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  3. Subtitles by explosiveskull
  4. Resync by GoldenBeard
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  8. ♪ Well, take me back down
  9. where cool water flow, yeh
  10.  
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  13. ♪ Let me remember
  14. things I love
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  18. Dan. Your rifle.
  19.  
  20. 5
  21. 00:01:19,757 --> 00:01:21,256
  22. All right,
  23. do them all.
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  27. First and second squad, too.
  28.  
  29. 7
  30. 00:01:22,491 --> 00:01:25,663
  31. ♪ Stoppin' at the log
  32. where catfish bite
  33.  
  34. 8
  35. 00:01:26,663 --> 00:01:28,229
  36. Who's the longhair?
  37.  
  38. 9
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  40. That's Ellsberg. Works for
  41. Lansdale at the embassy.
  42.  
  43. 10
  44. 00:01:32,368 --> 00:01:33,903
  45. He's observing.
  46.  
  47. 11
  48. 00:01:35,972 --> 00:01:39,510
  49. ♪ I can hear
  50. the bull frog callin' me
  51.  
  52. 12
  53. 00:01:42,746 --> 00:01:46,714
  54. ♪ Wonder if my rope's
  55. still hangin' to the tree
  56.  
  57. 13
  58. 00:01:46,716 --> 00:01:47,815
  59. Let's move out.
  60.  
  61. 14
  62. 00:01:47,817 --> 00:01:49,950
  63. Let's go. Moving out.
  64.  
  65. 15
  66. 00:01:49,952 --> 00:01:53,188
  67. ♪ Love to kick my feet
  68. way down the shallow water
  69.  
  70. 16
  71. 00:01:53,190 --> 00:01:56,557
  72. ♪ Shoe fly, dragon fly,
  73. get back to your mother
  74.  
  75. 17
  76. 00:01:56,559 --> 00:01:58,660
  77. I'll take good care of it.
  78.  
  79. 18
  80. 00:01:58,662 --> 00:02:00,830
  81. ♪ Skip it across Green
  82. River ♪
  83.  
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  86. Bravo 27,
  87. this is Kilo 4 Tango.
  88.  
  89. 20
  90. 00:03:19,542 --> 00:03:23,681
  91. Fire mission. Grid 298471.
  92.  
  93. 21
  94. 00:03:24,847 --> 00:03:26,951
  95. Lay down.
  96.  
  97. 22
  98. 00:03:38,895 --> 00:03:41,362
  99. Just hang in there, buddy.
  100. They're gonna fix you up.
  101.  
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  104. Dan?
  105.  
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  108. Dan?
  109.  
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  112. Dan!
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  116. Secretary would like a word.
  117. You wanna follow me?
  118.  
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  121. Well, you can say what
  122. you want to the President.
  123.  
  124. 28
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  126. I've read every one
  127. of Ellsberg's reports...
  128.  
  129. 29
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  131. and I'm telling you,
  132. it's just not the case.
  133.  
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  136. Dan, you know Mr. Komer.
  137.  
  138. 31
  139. 00:04:25,042 --> 00:04:26,941
  140. He's been discussing the war
  141. with the President...
  142.  
  143. 32
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  145. and, well,
  146. his sense is that we've made
  147.  
  148. 33
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  150. real progress
  151. over the past year...
  152.  
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  155. but I've been doing my own
  156. review, and it seems to me...
  157.  
  158. 35
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  160. that things have gotten worse.
  161.  
  162. 36
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  164. But neither of us
  165. have been in the field.
  166.  
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  169. You have,
  170. you're the one who knows.
  171.  
  172. 38
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  174. So, what do you say?
  175.  
  176. 39
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  178. Are things better or worse?
  179.  
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  182. Well, Mr. Secretary...
  183.  
  184. 41
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  186. what I'm most impressed by is
  187. how much things are the same.
  188.  
  189. 42
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  191. You see, that's exactly
  192. what I'm saying.
  193.  
  194. 43
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  196. We put another
  197. hundred thousand troops
  198.  
  199. 44
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  201. into the field,
  202. things are no better.
  203.  
  204. 45
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  206. To me, that means things
  207. are actually worse.
  208.  
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  211. Thank you, Dan.
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  215. Mr. Secretary!
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  219. Mr. Secretary! Sir!
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  223. How was
  224. your trip, sir? Sir.
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  228. Good afternoon, gentlemen.
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  232. I don't have
  233. any prepared remarks...
  234.  
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  237. but I'd be very happy to take
  238. your questions one at a time.
  239.  
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  242. - Jim.
  243. - Mr. Secretary...
  244.  
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  247. I'm wondering
  248. if the trip left you
  249.  
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  252. optimistic or pessimistic...
  253.  
  254. 56
  255. 00:05:20,463 --> 00:05:22,898
  256. about our prospects in this
  257. war and our ability to win it.
  258.  
  259. 57
  260. 00:05:22,900 --> 00:05:25,100
  261. He asked whether I was
  262. optimistic or pessimistic.
  263.  
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  266. Today, I can tell you
  267. that military progress
  268.  
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  271. over the past 12 months...
  272.  
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  275. has exceeded our expectations.
  276.  
  277. 61
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  279. We're very encouraged by what
  280. we're seeing in Vietnam.
  281.  
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  284. In every respect,
  285. we're making progress.
  286.  
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  289. And I'm especially pleased
  290. to have had
  291.  
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  293. 00:05:35,778 --> 00:05:37,345
  294. Bob Komer along for the trip.
  295.  
  296. 65
  297. 00:05:37,347 --> 00:05:38,379
  298. So he could see for himself
  299.  
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  302. that we've been
  303. showing great improvement...
  304.  
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  307. in every dimension
  308. of the war effort.
  309.  
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  311. 00:05:45,487 --> 00:05:46,823
  312. Derek.
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  316. Good night, Dan.
  317.  
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  319. 00:06:56,059 --> 00:06:58,261
  320. - Good night, Dan.
  321. - Night, guys.
  322.  
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  325. You okay, Dan?
  326.  
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  328. 00:07:06,869 --> 00:07:09,470
  329. Yeah. Yeah, thought
  330. I'd forgot something.
  331.  
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  334. I didn't.
  335.  
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  338. Next left on Melrose.
  339.  
  340. 75
  341. 00:08:27,484 --> 00:08:29,783
  342. We have committed
  343. ourselves to the cause...
  344.  
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  346. 00:08:29,785 --> 00:08:31,718
  347. of a just
  348. and peaceful world order
  349.  
  350. 77
  351. 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,887
  352. through the United Nations.
  353.  
  354. 78
  355. 00:08:33,889 --> 00:08:35,990
  356. "May 3rd, 1950.
  357.  
  358. 79
  359. 00:08:35,992 --> 00:08:37,958
  360. "President Truman
  361. approved $10 million
  362.  
  363. 80
  364. 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:39,897
  365. "in military aid
  366. to Indochina."
  367.  
  368. 81
  369. 00:08:46,502 --> 00:08:48,136
  370. America's leadership
  371.  
  372. 82
  373. 00:08:48,138 --> 00:08:49,603
  374. and prestige depend...
  375.  
  376. 83
  377. 00:08:49,605 --> 00:08:53,974
  378. on how we use our power in
  379. the interests of world peace.
  380.  
  381. 84
  382. 00:08:53,976 --> 00:08:55,910
  383. "I feel concerned
  384. about paragraph six...
  385.  
  386. 85
  387. 00:08:55,912 --> 00:08:57,344
  388. "which gives
  389. authority to control
  390.  
  391. 86
  392. 00:08:57,346 --> 00:08:59,282
  393. "general elections
  394. in Vietnam."
  395.  
  396. 87
  397. 00:09:01,517 --> 00:09:03,818
  398. The United
  399. States, as the world knows,
  400.  
  401. 88
  402. 00:09:03,820 --> 00:09:06,123
  403. will never start a war.
  404.  
  405. 89
  406. 00:09:06,889 --> 00:09:08,923
  407. "May 11th, 1961.
  408.  
  409. 90
  410. 00:09:08,925 --> 00:09:10,190
  411. "President Kennedy orders
  412.  
  413. 91
  414. 00:09:10,192 --> 00:09:11,793
  415. "a full examination
  416. by the Defense Department...
  417.  
  418. 92
  419. 00:09:11,795 --> 00:09:15,165
  420. "of a possible commitment
  421. of U.S. forces to Vietnam."
  422.  
  423. 93
  424. 00:09:19,234 --> 00:09:22,402
  425. We are not
  426. about to send American boys...
  427.  
  428. 94
  429. 00:09:22,404 --> 00:09:25,540
  430. 9 or 10,000 miles
  431. away from home...
  432.  
  433. 95
  434. 00:09:25,542 --> 00:09:29,642
  435. to do what Asian boys ought
  436. to be doing for themselves.
  437.  
  438. 96
  439. 00:09:29,644 --> 00:09:32,146
  440. "President Johnson chose to
  441. reaffirm the Kennedy policies.
  442.  
  443. 97
  444. 00:09:32,148 --> 00:09:33,982
  445. "Military operations
  446. should be initiated
  447.  
  448. 98
  449. 00:09:33,984 --> 00:09:36,018
  450. "under close
  451. political control."
  452.  
  453. 99
  454. 00:10:21,965 --> 00:10:24,098
  455. Can we just do the numbers
  456.  
  457. 100
  458. 00:10:24,100 --> 00:10:25,534
  459. just one more time?
  460.  
  461. 101
  462. 00:10:26,569 --> 00:10:28,736
  463. The company's selling
  464. how many shares?
  465.  
  466. 102
  467. 00:10:28,738 --> 00:10:31,304
  468. 1.35 million shares.
  469.  
  470. 103
  471. 00:10:31,306 --> 00:10:33,274
  472. And the price range is?
  473.  
  474. 104
  475. 00:10:33,276 --> 00:10:36,810
  476. Between $24.50
  477. and $27 per share.
  478.  
  479. 105
  480. 00:10:36,812 --> 00:10:38,747
  481. Not exactly
  482. a huge difference.
  483.  
  484. 106
  485. 00:10:38,749 --> 00:10:40,881
  486. For them.
  487. But, you know, the bankers
  488.  
  489. 107
  490. 00:10:40,883 --> 00:10:42,415
  491. always do fiddle
  492. with the prices.
  493.  
  494. 108
  495. 00:10:42,417 --> 00:10:46,085
  496. But for us,
  497. that's over $3 million...
  498.  
  499. 109
  500. 00:10:46,087 --> 00:10:48,990
  501. and that represents
  502. over five years' salary
  503.  
  504. 110
  505. 00:10:48,992 --> 00:10:50,891
  506. for 25 good reporters.
  507.  
  508. 111
  509. 00:10:50,893 --> 00:10:53,194
  510. Good. But why spend
  511. in the newsroom?
  512.  
  513. 112
  514. 00:10:53,196 --> 00:10:54,761
  515. You're far less profitable
  516.  
  517. 113
  518. 00:10:54,763 --> 00:10:56,731
  519. than Gannett
  520. or Knight or Ridder.
  521.  
  522. 114
  523. 00:10:56,733 --> 00:10:58,165
  524. Gannett and Knight and Ridder
  525.  
  526. 115
  527. 00:10:58,167 --> 00:11:01,135
  528. own monopoly papers
  529. in smaller cities.
  530.  
  531. 116
  532. 00:11:01,137 --> 00:11:03,871
  533. And our readers are leaders,
  534. you know.
  535.  
  536. 117
  537. 00:11:03,873 --> 00:11:05,372
  538. They're educated.
  539. They demand more.
  540.  
  541. 118
  542. 00:11:05,374 --> 00:11:09,412
  543. That's why we invest
  544. in really good reporters.
  545.  
  546. 119
  547. 00:11:10,046 --> 00:11:11,112
  548. And so...
  549.  
  550. 120
  551. 00:11:11,114 --> 00:11:13,814
  552. Because quality
  553. and profitability
  554.  
  555. 121
  556. 00:11:13,816 --> 00:11:15,882
  557. do go hand in hand.
  558.  
  559. 122
  560. 00:11:16,985 --> 00:11:18,252
  561. - See?
  562. - Yeah.
  563.  
  564. 123
  565. 00:11:18,254 --> 00:11:20,654
  566. - You know all this already.
  567. - Oh, gosh!
  568.  
  569. 124
  570. 00:11:20,656 --> 00:11:21,622
  571. I don't know if I do.
  572.  
  573. 125
  574. 00:11:21,624 --> 00:11:23,190
  575. - I should get to breakfast.
  576. - Yeah.
  577.  
  578. 126
  579. 00:11:23,192 --> 00:11:24,891
  580. We don't want Paul or Arthur
  581. too antsy this afternoon.
  582.  
  583. 127
  584. 00:11:24,893 --> 00:11:26,093
  585. No.
  586.  
  587. 128
  588. 00:11:26,095 --> 00:11:27,929
  589. Good luck.
  590.  
  591. 129
  592. 00:11:27,931 --> 00:11:29,566
  593. - And thank you, Fritz.
  594. - Mmm-hmm.
  595.  
  596. 130
  597. 00:11:31,066 --> 00:11:32,800
  598. - See you downtown.
  599. - I'll see you.
  600.  
  601. 131
  602. 00:11:32,802 --> 00:11:34,468
  603. You think
  604. this is really necessary?
  605.  
  606. 132
  607. 00:11:34,470 --> 00:11:35,670
  608. Oh, God, yes.
  609.  
  610. 133
  611. 00:11:35,672 --> 00:11:39,240
  612. Darling, you should hear how
  613. they talk at these meetings.
  614.  
  615. 134
  616. 00:11:39,242 --> 00:11:40,909
  617. It's as if
  618. it's in a foreign language.
  619.  
  620. 135
  621. 00:11:40,911 --> 00:11:43,213
  622. No, I meant
  623. taking the company public.
  624.  
  625. 136
  626. 00:11:48,283 --> 00:11:51,785
  627. It seems we are cash poor.
  628.  
  629. 137
  630. 00:11:51,787 --> 00:11:53,286
  631. You know, barely solvent.
  632.  
  633. 138
  634. 00:11:53,288 --> 00:11:54,955
  635. That's the newspaper business.
  636.  
  637. 139
  638. 00:11:54,957 --> 00:11:56,357
  639. That's
  640. our newspaper business...
  641.  
  642. 140
  643. 00:11:56,359 --> 00:11:57,958
  644. and we need
  645. the public offering
  646.  
  647. 141
  648. 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,160
  649. to stay in business
  650. and to continue to grow.
  651.  
  652. 142
  653. 00:12:00,162 --> 00:12:01,462
  654. That's what Fritz says.
  655.  
  656. 143
  657. 00:12:01,464 --> 00:12:03,263
  658. And he also says
  659. that the family
  660.  
  661. 144
  662. 00:12:03,265 --> 00:12:05,501
  663. can maintain control if we...
  664.  
  665. 145
  666. 00:12:06,769 --> 00:12:08,602
  667. Anyway, I'm just not sure
  668. your grandfather...
  669.  
  670. 146
  671. 00:12:08,604 --> 00:12:10,938
  672. would have wanted us to
  673. give up any control at all.
  674.  
  675. 147
  676. 00:12:14,210 --> 00:12:16,243
  677. - Hello?
  678. - Mrs. Graham?
  679.  
  680. 148
  681. 00:12:16,245 --> 00:12:18,179
  682. Yes? This is she.
  683.  
  684. 149
  685. 00:12:18,181 --> 00:12:20,749
  686. Please hold
  687. for the Chief of Staff.
  688.  
  689. 150
  690. 00:12:21,683 --> 00:12:22,685
  691. Who is it?
  692.  
  693. 151
  694. 00:12:23,686 --> 00:12:25,352
  695. Haldeman.
  696.  
  697. 152
  698. 00:12:25,354 --> 00:12:26,753
  699. Mrs. Graham,
  700. Bob Haldeman.
  701.  
  702. 153
  703. 00:12:26,755 --> 00:12:28,287
  704. Yes, hello.
  705.  
  706. 154
  707. 00:12:28,289 --> 00:12:31,391
  708. We've got a bit of
  709. an issue over here.
  710.  
  711. 155
  712. 00:12:31,393 --> 00:12:33,059
  713. Oh?
  714.  
  715. 156
  716. 00:12:33,061 --> 00:12:34,428
  717. Well,
  718. that makes perfect sense.
  719.  
  720. 157
  721. 00:12:34,430 --> 00:12:35,996
  722. Do you agree with that?
  723.  
  724. 158
  725. 00:12:35,998 --> 00:12:37,964
  726. Without a doubt.
  727.  
  728. 159
  729. 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,276
  730. Oh, Jesus.
  731.  
  732. 160
  733. 00:12:47,510 --> 00:12:49,208
  734. I'm so sorry.
  735.  
  736. 161
  737. 00:12:49,210 --> 00:12:50,878
  738. - Sorry, sorry, sorry.
  739. - Good morning.
  740.  
  741. 162
  742. 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:55,982
  743. So late. I had to get all this
  744. stuff together...
  745.  
  746. 163
  747. 00:12:55,984 --> 00:12:58,085
  748. and then I had
  749. an unexpected call.
  750.  
  751. 164
  752. 00:12:58,087 --> 00:13:00,987
  753. Well, what is
  754. with the suitcase?
  755.  
  756. 165
  757. 00:13:00,989 --> 00:13:04,125
  758. Ben, I told you,
  759. this is the day.
  760.  
  761. 166
  762. 00:13:04,127 --> 00:13:05,526
  763. We're meeting
  764. with the bankers today.
  765.  
  766. 167
  767. 00:13:05,528 --> 00:13:08,094
  768. - Oh, yes. Right, right.
  769. - You know this.
  770.  
  771. 168
  772. 00:13:08,096 --> 00:13:09,796
  773. I bet you every dollar
  774. in my wallet
  775.  
  776. 169
  777. 00:13:09,798 --> 00:13:10,930
  778. that you are
  779. the only person...
  780.  
  781. 170
  782. 00:13:10,932 --> 00:13:13,367
  783. in that boardroom who's read
  784. through all that nonsense.
  785.  
  786. 171
  787. 00:13:13,369 --> 00:13:16,102
  788. I'm probably
  789. the only one who needs to.
  790.  
  791. 172
  792. 00:13:16,104 --> 00:13:18,939
  793. What do you think
  794. of Neil Sheehan?
  795.  
  796. 173
  797. 00:13:18,941 --> 00:13:20,940
  798. Oh, gosh,
  799. his coverage of Vietnam
  800.  
  801. 174
  802. 00:13:20,942 --> 00:13:22,676
  803. is just absolutely marvelous.
  804.  
  805. 175
  806. 00:13:22,678 --> 00:13:23,810
  807. Why?
  808.  
  809. 176
  810. 00:13:23,812 --> 00:13:26,247
  811. You thinking of trying to
  812. steal him from The Times?
  813.  
  814. 177
  815. 00:13:26,249 --> 00:13:27,747
  816. I'm not sure
  817. we can afford him.
  818.  
  819. 178
  820. 00:13:27,749 --> 00:13:30,952
  821. He... He hasn't had
  822. a piece in three months.
  823.  
  824. 179
  825. 00:13:30,954 --> 00:13:32,319
  826. Oh?
  827.  
  828. 180
  829. 00:13:32,321 --> 00:13:34,421
  830. Do you think
  831. he's onto something?
  832.  
  833. 181
  834. 00:13:34,423 --> 00:13:36,690
  835. Well, I saw Abe
  836. at a dinner party last week
  837.  
  838. 182
  839. 00:13:36,692 --> 00:13:40,294
  840. and he was looking
  841. mighty, mighty smug.
  842.  
  843. 183
  844. 00:13:40,296 --> 00:13:42,796
  845. Doesn't he always?
  846.  
  847. 184
  848. 00:13:42,798 --> 00:13:43,931
  849. So who was it?
  850.  
  851. 185
  852. 00:13:43,933 --> 00:13:45,065
  853. Who was what?
  854.  
  855. 186
  856. 00:13:45,067 --> 00:13:47,200
  857. Your unexpected call.
  858.  
  859. 187
  860. 00:13:47,202 --> 00:13:50,271
  861. Oh, I buried the lede.
  862.  
  863. 188
  864. 00:13:50,273 --> 00:13:52,205
  865. The White House.
  866.  
  867. 189
  868. 00:13:52,207 --> 00:13:54,175
  869. - Haldeman rang.
  870. - Yeah?
  871.  
  872. 190
  873. 00:13:54,177 --> 00:13:56,377
  874. It seems
  875. the President has decided
  876.  
  877. 191
  878. 00:13:56,379 --> 00:13:58,246
  879. not to provide Judith...
  880.  
  881. 192
  882. 00:13:58,248 --> 00:14:00,314
  883. with credentials
  884. to cover the Nixon wedding.
  885.  
  886. 193
  887. 00:14:00,316 --> 00:14:02,348
  888. - Jesus Christ.
  889. - Yeah.
  890.  
  891. 194
  892. 00:14:02,350 --> 00:14:04,584
  893. They said we could
  894. send another reporter.
  895.  
  896. 195
  897. 00:14:04,586 --> 00:14:07,253
  898. Oh, yeah? Can't believe that.
  899.  
  900. 196
  901. 00:14:07,255 --> 00:14:08,988
  902. I know, I know.
  903.  
  904. 197
  905. 00:14:08,990 --> 00:14:10,357
  906. - But...
  907. - But what?
  908.  
  909. 198
  910. 00:14:10,359 --> 00:14:11,592
  911. I'm not sure I entirely blame
  912.  
  913. 199
  914. 00:14:11,594 --> 00:14:13,460
  915. the President
  916. on this one, Ben.
  917.  
  918. 200
  919. 00:14:13,462 --> 00:14:14,661
  920. No?
  921.  
  922. 201
  923. 00:14:14,663 --> 00:14:16,631
  924. Would you want Judith to cover
  925. your daughter's wedding?
  926.  
  927. 202
  928. 00:14:16,633 --> 00:14:18,332
  929. Well, my daughter's
  930. only 10 years old...
  931.  
  932. 203
  933. 00:14:18,334 --> 00:14:20,067
  934. I think she burned her bridges
  935.  
  936. 204
  937. 00:14:20,069 --> 00:14:22,170
  938. when she
  939. crashed Julie's reception.
  940.  
  941. 205
  942. 00:14:22,172 --> 00:14:23,771
  943. - They're being punitive.
  944. - Her pen is so sharp.
  945.  
  946. 206
  947. 00:14:23,773 --> 00:14:25,173
  948. - Of course it's punitive.
  949. - This is punitive.
  950.  
  951. 207
  952. 00:14:25,175 --> 00:14:27,440
  953. Of course it's punitive.
  954.  
  955. 208
  956. 00:14:27,442 --> 00:14:31,444
  957. She compared Tricia Nixon
  958. to a vanilla ice cream cone.
  959.  
  960. 209
  961. 00:14:31,446 --> 00:14:33,780
  962. - Yeah, she did.
  963. - Yeah.
  964.  
  965. 210
  966. 00:14:33,782 --> 00:14:35,616
  967. I mean, why would
  968. her father want Judy
  969.  
  970. 211
  971. 00:14:35,618 --> 00:14:37,184
  972. to cover
  973. his daughter's wedding?
  974.  
  975. 212
  976. 00:14:37,186 --> 00:14:38,685
  977. Oh, come on.
  978.  
  979. 213
  980. 00:14:38,687 --> 00:14:39,987
  981. I just...
  982.  
  983. 214
  984. 00:14:39,989 --> 00:14:43,623
  985. Are you sure we're striking
  986. the right tone here, Ben?
  987.  
  988. 215
  989. 00:14:43,625 --> 00:14:45,025
  990. Oh, we're gonna
  991. do this again?
  992.  
  993. 216
  994. 00:14:45,027 --> 00:14:46,993
  995. No. Uh,
  996. the New Style section.
  997.  
  998. 217
  999. 00:14:46,995 --> 00:14:50,463
  1000. Sometimes that stiletto party
  1001. coverage can be a little mean.
  1002.  
  1003. 218
  1004. 00:14:50,465 --> 00:14:52,433
  1005. I'm handling it.
  1006. I'm looking for a new editor.
  1007.  
  1008. 219
  1009. 00:14:52,435 --> 00:14:53,733
  1010. Yes, are you?
  1011. Because I know
  1012.  
  1013. 220
  1014. 00:14:53,735 --> 00:14:56,203
  1015. I've talked to you
  1016. about this before.
  1017.  
  1018. 221
  1019. 00:14:56,205 --> 00:14:59,740
  1020. You are losing
  1021. female readership, you know.
  1022.  
  1023. 222
  1024. 00:14:59,742 --> 00:15:01,407
  1025. And I think you might
  1026. want to focus more
  1027.  
  1028. 223
  1029. 00:15:01,409 --> 00:15:02,543
  1030. on what women read...
  1031.  
  1032. 224
  1033. 00:15:02,545 --> 00:15:05,515
  1034. Katharine, keep your finger
  1035. outta my eye.
  1036.  
  1037. 225
  1038. 00:15:12,388 --> 00:15:13,787
  1039. You...
  1040.  
  1041. 226
  1042. 00:15:16,725 --> 00:15:18,825
  1043. These breakfasts
  1044. were your idea, you know.
  1045.  
  1046. 227
  1047. 00:15:18,827 --> 00:15:22,396
  1048. Yes. And you are the publisher
  1049. and you are my boss.
  1050.  
  1051. 228
  1052. 00:15:22,398 --> 00:15:24,165
  1053. And I, uh...
  1054. I value the input,
  1055.  
  1056. 229
  1057. 00:15:24,167 --> 00:15:26,400
  1058. but I... I heard you
  1059. the first three times.
  1060.  
  1061. 230
  1062. 00:15:26,402 --> 00:15:29,203
  1063. You know, I just think
  1064. there might be another way...
  1065.  
  1066. 231
  1067. 00:15:29,205 --> 00:15:31,439
  1068. that we could cool it with
  1069. the White House.
  1070.  
  1071. 232
  1072. 00:15:31,441 --> 00:15:34,641
  1073. Maybe we could just send
  1074. somebody else, you know...
  1075.  
  1076. 233
  1077. 00:15:34,643 --> 00:15:37,310
  1078. Nope, nope. Nope. I'm not
  1079. gonna send another reporter.
  1080.  
  1081. 234
  1082. 00:15:37,312 --> 00:15:39,280
  1083. Because it's not
  1084. hard news, Ben.
  1085.  
  1086. 235
  1087. 00:15:39,282 --> 00:15:40,615
  1088. It's just a wedding.
  1089.  
  1090. 236
  1091. 00:15:40,617 --> 00:15:42,382
  1092. It's not just a wedding.
  1093.  
  1094. 237
  1095. 00:15:42,384 --> 00:15:43,450
  1096. It's a wedding of the daughter
  1097.  
  1098. 238
  1099. 00:15:43,452 --> 00:15:45,151
  1100. of the President
  1101. of the United States.
  1102.  
  1103. 239
  1104. 00:15:45,153 --> 00:15:46,686
  1105. Why not let that girl
  1106. have her day?
  1107.  
  1108. 240
  1109. 00:15:46,688 --> 00:15:48,322
  1110. And we can't have
  1111. an administration
  1112.  
  1113. 241
  1114. 00:15:48,324 --> 00:15:49,555
  1115. dictating to us
  1116. our coverage...
  1117.  
  1118. 242
  1119. 00:15:49,557 --> 00:15:50,790
  1120. just because they don't like
  1121.  
  1122. 243
  1123. 00:15:50,792 --> 00:15:53,696
  1124. what we print about them
  1125. in our newspaper.
  1126.  
  1127. 244
  1128. 00:15:58,167 --> 00:16:00,300
  1129. Wonder if Abe
  1130. cares so passionately
  1131.  
  1132. 245
  1133. 00:16:00,302 --> 00:16:02,402
  1134. about who covers
  1135. the wedding for his paper.
  1136.  
  1137. 246
  1138. 00:16:02,404 --> 00:16:04,405
  1139. I don't give a rat's ass
  1140. what Abe or anybody
  1141.  
  1142. 247
  1143. 00:16:04,407 --> 00:16:06,073
  1144. at The New York Times
  1145. cares about.
  1146.  
  1147. 248
  1148. 00:16:06,075 --> 00:16:07,607
  1149. Not true.
  1150. I give one rat's ass.
  1151.  
  1152. 249
  1153. 00:16:07,609 --> 00:16:09,676
  1154. - Yeah.
  1155. - One retromingent...
  1156.  
  1157. 250
  1158. 00:16:09,678 --> 00:16:11,513
  1159. rat's ass.
  1160.  
  1161. 251
  1162. 00:16:37,105 --> 00:16:38,372
  1163. Well, it's real important.
  1164.  
  1165. 252
  1166. 00:16:38,374 --> 00:16:40,774
  1167. Can you get him for me?
  1168.  
  1169. 253
  1170. 00:16:40,776 --> 00:16:44,147
  1171. Tell them it's from Sheehan.
  1172. Don't walk.
  1173.  
  1174. 254
  1175. 00:17:11,273 --> 00:17:12,641
  1176. It's from Sheehan.
  1177.  
  1178. 255
  1179. 00:17:19,515 --> 00:17:21,551
  1180. Abe, here it is.
  1181.  
  1182. 256
  1183. 00:17:38,434 --> 00:17:39,665
  1184. Okay,
  1185. Broder's got Nixon
  1186.  
  1187. 257
  1188. 00:17:39,667 --> 00:17:41,801
  1189. working on his second term.
  1190.  
  1191. 258
  1192. 00:17:41,803 --> 00:17:45,005
  1193. Osnos has something on G.I.s
  1194. buying heroin in Saigon...
  1195.  
  1196. 259
  1197. 00:17:45,007 --> 00:17:47,607
  1198. but Ryder's got
  1199. a rocket on the FBI list
  1200.  
  1201. 260
  1202. 00:17:47,609 --> 00:17:48,809
  1203. of potential subversives.
  1204.  
  1205. 261
  1206. 00:17:48,811 --> 00:17:50,377
  1207. Save it for the afternoon.
  1208.  
  1209. 262
  1210. 00:17:50,379 --> 00:17:52,479
  1211. I need Chal and Judith.
  1212.  
  1213. 263
  1214. 00:17:52,481 --> 00:17:53,780
  1215. Judith!
  1216.  
  1217. 264
  1218. 00:17:53,782 --> 00:17:55,982
  1219. Is that real,
  1220. the subversives list?
  1221.  
  1222. 265
  1223. 00:17:55,984 --> 00:17:58,319
  1224. Oh, yeah. Hoover
  1225. and Justice keep a copy.
  1226.  
  1227. 266
  1228. 00:17:58,321 --> 00:17:59,619
  1229. Thousands of names.
  1230.  
  1231. 267
  1232. 00:17:59,621 --> 00:18:01,288
  1233. Geyelin heard the White House
  1234. is shutting Judith out.
  1235.  
  1236. 268
  1237. 00:18:01,290 --> 00:18:02,356
  1238. Yeah, I'm working on that.
  1239.  
  1240. 269
  1241. 00:18:02,358 --> 00:18:03,723
  1242. We think editorial
  1243. should run something.
  1244.  
  1245. 270
  1246. 00:18:03,725 --> 00:18:05,358
  1247. I just heard somebody say
  1248. they're working on that.
  1249.  
  1250. 271
  1251. 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:06,426
  1252. Well, if the White House is
  1253.  
  1254. 272
  1255. 00:18:06,428 --> 00:18:07,528
  1256. gonna take
  1257. a stance like that...
  1258.  
  1259. 273
  1260. 00:18:07,530 --> 00:18:10,032
  1261. don't you think
  1262. we should plant a flag?
  1263.  
  1264. 274
  1265. 00:18:12,167 --> 00:18:16,203
  1266. Did you see Sheehan at the
  1267. Kissinger press conference?
  1268.  
  1269. 275
  1270. 00:18:16,205 --> 00:18:17,370
  1271. No.
  1272.  
  1273. 276
  1274. 00:18:17,372 --> 00:18:19,139
  1275. What about the Al Haig thing?
  1276.  
  1277. 277
  1278. 00:18:19,141 --> 00:18:21,143
  1279. No, Times sent the new kid.
  1280.  
  1281. 278
  1282. 00:18:21,878 --> 00:18:23,310
  1283. The new kid, huh?
  1284.  
  1285. 279
  1286. 00:18:23,312 --> 00:18:25,378
  1287. You think Sheehan's
  1288. onto something.
  1289.  
  1290. 280
  1291. 00:18:25,380 --> 00:18:26,946
  1292. Yeah.
  1293.  
  1294. 281
  1295. 00:18:26,948 --> 00:18:29,482
  1296. Well, Neil has been known
  1297. to disappear.
  1298.  
  1299. 282
  1300. 00:18:29,484 --> 00:18:32,351
  1301. No, no. I'm telling you,
  1302. he has something.
  1303.  
  1304. 283
  1305. 00:18:32,353 --> 00:18:34,555
  1306. You want me to do
  1307. a little digging?
  1308.  
  1309. 284
  1310. 00:18:34,557 --> 00:18:37,223
  1311. No, that's below
  1312. your pay grade.
  1313.  
  1314. 285
  1315. 00:18:37,225 --> 00:18:38,561
  1316. Intern!
  1317.  
  1318. 286
  1319. 00:18:39,527 --> 00:18:42,229
  1320. You working on anything
  1321. important, chief?
  1322.  
  1323. 287
  1324. 00:18:42,231 --> 00:18:44,632
  1325. Uh, no, Mr. Bradlee.
  1326.  
  1327. 288
  1328. 00:18:44,634 --> 00:18:47,167
  1329. Well, everything we do
  1330. is important at The Post.
  1331.  
  1332. 289
  1333. 00:18:47,169 --> 00:18:48,569
  1334. Yeah. That's $40.
  1335.  
  1336. 290
  1337. 00:18:48,571 --> 00:18:51,638
  1338. I want you to take the
  1339. first train up to New York...
  1340.  
  1341. 291
  1342. 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,441
  1343. and go to
  1344. The Times building on 43rd.
  1345.  
  1346. 292
  1347. 00:18:53,443 --> 00:18:54,642
  1348. Don't tell them
  1349. who you work for...
  1350.  
  1351. 293
  1352. 00:18:54,644 --> 00:18:57,310
  1353. but find a reporter
  1354. by the name of Sheehan.
  1355.  
  1356. 294
  1357. 00:18:57,312 --> 00:18:58,878
  1358. Uh, Neil Sheehan?
  1359.  
  1360. 295
  1361. 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:03,519
  1362. Yeah, yeah, find out what
  1363. Neil Sheehan is working on.
  1364.  
  1365. 296
  1366. 00:19:04,286 --> 00:19:06,118
  1367. Is that legal?
  1368.  
  1369. 297
  1370. 00:19:06,120 --> 00:19:09,790
  1371. Well, what is it you think we
  1372. do here for a living, kid?
  1373.  
  1374. 298
  1375. 00:19:09,792 --> 00:19:11,290
  1376. Get a receipt for the tickets.
  1377.  
  1378. 299
  1379. 00:19:11,292 --> 00:19:12,294
  1380. Yeah.
  1381.  
  1382. 300
  1383. 00:19:28,510 --> 00:19:30,980
  1384. - Morning, Mrs. Graham.
  1385. - Hello, morning.
  1386.  
  1387. 301
  1388. 00:19:34,650 --> 00:19:36,716
  1389. Hello.
  1390. Morning, everybody.
  1391.  
  1392. 302
  1393. 00:19:36,718 --> 00:19:38,051
  1394. - Hi, Oz.
  1395. - Mrs. Graham.
  1396.  
  1397. 303
  1398. 00:19:38,053 --> 00:19:39,288
  1399. Morning, Arthur.
  1400.  
  1401. 304
  1402. 00:19:40,589 --> 00:19:42,191
  1403. Hello. Hello, everyone.
  1404.  
  1405. 305
  1406. 00:19:44,726 --> 00:19:46,594
  1407. So, everyone's here.
  1408.  
  1409. 306
  1410. 00:19:46,596 --> 00:19:49,363
  1411. - Hello, Ray. My Galahad.
  1412. - Good morning.
  1413.  
  1414. 307
  1415. 00:19:49,365 --> 00:19:50,900
  1416. Thank you.
  1417.  
  1418. 308
  1419. 00:20:02,211 --> 00:20:03,543
  1420. And I used to be the only one
  1421.  
  1422. 309
  1423. 00:20:03,545 --> 00:20:05,479
  1424. who brought
  1425. his homework to class.
  1426.  
  1427. 310
  1428. 00:20:07,750 --> 00:20:10,550
  1429. I think we're all here.
  1430. Should we get started?
  1431.  
