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  1. [21:05] <TTi> Ok, time to start
  2. [21:05] * TTi sets mode: +m
  3. [21:05] <TTi> Welcome to everyone
  4. [21:06] <TTi> Sorry for my fuckup with ereptime
  5. [21:06] <TTi> If you have a comment etc please PM me for voice
  6. [21:06] <TTi> Agenda.
  7. [21:06] <TTi> 1. State of EDEN
  8. [21:06] <TTi> 2. Full membership of Albania (proposed by Romania)
  9. [21:06] <TTi> 3. Status on Bg / Tr situation - TTi + CPs Bg / Tr
  10. [21:06] <TTi> 4. Discussion on Isr / Cyp situation.
  11. [21:06] <TTi> We might need to flip 3 and 4 if kloraq wont make here earlier
  12. [21:07] * TTi sets mode: -m
  13. [21:07] <TTi> Ok, any questions
  14. [21:07] <TTi> at this point
  15. [21:07] <diuras> and please you must remember ... what happens in vegas stays in vegas!
  16. [21:07] <diuras> we don't want to see our summit log in pastebin
  17. [21:07] <TTi> yeah, so atleast 10 minutes before seeing the logs around ;)
  18. [21:07] <TTi> Ok, lets proceed
  19. [21:07] * TTi sets mode: +m
  20. [21:08] <TTi> I have prepared a short speach of the current state of eden
  21. [21:08] <TTi> Will copy paste it here not for all to see
  22. [21:08] <TTi> I have now been SC for a week and this has been quite a busy one. Situation between Bg/Tr has taken a lot of time, but there are ofc the whole other alliance to follow up too.
  23. [21:08] <TTi> During the last 1.5-2 weeks we have seen a lot better coordination of efforts from ONE and they seem to have been able to find the clue again on the battlefields. At the same time I see some worrying signs within our alliance.
  24. [21:08] <TTi> We are now spending huge amounts of time with our internal disputes and solving issues with counties from Terra. This is all away from our main focus of defending our own cores and interests and wiping the floor with ONEfags.
  25. [21:08] <TTi> Also what I have notices, what started to happen slowly during last months is a slow degeneration of the level and quality of communication between us. And I must say that this is maybe the most troubling symtom there are.
  26. [21:09] <TTi> I am hearing a lot of issues in different unofficial and backchannel discussions, whether they are about the "new" hq, or they are about someones needs for bonuses or about feeling not appreciated or supported within the alliance.
  27. [21:09] <TTi> But at the same time, I am asking CPs to propose candidates to HQ, asking to tell me about issues and needs, asking a lot of things, but I get a wall of silence.
  28. [21:09] <TTi> I do not have a straight answer or fix to this. Only thing I can say is that this way we will be kicked on the balls by ONE really soon. I urge you to use the CP messageboard, IG messages to me/HQ and bring those topics on the table.
  29. [21:09] <TTi> As a tl;dr version. We are doing quite ok, but we have a lot of dark clouds around us and we need to get our act together and fast.
  30. [21:09] <TTi> Damn, it wasnt that long in notepad :/
  31. [21:10] <TTi> So, please read through and comment/discuss if needed
  32. [21:10] * TTi sets mode: -m
  33. [21:10] <Atracurium[CN]> sorry, something not related. is Kelemeta the EO of EDEN?
  34. [21:10] <TTi> Yes
  35. [21:10] <Kromov[UKR]> (clap) I support you about degeneration of comunication´s level
  36. [21:11] <Atracurium[CN]> Thanks. Just to make sure before we make payment.
  37. [21:11] <TTi> :)
  38. [21:11] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> I agree with that constatations and I belive that we'll solve most of them tonight
  39. [21:11] <Kromov[UKR]> +1
  40. [21:11] <Justino[PT]> I hope we do solve them tonight, all this silence is... bad
  41. [21:12] <Kromov[UKR]> believe me, the silence on summit is usual
  42. [21:12] <Kromov[UKR]> xD
  43. [21:12] <TTi> lol
  44. [21:12] <Nino54[AL]> Communication is the key of success in this game :)
  45. [21:13] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> i belive communication will be better when we come to more important themes
  46. [21:13] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> this is more like situation now
  47. [21:13] <TTi> Ok, I think this has been read and noted?
  48. [21:13] <Endymionis[NO]> I would like to add one thing
  49. [21:13] <TTi> Please do
  50. [21:14] <Endymionis[NO]> I would like info about attacks and war planing to be more avaliable
  51. [21:14] <Endymionis[NO]> right now it seems like everyone is doing their own thing
  52. [21:15] * KoHaH is now known as KoHaH[HQ]
  53. [21:15] <TTi> I agree. Atm we do not have an actual MC to do that job
  54. [21:15] <Kromov[UKR]> we need more transparency in war plannings
  55. [21:15] <TTi> ZDlemmy is doing it as "acting" and dont have enought time to put into it atm
  56. [21:15] <TTi> So I would at this point agains ask all CPs to be active in finding us a good new MC
  57. [21:16] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> and i think we can admit that we're kind a lost withouth zdlemmy
  58. [21:16] <TTi> Well, he is superusefull to us and needed
  59. [21:17] <TTi> But dont have that 100% dedication atm to HQ as he has much other responsibilities too
  60. [21:18] <TTi> Ok, other comments?
  61. [21:18] <TTi> Ok, proceeding
  62. [21:18] <Koze[Fin]> dont let russia out of eden too easily no matter what happens.. this will cause a cumulative effect
  63. [21:19] <TTi> Russia out of eden?
  64. [21:19] <KoHaH[HQ]> Russia is TERRA member, not EDEN's one ;)
  65. [21:19] <TTi> They are Terra ;)
  66. [21:19] <TTi> Or do you mean the situation with Rus/Nor/Swe?
  67. [21:19] <Koze[Fin]> referring this norway deal
  68. [21:19] <TTi> ok
  69. [21:19] * hoffa13 sets mode: +I LitoII!*@*
  70. [21:19] <TTi> Well get back to that later on
  71. [21:19] <TTi> 2. Full membership of Albania (proposed by Romania)
  72. [21:19] <TTi> naufragiatu[RO], as Ro rep, your turn
  73. [21:19] * LitoII ([email protected]) has joined #EDEN.summit
  74. [21:20] <naufragiatu[RO]> ok
  75. [21:20] * ChanServ sets mode: +h LitoII
  76. [21:21] <naufragiatu[RO]> Although I am a little in the dark about this, RO CP GeluRomanu ( who should appear shortly ) asked me to propose in his stead Albania as a full member
  77. [21:21] <naufragiatu[RO]> I know that from the start
  78. [21:21] * oDdkID ([email protected]) has joined #EDEN.summit
  79. [21:21] <naufragiatu[RO]> EDEN worked on showing what the brotherhood stands for
  80. [21:21] * oDdkID is now known as oDdkID[BY]
  81. [21:21] <oDdkID[BY]> hey there
  82. [21:22] <naufragiatu[RO]> and I know that Albania, although a small country, has bled along side with all of EDEN and stood their ground, even when times were/are tough
  83. [21:22] <naufragiatu[RO]> they have shown support to EDEN all the time they could, whether we talk about damage, or opening wars and even, at times, suicide missions ( :( )
  84. [21:23] <naufragiatu[RO]> And therefor RO feels that Albania deserves a place among the brotherhood
  85. [21:23] <naufragiatu[RO]> As I understand Nino54[AL] has a little speech of his own, so I will pass the mic to him
  86. [21:23] <naufragiatu[RO]> thank you
  87. [21:23] <TTi> Thanks
  88. [21:23] <TTi> Nino54[AL], floor is yours
  89. [21:24] <Nino54[AL]> Hello to all of you
  90. [21:24] <Nino54[AL]> I will try to talk shortly about our issue
  91. [21:24] <Nino54[AL]> So I have been in lead of Albanian community since it wasnt in the map
  92. [21:25] <Nino54[AL]> And since there we made some meetings with EDEN HQ,firstly when Ms Carmen was SC and the Sirbeg
  93. [21:25] <Nino54[AL]> we showed full support for EDEN
  94. [21:26] <Nino54[AL]> After Albania joined the map,and After Octavious left,together with NL and IN we created (with aproval of EDEN HQ) GEA
  95. [21:28] <Nino54[AL]> We organised our new country and started to help and get help. Ofc we are a new country but we are trying to be as powerful as we can.
  96. [21:28] * hoffa13 sets mode: +I kelemeta!*@*
  97. [21:29] * kelemeta ([email protected]) has joined #EDEN.summit
  98. [21:29] * ChanServ sets mode: +h kelemeta
  99. [21:29] <Nino54[AL]> All our prios and all our hits are made for EDEN,because we fell here the brotherhood that all of us want. We have been helped by all EDEN countries when we have had battles
  100. [21:29] <Nino54[AL]> and this shows to our community the real brotherhood in the game
  101. [21:30] * kelemeta is now known as kelemeta[CRO]
  102. [21:30] <Nino54[AL]> Finally. I have sent a pm to all of you before this summit and asked you for any suggestions about this issue,it seemed all of you welcomed the idea,nbut now it is officially. So if u have any question or cooment,please do it
  103. [21:31] <Nino54[AL]> done thanks TTi
  104. [21:31] <TTi> Ok thanks you
  105. [21:31] <TTi> Now, CP/reps. If you have any questions or comments at this point?
  106. [21:31] * kelemeta[CRO] is now known as kelemeta[HQ]
  107. [21:31] <TTi> one at the time, so I dont need to play with this moderate shit ;)
  108. [21:32] <Justino[PT]> I believe Albania deserves their leaf
  109. [21:32] <TTi> ok, Olivaneksa[CRO]
  110. [21:32] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> I agree that Albania should be part of EDEN
  111. [21:32] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> they maybe aren't strong country for now
  112. [21:33] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> but i'm there from the very beginning
  113. [21:33] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> and they always work for eden priorities
  114. [21:33] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> and i belive they will manage to get more people
  115. [21:33] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> and become one of the strongest countries in eworld
  116. [21:34] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> thanks, i'm done :)
  117. [21:34] <TTi> ty
  118. [21:34] <TTi> others?
  119. [21:34] <Absfresh[BG]> I think Albania worked hard to achieve full membership and deserved it
  120. [21:34] <Koze[Fin]> albania has helped us a lot in our war with estonia, so I am fully behind their approval
  121. [21:35] <Glorietta[IT]> i agree with Absfresh[BG] and Olivaneksa[CRO]
  122. [21:35] <TTi> Not time to vote yet you guys ;)
  123. [21:35] <TTi> Question?
  124. [21:35] <Koze[Fin]> questions or comments you said ;)
  125. [21:35] <Kromov[UKR]> no from Ukraine
  126. [21:35] <TTi> Lets move to the vote then
  127. [21:36] <Kromov[UKR]> Ukraine votes in favour
  128. [21:36] <TTi> We are voting on: Do you accept Albania as a full member of EDEN?
  129. [21:36] <ArikAharon[ISR]> israel too
  130. [21:36] <TTi> Vote, YES/NO <insert country here>
  131. [21:36] <Justino[PT]> Portugal votes YES
  132. [21:36] <ArikAharon[ISR]> YES eIsrael
  133. [21:36] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> Croatia YES
  134. [21:36] <Koze[Fin]> YES Finland
  135. [21:37] <Glorietta[IT]> YES Italy
  136. [21:37] <Atracurium[CN]> YES, China.
  137. [21:37] <Absfresh[BG]> Bulgaria : YES
  138. [21:37] <oDdkID[BY]> YES Belarus
  139. [21:37] <TTi> Olivaneksa[CRO]
  140. [21:37] <TTi> TTi diuras hoffa13 mihail_cazacu Fettis kelemeta[HQ] KoHaH[HQ] LitoII naufragiatu[RO] Absfresh[BG] ArikAharon[ISR] Atracurium[CN] Chew-Chew-Shoe[IRE] Eashoa Endymionis[NO] Glorietta[IT] hawkoulis[GR] Justino[PT] Koze[Fin] Kromov[UKR] Nino54[AL] oDdkID[BY]
  141. [21:37] <Endymionis[NO]> Norway votes YEs
  142. [21:37] <Chew-Chew-Shoe[IRE]> YES
  143. [21:37] <Chew-Chew-Shoe[IRE]> wait
  144. [21:37] <Chew-Chew-Shoe[IRE]> Ireland votes yes*
  145. [21:38] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> TTi: ?
