- No photographer,
- is that clear?
- 2163
- 01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:52,767
- None ever to be in.
- 2164
- 01:48:52,769 --> 01:48:54,335
- Now that is a total order.
- 2165
- 01:48:54,337 --> 01:48:56,170
- And if necessary,
- I'll fire you.
- 2166
- 01:48:56,172 --> 01:48:57,804
- - You understand?
- - I do understand.
- 2167
- 01:48:57,806 --> 01:49:00,411
- Okay. All right. Good.
- 2168
- 01:49:20,965 --> 01:49:22,496
- DC police, second precinct.
- 2169
- 01:49:22,498 --> 01:49:24,333
- Yes, hello.
- This is Frank Wills.
- 2170
- 01:49:24,335 --> 01:49:26,168
- I think we might have
- a burglary in progress
- 2171
- 01:49:26,170 --> 01:49:28,072
- at The Watergate.
- 2172
- 01:49:28,074 --> 01:49:33,074
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