  1432. 311
  1433. 00:20:10,552 --> 00:20:11,952
  1434. Didn't you crash the wedding
  1435.  
  1436. 312
  1437. 00:20:11,954 --> 00:20:14,253
  1438. of Nixon's other daughter
  1439. to get a story?
  1440.  
  1441. 313
  1442. 00:20:14,255 --> 00:20:17,057
  1443. Well, I did get a story but I
  1444. didn't crash Julie's wedding.
  1445.  
  1446. 314
  1447. 00:20:17,059 --> 00:20:19,126
  1448. No, just the reception
  1449. afterwards, right?
  1450.  
  1451. 315
  1452. 00:20:19,128 --> 00:20:20,359
  1453. There is a distinction.
  1454.  
  1455. 316
  1456. 00:20:20,361 --> 00:20:21,462
  1457. Not to
  1458. the father of the bride.
  1459.  
  1460. 317
  1461. 00:20:21,464 --> 00:20:22,762
  1462. He's paying per plate.
  1463.  
  1464. 318
  1465. 00:20:22,764 --> 00:20:24,531
  1466. I think the American people
  1467. are paying per plate.
  1468.  
  1469. 319
  1470. 00:20:24,533 --> 00:20:26,066
  1471. Wait, let's do
  1472. a story about that.
  1473.  
  1474. 320
  1475. 00:20:26,068 --> 00:20:28,502
  1476. - Yeah, let's...
  1477. - Judith should crash again.
  1478.  
  1479. 321
  1480. 00:20:28,504 --> 00:20:29,735
  1481. I didn't crash
  1482. Julie's wedding.
  1483.  
  1484. 322
  1485. 00:20:29,737 --> 00:20:31,038
  1486. What would you
  1487. call it, Judith?
  1488.  
  1489. 323
  1490. 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:32,873
  1491. Well, I would call it
  1492. deft reportage.
  1493.  
  1494. 324
  1495. 00:20:32,875 --> 00:20:34,508
  1496. All right, come on,
  1497. come on, everybody.
  1498.  
  1499. 325
  1500. 00:20:34,510 --> 00:20:37,647
  1501. How are we gonna cover
  1502. this Nixon-Cox wedding?
  1503.  
  1504. 326
  1505. 00:20:41,984 --> 00:20:43,951
  1506. Uh... Who else
  1507. is gonna be there?
  1508.  
  1509. 327
  1510. 00:20:43,953 --> 00:20:45,417
  1511. - Here.
  1512. - Judith's got the guest list.
  1513.  
  1514. 328
  1515. 00:20:45,419 --> 00:20:47,287
  1516. No, I mean of
  1517. the other press.
  1518.  
  1519. 329
  1520. 00:20:47,289 --> 00:20:50,290
  1521. The Times, the Sun, the Globe,
  1522. all the international papers.
  1523.  
  1524. 330
  1525. 00:20:50,292 --> 00:20:51,957
  1526. All right.
  1527.  
  1528. 331
  1529. 00:20:51,959 --> 00:20:55,631
  1530. So, we call them,
  1531. we call all of them...
  1532.  
  1533. 332
  1534. 00:20:56,564 --> 00:20:59,466
  1535. and we say Nixon
  1536. has shut us out...
  1537.  
  1538. 333
  1539. 00:20:59,468 --> 00:21:02,167
  1540. and then we ask them
  1541. for their notes.
  1542.  
  1543. 334
  1544. 00:21:02,169 --> 00:21:04,570
  1545. Ben, there's no way in hell
  1546. anyone's gonna give me a fill.
  1547.  
  1548. 335
  1549. 00:21:04,572 --> 00:21:07,508
  1550. No, it'll be
  1551. an act of solidarity.
  1552.  
  1553. 336
  1554. 00:21:07,510 --> 00:21:10,010
  1555. They'll be defending
  1556. the First Amendment.
  1557.  
  1558. 337
  1559. 00:21:10,012 --> 00:21:11,845
  1560. We'll tell them
  1561. that the only way
  1562.  
  1563. 338
  1564. 00:21:11,847 --> 00:21:13,780
  1565. to protect
  1566. the right to publish...
  1567.  
  1568. 339
  1569. 00:21:13,782 --> 00:21:15,984
  1570. is to publish.
  1571.  
  1572. 340
  1573. 00:21:21,189 --> 00:21:22,490
  1574. I don't understand.
  1575.  
  1576. 341
  1577. 00:21:22,492 --> 00:21:25,291
  1578. You said
  1579. we'd set the price at $27.
  1580.  
  1581. 342
  1582. 00:21:25,293 --> 00:21:26,859
  1583. No, we said there was a range.
  1584.  
  1585. 343
  1586. 00:21:26,861 --> 00:21:29,629
  1587. And the demand on the
  1588. road show was soft.
  1589.  
  1590. 344
  1591. 00:21:29,631 --> 00:21:32,765
  1592. Why not set it at $26?
  1593. Or $25 even?
  1594.  
  1595. 345
  1596. 00:21:32,767 --> 00:21:34,667
  1597. Well, Paul, we feel
  1598. that setting the price
  1599.  
  1600. 346
  1601. 00:21:34,669 --> 00:21:36,736
  1602. at $24.50 would be
  1603. more prudent.
  1604.  
  1605. 347
  1606. 00:21:36,738 --> 00:21:38,172
  1607. It's just a couple bucks.
  1608.  
  1609. 348
  1610. 00:21:38,174 --> 00:21:40,040
  1611. It's not just
  1612. a couple of bucks.
  1613.  
  1614. 349
  1615. 00:21:40,042 --> 00:21:42,811
  1616. It's 1.35 million shares...
  1617.  
  1618. 350
  1619. 00:21:43,212 --> 00:21:44,981
  1620. so it is...
  1621.  
  1622. 351
  1623. 00:21:46,448 --> 00:21:48,281
  1624. Three million.
  1625.  
  1626. 352
  1627. 00:21:48,283 --> 00:21:52,653
  1628. Over $3 million less.
  1629. That's a lot to a newspaper.
  1630.  
  1631. 353
  1632. 00:21:52,655 --> 00:21:54,553
  1633. How many reporters is that?
  1634.  
  1635. 354
  1636. 00:21:54,555 --> 00:21:55,655
  1637. It's 25.
  1638.  
  1639. 355
  1640. 00:21:55,657 --> 00:21:57,023
  1641. Let's not get bogged down.
  1642.  
  1643. 356
  1644. 00:21:57,025 --> 00:21:58,459
  1645. It has to be quite a few.
  1646.  
  1647. 357
  1648. 00:21:58,461 --> 00:22:00,063
  1649. At least a dozen. Fritz?
  1650.  
  1651. 358
  1652. 00:22:01,630 --> 00:22:03,262
  1653. It's 25 reporters.
  1654.  
  1655. 359
  1656. 00:22:03,264 --> 00:22:05,432
  1657. Twenty-five reporters.
  1658.  
  1659. 360
  1660. 00:22:05,434 --> 00:22:06,700
  1661. Twenty-five reporters.
  1662.  
  1663. 361
  1664. 00:22:06,702 --> 00:22:08,835
  1665. Gentlemen,
  1666. we know it's not ideal...
  1667.  
  1668. 362
  1669. 00:22:08,837 --> 00:22:10,171
  1670. but a few of our investors
  1671.  
  1672. 363
  1673. 00:22:10,173 --> 00:22:13,473
  1674. balked at the nature
  1675. of the company.
  1676.  
  1677. 364
  1678. 00:22:13,475 --> 00:22:14,707
  1679. They don't like newspapers?
  1680.  
  1681. 365
  1682. 00:22:14,709 --> 00:22:17,478
  1683. They like Gannett and
  1684. Knight and Ridder...
  1685.  
  1686. 366
  1687. 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:18,678
  1688. but frankly they're concerned
  1689.  
  1690. 367
  1691. 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,283
  1692. about your ability
  1693. to turn a serious profit.
  1694.  
  1695. 368
  1696. 00:22:34,963 --> 00:22:36,296
  1697. Gannett and Knight and Ridder
  1698.  
  1699. 369
  1700. 00:22:36,298 --> 00:22:38,197
  1701. own monopoly papers
  1702. in smaller markets.
  1703.  
  1704. 370
  1705. 00:22:38,199 --> 00:22:40,434
  1706. That's why
  1707. they're more profitable.
  1708.  
  1709. 371
  1710. 00:22:40,436 --> 00:22:43,671
  1711. The whole point of the
  1712. offering is to grow...
  1713.  
  1714. 372
  1715. 00:22:43,673 --> 00:22:45,839
  1716. while investing in the quality
  1717. of the paper.
  1718.  
  1719. 373
  1720. 00:22:45,841 --> 00:22:49,209
  1721. Kay and I have talked
  1722. a great deal about this...
  1723.  
  1724. 374
  1725. 00:22:49,211 --> 00:22:52,212
  1726. and we believe
  1727. that improving quality...
  1728.  
  1729. 375
  1730. 00:22:52,214 --> 00:22:55,851
  1731. will naturally lead to
  1732. greater profitability.
  1733.  
  1734. 376
  1735. 00:22:57,619 --> 00:22:58,851
  1736. Unfortunate.
  1737.  
  1738. 377
  1739. 00:22:58,853 --> 00:23:00,854
  1740. It's more than unfortunate.
  1741.  
  1742. 378
  1743. 00:23:00,856 --> 00:23:02,623
  1744. Doesn't this happen
  1745. all the time?
  1746.  
  1747. 379
  1748. 00:23:02,625 --> 00:23:05,893
  1749. Bankers lowering the price for
  1750. their institutional investors.
  1751.  
  1752. 380
  1753. 00:23:05,895 --> 00:23:07,560
  1754. Fritz, isn't this
  1755. what we discussed?
  1756.  
  1757. 381
  1758. 00:23:07,562 --> 00:23:08,728
  1759. I think the family
  1760. should consider
  1761.  
  1762. 382
  1763. 00:23:08,730 --> 00:23:09,896
  1764. giving up some control.
  1765.  
  1766. 383
  1767. 00:23:09,898 --> 00:23:12,098
  1768. - Maybe another board seat.
  1769. - Absolutely not.
  1770.  
  1771. 384
  1772. 00:23:12,100 --> 00:23:14,601
  1773. This isn't a surprise, Fritz.
  1774. Ever since Phil's accident...
  1775.  
  1776. 385
  1777. 00:23:14,603 --> 00:23:15,735
  1778. Arthur.
  1779.  
  1780. 386
  1781. 00:23:15,737 --> 00:23:18,203
  1782. No offense, Kay.
  1783. It's unfortunate...
  1784.  
  1785. 387
  1786. 00:23:18,205 --> 00:23:19,906
  1787. but the buyers
  1788. are obviously skittish
  1789.  
  1790. 388
  1791. 00:23:19,908 --> 00:23:21,340
  1792. about having
  1793. a woman in charge...
  1794.  
  1795. 389
  1796. 00:23:21,342 --> 00:23:23,543
  1797. and it's not like
  1798. it's an easy sell.
  1799.  
  1800. 390
  1801. 00:23:23,545 --> 00:23:26,680
  1802. It's a local paper with modest
  1803. margins, modest ambitions.
  1804.  
  1805. 391
  1806. 00:23:26,682 --> 00:23:28,115
  1807. I think Mr. Bradlee
  1808. would take issue
  1809.  
  1810. 392
  1811. 00:23:28,117 --> 00:23:29,383
  1812. with that characterization.
  1813.  
  1814. 393
  1815. 00:23:29,385 --> 00:23:31,350
  1816. Sure, she pads
  1817. his budget every year.
  1818.  
  1819. 394
  1820. 00:23:31,352 --> 00:23:33,119
  1821. Call my office.
  1822. Tell them I'm going to
  1823.  
  1824. 395
  1825. 00:23:33,121 --> 00:23:35,021
  1826. miss my lunch at Occidental.
  1827.  
  1828. 396
  1829. 00:23:35,023 --> 00:23:36,924
  1830. Another dozen reporters.
  1831. For what?
  1832.  
  1833. 397
  1834. 00:23:36,926 --> 00:23:38,692
  1835. To nip at the heels
  1836. of The Times?
  1837.  
  1838. 398
  1839. 00:23:38,694 --> 00:23:39,858
  1840. So we can pretend like
  1841.  
  1842. 399
  1843. 00:23:39,860 --> 00:23:41,861
  1844. we're even remotely
  1845. in the same league?
  1846.  
  1847. 400
  1848. 00:23:41,863 --> 00:23:44,231
  1849. Make it a five o'clock drink
  1850. at the Jefferson.
  1851.  
  1852. 401
  1853. 00:23:44,233 --> 00:23:46,332
  1854. Arthur, Kay was right.
  1855. Lazard is just trying...
  1856.  
  1857. 402
  1858. 00:23:46,334 --> 00:23:47,599
  1859. to cut a better deal
  1860. by squeezing us.
  1861.  
  1862. 403
  1863. 00:23:47,601 --> 00:23:48,768
  1864. Come on, Fritz.
  1865.  
  1866. 404
  1867. 00:23:48,770 --> 00:23:49,836
  1868. Why do you think that is?
  1869.  
  1870. 405
  1871. 00:23:49,838 --> 00:23:51,038
  1872. Because they're bankers.
  1873.  
  1874. 406
  1875. 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,606
  1876. Which is why
  1877. they want more control.
  1878.  
  1879. 407
  1880. 00:23:52,608 --> 00:23:53,740
  1881. They want assurances
  1882.  
  1883. 408
  1884. 00:23:53,742 --> 00:23:54,875
  1885. that she's not
  1886. gonna squander it all.
  1887.  
  1888. 409
  1889. 00:23:54,877 --> 00:23:56,643
  1890. I mean, come on.
  1891.  
  1892. 410
  1893. 00:23:56,645 --> 00:23:59,044
  1894. Fritz, Kay throws
  1895. a great party...
  1896.  
  1897. 411
  1898. 00:23:59,046 --> 00:24:01,882
  1899. but her father gave the paper
  1900. to her husband.
  1901.  
  1902. 412
  1903. 00:24:01,884 --> 00:24:03,617
  1904. The only reason
  1905. she's running things
  1906.  
  1907. 413
  1908. 00:24:03,619 --> 00:24:05,987
  1909. is because he...
  1910. Because Phil died.
  1911.  
  1912. 414
  1913. 00:24:07,189 --> 00:24:10,957
  1914. Don't get me wrong,
  1915. I think she is a lovely woman.
  1916.  
  1917. 415
  1918. 00:24:10,959 --> 00:24:12,826
  1919. But she got rid
  1920. of Al Friendly...
  1921.  
  1922. 416
  1923. 00:24:12,828 --> 00:24:14,293
  1924. and brought in a pirate
  1925.  
  1926. 417
  1927. 00:24:14,295 --> 00:24:16,963
  1928. who does nothing
  1929. but bleed our margins.
  1930.  
  1931. 418
  1932. 00:24:16,965 --> 00:24:18,632
  1933. I mean, you can't be surprised
  1934.  
  1935. 419
  1936. 00:24:18,634 --> 00:24:19,866
  1937. that the buyers
  1938. are concerned...
  1939.  
  1940. 420
  1941. 00:24:19,868 --> 00:24:21,100
  1942. that she doesn't have
  1943. the resolve
  1944.  
  1945. 421
  1946. 00:24:21,102 --> 00:24:23,071
  1947. to turn a serious profit.
  1948.  
  1949. 422
  1950. 00:24:28,476 --> 00:24:30,844
  1951. Kay, it's your decision...
  1952.  
  1953. 423
  1954. 00:24:30,846 --> 00:24:32,979
  1955. but in my opinion,
  1956. if you want this
  1957.  
  1958. 424
  1959. 00:24:32,981 --> 00:24:35,249
  1960. to be more than
  1961. a little family paper...
  1962.  
  1963. 425
  1964. 00:24:35,251 --> 00:24:38,521
  1965. it has to be more than
  1966. a little family business.
  1967.  
  1968. 426
  1969. 00:24:41,690 --> 00:24:44,427
  1970. Thank you, Arthur,
  1971. for your frankness.
  1972.  
  1973. 427
  1974. 00:24:45,660 --> 00:24:47,028
  1975. All right.
  1976.  
  1977. 428
  1978. 00:24:48,296 --> 00:24:49,396
  1979. We're set?
  1980.  
  1981. 429
  1982. 00:24:49,398 --> 00:24:51,367
  1983. All set, Mr. Parsons.
  1984.  
  1985. 430
  1986. 00:24:53,769 --> 00:24:55,304
  1987. Accident...
  1988.  
  1989. 431
  1990. 00:24:58,506 --> 00:25:00,243
  1991. It wasn't an accident.
  1992.  
  1993. 432
  1994. 00:25:01,342 --> 00:25:02,575
  1995. Phil's suicide.
  1996.  
  1997. 433
  1998. 00:25:02,577 --> 00:25:06,949
  1999. I don't know why people insist
  2000. on calling it an accident.
  2001.  
  2002. 434
  2003. 00:25:08,116 --> 00:25:10,653
  2004. Is it to make them
  2005. feel better?
  2006.  
  2007. 435
  2008. 00:25:11,754 --> 00:25:14,954
  2009. Or do they think
  2010. they're being kind?
  2011.  
  2012. 436
  2013. 00:25:14,956 --> 00:25:17,158
  2014. I don't know, I don't know.
  2015.  
  2016. 437
  2017. 00:25:17,859 --> 00:25:20,027
  2018. So, do you think I should
  2019.  
  2020. 438
  2021. 00:25:20,029 --> 00:25:22,662
  2022. give up more seats
  2023. on the board?
  2024.  
  2025. 439
  2026. 00:25:22,664 --> 00:25:24,532
  2027. Of course not.
  2028.  
  2029. 440
  2030. 00:25:25,966 --> 00:25:28,234
  2031. We're going to be fine.
  2032.  
  2033. 441
  2034. 00:25:28,236 --> 00:25:29,703
  2035. Hmm.
  2036.  
  2037. 442
  2038. 00:25:29,705 --> 00:25:32,606
  2039. This passage
  2040. in the prospectus,
  2041.  
  2042. 443
  2043. 00:25:32,608 --> 00:25:35,244
  2044. I read it earlier today.
  2045.  
  2046. 444
  2047. 00:25:38,914 --> 00:25:41,514
  2048. Oh, yes.
  2049.  
  2050. 445
  2051. 00:25:41,516 --> 00:25:43,716
  2052. "In the unlikely instance
  2053. of disaster
  2054.  
  2055. 446
  2056. 00:25:43,718 --> 00:25:45,050
  2057. "or catastrophic event...
  2058.  
  2059. 447
  2060. 00:25:45,052 --> 00:25:48,988
  2061. "in the week following the
  2062. initial public offering...
  2063.  
  2064. 448
  2065. 00:25:48,990 --> 00:25:50,924
  2066. "Lazard Frères
  2067. and Company retains
  2068.  
  2069. 449
  2070. 00:25:50,926 --> 00:25:52,925
  2071. "full right
  2072. to cancel the issue."
  2073.  
  2074. 450
  2075. 00:25:52,927 --> 00:25:54,461
  2076. It's boilerplate, Kay.
  2077.  
  2078. 451
  2079. 00:25:54,463 --> 00:25:56,896
  2080. It's standard
  2081. contractual language.
  2082.  
  2083. 452
  2084. 00:25:58,134 --> 00:26:02,301
  2085. But, so, the bankers
  2086. could pull out.
  2087.  
  2088. 453
  2089. 00:26:02,303 --> 00:26:05,104
  2090. Only if there's
  2091. a true disaster.
  2092.  
  2093. 454
  2094. 00:26:05,106 --> 00:26:07,241
  2095. Ben gets hit by a truck...
  2096.  
  2097. 455
  2098. 00:26:07,243 --> 00:26:11,277
  2099. the world
  2100. runs outta newspaper ink...
  2101.  
  2102. 456
  2103. 00:26:12,580 --> 00:26:14,181
  2104. the truck goes
  2105. around the block
  2106.  
  2107. 457
  2108. 00:26:14,183 --> 00:26:16,416
  2109. and hits Ben again...
  2110.  
  2111. 458
  2112. 00:26:16,418 --> 00:26:18,085
  2113. You think
  2114. one of those is possible.
  2115.  
  2116. 459
  2117. 00:26:18,087 --> 00:26:19,953
  2118. No, I don't...
  2119.  
  2120. 460
  2121. 00:26:19,955 --> 00:26:21,854
  2122. but, you know,
  2123. the Nixon White House
  2124.  
  2125. 461
  2126. 00:26:21,856 --> 00:26:23,790
  2127. is nothing if not vindictive.
  2128.  
  2129. 462
  2130. 00:26:23,792 --> 00:26:25,157
  2131. Just this morning...
  2132.  
  2133. 463
  2134. 00:26:25,159 --> 00:26:28,063
  2135. they barred us from covering
  2136. Tricia Nixon's wedding.
  2137.  
  2138. 464
  2139. 00:26:28,763 --> 00:26:30,563
  2140. Somehow,
  2141. I doubt that will rise
  2142.  
  2143. 465
  2144. 00:26:30,565 --> 00:26:32,031
  2145. to the level of catastrophe.
  2146.  
  2147. 466
  2148. 00:26:32,033 --> 00:26:33,599
  2149. I know. Probably not.
  2150.  
  2151. 467
  2152. 00:26:33,601 --> 00:26:37,171
  2153. Although, when Ben sets
  2154. his mind to plunder...
  2155.  
  2156. 468
  2157. 00:26:37,173 --> 00:26:40,743
  2158. it's not hard to imagine
  2159. something more serious.
  2160.  
  2161. 469
  2162. 00:26:42,244 --> 00:26:44,480
  2163. Catastrophic events...
  2164.  
  2165. 470
  2166. 00:26:45,781 --> 00:26:47,280
  2167. do occur, you know.
  2168.  
  2169. 471
  2170. 00:26:47,282 --> 00:26:51,350
  2171. Yeah, but the right to cancel
  2172. is only for a week.
  2173.  
  2174. 472
  2175. 00:26:51,352 --> 00:26:54,587
  2176. A week
  2177. from the public offering.
  2178.  
  2179. 473
  2180. 00:26:54,589 --> 00:26:58,491
  2181. Seven days after they
  2182. ring that bell on Tuesday...
  2183.  
  2184. 474
  2185. 00:26:58,493 --> 00:27:00,426
  2186. the deal is done.
  2187.  
  2188. 475
  2189. 00:27:00,428 --> 00:27:01,429
  2190. Hmm.
  2191.  
  2192. 476
  2193. 00:27:02,898 --> 00:27:05,134
  2194. It's gonna be fine, Kay.
  2195.  
  2196. 477
  2197. 00:27:23,718 --> 00:27:25,086
  2198. Jesus.
  2199.  
  2200. 478
  2201. 00:27:31,592 --> 00:27:33,763
  2202. Do you know what floor
  2203. the newsroom's on?
  2204.  
  2205. 479
  2206. 00:27:34,263 --> 00:27:35,395
  2207. Five.
  2208.  
  2209. 480
  2210. 00:27:35,397 --> 00:27:37,700
  2211. Uh, no, no, six, yeah. Six.
  2212.  
  2213. 481
  2214. 00:27:51,946 --> 00:27:53,946
  2215. Things are heating up
  2216. in East Pakistan?
  2217.  
  2218. 482
  2219. 00:27:53,948 --> 00:27:55,815
  2220. Well,
  2221. five million refugees
  2222.  
  2223. 483
  2224. 00:27:55,817 --> 00:27:57,951
  2225. could destabilize West Bengal.
  2226.  
  2227. 484
  2228. 00:27:57,953 --> 00:28:00,020
  2229. So, Lindsay's lowering
  2230. the boom tomorrow.
  2231.  
  2232. 485
  2233. 00:28:00,022 --> 00:28:01,654
  2234. They gotta cut 100 million.
  2235.  
  2236. 486
  2237. 00:28:01,656 --> 00:28:04,460
  2238. Gonna be some blood on
  2239. the floor of Gracie Mansion.
  2240.  
  2241. 487
  2242. 00:28:06,494 --> 00:28:08,761
  2243. I heard the Mayors gave it to
  2244. Nixon in Philly.
  2245.  
  2246. 488
  2247. 00:28:08,763 --> 00:28:10,664
  2248. Yeah, Tolchin's down there.
  2249. He's filing.
  2250.  
  2251. 489
  2252. 00:28:10,666 --> 00:28:12,132
  2253. Take a look at this.
  2254.  
  2255. 490
  2256. 00:28:12,134 --> 00:28:13,966
  2257. Any of you guys see that piece
  2258. on the hijacking?
  2259.  
  2260. 491
  2261. 00:28:13,968 --> 00:28:15,100
  2262. Jeez, there's been
  2263. another hijacking?
  2264.  
  2265. 492
  2266. 00:28:15,102 --> 00:28:16,603
  2267. You think six pages
  2268. is enough?
  2269.  
  2270. 493
  2271. 00:28:16,605 --> 00:28:19,905
  2272. Well, we got three columns on
  2273. the front page. I'll take it.
  2274.  
  2275. 494
  2276. 00:28:19,907 --> 00:28:22,075
  2277. - On the flight?
  2278. - On the flight.
  2279.  
  2280. 495
  2281. 00:28:22,077 --> 00:28:24,277
  2282. Can I help you, Mac?
  2283.  
  2284. 496
  2285. 00:28:24,279 --> 00:28:26,578
  2286. Just delivering a package
  2287. to Mr. Meetson.
  2288.  
  2289. 497
  2290. 00:28:26,580 --> 00:28:29,084
  2291. Mattson.
  2292. I'll see that he gets it.
  2293.  
  2294. 498
  2295. 00:28:30,285 --> 00:28:31,818
  2296. I knew a couple
  2297.  
  2298. 499
  2299. 00:28:31,820 --> 00:28:35,254
  2300. whose yacht was shipwrecked
  2301. in the South Pacific.
  2302.  
  2303. 500
  2304. 00:28:35,256 --> 00:28:37,101
  2305. Hold on, quiet.
  2306.  
  2307. 501
  2308. 00:28:37,125 --> 00:28:38,392
  2309. I knew a couple whose yacht
  2310.  
  2311. 502
  2312. 00:28:38,394 --> 00:28:40,359
  2313. was shipwrecked
  2314. in the South Pacific.
  2315.  
  2316. 503
  2317. 00:28:40,361 --> 00:28:42,762
  2318. It looks bleak,
  2319. so the man asks...
  2320.  
  2321. 504
  2322. 00:28:42,764 --> 00:28:46,133
  2323. "Does the will take care
  2324. of the kids?" His wife nods.
  2325.  
  2326. 505
  2327. 00:28:46,135 --> 00:28:48,502
  2328. "What about your mother?"
  2329. "Yes."
  2330.  
  2331. 506
  2332. 00:28:48,504 --> 00:28:52,071
  2333. "Okay, did we
  2334. donate to Nixon?"
  2335.  
  2336. 507
  2337. 00:28:52,073 --> 00:28:54,874
  2338. His wife
  2339. shakes her head. "Yes."
  2340.  
  2341. 508
  2342. 00:28:54,876 --> 00:28:57,478
  2343. "Did we pledge or give?"
  2344.  
  2345. 509
  2346. 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,610
  2347. "We pledged."
  2348.  
  2349. 510
  2350. 00:28:58,612 --> 00:29:00,813
  2351. "Thank God," shouts the man.
  2352. "Nixon'll find us.
  2353.  
  2354. 511
  2355. 00:29:00,815 --> 00:29:01,915
  2356. "We're saved!"
  2357.  
  2358. 512
  2359. 00:29:05,987 --> 00:29:08,620
  2360. Well, speaking of Nixon,
  2361. I just talked to Kissinger...
  2362.  
  2363. 513
  2364. 00:29:08,622 --> 00:29:11,457
  2365. who was going on about the end
  2366. of the China embargo.
  2367.  
  2368. 514
  2369. 00:29:11,459 --> 00:29:14,194
  2370. He's convinced it's a rather
  2371. clever geopolitical move.
  2372.  
  2373. 515
  2374. 00:29:14,196 --> 00:29:17,297
  2375. I think
  2376. this is our cue, ladies.
  2377.  
  2378. 516
  2379. 00:29:17,299 --> 00:29:19,132
  2380. Someone at this table
  2381. of luminaries
  2382.  
  2383. 517
  2384. 00:29:19,134 --> 00:29:20,666
  2385. must have an idea
  2386. what they're up to.
  2387.  
  2388. 518
  2389. 00:29:20,668 --> 00:29:23,069
  2390. I wonder what his buddy
  2391. Joe McCarthy would say.
  2392.  
  2393. 519
  2394. 00:29:23,071 --> 00:29:25,571
  2395. The New Style Section
  2396. did a lovely piece
  2397.  
  2398. 520
  2399. 00:29:25,573 --> 00:29:27,007
  2400. on Lawrence Durrell.
  2401.  
  2402. 521
  2403. 00:29:27,009 --> 00:29:29,509
  2404. It's about time
  2405. Style had a good piece.
  2406.  
  2407. 522
  2408. 00:29:29,511 --> 00:29:31,144
  2409. I think it's a bit improved.
  2410.  
  2411. 523
  2412. 00:29:31,146 --> 00:29:33,546
  2413. I hear he's at work on
  2414. another series of novels.
  2415.  
  2416. 524
  2417. 00:29:33,548 --> 00:29:36,683
  2418. I hear he's at work on finding
  2419. a fourth wife.
  2420.  
  2421. 525
  2422. 00:29:36,685 --> 00:29:38,351
  2423. I will say, he's
  2424. one of the few individuals...
  2425.  
  2426. 526
  2427. 00:29:38,353 --> 00:29:40,253
  2428. who could probably cozy up
  2429. to communist China...
  2430.  
  2431. 527
  2432. 00:29:40,255 --> 00:29:42,121
  2433. without fear
  2434. of major political cost.
  2435.  
  2436. 528
  2437. 00:29:42,123 --> 00:29:43,388
  2438. Eh, but is Nixon that smart?
  2439.  
  2440. 529
  2441. 00:29:43,390 --> 00:29:44,991
  2442. He never laughed
  2443. at one of my jokes.
  2444.  
  2445. 530
  2446. 00:29:47,096 --> 00:29:49,195
  2447. Oh, Kay, I don't know
  2448. how you do it.
  2449.  
  2450. 531
  2451. 00:29:49,197 --> 00:29:50,963
  2452. I don't know
  2453. how you keep up with it all
  2454.  
  2455. 532
  2456. 00:29:50,965 --> 00:29:53,032
  2457. when you have this day job.
  2458.  
  2459. 533
  2460. 00:29:54,136 --> 00:29:55,801
  2461. You need to read more books.
  2462.  
  2463. 534
  2464. 00:29:55,803 --> 00:29:58,637
  2465. Kay, could I have just a word?
  2466.  
  2467. 535
  2468. 00:30:00,876 --> 00:30:01,911
  2469. Um...
  2470.  
  2471. 536
  2472. 00:30:03,311 --> 00:30:04,944
  2473. Everything all right?
  2474.  
  2475. 537
  2476. 00:30:04,946 --> 00:30:06,980
  2477. - Marg okay?
  2478. - Yes, she's fine.
  2479.  
  2480. 538
  2481. 00:30:06,982 --> 00:30:08,748
  2482. Said the procedure
  2483. went very well.
  2484.  
  2485. 539
  2486. 00:30:08,750 --> 00:30:10,584
  2487. Oh, good,
  2488. I've been meaning to...
  2489.  
  2490. 540
  2491. 00:30:10,586 --> 00:30:11,654
  2492. I...
  2493.  
  2494. 541
  2495. 00:30:12,219 --> 00:30:13,386
  2496. I wanted to tell you,
  2497.  
  2498. 542
  2499. 00:30:13,388 --> 00:30:15,288
  2500. and I want you
  2501. to hear from me first...
  2502.  
  2503. 543
  2504. 00:30:15,290 --> 00:30:17,290
  2505. there's an article about me
  2506.  
  2507. 544
  2508. 00:30:17,292 --> 00:30:19,928
  2509. coming out
  2510. in The Times tomorrow.
  2511.  
  2512. 545
  2513. 00:30:21,062 --> 00:30:22,797
  2514. It's not flattering.
  2515.  
  2516. 546
  2517. 00:30:24,099 --> 00:30:25,632
  2518. Running? Me?
  2519.  
  2520. 547
  2521. 00:30:25,634 --> 00:30:27,599
  2522. Now, you know me
  2523. better than that.
  2524.  
  2525. 548
  2526. 00:30:27,601 --> 00:30:29,469
  2527. Three days and three
  2528. nights and not a word.
  2529.  
  2530. 549
  2531. 00:30:29,471 --> 00:30:30,636
  2532. Well, I've been very busy.
  2533.  
  2534. 550
  2535. 00:30:30,638 --> 00:30:31,905
  2536. For all I knew
  2537. you were lying
  2538.  
  2539. 551
  2540. 00:30:31,907 --> 00:30:33,005
  2541. in the gutter somewhere...
  2542.  
  2543. 552
  2544. 00:30:33,007 --> 00:30:34,440
  2545. with a knife in your back.
  2546.  
  2547. 553
  2548. 00:30:34,442 --> 00:30:36,009
  2549. Lying in the gutter?
  2550.  
  2551. 554
  2552. 00:30:37,279 --> 00:30:39,582
  2553. Now, look, sweetheart,
  2554. I'll tell you what happened.
  2555.  
  2556. 555
  2557. 00:30:40,381 --> 00:30:42,248
  2558. I was in Birmingham.
  2559.  
  2560. 556
  2561. 00:30:42,250 --> 00:30:43,616
  2562. Birmingham?
  2563.  
  2564. 557
  2565. 00:30:43,618 --> 00:30:44,783
  2566. Hello?
  2567.  
  2568. 558
  2569. 00:30:44,785 --> 00:30:46,386
  2570. Hello, Ben.
  2571.  
  2572. 559
  2573. 00:30:46,388 --> 00:30:47,686
  2574. Hello, Katharine.
  2575.  
  2576. 560
  2577. 00:30:47,688 --> 00:30:50,656
  2578. I'm sorry
  2579. to bother you so late.
  2580.  
  2581. 561
  2582. 00:30:50,658 --> 00:30:53,992
  2583. Listen, were you able to make
  2584. any headway with Mr. Sheehan?
  2585.  
  2586. 562
  2587. 00:30:53,994 --> 00:30:56,828
  2588. No, no. I haven't.
  2589.  
  2590. 563
  2591. 00:30:56,830 --> 00:31:01,033
  2592. I just had an odd conversation
  2593. with Bob McNamara...
  2594.  
  2595. 564
  2596. 00:31:01,035 --> 00:31:05,474
  2597. and I think The Times may
  2598. have a big story tomorrow.
  2599.  
  2600. 565
  2601. 00:31:06,107 --> 00:31:07,839
  2602. Oh, damn it.
  2603.  
  2604. 566
  2605. 00:31:07,841 --> 00:31:10,676
  2606. You know, he wouldn't
  2607. give me any details...
  2608.  
  2609. 567
  2610. 00:31:10,678 --> 00:31:15,984
  2611. but Bob said it was quite
  2612. detrimental to him and...
  2613.  
  2614. 568
  2615. 00:31:37,571 --> 00:31:39,338
  2616. Ben!
  2617.  
  2618. 569
  2619. 00:31:39,340 --> 00:31:41,008
  2620. We got 'em.
  2621.  
  2622. 570
  2623. 00:31:41,010 --> 00:31:42,608
  2624. We got 'em.
  2625.  
  2626. 571
  2627. 00:31:42,610 --> 00:31:43,643
  2628. Huh?
  2629.  
  2630. 572
  2631. 00:31:43,645 --> 00:31:45,311
  2632. - Yeah, quite good.
  2633. - The happy couple.
  2634.  
  2635. 573
  2636. 00:31:45,313 --> 00:31:47,280
  2637. - Hey, chief!
  2638. - Mr. Bradlee.
  2639.  
  2640. 574
  2641. 00:31:47,282 --> 00:31:49,448
  2642. So, did you
  2643. track down Sheehan?
  2644.  
  2645. 575
  2646. 00:31:49,450 --> 00:31:53,321
  2647. No, but, I saw a mock-up
  2648. of tomorrow's front page.
  2649.  
  2650. 576
  2651. 00:31:53,988 --> 00:31:55,955
  2652. There's a big gap.
  2653.  
  2654. 577
  2655. 00:31:55,957 --> 00:31:57,692
  2656. Nothing there but the name.
  2657.  