  146. [21:38] <naufragiatu[RO]> RO votes YES
  147. [21:38] * JoepOnstenk ([email protected]) has joined #EDEN.summit
  148. [21:38] * JoepOnstenk is now known as Joep_O[NL]
  149. [21:38] <hawkoulis[GR]> yes greece
  150. [21:38] <hoffa13> your vote Olivaneksa[CRO]
  151. [21:38] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> YES Croatia
  152. [21:38] <TTi> He gave it already
  153. [21:38] <naufragiatu[RO]> he likes to vote with both hands
  154. [21:39] <hoffa13> ah yes
  155. [21:39] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> xD
  156. [21:39] <Justino[PT]> Double vote to make it legit
  157. [21:39] <hoffa13> :P:P
  158. [21:39] <TTi> If I can count, I think we have all there
  159. [21:39] <hoffa13> yep
  160. [21:40] <TTi> So, with open arm, WELCOME TO EDEN AS FULL MEMBER ALBANIA
  161. [21:40] <Kromov[UKR]> (clap) and (flower)
  162. [21:40] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> welcome Albania!
  163. [21:40] <Nino54[AL]> Thank you very much for your support brothers
  164. [21:40] <hoffa13> Welcome Albania o/
  165. [21:40] <Justino[PT]> Welcome Albania
  166. [21:40] <Fettis> Welcome o/
  167. [21:40] <Nino54[AL]> We will give our 200%
  168. [21:40] <Joep_O[NL]> \o/
  169. [21:40] <ArikAharon[ISR]> Welcome guys
  170. [21:40] <oDdkID[BY]> One more fag \o/
  171. [21:40] <Joep_O[NL]> o7 Nino54[AL]
  172. [21:40] <oDdkID[BY]> :3
  173. [21:41] <Kromov[UKR]> ArikAharon[ISR] guys and girls ;)
  174. [21:41] <Glorietta[IT]> \o/ Welcome
  175. [21:41] <oDdkID[BY]> lets hug each other
  176. [21:41] <ArikAharon[ISR]> lol guys and girls indeed
  177. [21:41] <Chew-Chew-Shoe[IRE]> Hail Albania! \o/
  178. [21:41] * oDdkID[BY] hugs TTi
  179. [21:41] * Chew-Chew-Shoe[IRE] hugs oDdkID[BY]
  180. [21:41] <hawkoulis[GR]> Welcome Albania
  181. [21:41] <TTi> oh damn, I think we missed oDdkID[BY] :/
  182. [21:41] <Absfresh[BG]> Welcome Albania
  183. [21:41] <TTi> He was sleeping again
  184. [21:41] <Nino54[AL]> Thank u very much again :D all of u :)
  185. [21:41] <TTi> nah, we didnt ;)
  186. [21:42] <oDdkID[BY]> :P
  187. [21:42] <TTi> Ok, lets move on
  188. [21:43] <TTi> Lets jump to topic #4
  189. [21:43] <TTi> So we could get Kloraq onboard for #3
  190. [21:43] <ArikAharon[ISR]> us ?
  191. [21:43] <TTi> 4. Discussion on Isr / Cyp situation.
  192. [21:43] <naufragiatu[RO]> \o/
  193. [21:43] <ArikAharon[ISR]> May I speak ?
  194. [21:43] <TTi> I invited ISR/Cyp/Terra reps to a meeting about the situation
  195. [21:44] <TTi> It was held yesterday.
  196. [21:44] * oDdkID[BY] is now known as oDdkID[Terra]
  197. [21:44] <oDdkID[Terra]> Terra`s rep is here :3
  198. [21:44] <TTi> But before goint to that, ArikAharon[ISR], could you open up the situation a bit for us
  199. [21:44] <ArikAharon[ISR]> yes
  200. [21:45] <ArikAharon[ISR]> 2 regions of Saudi Arabia is held by Cyprus right now . they got it after FYROM freed them from us .
  201. [21:45] <ArikAharon[ISR]> Cyprus have this regions for 5-7 months. However, they don't want to share them with us.
  202. [21:46] <ArikAharon[ISR]> last week , FYROM freed 1 of their regions in Egypt , Sinai. And we NE Egpyt , and got this region.
  203. [21:46] <ArikAharon[ISR]> Since there , we offered Cyprus any kind of agreement , along side with Terra
  204. [21:47] <ArikAharon[ISR]> However, they said no. their prospal to us : Free sinai . what Israel will get? nothing
  205. [21:47] <ArikAharon[ISR]> They are planning to attack us this night. with mercs
  206. [21:47] <ArikAharon[ISR]> Any questions?
  207. [21:47] <TTi> You had the meeting yesterday, did it bring any news?
  208. [21:48] <ArikAharon[ISR]> yes. we offered them 20k rent money. every month. they said no
  209. [21:48] <TTi> I understood that Terra is also supporting the deal?
  210. [21:48] <ArikAharon[ISR]> Today they even published the talks I had with Cyprus CP
  211. [21:49] <ArikAharon[ISR]> Terra doesn't support Cyprus attack tonight , but they won't do anything
  212. [21:49] <oDdkID[Terra]> Its kinda complicated situation for Terra
  213. [21:49] <oDdkID[Terra]> iNCi becomes uncontrollable
  214. [21:49] <TTi> Ok, so basically what I have undertood from all of this, Israel has been very friendly toward Cyprus in this, giving the regiont when Cyp was bigger and now would compensate it. But talks with Cyprus are not moving.
  215. [21:49] * Eashoa is now known as Eashoa[TR]
  216. [21:49] <ArikAharon[ISR]> Cyrpus is using force against us, a member in EDEN...
  217. [21:50] <TTi> I do not want a new Terra/EDEN Conflict with this, but I think Israel has a valid argument
  218. [21:50] <TTi> and if Cyp is going to attack...
  219. [21:50] <TTi> So, CPs, What do you think of this?
  220. [21:51] * Fettis ([email protected]) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
  221. [21:51] <oDdkID[Terra]> Im sure that this confict will not become Terra/EDEN one
  222. [21:52] <oDdkID[Terra]> cuz Terra HQ will do it best to convince Cyprus
  223. [21:52] <oDdkID[Terra]> in any way
  224. [21:52] <Kromov[UKR]> Israel is EDEn´s memeber and our fried, we should help, as for as, in a diplomatic way
  225. [21:52] <Joep_O[NL]> Can I say something?
  226. [21:52] <TTi> Yes, go ahead Joep_O[NL]
  227. [21:52] <Joep_O[NL]> I think iNCi has been misbehaving really bad
  228. [21:52] <Joep_O[NL]> and that Israel is right in this part
  229. [21:53] <Joep_O[NL]> even though, the region might have been Cypriot
  230. [21:53] <Joep_O[NL]> before FYROM RW'ed it
  231. [21:53] <Joep_O[NL]> iNCi's behaviour is ridiculous
  232. [21:53] <Joep_O[NL]> and IMO does not respect Israel as a member state of the EDEN alliance
  233. [21:53] * GeluRomanu ([email protected]) has joined #EDEN.summit
  234. [21:54] <oDdkID[Terra]> GeluRomanu \o/
  235. [21:54] <naufragiatu[RO]> GeluRomanu will be representing RO from now on
  236. [21:54] * naufragiatu[RO] is now known as naufragiatu
  237. [21:54] <GeluRomanu> sry for the delay
  238. [21:54] * GeluRomanu is now known as GeluRomanu[RO]
  239. [21:55] <ArikAharon[ISR]> Israel was with EDEN in the hard times. Now we need help.
  240. [21:55] <ArikAharon[ISR]> diplomatic, and some DNG tonight..
  241. [21:55] <ArikAharon[ISR]> DMG*
  242. [21:55] <Kromov[UKR]> Chile was kicked from Terra. What problem are with Cyprus?
  243. [21:57] <oDdkID[Terra]> ArikAharon[ISR]
  244. [21:57] <oDdkID[Terra]> what about Sinai?
  245. [21:57] <ArikAharon[ISR]> we are willing to give it to Cyprus if they will give us Saudi
  246. [21:57] <ArikAharon[ISR]> but they want jack pot
  247. [21:57] <ArikAharon[ISR]> they want to hold them both
  248. [21:58] <ArikAharon[ISR]> and free Sinai by fighting in RW against Israel
  249. [21:58] <oDdkID[Terra]> prolly it will help if u do the first step in solving this confict
  250. [21:58] <ArikAharon[ISR]> they fought already , but we managed to keep it . however this night is going to be hard
  251. [21:58] <oDdkID[Terra]> cuz inci are not very dimpomatic guys
  252. [21:59] <ArikAharon[ISR]> we offered them a rent money , even due all of the israeli people think that Saudi should be israel
  253. [22:00] <TTi> Ok. I think that we as need to keep up the talks with Terra and Cyp directly
  254. [22:01] <ArikAharon[ISR]> and what about tonight ?
  255. [22:01] <TTi> But we will also prepare defences if Cyp attacks
  256. [22:01] <TTi> I hope that all CP support this issue via own diplomatic channels
  257. [22:02] <TTi> Ok.
  258. [22:02] <Kromov[UKR]> yes, of course
  259. [22:02] <oDdkID[Terra]> TTi Terra summit has started 2 mins ago
  260. [22:02] <oDdkID[Terra]> we will discuss Cyprus issue too
  261. [22:03] <TTi> ok, I hope that it brings more light to this matter
  262. [22:03] <oDdkID[Terra]> ArikAharon[ISR] u are welcome to query me if u need some details
  263. [22:03] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> keep us informed :)
  264. [22:03] <oDdkID[Terra]> about Terra`s position
  265. [22:03] <TTi> Time to move to our last and maybe the most difficult topic on the agende
  266. [22:03] <TTi> after that we can handle other things if we have time
  267. [22:04] <TTi> I have again prepared a little "speach" to start with
  268. [22:04] <TTi> Will put on the "moderation" for a while
  269. [22:04] * TTi sets mode: +m
  270. [22:04] <TTi> 3. Status on Bg / Tr situation
  271. [22:05] <TTi> Situation with Turkey and Bulgaria. I will now share my thoughts and interpretation of the situation as neutral as I can.
  272. [22:05] <TTi> As we know we have had a difficult situation with tension building up between Tr and BG for past months resulting in talks, talks and even more talks, huge amounts of trolling IG and different incidents on the battlefield.
  273. [22:05] <TTi> I have now been talking a lot to representatives from both sides and the situation is difficult. We have very bad athmosphere within both countries citisens, promises made around and a lot of different opinnions.
  274. [22:05] <TTi> There are also couple of really fundamentally difficult things in the discussion. Tr was brought on the discussions with a promise of 1 months trial and then full membership and Bg on the otherhands with a message of trial and then lets see what happens. OFC in this also a lot of different opinnions and interpretations.
  275. [22:05] <TTi> I will skip the details from the middle and get to the point where we are now. Bg/Tr reps may bring up more in their briefs after me.
  276. [22:05] <TTi> In short. What Tr is saying. They hope to get full membership before they can continue discussions about the two regions Bg is interested. And also saying that they are getting more and more pressure internally against EDEN due the trial status.
  277. [22:05] <TTi> What Bg is saying. They hope to get those two regions now but cannot vote for full membership nor quarantee when that could happen due internal political climate.
  278. [22:05] <TTi> There have been variations with the proposals but basically that is where we end up everytime.
  279. [22:05] <TTi> So, my personal opinnion. This issue has been on the table too long and are now undermining the foundation of EDEN. Neather side are willing to bend from their "demand" regarding the full membership and ofc both are entitled to have their opinnion. But right now we are in a stalemate and nothing is happening.
  280. [22:05] <TTi> Right now I do not see this situation as a win/win and I dont think that we can get all the goods in any scenario.
  281. [22:06] <TTi> I need the opinnion now from you Country Presidents (or reps), what should we do. Continue with this or what? We have options. Setting a deadline to this, continuing like this, ending this now, changing the negotiation team, what ever. But you need to put in your ideas, cause we cannot just continue by hoping the best.
  282. [22:06] * Eashoa[TR] ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"])
  283. [22:07] <TTi> Ok, BG Absfresh[BG], you have a word now
  284. [22:07] * TTi sets mode: +v Absfresh[BG]
  285. [22:07] <Absfresh[BG]> Hello everybody
  286. [22:08] <Absfresh[BG]> Eden is brotherhood and here everyone should help its brothers in the name of the common prosperity. We requested officially the regions of Mazandaran and Semnan from Turkey in exchange for them being in GEA.
  287. [22:08] <Absfresh[BG]> They rejected our offer and named it condescending, thus ignoring the compromise we were ready to do. Obviously if eBulgaria takes these regions, Eden will benefit as a whole.
  288. [22:08] * hoffa13 sets mode: +I Eashoa!*@*
  289. [22:08] * Eashoa ([email protected]) has joined #EDEN.summit
  290. [22:08] <TTi> Absfresh[BG], please repeat now that Eashoa is back
  291. [22:08] <Absfresh[BG]> Those are only two regions - we are not asking for much. They are neither core, nor unique resource regions for Turkey. Otherwise we would have understood their reaction, but now it doesn't make sense.