  2658. 578
  2659. 00:32:01,929 --> 00:32:03,229
  2660. Shit.
  2661.  
  2662. 579
  2663. 00:32:03,231 --> 00:32:04,600
  2664. Shit.
  2665.  
  2666. 580
  2667. 00:32:05,065 --> 00:32:06,434
  2668. Shit!
  2669.  
  2670. 581
  2671. 00:32:14,274 --> 00:32:16,275
  2672. - Give us three.
  2673. - Here you go.
  2674.  
  2675. 582
  2676. 00:32:16,277 --> 00:32:18,813
  2677. Here, here, here.
  2678. Thank you, thank you.
  2679.  
  2680. 583
  2681. 00:32:19,380 --> 00:32:20,849
  2682. Thanks, got it.
  2683.  
  2684. 584
  2685. 00:32:26,788 --> 00:32:28,521
  2686. General Haig, sir.
  2687.  
  2688. 585
  2689. 00:32:28,523 --> 00:32:29,822
  2690. - Hi, Al.
  2691. - Yes, sir.
  2692.  
  2693. 586
  2694. 00:32:29,824 --> 00:32:31,992
  2695. What about
  2696. the casualties last week?
  2697.  
  2698. 587
  2699. 00:32:31,994 --> 00:32:33,225
  2700. You got that figure yet?
  2701.  
  2702. 588
  2703. 00:32:33,227 --> 00:32:35,898
  2704. No, sir, but I think
  2705. it's gonna be quite low.
  2706.  
  2707. 589
  2708. 00:32:36,298 --> 00:32:37,530
  2709. Fine.
  2710.  
  2711. 590
  2712. 00:32:37,532 --> 00:32:40,399
  2713. Okay. Nothing else of interest
  2714. in the world today?
  2715.  
  2716. 591
  2717. 00:32:40,401 --> 00:32:42,903
  2718. Yes, sir.
  2719. Very significant...
  2720.  
  2721. 592
  2722. 00:32:42,905 --> 00:32:46,338
  2723. this goddamn
  2724. New York Times expose...
  2725.  
  2726. 593
  2727. 00:32:46,340 --> 00:32:48,139
  2728. ...of the most
  2729. highly classified
  2730.  
  2731. 594
  2732. 00:32:48,141 --> 00:32:49,842
  2733. documents of the war.
  2734.  
  2735. 595
  2736. 00:32:49,844 --> 00:32:52,078
  2737. You mean that was
  2738. leaked out of the Pentagon?
  2739.  
  2740. 596
  2741. 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,415
  2742. The whole study that
  2743. was done for McNamara.
  2744.  
  2745. 597
  2746. 00:32:56,417 --> 00:33:00,654
  2747. This is a devastating, uh,
  2748. security breach...
  2749.  
  2750. 598
  2751. 00:33:00,656 --> 00:33:03,123
  2752. of the greatest magnitude
  2753. of anything I've ever seen.
  2754.  
  2755. 599
  2756. 00:33:03,125 --> 00:33:05,390
  2757. Well, what's being
  2758. done about it then?
  2759.  
  2760. 600
  2761. 00:33:05,392 --> 00:33:07,159
  2762. Did we know
  2763. this was coming out?
  2764.  
  2765. 601
  2766. 00:33:07,161 --> 00:33:08,761
  2767. No, we did not, sir.
  2768.  
  2769. 602
  2770. 00:33:08,763 --> 00:33:10,195
  2771. I have Doctor Kissinger.
  2772.  
  2773. 603
  2774. 00:33:10,197 --> 00:33:12,964
  2775. Henry, the thing to me
  2776. is just unconscionable.
  2777.  
  2778. 604
  2779. 00:33:12,966 --> 00:33:15,167
  2780. This is treasonable action
  2781. on the part
  2782.  
  2783. 605
  2784. 00:33:15,169 --> 00:33:17,436
  2785. of the bastards
  2786. that put it out.
  2787.  
  2788. 606
  2789. 00:33:17,438 --> 00:33:19,138
  2790. I'm absolutely certain...
  2791.  
  2792. 607
  2793. 00:33:19,140 --> 00:33:22,908
  2794. that this violates
  2795. all sorts of security laws.
  2796.  
  2797. 608
  2798. 00:33:22,910 --> 00:33:24,609
  2799. People have gotta
  2800. be put to the torch
  2801.  
  2802. 609
  2803. 00:33:24,611 --> 00:33:26,581
  2804. for this sort of thing.
  2805.  
  2806. 610
  2807. 00:33:27,881 --> 00:33:31,550
  2808. Christ! McNamara knew
  2809. we couldn't win in '65.
  2810.  
  2811. 611
  2812. 00:33:31,552 --> 00:33:34,455
  2813. That's six goddamn years ago.
  2814.  
  2815. 612
  2816. 00:33:37,292 --> 00:33:38,761
  2817. Well, at least
  2818. we got the wedding.
  2819.  
  2820. 613
  2821. 00:33:41,596 --> 00:33:43,529
  2822. Is anybody else tired
  2823. of reading the news
  2824.  
  2825. 614
  2826. 00:33:43,531 --> 00:33:45,932
  2827. instead of reporting it?
  2828.  
  2829. 615
  2830. 00:33:45,934 --> 00:33:47,099
  2831. Do we have any leads?
  2832.  
  2833. 616
  2834. 00:33:47,101 --> 00:33:48,533
  2835. There's a guy Phil and I know
  2836. in Boston...
  2837.  
  2838. 617
  2839. 00:33:48,535 --> 00:33:49,636
  2840. who worked at Defense
  2841.  
  2842. 618
  2843. 00:33:49,638 --> 00:33:50,971
  2844. when McNamara
  2845. commissioned the study.
  2846.  
  2847. 619
  2848. 00:33:50,973 --> 00:33:52,539
  2849. All right, call him.
  2850.  
  2851. 620
  2852. 00:33:52,541 --> 00:33:54,406
  2853. Anybody else?
  2854.  
  2855. 621
  2856. 00:33:54,408 --> 00:33:56,542
  2857. So that's it?
  2858.  
  2859. 622
  2860. 00:33:56,544 --> 00:33:59,511
  2861. Our best goddamn lead
  2862. is coming from editorial?
  2863.  
  2864. 623
  2865. 00:33:59,513 --> 00:34:01,313
  2866. Well, we are sucking hind tit
  2867.  
  2868. 624
  2869. 00:34:01,315 --> 00:34:02,581
  2870. in our own backyard.
  2871.  
  2872. 625
  2873. 00:34:02,583 --> 00:34:04,517
  2874. Ben, come on,
  2875. it's one story.
  2876.  
  2877. 626
  2878. 00:34:04,519 --> 00:34:06,452
  2879. No, it's 7,000 pages...
  2880.  
  2881. 627
  2882. 00:34:06,454 --> 00:34:08,553
  2883. detailing how
  2884. the White House has been
  2885.  
  2886. 628
  2887. 00:34:08,555 --> 00:34:10,657
  2888. lying about the Vietnam War
  2889. for 30 years.
  2890.  
  2891. 629
  2892. 00:34:10,659 --> 00:34:15,962
  2893. It's Truman and Eisenhower
  2894. and Jack and LBJ lying.
  2895.  
  2896. 630
  2897. 00:34:15,964 --> 00:34:18,264
  2898. Lying about Vietnam.
  2899.  
  2900. 631
  2901. 00:34:18,266 --> 00:34:20,168
  2902. And you think
  2903. that's one story?
  2904.  
  2905. 632
  2906. 00:34:21,335 --> 00:34:23,104
  2907. Let's do our jobs.
  2908.  
  2909. 633
  2910. 00:34:24,505 --> 00:34:26,040
  2911. Find those pages!
  2912.  
  2913. 634
  2914. 00:34:30,779 --> 00:34:32,378
  2915. Ben, uh...
  2916.  
  2917. 635
  2918. 00:34:32,380 --> 00:34:34,947
  2919. I might have something.
  2920. Maybe.
  2921.  
  2922. 636
  2923. 00:34:34,949 --> 00:34:37,983
  2924. Well, let me know when it's
  2925. a little less wishy-washy.
  2926.  
  2927. 637
  2928. 00:34:37,985 --> 00:34:41,190
  2929. I'm gonna go chase down
  2930. a lead of my own.
  2931.  
  2932. 638
  2933. 00:34:45,192 --> 00:34:48,228
  2934. Why don't you cut
  2935. your bangs, just a little bit?
  2936.  
  2937. 639
  2938. 00:34:48,230 --> 00:34:49,965
  2939. Mummy,
  2940. I'm right in the middle.
  2941.  
  2942. 640
  2943. 00:34:55,670 --> 00:34:58,438
  2944. It's a bit hard to read,
  2945. isn't it?
  2946.  
  2947. 641
  2948. 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,043
  2949. Harder for you, I imagine.
  2950.  
  2951. 642
  2952. 00:35:01,442 --> 00:35:02,743
  2953. No.
  2954.  
  2955. 643
  2956. 00:35:03,045 --> 00:35:04,246
  2957. Why?
  2958.  
  2959. 644
  2960. 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,579
  2961. These were your people...
  2962.  
  2963. 645
  2964. 00:35:06,581 --> 00:35:09,983
  2965. McNamara and Kennedy
  2966. and Johnson.
  2967.  
  2968. 646
  2969. 00:35:09,985 --> 00:35:12,552
  2970. Well, Jack and Lyndon
  2971. were your father's friends.
  2972.  
  2973. 647
  2974. 00:35:12,554 --> 00:35:13,987
  2975. You flew down to Texas
  2976. with Lyndon
  2977.  
  2978. 648
  2979. 00:35:13,989 --> 00:35:15,387
  2980. the weekend
  2981. after his convention.
  2982.  
  2983. 649
  2984. 00:35:15,389 --> 00:35:17,657
  2985. That's your fault. You wanted
  2986. to see his helicopter land.
  2987.  
  2988. 650
  2989. 00:35:17,659 --> 00:35:19,924
  2990. And the instant he saw you,
  2991. he invited you to the ranch.
  2992.  
  2993. 651
  2994. 00:35:19,926 --> 00:35:22,328
  2995. Oh, well, he just wanted
  2996. the paper to endorse.
  2997.  
  2998. 652
  2999. 00:35:22,330 --> 00:35:23,596
  3000. Yes, but my point is
  3001.  
  3002. 653
  3003. 00:35:23,598 --> 00:35:25,565
  3004. you had Steve and Bill
  3005. waiting at home.
  3006.  
  3007. 654
  3008. 00:35:25,567 --> 00:35:26,766
  3009. - You had houseguests...
  3010. - I know.
  3011.  
  3012. 655
  3013. 00:35:26,768 --> 00:35:28,099
  3014. ...waiting at the farm.
  3015.  
  3016. 656
  3017. 00:35:28,101 --> 00:35:29,768
  3018. You had nothing but dirty
  3019. clothes in your suitcase.
  3020.  
  3021. 657
  3022. 00:35:29,770 --> 00:35:31,270
  3023. How do you know what
  3024. I had in my suitcase?
  3025.  
  3026. 658
  3027. 00:35:31,272 --> 00:35:32,371
  3028. Yet you jumped
  3029. on Air Force One,
  3030.  
  3031. 659
  3032. 00:35:32,373 --> 00:35:33,440
  3033. spent the weekend...
  3034.  
  3035. 660
  3036. 00:35:33,442 --> 00:35:34,507
  3037. I did not jump.
  3038.  
  3039. 661
  3040. 00:35:34,509 --> 00:35:35,775
  3041. ...swimming
  3042. and speed-boating...
  3043.  
  3044. 662
  3045. 00:35:35,777 --> 00:35:37,342
  3046. You and Luvie Pearson
  3047. said I had to go!
  3048.  
  3049. 663
  3050. 00:35:37,344 --> 00:35:38,913
  3051. ...with Lyndon
  3052. and Lady Bird.
  3053.  
  3054. 664
  3055. 00:35:44,085 --> 00:35:46,686
  3056. It's hard to say...
  3057.  
  3058. 665
  3059. 00:35:46,688 --> 00:35:49,556
  3060. "no" to the President
  3061. of the United States.
  3062.  
  3063. 666
  3064. 00:35:54,228 --> 00:35:56,228
  3065. Were you expecting someone?
  3066.  
  3067. 667
  3068. 00:35:56,230 --> 00:35:57,999
  3069. At this hour?
  3070.  
  3071. 668
  3072. 00:36:03,270 --> 00:36:05,337
  3073. I hope I'm not too early.
  3074.  
  3075. 669
  3076. 00:36:05,339 --> 00:36:07,907
  3077. Not at all.
  3078. Must be urgent.
  3079.  
  3080. 670
  3081. 00:36:07,909 --> 00:36:09,708
  3082. Where's your sister?
  3083.  
  3084. 671
  3085. 00:36:11,980 --> 00:36:14,012
  3086. That's my tea, darling.
  3087.  
  3088. 672
  3089. 00:36:14,014 --> 00:36:16,983
  3090. Where's your sister?
  3091. Let's go find her.
  3092.  
  3093. 673
  3094. 00:36:16,985 --> 00:36:18,754
  3095. Let's go find her.
  3096.  
  3097. 674
  3098. 00:36:21,089 --> 00:36:23,659
  3099. I trust you saw
  3100. The New York Times.
  3101.  
  3102. 675
  3103. 00:36:24,125 --> 00:36:25,157
  3104. Hmm.
  3105.  
  3106. 676
  3107. 00:36:25,159 --> 00:36:27,492
  3108. The study, the one
  3109. they are working off of...
  3110.  
  3111. 677
  3112. 00:36:27,494 --> 00:36:29,027
  3113. that was commissioned
  3114. by Robert McNamara.
  3115.  
  3116. 678
  3117. 00:36:29,029 --> 00:36:30,096
  3118. Yeah.
  3119.  
  3120. 679
  3121. 00:36:30,098 --> 00:36:32,498
  3122. And if he commissioned it,
  3123. he might have a copy.
  3124.  
  3125. 680
  3126. 00:36:37,804 --> 00:36:40,540
  3127. I don't need to tell you
  3128. that finding a source...
  3129.  
  3130. 681
  3131. 00:36:40,542 --> 00:36:42,442
  3132. it's like finding a
  3133. needle in a haystack.
  3134.  
  3135. 682
  3136. 00:36:42,444 --> 00:36:43,641
  3137. I don't need the metaphor.
  3138.  
  3139. 683
  3140. 00:36:43,643 --> 00:36:44,710
  3141. Well, I haven't been a writer
  3142.  
  3143. 684
  3144. 00:36:44,712 --> 00:36:46,045
  3145. for a while
  3146. so that old cliche...
  3147.  
  3148. 685
  3149. 00:36:46,047 --> 00:36:48,215
  3150. that was the best comparison
  3151. I could come up with.
  3152.  
  3153. 686
  3154. 00:36:49,583 --> 00:36:52,286
  3155. I need a copy
  3156. of that study, Kay.
  3157.  
  3158. 687
  3159. 00:36:53,822 --> 00:36:55,520
  3160. Give her the ball, Ben.
  3161.  
  3162. 688
  3163. 00:36:55,522 --> 00:36:57,058
  3164. - Here you go.
  3165. - Thank you.
  3166.  
  3167. 689
  3168. 00:36:59,426 --> 00:37:02,128
  3169. You know, Ben,
  3170. as much as I do relish
  3171.  
  3172. 690
  3173. 00:37:02,130 --> 00:37:03,932
  3174. a good investigative
  3175. assignment...
  3176.  
  3177. 691
  3178. 00:37:05,366 --> 00:37:08,067
  3179. Bob McNamara is an old friend.
  3180.  
  3181. 692
  3182. 00:37:08,069 --> 00:37:10,369
  3183. He's going through a lot
  3184. in his life right now.
  3185.  
  3186. 693
  3187. 00:37:10,371 --> 00:37:13,706
  3188. I just think he's probably
  3189. said all he wants to say.
  3190.  
  3191. 694
  3192. 00:37:13,708 --> 00:37:16,009
  3193. Why do you think?
  3194.  
  3195. 695
  3196. 00:37:16,011 --> 00:37:17,308
  3197. - Why?
  3198. - Why?
  3199.  
  3200. 696
  3201. 00:37:17,310 --> 00:37:18,777
  3202. Why is he talking to you?
  3203.  
  3204. 697
  3205. 00:37:18,779 --> 00:37:21,146
  3206. Well, I just told you,
  3207. he's my friend and...
  3208.  
  3209. 698
  3210. 00:37:21,148 --> 00:37:23,951
  3211. Is he talking to
  3212. any other friends?
  3213.  
  3214. 699
  3215. 00:37:25,487 --> 00:37:26,851
  3216. I'm not sure
  3217.  
  3218. 700
  3219. 00:37:26,853 --> 00:37:28,954
  3220. I appreciate the implication
  3221. of what you just said.
  3222.  
  3223. 701
  3224. 00:37:28,956 --> 00:37:31,257
  3225. McNamara is talking
  3226. to you...
  3227.  
  3228. 702
  3229. 00:37:31,259 --> 00:37:33,592
  3230. because you are the publisher
  3231. of The Washington Post.
  3232.  
  3233. 703
  3234. 00:37:33,594 --> 00:37:35,427
  3235. That's not true.
  3236. No, that is not why.
  3237.  
  3238. 704
  3239. 00:37:35,429 --> 00:37:37,329
  3240. Because he wants you
  3241. to bail him out.
  3242.  
  3243. 705
  3244. 00:37:37,331 --> 00:37:38,431
  3245. Because he wants you
  3246. on his side.
  3247.  
  3248. 706
  3249. 00:37:38,433 --> 00:37:39,697
  3250. No, there's no ulterior...
  3251. No!
  3252.  
  3253. 707
  3254. 00:37:39,699 --> 00:37:42,201
  3255. Ben, that's not my role.
  3256. You know that.
  3257.  
  3258. 708
  3259. 00:37:42,203 --> 00:37:45,337
  3260. I wouldn't presume to tell you
  3261. how to write about him.
  3262.  
  3263. 709
  3264. 00:37:45,339 --> 00:37:49,041
  3265. Just as I wouldn't
  3266. take it upon myself...
  3267.  
  3268. 710
  3269. 00:37:49,043 --> 00:37:53,012
  3270. to tell him he should hand
  3271. over a classified study...
  3272.  
  3273. 711
  3274. 00:37:53,014 --> 00:37:55,648
  3275. which would be a crime,
  3276. by the way...
  3277.  
  3278. 712
  3279. 00:37:55,650 --> 00:37:58,754
  3280. just so he can serve
  3281. as your source.
  3282.  
  3283. 713
  3284. 00:37:59,554 --> 00:38:02,057
  3285. Our source, Katharine.
  3286.  
  3287. 714
  3288. 00:38:13,735 --> 00:38:15,168
  3289. No. Uh... No...
  3290.  
  3291. 715
  3292. 00:38:15,170 --> 00:38:19,137
  3293. I'm not. I'm not going to ask
  3294. Bob for the study.
  3295.  
  3296. 716
  3297. 00:38:19,139 --> 00:38:20,139
  3298. All right.
  3299.  
  3300. 717
  3301. 00:38:20,141 --> 00:38:21,739
  3302. I get it.
  3303. You have a relationship
  3304.  
  3305. 718
  3306. 00:38:21,741 --> 00:38:23,942
  3307. with Bob McNamara.
  3308.  
  3309. 719
  3310. 00:38:23,944 --> 00:38:27,045
  3311. But don't you think you have
  3312. an obligation as well
  3313.  
  3314. 720
  3315. 00:38:27,047 --> 00:38:28,947
  3316. to the paper
  3317. and to the public?
  3318.  
  3319. 721
  3320. 00:38:28,949 --> 00:38:30,650
  3321. Let me ask you something.
  3322.  
  3323. 722
  3324. 00:38:30,652 --> 00:38:32,585
  3325. Was that how you felt
  3326. when you were
  3327.  
  3328. 723
  3329. 00:38:32,587 --> 00:38:34,552
  3330. palling around
  3331. with Jack Kennedy?
  3332.  
  3333. 724
  3334. 00:38:34,554 --> 00:38:36,554
  3335. Where was
  3336. your sense of duty then?
  3337.  
  3338. 725
  3339. 00:38:36,556 --> 00:38:40,659
  3340. I don't recall you pushing him
  3341. particularly hard on anything.
  3342.  
  3343. 726
  3344. 00:38:40,661 --> 00:38:43,496
  3345. I pushed Jack when I had to.
  3346.  
  3347. 727
  3348. 00:38:43,498 --> 00:38:45,264
  3349. I never pulled any punches.
  3350.  
  3351. 728
  3352. 00:38:45,266 --> 00:38:46,431
  3353. Is that right?
  3354.  
  3355. 729
  3356. 00:38:46,433 --> 00:38:49,601
  3357. 'Cause you used to dine at
  3358. the White House once a week.
  3359.  
  3360. 730
  3361. 00:38:49,603 --> 00:38:51,871
  3362. All the trips to Camp David.
  3363.  
  3364. 731
  3365. 00:38:51,873 --> 00:38:53,840
  3366. Oh, and that drunken
  3367. birthday cruise
  3368.  
  3369. 732
  3370. 00:38:53,842 --> 00:38:56,177
  3371. on the Sequoia
  3372. you told me about.
  3373.  
  3374. 733
  3375. 00:38:57,811 --> 00:38:59,043
  3376. Hard to believe you would have
  3377.  
  3378. 734
  3379. 00:38:59,045 --> 00:39:00,980
  3380. gotten
  3381. all those invitations...
  3382.  
  3383. 735
  3384. 00:39:00,982 --> 00:39:04,085
  3385. if you didn't
  3386. pull a few punches.
  3387.  
  3388. 736
  3389. 00:39:09,056 --> 00:39:10,623
  3390. Street protests
  3391. broke out today
  3392.  
  3393. 737
  3394. 00:39:10,625 --> 00:39:11,857
  3395. across the country...
  3396.  
  3397. 738
  3398. 00:39:11,859 --> 00:39:13,458
  3399. after the publication
  3400. of more excerpts...
  3401.  
  3402. 739
  3403. 00:39:13,460 --> 00:39:15,694
  3404. from a classified
  3405. Department of Defense study
  3406.  
  3407. 740
  3408. 00:39:15,696 --> 00:39:17,395
  3409. in The New York Times.
  3410.  
  3411. 741
  3412. 00:39:17,397 --> 00:39:18,398
  3413. The study, commissioned
  3414.  
  3415. 742
  3416. 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,965
  3417. by former Secretary of Defense
  3418. Robert McNamara...
  3419.  
  3420. 743
  3421. 00:39:20,967 --> 00:39:22,335
  3422. has ignited further debate
  3423.  
  3424. 744
  3425. 00:39:22,337 --> 00:39:24,436
  3426. over the ongoing war
  3427. in Vietnam...
  3428.  
  3429. 745
  3430. 00:39:24,438 --> 00:39:27,005
  3431. as it makes clear
  3432. that Kennedy and Johnson...
  3433.  
  3434. 746
  3435. 00:39:27,007 --> 00:39:29,041
  3436. as well as
  3437. Eisenhower and Truman,
  3438.  
  3439. 747
  3440. 00:39:29,043 --> 00:39:31,911
  3441. deeply misled
  3442. the country on Vietnam.
  3443.  
  3444. 748
  3445. 00:39:31,913 --> 00:39:33,779
  3446. The bombshell series
  3447. has appeared
  3448.  
  3449. 749
  3450. 00:39:33,781 --> 00:39:36,148
  3451. for the last two days
  3452. in The New York Times.
  3453.  
  3454. 750
  3455. 00:39:36,150 --> 00:39:38,550
  3456. We don't want
  3457. your stinking war.
  3458.  
  3459. 751
  3460. 00:39:38,552 --> 00:39:40,152
  3461. One, two, three, four.
  3462.  
  3463. 752
  3464. 00:39:40,154 --> 00:39:42,491
  3465. We don't want
  3466. your stinking war.
  3467.  
  3468. 753
  3469. 00:39:44,292 --> 00:39:45,791
  3470. ♪ I've walked and I've crawled
  3471. on six crooked highways ♪
  3472.  
  3473. 754
  3474. 00:39:45,793 --> 00:39:49,128
  3475. Not for what is politic
  3476. but for what is right.
  3477.  
  3478. 755
  3479. 00:39:49,130 --> 00:39:50,061
  3480. Right!
  3481.  
  3482. 756
  3483. 00:39:50,063 --> 00:39:52,697
  3484. Like my brother Mario said...
  3485.  
  3486. 757
  3487. 00:39:52,699 --> 00:39:54,967
  3488. "There is a time
  3489. when the operation
  3490.  
  3491. 758
  3492. 00:39:54,969 --> 00:39:57,103
  3493. "of the machine
  3494. becomes so odious...
  3495.  
  3496. 759
  3497. 00:39:57,105 --> 00:40:00,005
  3498. "that you've got to put
  3499. your body upon the gears...
  3500.  
  3501. 760
  3502. 00:40:00,007 --> 00:40:02,674
  3503. "and upon the wheels,
  3504. and upon the levers...
  3505.  
  3506. 761
  3507. 00:40:02,676 --> 00:40:04,911
  3508. "and you've got to
  3509. make it stop."
  3510.  
  3511. 762
  3512. 00:40:04,913 --> 00:40:06,244
  3513. One, two, three four.
  3514.  
  3515. 763
  3516. 00:40:06,246 --> 00:40:08,547
  3517. We don't want
  3518. your stinking war.
  3519.  
  3520. 764
  3521. 00:40:08,549 --> 00:40:11,049
  3522. Someone gives up his life,
  3523.  
  3524. 765
  3525. 00:40:11,051 --> 00:40:12,784
  3526. so that the President...
  3527.  
  3528. 766
  3529. 00:40:12,786 --> 00:40:14,654
  3530. doesn't have
  3531. to admit something
  3532.  
  3533. 767
  3534. 00:40:14,656 --> 00:40:16,221
  3535. the entire world
  3536. already knows.
  3537.  
  3538. 768
  3539. 00:40:16,223 --> 00:40:17,855
  3540. Your dinner
  3541. with Mr. and Mrs. Rosenthal
  3542.  
  3543. 769
  3544. 00:40:17,857 --> 00:40:19,058
  3545. is at seven in the Oak Room...
  3546.  
  3547. 770
  3548. 00:40:19,060 --> 00:40:20,358
  3549. and then I'll meet you
  3550. tomorrow morning
  3551.  
  3552. 771
  3553. 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:21,226
  3554. in the lobby at eight...
  3555.  
  3556. 772
  3557. 00:40:21,228 --> 00:40:22,295
  3558. so you'll have plenty of time
  3559.  
  3560. 773
  3561. 00:40:22,297 --> 00:40:23,596
  3562. to get downtown
  3563. before the offering.
  3564.  
  3565. 774
  3566. 00:40:23,598 --> 00:40:24,963
  3567. And the breakfast.
  3568.  
  3569. 775
  3570. 00:40:24,965 --> 00:40:27,366
  3571. "All designed to meet
  3572. these five desiderata."
  3573.  
  3574. 776
  3575. 00:40:29,737 --> 00:40:30,837
  3576. Bagdikian.
  3577.  
  3578. 777
  3579. 00:40:30,839 --> 00:40:32,337
  3580. It's Harry Rowen.
  3581.  
  3582. 778
  3583. 00:40:32,339 --> 00:40:36,343
  3584. Hey, uh, let me call you back
  3585. from outside the newsroom.
  3586.  
  3587. 779
  3588. 00:40:58,965 --> 00:41:03,101
  3589. Excuse me,
  3590. are you important?
  3591.  
  3592. 780
  3593. 00:41:03,103 --> 00:41:05,404
  3594. I'm a general
  3595. assignment reporter.
  3596.  
  3597. 781
  3598. 00:41:05,406 --> 00:41:06,907
  3599. Okay.
  3600.  
  3601. 782
  3602. 00:41:38,973 --> 00:41:40,973
  3603. Uh, I think I got something.
  3604.  
  3605. 783
  3606. 00:41:40,975 --> 00:41:42,442
  3607. Be my guest.
  3608.  
  3609. 784
  3610. 00:41:42,444 --> 00:41:43,976
  3611. Can we lose The New York
  3612. Times from the nut graph?
  3613.  
  3614. 785
  3615. 00:41:43,978 --> 00:41:45,344
  3616. Ben, they are
  3617. the source of the story.
  3618.  
  3619. 786
  3620. 00:41:45,346 --> 00:41:47,413
  3621. Every time I read The New York
  3622. Times above the fold...
  3623.  
  3624. 787
  3625. 00:41:47,415 --> 00:41:48,547
  3626. - Mr. Bradlee?
  3627. - No.
  3628.  
  3629. 788
  3630. 00:41:48,549 --> 00:41:50,449
  3631. I feel like somebody's shoving
  3632. a hot poker up my ass.
  3633.  
  3634. 789
  3635. 00:41:50,451 --> 00:41:51,750
  3636. All right, just say The Times,
  3637.  
  3638. 790
  3639. 00:41:51,752 --> 00:41:52,951
  3640. and drop it
  3641. a graph below the fold.
  3642.  
  3643. 791
  3644. 00:41:52,953 --> 00:41:54,020
  3645. There you go.
  3646.  
  3647. 792
  3648. 00:41:54,022 --> 00:41:55,322
  3649. That would
  3650. be less painful.
  3651.  
  3652. 793
  3653. 00:41:55,989 --> 00:41:57,389
  3654. I think I got something.
  3655.  
  3656. 794
  3657. 00:41:57,391 --> 00:41:59,291
  3658. "McNaughton had McNamara
  3659. plan for action."
  3660.  
  3661. 795
  3662. 00:41:59,293 --> 00:42:01,793
  3663. Well, that's two months
  3664. before the election.
  3665.  
  3666. 796
  3667. 00:42:01,795 --> 00:42:03,295
  3668. "Suggested
  3669. sending large numbers
  3670.  
  3671. 797
  3672. 00:42:03,297 --> 00:42:04,929
  3673. "of U.S. forces to interlard."
  3674.  
  3675. 798
  3676. 00:42:04,931 --> 00:42:06,065
  3677. "Interlard"?
  3678.  
  3679. 799
  3680. 00:42:06,067 --> 00:42:07,132
  3681. Where'd you get these?
  3682.  
  3683. 800
  3684. 00:42:07,134 --> 00:42:08,433
  3685. Somebody left them on my desk.
  3686.  
  3687. 801
  3688. 00:42:08,435 --> 00:42:09,902
  3689. All these guys
  3690. sound like they sleep
  3691.  
  3692. 802
  3693. 00:42:09,904 --> 00:42:11,406
  3694. with a damn thesaurus.
  3695.  
  3696. 803
  3697. 00:42:12,505 --> 00:42:15,574
  3698. So McNaughton was secretly
  3699. suggesting to McNamara...
  3700.  
  3701. 804
  3702. 00:42:15,576 --> 00:42:16,608
  3703. to provoke the North so we'd
  3704.  
  3705. 805
  3706. 00:42:16,610 --> 00:42:17,877
  3707. - have grounds for escalation?
  3708. - Yep.
  3709.  
  3710. 806
  3711. 00:42:17,879 --> 00:42:19,512
  3712. Yeah, it was
  3713. in The Times article.
  3714.  
  3715. 807
  3716. 00:42:19,514 --> 00:42:21,279
  3717. It was a good piece.
  3718. You should check it out.
  3719.  
  3720. 808
  3721. 00:42:21,281 --> 00:42:22,648
  3722. - It was well-written.
  3723. - Jesus Christ.
  3724.  
  3725. 809
  3726. 00:42:22,650 --> 00:42:25,016
  3727. Give it to someone who can't
  3728. type 91 words a minute...
  3729.  
  3730. 810
  3731. 00:42:25,018 --> 00:42:26,819
  3732. and have it proofed, okay?
  3733.  
  3734. 811
  3735. 00:42:26,821 --> 00:42:28,119
  3736. - Ben?
  3737. - Yeah?
  3738.  
  3739. 812
  3740. 00:42:28,121 --> 00:42:29,855
  3741. I think we got something.
  3742.  
  3743. 813
  3744. 00:42:29,857 --> 00:42:31,293
  3745. What is it?
  3746.  
  3747. 814
  3748. 00:42:39,366 --> 00:42:40,668
  3749. Jesus Christ.
  3750.  
  3751. 815
  3752. 00:42:41,536 --> 00:42:42,934
  3753. Shit. Are these
  3754.  
  3755. 816
  3756. 00:42:42,936 --> 00:42:44,536
  3757. part of the pages
  3758. of the McNamara study?
  3759.  
  3760. 817
  3761. 00:42:44,538 --> 00:42:45,704
  3762. Where did you get these?
  3763.  
  3764. 818
  3765. 00:42:45,706 --> 00:42:47,440
  3766. Somebody left them on my desk.
  3767.  
  3768. 819
  3769. 00:42:47,442 --> 00:42:48,474
  3770. On your desk?
  3771.  
  3772. 820
  3773. 00:42:48,476 --> 00:42:50,909
  3774. - I didn't... It was a woman.
  3775. - A woman?
  3776.  
  3777. 821
  3778. 00:42:50,911 --> 00:42:53,645
  3779. We got over 100 pages
  3780. of the McNamara study here.
  3781.  
  3782. 822
  3783. 00:42:53,647 --> 00:42:55,648
  3784. A hippie woman.
  3785.  
  3786. 823
  3787. 00:42:55,650 --> 00:42:57,181
  3788. Hey, Debbie,
  3789. get me Bagdikian.
  3790.  
  3791. 824
  3792. 00:42:57,183 --> 00:42:58,282
  3793. She had one of those skirts...
  3794.  
  3795. 825
  3796. 00:42:58,284 --> 00:43:00,253
  3797. He's out.
  3798. He went somewhere.
  3799.  
  3800. 826
  3801. 00:43:00,255 --> 00:43:01,119
  3802. Fine.
  3803.  
  3804. 827
  3805. 00:43:01,121 --> 00:43:02,520
  3806. Probably
  3807. between 5'4 " and 5'6"...
  3808.  
  3809. 828
  3810. 00:43:02,522 --> 00:43:06,791
  3811. If these are the real thing,
  3812. we are back in the ballgame.
  3813.  
  3814. 829
  3815. 00:43:06,793 --> 00:43:08,226
  3816. It was a tie-dye skirt.
  3817.  
  3818. 830
  3819. 00:43:08,228 --> 00:43:11,395
  3820. And this is gonna be the front
  3821. page of tomorrow's paper.
  3822.  
  3823. 831
  3824. 00:43:11,397 --> 00:43:15,502
  3825. Um... Give it to Marder.
  3826. It's his lucky day.
  3827.  
  3828. 832
  3829. 00:43:21,743 --> 00:43:24,011
  3830. My God, the fun.
  3831.  
  3832. 833
  3833. 00:43:25,946 --> 00:43:27,212
  3834. RAND Corporation.
  3835.  
  3836. 834
  3837. 00:43:27,214 --> 00:43:28,750
  3838. Harry Rowen, please.
  3839.  
  3840. 835
  3841. 00:43:34,054 --> 00:43:35,288
  3842. This is Harry.
  3843.  
  3844. 836
  3845. 00:43:35,290 --> 00:43:37,288
  3846. Harry, it's Ben Bagdikian.
  3847.  
  3848. 837
  3849. 00:43:37,290 --> 00:43:39,424
  3850. You think someone's
  3851. bugging your phone?
  3852.  
  3853. 838
  3854. 00:43:39,426 --> 00:43:43,061
  3855. I think someone
  3856. might be bugging yours.
  3857.  
  3858. 839
  3859. 00:43:43,063 --> 00:43:45,663
  3860. Why would someone
  3861. bug my phone?
  3862.  
  3863. 840
  3864. 00:43:45,665 --> 00:43:47,032
  3865. If I thought
  3866. the McNamara study
  3867.  
  3868. 841
  3869. 00:43:47,034 --> 00:43:48,266
  3870. had leaked from RAND...
  3871.  
  3872. 842
  3873. 00:43:48,268 --> 00:43:51,570
  3874. I'd bug the phone of the
  3875. president of RAND.
  3876.  
  3877. 843
  3878. 00:43:51,572 --> 00:43:53,271
  3879. It's a DoD study.
  3880.  
  3881. 844
  3882. 00:43:53,273 --> 00:43:55,808
  3883. A copy of which was sent to
  3884. RAND for safekeeping.
  3885.  
  3886. 845
  3887. 00:43:55,810 --> 00:43:59,478
  3888. Two copies,
  3889. if I'm not mistaken.
  3890.  