  292. [22:09] <Absfresh[BG]> Eden is brotherhood and here everyone should help its brothers in the name of the common prosperity. We requested officially the regions of Mazandaran and Semnan from Turkey in exchange for them being in GEA.
  293. [22:09] <Absfresh[BG]> They rejected our offer and named it condescending, thus ignoring the compromise we were ready to do. Obviously if eBulgaria takes these regions, Eden will benefit as a whole.
  294. [22:09] <Absfresh[BG]> Those are only two regions - we are not asking for much. They are neither core, nor unique resource regions for Turkey. Otherwise we would have understood their reaction, but now it doesn't make sense.
  295. [22:09] <Absfresh[BG]> Moreover their VP Eashoa posted trolling article against us. We simply ask Eden to aid Bulgaria in this issue because of the people that voted for Bulgaria to stay in Eden.
  296. [22:10] <Absfresh[BG]> We talked a lot, waste a huge amount of time. The time for decision came. I want promise right now from Turkey, they will give us those 2 regions starting from the next RW
  297. [22:11] <Absfresh[BG]> Or we will ask for voting for expelling Turkey from Eden
  298. [22:12] <Absfresh[BG]> 10 days ago, Cratioan president, as a mediator, gave me a clear promise. You accept them fot trial, and if they do NOT give you those two regions, the Eden is closed page forever
  299. [22:12] <Absfresh[BG]> I can provide it to you
  300. [22:12] <Absfresh[BG]> So, No more time for wasitng
  301. [22:12] <Absfresh[BG]> We want actions now
  302. [22:12] <Absfresh[BG]> thats all
  303. [22:13] <TTi> Ok, thank you
  304. [22:13] * TTi sets mode: +v Eashoa
  305. [22:13] <TTi> Kloraq should be here any moment now, Eashoa, do you want to wait or do you want to say something at this point?
  306. [22:14] <TTi> I will now open the channel for discussion. But please remember the respect here and speak one by one
  307. [22:14] * TTi sets mode: -m
  308. [22:15] * TTi sets mode: -v Absfresh[BG]
  309. [22:15] * TTi sets mode: -v Eashoa
  310. [22:15] <Eashoa> I can provide background infor briefly if requested
  311. [22:15] <TTi> Please do Eashoa
  312. [22:16] <Eashoa> While all eyes are fixed on the faltering Turkish-Bulgarian conflict, eTurkey is involved in another diplomatic rapprochement whose consequences may be just as favorable for the future of the EDEN.
  313. [22:17] <Eashoa> ust two days before the EDEN's attack on eSerbia via eBulgaria that was commenced on 22th January (approximate date is given), eTurkey offered eBulgaria to be ally, and also promised full-force support in their battles as a sight of brotherhood.[/b] eBulgaria, on the other hand, accepted this deal but also requested two regions from Iran for their economical development: Mazandaran-and-Golistan and Semnan. eTurkey's
  314. [22:17] <Eashoa> for this request was unconditionally possitive, and eTurkey decided to give those two regions to eBulgaria free for the sake of EDEN and occupied eUkranian regions in that time.
  315. [22:18] <Eashoa> With the witness of EDEN Administration, both sides agreed to make it real on 26th January due to the risk of coming congress elections and the possibility of the liberation of the regions under the control of Turkey by ONE, with the request of EDEN. Nevertheless, eBulgaria did not adhere to the deal and never offered mpp to eTurkey in the following days. With the witness of EDEN Administration, again, eBulgaria ca
  316. [22:18] <Eashoa> eTurkey and wanted to take the regions without fulfil the mpp requisite, as if they had right to do that. eTurkey's answer to this proposal was a clear "no." Erstwhile allies whose deteriorating relations undermined the security of the entire EDEN Brotherhood. This conflict -- more than eBulgaria's outreach to eTurkey or tensions with the EDEN administration -- called starkly into question the role that eTurkey wil
  317. [22:18] <Eashoa> in regional politics and also in EDEN by eBulgaria “without good justifications.”
  318. [22:18] <Eashoa> he most recent standoff during my term between eTurkey and eBulgaria was sparked by the organized attacks of eBulgaria in Turkey's occupied regions with no any rights .
  319. [22:19] <Eashoa> eTurkey was expecting an apology and reparations after the massive attacks by eBulgarians. With the request of EDEN.HQ, however, both sides decided to make an agreement under EDEN's observation. however just two days ago, BG attacked to Turkey's region again
  320. [22:19] <Absfresh[BG]> this is not true
  321. [22:20] <Eashoa> I can provide logs and screen shoots if CPs request
  322. [22:20] <Absfresh[BG]> when we signed the agreement, we didnot attacked you anymore
  323. [22:20] <Absfresh[BG]> yes pls
  324. [22:20] <hawkoulis[GR]> Absfresh[BG] wll you sign mpp with turkey?
  325. [22:20] <Absfresh[BG]> no
  326. [22:20] <Absfresh[BG]> this is not the task now
  327. [22:20] <hawkoulis[GR]> if turkey propose you mpp you ll deny it?
  328. [22:21] <Chew-Chew-Shoe[IRE]> I would too like to see logs and screens.
  329. [22:21] <Absfresh[BG]> no mpp
  330. [22:21] <Absfresh[BG]> we could stay in one and the same alliance just because of Eden, but never be friends
  331. [22:22] <Eashoa> by respecting, I would like to inform everybody that BG CP does not use a politic language
  332. [22:22] <Eashoa> please be polite
  333. [22:22] <TTi> Everyone needs to be calm or we wont get anywhere today eather
  334. [22:23] <Eashoa> yes please
  335. [22:23] <Eashoa> anyway after all,
  336. [22:23] <Eashoa> eTurkey cannot give any single region to any country, including eBulgaria, without making referendum among Turkish players.
  337. [22:23] <hawkoulis[GR]> polite ?
  338. [22:23] <Eashoa> eBulgaria should have respected to this decision as eTurkey had respected their
  339. [22:23] <Eashoa> referandum decision.
  340. [22:23] <hawkoulis[GR]> TTi BG is acting like a trader
  341. [22:23] <Eashoa> Bulgaria had not given enough time to Turkish side to make referandum but insisted on it
  342. [22:23] <Eashoa> because of approacing CP elections in the previous conflict
  343. [22:23] <hawkoulis[GR]> a mercenary
  344. [22:24] <hawkoulis[GR]> is this summit a mercenary summit?
  345. [22:24] <hawkoulis[GR]> to trade goods materials
  346. [22:24] * TTi sets mode: +m
  347. [22:24] <TTi> Ok, lets get back to moderated environment.
  348. [22:24] <TTi> I will now give a speach to each CP/rep one by one
  349. [22:25] <TTi> Please say what you think about the situation and ask if you have questions
  350. [22:25] <TTi> I will start from the end of the list
  351. [22:25] * TTi sets mode: +v Olivaneksa[CRO]
  352. [22:25] <TTi> Olivaneksa[CRO], Cro stance on the situation?
  353. [22:25] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> i would firstly like to know how will bulgaria conquer those 2 regions as they don't have border with them
  354. [22:26] * TTi sets mode: +v Absfresh[BG]
  355. [22:26] <TTi> I think it goes trought that grey region? Absfresh[BG], can you confirm?
  356. [22:26] <Absfresh[BG]> we have
  357. [22:27] <Absfresh[BG]> volga has border
  358. [22:27] <Absfresh[BG]> and we already got volga
  359. [22:27] <TTi> Ok, thanks
  360. [22:27] * TTi sets mode: -v Absfresh[BG]
  361. [22:27] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> ok thanks :)
  362. [22:27] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> croatian stance is this
  363. [22:27] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> turkey gives region to bulgaria
  364. [22:27] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> however they are not important to them
  365. [22:28] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> nor core nor needed for resources
  366. [22:28] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> but then, bulgaria accepts mpp
  367. [22:28] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> and continues to act like in brotherhood
  368. [22:28] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> i can't see why is that so big problem
  369. [22:28] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> first of all this is game
  370. [22:28] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> get over it
  371. [22:29] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> and of course all activities against alliance must stop
  372. [22:29] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> too much dmg is thrown away
  373. [22:29] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> which could win important battles
  374. [22:29] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> this problem must be solved immediately
  375. [22:30] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> and i please both sides to find their together language
  376. [22:30] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> and solve this once forever
  377. [22:30] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> i would like to know main reason why bulgaria don't want to sign mpp with turkey
  378. [22:30] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> and we're not talking about history now
  379. [22:30] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> turks showed that they will fight for eden
  380. [22:30] * TTi sets mode: +v Absfresh[BG]
  381. [22:31] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> and they are fighting
  382. [22:31] <TTi> Absfresh[BG], ^
  383. [22:31] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> you cannot say that they aren't
  384. [22:31] <TTi> Main reason not to sign MPP`
  385. [22:31] <TTi> ?
  386. [22:31] <Absfresh[BG]> So, the promises were clear
  387. [22:31] <Absfresh[BG]> we accept them for trial, they give us regions
  388. [22:31] <Absfresh[BG]> we will never sign mpp
  389. [22:31] <Absfresh[BG]> the reason is, we need enemy
  390. [22:32] <Absfresh[BG]> ghe game is boring for the bulgarians
  391. [22:32] <TTi> You need enemy? How does that link to Tr MPP?
  392. [22:32] <Absfresh[BG]> and accepting Turkey in Eden, you blocked us
  393. [22:32] <Absfresh[BG]> 99% of the bulgarians , will never accept this
  394. [22:32] <naufragiatu> Absfresh[BG] : bg did not have war with TR for a huge amount of time and was not interested in warring them. That until, they became eden friendly
  395. [22:32] <Absfresh[BG]> they will leave the game, if we sgn it
  396. [22:33] <TTi> ok
  397. [22:33] * TTi sets mode: -v Absfresh[BG]
  398. [22:33] <TTi> Olivaneksa[CRO], ready?
  399. [22:33] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> i cannot accept that as an answer
  400. [22:33] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> if you accept them as trial members
  401. [22:33] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> they can't be your enemies
  402. [22:34] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> they are not your enemies just because you don't have mpp with them
  403. [22:34] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> it's just stupid reason why to lose dmg
  404. [22:34] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> i'm sure turks want to show whole bulgaria that they will fight for you
  405. [22:34] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> and speaking about enemies
  406. [22:34] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> you are bordering serbia and macedonia
  407. [22:35] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> who are constantly fighting against albania
  408. [22:35] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> why would you not help them?
  409. [22:35] * TTi sets mode: +v Absfresh[BG]
  410. [22:35] <TTi> Absfresh[BG]
  411. [22:35] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> fyrom sorry
  412. [22:35] <Absfresh[BG]> we can
  413. [22:36] <Absfresh[BG]> but we were waiting for this regions swap
  414. [22:36] <Absfresh[BG]> we must free those 2 regions in iran and take them using NE
  415. [22:36] <Absfresh[BG]> you waste so much time in doing nothing
  416. [22:36] <Absfresh[BG]> and we do nothing waiting
  417. [22:37] <TTi> Ok, thanks, lets move on for now.
  418. [22:37] * TTi sets mode: -v Absfresh[BG]
  419. [22:37] * TTi sets mode: -v Olivaneksa[CRO]
  420. [22:37] * TTi sets mode: +v oDdkID[Terra]
  421. [22:37] <TTi> oDdkID[Terra] BY
  422. [22:37] <TTi> Comments, questions ideas?
  423. [22:38] <TTi> Hmm, he is busy in Terra meeting atm, we will get back to him
  424. [22:38] * TTi sets mode: -v oDdkID[Terra]
  425. [22:38] * TTi sets mode: +v Nino54[AL]
  426. [22:38] <TTi> Nino54[AL]
  427. [22:39] <TTi> Nino54[AL]
  428. [22:39] <Nino54[AL]> here
  429. [22:39] <TTi> Comments, questions ideas?
  430. [22:40] <Nino54[AL]> Hmm I understand both sides,and I understand that bulgarian people opinion
  431. [22:40] <Nino54[AL]> But sometimes in a game or even reality government decisions can change the whole world
  432. [22:41] <Nino54[AL]> this can be done in this issue
  433. [22:42] * Kromov[UKR] ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
  434. [22:42] <Nino54[AL]> So I think that both sides should let the argues out of here,and talk logically and for the best of all our brootherhoodd. I dont think we have to waste more time as Absfresh[BG] said
  435. [22:43] <Nino54[AL]> done
  436. [22:43] <TTi> ty
  437. [22:43] * TTi sets mode: -v Nino54[AL]
  438. [22:43] <TTi> Koze would be next on the list, but he is momentarily afk
  439. [22:43] <TTi> So Justino[PT]
  440. [22:43] * TTi sets mode: +v Justino[PT]
  441. [22:43] <TTi> Justino[PT]
  442. [22:44] * TTi sets mode: -v Justino[PT]
  443. [22:44] * TTi sets mode: +v Joep_O[NL]
  444. [22:44] <TTi> Joep_O[NL]
  445. [22:44] <Joep_O[NL]> I don't think I can say anything more
  446. [22:44] * LucifelL ([email protected]) has joined #EDEN.summit
  447. [22:45] <Joep_O[NL]> Bulg and Turk need to solve this out,
  448. [22:45] <TTi> ok
  449. [22:45] <Joep_O[NL]> I can understand both parties
  450. [22:45] * Kromov ([email protected]) has joined #EDEN.summit
  451. [22:45] <Joep_O[NL]> but as said, TR and Bulg haven;'t been that of an enemy for sooooo long
  452. [22:45] <Joep_O[NL]> that they can't collaborate
  453. [22:45] <Joep_O[NL]> GR worked with TR as well
  454. [22:45] <Joep_O[NL]> UA as well
  455. [22:46] <Joep_O[NL]> that's all
  456. [22:46] <TTi> thanks
  457. [22:46] * TTi sets mode: -v Joep_O[NL]
  458. [22:46] * TTi sets mode: +v hawkoulis[GR]
  459. [22:46] <TTi> hawkoulis[GR]
  460. [22:46] <TTi> hawkoulis[GR]
  461. [22:47] <hawkoulis[GR]> yeap
  462. [22:47] <hawkoulis[GR]> [10:31:50~pm] <+Absfresh[BG]> the reason is, we need enemy
  463. [22:47] <hawkoulis[GR]> [10:32:02~pm] <+Absfresh[BG]> ghe game is boring for the bulgarians
  464. [22:47] <hawkoulis[GR]> LoL i want to ask Nino54[AL] and Glorietta[IT] if there is any problem
  465. [22:48] <hawkoulis[GR]> with this phrase
  466. [22:48] <hawkoulis[GR]> [10:32:49~pm] <+Absfresh[BG]> they will leave the game, if we sgn it
  467. [22:48] <TTi> I hope that the questions atm are focused to Tr or BG
  468. [22:48] <hawkoulis[GR]> and all the CPs for this
  469. [22:48] <hawkoulis[GR]> yes
  470. [22:49] <hawkoulis[GR]> when fyrom has attack 2 of our members under attack
  471. [22:49] <hawkoulis[GR]> they dont have enemy?
  472. [22:49] * TTi sets mode: +v Absfresh[BG]
  473. [22:49] <TTi> Absfresh[BG]
  474. [22:50] <Absfresh[BG]> as I said, we were waiting
  475. [22:50] <Absfresh[BG]> for solutions in Iran
  476. [22:50] <Absfresh[BG]> If that happened 10 days ago , we would attack Macedonia
  477. [22:50] <hawkoulis[GR]> this your criteria to help your allies?
  478. [22:50] <Absfresh[BG]> no
  479. [22:50] <Absfresh[BG]> we were tald to wait
  480. [22:51] <Absfresh[BG]> it was promised to us
  481. [22:51] <Absfresh[BG]> and I sent the army and paramilitary everyday on Edens prio
  482. [22:51] <hawkoulis[GR]> You know as i know that this isnt enough
  483. [22:52] <hawkoulis[GR]> although we still are outside of the game cause you dont sign the mpp
  484. [22:52] <Absfresh[BG]> ofc, but we were tald , that this swap will happen
  485. [22:52] <Absfresh[BG]> and we were waiting
  486. [22:52] <TTi> Who promised this?
  487. [22:52] <Absfresh[BG]> we closed our war with LIT-RUS two days ago
  488. [22:52] <Absfresh[BG]> you, berini
  489. [22:53] <TTi> I was not SC at that point :)
  490. [22:53] <Absfresh[BG]> everybody said , we will receive these regions
  491. [22:53] <Absfresh[BG]> now
  492. [22:53] <Absfresh[BG]> not next month
  493. [22:53] <hawkoulis[GR]> yes
  494. [22:53] <hawkoulis[GR]> maybe Eashoa must propose the mpp?
  495. [22:53] <hawkoulis[GR]> and make the swap fast?
  496. [22:54] <Absfresh[BG]> ok, may I say something
  497. [22:54] * TTi sets mode: +v Eashoa
  498. [22:54] <TTi> Eashoa
  499. [22:54] <Eashoa> Absfresh[BG] go head pls
  500. [22:54] <Absfresh[BG]> We are really pissed of all that waitnig and proposing
  501. [22:54] <Absfresh[BG]> lets make a decision now
  502. [22:54] <Absfresh[BG]> I want to propose expelling Turkey from Eden
  503. [22:54] <Absfresh[BG]> or Bulgaria
  504. [22:54] * TTi sets mode: -v Eashoa
  505. [22:55] <Absfresh[BG]> you chose
  506. [22:55] <hawkoulis[GR]> I can
  507. [22:55] * TTi sets mode: -v Absfresh[BG]
  508. [22:55] <hawkoulis[GR]> accept
  509. [22:55] <TTi> Lets wait a bit with that.
  510. [22:55] <hawkoulis[GR]> only if you dont vote Absfresh[BG]
  511. [22:55] <TTi> hawkoulis[GR], other questions?
  512. [22:55] <hawkoulis[GR]> otherwise NO
  513. [22:55] <hawkoulis[GR]> nothing for now
  514. [22:55] <TTi> ok, thanks
  515. [22:55] * TTi sets mode: -v hawkoulis[GR]
  516. [22:56] * TTi sets mode: +v oDdkID[Terra]
  517. [22:56] <TTi> oDdkID[Terra]
  518. [22:56] <oDdkID[Terra]> thx, TTi
  519. [22:56] <oDdkID[Terra]> --BY rep mode ON--
  520. [22:57] <oDdkID[Terra]> so, in my opinion (and also its the official opinion of Belarus), Turkey has done _a lot_ to become EDEN member (trial or full, does not matter)
  521. [22:57] <oDdkID[Terra]> i was rly glad to see their intellegent and diplomatic positions on negotiations
  522. [22:57] <oDdkID[Terra]> and also real actions (i.e. Israel liberating)
  523. [22:58] <oDdkID[Terra]> in my opinion, any country should not "pay" its regions to be accepted
  524. [22:58] <oDdkID[Terra]> we should concider the some objective indicators
  525. [22:58] <oDdkID[Terra]> is coutry is loyal
  526. [22:58] <oDdkID[Terra]> is country is active
  527. [22:59] <oDdkID[Terra]> and, in my mind, Turkey is worthy to be EDEN`s member
  528. [22:59] <oDdkID[Terra]> i cant uderstand how it depends on regions renting
  529. [23:00] <oDdkID[Terra]> as i said, our decision shoud be based on objective data, not on number of regions that country rents to EDEN members
  530. [23:00] <oDdkID[Terra]> im done.
  531. [23:00] <TTi> ty
  532. [23:00] * TTi sets mode: -v oDdkID[Terra]
  533. [23:00] * TTi sets mode: +v Kromov
  534. [23:00] <TTi> kelemeta[HQ]
  535. [23:00] <TTi> ah
  536. [23:01] <TTi> Kromov
  537. [23:01] <Kromov> Thanks
  538. [23:01] <Kromov> Dear CPs and reps.
  539. [23:01] <Kromov> Perhaps Ukraine shoyuls say sorry for all this matter of Bulgarian bonuses
  540. [23:02] <Kromov> *should
  541. [23:02] <Kromov> but I was thinking it before, and think now, than it is not the game of the happy farmer
  542. [23:02] <Kromov> bonuses is not the main topic of our community
  543. [23:03] <Kromov> If you don´y believe me, keep an eye one Israel or Nowway or...
  544. [23:03] <Kromov> [10:31:50~pm] <+Absfresh[BG]> the reason is, we need enemy
  545. [23:04] <Kromov> and I retorically ask: are not Poland your enemy?
  546. [23:04] <Kromov> you have to know, tha all this situation around oland are not very good atm.
  547. [23:05] <Kromov> perhaps because dmg if running away this operations, in wich Bulgaria have to participate
  548. [23:05] <TTi> Ok, this issue about need for enemy was discussed
  549. [23:06] <TTi> Please give me your stance on the issue
  550. [23:06] <Kromov> let me finish pls
  551. [23:06] <Kromov> I said, perhaps Ukraine has to say sorry, but imho Bulgaria has to say sorry too for it behavior with Turkey and all us
  552. [23:07] <Kromov> Bulgarians don´t like Turkish because facts from it history
  553. [23:07] <Kromov> but Ukraine has history too. only between 1932-1933 Russian did a man-made flame wich kill over 7 millions of Ukrainina people
  554. [23:07] <Kromov> the problem is that
  555. [23:08] <Kromov> meanwhile we don´t see in russians of today the guilty of that
  556. [23:08] <Kromov> bulgarians can´t pase the page over his history
  557. [23:08] <Kromov> it´s only a game!
  558. [23:09] * TTi sets mode: +v Absfresh[BG]
  559. [23:09] <Kromov> in RL Ukraine and Poland are more or less friends, here enemies
  560. [23:09] <TTi> Absfresh[BG], requested a comment on this
  561. [23:09] <Absfresh[BG]> there is no RW in this
  562. [23:09] <Kromov> why Bulgaria can´t be more loyal with turkish?
  563. [23:09] <Kromov> and the las topic
  564. [23:09] <Kromov> *last
  565. [23:09] <Absfresh[BG]> this is a game
  566. [23:09] <Absfresh[BG]> we need space, we did not attacked them before
  567. [23:09] <Absfresh[BG]> because od EDEN
  568. [23:10] * TTi sets mode: -v Absfresh[BG]
  569. [23:10] <TTi> Ok, Kromov done?
  570. [23:10] <Kromov> EDEN is ... economical network. Tirkey is not in EDEN. When the will have the trial, they have to let you the regions. imho
  571. [23:10] <TTi> ah, sorry
  572. [23:10] <Kromov> 22:09 Absfresh[BG] we need space, we did not attacked them before
  573. [23:10] <Kromov> Ukraine also need it!
  574. [23:10] <Kromov> The mayor part of Ukrainians want to burn Moscow
  575. [23:10] <Kromov> but we are realist
  576. [23:11] <Kromov> and pragmaic
  577. [23:11] <Kromov> bulgaria has a lot of damage
  578. [23:11] <Kromov> but in EDEN, like other countries, you are at more "primus inter paris"
  579. [23:11] <Kromov> I sorry for this emotional speach
  580. [23:12] <Kromov> really sorry
  581. [23:12] <Kromov> Ukraine hope in a friend solution of this issue
  582. [23:12] <TTi> Ok, thanks
  583. [23:12] * TTi sets mode: -v Kromov
  584. [23:12] * TTi sets mode: +v Glorietta[IT]
  585. [23:12] <TTi> Glorietta[IT]
  586. [23:13] <Glorietta[IT]> yes?
  587. [23:14] <TTi> Italy comments on the situation?
  588. [23:14] <TTi> If any at this point
  589. [23:14] <Glorietta[IT]> i've nothing to add
  590. [23:14] <TTi> Ok, thanks
  591. [23:14] * TTi sets mode: -v Glorietta[IT]
  592. [23:14] * TTi sets mode: +v GeluRomanu[RO]
  593. [23:14] <TTi> GeluRomanu[RO]
  594. [23:15] <GeluRomanu[RO]> mm
  595. [23:15] <GeluRomanu[RO]> this BG - TR issue to be honest has made me loose my minds recently
  596. [23:16] <GeluRomanu[RO]> i'll be honest with you all, if none of BG or TR make sacrifices i don't think we'll ever get to some point with this
  597. [23:16] <GeluRomanu[RO]> decisions must be taken
  598. [23:16] <GeluRomanu[RO]> we have proposals
  599. [23:16] <GeluRomanu[RO]> the others CPs told them
  600. [23:16] <GeluRomanu[RO]> i think this is cannot be discussed anymore because all topics regarding it
  601. [23:16] <GeluRomanu[RO]> are already disscused
  602. [23:17] <GeluRomanu[RO]> in my opinion Bulgaria must receive those 2 regions
  603. [23:17] <GeluRomanu[RO]> but
  604. [23:17] <GeluRomanu[RO]> they have to sign MPP with Turkey
  605. [23:17] <GeluRomanu[RO]> you all discussed the "no enemy matter" so i won't add anything else
  606. [23:17] <GeluRomanu[RO]> sry for being short
  607. [23:17] <TTi> :)
  608. [23:17] <GeluRomanu[RO]> everything has been told
  609. [23:17] <TTi> ty
  610. [23:17] * TTi sets mode: -v GeluRomanu[RO]
  611. [23:17] * TTi sets mode: +v Endymionis[NO]
  612. [23:18] <TTi> Endymionis[NO]
  613. [23:18] <TTi> Endymionis[NO]
  614. [23:18] <Endymionis[NO]> aye
  615. [23:19] <Endymionis[NO]> no comments at this point
  616. [23:19] <TTi> ty
  617. [23:19] * TTi sets mode: -v Endymionis[NO]
  618. [23:19] * TTi sets mode: +v Chew-Chew-Shoe[IRE]
  619. [23:19] <TTi> Chew-Chew-Shoe[IRE]
  620. [23:20] <Chew-Chew-Shoe[IRE]> sup bro
  621. [23:20] <TTi> IRE stance on Bg/Tr
  622. [23:20] <Chew-Chew-Shoe[IRE]> There is really not a whole lot to say about this
  623. [23:20] <Chew-Chew-Shoe[IRE]> Ireland will forever stand with her Bulgarian brothers no matter what may come.