  3891. 846
  3892. 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,514
  3893. Jesus Christ, Ben, that leak
  3894. didn't come from us.
  3895.  
  3896. 847
  3897. 00:44:02,516 --> 00:44:04,152
  3898. You sure about that?
  3899.  
  3900. 848
  3901. 00:44:04,752 --> 00:44:06,252
  3902. Look, in my experience...
  3903.  
  3904. 849
  3905. 00:44:06,254 --> 00:44:08,020
  3906. guys who
  3907. want stuff like this out there
  3908.  
  3909. 850
  3910. 00:44:08,022 --> 00:44:09,221
  3911. and have the guts to do it...
  3912.  
  3913. 851
  3914. 00:44:09,223 --> 00:44:10,521
  3915. they're a particular type.
  3916.  
  3917. 852
  3918. 00:44:10,523 --> 00:44:12,123
  3919. They've got conscience
  3920. and conviction...
  3921.  
  3922. 853
  3923. 00:44:12,125 --> 00:44:14,393
  3924. but they've also got ego.
  3925.  
  3926. 854
  3927. 00:44:14,395 --> 00:44:16,929
  3928. Now, there's a guy that
  3929. we both know, okay?
  3930.  
  3931. 855
  3932. 00:44:16,931 --> 00:44:18,764
  3933. He was there
  3934. the same time as I was.
  3935.  
  3936. 856
  3937. 00:44:18,766 --> 00:44:20,199
  3938. He left right after.
  3939.  
  3940. 857
  3941. 00:44:20,201 --> 00:44:22,134
  3942. You know
  3943. who I'm talking about, right?
  3944.  
  3945. 858
  3946. 00:44:22,136 --> 00:44:23,536
  3947. Isn't he the first guy
  3948. you thought of
  3949.  
  3950. 859
  3951. 00:44:23,538 --> 00:44:26,206
  3952. when you saw
  3953. the article in The Times?
  3954.  
  3955. 860
  3956. 00:44:28,576 --> 00:44:31,476
  3957. Okay, look, I gotta go.
  3958.  
  3959. 861
  3960. 00:44:38,851 --> 00:44:40,219
  3961. Mr. and Mrs. Rosenthal.
  3962.  
  3963. 862
  3964. 00:44:40,221 --> 00:44:42,290
  3965. - Oh, yes, I see.
  3966. - You're welcome.
  3967.  
  3968. 863
  3969. 00:44:44,058 --> 00:44:45,190
  3970. I don't wanna push it.
  3971.  
  3972. 864
  3973. 00:44:45,192 --> 00:44:46,826
  3974. - Hi.
  3975. - Ah, Kay.
  3976.  
  3977. 865
  3978. 00:44:46,828 --> 00:44:47,992
  3979. What a treat!
  3980.  
  3981. 866
  3982. 00:44:47,994 --> 00:44:49,762
  3983. I'm just going to
  3984. apologize in advance.
  3985.  
  3986. 867
  3987. 00:44:49,764 --> 00:44:51,130
  3988. Great to see you.
  3989.  
  3990. 868
  3991. 00:44:51,132 --> 00:44:54,833
  3992. I'm no fun at all, Abe.
  3993. I'm just so nervous...
  3994.  
  3995. 869
  3996. 00:44:54,835 --> 00:44:56,335
  3997. about tomorrow
  3998. at the stock exchange.
  3999.  
  4000. 870
  4001. 00:44:56,337 --> 00:44:57,936
  4002. And I have to make
  4003. a big speech.
  4004.  
  4005. 871
  4006. 00:44:57,938 --> 00:44:59,538
  4007. - No, no, no, no.
  4008. - Poor you.
  4009.  
  4010. 872
  4011. 00:44:59,540 --> 00:45:02,007
  4012. No, going public is
  4013. a good move for The Post.
  4014.  
  4015. 873
  4016. 00:45:02,009 --> 00:45:04,108
  4017. Maybe you can even think
  4018. about expanding.
  4019.  
  4020. 874
  4021. 00:45:04,110 --> 00:45:06,411
  4022. Try to be more
  4023. of a national paper.
  4024.  
  4025. 875
  4026. 00:45:06,413 --> 00:45:08,213
  4027. I wish Abe would
  4028. let me buy shares.
  4029.  
  4030. 876
  4031. 00:45:08,215 --> 00:45:10,148
  4032. That's against
  4033. company policy...
  4034.  
  4035. 877
  4036. 00:45:10,150 --> 00:45:12,684
  4037. but if you're nervous
  4038. and need distraction...
  4039.  
  4040. 878
  4041. 00:45:12,686 --> 00:45:15,822
  4042. I do happen to have a copy
  4043. of today's Times.
  4044.  
  4045. 879
  4046. 00:45:15,824 --> 00:45:16,825
  4047. Abe!
  4048.  
  4049. 880
  4050. 00:45:17,824 --> 00:45:19,424
  4051. Unless you read it already.
  4052.  
  4053. 881
  4054. 00:45:19,426 --> 00:45:22,895
  4055. Oh, you awful man.
  4056. You really are.
  4057.  
  4058. 882
  4059. 00:45:22,897 --> 00:45:24,329
  4060. Can we get you
  4061. something to drink?
  4062.  
  4063. 883
  4064. 00:45:24,331 --> 00:45:26,599
  4065. Bundy argues
  4066. for sustained bombing.
  4067.  
  4068. 884
  4069. 00:45:26,601 --> 00:45:27,565
  4070. Great stuff.
  4071.  
  4072. 885
  4073. 00:45:27,567 --> 00:45:28,833
  4074. He thinks
  4075. it'll turn the tide.
  4076.  
  4077. 886
  4078. 00:45:28,835 --> 00:45:30,034
  4079. This is February of '65.
  4080.  
  4081. 887
  4082. 00:45:30,036 --> 00:45:31,404
  4083. Jesus Christ.
  4084.  
  4085. 888
  4086. 00:45:31,406 --> 00:45:33,739
  4087. But by April, they realize
  4088. it's not gonna cut it...
  4089.  
  4090. 889
  4091. 00:45:33,741 --> 00:45:35,507
  4092. and LBJ sends two battalions.
  4093.  
  4094. 890
  4095. 00:45:35,509 --> 00:45:36,875
  4096. - Great stuff.
  4097. - And get this.
  4098.  
  4099. 891
  4100. 00:45:36,877 --> 00:45:38,311
  4101. He changes the mission
  4102.  
  4103. 892
  4104. 00:45:38,313 --> 00:45:40,411
  4105. from base security
  4106. to active combat.
  4107.  
  4108. 893
  4109. 00:45:40,413 --> 00:45:42,348
  4110. - My God.
  4111. - It's a huge shift.
  4112.  
  4113. 894
  4114. 00:45:42,350 --> 00:45:43,882
  4115. He's widening the war.
  4116.  
  4117. 895
  4118. 00:45:43,884 --> 00:45:45,550
  4119. But he insists on secrecy.
  4120.  
  4121. 896
  4122. 00:45:45,552 --> 00:45:47,186
  4123. The American people are
  4124. not to be told.
  4125.  
  4126. 897
  4127. 00:45:47,188 --> 00:45:48,654
  4128. All right, okay.
  4129. So this is the real deal...
  4130.  
  4131. 898
  4132. 00:45:48,656 --> 00:45:50,456
  4133. so how long
  4134. till you can write it up?
  4135.  
  4136. 899
  4137. 00:45:50,458 --> 00:45:52,123
  4138. I can have it for Thursday.
  4139.  
  4140. 900
  4141. 00:45:52,125 --> 00:45:53,259
  4142. Well, what if we pretend
  4143.  
  4144. 901
  4145. 00:45:53,261 --> 00:45:55,460
  4146. you're a reporter,
  4147. not a novelist?
  4148.  
  4149. 902
  4150. 00:45:55,462 --> 00:45:56,962
  4151. Uh, I suppose I could pull
  4152.  
  4153. 903
  4154. 00:45:56,964 --> 00:45:58,396
  4155. something together
  4156. by tomorrow night.
  4157.  
  4158. 904
  4159. 00:45:58,398 --> 00:46:00,400
  4160. Okay, we can
  4161. run it on Wednesday.
  4162.  
  4163. 905
  4164. 00:46:01,569 --> 00:46:03,335
  4165. I know
  4166. we need to get this out, Ben,
  4167.  
  4168. 906
  4169. 00:46:03,337 --> 00:46:04,770
  4170. but I'd like to
  4171. spend a minute...
  4172.  
  4173. 907
  4174. 00:46:04,772 --> 00:46:07,172
  4175. going through what we've got
  4176. on Rolling Thunder.
  4177.  
  4178. 908
  4179. 00:46:07,174 --> 00:46:08,741
  4180. Go through
  4181. all the research you want...
  4182.  
  4183. 909
  4184. 00:46:08,743 --> 00:46:10,509
  4185. but so help me God,
  4186. if we don't have
  4187.  
  4188. 910
  4189. 00:46:10,511 --> 00:46:12,143
  4190. these pages
  4191. by tomorrow night...
  4192.  
  4193. 911
  4194. 00:46:12,145 --> 00:46:13,445
  4195. we might as well
  4196. not have them at all.
  4197.  
  4198. 912
  4199. 00:46:13,447 --> 00:46:14,516
  4200. Too late.
  4201.  
  4202. 913
  4203. 00:46:15,715 --> 00:46:16,782
  4204. What?
  4205.  
  4206. 914
  4207. 00:46:16,784 --> 00:46:18,186
  4208. Times already has it.
  4209.  
  4210. 915
  4211. 00:46:22,121 --> 00:46:23,454
  4212. Well, of course they have it.
  4213.  
  4214. 916
  4215. 00:46:23,456 --> 00:46:25,724
  4216. "President Johnson
  4217. decided on April 1, 1965..."
  4218.  
  4219. 917
  4220. 00:46:25,726 --> 00:46:28,460
  4221. Of course The Times had...
  4222. Written by Neil Sheehan.
  4223.  
  4224. 918
  4225. 00:46:28,462 --> 00:46:31,096
  4226. "...because
  4227. a month of bombing..."
  4228.  
  4229. 919
  4230. 00:46:31,098 --> 00:46:32,498
  4231. Neil Sheehan's a bastard.
  4232.  
  4233. 920
  4234. 00:46:32,500 --> 00:46:33,965
  4235. He's been a bastard for years.
  4236.  
  4237. 921
  4238. 00:46:33,967 --> 00:46:35,833
  4239. Mr. President,
  4240. the Attorney General
  4241.  
  4242. 922
  4243. 00:46:35,835 --> 00:46:37,235
  4244. has called a couple times...
  4245.  
  4246. 923
  4247. 00:46:37,237 --> 00:46:40,172
  4248. about these
  4249. New York Times stories.
  4250.  
  4251. 924
  4252. 00:46:40,174 --> 00:46:41,907
  4253. You mean to
  4254. prosecute The Times?
  4255.  
  4256. 925
  4257. 00:46:41,909 --> 00:46:43,342
  4258. Hell, my view is
  4259.  
  4260. 926
  4261. 00:46:43,344 --> 00:46:45,244
  4262. to prosecute the goddamn
  4263. pricks that gave it to 'em.
  4264.  
  4265. 927
  4266. 00:46:45,246 --> 00:46:46,344
  4267. If you can
  4268. find out who that is.
  4269.  
  4270. 928
  4271. 00:46:46,346 --> 00:46:47,478
  4272. Yeah, I know.
  4273.  
  4274. 929
  4275. 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,313
  4276. I mean, could The Times
  4277. be prosecuted?
  4278.  
  4279. 930
  4280. 00:46:49,315 --> 00:46:51,382
  4281. Apparently so.
  4282.  
  4283. 931
  4284. 00:46:51,384 --> 00:46:52,550
  4285. As far as
  4286. The Times is concerned,
  4287.  
  4288. 932
  4289. 00:46:52,552 --> 00:46:53,886
  4290. hell, they're our enemies.
  4291.  
  4292. 933
  4293. 00:46:53,888 --> 00:46:56,654
  4294. I think we just oughta do it.
  4295.  
  4296. 934
  4297. 00:46:56,656 --> 00:46:58,592
  4298. Son of a bitch.
  4299.  
  4300. 935
  4301. 00:47:01,763 --> 00:47:02,929
  4302. Abe Rosenthal.
  4303.  
  4304. 936
  4305. 00:47:02,931 --> 00:47:05,699
  4306. Good evening. Their table
  4307. is right over there, sir.
  4308.  
  4309. 937
  4310. 00:47:07,268 --> 00:47:09,268
  4311. Brownell and Loeb over
  4312. at Lord Day and Lord...
  4313.  
  4314. 938
  4315. 00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:12,637
  4316. told Punch in no uncertain
  4317. terms not to publish.
  4318.  
  4319. 939
  4320. 00:47:12,639 --> 00:47:14,806
  4321. Only after Scotty Reston
  4322. threatened
  4323.  
  4324. 940
  4325. 00:47:14,808 --> 00:47:16,407
  4326. to publish
  4327. in the Vineyard Gazette...
  4328.  
  4329. 941
  4330. 00:47:16,409 --> 00:47:18,043
  4331. did Punch decide to print.
  4332.  
  4333. 942
  4334. 00:47:18,045 --> 00:47:20,579
  4335. Wouldn't have had
  4336. quite the same impact.
  4337.  
  4338. 943
  4339. 00:47:21,681 --> 00:47:22,683
  4340. Jimmy.
  4341.  
  4342. 944
  4343. 00:47:24,551 --> 00:47:28,721
  4344. We've been asked to refrain
  4345. from further publication...
  4346.  
  4347. 945
  4348. 00:47:28,723 --> 00:47:30,858
  4349. by the Attorney General.
  4350.  
  4351. 946
  4352. 00:47:32,259 --> 00:47:34,762
  4353. Nixon's taking us to court?
  4354.  
  4355. 947
  4356. 00:47:40,835 --> 00:47:42,534
  4357. Kay, I'm sorry...
  4358.  
  4359. 948
  4360. 00:47:42,536 --> 00:47:43,804
  4361. Oh, no.
  4362.  
  4363. 949
  4364. 00:47:47,540 --> 00:47:48,676
  4365. Gosh.
  4366.  
  4367. 950
  4368. 00:47:53,413 --> 00:47:55,279
  4369. Why don't I go get the check?
  4370.  
  4371. 951
  4372. 00:47:55,281 --> 00:47:56,782
  4373. No, sit tight,
  4374. don't argue with me.
  4375.  
  4376. 952
  4377. 00:47:56,784 --> 00:47:58,720
  4378. I'll be right back.
  4379.  
  4380. 953
  4381. 00:48:03,891 --> 00:48:06,358
  4382. Mr. Rosenthal
  4383. had to leave on business.
  4384.  
  4385. 954
  4386. 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,259
  4387. Certainly,
  4388. we'll put it on his tab.
  4389.  
  4390. 955
  4391. 00:48:08,261 --> 00:48:09,494
  4392. No, I'll take the bill,
  4393.  
  4394. 956
  4395. 00:48:09,496 --> 00:48:12,230
  4396. but could I trouble you
  4397. to use your telephone?
  4398.  
  4399. 957
  4400. 00:48:12,232 --> 00:48:13,667
  4401. But of course, madam.
  4402.  
  4403. 958
  4404. 00:48:21,375 --> 00:48:23,476
  4405. There's a fella I overlapped
  4406. with at RAND.
  4407.  
  4408. 959
  4409. 00:48:23,478 --> 00:48:25,576
  4410. He was a bit of
  4411. a showboat, but smart.
  4412.  
  4413. 960
  4414. 00:48:25,578 --> 00:48:27,279
  4415. And he worked for McNamara...
  4416.  
  4417. 961
  4418. 00:48:27,281 --> 00:48:28,512
  4419. and he had opinions
  4420.  
  4421. 962
  4422. 00:48:28,514 --> 00:48:31,616
  4423. on the decision-making
  4424. that went into Vietnam.
  4425.  
  4426. 963
  4427. 00:48:31,618 --> 00:48:32,516
  4428. Okay.
  4429.  
  4430. 964
  4431. 00:48:32,518 --> 00:48:35,454
  4432. Word is, he doved.
  4433. Pretty hard.
  4434.  
  4435. 965
  4436. 00:48:35,456 --> 00:48:37,523
  4437. Would he have access
  4438. to the study?
  4439.  
  4440. 966
  4441. 00:48:37,525 --> 00:48:39,625
  4442. Pretty sure RAND had a copy.
  4443.  
  4444. 967
  4445. 00:48:39,627 --> 00:48:42,828
  4446. No shit. All right,
  4447. well, can you find him?
  4448.  
  4449. 968
  4450. 00:48:42,830 --> 00:48:44,996
  4451. Thought maybe I'd try.
  4452.  
  4453. 969
  4454. 00:48:48,301 --> 00:48:50,704
  4455. I've got
  4456. Mrs. Graham on the line.
  4457.  
  4458. 970
  4459. 00:48:51,906 --> 00:48:53,639
  4460. Katharine.
  4461.  
  4462. 971
  4463. 00:48:53,641 --> 00:48:57,409
  4464. Hey, listen,
  4465. I've got tomorrow's headline.
  4466.  
  4467. 972
  4468. 00:48:57,411 --> 00:49:00,478
  4469. Oh, Christ, okay, again?
  4470.  
  4471. 973
  4472. 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,614
  4473. John Mitchell contacted
  4474. The Times.
  4475.  
  4476. 974
  4477. 00:49:02,616 --> 00:49:05,753
  4478. Seems the President is going
  4479. to seek an injunction.
  4480.  
  4481. 975
  4482. 00:49:06,319 --> 00:49:08,286
  4483. No, shit.
  4484.  
  4485. 976
  4486. 00:49:08,288 --> 00:49:10,554
  4487. This means that we're in
  4488. the goddamn ballgame.
  4489.  
  4490. 977
  4491. 00:49:10,556 --> 00:49:12,791
  4492. Because if The Times
  4493. gets shut down...
  4494.  
  4495. 978
  4496. 00:49:12,793 --> 00:49:13,893
  4497. If they get shut down,
  4498.  
  4499. 979
  4500. 00:49:13,895 --> 00:49:16,762
  4501. there is no ballgame.
  4502. Ballgame's over.
  4503.  
  4504. 980
  4505. 00:49:16,764 --> 00:49:17,795
  4506. Now, Katharine,
  4507.  
  4508. 981
  4509. 00:49:17,797 --> 00:49:20,433
  4510. anybody would kill
  4511. to have a crack at this.
  4512.  
  4513. 982
  4514. 00:49:20,435 --> 00:49:23,235
  4515. Well, sure, but not if it
  4516. means breaking the law.
  4517.  
  4518. 983
  4519. 00:49:23,237 --> 00:49:27,405
  4520. If a federal judge stops
  4521. The Times from publishing...
  4522.  
  4523. 984
  4524. 00:49:27,407 --> 00:49:29,875
  4525. well, I don't see how
  4526. we could publish...
  4527.  
  4528. 985
  4529. 00:49:29,877 --> 00:49:32,612
  4530. even if we could
  4531. get hold of a copy.
  4532.  
  4533. 986
  4534. 00:49:35,348 --> 00:49:38,518
  4535. Ben?
  4536. You have something?
  4537.  
  4538. 987
  4539. 00:49:39,619 --> 00:49:41,253
  4540. No.
  4541.  
  4542. 988
  4543. 00:49:41,255 --> 00:49:44,355
  4544. Okay, so then there's
  4545. nothing to talk about really.
  4546.  
  4547. 989
  4548. 00:49:44,357 --> 00:49:47,425
  4549. No, nothing
  4550. to talk about at all...
  4551.  
  4552. 990
  4553. 00:49:47,427 --> 00:49:50,462
  4554. but thank you for the tip,
  4555. Mrs. Graham.
  4556.  
  4557. 991
  4558. 00:49:51,565 --> 00:49:53,801
  4559. What are you still doing here?
  4560.  
  4561. 992
  4562. 00:50:17,558 --> 00:50:19,060
  4563. Excuse me.
  4564.  
  4565. 993
  4566. 00:50:22,830 --> 00:50:24,098
  4567. All right.
  4568.  
  4569. 994
  4570. 00:50:26,933 --> 00:50:28,199
  4571. Oh, there she is.
  4572.  
  4573. 995
  4574. 00:50:28,201 --> 00:50:29,800
  4575. - Hello.
  4576. - How are ya, Kay?
  4577.  
  4578. 996
  4579. 00:50:29,802 --> 00:50:32,070
  4580. Good morning, everyone.
  4581. Good to see you.
  4582.  
  4583. 997
  4584. 00:50:32,072 --> 00:50:32,938
  4585. Hello?
  4586.  
  4587. 998
  4588. 00:50:32,940 --> 00:50:34,639
  4589. Yeah, I'm looking
  4590. for Dan Ellsberg.
  4591.  
  4592. 999
  4593. 00:50:34,641 --> 00:50:36,407
  4594. He doesn't work here anymore.
  4595.  
  4596. 1000
  4597. 00:50:36,409 --> 00:50:38,242
  4598. Do you know where he is now?
  4599.  
  4600. 1001
  4601. 00:50:38,244 --> 00:50:40,378
  4602. No, I don't. Who is this?
  4603.  
  4604. 1002
  4605. 00:50:40,380 --> 00:50:41,846
  4606. Thank you.
  4607.  
  4608. 1003
  4609. 00:50:41,848 --> 00:50:44,416
  4610. And it is
  4611. my great privilege to welcome
  4612.  
  4613. 1004
  4614. 00:50:44,418 --> 00:50:46,518
  4615. The Washington Post Company...
  4616.  
  4617. 1005
  4618. 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,022
  4619. to the American
  4620. Stock Exchange.
  4621.  
  4622. 1006
  4623. 00:50:53,761 --> 00:50:56,261
  4624. More than a privilege,
  4625. Mrs. Graham.
  4626.  
  4627. 1007
  4628. 00:50:56,263 --> 00:50:57,797
  4629. This is a real honor.
  4630.  
  4631. 1008
  4632. 00:50:58,764 --> 00:50:59,864
  4633. Hello, this is Karen.
  4634.  
  4635. 1009
  4636. 00:50:59,866 --> 00:51:01,299
  4637. Yeah, I'm looking
  4638. for Dan Ellsberg.
  4639.  
  4640. 1010
  4641. 00:51:01,301 --> 00:51:02,904
  4642. You got the wrong number.
  4643.  
  4644. 1011
  4645. 00:51:05,205 --> 00:51:06,304
  4646. Speech.
  4647.  
  4648. 1012
  4649. 00:51:06,306 --> 00:51:08,643
  4650. Go and project
  4651. confidence, Kay.
  4652.  
  4653. 1013
  4654. 00:51:10,444 --> 00:51:11,646
  4655. Gentlemen...
  4656.  
  4657. 1014
  4658. 00:51:12,411 --> 00:51:14,978
  4659. thank you all for helping make
  4660.  
  4661. 1015
  4662. 00:51:14,980 --> 00:51:17,784
  4663. The Washington Post
  4664. a more robust company.
  4665.  
  4666. 1016
  4667. 00:51:19,786 --> 00:51:21,552
  4668. Center
  4669. for International Studies.
  4670.  
  4671. 1017
  4672. 00:51:21,554 --> 00:51:23,355
  4673. Yeah, I'm looking
  4674. for Dan Ellsberg.
  4675.  
  4676. 1018
  4677. 00:51:23,357 --> 00:51:24,891
  4678. He's not here.
  4679.  
  4680. 1019
  4681. 00:51:26,058 --> 00:51:27,692
  4682. But he still works there?
  4683.  
  4684. 1020
  4685. 00:51:27,694 --> 00:51:30,661
  4686. Yes. Can I take a message?
  4687.  
  4688. 1021
  4689. 00:51:30,663 --> 00:51:33,431
  4690. Uh, tell him
  4691. Ben Bagdikian called.
  4692.  
  4693. 1022
  4694. 00:51:33,433 --> 00:51:34,532
  4695. Congratulations.
  4696.  
  4697. 1023
  4698. 00:51:34,534 --> 00:51:35,599
  4699. Guys, why don't we
  4700.  
  4701. 1024
  4702. 00:51:35,601 --> 00:51:36,934
  4703. get together for a photograph?
  4704.  
  4705. 1025
  4706. 00:51:36,936 --> 00:51:38,103
  4707. - Yes.
  4708. - Good idea. Absolutely.
  4709.  
  4710. 1026
  4711. 00:51:38,105 --> 00:51:39,404
  4712. - Here we go.
  4713. - Let me see it.
  4714.  
  4715. 1027
  4716. 00:51:39,406 --> 00:51:41,373
  4717. - Smile, Kay.
  4718. - Shall I hold it?
  4719.  
  4720. 1028
  4721. 00:51:41,375 --> 00:51:43,041
  4722. You just bought
  4723. a share of The Post!
  4724.  
  4725. 1029
  4726. 00:51:43,043 --> 00:51:45,576
  4727. I know. I'm so happy.
  4728.  
  4729. 1030
  4730. 00:51:45,578 --> 00:51:50,882
  4731. 1.35 million shares
  4732. at $24.50 a share.
  4733.  
  4734. 1031
  4735. 00:51:53,853 --> 00:51:56,288
  4736. I believe this will not only
  4737. make The Post solvent...
  4738.  
  4739. 1032
  4740. 00:51:56,290 --> 00:51:58,556
  4741. but stronger
  4742. than it ever has been.
  4743.  
  4744. 1033
  4745. 00:51:58,558 --> 00:51:59,690
  4746. - To The Post!
  4747. - The Post!
  4748.  
  4749. 1034
  4750. 00:51:59,692 --> 00:52:01,460
  4751. He said to call
  4752. from a secure phone.
  4753.  
  4754. 1035
  4755. 00:52:01,462 --> 00:52:02,763
  4756. Mmm-hmm.
  4757.  
  4758. 1036
  4759. 00:52:09,703 --> 00:52:11,302
  4760. I hear
  4761. Kennedy said Phil Graham
  4762.  
  4763. 1037
  4764. 00:52:11,304 --> 00:52:12,737
  4765. was the smartest man
  4766. he ever met.
  4767.  
  4768. 1038
  4769. 00:52:12,739 --> 00:52:15,540
  4770. Yeah, for Kay's father to hand
  4771. her husband the company...
  4772.  
  4773. 1039
  4774. 00:52:15,542 --> 00:52:17,442
  4775. says something about the guy.
  4776.  
  4777. 1040
  4778. 00:52:17,444 --> 00:52:20,746
  4779. I thought it said something
  4780. about the time.
  4781.  
  4782. 1041
  4783. 00:52:20,748 --> 00:52:22,246
  4784. Turn it up.
  4785.  
  4786. 1042
  4787. 00:52:22,248 --> 00:52:23,882
  4788. Good evening.
  4789. The New York Times late today
  4790.  
  4791. 1043
  4792. 00:52:23,884 --> 00:52:26,050
  4793. was barred,
  4794. at least until Saturday...
  4795.  
  4796. 1044
  4797. 00:52:26,052 --> 00:52:28,786
  4798. from publishing any more
  4799. classified documents...
  4800.  
  4801. 1045
  4802. 00:52:28,788 --> 00:52:32,590
  4803. dealing with the cause and
  4804. conduct of the Vietnam War.
  4805.  
  4806. 1046
  4807. 00:52:32,592 --> 00:52:34,525
  4808. The Times, true to its word...
  4809.  
  4810. 1047
  4811. 00:52:34,527 --> 00:52:36,061
  4812. said it would abide
  4813. by the decision
  4814.  
  4815. 1048
  4816. 00:52:36,063 --> 00:52:38,029
  4817. of Federal Judge
  4818. Murray Gurfein...
  4819.  
  4820. 1049
  4821. 00:52:38,031 --> 00:52:40,297
  4822. but will resist
  4823. a permanent injunction
  4824.  
  4825. 1050
  4826. 00:52:40,299 --> 00:52:41,666
  4827. at a hearing Friday.
  4828.  
  4829. 1051
  4830. 00:52:41,668 --> 00:52:43,601
  4831. The Nixon administration
  4832. have charged that
  4833.  
  4834. 1052
  4835. 00:52:43,603 --> 00:52:45,670
  4836. the final two parts of
  4837. The Times' series...
  4838.  
  4839. 1053
  4840. 00:52:45,672 --> 00:52:47,405
  4841. would result in
  4842. irreparable injury
  4843.  
  4844. 1054
  4845. 00:52:47,407 --> 00:52:49,040
  4846. to the national defense.
  4847.  
  4848. 1055
  4849. 00:52:49,042 --> 00:52:50,808
  4850. Hell, why bother
  4851. fighting the communists?
  4852.  
  4853. 1056
  4854. 00:52:50,810 --> 00:52:52,511
  4855. Think Jefferson just
  4856. rolled over in his grave.
  4857.  
  4858. 1057
  4859. 00:52:52,513 --> 00:52:55,547
  4860. Have the courts ever stopped a
  4861. paper from publishing before?
  4862.  
  4863. 1058
  4864. 00:52:55,549 --> 00:52:59,117
  4865. Not in the history
  4866. of the republic.
  4867.  
  4868. 1059
  4869. 00:52:59,119 --> 00:53:01,485
  4870. Good thing
  4871. we're not part of this mess.
  4872.  
  4873. 1060
  4874. 00:53:01,487 --> 00:53:04,723
  4875. I'd give my left one
  4876. to be in this mess.
  4877.  
  4878. 1061
  4879. 00:53:04,725 --> 00:53:07,125
  4880. There's our
  4881. front page lede tomorrow.
  4882.  
  4883. 1062
  4884. 00:53:07,127 --> 00:53:08,663
  4885. Chal, that's yours.
  4886.  
  4887. 1063
  4888. 00:53:09,228 --> 00:53:11,128
  4889. All right.
  4890.  
  4891. 1064
  4892. 00:53:11,130 --> 00:53:14,100
  4893. Party's over.
  4894. Let's get back to our jobs.
  4895.  
  4896. 1065
  4897. 00:53:29,215 --> 00:53:32,183
  4898. - Hello?
  4899. - Hi, it's Ben.
  4900.  
  4901. 1066
  4902. 00:53:32,185 --> 00:53:33,951
  4903. - Yes.
  4904. - Dan?
  4905.  
  4906. 1067
  4907. 00:53:33,953 --> 00:53:35,119
  4908. No.
  4909.  
  4910. 1068
  4911. 00:53:35,121 --> 00:53:38,991
  4912. Oh, I'm trying to get a hold
  4913. of a fella I used to know...
  4914.  
  4915. 1069
  4916. 00:53:38,993 --> 00:53:41,458
  4917. 617-597-4580.
  4918.  
  4919. 1070
  4920. 00:53:41,460 --> 00:53:42,763
  4921. Okay.
  4922.  
  4923. 1071
  4924. 00:53:45,565 --> 00:53:47,334
  4925. Hold on.
  4926.  
  4927. 1072
  4928. 00:53:48,601 --> 00:53:50,302
  4929. Was it 4580?
  4930.  
  4931. 1073
  4932. 00:53:50,304 --> 00:53:52,137
  4933. Call from another phone.
  4934.  
  4935. 1074
  4936. 00:53:52,139 --> 00:53:56,243
  4937. 617-597-4580.
  4938.  
  4939. 1075
  4940. 00:54:05,987 --> 00:54:10,291
  4941. 617-597-4580.
  4942.  
  4943. 1076
  4944. 00:54:18,665 --> 00:54:20,065
  4945. Hello?
  4946.  
  4947. 1077
  4948. 00:54:20,067 --> 00:54:23,134
  4949. - Yeah, I'm looking for...
  4950. - Yeah. Hey, Ben, it's Dan.
  4951.  
  4952. 1078
  4953. 00:54:23,136 --> 00:54:26,637
  4954. Dan, it's good
  4955. to hear your voice.
  4956.  
  4957. 1079
  4958. 00:54:26,639 --> 00:54:28,340
  4959. Yeah, it's been a while.
  4960.  
  4961. 1080
  4962. 00:54:28,342 --> 00:54:29,710
  4963. Yeah.
  4964.  
  4965. 1081
  4966. 00:54:47,860 --> 00:54:50,063
  4967. - Who is it?
  4968. - It's Ben.
  4969.  
  4970. 1082
  4971. 00:54:59,505 --> 00:55:00,741
  4972. Ben.
  4973.  
  4974. 1083
  4975. 00:55:01,074 --> 00:55:02,375
  4976. Dan.
  4977.  
  4978. 1084
  4979. 00:55:07,813 --> 00:55:10,549
  4980. The study had 47 volumes.
  4981.  
  4982. 1085
  4983. 00:55:10,551 --> 00:55:12,284
  4984. I slipped out
  4985. a couple at a time.
  4986.  
  4987. 1086
  4988. 00:55:12,286 --> 00:55:13,821
  4989. Took me months to copy it all.
  4990.  
  4991. 1087
  4992. 00:55:17,590 --> 00:55:18,824
  4993. What the hell?
  4994.  
  4995. 1088
  4996. 00:55:18,826 --> 00:55:21,793
  4997. Well, we were
  4998. all former government guys.
  4999.  
  5000. 1089
  5001. 00:55:21,795 --> 00:55:23,695
  5002. Top clearance, all of that.
  5003.  
  5004. 1090
  5005. 00:55:23,697 --> 00:55:25,730
  5006. McNamara wanted
  5007. academics to have
  5008.  
  5009. 1091
  5010. 00:55:25,732 --> 00:55:27,565
  5011. the chance to examine
  5012. what had happened.
  5013.  
  5014. 1092
  5015. 00:55:27,567 --> 00:55:28,666
  5016. He would say to us,
  5017.  
  5018. 1093
  5019. 00:55:28,668 --> 00:55:30,367
  5020. "Let the chips fall
  5021. where they may."
  5022.  
  5023. 1094
  5024. 00:55:30,369 --> 00:55:31,570
  5025. Brave man.
  5026.  
  5027. 1095
  5028. 00:55:31,572 --> 00:55:34,338
  5029. Well, I think guilt was a
  5030. bigger motivator than courage.
  5031.  
  5032. 1096
  5033. 00:55:34,340 --> 00:55:36,241
  5034. McNamara didn't lie
  5035. as well as the rest...
  5036.  
  5037. 1097
  5038. 00:55:36,243 --> 00:55:39,344
  5039. but I don't think he saw what
  5040. was coming, what we'd find.
  5041.  
  5042. 1098
  5043. 00:55:39,346 --> 00:55:41,579
  5044. But it didn't take him long
  5045. to figure out...
  5046.  
  5047. 1099
  5048. 00:55:41,581 --> 00:55:42,681
  5049. well, for us all
  5050. to figure out
  5051.  
  5052. 1100
  5053. 00:55:42,683 --> 00:55:44,516
  5054. if the public ever saw
  5055. these papers...
  5056.  
  5057. 1101
  5058. 00:55:44,518 --> 00:55:46,150
  5059. they would turn
  5060. against the war.
  5061.  
  5062. 1102
  5063. 00:55:46,152 --> 00:55:49,154
  5064. Covert ops, guaranteed debt,
  5065. rigged elections?
  5066.  
  5067. 1103
  5068. 00:55:49,156 --> 00:55:53,090
  5069. It's all in there.
  5070. Ike, Kennedy, Johnson.
  5071.  
  5072. 1104
  5073. 00:55:53,092 --> 00:55:54,793
  5074. They violated
  5075. the Geneva Convention.
  5076.  
  5077. 1105
  5078. 00:55:54,795 --> 00:55:57,529
  5079. They lied to Congress
  5080. and they lied to the public.
  5081.  
  5082. 1106
  5083. 00:55:57,531 --> 00:56:01,699
  5084. They knew we couldn't win
  5085. and still sent boys to die.
  5086.  
  5087. 1107
  5088. 00:56:01,701 --> 00:56:03,436
  5089. What about Nixon?
  5090.  
  5091. 1108
  5092. 00:56:04,705 --> 00:56:06,503
  5093. He's just carrying on
  5094. like all the others.
  5095.  
  5096. 1109
  5097. 00:56:06,505 --> 00:56:09,777
  5098. Too afraid to be the one who
  5099. loses the war on his watch.
  5100.  
  5101. 1110
  5102. 00:56:11,177 --> 00:56:14,045
  5103. Someone said this
  5104. at some point...
  5105.  
  5106. 1111
  5107. 00:56:14,047 --> 00:56:16,984
  5108. about why we stayed
  5109. when we knew we were losing.
  5110.  
  5111. 1112
  5112. 00:56:17,951 --> 00:56:20,485
  5113. 10% was to help
  5114. the South Vietnamese.
  5115.  
  5116. 1113
  5117. 00:56:20,487 --> 00:56:22,356
  5118. 20% was to hold back
  5119. the commies.
  5120.  
  5121. 1114
  5122. 00:56:23,324 --> 00:56:25,556
  5123. 70% was to avoid
  5124.  
  5125. 1115
  5126. 00:56:25,558 --> 00:56:28,326
  5127. the humiliation
  5128. of an American defeat.
  5129.  
  5130. 1116
  5131. 00:56:28,328 --> 00:56:32,530
  5132. 70% of those boys...
  5133.  
  5134. 1117
  5135. 00:56:32,532 --> 00:56:34,835
  5136. just to avoid
  5137. being humiliated?
  5138.  
  5139. 1118
  5140. 00:56:35,435 --> 00:56:37,071
  5141. That stuck with me.
  5142.  
  5143. 1119
  5144. 00:56:45,978 --> 00:56:47,911
  5145. They're gonna come after you,
  5146. you know.
  5147.  
  5148. 1120
  5149. 00:56:47,913 --> 00:56:50,215
  5150. And I gotta be honest...
  5151.  
  5152. 1121
  5153. 00:56:50,217 --> 00:56:53,119
  5154. the bread crumbs
  5155. weren't too hard to follow.
  5156.  
  5157. 1122
  5158. 00:56:54,621 --> 00:56:55,856
  5159. I know.
  5160.  
  5161. 1123
  5162. 00:56:57,958 --> 00:57:00,324
  5163. They're gonna
  5164. lock you up, Dan.
  5165.  
  5166. 1124
  5167. 00:57:00,326 --> 00:57:03,464
  5168. Wouldn't you go to prison
  5169. to stop this war?
  5170.  
  5171. 1125
  5172. 00:57:05,331 --> 00:57:07,534
  5173. Theoretically, sure.
  5174.  
  5175. 1126
  5176. 00:57:10,770 --> 00:57:14,107
  5177. You are gonna
  5178. publish these documents?
  5179.  
  5180. 1127
  5181. 00:57:16,442 --> 00:57:17,844
  5182. Yeah.
  5183.  
  5184. 1128
  5185. 00:57:18,645 --> 00:57:21,382
  5186. Even with the injunction?
  5187.  
  5188. 1129
  5189. 00:57:23,016 --> 00:57:24,185
  5190. Yes.
  5191.  
  5192. 1130
  5193. 00:57:28,087 --> 00:57:31,324
  5194. Well, then it's not
  5195. so theoretical then, is it?
  5196.  
  5197. 1131
  5198. 00:57:41,935 --> 00:57:45,072
  5199. I'm gonna go do some
  5200. work in the studio.
  5201.  
  5202. 1132
  5203. 00:57:53,246 --> 00:57:56,183
  5204. My day was great,
  5205. thanks for asking.
  5206.  
  5207. 1133
  5208. 00:58:12,531 --> 00:58:15,368
  5209. That picture makes me sad.
  5210.  
  5211. 1134
  5212. 00:58:16,569 --> 00:58:18,237
  5213. Me too.
  5214.  
  5215. 1135
  5216. 00:58:23,310 --> 00:58:25,009
  5217. - Bradlee.
  5218. - I'm in Boston.
  5219.  
  5220. 1136
  5221. 00:58:25,011 --> 00:58:27,244
  5222. I'm gonna need two seats.
  5223.  
  5224. 1137
  5225. 00:58:27,246 --> 00:58:28,179
  5226. Why?
  5227.  
  5228. 1138
  5229. 00:58:28,181 --> 00:58:30,348
  5230. I'm gonna need to
  5231. buy two seats
  5232.  
  5233. 1139
  5234. 00:58:30,350 --> 00:58:31,882
  5235. on the first flight
  5236. out tomorrow...
  5237.  
  5238. 1140
  5239. 00:58:31,884 --> 00:58:33,486
  5240. probably first class.
  5241.  
  5242. 1141
  5243. 00:58:34,587 --> 00:58:36,389
  5244. No shit, you have them?
  5245.  
  5246. 1142
  5247. 00:58:38,824 --> 00:58:41,291
  5248. Well then just get
  5249. your ass back here...
  5250.  
  5251. 1143
  5252. 00:58:41,293 --> 00:58:42,860
  5253. and come
  5254. straight to the house.
  5255.  
  5256. 1144
  5257. 00:58:42,862 --> 00:58:44,362
  5258. Get Chal and Meg
  5259. and the others.
  5260.  
  5261. 1145
  5262. 00:58:44,364 --> 00:58:45,630
  5263. I don't want
  5264. the whole newsroom
  5265.  
  5266. 1146
  5267. 00:58:45,632 --> 00:58:46,831
  5268. knowing about this yet.
  5269.  
  5270. 1147
  5271. 00:58:46,833 --> 00:58:48,132
  5272. I gotta go.
  5273.  
  5274. 1148
  5275. 00:58:48,134 --> 00:58:50,601
  5276. Didn't you just invite
  5277. a bunch of people over?
  5278.  
  5279. 1149
  5280. 00:58:50,603 --> 00:58:51,802
  5281. Yeah.
  5282.  
  5283. 1150
  5284. 00:58:51,804 --> 00:58:54,038
  5285. Yeah, they'll show up
  5286. sometime tomorrow.
  5287.  
  5288. 1151
  5289. 00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:55,172
  5290. When sometime tomorrow?
  5291.  
  5292. 1152
  5293. 00:58:55,174 --> 00:58:56,907
  5294. Is this a breakfast thing
  5295. or a lunch thing?
  5296.  
  5297. 1153
  5298. 00:58:56,909 --> 00:58:59,043
  5299. - Don't know.
  5300. - Do you need me to get things?
  5301.  
  5302. 1154
  5303. 00:58:59,045 --> 00:59:00,779
  5304. - Nah, we'll figure it all out.
  5305. - Okay.
  5306.  
  5307. 1155
  5308. 00:59:00,781 --> 00:59:02,813
  5309. - Well, where are you going?
  5310. - Out.
  5311.  
  5312. 1156
  5313. 00:59:02,815 --> 00:59:04,482
  5314. - You going to the newsroom?
  5315. - No.
  5316.  
  5317. 1157
  5318. 00:59:04,484 --> 00:59:05,983
  5319. Love you, bear.
  5320.  
  5321. 1158
  5322. 00:59:07,186 --> 00:59:09,320
  5323. I got a cake.
  5324. I hope it's okay?
  5325.  
  5326. 1159
  5327. 00:59:09,322 --> 00:59:12,259
  5328. Oh, sure, as long as nobody
  5329. counts the candles.
  5330.  
  5331. 1160
  5332. 00:59:14,094 --> 00:59:16,761
  5333. Uh, sorry to barge in again.
  5334.  
  5335. 1161
  5336. 00:59:16,763 --> 00:59:18,996
  5337. Maybe I should give you a key.
  5338.  
  5339. 1162
  5340. 00:59:18,998 --> 00:59:21,766
  5341. Ah, not here
  5342. to crash your party.
  5343.  
  5344. 1163
  5345. 00:59:21,768 --> 00:59:22,900
  5346. What's up?
  5347.  
  5348. 1164
  5349. 00:59:22,902 --> 00:59:25,003
  5350. Well, I could use a minute.
  5351.  
  5352. 1165
  5353. 00:59:32,110 --> 00:59:34,145
  5354. So, can I ask you a
  5355. hypothetical question?
  5356.  
  5357. 1166
  5358. 00:59:34,147 --> 00:59:36,413
  5359. Oh, dear, I don't like
  5360. hypothetical questions.
  5361.  
  5362. 1167
  5363. 00:59:36,415 --> 00:59:37,882
  5364. Well, I don't think
  5365. you're gonna
  5366.  
  5367. 1168
  5368. 00:59:37,884 --> 00:59:39,419
  5369. like the real one either.
  5370.  
  5371. 1169
  5372. 00:59:42,556 --> 00:59:43,991
  5373. Do you have the papers?
  5374.  
  5375. 1170
  5376. 00:59:45,625 --> 00:59:46,994
  5377. Not yet.
  5378.  
  5379. 1171
  5380. 00:59:50,429 --> 00:59:54,065
  5381. Oh, gosh,
  5382. because you know...
  5383.  
  5384. 1172
  5385. 00:59:54,067 --> 00:59:56,967
  5386. the position
  5387. that would put me in.
  5388.  
  5389. 1173
  5390. 00:59:56,969 --> 00:59:58,436
  5391. You know, we have language
  5392.  
  5393. 1174
  5394. 00:59:58,438 --> 01:00:00,103
  5395. in the prospectus
  5396. that we've...
  5397.  
  5398. 1175
  5399. 01:00:00,105 --> 01:00:02,574
  5400. Yeah, I know that the
  5401. bankers can change their mind.
  5402.  
  5403. 1176
  5404. 01:00:02,576 --> 01:00:04,775
  5405. And I know what is at stake.
  5406.  
  5407. 1177
  5408. 01:00:04,777 --> 01:00:06,076
  5409. You know...
  5410.  
  5411. 1178
  5412. 01:00:06,078 --> 01:00:08,679
  5413. the only couple I knew
  5414. that both Kennedy
  5415.  
  5416. 1179
  5417. 01:00:08,681 --> 01:00:10,282
  5418. and LBJ wanted
  5419. to socialize with...
  5420.  
  5421. 1180
  5422. 01:00:10,284 --> 01:00:14,521
  5423. was you and your husband and
  5424. you owned the damn paper.
  5425.  
  5426. 1181
  5427. 01:00:16,190 --> 01:00:18,088
  5428. Of course that's the way
  5429. things worked.
  5430.  
  5431. 1182
  5432. 01:00:18,090 --> 01:00:20,358
  5433. Politicians and the press,
  5434. they trusted each other...
  5435.  
  5436. 1183
  5437. 01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,059
  5438. so they could go to
  5439. the same dinner party
  5440.  
  5441. 1184
  5442. 01:00:22,061 --> 01:00:23,561
  5443. and drink cocktails
  5444. and tell jokes...
  5445.  
  5446. 1185
  5447. 01:00:23,563 --> 01:00:25,596
  5448. while there was a war
  5449. waging in Vietnam.
  5450.  
  5451. 1186
  5452. 01:00:25,598 --> 01:00:27,297
  5453. Ben, I don't know
  5454. what we're talking about.
  5455.  
  5456. 1187
  5457. 01:00:27,299 --> 01:00:29,300
  5458. I'm not protecting Lyndon.
  5459.  
  5460. 1188
  5461. 01:00:29,302 --> 01:00:30,668
  5462. No, you got his former
  5463. Secretary of Defense,
  5464.  
  5465. 1189
  5466. 01:00:30,670 --> 01:00:31,802
  5467. Robert McNamara...
  5468.  
  5469. 1190
  5470. 01:00:31,804 --> 01:00:33,971
  5471. the man
  5472. who commissioned this study.
  5473.  
  5474. 1191
  5475. 01:00:33,973 --> 01:00:35,373
  5476. He's one of about
  5477. a dozen party guests...
  5478.  
  5479. 1192
  5480. 01:00:35,375 --> 01:00:37,174
  5481. - out on your patio.
  5482. - I'm not protecting him.
  5483.  
  5484. 1193
  5485. 01:00:37,176 --> 01:00:38,241
  5486. I'm not protecting
  5487. any of them.
  5488.  
  5489. 1194
  5490. 01:00:38,243 --> 01:00:39,543
  5491. I'm protecting the paper.
  5492.  
  5493. 1195
  5494. 01:00:39,545 --> 01:00:43,246
  5495. Yeah? Well, I wasn't a stooge
  5496. for Jack Kennedy.
  5497.  
  5498. 1196
  5499. 01:00:43,248 --> 01:00:44,882
  5500. The night he was assassinated
  5501.  
  5502. 1197
  5503. 01:00:44,884 --> 01:00:47,219
  5504. Tony and I were down
  5505. at the Naval Hospital...
  5506.  
  5507. 1198
  5508. 01:00:47,221 --> 01:00:50,954
  5509. so we would be there to meet
  5510. Jackie when she landed.
  5511.  
  5512. 1199
  5513. 01:00:50,956 --> 01:00:52,023
  5514. She was bringing Jack's body
  5515.  
  5516. 1200
  5517. 01:00:52,025 --> 01:00:53,824
  5518. back on the plane
  5519. from Dallas...
  5520.  
  5521. 1201
  5522. 01:00:53,826 --> 01:00:56,194
  5523. and she walked into the room.
  5524.  
  5525. 1202
  5526. 01:00:56,196 --> 01:00:58,128
  5527. She was still
  5528. wearing that pink suit
  5529.  
  5530. 1203
  5531. 01:00:58,130 --> 01:01:00,665
  5532. with Jack's blood all over it.
  5533.  
  5534. 1204
  5535. 01:01:00,667 --> 01:01:03,867
  5536. She fell into Tony's arms
  5537. and they held each other...
  5538.  
  5539. 1205
  5540. 01:01:03,869 --> 01:01:06,072
  5541. for quite a long time.
  5542.  
  5543. 1206
  5544. 01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,373
  5545. And then Jackie looked at me
  5546. and said...
  5547.  
  5548. 1207
  5549. 01:01:10,375 --> 01:01:13,043
  5550. "None of this,
  5551. none of what you see,
  5552.  
  5553. 1208
  5554. 01:01:13,045 --> 01:01:14,311
  5555. "none of what I say...
  5556.  
  5557. 1209
  5558. 01:01:14,313 --> 01:01:18,882
  5559. "is ever going to be
  5560. in your newspaper, Ben."
  5561.  
  5562. 1210
  5563. 01:01:18,884 --> 01:01:21,853
  5564. And that just about
  5565. broke my heart.
  5566.  
  5567. 1211
  5568. 01:01:21,855 --> 01:01:24,020
  5569. I never...
  5570.  
  5571. 1212
  5572. 01:01:24,022 --> 01:01:25,790
  5573. I never thought of Jack
  5574. as a source,
  5575.  
  5576. 1213
  5577. 01:01:25,792 --> 01:01:27,824
  5578. I thought of him as a friend.
  5579.  
  5580. 1214
  5581. 01:01:27,826 --> 01:01:30,194
  5582. And that was my mistake.
  5583.  
  5584. 1215
  5585. 01:01:30,196 --> 01:01:33,665
  5586. And it was something that
  5587. Jack knew all along.
  5588.  
  5589. 1216
  5590. 01:01:33,667 --> 01:01:36,636
  5591. We can't be both.
  5592. We have to choose.
  5593.  
  5594. 1217
  5595. 01:01:37,002 --> 01:01:38,603
  5596. And...
  5597.  
  5598. 1218
  5599. 01:01:38,605 --> 01:01:40,270
  5600. And that's the point.
  5601.  
  5602. 1219
  5603. 01:01:40,272 --> 01:01:42,306
  5604. The days of us all
  5605. smoking cigars together
  5606.  
  5607. 1220
  5608. 01:01:42,308 --> 01:01:45,043
  5609. down on Pennsylvania Avenue
  5610. are over.
  5611.  
  5612. 1221
  5613. 01:01:45,045 --> 01:01:49,249
  5614. Your friend McNamara's
  5615. study proves that.
  5616.  
  5617. 1222
  5618. 01:01:50,049 --> 01:01:52,219
  5619. The way they lied.
  5620.  
  5621. 1223
  5622. 01:01:53,587 --> 01:01:55,753
  5623. The way they lied.
  5624.  
  5625. 1224
  5626. 01:01:55,755 --> 01:01:57,858
  5627. Those days have to be over.
  5628.  
  5629. 1225
  5630. 01:01:59,491 --> 01:02:02,592
  5631. We have to be the check
  5632. on their power.
  5633.  
  5634. 1226
  5635. 01:02:02,594 --> 01:02:04,862
  5636. If we don't
  5637. hold them accountable,
  5638.  
  5639. 1227
  5640. 01:02:04,864 --> 01:02:07,301
  5641. I mean, my God, who will?
  5642.  
  5643. 1228
  5644. 01:02:08,634 --> 01:02:10,402
  5645. Well, I've never
  5646. smoked a cigar...
  5647.  
  5648. 1229
  5649. 01:02:10,404 --> 01:02:13,103
  5650. and I have no problem
  5651. holding Lyndon or Jack...
  5652.  
  5653. 1230
  5654. 01:02:13,105 --> 01:02:15,473
  5655. or Bob or any of them
  5656. accountable.
  5657.  
  5658. 1231
  5659. 01:02:15,475 --> 01:02:17,775
  5660. But we can't
  5661. hold them accountable
  5662.  
  5663. 1232
  5664. 01:02:17,777 --> 01:02:19,679
  5665. if we don't have a newspaper.
  5666.  
  5667. 1233
  5668. 01:02:21,447 --> 01:02:24,014
  5669. When I get my hands
  5670. on that study...
  5671.  
  5672. 1234
  5673. 01:02:24,016 --> 01:02:26,652
  5674. what are you going to do,
  5675. Mrs. Graham?
  5676.  
  5677. 1235
  5678. 01:02:30,022 --> 01:02:32,056
  5679. Oh, uh...
  5680.  
  5681. 1236
  5682. 01:02:32,058 --> 01:02:33,625
  5683. Happy birthday, by the way.
  5684.  
  5685. 1237
  5686. 01:02:36,163 --> 01:02:38,529
  5687. Oh, that's not what I heard.
  5688.  
  5689. 1238
  5690. 01:02:38,531 --> 01:02:39,730
  5691. Am I right?
  5692.  
  5693. 1239
  5694. 01:02:45,371 --> 01:02:46,871
  5695. - Hi. Good morning.
  5696. - Club soda.
  5697.  
  5698. 1240
  5699. 01:02:46,873 --> 01:02:48,542
  5700. - Enjoy your flight.
  5701. - Yes, thank you.
  5702.  
  5703. 1241
  5704. 01:02:49,375 --> 01:02:51,476
  5705. Sir, I'm gonna need
  5706. to put your seat
  5707.  
  5708. 1242
  5709. 01:02:51,478 --> 01:02:53,610
  5710. in the full upright position
  5711. before takeoff.
  5712.  
  5713. 1243
  5714. 01:02:53,612 --> 01:02:54,647
  5715. Yeah.
  5716.  
  5717. 1244
  5718. 01:02:55,248 --> 01:02:57,415
  5719. Must be precious cargo.
  5720.  
  5721. 1245
  5722. 01:02:57,417 --> 01:03:00,585
  5723. Yeah. It's just
  5724. government secrets.
  5725.  
  5726. 1246
  5727. 01:03:00,587 --> 01:03:04,324
  5728. Please fasten
  5729. your seatbelt. Thank you.
  5730.  
  5731. 1247
  5732. 01:03:17,337 --> 01:03:20,404
  5733. - You know why we're here?
  5734. - Beats me.
  5735.  
  5736. 1248
  5737. 01:03:20,406 --> 01:03:22,172
  5738. - Hi, Marina.
  5739. - Hi.
  5740.  
  5741. 1249
  5742. 01:03:22,174 --> 01:03:24,409
  5743. - Do you want lemonade?
  5744. - Little early for me.
  5745.  
  5746. 1250
  5747. 01:03:24,411 --> 01:03:26,076
  5748. Loosen up, I'm buying.
  5749.  
  5750. 1251
  5751. 01:03:26,078 --> 01:03:28,378
  5752. What kinda lemonade
  5753. do you have there?
  5754.  
  5755. 1252
  5756. 01:03:28,380 --> 01:03:31,248
  5757. Uh... It's the one
  5758. with the lemons in it.
  5759.  
  5760. 1253
  5761. 01:03:31,250 --> 01:03:32,451
  5762. Okay.
  5763.  
  5764. 1254
  5765. 01:03:33,719 --> 01:03:35,254
  5766. There you go.
  5767.  
  5768. 1255
  5769. 01:03:37,322 --> 01:03:39,525
  5770. Phil, help me out.
  5771.  
  5772. 1256
  5773. 01:03:41,226 --> 01:03:43,362
  5774. Grab my briefcase.
  5775.  
  5776. 1257
  5777. 01:03:45,130 --> 01:03:46,630
  5778. - Is that...?
  5779. - Yep.
  5780.  
  5781. 1258
  5782. 01:03:59,379 --> 01:04:00,911
  5783. It's not the full report
  5784.  
  5785. 1259
  5786. 01:04:00,913 --> 01:04:03,350
  5787. but it's over
  5788. 4,000 pages of it.
  5789.  
  5790. 1260
  5791. 01:04:06,219 --> 01:04:08,353
  5792. - Are these in order?
  5793. - I don't think so.
  5794.  
  5795. 1261
  5796. 01:04:08,355 --> 01:04:09,654
  5797. There are no page numbers.
  5798.  
  5799. 1262
  5800. 01:04:09,656 --> 01:04:11,554
  5801. Yeah, that's where the
  5802. top secret stamps were.
  5803.  
  5804. 1263
  5805. 01:04:11,556 --> 01:04:13,056
  5806. My source had to cut 'em off.
  5807.  
  5808. 1264
  5809. 01:04:13,058 --> 01:04:14,491
  5810. I was supposed to
  5811. retire on Friday.
  5812.  
  5813. 1265
  5814. 01:04:14,493 --> 01:04:16,027
  5815. Ben, how we supposed
  5816. to comb through
  5817.  
  5818. 1266
  5819. 01:04:16,029 --> 01:04:17,161
  5820. 4,000 pages of material?
  5821.  
  5822. 1267
  5823. 01:04:17,163 --> 01:04:18,329
  5824. They're not even
  5825. loosely organized?
  5826.  
  5827. 1268
  5828. 01:04:18,331 --> 01:04:19,596
  5829. The Times had three months.
  5830.  
  5831. 1269
  5832. 01:04:19,598 --> 01:04:20,797
  5833. There's no way
  5834. we can possibly get this done.
  5835.  
  5836. 1270
  5837. 01:04:20,799 --> 01:04:22,565
  5838. He's right. We've got
  5839. less than eight hours.
  5840.  
  5841. 1271
  5842. 01:04:22,567 --> 01:04:24,201
  5843. We could shoot for city.
  5844. Then we'd have ten.
  5845.  
  5846. 1272
  5847. 01:04:24,203 --> 01:04:25,670
  5848. Hey, hey, hey.
  5849. For the last six years
  5850.  
  5851. 1273
  5852. 01:04:25,672 --> 01:04:27,170
  5853. we've been playin' catch-up...
  5854.  
  5855. 1274
  5856. 01:04:27,172 --> 01:04:28,273
  5857. and now thanks to
  5858.  
  5859. 1275
  5860. 01:04:28,275 --> 01:04:29,674
  5861. the President
  5862. of the United States...
  5863.  
  5864. 1276
  5865. 01:04:29,676 --> 01:04:31,308
  5866. who, by the way,
  5867. is taking a shit
  5868.  
  5869. 1277
  5870. 01:04:31,310 --> 01:04:32,976
  5871. all over
  5872. the First Amendment...
  5873.  
  5874. 1278
  5875. 01:04:32,978 --> 01:04:34,645
  5876. we have the goods.
  5877.  
  5878. 1279
  5879. 01:04:34,647 --> 01:04:36,746
  5880. And we don't have
  5881. any competition.
  5882.  
  5883. 1280
  5884. 01:04:36,748 --> 01:04:38,782
  5885. There's dozens
  5886. of stories in here.
  5887.  
  5888. 1281
  5889. 01:04:38,784 --> 01:04:41,753
  5890. The Times has barely
  5891. scratched the surface.
  5892.  
  5893. 1282
  5894. 01:04:41,755 --> 01:04:44,925
  5895. We have ten hours
  5896. 'til the deadline...
  5897.  
  5898. 1283
  5899. 01:04:45,324 --> 01:04:47,360
  5900. so we dig in.
  5901.  
  5902. 1284
  5903. 01:04:50,764 --> 01:04:53,030
  5904. I think this memo's
  5905. from McNamara.
  5906.  
  5907. 1285
  5908. 01:04:53,032 --> 01:04:54,598
  5909. "It is my belief
  5910. that there should be
  5911.  
  5912. 1286
  5913. 01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:56,433
  5914. "a three- or four-week pause
  5915. in bombing."
  5916.  
  5917. 1287
  5918. 01:04:56,435 --> 01:04:58,570
  5919. Wait, wait, wait. I saw
  5920. the other half of that memo.
  5921.  
  5922. 1288
  5923. 01:04:58,572 --> 01:05:01,938
  5924. Anyone have the back half of
  5925. a cable from Dulles in '54?
  5926.  
  5927. 1289
  5928. 01:05:01,940 --> 01:05:03,842
  5929. I thought I saw one from July.
  5930.  
  5931. 1290
  5932. 01:05:03,844 --> 01:05:06,143
  5933. Yeah, here it is. "The reasons
  5934. for this belief...
  5935.  
  5936. 1291
  5937. 01:05:06,145 --> 01:05:08,045
  5938. "are that we must
  5939. lay a foundation
  5940.  
  5941. 1292
  5942. 01:05:08,047 --> 01:05:09,480
  5943. "in the mind
  5944. of the American public."
  5945.  
  5946. 1293
  5947. 01:05:09,482 --> 01:05:11,451
  5948. That's it! That's it!
  5949.  
  5950. 1294
  5951. 01:05:12,784 --> 01:05:14,418
  5952. So Johnson wasn't trying
  5953. to make peace.
  5954.  
  5955. 1295
  5956. 01:05:14,420 --> 01:05:15,719
  5957. He was just
  5958. manipulating the public?
  5959.  
  5960. 1296
  5961. 01:05:15,721 --> 01:05:18,723
  5962. Eyes out for a suspension
  5963. in bombing from when?
  5964.  
  5965. 1297
  5966. 01:05:18,725 --> 01:05:20,324
  5967. '65 to '68.
  5968.  
  5969. 1298
  5970. 01:05:20,326 --> 01:05:21,659
  5971. What about a memo
  5972.  
  5973. 1299
  5974. 01:05:21,661 --> 01:05:25,029
  5975. from Eisenhower's special
  5976. committee on Indochina?
  5977.  
  5978. 1300
  5979. 01:05:25,031 --> 01:05:26,130
  5980. Uh, Meg read
  5981. a part of one to me.
  5982.  
  5983. 1301
  5984. 01:05:26,132 --> 01:05:27,197
  5985. Meg?
  5986.  
  5987. 1302
  5988. 01:05:27,199 --> 01:05:28,431
  5989. Anybody see a mention
  5990.  
  5991. 1303
  5992. 01:05:28,433 --> 01:05:29,666
  5993. of the RAND Viet Cong study?
  5994.  
  5995. 1304
  5996. 01:05:29,668 --> 01:05:32,002
  5997. Yeah, I think this might be
  5998. from your RAND study.
  5999.  
  6000. 1305
  6001. 01:05:32,004 --> 01:05:33,570
  6002. "VC are deeply committed.
  6003.  
  6004. 1306
  6005. 01:05:33,572 --> 01:05:35,605
  6006. "South Vietnam
  6007. is a lost cause."
  6008.  
  6009. 1307
  6010. 01:05:35,607 --> 01:05:37,608
  6011. - Whoa! There you go.
  6012. - Bingo.
  6013.  
  6014. 1308
  6015. 01:05:37,610 --> 01:05:39,110
  6016. - All right.
  6017. - Meg, I need the...
  6018.  
  6019. 1309
  6020. 01:05:39,112 --> 01:05:40,244
  6021. Yeah,
  6022. I put it on the shelf.
  6023.  
  6024. 1310
  6025. 01:05:40,246 --> 01:05:42,913
  6026. Couple of piles.
  6027. We're getting somewhere.
  6028.  
  6029. 1311
  6030. 01:05:42,915 --> 01:05:45,715
  6031. All right, it's 1:30.
  6032. Four o'clock story conference.
  6033.  
  6034. 1312
  6035. 01:05:45,717 --> 01:05:47,851
  6036. Can I interest anyone
  6037. in some lemonade?
  6038.  
  6039. 1313
  6040. 01:05:47,853 --> 01:05:49,554
  6041. - Yes!
  6042. - Does it have vodka in it?
  6043.  
  6044. 1314
  6045. 01:05:49,556 --> 01:05:51,054
  6046. I don't put vodka
  6047. in my lemonade.
  6048.  
  6049. 1315
  6050. 01:05:51,056 --> 01:05:52,155
  6051. Go easy on the kid.
  6052.  
  6053. 1316
  6054. 01:05:52,157 --> 01:05:53,491
  6055. Why not?
  6056.  
  6057. 1317
  6058. 01:05:53,493 --> 01:05:54,824
  6059. - How much, sweetheart?
  6060. - A quarter.
  6061.  
  6062. 1318
  6063. 01:05:54,826 --> 01:05:55,893
  6064. It's 50 cents.
  6065.  
  6066. 1319
  6067. 01:05:55,895 --> 01:05:57,997
  6068. - Inflation.
  6069. - Price is going up.
  6070.  
  6071. 1320
  6072. 01:06:01,366 --> 01:06:02,967
  6073. Mr. Bradlee.
  6074.  
  6075. 1321
  6076. 01:06:02,969 --> 01:06:04,268
  6077. Roger Clark.
  6078.  
  6079. 1322
  6080. 01:06:04,270 --> 01:06:06,369
  6081. Oh, you're Roger Clark?
  6082.  
  6083. 1323
  6084. 01:06:06,371 --> 01:06:08,271
  6085. It's nice to
  6086. meet you in person.
  6087.  
  6088. 1324
  6089. 01:06:08,273 --> 01:06:11,875
  6090. You are our
  6091. senior legal counsel.
  6092.  
  6093. 1325
  6094. 01:06:11,877 --> 01:06:13,844
  6095. Yes, we've spoken
  6096. on the phone.
  6097.  
  6098. 1326
  6099. 01:06:13,846 --> 01:06:15,545
  6100. My voice should
  6101. sound familiar.
  6102.  
  6103. 1327
  6104. 01:06:15,547 --> 01:06:18,382
  6105. When did you
  6106. finish law school?
  6107.  
  6108. 1328
  6109. 01:06:18,384 --> 01:06:20,784
  6110. - I graduated...
  6111. - Rhetorical question.
  6112.  
  6113. 1329
  6114. 01:06:20,786 --> 01:06:22,920
  6115. You know,
  6116. the guy we had before you
  6117.  
  6118. 1330
  6119. 01:06:22,922 --> 01:06:24,889
  6120. is now Secretary of State.
  6121.  
  6122. 1331
  6123. 01:06:24,891 --> 01:06:27,690
  6124. I did not know that.
  6125.  
  6126. 1332
  6127. 01:06:27,692 --> 01:06:29,627
  6128. A little joke,
  6129. perhaps not the time.
  6130.  
  6131. 1333
  6132. 01:06:29,629 --> 01:06:31,228
  6133. What exactly
  6134. can I help you with...
  6135.  
  6136. 1334
  6137. 01:06:31,230 --> 01:06:34,063
  6138. So, why would the CIA Director
  6139. send a memo on war policy?
  6140.  
  6141. 1335
  6142. 01:06:34,065 --> 01:06:35,933
  6143. Because they weren't
  6144. calling it a war yet.
  6145.  
  6146. 1336
  6147. 01:06:35,935 --> 01:06:37,969
  6148. Okay, I've got
  6149. turkey with mustard.
  6150.  
  6151. 1337
  6152. 01:06:37,971 --> 01:06:39,237
  6153. Roast beef with horseradish.
  6154.  
  6155. 1338
  6156. 01:06:39,239 --> 01:06:41,771
  6157. - Howard, come look at this.
  6158. - Chal, you've gotta see this.
  6159.  
  6160. 1339
  6161. 01:06:41,773 --> 01:06:44,074
  6162. It's a full analysis
  6163. of McNamara's
  6164.  
  6165. 1340
  6166. 01:06:44,076 --> 01:06:45,143
  6167. changing view of the war.
  6168.  
  6169. 1341
  6170. 01:06:45,145 --> 01:06:46,543
  6171. Does it say anything
  6172. about why he does?
  6173.  
  6174. 1342
  6175. 01:06:46,545 --> 01:06:48,279
  6176. So we knew they were
  6177. gonna assassinate Diem.
  6178.  
  6179. 1343
  6180. 01:06:48,281 --> 01:06:49,779
  6181. Yeah, and we did
  6182. nothing to stop it.
  6183.  
  6184. 1344
  6185. 01:06:49,781 --> 01:06:51,616
  6186. I think I got something
  6187. on McNamara on the fireplace.
  6188.  
  6189. 1345
  6190. 01:06:51,618 --> 01:06:53,384
  6191. The other fireplace.
  6192.  
  6193. 1346
  6194. 01:06:54,754 --> 01:06:56,520
  6195. Murrey, where's
  6196. the back half of this one?
  6197.  
  6198. 1347
  6199. 01:06:56,522 --> 01:06:58,090
  6200. What's the thing
  6201. you just gave me?
  6202.  
  6203. 1348
  6204. 01:06:59,426 --> 01:07:01,092
  6205. Tell me these aren't
  6206. the classified documents
  6207.  
  6208. 1349
  6209. 01:07:01,094 --> 01:07:02,525
  6210. from the McNamara study.
  6211.  
  6212. 1350
  6213. 01:07:02,527 --> 01:07:04,329
  6214. 4,000 pages of 'em.
  6215.  
  6216. 1351
  6217. 01:07:04,331 --> 01:07:07,197
  6218. - Hungry?
  6219. - I need to use a phone.
  6220.  
  6221. 1352
  6222. 01:07:07,199 --> 01:07:09,299
  6223. There's one in the other room.
  6224.  
  6225. 1353
  6226. 01:07:09,301 --> 01:07:10,534
  6227. - Two.
  6228. - Is that it?
  6229.  
  6230. 1354
  6231. 01:07:10,536 --> 01:07:11,969
  6232. This is it. This is it.
  6233.  
  6234. 1355
  6235. 01:07:11,971 --> 01:07:13,436
  6236. Hmm?
  6237.  
  6238. 1356
  6239. 01:07:13,438 --> 01:07:15,271
  6240. This is
  6241. the other half of it.
  6242.  
  6243. 1357
  6244. 01:07:26,485 --> 01:07:28,654
  6245. Oh, my God.
  6246.  
  6247. 1358
  6248. 01:07:56,281 --> 01:07:59,583
  6249. Hi. Thanks for
  6250. letting me drop by.
  6251.  
  6252. 1359
  6253. 01:07:59,585 --> 01:08:01,918
  6254. - Marg still napping?
  6255. - Yeah.
  6256.  
  6257. 1360
  6258. 01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:03,587
  6259. Do you mind
  6260. if we talk in the sunroom?
  6261.  
  6262. 1361
  6263. 01:08:03,589 --> 01:08:05,023
  6264. Just so I can hear her
  6265. if she wakes.
  6266.  
  6267. 1362
  6268. 01:08:05,025 --> 01:08:06,958
  6269. No, of course not.
  6270. I can't stay long.
  6271.  
  6272. 1363
  6273. 01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:08,659
  6274. I've got a big event
  6275. at the house later.
  6276.  
  6277. 1364
  6278. 01:08:08,661 --> 01:08:11,630
  6279. I guess you've read
  6280. everything now.
  6281.  
  6282. 1365
  6283. 01:08:12,364 --> 01:08:14,331
  6284. Yes, I have. I have, yes.
  6285.  
  6286. 1366
  6287. 01:08:14,333 --> 01:08:16,502
  6288. And I went over it
  6289. again this morning.
  6290.  
  6291. 1367
  6292. 01:08:16,902 --> 01:08:18,505
  6293. All of it.
  6294.  
  6295. 1368
  6296. 01:08:19,471 --> 01:08:21,073
  6297. And I just...
  6298.  
  6299. 1369
  6300. 01:08:22,641 --> 01:08:26,979
  6301. Forgive me, Bob, I know you're
  6302. dealing with so much...
  6303.  
  6304. 1370
  6305. 01:08:28,648 --> 01:08:32,682
  6306. but it's just so hard to try
  6307. to make sense of why.
  6308.  
  6309. 1371
  6310. 01:08:32,684 --> 01:08:35,319
  6311. Of how you could have done
  6312. all these things.
  6313.  
  6314. 1372
  6315. 01:08:35,321 --> 01:08:37,254
  6316. How you could
  6317. just lie to us all.
  6318.  
  6319. 1373
  6320. 01:08:37,256 --> 01:08:41,858
  6321. Well, it's easy for the papers
  6322. to characterize us as liars.
  6323.  
  6324. 1374
  6325. 01:08:41,860 --> 01:08:44,094
  6326. We were just trying to
  6327. push back...
  6328.  