  624. [23:21] <Chew-Chew-Shoe[IRE]> This is a promise we have given the Bulgarians, and it's a promise we are going to keep
  625. [23:21] <Chew-Chew-Shoe[IRE]> No matter how rough things may get between Bulgaria and Turkey, we will always stand behind our proud allies.
  626. [23:22] <TTi> Done?
  627. [23:22] <Chew-Chew-Shoe[IRE]> ye p much bro
  628. [23:22] <TTi> ty
  629. [23:22] * TTi sets mode: -v Chew-Chew-Shoe[IRE]
  630. [23:22] * TTi sets mode: +v Atracurium[CN]
  631. [23:22] <TTi> Atracurium[CN]
  632. [23:22] <Atracurium[CN]> hi
  633. [23:22] <TTi> CN stance/opinnion on Tr/Bg?
  634. [23:23] <Atracurium[CN]> As much as I expect both sides, however I think all should work towards one common interest.
  635. [23:23] <Atracurium[CN]> Like BG has its people to answer to, so does TR.
  636. [23:23] <Atracurium[CN]> Its more towards give and take...
  637. [23:24] <Atracurium[CN]> Right now, I do not see much reason for TR to give... :X
  638. [23:24] <Atracurium[CN]> but I do understand absfresh when he said a mpp will drive his people away..
  639. [23:25] <Atracurium[CN]> But I do want to know, regardless of the outcome tonight...
  640. [23:25] <Atracurium[CN]> will BG proceed to rw the regions nevertheless?
  641. [23:25] * TTi sets mode: +v Absfresh[BG]
  642. [23:25] <TTi> Absfresh[BG]
  643. [23:26] <Absfresh[BG]> as you have seen
  644. [23:26] <Absfresh[BG]> we did not make anymore RW
  645. [23:26] <Absfresh[BG]> only one, and I wrote to Eden and to Turkey
  646. [23:26] <Absfresh[BG]> we did not Tank, Turkey refuse to give us regions and we decide to wait till tonight
  647. [23:27] <Absfresh[BG]> thats all
  648. [23:27] <TTi> Ok, Atracurium[CN]. You have more?
  649. [23:27] * TTi sets mode: -v Absfresh[BG]
  650. [23:27] <Atracurium[CN]> Nope. I'm done. :)
  651. [23:27] <TTi> ty
  652. [23:27] * TTi sets mode: -v Atracurium[CN]
  653. [23:27] * TTi sets mode: +v ArikAharon[ISR]
  654. [23:27] <TTi> ArikAharon[ISR]
  655. [23:27] <ArikAharon[ISR]> o7
  656. [23:28] <ArikAharon[ISR]> :)
  657. [23:28] <TTi> Israel stance/opinnion on the matter?
  658. [23:29] <ArikAharon[ISR]> eIsrael want to keep the current good relations with eBG , However, we are bording with eTR and they used to rule us in the past. So we don't want them out of EDEN.
  659. [23:29] <ArikAharon[ISR]> We expect that the situation will be solved in diplomacy
  660. [23:29] <ArikAharon[ISR]> But eBG can allways count on us as a good friends.
  661. [23:29] <ArikAharon[ISR]> i'm done :)
  662. [23:29] * KoHaH[HQ] is now known as KoHaH
  663. [23:30] <TTi> ty
  664. [23:30] * TTi sets mode: -v ArikAharon[ISR]
  665. [23:30] <TTi> Ok, I will now give "final" words to Eashoa and then Absfresh[BG]. After that I will summaries and then I think we need to deside how do we move on.
  666. [23:30] * TTi sets mode: +v Eashoa
  667. [23:30] <TTi> Eashoa
  668. [23:31] <Eashoa> thx
  669. [23:31] <Eashoa> [17:26:42] <+Absfresh[BG]> we did not Tank, Turkey refuse to give us regions and we decide to wait till tonight
  670. [23:31] <Eashoa> this is two days ago http://battle-watcher.com/battle.php?id=23313
  671. [23:31] <Eashoa> [17:17:16] <Eashoa> [16:54:14] <+Absfresh[BG]> We are really pissed of all that waitnig and proposing
  672. [23:31] <Eashoa> [17:17:16] <Eashoa> [16:54:25] <+Absfresh[BG]> lets make a decision now
  673. [23:31] <Eashoa> [17:17:16] <Eashoa> [16:54:42] <+Absfresh[BG]> I want to propose expelling Turkey from Eden
  674. [23:31] <Eashoa> [17:17:16] <Eashoa> [16:54:45] <+Absfresh[BG]> or Bulgaria
  675. [23:31] <Eashoa> after this, I do not think there is need to talk
  676. [23:31] <Eashoa> but
  677. [23:31] <Eashoa> AFter being a part of this beautiful alliance for last 5 months, I could easily state that %95 of Turkish community are happy to be a part of EDEN brotherhood.
  678. [23:32] <Eashoa> not only two unnecessary iranian regions, we had our plans to leave whole UAE and SA regions to our allies. However, being ally and friendly is Turkey's only and necessary precaution for it. WE can give two regions to only our allies, not a country who constantly attacks, shows hostility, and request expelling of Turkey from eDEN.
  679. [23:32] <Eashoa>
  680. [23:32] <Eashoa> moreover, after 5 months of devotion to EDEN alliance, talking about the two regions for Bulgaria, and trial membership of Turkey here is really disappointing.
  681. [23:32] <Eashoa> we wanted mop with bulgaria in order to improve our relations with them and lessen the aggression with them
  682. [23:32] <Eashoa> but as he stated clearly, BG does not want, and willl never be friend and ally with Turkey
  683. [23:32] <Eashoa> therefore
  684. [23:33] <Eashoa> I request summit to discuss Turkey's full membership, we discussed enough for Bulgarian request for two iranian regions. No mpp, no friendship, nothing but two regions!!!
  685. [23:33] <Eashoa> after Turkey's full-membership, Turkey is ready to do everything for the sake fo eden
  686. [23:33] <Eashoa> one more thing
  687. [23:33] <Eashoa> Turks are waiting for 5 monnths and we are having problem in controlling them
  688. [23:33] <Eashoa> I urge you to make it fast
  689. [23:34] <Eashoa> this is not blackmailing but a real fact as you may consider
  690. [23:34] <Eashoa> eden has to decide for the final
  691. [23:34] <Eashoa> BG=TR cannot solve this problem at all
  692. [23:34] <Eashoa> thx
  693. [23:34] <TTi> Thanks
  694. [23:34] * TTi sets mode: -v Eashoa
  695. [23:34] * TTi sets mode: +v Absfresh[BG]
  696. [23:34] <TTi> Absfresh[BG]
  697. [23:34] <Absfresh[BG]> First I can count 3 months
  698. [23:35] <Absfresh[BG]> not 5
  699. [23:35] <Absfresh[BG]> second Eden is dominating everywhere , so you didnt sacrifice anything
  700. [23:35] <Absfresh[BG]> but we want a decision too
  701. [23:35] <Absfresh[BG]> no more time spending
  702. [23:36] <Absfresh[BG]> so I propose expelling of Turkey, we dont believe them
  703. [23:36] <Absfresh[BG]> they just waste time
  704. [23:36] <Absfresh[BG]> lets take a decision tonight
  705. [23:36] <Absfresh[BG]> Turkey has problems controllint their people
  706. [23:37] <naufragiatu> just to point out 2 things
  707. [23:37] <Absfresh[BG]> but they fihgt against us, Ireland, China, Chle every day
  708. [23:37] <Absfresh[BG]> bulgarians are really difficult to be controlled too
  709. [23:37] <Absfresh[BG]> but they did not go to fight against Tuekey
  710. [23:38] <Absfresh[BG]> we dont have our kasked fighters Lazokrati
  711. [23:38] <naufragiatu> first of all, i see tablov being CH against a pro-EDEN country and secondly, last time I checked the map and the battles, I saw we started losing, I bet Glorietta[IT] would know best
  712. [23:38] <Absfresh[BG]> they , say every day, we cannot control them
  713. [23:38] <hoffa13> [23:36] <Absfresh[BG]> Turkey has problems controllint their people
  714. [23:38] <hoffa13> let's not go there
  715. [23:39] <hoffa13> :)
  716. [23:39] <hoffa13> bg is not saint in that department
  717. [23:39] <Absfresh[BG]> it is not because of all those waiting
  718. [23:39] <Absfresh[BG]> do you remember 4 months ago
  719. [23:39] <Absfresh[BG]> we fought only for the alliance
  720. [23:40] <Absfresh[BG]> and if we must wait another 2 weeks
  721. [23:40] <Absfresh[BG]> it will be destroing for Bulgarian society
  722. [23:40] <Absfresh[BG]> so, Eden, lets solve it now
  723. [23:40] <Absfresh[BG]> Bulgaria or Turkey
  724. [23:41] <Absfresh[BG]> there is no middle path anymore
  725. [23:41] <TTi> Ok, thank you.
  726. [23:41] <Absfresh[BG]> we tried all the talking and waiting, it is not getting better
  727. [23:41] <naufragiatu> go go flausino http://www.erepublik.com/en/military/battlefield/23382
  728. [23:42] <Absfresh[BG]> we all know he is proone
  729. [23:42] <hoffa13> like I said bg is not saint in that department so they should not speak kike that
  730. [23:42] <hoffa13> it's not only him
  731. [23:42] <hoffa13> http://battle-watcher.com/battle.php?id=23313
  732. [23:42] <hoffa13> ex cp
  733. [23:42] <TTi> please, HQ members...
  734. [23:42] <hoffa13> last month
  735. [23:42] <TTi> Absfresh[BG], done for now?
  736. [23:43] * TTi sets mode: -v Absfresh[BG]
  737. [23:43] <TTi> Ok, short words by Olivaneksa[CRO] and hawkoulis[GR], then we move on
  738. [23:43] * TTi sets mode: +v Olivaneksa[CRO]
  739. [23:43] <TTi> Olivaneksa[CRO]
  740. [23:43] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> thank you
  741. [23:43] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> As Croatia is one of the founders of EDEN
  742. [23:44] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> Our goverment brought up these decisions
  743. [23:44] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> 1. Turkey will give those 2 regions to Bulgaria
  744. [23:44] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> and Bulgaria will not ask for more
  745. [23:44] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> 2. Bulgaria will accept Turkey's full EDEN membership
  746. [23:45] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> If those 2 request aren't completed in the next 24 hours
  747. [23:45] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> Croatia is ready to leave EDEN
  748. [23:45] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> this isn't the way how brotherhood acts
  749. [23:45] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> thank you
  750. [23:45] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> hawkoulis[GR] you may continue
  751. [23:46] <TTi> Thank you
  752. [23:46] * TTi sets mode: -v Olivaneksa[CRO]
  753. [23:46] * TTi sets mode: +v hawkoulis[GR]
  754. [23:46] <TTi> hawkoulis[GR]
  755. [23:46] <hawkoulis[GR]> hmm
  756. [23:46] <hawkoulis[GR]> Absfresh[BG]
  757. [23:46] <hawkoulis[GR]> as i told you you have made a mistake
  758. [23:47] <hawkoulis[GR]> i ll ask again
  759. [23:47] <hawkoulis[GR]> Greece has signed mpp
  760. [23:47] <hawkoulis[GR]> and BG cant?
  761. [23:47] <hawkoulis[GR]> Greece has no proud?