  6329. 1375
  6330. 01:08:44,096 --> 01:08:46,330
  6331. No, but you let it
  6332. go on and on and on.
  6333.  
  6334. 1376
  6335. 01:08:46,332 --> 01:08:49,232
  6336. My son is home now and safe,
  6337. thank God.
  6338.  
  6339. 1377
  6340. 01:08:49,234 --> 01:08:50,968
  6341. But you watched him go.
  6342.  
  6343. 1378
  6344. 01:08:50,970 --> 01:08:52,335
  6345. You knew
  6346. we couldn't win over there...
  6347.  
  6348. 1379
  6349. 01:08:52,337 --> 01:08:55,708
  6350. for years and years and years,
  6351. and yet you let me...
  6352.  
  6353. 1380
  6354. 01:08:56,943 --> 01:09:00,076
  6355. you let so many of our friends
  6356. send our boys off.
  6357.  
  6358. 1381
  6359. 01:09:00,078 --> 01:09:02,946
  6360. Kay, we were doing
  6361. the best we could.
  6362.  
  6363. 1382
  6364. 01:09:02,948 --> 01:09:06,249
  6365. It was domino theory,
  6366. containment...
  6367.  
  6368. 1383
  6369. 01:09:06,251 --> 01:09:07,785
  6370. and eventually we felt
  6371.  
  6372. 1384
  6373. 01:09:07,787 --> 01:09:09,719
  6374. that military pressure
  6375. was the only thing...
  6376.  
  6377. 1385
  6378. 01:09:09,721 --> 01:09:11,688
  6379. that was gonna drive
  6380. Ho Chi Minh to the table.
  6381.  
  6382. 1386
  6383. 01:09:11,690 --> 01:09:13,456
  6384. Our decision-making
  6385. process was...
  6386.  
  6387. 1387
  6388. 01:09:13,458 --> 01:09:15,095
  6389. Flawed.
  6390.  
  6391. 1388
  6392. 01:09:19,832 --> 01:09:23,136
  6393. It was flawed.
  6394. That's what your study said.
  6395.  
  6396. 1389
  6397. 01:09:24,938 --> 01:09:26,172
  6398. Yes.
  6399.  
  6400. 1390
  6401. 01:09:28,241 --> 01:09:33,279
  6402. I do believe that you were
  6403. trying to do your best...
  6404.  
  6405. 1391
  6406. 01:09:34,247 --> 01:09:36,781
  6407. and I know
  6408. how difficult it can be
  6409.  
  6410. 1392
  6411. 01:09:36,783 --> 01:09:39,049
  6412. to make choices that will...
  6413.  
  6414. 1393
  6415. 01:09:39,051 --> 01:09:41,684
  6416. That's kind of you.
  6417.  
  6418. 1394
  6419. 01:09:41,686 --> 01:09:45,324
  6420. Well, what comes next
  6421. might not be so kind.
  6422.  
  6423. 1395
  6424. 01:09:47,393 --> 01:09:49,459
  6425. You have the papers.
  6426.  
  6427. 1396
  6428. 01:09:51,330 --> 01:09:52,795
  6429. Let's just say...
  6430.  
  6431. 1397
  6432. 01:09:52,797 --> 01:09:56,335
  6433. I may have
  6434. a big decision to make.
  6435.  
  6436. 1398
  6437. 01:10:01,541 --> 01:10:03,206
  6438. They will
  6439. argue it's a violation
  6440.  
  6441. 1399
  6442. 01:10:03,208 --> 01:10:04,307
  6443. of the Espionage Act.
  6444.  
  6445. 1400
  6446. 01:10:04,309 --> 01:10:05,541
  6447. That is a felony, Ben.
  6448.  
  6449. 1401
  6450. 01:10:05,543 --> 01:10:07,477
  6451. That's only
  6452. if the documents we print
  6453.  
  6454. 1402
  6455. 01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:08,812
  6456. could damage
  6457. the United States.
  6458.  
  6459. 1403
  6460. 01:10:08,814 --> 01:10:10,647
  6461. There's a federal judge
  6462. in New York
  6463.  
  6464. 1404
  6465. 01:10:10,649 --> 01:10:11,815
  6466. who seems to think
  6467. that they could.
  6468.  
  6469. 1405
  6470. 01:10:11,817 --> 01:10:13,116
  6471. Well, I've got
  6472. six seasoned journalists
  6473.  
  6474. 1406
  6475. 01:10:13,118 --> 01:10:14,418
  6476. in the next room...
  6477.  
  6478. 1407
  6479. 01:10:14,420 --> 01:10:16,053
  6480. who've been reporting on this
  6481. war for the last ten years...
  6482.  
  6483. 1408
  6484. 01:10:16,055 --> 01:10:18,188
  6485. and I'll lay odds that they
  6486. have a better idea...
  6487.  
  6488. 1409
  6489. 01:10:18,190 --> 01:10:19,690
  6490. of what could damage
  6491. the United States
  6492.  
  6493. 1410
  6494. 01:10:19,692 --> 01:10:20,825
  6495. than some judge...
  6496.  
  6497. 1411
  6498. 01:10:20,827 --> 01:10:22,092
  6499. who is just now wading
  6500.  
  6501. 1412
  6502. 01:10:22,094 --> 01:10:23,826
  6503. into this territory
  6504. for the first time.
  6505.  
  6506. 1413
  6507. 01:10:23,828 --> 01:10:26,263
  6508. "Wading." Is that a metaphor
  6509. for Vietnam?
  6510.  
  6511. 1414
  6512. 01:10:26,265 --> 01:10:29,232
  6513. Okay. Ben, look, we know
  6514. your reporters are talented.
  6515.  
  6516. 1415
  6517. 01:10:29,234 --> 01:10:31,535
  6518. But The New York Times
  6519. spent three months
  6520.  
  6521. 1416
  6522. 01:10:31,537 --> 01:10:33,570
  6523. going over these documents.
  6524.  
  6525. 1417
  6526. 01:10:33,572 --> 01:10:35,405
  6527. You've got, what,
  6528. seven hours now
  6529.  
  6530. 1418
  6531. 01:10:35,407 --> 01:10:36,740
  6532. until the paper goes to press?
  6533.  
  6534. 1419
  6535. 01:10:36,742 --> 01:10:39,142
  6536. Can you honestly tell me
  6537. that that is enough time...
  6538.  
  6539. 1420
  6540. 01:10:39,144 --> 01:10:43,214
  6541. to make sure
  6542. not a single military plan,
  6543.  
  6544. 1421
  6545. 01:10:43,216 --> 01:10:44,347
  6546. not a single U.S. soldier...
  6547.  
  6548. 1422
  6549. 01:10:44,349 --> 01:10:47,250
  6550. not a single American life
  6551. will be put in harm's way?
  6552.  
  6553. 1423
  6554. 01:10:47,252 --> 01:10:48,852
  6555. That this will do no damage
  6556.  
  6557. 1424
  6558. 01:10:48,854 --> 01:10:51,088
  6559. to the United States
  6560. if you publish?
  6561.  
  6562. 1425
  6563. 01:10:51,090 --> 01:10:52,125
  6564. Yes.
  6565.  
  6566. 1426
  6567. 01:10:54,327 --> 01:10:55,860
  6568. You're sure about that?
  6569.  
  6570. 1427
  6571. 01:10:55,862 --> 01:10:56,826
  6572. No!
  6573.  
  6574. 1428
  6575. 01:10:56,828 --> 01:11:00,063
  6576. That's why
  6577. I've called you guys.
  6578.  
  6579. 1429
  6580. 01:11:00,065 --> 01:11:02,599
  6581. Look, Kay, I know
  6582. why The Times ran the story
  6583.  
  6584. 1430
  6585. 01:11:02,601 --> 01:11:04,201
  6586. but you need to understand...
  6587.  
  6588. 1431
  6589. 01:11:04,203 --> 01:11:05,669
  6590. the study was for posterity.
  6591.  
  6592. 1432
  6593. 01:11:05,671 --> 01:11:07,839
  6594. It was written for academics
  6595. in the future...
  6596.  
  6597. 1433
  6598. 01:11:07,841 --> 01:11:09,639
  6599. and right now we're still
  6600. in the middle of the war.
  6601.  
  6602. 1434
  6603. 01:11:09,641 --> 01:11:11,208
  6604. The papers can't be objective.
  6605.  
  6606. 1435
  6607. 01:11:11,210 --> 01:11:13,643
  6608. And I suppose the public
  6609. has a right to know...
  6610.  
  6611. 1436
  6612. 01:11:13,645 --> 01:11:15,913
  6613. but I would prefer
  6614. that the study
  6615.  
  6616. 1437
  6617. 01:11:15,915 --> 01:11:17,347
  6618. not be made
  6619. widely available...
  6620.  
  6621. 1438
  6622. 01:11:17,349 --> 01:11:20,418
  6623. until it can be read with some
  6624. perspective. You understand.
  6625.  
  6626. 1439
  6627. 01:11:20,420 --> 01:11:22,052
  6628. Mmm.
  6629.  
  6630. 1440
  6631. 01:11:24,890 --> 01:11:27,325
  6632. We've been through a lot,
  6633. haven't we?
  6634.  
  6635. 1441
  6636. 01:11:27,327 --> 01:11:30,761
  6637. You and Marg
  6638. were there for me...
  6639.  
  6640. 1442
  6641. 01:11:30,763 --> 01:11:32,963
  6642. at the lowest point
  6643. of my life.
  6644.  
  6645. 1443
  6646. 01:11:32,965 --> 01:11:36,566
  6647. You helped me, you selected
  6648. my entire board...
  6649.  
  6650. 1444
  6651. 01:11:36,568 --> 01:11:39,236
  6652. you're my most
  6653. trusted advisor...
  6654.  
  6655. 1445
  6656. 01:11:39,238 --> 01:11:40,839
  6657. my dear friend.
  6658.  
  6659. 1446
  6660. 01:11:41,774 --> 01:11:45,241
  6661. But my feelings about that
  6662. and about you...
  6663.  
  6664. 1447
  6665. 01:11:45,243 --> 01:11:48,946
  6666. can't be part of this decision
  6667. to publish or not.
  6668.  
  6669. 1448
  6670. 01:11:48,948 --> 01:11:53,517
  6671. I'm here
  6672. asking your advice, Bob...
  6673.  
  6674. 1449
  6675. 01:11:53,519 --> 01:11:56,253
  6676. not your permission.
  6677.  
  6678. 1450
  6679. 01:11:56,255 --> 01:11:59,222
  6680. Well, then as one of your
  6681. most trusted advisors...
  6682.  
  6683. 1451
  6684. 01:11:59,224 --> 01:12:01,526
  6685. and someone who knows how much
  6686. you care about this company...
  6687.  
  6688. 1452
  6689. 01:12:01,528 --> 01:12:02,659
  6690. I'm worried, Kay.
  6691.  
  6692. 1453
  6693. 01:12:02,661 --> 01:12:04,195
  6694. I worked in Washington
  6695. for ten years,
  6696.  
  6697. 1454
  6698. 01:12:04,197 --> 01:12:05,663
  6699. I've seen
  6700. these people up close.
  6701.  
  6702. 1455
  6703. 01:12:05,665 --> 01:12:07,964
  6704. Bobby and Lyndon,
  6705. they were tough customers,
  6706.  
  6707. 1456
  6708. 01:12:07,966 --> 01:12:10,066
  6709. but Nixon is different.
  6710.  
  6711. 1457
  6712. 01:12:10,068 --> 01:12:12,303
  6713. He's got some real bad
  6714. people around him.
  6715.  
  6716. 1458
  6717. 01:12:12,305 --> 01:12:14,539
  6718. And if you publish he'll
  6719. get the very worst of them.
  6720.  
  6721. 1459
  6722. 01:12:14,541 --> 01:12:15,772
  6723. The Colsons
  6724. and the Ehrlichmans
  6725.  
  6726. 1460
  6727. 01:12:15,774 --> 01:12:16,906
  6728. and he'll crush you.
  6729.  
  6730. 1461
  6731. 01:12:16,908 --> 01:12:18,275
  6732. I know he's just awful,
  6733. but I...
  6734.  
  6735. 1462
  6736. 01:12:18,277 --> 01:12:21,145
  6737. Nixon's a son of a bitch!
  6738. He hates you.
  6739.  
  6740. 1463
  6741. 01:12:21,147 --> 01:12:22,146
  6742. He hates Ben.
  6743.  
  6744. 1464
  6745. 01:12:22,148 --> 01:12:23,312
  6746. He's wanted to ruin
  6747. the paper for years...
  6748.  
  6749. 1465
  6750. 01:12:23,314 --> 01:12:26,116
  6751. and you will not get
  6752. a second chance, Kay.
  6753.  
  6754. 1466
  6755. 01:12:26,118 --> 01:12:28,017
  6756. The Richard Nixon I know
  6757. will muster
  6758.  
  6759. 1467
  6760. 01:12:28,019 --> 01:12:29,687
  6761. the full power
  6762. of the presidency...
  6763.  
  6764. 1468
  6765. 01:12:29,689 --> 01:12:31,688
  6766. and if there's a way
  6767. to destroy your paper,
  6768.  
  6769. 1469
  6770. 01:12:31,690 --> 01:12:33,992
  6771. by God, he'll find it.
  6772.  
  6773. 1470
  6774. 01:12:36,461 --> 01:12:38,829
  6775. Publish information
  6776. that harms national security.
  6777.  
  6778. 1471
  6779. 01:12:38,831 --> 01:12:40,062
  6780. I told you,
  6781. there is nothing in there.
  6782.  
  6783. 1472
  6784. 01:12:40,064 --> 01:12:41,965
  6785. If there is, the paper
  6786. will be prosecuted.
  6787.  
  6788. 1473
  6789. 01:12:41,967 --> 01:12:43,599
  6790. Isn't that why you're here?
  6791.  
  6792. 1474
  6793. 01:12:43,601 --> 01:12:45,035
  6794. Yes, Ben, but if we lose...
  6795.  
  6796. 1475
  6797. 01:12:45,037 --> 01:12:46,771
  6798. With what we pay you,
  6799. you really shouldn't lose.
  6800.  
  6801. 1476
  6802. 01:12:46,773 --> 01:12:47,838
  6803. Ben, you need
  6804. to listen to them.
  6805.  
  6806. 1477
  6807. 01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:48,972
  6808. Hey, Fritz.
  6809. Good to see you.
  6810.  
  6811. 1478
  6812. 01:12:48,974 --> 01:12:50,039
  6813. This is about
  6814. the future of the company
  6815.  
  6816. 1479
  6817. 01:12:50,041 --> 01:12:51,342
  6818. and ensuring there is one.
  6819.  
  6820. 1480
  6821. 01:12:51,344 --> 01:12:53,576
  6822. That's a little melodramatic,
  6823. don't you think?
  6824.  
  6825. 1481
  6826. 01:12:53,578 --> 01:12:54,977
  6827. Melodramatic?
  6828. You're talking about
  6829.  
  6830. 1482
  6831. 01:12:54,979 --> 01:12:58,081
  6832. exposing years
  6833. of government secrets.
  6834.  
  6835. 1483
  6836. 01:12:58,083 --> 01:13:00,717
  6837. I can't imagine they're
  6838. gonna take that lightly.
  6839.  
  6840. 1484
  6841. 01:13:00,719 --> 01:13:02,252
  6842. You could jeopardize
  6843. the public offering.
  6844.  
  6845. 1485
  6846. 01:13:02,254 --> 01:13:04,388
  6847. You could jeopardize
  6848. our television stations.
  6849.  
  6850. 1486
  6851. 01:13:04,390 --> 01:13:06,522
  6852. You know a felon can't
  6853. hold a broadcast license.
  6854.  
  6855. 1487
  6856. 01:13:06,524 --> 01:13:08,558
  6857. You think I give two shits
  6858. about the television stations?
  6859.  
  6860. 1488
  6861. 01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:09,625
  6862. You should.
  6863. They make a hell of
  6864.  
  6865. 1489
  6866. 01:13:09,627 --> 01:13:10,895
  6867. a lot more money
  6868. than you do...
  6869.  
  6870. 1490
  6871. 01:13:10,897 --> 01:13:13,196
  6872. and without that revenue
  6873. we'll be forced to sell.
  6874.  
  6875. 1491
  6876. 01:13:13,198 --> 01:13:15,264
  6877. If the government wins
  6878. and we're convicted...
  6879.  
  6880. 1492
  6881. 01:13:15,266 --> 01:13:18,134
  6882. The Washington Post as we
  6883. know it will cease to exist.
  6884.  
  6885. 1493
  6886. 01:13:18,136 --> 01:13:19,837
  6887. If we live in a world
  6888. where the government
  6889.  
  6890. 1494
  6891. 01:13:19,839 --> 01:13:21,605
  6892. can tell us what we can
  6893. and cannot print...
  6894.  
  6895. 1495
  6896. 01:13:21,607 --> 01:13:22,807
  6897. then The Washington Post
  6898. as we know it
  6899.  
  6900. 1496
  6901. 01:13:22,809 --> 01:13:25,110
  6902. has already ceased to exist.
  6903.  
  6904. 1497
  6905. 01:13:26,311 --> 01:13:28,014
  6906. What if we wait?
  6907.  
  6908. 1498
  6909. 01:13:28,881 --> 01:13:30,981
  6910. What if we hold off
  6911. on printing today
  6912.  
  6913. 1499
  6914. 01:13:30,983 --> 01:13:33,383
  6915. and instead we call
  6916. the Attorney General...
  6917.  
  6918. 1500
  6919. 01:13:33,385 --> 01:13:36,152
  6920. and we tell him that
  6921. we intend to print on Sunday?
  6922.  
  6923. 1501
  6924. 01:13:36,154 --> 01:13:37,855
  6925. That way we give
  6926. them and us time
  6927.  
  6928. 1502
  6929. 01:13:37,857 --> 01:13:40,090
  6930. to figure out
  6931. the legality of all of it...
  6932.  
  6933. 1503
  6934. 01:13:40,092 --> 01:13:42,593
  6935. while the court in New York
  6936. decides The Times' case.
  6937.  
  6938. 1504
  6939. 01:13:42,595 --> 01:13:45,062
  6940. You're suggesting we alert
  6941. the Attorney General...
  6942.  
  6943. 1505
  6944. 01:13:45,064 --> 01:13:47,330
  6945. to the fact that we
  6946. have these documents...
  6947.  
  6948. 1506
  6949. 01:13:47,332 --> 01:13:50,236
  6950. that we're going to print
  6951. in a few days?
  6952.  
  6953. 1507
  6954. 01:13:53,805 --> 01:13:57,007
  6955. Well, yes, that is the idea.
  6956.  
  6957. 1508
  6958. 01:13:57,009 --> 01:13:58,608
  6959. Yeah, well...
  6960.  
  6961. 1509
  6962. 01:13:58,610 --> 01:14:00,076
  6963. outside of
  6964. landing the Hindenburg
  6965.  
  6966. 1510
  6967. 01:14:00,078 --> 01:14:01,445
  6968. in a lightning storm...
  6969.  
  6970. 1511
  6971. 01:14:01,447 --> 01:14:03,746
  6972. that's about the shittiest
  6973. idea I've ever heard.
  6974.  
  6975. 1512
  6976. 01:14:03,748 --> 01:14:05,117
  6977. Oh, boy.
  6978.  
  6979. 1513
  6980. 01:14:12,724 --> 01:14:14,724
  6981. Oh, here's
  6982. the man of the hour.
  6983.  
  6984. 1514
  6985. 01:14:14,726 --> 01:14:16,459
  6986. Kay.
  6987.  
  6988. 1515
  6989. 01:14:16,461 --> 01:14:17,695
  6990. For you.
  6991.  
  6992. 1516
  6993. 01:14:17,697 --> 01:14:18,795
  6994. I'm found.
  6995.  
  6996. 1517
  6997. 01:14:18,797 --> 01:14:20,097
  6998. Thank you, Kay.
  6999.  
  7000. 1518
  7001. 01:14:20,099 --> 01:14:21,263
  7002. You didn't have to
  7003. go through all this trouble.
  7004.  
  7005. 1519
  7006. 01:14:21,265 --> 01:14:22,598
  7007. No, we had to turn them
  7008. away at the door.
  7009.  
  7010. 1520
  7011. 01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:23,733
  7012. Didn't we, dear?
  7013.  
  7014. 1521
  7015. 01:14:23,735 --> 01:14:24,867
  7016. - Thanks.
  7017. - Oh.
  7018.  
  7019. 1522
  7020. 01:14:24,869 --> 01:14:27,036
  7021. - Gene.
  7022. - Mrs. Graham.
  7023.  
  7024. 1523
  7025. 01:14:27,038 --> 01:14:29,272
  7026. So, everything okay?
  7027.  
  7028. 1524
  7029. 01:14:29,274 --> 01:14:32,541
  7030. Uh, it's gotten pretty hot
  7031. over at Ben's house.
  7032.  
  7033. 1525
  7034. 01:14:32,543 --> 01:14:34,945
  7035. Oh, things are
  7036. not going well?
  7037.  
  7038. 1526
  7039. 01:14:34,947 --> 01:14:38,816
  7040. No. Ben and Mr. Beebe
  7041. are at real loggerheads.
  7042.  
  7043. 1527
  7044. 01:14:38,818 --> 01:14:40,883
  7045. Fritz and Ben
  7046. on opposite sides?
  7047.  
  7048. 1528
  7049. 01:14:40,885 --> 01:14:41,985
  7050. I made a commitment
  7051. to publish these papers.
  7052.  
  7053. 1529
  7054. 01:14:41,987 --> 01:14:43,286
  7055. Excuse me. Pardon me.
  7056.  
  7057. 1530
  7058. 01:14:43,288 --> 01:14:45,022
  7059. The whole staff will revolt,
  7060. if we don't publish.
  7061.  
  7062. 1531
  7063. 01:14:45,024 --> 01:14:47,557
  7064. Meg, I hardly think
  7065. people are gonna resign.
  7066.  
  7067. 1532
  7068. 01:14:47,559 --> 01:14:48,691
  7069. Enjoying the fight?
  7070.  
  7071. 1533
  7072. 01:14:48,693 --> 01:14:50,093
  7073. Yeah, who's winning?
  7074.  
  7075. 1534
  7076. 01:14:50,095 --> 01:14:52,195
  7077. - Nixon.
  7078. - I didn't see him come in.
  7079.  
  7080. 1535
  7081. 01:14:52,197 --> 01:14:55,134
  7082. Really? He's got his hand
  7083. so far up Fritz's ass.
  7084.  
  7085. 1536
  7086. 01:14:56,501 --> 01:14:57,903
  7087. Where is Fritz?
  7088.  
  7089. 1537
  7090. 01:15:00,005 --> 01:15:02,672
  7091. That is not at all
  7092. what I'm saying. No.
  7093.  
  7094. 1538
  7095. 01:15:02,674 --> 01:15:04,540
  7096. Not in so many words,
  7097. but you're a bunch of lawyers.
  7098.  
  7099. 1539
  7100. 01:15:04,542 --> 01:15:05,409
  7101. Will you cut through the shit!
  7102.  
  7103. 1540
  7104. 01:15:05,411 --> 01:15:06,776
  7105. Is the profanity necessary?
  7106.  
  7107. 1541
  7108. 01:15:06,778 --> 01:15:07,878
  7109. If we're not gonna publish,
  7110.  
  7111. 1542
  7112. 01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:09,847
  7113. why are we busting
  7114. our rear ends, Ben?
  7115.  
  7116. 1543
  7117. 01:15:09,849 --> 01:15:11,615
  7118. Just keep writing.
  7119.  
  7120. 1544
  7121. 01:15:12,917 --> 01:15:15,285
  7122. Can you stop
  7123. playing Chopsticks?
  7124.  
  7125. 1545
  7126. 01:15:15,287 --> 01:15:17,657
  7127. We're not gonna get it wrong!
  7128.  
  7129. 1546
  7130. 01:15:20,193 --> 01:15:22,061
  7131. What's up there, Fritz?
  7132.  
  7133. 1547
  7134. 01:15:22,595 --> 01:15:24,928
  7135. Calling Kay.
  7136.  
  7137. 1548
  7138. 01:15:24,930 --> 01:15:27,998
  7139. I'm sorry, Ben.
  7140. I know you want this.
  7141.  
  7142. 1549
  7143. 01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,601
  7144. There will be another one.
  7145.  
  7146. 1550
  7147. 01:15:30,603 --> 01:15:32,968
  7148. Like hell there will be.
  7149.  
  7150. 1551
  7151. 01:15:32,970 --> 01:15:34,804
  7152. Given the
  7153. sensitive circumstances...
  7154.  
  7155. 1552
  7156. 01:15:34,806 --> 01:15:36,406
  7157. Sensitive circumstances?
  7158. Really?
  7159.  
  7160. 1553
  7161. 01:15:36,408 --> 01:15:38,075
  7162. How would you describe it?
  7163.  
  7164. 1554
  7165. 01:15:38,077 --> 01:15:41,044
  7166. Uh, well,
  7167. we're trying to make a story.
  7168.  
  7169. 1555
  7170. 01:15:41,046 --> 01:15:43,580
  7171. Hello. Hello, I'm
  7172. making a telephone call.
  7173.  
  7174. 1556
  7175. 01:15:43,582 --> 01:15:45,382
  7176. Yeah, well, it's my house.
  7177.  
  7178. 1557
  7179. 01:15:45,384 --> 01:15:48,084
  7180. - So I'll be on the call.
  7181. - All right, Ben.
  7182.  
  7183. 1558
  7184. 01:15:48,086 --> 01:15:52,722
  7185. I just want to thank you all
  7186. for coming out this evening...
  7187.  
  7188. 1559
  7189. 01:15:52,724 --> 01:15:55,659
  7190. to help me launch
  7191. Harry Gladstein...
  7192.  
  7193. 1560
  7194. 01:15:55,661 --> 01:15:57,828
  7195. and his new sailboat...
  7196.  
  7197. 1561
  7198. 01:15:57,830 --> 01:16:00,265
  7199. into the Chesapeake Bay.
  7200.  
  7201. 1562
  7202. 01:16:01,867 --> 01:16:05,436
  7203. And into his
  7204. very well earned retirement.
  7205.  
  7206. 1563
  7207. 01:16:05,438 --> 01:16:07,538
  7208. Let me just tell you
  7209. a little bit about
  7210.  
  7211. 1564
  7212. 01:16:07,540 --> 01:16:09,940
  7213. why I'm so wild about Harry.
  7214.  
  7215. 1565
  7216. 01:16:09,942 --> 01:16:12,942
  7217. Mrs. Graham.
  7218. It's Mr. Beebe on the phone.
  7219.  
  7220. 1566
  7221. 01:16:12,944 --> 01:16:16,013
  7222. In 1949, wasn't it?
  7223.  
  7224. 1567
  7225. 01:16:16,015 --> 01:16:19,682
  7226. Uh, Phil Graham first brought
  7227. Harry to the company.
  7228.  
  7229. 1568
  7230. 01:16:19,684 --> 01:16:22,652
  7231. - I'm afraid they need you now.
  7232. - And I remember, he told me...
  7233.  
  7234. 1569
  7235. 01:16:22,654 --> 01:16:23,954
  7236. Mrs. Graham.
  7237.  
  7238. 1570
  7239. 01:16:23,956 --> 01:16:25,558
  7240. They need you now.
  7241.  
  7242. 1571
  7243. 01:16:27,893 --> 01:16:31,195
  7244. Oh, dear. I'm so sorry.
  7245.  
  7246. 1572
  7247. 01:16:31,197 --> 01:16:33,129
  7248. - Forgive me, Harry.
  7249. - Yeah.
  7250.  
  7251. 1573
  7252. 01:16:33,131 --> 01:16:35,097
  7253. I think I'll have to suspend.
  7254.  
  7255. 1574
  7256. 01:16:35,099 --> 01:16:37,433
  7257. Well, you're paying
  7258. the overtime.
  7259.  
  7260. 1575
  7261. 01:16:37,435 --> 01:16:39,803
  7262. I'll be right back.
  7263.  
  7264. 1576
  7265. 01:16:39,805 --> 01:16:41,541
  7266. I'm so sorry, Mrs. Graham.
  7267.  
  7268. 1577
  7269. 01:16:41,907 --> 01:16:43,374
  7270. Yeah.
  7271.  
  7272. 1578
  7273. 01:16:43,376 --> 01:16:44,642
  7274. We should wait.
  7275.  
  7276. 1579
  7277. 01:16:44,644 --> 01:16:48,381
  7278. Yeah, I understand, Ben,
  7279. but if you wait a day...
  7280.  
  7281. 1580
  7282. 01:16:49,480 --> 01:16:52,215
  7283. - Fritz on the phone for me?
  7284. - We should be on this call.
  7285.  
  7286. 1581
  7287. 01:16:52,217 --> 01:16:54,550
  7288. Well, there's an extension
  7289. in the living room.
  7290.  
  7291. 1582
  7292. 01:16:54,552 --> 01:16:57,622
  7293. Liz, show them where, please?
  7294. Thank you.
  7295.  
  7296. 1583
  7297. 01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:09,031
  7298. Hello, Fritz?
  7299.  
  7300. 1584
  7301. 01:17:09,033 --> 01:17:11,434
  7302. Hello, Kay. Would you like me
  7303. to catch you up?
  7304.  
  7305. 1585
  7306. 01:17:11,436 --> 01:17:12,770
  7307. I say we can,
  7308. he says we can't.
  7309.  
  7310. 1586
  7311. 01:17:12,772 --> 01:17:13,904
  7312. There, you're caught up.
  7313.  
  7314. 1587
  7315. 01:17:13,906 --> 01:17:15,539
  7316. - Ben...
  7317. - Hello, it's Art.
  7318.  
  7319. 1588
  7320. 01:17:15,541 --> 01:17:18,275
  7321. Well, Ben,
  7322. there are concerns here
  7323.  
  7324. 1589
  7325. 01:17:18,277 --> 01:17:20,309
  7326. that are frankly
  7327. above your pay grade.
  7328.  
  7329. 1590
  7330. 01:17:20,311 --> 01:17:22,045
  7331. Well, there's
  7332. a few above yours, Art,
  7333.  
  7334. 1591
  7335. 01:17:22,047 --> 01:17:23,414
  7336. like fucking freedom
  7337. of the press.
  7338.  
  7339. 1592
  7340. 01:17:23,416 --> 01:17:25,316
  7341. Let's just be civil if we can.
  7342.  
  7343. 1593
  7344. 01:17:25,318 --> 01:17:27,349
  7345. Do you think
  7346. Nixon is going to be civil?
  7347.  
  7348. 1594
  7349. 01:17:27,351 --> 01:17:30,087
  7350. He is trying to censor the
  7351. goddamn New York Times.
  7352.  
  7353. 1595
  7354. 01:17:30,089 --> 01:17:31,821
  7355. Yes, The Times, not The Post.
  7356.  
  7357. 1596
  7358. 01:17:31,823 --> 01:17:33,456
  7359. It's the same damn thing.
  7360.  
  7361. 1597
  7362. 01:17:33,458 --> 01:17:37,427
  7363. This is an historic fight.
  7364. If they lose, we lose.
  7365.  
  7366. 1598
  7367. 01:17:37,429 --> 01:17:39,295
  7368. Hello? Is someone
  7369. on the phone?
  7370.  
  7371. 1599
  7372. 01:17:39,297 --> 01:17:40,731
  7373. This is Phil.
  7374.  
  7375. 1600
  7376. 01:17:40,733 --> 01:17:42,365
  7377. Is that Phil Geyelin?
  7378.  
  7379. 1601
  7380. 01:17:42,367 --> 01:17:44,602
  7381. Uh, yes, Mrs. Graham.
  7382.  
  7383. 1602
  7384. 01:17:44,604 --> 01:17:47,170
  7385. Good. I'd like you to weigh in
  7386. if you would...
  7387.  
  7388. 1603
  7389. 01:17:47,172 --> 01:17:48,370
  7390. because I wanna know
  7391.  
  7392. 1604
  7393. 01:17:48,372 --> 01:17:50,507
  7394. what the staff
  7395. is feeling about this.
  7396.  
  7397. 1605
  7398. 01:17:50,509 --> 01:17:53,276
  7399. Uh, well,
  7400. frankly Mrs. Graham...
  7401.  
  7402. 1606
  7403. 01:17:53,278 --> 01:17:55,279
  7404. Ben Bagdikian and Chal Roberts
  7405.  
  7406. 1607
  7407. 01:17:55,281 --> 01:17:58,013
  7408. have, uh, both
  7409. threatened to resign...
  7410.  
  7411. 1608
  7412. 01:17:58,015 --> 01:18:00,183
  7413. if we don't publish, that is.
  7414.  
  7415. 1609
  7416. 01:18:00,185 --> 01:18:01,651
  7417. Come on, Kay,
  7418. what do you expect?
  7419.  
  7420. 1610
  7421. 01:18:01,653 --> 01:18:02,518
  7422. They got nothing to lose.
  7423.  
  7424. 1611
  7425. 01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:04,120
  7426. Due respect,
  7427. we all have everything
  7428.  
  7429. 1612
  7430. 01:18:04,122 --> 01:18:05,522
  7431. to lose if we don't publish.
  7432.  
  7433. 1613
  7434. 01:18:05,524 --> 01:18:08,392
  7435. What will happen to the
  7436. reputation of this paper?
  7437.  
  7438. 1614
  7439. 01:18:08,394 --> 01:18:10,593
  7440. Everyone will find out
  7441. we had the study.
  7442.  
  7443. 1615
  7444. 01:18:10,595 --> 01:18:12,629
  7445. Hell, I bet half the town
  7446. knows already.
  7447.  
  7448. 1616
  7449. 01:18:12,631 --> 01:18:14,798
  7450. What will it look like
  7451. if we sit on our asses?
  7452.  
  7453. 1617
  7454. 01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:16,400
  7455. It'll look like
  7456. we were prudent.
  7457.  
  7458. 1618
  7459. 01:18:16,402 --> 01:18:18,134
  7460. It will look like
  7461. we were afraid!
  7462.  
  7463. 1619
  7464. 01:18:18,136 --> 01:18:21,271
  7465. We will lose! The country
  7466. will lose! Nixon wins!
  7467.  
  7468. 1620
  7469. 01:18:21,273 --> 01:18:23,139
  7470. Nixon wins this one,
  7471. and the next one...
  7472.  
  7473. 1621
  7474. 01:18:23,141 --> 01:18:25,107
  7475. and all the ones after that,
  7476. because we were scared.
  7477.  
  7478. 1622
  7479. 01:18:25,109 --> 01:18:26,375
  7480. Because the only way to assert
  7481.  
  7482. 1623
  7483. 01:18:26,377 --> 01:18:28,648
  7484. the right to publish
  7485. is to publish.
  7486.  
  7487. 1624
  7488. 01:18:33,452 --> 01:18:34,651
  7489. Fritz.
  7490.  
  7491. 1625
  7492. 01:18:34,653 --> 01:18:36,855
  7493. Is Fritz there?
  7494.  
  7495. 1626
  7496. 01:18:38,689 --> 01:18:41,090
  7497. Fritz, are you on?
  7498.  
  7499. 1627
  7500. 01:18:41,092 --> 01:18:43,095
  7501. I'm here, Kay.
  7502.  
  7503. 1628
  7504. 01:18:45,864 --> 01:18:48,100
  7505. What do you think?
  7506.  
  7507. 1629
  7508. 01:18:49,367 --> 01:18:52,538
  7509. What do you think I should do?
  7510.  
  7511. 1630
  7512. 01:18:54,540 --> 01:18:56,507
  7513. I think...
  7514.  
  7515. 1631
  7516. 01:18:56,509 --> 01:18:59,442
  7517. there are arguments
  7518. on both sides.
  7519.  
  7520. 1632
  7521. 01:18:59,444 --> 01:19:00,446
  7522. Yeah.
  7523.  
  7524. 1633
  7525. 01:19:02,948 --> 01:19:05,151
  7526. But I guess
  7527. I wouldn't publish.
  7528.  
  7529. 1634
  7530. 01:19:28,140 --> 01:19:30,540
  7531. Let's go.
  7532. Let's do it.
  7533.  
  7534. 1635
  7535. 01:19:30,542 --> 01:19:34,779
  7536. Let's go. Let's go, let's go.
  7537. Let's publish.
  7538.  
  7539. 1636
  7540. 01:19:38,884 --> 01:19:40,616
  7541. - What?
  7542. - Phil?
  7543.  
  7544. 1637
  7545. 01:19:40,618 --> 01:19:42,287
  7546. What'd she say?
  7547.  