  762. [23:47] <hawkoulis[GR]> If for you we dont have proud then your are my next NE
  763. [23:48] <hawkoulis[GR]> CPs
  764. [23:48] <hawkoulis[GR]> of brotherhood
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  766. [23:49] <hawkoulis[GR]> If you choose any voting about BG and TR
  767. [23:49] * ChanServ sets mode: +h Perfect_Knight
  768. [23:49] <hawkoulis[GR]> both of them shouldnt vote!
  769. [23:49] * Perfect_Knight is now known as Perfect_Knight[HQ]
  770. [23:49] <hawkoulis[GR]> so BG has to be trial again as they requested
  771. [23:50] <hawkoulis[GR]> thats all
  772. [23:50] <TTi> ty
  773. [23:50] * TTi sets mode: -v hawkoulis[GR]
  774. [23:51] <TTi> Chew-Chew-Shoe[IRE], will get short one too, I missed it before. Sorry
  775. [23:51] * TTi sets mode: +v Chew-Chew-Shoe[IRE]
  776. [23:51] <Chew-Chew-Shoe[IRE]> [22:44] Olivaneksa[CRO] 2. Bulgaria will accept Turkey's full EDEN membership
  777. [23:51] <Chew-Chew-Shoe[IRE]> [22:45] Olivaneksa[CRO] If those 2 request aren't completed in the next 24 hours
  778. [23:51] <Chew-Chew-Shoe[IRE]> [22:45] Olivaneksa[CRO] Croatia is ready to leave EDEN
  779. [23:51] <Chew-Chew-Shoe[IRE]> Right, I am not going to hold any long speech on as to how people should run their business, but I believe that it is highly unfair that you demand, from a full EDEN member nation, to accept another country's application of full membership. This is exactly what the HQ has been trying to do in the past, and it has only led to further conflict.
  780. [23:51] <Chew-Chew-Shoe[IRE]> I simply cannot agree to demanding that Bulgaria accept Turkey.
  781. [23:51] <Chew-Chew-Shoe[IRE]> /endrant
  782. [23:51] <TTi> ty
  783. [23:51] * TTi sets mode: -v Chew-Chew-Shoe[IRE]
  784. [23:51] <TTi> Ok. Now
  785. [23:52] <TTi> As you all see, we are far from common goal in this
  786. [23:52] <TTi> And I must say, that the talks in past 7 days has been more polite and respctfull from all parties
  787. [23:52] <TTi> And I really do hope that summit wont turn into a blaming contest
  788. [23:53] <TTi> Now
  789. [23:53] <TTi> As I said in my speach earlier
  790. [23:53] <TTi> "I need the opinnion now from you Country Presidents (or reps), what should we do. Continue with this or what? We have options. Setting a deadline to this, continuing like this, ending this now, changing the negotiation team, what ever. But you need to put in your ideas, cause we cannot just continue by hoping the best."
  791. [23:53] * Perfect_Knight ([email protected]) has joined #EDEN.summit
  792. [23:53] <TTi> I will now open the discussion and I need to hear proposals for US YOU TO MAKE decision
  793. [23:54] <TTi> If I see threats, flaming etc, I will stop the discussion and we can continue in the limbo
  794. [23:54] * Perfect_Knight[HQ] ([email protected]) Quit
  795. [23:54] <TTi> So, Ideas for decisions, pls
  796. [23:54] * TTi sets mode: -m
  797. [23:54] * Perfect_Knight is now known as Perfect_Knight[HQ]
  798. [23:55] <ArikAharon[ISR]> I think we should do a deadline to this fiesta
  799. [23:55] <ArikAharon[ISR]> we can't continue like this
  800. [23:55] <ArikAharon[ISR]> and if some countrys want to leave
  801. [23:55] <ArikAharon[ISR]> so be it
  802. [23:55] <Absfresh[BG]> the deadline is tonight
  803. [23:55] <ArikAharon[ISR]> so make a linger deadline.
  804. [23:55] <ArikAharon[ISR]> longer*
  805. [23:56] <oDdkID[Terra]> >the deadline is tonight
  806. [23:56] <oDdkID[Terra]> or?..
  807. [23:56] <ArikAharon[ISR]> Also , I think Turkey need to pass the regions ASAP
  808. [23:56] <Absfresh[BG]> we leave Eden
  809. [23:56] <oDdkID[Terra]> ok then
  810. [23:56] <Absfresh[BG]> we cannot hold on that anymore
  811. [23:56] <Absfresh[BG]> we are loosing people
  812. [23:56] <Absfresh[BG]> and they are the most important in the game
  813. [23:57] <ArikAharon[ISR]> because you don't fight against Turkey ? it's seems not good
  814. [23:57] <Absfresh[BG]> no
  815. [23:57] <Eashoa> Turkey does not request from EDEN or Bulgaria to leave the alliance
  816. [23:57] <Absfresh[BG]> because we do nothing
  817. [23:57] <hawkoulis[GR]> Absfresh[BG] answer me here and we ll have a good decision
  818. [23:57] <hawkoulis[GR]> Absfresh[BG] answer me here and we ll have a good decision
  819. [23:57] <Absfresh[BG]> I already accepted turkey for trial last meeting
  820. [23:57] <Absfresh[BG]> ok
  821. [23:57] <Absfresh[BG]> I will
  822. [23:57] <Absfresh[BG]> give me your question
  823. [23:57] <hawkoulis[GR]> If my gountry has not proud for you you aren t my ally
  824. [23:58] <hawkoulis[GR]> you are my enemy
  825. [23:58] <hawkoulis[GR]> simple
  826. [23:58] <hawkoulis[GR]> as that
  827. [23:58] <hawkoulis[GR]> and if we accept them
  828. [23:58] <hawkoulis[GR]> you should do it
  829. [23:58] <Absfresh[BG]> so, we have different type of interests, different type of popuplation
  830. [23:58] <naufragiatu> let's not be so hasty in rash afirmations
  831. [23:59] <Absfresh[BG]> and different understandings of the situation
  832. [23:59] <Absfresh[BG]> we have out proud
  833. [23:59] <Absfresh[BG]> and we will never accept turkey as an ally
  834. [23:59] <Absfresh[BG]> you did it
  835. [23:59] <Absfresh[BG]> so we are different
  836. [23:59] <hoffa13> as I remember the refferendum was 58% for not leaving eden
  837. [23:59] <Absfresh[BG]> but, we had promices, we will receive regions and good will
  838. [00:00] <Absfresh[BG]> the promices from Eden
  839. [00:00] * Eashoa ([email protected]) Quit (Excess Flood)
  840. [00:00] <hawkoulis[GR]> Can you understand
  841. [00:00] <Absfresh[BG]> so, they did not happen
  842. [00:00] * Eashoa ([email protected]) has joined #EDEN.summit
  843. [00:01] <hawkoulis[GR]> that you ask a voting
  844. [00:01] <Absfresh[BG]> Eden did not keep its word
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  846. [00:01] <hawkoulis[GR]> that you asked first a voting
  847. [00:01] <hawkoulis[GR]> between BG and TR?
  848. [00:01] <Absfresh[BG]> yes I want now
  849. [00:01] <hawkoulis[GR]> yes are you sure?
  850. [00:01] <Absfresh[BG]> I saw we cannot solve it any other ways
  851. [00:02] <hawkoulis[GR]> Are you sure?
  852. [00:02] <Absfresh[BG]> we are just talking
  853. [00:02] <hawkoulis[GR]> Are you sure?
  854. [00:02] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> i don't agree with that
  855. [00:02] <Absfresh[BG]> yes I am
  856. [00:02] <hawkoulis[GR]> LOL
  857. [00:02] <Atracurium[CN]> can you accept a full tr membership without a mpp with them?
  858. [00:02] <hawkoulis[GR]> You are requesting something that demotes BG
  859. [00:02] <Absfresh[BG]> I have my congress behind those words
  860. [00:02] <hawkoulis[GR]> xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaaxxaxa
  861. [00:02] <hawkoulis[GR]> xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXA
  862. [00:02] <TTi> hawkoulis[GR], please
  863. [00:02] <hawkoulis[GR]> Absfresh[BG] theo olny way to do it
  864. [00:02] <Atracurium[CN]> .... its 6am in the morning...~.~
  865. [00:03] <hawkoulis[GR]> is to demote BG as trial
  866. [00:03] <hawkoulis[GR]> too
  867. [00:03] <Absfresh[BG]> you can demote GR to trial
  868. [00:03] <Absfresh[BG]> if you want
  869. [00:03] <hawkoulis[GR]> no you cant vote against you
  870. [00:03] <Absfresh[BG]> we have our rights
  871. [00:03] <TTi> Ok, so BG proposes a vote to end Tr trial? Other proposals for vote?
  872. [00:03] <hawkoulis[GR]> isnt fair
  873. [00:03] <Absfresh[BG]> as a full member
  874. [00:03] <Absfresh[BG]> but against Turkey I can
  875. [00:04] <hawkoulis[GR]> no
  876. [00:04] <hawkoulis[GR]> you said both
  877. [00:04] <Absfresh[BG]> man, I will make it clear for you
  878. [00:04] <Absfresh[BG]> I want voting against Turkey in Eden anymore
  879. [00:04] <hawkoulis[GR]> TTi we should make the voting for Turkey as BG asked
  880. [00:04] <Absfresh[BG]> if you decide Turkey to stay
  881. [00:04] <hawkoulis[GR]> with the 2 countries
  882. [00:05] <hawkoulis[GR]> and BG out of voting
  883. [00:05] <Absfresh[BG]> We will leave Eden
  884. [00:05] <Chew-Chew-Shoe[IRE]> I don't agree, hawkoulis[GR]
  885. [00:05] <Chew-Chew-Shoe[IRE]> Bulgaria has a right to attend votes by being an EDEN member
  886. [00:05] <Chew-Chew-Shoe[IRE]> Turkey does not
  887. [00:05] <Chew-Chew-Shoe[IRE]> simple as
  888. [00:05] <Absfresh[BG]> we are full member
  889. [00:05] <Absfresh[BG]> Turkey is waht
  890. [00:05] <Absfresh[BG]> what
  891. [00:05] <Absfresh[BG]> ???
  892. [00:05] <hawkoulis[GR]> a full member that requests a vote
  893. [00:05] <hawkoulis[GR]> to stay?
  894. [00:05] <Absfresh[BG]> ofc
  895. [00:05] <Chew-Chew-Shoe[IRE]> Is still a full member.
  896. [00:05] <mihail_cazacu> bg can vote, since they are full member
  897. [00:05] <hawkoulis[GR]> axaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa
  898. [00:05] <Chew-Chew-Shoe[IRE]> mihail_cazacu: +1
  899. [00:05] <hawkoulis[GR]> NO
  900. [00:05] <Absfresh[BG]> no to Expel Turkey
  901. [00:05] <Chew-Chew-Shoe[IRE]> Yes.
  902. [00:06] * TTi sets mode: +m
  903. [00:06] <TTi> Currently I only have one proposal for voting on the table!
  904. [00:06] <TTi> And that is BG proposes a vote to end Tr trial
  905. [00:06] <TTi> If you are FUCKING SERIOUS ABOUT THIS, propose alternatives. DO NOT START A FUCKING ARGUMENT
  906. [00:07] * TTi sets mode: -m
  907. [00:07] <ArikAharon[ISR]> I can't see the reason behind eBG thinking
  908. [00:07] <oDdkID[Terra]> "end" means full mebmership or cancelling request?
  909. [00:07] <TTi> As I understood it, Bg wants to vote on cancelling
  910. [00:08] <Kromov> ігку_
  911. [00:08] <Kromov> sure?
  912. [00:08] <ArikAharon[ISR]> so eTR will get out of EDEN ? :O
  913. [00:08] <hawkoulis[GR]> i ll not vote TTi
  914. [00:08] <hawkoulis[GR]> they asked clearly
  915. [00:08] <hawkoulis[GR]> between
  916. [00:08] <hawkoulis[GR]> TR and BG
  917. [00:08] <hawkoulis[GR]> a voting
  918. [00:08] <hawkoulis[GR]> there are logs
  919. [00:09] <TTi> what would be the vote then? CP which do you choose, Bg or TR?
  920. [00:09] <hawkoulis[GR]> without BG
  921. [00:09] <oDdkID[Terra]> ofc
  922. [00:09] <hawkoulis[GR]> they requested a voting without them
  923. [00:09] <ArikAharon[ISR]> wait ... eBG wants only 2 regions fron turkey ... what turkey thinks about that?
  924. [00:09] <oDdkID[Terra]> Eashoa
  925. [00:09] <Eashoa> yes sir
  926. [00:09] <Absfresh[BG]> so
  927. [00:09] <Eashoa> kloraq is here too
  928. [00:09] <oDdkID[Terra]> in case if BG will promice that they`ll accept TR as full member
  929. [00:09] <oDdkID[Terra]> will Turkey rent them 2 regions?