  7548. 1638
  7549. 01:19:42,955 --> 01:19:44,524
  7550. We go.
  7551.  
  7552. 1639
  7553. 01:19:46,224 --> 01:19:48,291
  7554. She says, we publish.
  7555.  
  7556. 1640
  7557. 01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:50,427
  7558. - Hot damn.
  7559. - My God.
  7560.  
  7561. 1641
  7562. 01:19:50,429 --> 01:19:52,228
  7563. - Holy shit.
  7564. - Let's get this out.
  7565.  
  7566. 1642
  7567. 01:19:52,230 --> 01:19:54,197
  7568. Holy shit.
  7569.  
  7570. 1643
  7571. 01:19:54,199 --> 01:19:55,465
  7572. - I need that, Meg.
  7573. - Sorry.
  7574.  
  7575. 1644
  7576. 01:19:55,467 --> 01:19:56,733
  7577. Whoa, whoa, whoa!
  7578. Hold your horses.
  7579.  
  7580. 1645
  7581. 01:19:56,735 --> 01:19:57,968
  7582. - I need the notes!
  7583. - Sorry.
  7584.  
  7585. 1646
  7586. 01:19:57,970 --> 01:19:59,335
  7587. - How many pages is it?
  7588. - 13.
  7589.  
  7590. 1647
  7591. 01:19:59,337 --> 01:20:00,971
  7592. We got two hours to get it
  7593. to the composing room.
  7594.  
  7595. 1648
  7596. 01:20:00,973 --> 01:20:03,139
  7597. I got it! Almost!
  7598. Wait one moment. I'm typing.
  7599.  
  7600. 1649
  7601. 01:20:03,141 --> 01:20:04,609
  7602. All right.
  7603.  
  7604. 1650
  7605. 01:20:05,577 --> 01:20:06,910
  7606. - Wait, wait, wait.
  7607. - Who's taking it?
  7608.  
  7609. 1651
  7610. 01:20:06,912 --> 01:20:08,078
  7611. I got it.
  7612.  
  7613. 1652
  7614. 01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:09,245
  7615. Call National desk.
  7616.  
  7617. 1653
  7618. 01:20:09,247 --> 01:20:10,880
  7619. Tell them Bagdikian
  7620. is coming with the story.
  7621.  
  7622. 1654
  7623. 01:20:10,882 --> 01:20:12,214
  7624. Done!
  7625.  
  7626. 1655
  7627. 01:20:12,216 --> 01:20:13,983
  7628. All right.
  7629. Get it in the paper.
  7630.  
  7631. 1656
  7632. 01:20:13,985 --> 01:20:15,486
  7633. Editorial meeting.
  7634.  
  7635. 1657
  7636. 01:20:15,488 --> 01:20:18,053
  7637. - Ben?
  7638. - Yeah? Thanks.
  7639.  
  7640. 1658
  7641. 01:20:18,055 --> 01:20:20,324
  7642. Good job, Murrey.
  7643.  
  7644. 1659
  7645. 01:20:26,832 --> 01:20:29,098
  7646. - That it?
  7647. - That's it.
  7648.  
  7649. 1660
  7650. 01:20:39,244 --> 01:20:41,680
  7651. You... You got half an hour.
  7652.  
  7653. 1661
  7654. 01:20:52,625 --> 01:20:55,124
  7655. I'm not sure how much thought
  7656.  
  7657. 1662
  7658. 01:20:55,126 --> 01:20:56,825
  7659. you've put
  7660. into this decision...
  7661.  
  7662. 1663
  7663. 01:20:56,827 --> 01:20:57,761
  7664. but we still have time.
  7665.  
  7666. 1664
  7667. 01:20:57,763 --> 01:20:59,596
  7668. The print deadline
  7669. is not 'til midnight.
  7670.  
  7671. 1665
  7672. 01:20:59,598 --> 01:21:01,731
  7673. I know when the
  7674. print deadline is.
  7675.  
  7676. 1666
  7677. 01:21:01,733 --> 01:21:03,700
  7678. Look, I'm still learning
  7679. how to do this,
  7680.  
  7681. 1667
  7682. 01:21:03,702 --> 01:21:05,302
  7683. but everything
  7684. I know about business...
  7685.  
  7686. 1668
  7687. 01:21:05,304 --> 01:21:07,803
  7688. tells me you're making
  7689. a serious mistake here.
  7690.  
  7691. 1669
  7692. 01:21:07,805 --> 01:21:09,672
  7693. One that will cost you
  7694. and your paper dearly,
  7695.  
  7696. 1670
  7697. 01:21:09,674 --> 01:21:11,674
  7698. and hurt every person
  7699. gathered here.
  7700.  
  7701. 1671
  7702. 01:21:11,676 --> 01:21:14,444
  7703. Not to mention, the hundreds
  7704. of others who work for you.
  7705.  
  7706. 1672
  7707. 01:21:14,446 --> 01:21:16,446
  7708. I'm just trying to put
  7709. my thoughts together.
  7710.  
  7711. 1673
  7712. 01:21:16,448 --> 01:21:19,014
  7713. Kay, all I want is
  7714. what is best
  7715.  
  7716. 1674
  7717. 01:21:19,016 --> 01:21:20,950
  7718. for you and your business.
  7719.  
  7720. 1675
  7721. 01:21:20,952 --> 01:21:23,852
  7722. But I just got off the phone
  7723. with a couple of bankers...
  7724.  
  7725. 1676
  7726. 01:21:23,854 --> 01:21:26,990
  7727. and they think it's possible,
  7728. likely even...
  7729.  
  7730. 1677
  7731. 01:21:26,992 --> 01:21:29,625
  7732. that a number of their
  7733. institutional investors...
  7734.  
  7735. 1678
  7736. 01:21:29,627 --> 01:21:31,727
  7737. will pull out
  7738. if you go ahead and publish.
  7739.  
  7740. 1679
  7741. 01:21:31,729 --> 01:21:35,267
  7742. And if they pull out, Kay...
  7743.  
  7744. 1680
  7745. 01:21:36,201 --> 01:21:38,604
  7746. You got a couple of hours.
  7747.  
  7748. 1681
  7749. 01:21:39,037 --> 01:21:40,270
  7750. For your sake,
  7751.  
  7752. 1682
  7753. 01:21:40,272 --> 01:21:42,438
  7754. and for the sake of every one
  7755. of your employees...
  7756.  
  7757. 1683
  7758. 01:21:42,440 --> 01:21:44,376
  7759. I hope you will reconsider.
  7760.  
  7761. 1684
  7762. 01:21:51,783 --> 01:21:53,518
  7763. Give me the canister.
  7764.  
  7765. 1685
  7766. 01:21:59,091 --> 01:22:00,257
  7767. Get it downstairs...
  7768.  
  7769. 1686
  7770. 01:22:00,259 --> 01:22:02,125
  7771. and I want the page editor
  7772. standing over Lino
  7773.  
  7774. 1687
  7775. 01:22:02,127 --> 01:22:03,660
  7776. 'til they got it
  7777. ready to print.
  7778.  
  7779. 1688
  7780. 01:22:03,662 --> 01:22:04,664
  7781. Okay.
  7782.  
  7783. 1689
  7784. 01:22:08,233 --> 01:22:09,968
  7785. Mr. Bagdikian.
  7786.  
  7787. 1690
  7788. 01:22:15,241 --> 01:22:17,706
  7789. I need to know your source.
  7790.  
  7791. 1691
  7792. 01:22:17,708 --> 01:22:20,442
  7793. I thought I was clear earlier.
  7794.  
  7795. 1692
  7796. 01:22:20,444 --> 01:22:22,779
  7797. Well, we weren't
  7798. going to press earlier.
  7799.  
  7800. 1693
  7801. 01:22:22,781 --> 01:22:25,548
  7802. Yeah, well,
  7803. my answer's the same.
  7804.  
  7805. 1694
  7806. 01:22:25,550 --> 01:22:27,584
  7807. "This action has been
  7808. commenced to enjoin
  7809.  
  7810. 1695
  7811. 01:22:27,586 --> 01:22:29,419
  7812. "The New York Times
  7813. and their agents...
  7814.  
  7815. 1696
  7816. 01:22:29,421 --> 01:22:31,221
  7817. "from further
  7818. disseminating or disclosing
  7819.  
  7820. 1697
  7821. 01:22:31,223 --> 01:22:32,621
  7822. "certain alleged
  7823. top secret documents."
  7824.  
  7825. 1698
  7826. 01:22:32,623 --> 01:22:34,691
  7827. Are you trying
  7828. to piss me off?
  7829.  
  7830. 1699
  7831. 01:22:34,693 --> 01:22:36,526
  7832. No. Not me.
  7833. Judge Gurfein.
  7834.  
  7835. 1700
  7836. 01:22:36,528 --> 01:22:38,460
  7837. If you look at the text
  7838. of his restraining order...
  7839.  
  7840. 1701
  7841. 01:22:38,462 --> 01:22:40,563
  7842. I read his restraining order.
  7843.  
  7844. 1702
  7845. 01:22:40,565 --> 01:22:42,566
  7846. So then you know that if
  7847. The Times was your source...
  7848.  
  7849. 1703
  7850. 01:22:42,568 --> 01:22:44,233
  7851. we would be in
  7852. direct violation...
  7853.  
  7854. 1704
  7855. 01:22:44,235 --> 01:22:47,170
  7856. I did not get the study
  7857. from The Times.
  7858.  
  7859. 1705
  7860. 01:22:47,172 --> 01:22:48,373
  7861. You're sure?
  7862.  
  7863. 1706
  7864. 01:22:49,207 --> 01:22:50,776
  7865. We done?
  7866.  
  7867. 1707
  7868. 01:22:54,278 --> 01:22:56,748
  7869. Did you get it
  7870. from their source?
  7871.  
  7872. 1708
  7873. 01:23:03,689 --> 01:23:05,124
  7874. Excuse me?
  7875.  
  7876. 1709
  7877. 01:23:08,025 --> 01:23:10,125
  7878. Did you get the study
  7879.  
  7880. 1710
  7881. 01:23:10,127 --> 01:23:12,797
  7882. from the same source
  7883. as The Times?
  7884.  
  7885. 1711
  7886. 01:23:15,134 --> 01:23:18,601
  7887. We do not reveal
  7888. our sources.
  7889.  
  7890. 1712
  7891. 01:23:18,603 --> 01:23:20,637
  7892. "This action has been
  7893. commenced to enjoin
  7894.  
  7895. 1713
  7896. 01:23:20,639 --> 01:23:22,504
  7897. "The New York Times
  7898. and its agents..."
  7899.  
  7900. 1714
  7901. 01:23:22,506 --> 01:23:24,109
  7902. I get it!
  7903. I get it!
  7904.  
  7905. 1715
  7906. 01:23:27,645 --> 01:23:30,013
  7907. If you got the study
  7908. from the same source
  7909.  
  7910. 1716
  7911. 01:23:30,015 --> 01:23:31,748
  7912. that would
  7913. amount to collusion.
  7914.  
  7915. 1717
  7916. 01:23:31,750 --> 01:23:34,854
  7917. Yeah, we could
  7918. all be executed at dawn.
  7919.  
  7920. 1718
  7921. 01:23:35,854 --> 01:23:38,989
  7922. And we could be held
  7923. in contempt of court...
  7924.  
  7925. 1719
  7926. 01:23:38,991 --> 01:23:42,728
  7927. which means Mr. Bradlee and
  7928. Mrs. Graham could go to jail.
  7929.  
  7930. 1720
  7931. 01:23:46,431 --> 01:23:48,466
  7932. Mr. Bagdikian...
  7933.  
  7934. 1721
  7935. 01:23:49,467 --> 01:23:52,936
  7936. how likely is it
  7937. that your source...
  7938.  
  7939. 1722
  7940. 01:23:52,938 --> 01:23:55,841
  7941. and The Times source
  7942. are the same person?
  7943.  
  7944. 1723
  7945. 01:23:57,442 --> 01:23:59,444
  7946. It's likely.
  7947.  
  7948. 1724
  7949. 01:24:00,946 --> 01:24:02,614
  7950. How likely?
  7951.  
  7952. 1725
  7953. 01:24:04,882 --> 01:24:06,682
  7954. Very.
  7955.  
  7956. 1726
  7957. 01:24:06,684 --> 01:24:08,754
  7958. - It's very likely.
  7959. - Yes.
  7960.  
  7961. 1727
  7962. 01:24:19,898 --> 01:24:22,065
  7963. What is all this?
  7964.  
  7965. 1728
  7966. 01:24:22,067 --> 01:24:24,867
  7967. Lemonade earnings.
  7968.  
  7969. 1729
  7970. 01:24:24,869 --> 01:24:28,103
  7971. Marina wanted me to
  7972. put it away for safekeeping.
  7973.  
  7974. 1730
  7975. 01:24:28,105 --> 01:24:29,442
  7976. Oh, wow.
  7977.  
  7978. 1731
  7979. 01:24:34,144 --> 01:24:35,980
  7980. We're publishing.
  7981.  
  7982. 1732
  7983. 01:24:39,684 --> 01:24:40,819
  7984. Wow.
  7985.  
  7986. 1733
  7987. 01:24:43,388 --> 01:24:45,824
  7988. I didn't think Kay'd do it.
  7989.  
  7990. 1734
  7991. 01:24:48,460 --> 01:24:50,927
  7992. That's brave.
  7993.  
  7994. 1735
  7995. 01:24:50,929 --> 01:24:53,897
  7996. Well, she's not the only one
  7997. who's brave.
  7998.  
  7999. 1736
  8000. 01:24:53,899 --> 01:24:55,164
  8001. Oh.
  8002.  
  8003. 1737
  8004. 01:24:55,166 --> 01:24:57,299
  8005. What have you got to lose?
  8006.  
  8007. 1738
  8008. 01:24:57,301 --> 01:24:59,035
  8009. Uh, my job.
  8010.  
  8011. 1739
  8012. 01:24:59,037 --> 01:25:00,437
  8013. My reputation.
  8014.  
  8015. 1740
  8016. 01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:02,141
  8017. Oh, Ben, please.
  8018.  
  8019. 1741
  8020. 01:25:03,308 --> 01:25:05,441
  8021. We both know
  8022. this will do nothing
  8023.  
  8024. 1742
  8025. 01:25:05,443 --> 01:25:08,445
  8026. but burnish your reputation.
  8027.  
  8028. 1743
  8029. 01:25:08,447 --> 01:25:10,313
  8030. And as for your job...
  8031.  
  8032. 1744
  8033. 01:25:10,315 --> 01:25:12,585
  8034. you can always
  8035. find another one.
  8036.  
  8037. 1745
  8038. 01:25:13,618 --> 01:25:16,852
  8039. Now, if you're trying to
  8040. make me feel better...
  8041.  
  8042. 1746
  8043. 01:25:16,854 --> 01:25:19,791
  8044. there's nicer ways
  8045. of doing it.
  8046.  
  8047. 1747
  8048. 01:25:21,225 --> 01:25:23,228
  8049. You're very brave.
  8050.  
  8051. 1748
  8052. 01:25:25,197 --> 01:25:27,830
  8053. But Kay...
  8054.  
  8055. 1749
  8056. 01:25:27,832 --> 01:25:32,369
  8057. Kay is in a position
  8058. she never thought she'd be in.
  8059.  
  8060. 1750
  8061. 01:25:32,371 --> 01:25:34,337
  8062. A position
  8063. I'm sure plenty of people
  8064.  
  8065. 1751
  8066. 01:25:34,339 --> 01:25:37,106
  8067. don't think she should have.
  8068.  
  8069. 1752
  8070. 01:25:37,108 --> 01:25:39,409
  8071. And when you're told
  8072. time and time again
  8073.  
  8074. 1753
  8075. 01:25:39,411 --> 01:25:41,477
  8076. that you're not good enough.
  8077.  
  8078. 1754
  8079. 01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:44,947
  8080. That your opinion
  8081. doesn't matter as much.
  8082.  
  8083. 1755
  8084. 01:25:44,949 --> 01:25:48,651
  8085. When they don't
  8086. just look past you.
  8087.  
  8088. 1756
  8089. 01:25:48,653 --> 01:25:52,589
  8090. When, to them,
  8091. you're not even there.
  8092.  
  8093. 1757
  8094. 01:25:52,591 --> 01:25:54,757
  8095. When that's been your
  8096. reality for so long...
  8097.  
  8098. 1758
  8099. 01:25:54,759 --> 01:25:57,796
  8100. it's hard not to let
  8101. yourself think it's true.
  8102.  
  8103. 1759
  8104. 01:25:58,764 --> 01:26:01,998
  8105. So, to make this decision...
  8106.  
  8107. 1760
  8108. 01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:04,733
  8109. to risk her fortune
  8110. and the company
  8111.  
  8112. 1761
  8113. 01:26:04,735 --> 01:26:07,206
  8114. that's been her entire life...
  8115.  
  8116. 1762
  8117. 01:26:08,540 --> 01:26:10,775
  8118. well, I think that's brave.
  8119.  
  8120. 1763
  8121. 01:26:17,149 --> 01:26:18,014
  8122. Bradlee.
  8123.  
  8124. 1764
  8125. 01:26:18,016 --> 01:26:20,685
  8126. Ben, we got a problem.
  8127.  
  8128. 1765
  8129. 01:26:31,229 --> 01:26:33,098
  8130. You remember this?
  8131.  
  8132. 1766
  8133. 01:26:34,966 --> 01:26:37,034
  8134. - The day before the funeral.
  8135. - Yeah.
  8136.  
  8137. 1767
  8138. 01:26:37,036 --> 01:26:38,237
  8139. Wasn't it?
  8140.  
  8141. 1768
  8142. 01:26:39,004 --> 01:26:40,171
  8143. Yeah.
  8144.  
  8145. 1769
  8146. 01:26:41,707 --> 01:26:42,839
  8147. I didn't...
  8148.  
  8149. 1770
  8150. 01:26:42,841 --> 01:26:45,508
  8151. I didn't wanna do it...
  8152.  
  8153. 1771
  8154. 01:26:45,510 --> 01:26:48,011
  8155. but Fritz said
  8156. I should go in...
  8157.  
  8158. 1772
  8159. 01:26:48,013 --> 01:26:50,716
  8160. and say a few words
  8161. to the Board.
  8162.  
  8163. 1773
  8164. 01:26:52,951 --> 01:26:55,951
  8165. So, I tried
  8166. to rehearse something...
  8167.  
  8168. 1774
  8169. 01:26:55,953 --> 01:26:58,321
  8170. but it all
  8171. turned out so awful,
  8172.  
  8173. 1775
  8174. 01:26:58,323 --> 01:26:59,556
  8175. and before I knew it...
  8176.  
  8177. 1776
  8178. 01:26:59,558 --> 01:27:01,223
  8179. the car was there
  8180. ready to take me
  8181.  
  8182. 1777
  8183. 01:27:01,225 --> 01:27:02,795
  8184. and then you came out.
  8185.  
  8186. 1778
  8187. 01:27:03,528 --> 01:27:05,261
  8188. I remember.
  8189.  
  8190. 1779
  8191. 01:27:05,263 --> 01:27:06,529
  8192. You came out in
  8193.  
  8194. 1780
  8195. 01:27:06,531 --> 01:27:08,964
  8196. your little nightgown
  8197. and your robe.
  8198.  
  8199. 1781
  8200. 01:27:08,966 --> 01:27:11,467
  8201. And you hopped
  8202. in the car with me.
  8203.  
  8204. 1782
  8205. 01:27:11,469 --> 01:27:14,070
  8206. Gave me this.
  8207.  
  8208. 1783
  8209. 01:27:14,072 --> 01:27:18,874
  8210. Somehow you managed to
  8211. scribble these notes for me.
  8212.  
  8213. 1784
  8214. 01:27:18,876 --> 01:27:22,145
  8215. So I'd know what to say.
  8216.  
  8217. 1785
  8218. 01:27:22,147 --> 01:27:25,115
  8219. But I don't
  8220. have my glasses up here.
  8221.  
  8222. 1786
  8223. 01:27:25,117 --> 01:27:27,749
  8224. - So, just read it for me.
  8225. - Mummy...
  8226.  
  8227. 1787
  8228. 01:27:27,751 --> 01:27:29,988
  8229. Oh, come on, just...
  8230. Would you read it to me?
  8231.  
  8232. 1788
  8233. 01:27:34,792 --> 01:27:37,526
  8234. "One, thank them.
  8235.  
  8236. 1789
  8237. 01:27:37,528 --> 01:27:40,562
  8238. "Two, there has been a crisis,
  8239.  
  8240. 1790
  8241. 01:27:40,564 --> 01:27:42,499
  8242. "but you know
  8243. they will carry on.
  8244.  
  8245. 1791
  8246. 01:27:42,501 --> 01:27:45,838
  8247. "Three, never expected
  8248. to be in this...
  8249.  
  8250. 1792
  8251. 01:27:47,072 --> 01:27:49,237
  8252. "situation.
  8253.  
  8254. 1793
  8255. 01:27:49,239 --> 01:27:54,578
  8256. "Four, going off to clear mind
  8257. and think about the future.
  8258.  
  8259. 1794
  8260. 01:27:54,580 --> 01:27:57,147
  8261. "Five, no changes
  8262. at this time,
  8263.  
  8264. 1795
  8265. 01:27:57,149 --> 01:27:59,749
  8266. "paper will remain
  8267. in the family.
  8268.  
  8269. 1796
  8270. 01:27:59,751 --> 01:28:03,018
  8271. "And six, and be carried on
  8272. in the tradition...
  8273.  
  8274. 1797
  8275. 01:28:03,020 --> 01:28:05,522
  8276. - "so well set."
  8277. - So well set.
  8278.  
  8279. 1798
  8280. 01:28:06,891 --> 01:28:10,625
  8281. You know, I just wanted
  8282. to hold on to the company...
  8283.  
  8284. 1799
  8285. 01:28:10,627 --> 01:28:13,228
  8286. for you and Don
  8287. and Billy and Steve.
  8288.  
  8289. 1800
  8290. 01:28:13,230 --> 01:28:15,130
  8291. You did. You have.
  8292.  
  8293. 1801
  8294. 01:28:15,132 --> 01:28:16,702
  8295. Well...
  8296.  
  8297. 1802
  8298. 01:28:18,836 --> 01:28:20,973
  8299. You know that quote?
  8300.  
  8301. 1803
  8302. 01:28:22,608 --> 01:28:24,039
  8303. That quote...
  8304.  
  8305. 1804
  8306. 01:28:24,041 --> 01:28:29,512
  8307. "A woman preaching is like a
  8308. dog walking on its hind legs.
  8309.  
  8310. 1805
  8311. 01:28:29,514 --> 01:28:31,112
  8312. "It's not done well...
  8313.  
  8314. 1806
  8315. 01:28:31,114 --> 01:28:35,787
  8316. "and you're surprised to see
  8317. it's done at all."
  8318.  
  8319. 1807
  8320. 01:28:36,587 --> 01:28:37,919
  8321. Samuel Johnson.
  8322.  
  8323. 1808
  8324. 01:28:37,921 --> 01:28:39,589
  8325. - Oh, Mummy.
  8326. - Yeah.
  8327.  
  8328. 1809
  8329. 01:28:39,591 --> 01:28:41,124
  8330. Well, it's a bunch
  8331. of nonsense.
  8332.  
  8333. 1810
  8334. 01:28:41,126 --> 01:28:44,363
  8335. No, but that's the way
  8336. we all thought then...
  8337.  
  8338. 1811
  8339. 01:28:45,129 --> 01:28:46,763
  8340. you know?
  8341.  
  8342. 1812
  8343. 01:28:46,765 --> 01:28:50,402
  8344. I was never
  8345. supposed to be in this job.
  8346.  
  8347. 1813
  8348. 01:28:52,069 --> 01:28:56,472
  8349. When my father chose your dad
  8350. to run the company...
  8351.  
  8352. 1814
  8353. 01:28:56,474 --> 01:28:59,174
  8354. I thought it was the most
  8355. natural thing in the world.
  8356.  
  8357. 1815
  8358. 01:28:59,176 --> 01:29:01,677
  8359. I was so proud,
  8360. because you know...
  8361.  
  8362. 1816
  8363. 01:29:01,679 --> 01:29:05,717
  8364. Phil was so brilliant.
  8365. And he was...
  8366.  
  8367. 1817
  8368. 01:29:09,086 --> 01:29:11,920
  8369. so gifted...
  8370.  
  8371. 1818
  8372. 01:29:11,922 --> 01:29:14,857
  8373. But I thought that was the way
  8374. it was supposed to be.
  8375.  
  8376. 1819
  8377. 01:29:14,859 --> 01:29:17,962
  8378. Everybody thought
  8379. that way then.
  8380.  
  8381. 1820
  8382. 01:29:18,863 --> 01:29:21,467
  8383. And I was raising you kids...
  8384.  
  8385. 1821
  8386. 01:29:23,635 --> 01:29:27,803
  8387. and I was happy in my life.
  8388.  
  8389. 1822
  8390. 01:29:27,805 --> 01:29:30,108
  8391. The way it was.
  8392.  
  8393. 1823
  8394. 01:29:32,344 --> 01:29:36,081
  8395. But then when it
  8396. all fell apart, you know...
  8397.  
  8398. 1824
  8399. 01:29:39,951 --> 01:29:42,852
  8400. When Phil died, it was just...
  8401.  
  8402. 1825
  8403. 01:29:42,854 --> 01:29:46,222
  8404. I was 45 years old
  8405. and I had never held...
  8406.  
  8407. 1826
  8408. 01:29:46,224 --> 01:29:50,028
  8409. I'd never had to
  8410. hold a job in my life.
  8411.  
  8412. 1827
  8413. 01:29:51,996 --> 01:29:55,365
  8414. But I just, I loved the paper,
  8415. you know...
  8416.  
  8417. 1828
  8418. 01:29:55,367 --> 01:29:56,869
  8419. I do.
  8420.  
  8421. 1829
  8422. 01:29:57,635 --> 01:29:59,035
  8423. I do so love the paper.
  8424.  
  8425. 1830
  8426. 01:29:59,037 --> 01:30:01,169
  8427. I don't want it
  8428. to be my fault.
  8429.  
  8430. 1831
  8431. 01:30:01,171 --> 01:30:02,540
  8432. I don't want
  8433. to be the one who...
  8434.  
  8435. 1832
  8436. 01:30:03,809 --> 01:30:08,011
  8437. I don't wanna
  8438. let Phil and my father...
  8439.  
  8440. 1833
  8441. 01:30:08,013 --> 01:30:11,416
  8442. and all of you kids
  8443. and everybody down.
  8444.  
  8445. 1834
  8446. 01:30:12,817 --> 01:30:14,453
  8447. Mrs. Graham?
  8448.  
  8449. 1835
  8450. 01:30:23,127 --> 01:30:25,397
  8451. - You ran here?
  8452. - Yeah.
  8453.  
  8454. 1836
  8455. 01:30:27,098 --> 01:30:29,464
  8456. There's been a bit of a...
  8457.  
  8458. 1837
  8459. 01:30:29,466 --> 01:30:31,068
  8460. complication.
  8461.  
  8462. 1838
  8463. 01:30:32,170 --> 01:30:33,770
  8464. I didn't understand at first,
  8465.  
  8466. 1839
  8467. 01:30:33,772 --> 01:30:35,371
  8468. but now everything
  8469. is in a different light.
  8470.  
  8471. 1840
  8472. 01:30:35,373 --> 01:30:39,342
  8473. Our source might be the same
  8474. as The New York Times.
  8475.  
  8476. 1841
  8477. 01:30:39,344 --> 01:30:40,345
  8478. Okay.
  8479.  
  8480. 1842
  8481. 01:30:41,179 --> 01:30:44,112
  8482. If so, we could be
  8483. held in contempt.
  8484.  
  8485. 1843
  8486. 01:30:44,114 --> 01:30:45,882
  8487. Meaning?
  8488.  
  8489. 1844
  8490. 01:30:45,884 --> 01:30:48,287
  8491. Well, we could
  8492. all go to prison.
  8493.  
  8494. 1845
  8495. 01:30:51,022 --> 01:30:53,091
  8496. Now putting that aside...
  8497.  
  8498. 1846
  8499. 01:30:54,192 --> 01:30:57,229
  8500. Katharine,
  8501. I've come to realize...
  8502.  
  8503. 1847
  8504. 01:30:58,596 --> 01:31:01,567
  8505. just how much
  8506. you have at stake.
  8507.  
  8508. 1848
  8509. 01:31:29,860 --> 01:31:31,460
  8510. - Paul.
  8511. - Glad you're here.
  8512.  
  8513. 1849
  8514. 01:31:31,462 --> 01:31:32,762
  8515. Fritz is sitting
  8516. with Mrs. Graham now.
  8517.  
  8518. 1850
  8519. 01:31:32,764 --> 01:31:33,830
  8520. And Ben is here.
  8521.  
  8522. 1851
  8523. 01:31:33,832 --> 01:31:35,868
  8524. Yes, I figured he would be.
  8525.  
  8526. 1852
  8527. 01:31:59,291 --> 01:32:00,656
  8528. Jesus Christ.
  8529.  
  8530. 1853
  8531. 01:32:00,658 --> 01:32:01,891
  8532. Mr. Bradlee, if you knew
  8533.  
  8534. 1854
  8535. 01:32:01,893 --> 01:32:03,025
  8536. Mr. Bagdikian
  8537. received the study...
  8538.  
  8539. 1855
  8540. 01:32:03,027 --> 01:32:04,326
  8541. from the same source
  8542. as The Times...
  8543.  
  8544. 1856
  8545. 01:32:04,328 --> 01:32:06,195
  8546. I didn't know because
  8547. I'm not in the habit...
  8548.  
  8549. 1857
  8550. 01:32:06,197 --> 01:32:07,830
  8551. of asking my reporters
  8552. who their sources are...
  8553.  
  8554. 1858
  8555. 01:32:07,832 --> 01:32:09,065
  8556. and if you'd spent any time
  8557.  
  8558. 1859
  8559. 01:32:09,067 --> 01:32:10,298
  8560. at a real goddamn newspaper
  8561. you'd know why.
  8562.  
  8563. 1860
  8564. 01:32:10,300 --> 01:32:12,103
  8565. You understand he's trying
  8566. to help you, Ben?
  8567.  
  8568. 1861
  8569. 01:32:12,738 --> 01:32:14,606
  8570. Mrs. Graham, hi.
  8571.  
  8572. 1862
  8573. 01:32:15,306 --> 01:32:16,406
  8574. We can all...
  8575.  
  8576. 1863
  8577. 01:32:16,408 --> 01:32:19,107
  8578. We can all appreciate
  8579. why Ben wants to publish...
  8580.  
  8581. 1864
  8582. 01:32:19,109 --> 01:32:20,910
  8583. and if these papers had
  8584. come from someone else...
  8585.  
  8586. 1865
  8587. 01:32:20,912 --> 01:32:23,248
  8588. we might have been
  8589. able to skirt the issue.
  8590.  
  8591. 1866
  8592. 01:32:24,349 --> 01:32:25,914
  8593. Anything from
  8594. the folks upstairs?
  8595.  
  8596. 1867
  8597. 01:32:25,916 --> 01:32:27,048
  8598. No.
  8599.  
  8600. 1868
  8601. 01:32:27,050 --> 01:32:28,450
  8602. We gotta start the run
  8603.  
  8604. 1869
  8605. 01:32:28,452 --> 01:32:31,422
  8606. or we won't get
  8607. to the carriers on time.
  8608.  
  8609. 1870
  8610. 01:32:34,824 --> 01:32:36,392
  8611. I disagreed with you earlier,
  8612.  
  8613. 1871
  8614. 01:32:36,394 --> 01:32:38,227
  8615. but I thought it brave.
  8616. But this?
  8617.  
  8618. 1872
  8619. 01:32:38,229 --> 01:32:39,829
  8620. If we were
  8621. to publish knowing this,
  8622.  
  8623. 1873
  8624. 01:32:39,831 --> 01:32:41,629
  8625. it would just
  8626. be irresponsible.
  8627.  
  8628. 1874
  8629. 01:32:41,631 --> 01:32:44,365
  8630. Fritz, do you agree?
  8631.  
  8632. 1875
  8633. 01:32:44,367 --> 01:32:46,803
  8634. Well, I don't particularly
  8635. like the idea
  8636.  
  8637. 1876
  8638. 01:32:46,805 --> 01:32:49,539
  8639. of Kay as a convicted felon.
  8640.  
  8641. 1877
  8642. 01:32:49,541 --> 01:32:51,339
  8643. And then there's the
  8644. issue of the prospectus.
  8645.  
  8646. 1878
  8647. 01:32:51,341 --> 01:32:52,775
  8648. Based on
  8649. the conversations I've had
  8650.  
  8651. 1879
  8652. 01:32:52,777 --> 01:32:54,009
  8653. with my friends at Cravath...
  8654.  
  8655. 1880
  8656. 01:32:54,011 --> 01:32:55,445
  8657. I believe
  8658. a criminal indictment
  8659.  
  8660. 1881
  8661. 01:32:55,447 --> 01:32:58,013
  8662. would qualify
  8663. as a catastrophic event.
  8664.  
  8665. 1882
  8666. 01:32:58,015 --> 01:33:01,219
  8667. And given the likelihood
  8668. of indictment now...
  8669.  
  8670. 1883
  8671. 01:33:02,787 --> 01:33:03,919
  8672. Kay, it could...
  8673.  
  8674. 1884
  8675. 01:33:03,921 --> 01:33:06,458
  8676. Yes, I understand.
  8677.  
  8678. 1885
  8679. 01:33:07,893 --> 01:33:11,160
  8680. We have a responsibility
  8681. to the company...
  8682.  
  8683. 1886
  8684. 01:33:11,162 --> 01:33:12,361
  8685. to all the employees
  8686.  
  8687. 1887
  8688. 01:33:12,363 --> 01:33:14,699
  8689. and to the long-term health
  8690. of the paper.
  8691.  
  8692. 1888
  8693. 01:33:15,500 --> 01:33:17,135
  8694. Absolutely, Kay.
  8695.  
  8696. 1889
  8697. 01:33:20,171 --> 01:33:23,208
  8698. Yes. However, um...
  8699.  
  8700. 1890
  8701. 01:33:31,082 --> 01:33:33,482
  8702. The prospectus
  8703. also talks about...
  8704.  
  8705. 1891
  8706. 01:33:33,484 --> 01:33:36,553
  8707. the mission
  8708. of the paper, which is...
  8709.  
  8710. 1892
  8711. 01:33:36,555 --> 01:33:38,187
  8712. "outstanding news collection
  8713.  
  8714. 1893
  8715. 01:33:38,189 --> 01:33:40,190
  8716. "and reporting,"
  8717. isn't that right?
  8718.  
  8719. 1894
  8720. 01:33:40,192 --> 01:33:41,257
  8721. Yes.
  8722.  
  8723. 1895
  8724. 01:33:41,259 --> 01:33:42,157
  8725. And...
  8726.  
  8727. 1896
  8728. 01:33:42,159 --> 01:33:44,759
  8729. And it also says...
  8730.  
  8731. 1897
  8732. 01:33:44,761 --> 01:33:45,962
  8733. that the newspaper will
  8734.  
  8735. 1898
  8736. 01:33:45,964 --> 01:33:48,197
  8737. "be dedicated to the welfare
  8738. of the nation...
  8739.  
  8740. 1899
  8741. 01:33:48,199 --> 01:33:51,066
  8742. "and to the, uh, principles
  8743. of a free press..."
  8744.  
  8745. 1900
  8746. 01:33:51,068 --> 01:33:52,468
  8747. Yes, but...
  8748.  
  8749. 1901
  8750. 01:33:52,470 --> 01:33:57,071
  8751. So, one could argue that the
  8752. bankers were put on notice.
  8753.  
  8754. 1902
  8755. 01:33:57,073 --> 01:33:59,508
  8756. But Kay, these are
  8757. extraordinary circumstances.
  8758.  
  8759. 1903
  8760. 01:33:59,510 --> 01:34:02,512
  8761. Are they? Are they?
  8762. For a newspaper?
  8763.  
  8764. 1904
  8765. 01:34:02,514 --> 01:34:05,147
  8766. One that covers
  8767. the Nixon White House.
  8768.  
  8769. 1905
  8770. 01:34:05,149 --> 01:34:07,983
  8771. Can you guarantee me that
  8772. we could go to print...
  8773.  
  8774. 1906
  8775. 01:34:07,985 --> 01:34:09,817
  8776. without endangering
  8777. any of our soldiers?
  8778.  
  8779. 1907
  8780. 01:34:09,819 --> 01:34:11,254
  8781. You can't be considering...
  8782.  
  8783. 1908
  8784. 01:34:11,256 --> 01:34:13,792
  8785. I'm talking
  8786. to Mr. Bradlee now.
  8787.  
  8788. 1909
  8789. 01:34:17,627 --> 01:34:20,062
  8790. Fritz, you're not gonna
  8791. let her do this.
  8792.  
  8793. 1910
  8794. 01:34:20,064 --> 01:34:21,196
  8795. She can't go to...
  8796.  
  8797. 1911
  8798. 01:34:21,198 --> 01:34:23,031
  8799. No, now, she can, Arthur.
  8800.  
  8801. 1912
  8802. 01:34:23,033 --> 01:34:24,467
  8803. And it's entirely
  8804. her decision.
  8805.  
  8806. 1913
  8807. 01:34:24,469 --> 01:34:27,137
  8808. Kay, you're allowing
  8809. Mr. Bradlee...
  8810.  
  8811. 1914
  8812. 01:34:27,139 --> 01:34:29,004
  8813. to lead you to folly.
  8814.  
  8815. 1915
  8816. 01:34:29,006 --> 01:34:30,638
  8817. The legacy of the company
  8818. is at stake
  8819.  
  8820. 1916
  8821. 01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:33,209
  8822. and if you want
  8823. to protect that legacy...
  8824.  
  8825. 1917
  8826. 01:34:33,211 --> 01:34:35,044
  8827. This company's
  8828. been in my life...
  8829.  
  8830. 1918
  8831. 01:34:35,046 --> 01:34:36,210
  8832. for longer
  8833. than most of the people
  8834.  
  8835. 1919
  8836. 01:34:36,212 --> 01:34:37,612
  8837. working there have been alive.
  8838.  
  8839. 1920
  8840. 01:34:37,614 --> 01:34:40,786
  8841. So, I don't need
  8842. the lecture on legacy.
  8843.  
  8844. 1921
  8845. 01:34:42,453 --> 01:34:46,522
  8846. And this is no longer
  8847. my father's company.
  8848.  
  8849. 1922
  8850. 01:34:46,524 --> 01:34:48,892
  8851. It's no longer
  8852. my husband's company.
  8853.  
  8854. 1923
  8855. 01:34:48,894 --> 01:34:51,026
  8856. It's my company.
  8857.  
  8858. 1924
  8859. 01:34:51,028 --> 01:34:52,928
  8860. And anyone
  8861. who thinks otherwise...
  8862.  
  8863. 1925
  8864. 01:34:52,930 --> 01:34:56,132
  8865. probably doesn't belong
  8866. on my board.
  8867.  
  8868. 1926
  8869. 01:34:56,134 --> 01:34:58,401
  8870. Can you guarantee me
  8871. that we can go to...
  8872.  
  8873. 1927
  8874. 01:34:58,403 --> 01:34:59,701
  8875. 100%!
  8876.  
  8877. 1928
  8878. 01:34:59,703 --> 01:35:02,004
  8879. All right, then.
  8880.  
  8881. 1929
  8882. 01:35:02,006 --> 01:35:04,408
  8883. My decision stands...
  8884.  
  8885. 1930
  8886. 01:35:06,978 --> 01:35:08,814
  8887. and I'm going to bed.
  8888.  
  8889. 1931
  8890. 01:35:24,828 --> 01:35:26,629
  8891. It's Ben Bradlee.
  8892. Run it.
  8893.  
  8894. 1932
  8895. 01:35:26,631 --> 01:35:27,830
  8896. Yes, sir.
  8897.  
  8898. 1933
  8899. 01:35:27,832 --> 01:35:29,501
  8900. Start it up.
  8901.  
  8902. 1934
  8903. 01:36:44,641 --> 01:36:48,244
  8904. Let's go! Let's go!
  8905.  
  8906. 1935
  8907. 01:36:48,246 --> 01:36:50,946
  8908. This is not a party,
  8909. this is a war here!
  8910.  
  8911. 1936
  8912. 01:37:03,359 --> 01:37:05,628
  8913. I've got the
  8914. Assistant Attorney General.
  8915.  
  8916. 1937
  8917. 01:37:05,630 --> 01:37:06,898
  8918. Put him on.
  8919.  
  8920. 1938
  8921. 01:37:08,099 --> 01:37:09,898
  8922. - Good morning.
  8923. - Good morning.
  8924.  
  8925. 1939
  8926. 01:37:09,900 --> 01:37:10,967
  8927. This is William Rehnquist
  8928.  
  8929. 1940
  8930. 01:37:10,969 --> 01:37:13,268
  8931. from the Office
  8932. of Legal Counsel at Justice.
  8933.  
  8934. 1941
  8935. 01:37:13,270 --> 01:37:14,570
  8936. Yes, sir.
  8937.  
  8938. 1942
  8939. 01:37:14,572 --> 01:37:16,405
  8940. Mr. Bradlee,
  8941. I have been advised
  8942.  
  8943. 1943
  8944. 01:37:16,407 --> 01:37:18,039
  8945. by the Secretary of Defense...
  8946.  
  8947. 1944
  8948. 01:37:18,041 --> 01:37:19,407
  8949. that the material published
  8950.  
  8951. 1945
  8952. 01:37:19,409 --> 01:37:21,309
  8953. in The Washington Post
  8954. this morning...
  8955.  
  8956. 1946
  8957. 01:37:21,311 --> 01:37:22,911
  8958. contains information
  8959. relating to
  8960.  
  8961. 1947
  8962. 01:37:22,913 --> 01:37:25,313
  8963. the national defense
  8964. of the United States...
  8965.  
  8966. 1948
  8967. 01:37:25,315 --> 01:37:28,250
  8968. and bears
  8969. a top-secret classification.
  8970.  
  8971. 1949
  8972. 01:37:28,252 --> 01:37:30,919
  8973. As such, the publication
  8974. of this information...
  8975.  
  8976. 1950
  8977. 01:37:30,921 --> 01:37:33,656
  8978. is directly prohibited by
  8979. the Espionage Act...
  8980.  
  8981. 1951
  8982. 01:37:33,658 --> 01:37:38,393
  8983. title 18 of the United States
  8984. code, section 793.
  8985.  
  8986. 1952
  8987. 01:37:38,395 --> 01:37:40,862
  8988. As publication will cause
  8989. irreparable injury...
  8990.  
  8991. 1953
  8992. 01:37:40,864 --> 01:37:43,833
  8993. to the defense interests
  8994. of the United States...
  8995.  
  8996. 1954
  8997. 01:37:43,835 --> 01:37:45,867
  8998. I respectfully request
  8999. that you publish
  9000.  
  9001. 1955
  9002. 01:37:45,869 --> 01:37:48,971
  9003. no further information
  9004. of this character...
  9005.  
  9006. 1956
  9007. 01:37:48,973 --> 01:37:51,740
  9008. and advise me that you
  9009. have made arrangements...
  9010.  
  9011. 1957
  9012. 01:37:51,742 --> 01:37:53,409
  9013. for the return
  9014. of these documents
  9015.  
  9016. 1958
  9017. 01:37:53,411 --> 01:37:55,477
  9018. to the Department of Defense.
  9019.  
  9020. 1959
  9021. 01:37:55,479 --> 01:37:57,580
  9022. Well, thank you for the call,
  9023. Mr. Rehnquist...
  9024.  
  9025. 1960
  9026. 01:37:57,582 --> 01:38:02,384
  9027. but I'm sure you understand
  9028. I must respectfully decline.
  9029.  
  9030. 1961
  9031. 01:38:02,386 --> 01:38:04,956
  9032. I appreciate your time.
  9033.  
  9034. 1962
  9035. 01:38:08,893 --> 01:38:10,125
  9036. What's next?
  9037.  
  9038. 1963
  9039. 01:38:10,127 --> 01:38:12,593
  9040. We're going to court. Today.
  9041.  
  9042. 1964
  9043. 01:38:12,595 --> 01:38:15,798
  9044. If we get a ruling in our
  9045. favor, or The Times does...
  9046.  
  9047. 1965
  9048. 01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:19,371
  9049. we'll be at the Supreme Court
  9050. sometime next week.
  9051.  
  9052. 1966
  9053. 01:38:30,613 --> 01:38:31,681
  9054. No, I wanna make sure
  9055. all the dates
  9056.  
  9057. 1967
  9058. 01:38:31,683 --> 01:38:32,981
  9059. are locked down
  9060. between sixth...
  9061.  
  9062. 1968
  9063. 01:38:32,983 --> 01:38:34,385
  9064. We're focusing on Johnson...
  9065.  
  9066. 1969
  9067. 01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:38,087
  9068. I don't want any more articles
  9069.  
  9070. 1970
  9071. 01:38:38,089 --> 01:38:39,858
  9072. just about shoes
  9073. and about dresses.
  9074.  
  9075. 1971
  9076. 01:38:41,291 --> 01:38:42,724
  9077. Well, that's where
  9078. you're wrong, Al.
  9079.  
  9080. 1972
  9081. 01:38:42,726 --> 01:38:44,696
  9082. I happen to be
  9083. a woman and I know a few.
  9084.  
  9085. 1973
  9086. 01:38:46,596 --> 01:38:47,730
  9087. Your Honor,
  9088. the stories published
  9089.  
  9090. 1974
  9091. 01:38:47,732 --> 01:38:49,031
  9092. in The Times
  9093. and now The Post...
  9094.  
  9095. 1975
  9096. 01:38:49,033 --> 01:38:50,266
  9097. have created a diplomatic
  9098.  
  9099. 1976
  9100. 01:38:50,268 --> 01:38:52,434
  9101. and security disaster
  9102. for the United States.
  9103.  
  9104. 1977
  9105. 01:38:52,436 --> 01:38:55,705
  9106. How exactly have these papers
  9107. created a diplomatic disaster?
  9108.  
  9109. 1978
  9110. 01:38:55,707 --> 01:38:58,173
  9111. Why would other countries
  9112. talk to us in confidence...
  9113.  
  9114. 1979
  9115. 01:38:58,175 --> 01:38:59,709
  9116. if secrets like this
  9117. can be leaked?
  9118.  
  9119. 1980
  9120. 01:38:59,711 --> 01:39:01,142
  9121. So, does this
  9122. make it difficult
  9123.  
  9124. 1981
  9125. 01:39:01,144 --> 01:39:02,544
  9126. for the President to govern?
  9127.  
  9128. 1982
  9129. 01:39:02,546 --> 01:39:05,347
  9130. If the President can't
  9131. keep secrets, he can't govern.
  9132.  
  9133. 1983
  9134. 01:39:05,349 --> 01:39:07,148
  9135. Nothing less
  9136. than the integrity
  9137.  
  9138. 1984
  9139. 01:39:07,150 --> 01:39:09,754
  9140. of the presidency is at stake.
  9141.  
  9142. 1985
  9143. 01:39:10,188 --> 01:39:11,620
  9144. Yes, I know.
  9145.  
  9146. 1986
  9147. 01:39:11,622 --> 01:39:13,688
  9148. I'm sure it has
  9149. rattled investors, Jerry.
  9150.  
  9151. 1987
  9152. 01:39:13,690 --> 01:39:16,191
  9153. That's why I'm calling you.
  9154.  
  9155. 1988
  9156. 01:39:16,193 --> 01:39:18,392
  9157. Yes, I understand
  9158. a number of them
  9159.  
  9160. 1989
  9161. 01:39:18,394 --> 01:39:21,098
  9162. have considered pulling out
  9163. but we feel...
  9164.  
  9165. 1990
  9166. 01:39:22,433 --> 01:39:26,371
  9167. Of course.
  9168. I stand behind the decision.
  9169.  
  9170. 1991
  9171. 01:39:31,576 --> 01:39:33,409
  9172. Well, you know,
  9173. one could argue
  9174.  
  9175. 1992
  9176. 01:39:33,411 --> 01:39:37,780
  9177. it's raising
  9178. the profile of The Post.
  9179.  
  9180. 1993
  9181. 01:39:37,782 --> 01:39:41,383
  9182. Would The Post have published
  9183. military plans for D-Day...
  9184.  
  9185. 1994
  9186. 01:39:41,385 --> 01:39:44,453
  9187. if they'd had them in advance?
  9188.  
  9189. 1995
  9190. 01:39:44,455 --> 01:39:46,821
  9191. Well, I don't think
  9192. there's any comparison
  9193.  
  9194. 1996
  9195. 01:39:46,823 --> 01:39:48,657
  9196. between a pending invasion
  9197. of Europe...
  9198.  
  9199. 1997
  9200. 01:39:48,659 --> 01:39:51,559
  9201. and a historical survey
  9202. of American involvement
  9203.  
  9204. 1998
  9205. 01:39:51,561 --> 01:39:53,131
  9206. in the Vietnam War.
  9207.  
  9208. 1999
  9209. 01:39:54,564 --> 01:39:56,264
  9210. The Supreme Court has decided
  9211.  
  9212. 2000
  9213. 01:39:56,266 --> 01:39:57,965
  9214. to hold a hearing
  9215. tomorrow morning...
  9216.  
  9217. 2001
  9218. 01:39:57,967 --> 01:40:01,236
  9219. to resolve the tangle of
  9220. conflicting decisions...
  9221.  
  9222. 2002
  9223. 01:40:01,238 --> 01:40:02,905
  9224. over what
  9225. of the Pentagon Papers
  9226.  
  9227. 2003
  9228. 01:40:02,907 --> 01:40:04,740
  9229. can be published
  9230. and more broadly...
  9231.  
  9232. 2004
  9233. 01:40:04,742 --> 01:40:06,374
  9234. the issue
  9235. of freedom of the press
  9236.  
  9237. 2005
  9238. 01:40:06,376 --> 01:40:08,477
  9239. versus government security.
  9240.  
  9241. 2006
  9242. 01:40:08,479 --> 01:40:09,911
  9243. But in agreeing
  9244. to hear the cases of
  9245.  
  9246. 2007
  9247. 01:40:09,913 --> 01:40:11,545
  9248. The New York Times
  9249. and The Washington Post...
  9250.  
  9251. 2008
  9252. 01:40:11,547 --> 01:40:14,548
  9253. Supreme's granted cert.
  9254.  
  9255. 2009
  9256. 01:40:14,550 --> 01:40:16,050
  9257. Emergency expedited basis.
  9258.  
  9259. 2010
  9260. 01:40:16,052 --> 01:40:18,022
  9261. We're in court
  9262. with The Times tomorrow.
  9263.  
  9264. 2011
  9265. 01:40:20,257 --> 01:40:22,126
  9266. What are you so happy about?
  9267.  
  9268. 2012
  9269. 01:40:27,866 --> 01:40:31,536
  9270. I always wanted to be part
  9271. of a small rebellion.
  9272.  
  9273. 2013
  9274. 01:40:41,744 --> 01:40:43,646
  9275. I asked him
  9276. what he considers...
  9277.  
  9278. 2014
  9279. 01:40:43,648 --> 01:40:45,313
  9280. the most important revelations
  9281.  
  9282. 2015
  9283. 01:40:45,315 --> 01:40:47,583
  9284. to date
  9285. from the Pentagon documents.
  9286.  
  9287. 2016
  9288. 01:40:47,585 --> 01:40:49,617
  9289. I think the lesson is
  9290. the people of this country...
  9291.  
  9292. 2017
  9293. 01:40:49,619 --> 01:40:51,352
  9294. can't afford
  9295. to let the President
  9296.  
  9297. 2018
  9298. 01:40:51,354 --> 01:40:53,556
  9299. run the country by himself.
  9300.  
  9301. 2019
  9302. 01:40:53,558 --> 01:40:56,057
  9303. Even foreign affairs any more
  9304. than domestic affairs,
  9305.  
  9306. 2020
  9307. 01:40:56,059 --> 01:40:57,625
  9308. without the help of Congress.
  9309.  
  9310. 2021
  9311. 01:40:57,627 --> 01:40:58,727
  9312. I was struck, in fact,
  9313.  
  9314. 2022
  9315. 01:40:58,729 --> 01:40:59,928
  9316. by President Johnson's
  9317. reaction...
  9318.  
  9319. 2023
  9320. 01:40:59,930 --> 01:41:02,664
  9321. to these revelations
  9322. as close to treason.
  9323.  
  9324. 2024
  9325. 01:41:02,666 --> 01:41:04,599
  9326. Because it reflected
  9327. to me the sense
  9328.  
  9329. 2025
  9330. 01:41:04,601 --> 01:41:07,169
  9331. that what was damaging
  9332. to the reputation...
  9333.  
  9334. 2026
  9335. 01:41:07,171 --> 01:41:08,736
  9336. of a particular
  9337. administration,
  9338.  
  9339. 2027
  9340. 01:41:08,738 --> 01:41:10,406
  9341. a particular individual...
  9342.  
  9343. 2028
  9344. 01:41:10,408 --> 01:41:12,641
  9345. was in itself treason.
  9346.  
  9347. 2029
  9348. 01:41:12,643 --> 01:41:15,747
  9349. Which is very close to saying,
  9350. "I am the State."
  9351.  
  9352. 2030
  9353. 01:41:21,984 --> 01:41:23,317
  9354. But this is
  9355. a self-governing country.
  9356.  
  9357. 2031
  9358. 01:41:23,319 --> 01:41:24,820
  9359. Ben?
  9360.  
  9361. 2032
  9362. 01:41:24,822 --> 01:41:27,656
  9363. The Constitution provides
  9364. for a separation of powers...
  9365.  
  9366. 2033
  9367. 01:41:27,658 --> 01:41:30,829
  9368. What on earth are you doing?
  9369.  
  9370. 2034
  9371. 01:41:46,109 --> 01:41:49,179
  9372. They all followed your lead
  9373. and published the papers.
  9374.  
  9375. 2035
  9376. 01:41:50,113 --> 01:41:52,483
  9377. At least we're not alone.
  9378.  
  9379. 2036
  9380. 01:41:53,283 --> 01:41:54,816
  9381. No matter
  9382. what happens tomorrow,
  9383.  
  9384. 2037
  9385. 01:41:54,818 --> 01:41:57,852
  9386. we are not
  9387. a little local paper anymore.
  9388.  
  9389. 2038
  9390. 01:41:57,854 --> 01:41:58,922
  9391. Hmm.
  9392.  
  9393. 2039
  9394. 01:42:11,536 --> 01:42:12,634
  9395. I'd be very interested
  9396. in your opinion.
  9397.  
  9398. 2040
  9399. 01:42:12,636 --> 01:42:13,968
  9400. Sounds good.
  9401.  
  9402. 2041
  9403. 01:42:13,970 --> 01:42:15,169
  9404. All right, I'll see you
  9405. at the first break.
  9406.  
  9407. 2042
  9408. 01:42:15,171 --> 01:42:16,174
  9409. All right.
  9410.  
  9411. 2043
  9412. 01:42:18,141 --> 01:42:19,644
  9413. I am sorry.
  9414.  
  9415. 2044
  9416. 01:42:23,514 --> 01:42:25,313
  9417. Mrs. Graham,
  9418. there's an entrance
  9419.  
  9420. 2045
  9421. 01:42:25,315 --> 01:42:26,682
  9422. around the side
  9423. for the appellants.
  9424.  
  9425. 2046
  9426. 01:42:26,684 --> 01:42:28,086
  9427. Oh, thank you very much.
  9428.  
  9429. 2047
  9430. 01:42:29,485 --> 01:42:31,152
  9431. I'm sorry I'm walking so fast.
  9432.  
  9433. 2048
  9434. 01:42:31,154 --> 01:42:33,455
  9435. I was supposed to be here
  9436. half hour ago...
  9437.  
  9438. 2049
  9439. 01:42:33,457 --> 01:42:34,923
  9440. but then I had to
  9441. make copies of the brief
  9442.  
  9443. 2050
  9444. 01:42:34,925 --> 01:42:36,525
  9445. and there
  9446. was so much traffic...
  9447.  
  9448. 2051
  9449. 01:42:36,527 --> 01:42:37,625
  9450. and you just wouldn't think
  9451.  
  9452. 2052
  9453. 01:42:37,627 --> 01:42:38,861
  9454. there'd be all these people,
  9455. you know?
  9456.  
  9457. 2053
  9458. 01:42:38,863 --> 01:42:41,263
  9459. No, you wouldn't.
  9460. You work for Roger Clark then?
  9461.  
  9462. 2054
  9463. 01:42:41,265 --> 01:42:42,630
  9464. I work for the government.
  9465.  
  9466. 2055
  9467. 01:42:42,632 --> 01:42:44,700
  9468. The Solicitor
  9469. General's office.
  9470.  
  9471. 2056
  9472. 01:42:44,702 --> 01:42:46,401
  9473. Oh. You're on the other team.
  9474.  
  9475. 2057
  9476. 01:42:46,403 --> 01:42:47,604
  9477. Mrs. Graham...
  9478.  
  9479. 2058
  9480. 01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:51,440
  9481. I probably shouldn't say this.
  9482.  
  9483. 2059
  9484. 01:42:51,442 --> 01:42:54,746
  9485. My brother,
  9486. he's still over there and...
  9487.  
  9488. 2060
  9489. 01:42:58,114 --> 01:43:00,184
  9490. Well, I hope you win.
  9491.  
  9492. 2061
  9493. 01:43:01,585 --> 01:43:02,817
  9494. Besides, I like someone
  9495.  
  9496. 2062
  9497. 01:43:02,819 --> 01:43:04,453
  9498. telling these guys
  9499. what's what.
  9500.  
  9501. 2063
  9502. 01:43:04,455 --> 01:43:05,687
  9503. But don't tell my boss
  9504. I said that.
  9505.  
  9506. 2064
  9507. 01:43:05,689 --> 01:43:07,129
  9508. He'd fire me just
  9509. for talking to you.
  9510.  
  9511. 2065
  9512. 01:43:15,099 --> 01:43:16,598
  9513. - Ben.
  9514. - How are ya, kid?
  9515.  
  9516. 2066
  9517. 01:43:16,600 --> 01:43:18,168
  9518. - Fritz.
  9519. - Roger.
  9520.  
  9521. 2067
  9522. 01:43:21,904 --> 01:43:23,438
  9523. I told you
  9524. to be here at eight.
  9525.  
  9526. 2068
  9527. 01:43:23,440 --> 01:43:24,505
  9528. Yes. I was here at eight,
  9529.  
  9530. 2069
  9531. 01:43:24,507 --> 01:43:25,673
  9532. but Richard
  9533. sent me back to make...
  9534.  
  9535. 2070
  9536. 01:43:25,675 --> 01:43:26,808
  9537. Is Richard your boss?
  9538.  
  9539. 2071
  9540. 01:43:26,810 --> 01:43:28,777
  9541. No, but you weren't here so...
  9542.  
  9543. 2072
  9544. 01:43:28,779 --> 01:43:31,683
  9545. I don't want excuses.
  9546. Just take a seat.
  9547.  
  9548. 2073
  9549. 01:43:33,117 --> 01:43:34,249
  9550. Mrs. Graham.
  9551.  
  9552. 2074
  9553. 01:43:34,251 --> 01:43:35,320
  9554. Morning.
  9555.  
  9556. 2075
  9557. 01:43:38,689 --> 01:43:40,522
  9558. Morning, gentlemen.
  9559. Good to see you.
  9560.  
  9561. 2076
  9562. 01:43:40,524 --> 01:43:42,624
  9563. - Kay.
  9564. - Punch, Abe.
  9565.  
  9566. 2077
  9567. 01:43:42,626 --> 01:43:44,892
  9568. Nice to be on the same
  9569. side for a change.
  9570.  
  9571. 2078
  9572. 01:43:44,894 --> 01:43:46,495
  9573. I'll tell you what's nice...
  9574.  
  9575. 2079
  9576. 01:43:46,497 --> 01:43:50,398
  9577. making the front page of your
  9578. newspaper on a daily basis.
  9579.  
  9580. 2080
  9581. 01:43:50,400 --> 01:43:52,300
  9582. Must be a lot of people
  9583. from Boston
  9584.  
  9585. 2081
  9586. 01:43:52,302 --> 01:43:54,037
  9587. to Washington
  9588. reading about us.
  9589.  
  9590. 2082
  9591. 01:43:54,505 --> 01:43:56,004
  9592. Yes...
  9593.  
  9594. 2083
  9595. 01:43:56,006 --> 01:43:58,673
  9596. well, I suppose
  9597. it's appropriate...
  9598.  
  9599. 2084
  9600. 01:43:58,675 --> 01:44:00,344
  9601. given what's at stake.
  9602.  
  9603. 2085
  9604. 01:44:01,545 --> 01:44:02,747
  9605. All rise.
  9606.  
  9607. 2086
  9608. 01:44:06,283 --> 01:44:07,882
  9609. The Honorable,
  9610. the Chief Justice
  9611.  
  9612. 2087
  9613. 01:44:07,884 --> 01:44:09,218
  9614. and the Associate Justices...
  9615.  
  9616. 2088
  9617. 01:44:09,220 --> 01:44:12,454
  9618. of the Supreme Court
  9619. of the United States.
  9620.  
  9621. 2089
  9622. 01:44:12,456 --> 01:44:15,760
  9623. Oyez, oyez, oyez.
  9624.  
  9625. 2090
  9626. 01:44:16,793 --> 01:44:18,526
  9627. All persons
  9628. having business before
  9629.  
  9630. 2091
  9631. 01:44:18,528 --> 01:44:21,263
  9632. the Honorable
  9633. of the Supreme Court...
  9634.  
  9635. 2092
  9636. 01:44:21,265 --> 01:44:23,632
  9637. Mr. Rosenthal. Mr. Rosenthal.
  9638.  
  9639. 2093
  9640. 01:44:23,634 --> 01:44:24,967
  9641. Mr. Sulzberger,
  9642. do you think
  9643.  
  9644. 2094
  9645. 01:44:24,969 --> 01:44:26,535
  9646. they'll decide in your favor?
  9647.  
  9648. 2095
  9649. 01:44:26,537 --> 01:44:29,237
  9650. Well, overall
  9651. we feel encouraged.
  9652.  
  9653. 2096
  9654. 01:44:29,239 --> 01:44:33,142
  9655. 27 congressmen filed
  9656. amicus briefs on our behalf.
  9657.  
  9658. 2097
  9659. 01:44:33,144 --> 01:44:34,276
  9660. As well as the ACLU...
  9661.  
  9662. 2098
  9663. 01:44:34,278 --> 01:44:35,143
  9664. We should make a statement.
  9665.  
  9666. 2099
  9667. 01:44:35,145 --> 01:44:36,544
  9668. You would think
  9669. that's her job.
  9670.  
  9671. 2100
  9672. 01:44:36,546 --> 01:44:40,048
  9673. I believe everything we had
  9674. to say we've already said.
  9675.  
  9676. 2101
  9677. 01:44:40,050 --> 01:44:42,386
  9678. Well, we feel confident...
  9679.  
  9680. 2102
  9681. 01:45:00,438 --> 01:45:01,839
  9682. Meg Greenfield.
  9683.  
  9684. 2103
  9685. 01:45:03,040 --> 01:45:04,138
  9686. Okay.
  9687.  
  9688. 2104
  9689. 01:45:04,140 --> 01:45:07,342
  9690. Everyone, listen up!
  9691. Listen up!
  9692.  
  9693. 2105
  9694. 01:45:07,344 --> 01:45:08,677
  9695. We've got a decision.
  9696.  
  9697. 2106
  9698. 01:45:08,679 --> 01:45:10,448
  9699. We've got a decision.
  9700.  
  9701. 2107
  9702. 01:45:13,884 --> 01:45:15,150
  9703. - Where'd they go?
  9704. - The same place.
  9705.  
  9706. 2108
  9707. 01:45:15,152 --> 01:45:18,056
  9708. The Supreme Court.
  9709. The decision's in.
  9710.  
  9711. 2109
  9712. 01:45:28,698 --> 01:45:30,701
  9713. The vote is...
  9714.  
  9715. 2110
  9716. 01:45:31,969 --> 01:45:33,438
  9717. 6-3.
  9718.  
  9719. 2111
  9720. 01:45:34,304 --> 01:45:36,105
  9721. 6-3. We win.
  9722.  
  9723. 2112
  9724. 01:45:36,107 --> 01:45:38,773
  9725. We win! And so does The Times!
  9726.  
  9727. 2113
  9728. 01:45:42,380 --> 01:45:43,381
  9729. Yes!
  9730.  
  9731. 2114
  9732. 01:45:46,617 --> 01:45:48,219
  9733. No shit!
  9734.  
  9735. 2115
  9736. 01:45:51,154 --> 01:45:53,254
  9737. Nice job, Gene.
  9738.  
  9739. 2116
  9740. 01:45:53,256 --> 01:45:55,826
  9741. - No gloating! No gloating.
  9742. - I'm just satisfied.
  9743.  
  9744. 2117
  9745. 01:46:00,430 --> 01:46:03,432
  9746. What? I can't hear you.
  9747. It's too loud.
  9748.  
  9749. 2118
  9750. 01:46:03,434 --> 01:46:04,666
  9751. Okay.
  9752.  
  9753. 2119
  9754. 01:46:04,668 --> 01:46:06,535
  9755. Listen up, everybody.
  9756. Listen up.
  9757.  
  9758. 2120
  9759. 01:46:06,537 --> 01:46:08,404
  9760. Justice Black's opinion.
  9761.  
  9762. 2121
  9763. 01:46:08,406 --> 01:46:09,407
  9764. Okay.
  9765.  
  9766. 2122
  9767. 01:46:11,876 --> 01:46:15,210
  9768. "The founding fathers
  9769. gave the free press...
  9770.  
  9771. 2123
  9772. 01:46:15,212 --> 01:46:17,982
  9773. "the protection
  9774. it must have...
  9775.  
  9776. 2124
  9777. 01:46:20,384 --> 01:46:24,488
  9778. "to fulfill its essential role
  9779. in our democracy.
  9780.  
  9781. 2125
  9782. 01:46:27,858 --> 01:46:30,191
  9783. "The press was
  9784. to serve the governed,
  9785.  
  9786. 2126
  9787. 01:46:30,193 --> 01:46:31,660
  9788. "not the governors."
  9789.  
  9790. 2127
  9791. 01:46:36,399 --> 01:46:37,400
  9792. Thank you.
  9793.  
  9794. 2128
  9795. 01:46:56,552 --> 01:46:58,189
  9796. That looks great.
  9797.  
  9798. 2129
  9799. 01:47:13,871 --> 01:47:17,505
  9800. You know what my husband
  9801. said about the news?
  9802.  
  9803. 2130
  9804. 01:47:17,507 --> 01:47:20,875
  9805. He called it the first
  9806. rough draft of history.
  9807.  
  9808. 2131
  9809. 01:47:20,877 --> 01:47:23,544
  9810. That's good, isn't it?
  9811.  
  9812. 2132
  9813. 01:47:23,546 --> 01:47:26,313
  9814. Oh, well, we don't always
  9815. get it right, you know?
  9816.  
  9817. 2133
  9818. 01:47:26,315 --> 01:47:28,550
  9819. We're not always perfect,
  9820. but I think
  9821.  
  9822. 2134
  9823. 01:47:28,552 --> 01:47:30,785
  9824. if we just keep on it,
  9825. you know?
  9826.  
  9827. 2135
  9828. 01:47:30,787 --> 01:47:32,322
  9829. That's the job, isn't it?
  9830.  
  9831. 2136
  9832. 01:47:36,792 --> 01:47:38,228
  9833. Yes, it is.
  9834.  
  9835. 2137
  9836. 01:47:53,943 --> 01:47:56,645
  9837. Oh, Ken Clawson came by
  9838. to see me earlier.
  9839.  
  9840. 2138
  9841. 01:47:56,647 --> 01:47:57,779
  9842. Oh?
  9843.  
  9844. 2139
  9845. 01:47:57,781 --> 01:47:59,748
  9846. Apparently,
  9847. Justice is still considering
  9848.  
  9849. 2140
  9850. 01:47:59,750 --> 01:48:01,016
  9851. criminal charges against us.
  9852.  
  9853. 2141
  9854. 01:48:01,018 --> 01:48:02,950
  9855. Yeah, well,
  9856. I bet they are.
  9857.  
  9858. 2142
  9859. 01:48:02,952 --> 01:48:04,285
  9860. And you're not worried.
  9861.  
  9862. 2143
  9863. 01:48:04,287 --> 01:48:06,522
  9864. Nope. No, Katharine,
  9865. that's your job.
  9866.  
  9867. 2144
  9868. 01:48:06,524 --> 01:48:07,989
  9869. I suppose it is.
  9870.  
  9871. 2145
  9872. 01:48:07,991 --> 01:48:11,159
  9873. Oh, thank God the court ruling
  9874. was very clear.
  9875.  
  9876. 2146
  9877. 01:48:11,161 --> 01:48:14,763
  9878. Yeah, well, I'm sure
  9879. Nixon will fall right in line.
  9880.  
  9881. 2147
  9882. 01:48:14,765 --> 01:48:16,196
  9883. Hmm.
  9884. Good, because you know...
  9885.  
  9886. 2148
  9887. 01:48:16,198 --> 01:48:17,965
  9888. I don't think
  9889. I could ever live through
  9890.  
  9891. 2149
  9892. 01:48:17,967 --> 01:48:19,604
  9893. something like this again.
  9894.  
  9895. 2150
  9896. 01:48:21,104 --> 01:48:23,071
  9897. I want it
  9898. clearly understood
  9899.  
  9900. 2151
  9901. 01:48:23,073 --> 01:48:25,539
  9902. that from now on, ever...
  9903.  
  9904. 2152
  9905. 01:48:25,541 --> 01:48:28,177
  9906. no reporter
  9907. from The Washington Post
  9908.  
  9909. 2153
  9910. 01:48:28,179 --> 01:48:29,878
  9911. is ever to be
  9912. in the White House.
  9913.  
  9914. 2154
  9915. 01:48:29,880 --> 01:48:31,482
  9916. - Is that clear?
  9917. - Absolutely.
  9918.  
  9919. 2155
  9920. 01:48:32,983 --> 01:48:35,416
  9921. Never.
  9922. Never in the White House.
  9923.  
  9924. 2156
  9925. 01:48:35,418 --> 01:48:38,920
  9926. No church service.
  9927. Nothing that Mrs. Nixon does.
  9928.  
  9929. 2157
  9930. 01:48:38,922 --> 01:48:40,856
  9931. You tell Connie,
  9932. "Don't tell Mrs. Nixon,"
  9933.  
  9934. 2158
  9935. 01:48:40,858 --> 01:48:42,089
  9936. 'cause she'll approve it.
  9937.  
  9938. 2159
  9939. 01:48:42,091 --> 01:48:44,927
  9940. No reporter
  9941. from The Washington Post
  9942.  
  9943. 2160
  9944. 01:48:44,929 --> 01:48:47,227
  9945. is ever to be
  9946. in the White House again.
  9947.  
  9948. 2161
  9949. 01:48:47,229 --> 01:48:48,897
  9950. And no photographer either.
  9951.  
  9952. 2162
  9953. 01:48:48,899 --> 01:48:50,598
  9954. No photographer,
  9955. is that clear?
  9956.  
  9957. 2163
  9958. 01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:52,767
  9959. None ever to be in.
  9960.  
  9961. 2164
  9962. 01:48:52,769 --> 01:48:54,335
  9963. Now that is a total order.
  9964.  
  9965. 2165
  9966. 01:48:54,337 --> 01:48:56,170
  9967. And if necessary,
  9968. I'll fire you.
  9969.  
  9970. 2166
  9971. 01:48:56,172 --> 01:48:57,804
  9972. - You understand?
  9973. - I do understand.
  9974.  
  9975. 2167
  9976. 01:48:57,806 --> 01:49:00,411
  9977. Okay. All right. Good.
  9978.  
  9979. 2168
  9980. 01:49:20,965 --> 01:49:22,496
  9981. DC police, second precinct.
  9982.  
  9983. 2169
  9984. 01:49:22,498 --> 01:49:24,333
  9985. Yes, hello.
  9986. This is Frank Wills.
  9987.  
  9988. 2170
  9989. 01:49:24,335 --> 01:49:26,168
  9990. I think we might have
  9991. a burglary in progress
  9992.  
  9993. 2171
  9994. 01:49:26,170 --> 01:49:28,072
  9995. at The Watergate.
  9996.  
  9997. 2172
  9998. 01:49:28,074 --> 01:49:33,074
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