  930. [00:10] <Eashoa> Turkey's full-membership is not belong to Bulgarians vote,
  931. [00:10] <Absfresh[BG]> we have logs turkish official player treatening bulgarians
  932. [00:10] <TTi> I will let both Eashoa and kloraq to be here, cause kloraq dont know what has been discussed
  933. [00:10] <Absfresh[BG]> in the game
  934. [00:10] <Absfresh[BG]> look at that
  935. [00:10] <oDdkID[Terra]> OH CMON
  936. [00:10] <Absfresh[BG]> and comment it
  937. [00:10] <Eashoa> we can give them whole iran
  938. [00:10] <oDdkID[Terra]> i have logs from BG-ONE negotiations
  939. [00:10] <Eashoa> we give up whole regions
  940. [00:10] <Eashoa> it is not the point
  941. [00:10] <kloraq> Eashoa
  942. [00:10] <Eashoa> for two regions, you cannot vote for full membership[
  943. [00:10] <Absfresh[BG]> Watch your steps cuz you are walking on thin ice
  944. [00:10] <kloraq> I can begin, here
  945. [00:10] <ArikAharon[ISR]> Eashoa so what Tukrey wants? eBG alliance?
  946. [00:11] <Eashoa> kloraq will tak
  947. [00:11] <Absfresh[BG]> these are turkish words
  948. [00:11] <Eashoa> talk
  949. [00:11] <Eashoa> I am silent from now on
  950. [00:11] <kloraq> Absfresh[BG], a Bulgarian, accusing Turks of threatening them is "funny" as the plainest way to describe
  951. [00:11] <kloraq> anyways let's move forward
  952. [00:11] <kloraq> <oDdkID[Terra]> in case if BG will promice that they`ll accept TR as full member
  953. [00:11] <kloraq> <oDdkID[Terra]> will Turkey rent them 2 regions?
  954. [00:11] <KoHaH> I am sorry that i have to interferee here
  955. [00:11] <kloraq> I'll answer this
  956. [00:12] <KoHaH> but kloraq - I personaly got this threats in IRC from turkish officials like 2-3 months ago
  957. [00:12] <kloraq> oDdkID[Terra], we won't rent them, we will give them for free, for the sake of the Brotherhood
  958. [00:12] <Absfresh[BG]> rent, you want to rent us something, we can take now if we decide
  959. [00:12] <kloraq> just like we released Israeli regions and Romanian regions
  960. [00:12] <KoHaH> beeing both EDEN aMC and BG vMoD at that time
  961. [00:12] * TTi sets mode: +v kloraq
  962. [00:13] * TTi sets mode: +m
  963. [00:13] <TTi> please let him speak
  964. [00:13] <kloraq> KoHaH, I've been threatened for a whole month by tablov, not only threatened, even my country was attacked several times
  965. [00:13] <kloraq> with official government orders
  966. [00:13] <kloraq> what are you talking about ?
  967. [00:13] <TTi> kloraq, you mean that you will give those 2 regions?
  968. [00:13] <kloraq> TTi, if we become a full member, I'll ask the congress and the military units about this 2 regions
  969. [00:14] <kloraq> and I'm sure they won't be any opposition to that
  970. [00:14] <KoHaH> kloraq with all my respect - i am talking for months ago - long before Tablov even candidate for CP ...
  971. [00:14] <kloraq> but right now, that is not possible
  972. [00:14] <TTi> k
  973. [00:14] <kloraq> even this Friday, those regions were attacked by Bulgarians
  974. [00:14] * TTi sets mode: -m
  975. [00:14] <kloraq> I gave you their CP's article too
  976. [00:14] <ArikAharon[ISR]> Please, lets just get this over with
  977. [00:14] <ArikAharon[ISR]> EDEN can't carry on in this kind of situation
  978. [00:14] <ArikAharon[ISR]> and I think all CPs are agree
  979. [00:15] <oDdkID[Terra]> We heard the position of Turkey
  980. [00:15] <oDdkID[Terra]> They are ready to give 2 more bonuces for BG
  981. [00:15] <Chew-Chew-Shoe[IRE]> In exchange for full membership, I may add.
  982. [00:15] <ArikAharon[ISR]> I think this is a fair deal.
  983. [00:16] <oDdkID[Terra]> Why? This step makes sense only in case if TR and BG are alies
  984. [00:16] * TTi sets mode: +m
  985. [00:16] <TTi> Ok, ppl. Now we are going back on the depate on the proposals
  986. [00:16] <TTi> Tr has beeing saying for long time already
  987. [00:16] <TTi> that _AS_ full member they will give those two regions
  988. [00:17] <TTi> Bg has been saying the same time that THEY WILL NOT VOTE TR as full member.
  989. [00:17] <TTi> So we need to find other alternatives
  990. [00:17] <TTi> if there are any
  991. [00:17] <TTi> I still have only 1 proposal as vote here today
  992. [00:17] * TTi sets mode: -m
  993. [00:17] <kloraq> what is that proposal, If I may learn
  994. [00:17] <kloraq> sorry, just got here
  995. [00:18] <Chew-Chew-Shoe[IRE]> To kick Turkey out
  996. [00:18] <oDdkID[Terra]> cancel ur membership
  997. [00:18] <kloraq> lol
  998. [00:18] <ArikAharon[ISR]> ^^
  999. [00:18] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> i still don't see why bulgaria has problems with that
  1000. [00:18] <ArikAharon[ISR]> kloraq , you came right in time
  1001. [00:18] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> turkey clearly said that they will give regions
  1002. [00:18] <ArikAharon[ISR]> ^^ +1
  1003. [00:18] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> it maybe seems like the price
  1004. [00:18] <oDdkID[Terra]> it is
  1005. [00:18] * Perfect_Knight[HQ] ([email protected]) has left #EDEN.summit
  1006. [00:18] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> but it also shows their good will
  1007. [00:18] <ArikAharon[ISR]> It's a fair deal
  1008. [00:19] <oDdkID[Terra]> but, ffs, Turkey is doing everything to become a full member
  1009. [00:19] <TTi> Olivaneksa[CRO], No they did not. They said FULL membership and then the regions ;)
  1010. [00:19] <oDdkID[Terra]> they HAS NOT pay for it by regions
  1011. [00:19] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> turks work really hard on relations between countries
  1012. [00:19] <oDdkID[Terra]> Because its sensless - give regions to not allied country
  1013. [00:19] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> many of them tanked for eden in last months
  1014. [00:19] * Perfect_Knight ([email protected]) has joined #EDEN.summit
  1015. [00:19] <oDdkID[Terra]> many of bulgarians is tanking against EDEN
  1016. [00:20] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> and they are showing that they are ready to enter full eden membership
  1017. [00:20] <oDdkID[Terra]> many of Turks is tanking for it
  1018. [00:20] <ArikAharon[ISR]> I agree with CRO , eTurkey proofed themself as a good allys . for me , it's seems like eBG just want a war..
  1019. [00:20] <Absfresh[BG]> its funny how you forgot
  1020. [00:20] * Perfect_Knight is now known as Perfect_Knight[HQ]
  1021. [00:20] <Absfresh[BG]> who carried eden on its back for a months
  1022. [00:20] <oDdkID[Terra]> emh, Croatia?
  1023. [00:20] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> i really still don't know the main reason why bulgaria doesn't want to accept turkey
  1024. [00:20] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> or lets say 3 main reasons
  1025. [00:20] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> i understand the history was though
  1026. [00:20] <Absfresh[BG]> the reason is only one
  1027. [00:21] * Joep_O[NL] ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: bai bai xoxoxoxo)
  1028. [00:21] <Absfresh[BG]> the population do not want Turkey
  1029. [00:21] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> and why is that so?
  1030. [00:21] <ArikAharon[ISR]> you done well
  1031. [00:21] <oDdkID[Terra]> the reason is rl butthurt because of historical fails
  1032. [00:21] <Absfresh[BG]> if I accept them , we will have civil war
  1033. [00:21] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> maybe all greeks didn't wanted turkey as an ally
  1034. [00:21] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> but when they saw that turkey works really hard to improve relations
  1035. [00:22] <Absfresh[BG]> I can talk about Bulgarians, not about Greeks
  1036. [00:22] <oDdkID[Terra]> because u r playing this game
  1037. [00:22] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> they changed their mind
  1038. [00:22] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> Absfresh[BG]: how can you know ppl won't change mind
  1039. [00:22] <oDdkID[Terra]> its just a game
  1040. [00:22] <oDdkID[Terra]> make bg to realize it
  1041. [00:22] <Absfresh[BG]> I am sure, I read chats everyday
  1042. [00:22] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> they won't change it ofc if you call them to fight against turkey, that they are traitors
  1043. [00:22] <Absfresh[BG]> the public oppinion is really clear against Turkey
  1044. [00:22] <LitoII> [00:22] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> Absfresh[BG]: how can you know ppl won't change mind
  1045. [00:22] <LitoII> they did not
  1046. [00:23] <LitoII> over the past 3-4 months
  1047. [00:23] <LitoII> ... for example
  1048. [00:23] * hoffa13 sets mode: +I MUFC92!*@*
  1049. [00:23] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> and why is that so?
  1050. [00:23] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> official orders come to fight against turkey
  1051. [00:23] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> just saying...
  1052. [00:23] <Absfresh[BG]> we need fun and enemy
  1053. [00:23] <KoHaH> Olivaneksa[CRO] i am sorry that i have to interferee once again ... and atm i am talking as former BG official - the way to improve relations is not with unoficial threats on PM on highest lvl
  1054. [00:23] <Absfresh[BG]> no official orders
  1055. [00:23] <Absfresh[BG]> I ordered everyday fight for eden
  1056. [00:24] <Perfect_Knight[HQ]> population changes. but loyalty and alliances carry on.
  1057. [00:24] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> but then request for 2 regions isn't normal
  1058. [00:24] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> if you wanted that turkey stays your enemy
  1059. [00:24] <LitoII> it was not request, at least not in the beginning
  1060. [00:24] <Perfect_Knight[HQ]> many countries have switched loyalties because of thier population. what eden cherish is the everlasting brotherhood.
  1061. [00:24] <LitoII> I told Eashoa back months ago this
  1062. [00:24] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> well it became it seems so
  1063. [00:24] <LitoII> if they want to change BG's pop attitude towards TR
  1064. [00:25] <Eashoa> yes
  1065. [00:25] <Eashoa> ?
  1066. [00:25] <LitoII> those regions are their tool
  1067. [00:25] <Absfresh[BG]> it is a promise, not a request
  1068. [00:25] <Eashoa> did you keep your promise?
  1069. [00:25] <Absfresh[BG]> my?
  1070. [00:25] <Eashoa> you and behujhak were those who agreed on it
  1071. [00:25] <Eashoa> mop = two regions
  1072. [00:25] <LitoII> yes
  1073. [00:25] <Absfresh[BG]> never
  1074. [00:25] <Eashoa> did you see any hesitation, any opposition form turkish side?
  1075. [00:25] <LitoII> after we get the regions
  1076. [00:25] <LitoII> Eashoa
  1077. [00:25] <LitoII> and zdlemmy was the one to say
  1078. [00:25] <LitoII> we'd better not do it
  1079. [00:25] <kloraq> TTi, could you please put +m and let me explain a few things, talking about past won't solve anything
  1080. [00:25] <Eashoa> the deal was "first mop, then regions " and two regions were eden guaraanted
  1081. [00:25] <LitoII> so stop reminding ppl about this, pls
  1082. [00:26] * TTi sets mode: +m
  1083. [00:26] <TTi> Ok, ppl.
  1084. [00:26] <kloraq> so
  1085. [00:26] * MUFC92 ([email protected]) has joined #EDEN.summit
  1086. [00:26] <kloraq> we have a Bulgarian CP that clearly states Bulgarian people's mind's cannot be changed
  1087. [00:27] <kloraq> we have also witnessed how he said "they want to attack Turkey, and all that is stopping them is the EDEN MPPs that Turkey have"
  1088. [00:27] <kloraq> would you give regions to a country that feels this way ?
  1089. [00:27] <kloraq> I led my armies to Bulgarian wars for many times
  1090. [00:27] <kloraq> just to show them that we are friends now
  1091. [00:27] <kloraq> and the response I got from them was "we don't need your damage, gtfo"
  1092. [00:28] <kloraq> now they ask me 2 regions, would you give them, after being officially attacked by them on many occasions ?
  1093. [00:28] <kloraq> and the latest one was done 36 hours ago
  1094. [00:29] <kloraq> I want Turkey to become a full-member of EDEN
  1095. [00:29] <kloraq> after that, if EDEN requests me to help Bulgaria's economical development
  1096. [00:29] <kloraq> I'll be happy to oblige
  1097. [00:29] <kloraq> but not right now, that does not make sense
  1098. [00:29] <TTi> Ok, thank you.
  1099. [00:29] * TTi sets mode: -v kloraq
  1100. [00:30] <TTi> We have now been talking and debating for hours
  1101. [00:30] <TTi> And we have still two very far ends in the discussion
  1102. [00:31] <TTi> And as I do not believe that any of this arguing will make any difference.
  1103. [00:31] <TTi> As Bg stated, they will leave if Turkey stays
  1104. [00:32] <TTi> I think we have a clear BG or TR vote on our hands.
  1105. [00:32] * TTi sets mode: -m
  1106. [00:32] <TTi> So any other ideas?
  1107. [00:32] * MUFC92 is now known as MUFC92[IRE]
  1108. [00:32] <TTi> Or just to start the vote on terminating Turkeys trial?
  1109. [00:32] <oDdkID[Terra]> Its sensless
  1110. [00:33] <oDdkID[Terra]> in my mind
  1111. [00:33] <oDdkID[Terra]> BG force us to choose between BG and TR
  1112. [00:33] <TTi> Yes they do
  1113. [00:33] <oDdkID[Terra]> and i fully agreed with kloraq speech
  1114. [00:33] <TTi> But I do not see any other way to move on
  1115. [00:33] <Nino54[AL]> Absfresh[BG]: so there is nothing u can do,to be at least allies with eTurkey ?
  1116. [00:33] * Perfect_Knight[HQ] is now known as Perfect_Knight
  1117. [00:33] <oDdkID[Terra]> its almost 3 am
  1118. [00:34] <oDdkID[Terra]> fuck this game
  1119. [00:34] <ArikAharon[ISR]> lol
  1120. [00:34] <Eashoa> lol
  1121. [00:34] <Atracurium[CN]> its 6.30am...
  1122. [00:34] <Atracurium[CN]> and i had not sleep yet..
  1123. [00:34] <TTi> We will start a vote on this in 5 minutes if not better ideas
  1124. [00:34] <Absfresh[BG]> nothing now
  1125. [00:34] <ArikAharon[ISR]> it's 0.30 in Israel
  1126. [00:34] <Absfresh[BG]> lets start the vote
  1127. [00:34] <ArikAharon[ISR]> I don't want to vote :(
  1128. [00:34] * oDdkID[Terra] is now known as oDdkID[BY]
  1129. [00:34] <ArikAharon[ISR]> it's like choosing between mother or father
  1130. [00:34] <ArikAharon[ISR]> comon
  1131. [00:35] <TTi> Í dont eather, but we cannot stay in the limbo forever
  1132. [00:35] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> i refuse to vote
  1133. [00:35] <ArikAharon[ISR]> eBG why do you make us vote?
  1134. [00:35] <TTi> and I dont see any real actions by anyone
  1135. [00:35] <Atracurium[CN]> Nor do I. And I think countries should be given a decent 24 hours to think also.
  1136. [00:35] <Absfresh[BG]> I could avoid voting
  1137. [00:35] <ArikAharon[ISR]> how ?>
  1138. [00:35] <TTi> Absfresh[BG], Is it ok for you to give 24 hours?
  1139. [00:35] <TTi> or avoid it totally?
  1140. [00:35] <Absfresh[BG]> no, pls
  1141. [00:35] <MUFC92[IRE]> nothing will change in 24h
  1142. [00:35] <Absfresh[BG]> lets finish this
  1143. [00:36] <ArikAharon[ISR]> this is a fatal issue ...but it can't be solve in vote..
  1144. [00:36] <Absfresh[BG]> I work very important job, cannot spend more time in talking
  1145. [00:36] * Chew-Chew-Shoe[IRE] was kicked by ChanServ (Requested)
  1146. [00:36] * Eashoa was kicked by ChanServ (Requested)
  1147. [00:36] <ArikAharon[ISR]> ? :O
  1148. [00:37] <oDdkID[BY]> voting is comming
  1149. [00:37] <MUFC92[IRE]> Before voting
  1150. [00:37] <ArikAharon[ISR]> come onnn we all don't want to vote
  1151. [00:37] <MUFC92[IRE]> I want to say few words
  1152. [00:37] <TTi> Ok. I propose a vote to terminate Turkey trial. Who seconds this?
  1153. [00:37] <MUFC92[IRE]> if that is possible
  1154. [00:37] <Absfresh[BG]> ok, I tried everything
  1155. [00:37] <Absfresh[BG]> talking , negotiationg
  1156. [00:37] <Absfresh[BG]> but we did not get enywhere
  1157. [00:37] <oDdkID[BY]> forcing, lying
  1158. [00:38] <Absfresh[BG]> Eden lied us
  1159. [00:38] <oDdkID[BY]> lold
  1160. [00:38] <Absfresh[BG]> Lets end this now
  1161. [00:38] <TTi> So does anyone want that vote or not?
  1162. [00:38] <ArikAharon[ISR]> OMG.
  1163. [00:38] <Absfresh[BG]> I will place NE Turkey
  1164. [00:38] <TTi> Ok. I propose a vote to terminate Turkey trial. Who seconds this?
  1165. [00:38] <ArikAharon[ISR]> the end is near
  1166. [00:38] <ArikAharon[ISR]> :O
  1167. [00:38] <Absfresh[BG]> it last 24 hours
  1168. [00:38] <ArikAharon[ISR]> 2012...
  1169. [00:38] <Atracurium[CN]> I will just void my vote if possible...
  1170. [00:38] <MUFC92[IRE]> I want say something
  1171. [00:38] <MUFC92[IRE]> before voting
  1172. [00:38] <Absfresh[BG]> If you decide BG we will reject it
  1173. [00:39] <Absfresh[BG]> if you decide TR, we will accept it
  1174. [00:39] <ArikAharon[ISR]> :S
  1175. [00:39] <Absfresh[BG]> we have 24 hours
  1176. [00:39] <Absfresh[BG]> it is fair
  1177. [00:39] <TTi> MUFC92[IRE], please say
  1178. [00:39] <MUFC92[IRE]> Ireland feels embaressed
  1179. [00:39] <MUFC92[IRE]> because
  1180. [00:39] <MUFC92[IRE]> we are in position to force
  1181. [00:39] <MUFC92[IRE]> long time ally and friend
  1182. [00:39] <MUFC92[IRE]> from EDEN
  1183. [00:40] <MUFC92[IRE]> only because they don't want accept Turkey (as new country) as member
  1184. [00:40] <MUFC92[IRE]> it's their right
  1185. [00:40] <MUFC92[IRE]> we don't have nothing against turkey
  1186. [00:40] <MUFC92[IRE]> we really don't
  1187. [00:40] <MUFC92[IRE]> but if one of long time allies and members
  1188. [00:40] <MUFC92[IRE]> don't want accept them
  1189. [00:40] <MUFC92[IRE]> I don't see why we even vote for this
  1190. [00:40] <MUFC92[IRE]> but it's your choice
  1191. [00:41] <MUFC92[IRE]> just stating our feelings
  1192. [00:41] <TTi> ok, thanks
  1193. [00:41] * TTi sets mode: +m
  1194. [00:41] <TTi> I understand that many of you really dont want to even vote about this
  1195. [00:41] <TTi> But right now we have quite clear statement from Bg
  1196. [00:41] <TTi> And I do not feel that we can hide the thing anymore
  1197. [00:42] <TTi> As I proposed, we can start the vote on terminating Tr trial
  1198. [00:42] <TTi> and if you vote no to that
  1199. [00:42] <TTi> Bg will leave EDEN
  1200. [00:42] <TTi> simple as that
  1201. [00:42] <TTi> It hurts.
  1202. [00:43] <TTi> but also this doing nothing and just hoping hurts
  1203. [00:43] <TTi> I do not see options
  1204. [00:43] <TTi> But CP. YOU NEED TO DESIDE. And that time is NOQ
  1205. [00:43] <TTi> W*
  1206. [00:43] * TTi sets mode: -m
  1207. [00:43] <Absfresh[BG]> I placed the NE Turkey
  1208. [00:43] <Absfresh[BG]> we have 24 hours
  1209. [00:43] <Absfresh[BG]> Bulgaria will not vote this
  1210. [00:44] <oDdkID[BY]> ok so
  1211. [00:44] <oDdkID[BY]> Belarus votes NO. Turkey should stay in EDEN.
  1212. [00:44] <TTi> oDdkID[BY], prpose the vote please
  1213. [00:44] <oDdkID[BY]> emh
  1214. [00:44] <Absfresh[BG]> we vote for expeling turkey
  1215. [00:44] <MUFC92[IRE]> when voting is starting ?
  1216. [00:45] <TTi> "propose a vote to terminate Turkey trial"
  1217. [00:45] * TTi sets mode: +m
  1218. [00:45] <TTi> Ok. I start the vote on terminating Turkeys trial for EDEN
  1219. [00:45] <TTi> Vote yes/no <country here>
  1220. [00:45] * TTi sets mode: -m
  1221. [00:46] <TTi> Olivaneksa[CRO] Perfect_Knight
  1222. [00:46] <TTi> TTi diuras hoffa13 mihail_cazacu kelemeta[HQ] KoHaH LitoII naufragiatu Absfresh[BG] ArikAharon[ISR] Atracurium[CN] Endymionis[NO] GeluRomanu[RO] Glorietta[IT] hawkoulis[GR] Justino[PT] kloraq Koze[Fin] Kromov LucifelL MUFC92[IRE] Nino54[AL] oDdkID[BY]
  1223. [00:46] <hawkoulis[GR]> As I proposed, we can start the vote on terminating Tr trial
  1224. [00:46] <TTi> Ok. I start the vote on terminating Turkeys trial for EDEN
  1225. [00:46] <hawkoulis[GR]> [12:42:29~am] <&TTi> and if you vote no to that
  1226. [00:46] <hawkoulis[GR]> [12:42:33~am] <&TTi> Bg will leave EDEN
  1227. [00:46] <TTi> Vote yes/no <country here>
  1228. [00:46] <hawkoulis[GR]> there no such a vote is illegal
  1229. [00:46] <Atracurium[CN]> Shouldnt there be an abstain?
  1230. [00:46] <MUFC92[IRE]> YES - IRELAND
  1231. [00:46] <Atracurium[CN]> or was it not writen in the charter
  1232. [00:46] <TTi> then all will just abstain and we wont get anywhere
  1233. [00:46] <hawkoulis[GR]> TTi
  1234. [00:46] <TTi> but that is ok for me
  1235. [00:46] <MUFC92[IRE]> come one
  1236. [00:46] <MUFC92[IRE]> on*
  1237. [00:46] <Endymionis[NO]> yes norway
  1238. [00:46] <MUFC92[IRE]> just vote
  1239. [00:46] <MUFC92[IRE]> ;_;
  1240. [00:47] <hawkoulis[GR]> as i told you there are 2 parts
  1241. [00:47] <ArikAharon[ISR]> hard chise.
  1242. [00:47] <oDdkID[BY]> fuck this shit
  1243. [00:47] <oDdkID[BY]> NO Belarus
  1244. [00:47] <ArikAharon[ISR]> choise
  1245. [00:47] <oDdkID[BY]> im going to sleep
  1246. [00:47] <hawkoulis[GR]> and if BG remians in theese 2 parts
  1247. [00:47] <hawkoulis[GR]> there is vote between them
  1248. [00:47] <hawkoulis[GR]> so they cant vote
  1249. [00:47] <hawkoulis[GR]> they shouldnt be here
  1250. [00:47] <oDdkID[BY]> guys
  1251. [00:47] <hawkoulis[GR]> and BG for now should be trial as well
  1252. [00:48] <MUFC92[IRE]> BG is full member
  1253. [00:48] <MUFC92[IRE]> and they should stay
  1254. [00:48] <hawkoulis[GR]> MUFC92[IRE]
  1255. [00:48] <oDdkID[BY]> Bulgaria is obviously forcing u to decide
  1256. [00:48] <MUFC92[IRE]> voting is about turkey
  1257. [00:48] <oDdkID[BY]> stop be pussy
  1258. [00:48] <MUFC92[IRE]> not bulgaria
  1259. [00:48] <oDdkID[BY]> just vote
  1260. [00:48] <hawkoulis[GR]> they are asking from me to vote
  1261. [00:48] <hawkoulis[GR]> about them
  1262. [00:48] <hawkoulis[GR]> this isnt full membership
  1263. [00:48] <Absfresh[BG]> Bulgaria vote - yes
  1264. [00:48] <MUFC92[IRE]> TTi: please mute channel
  1265. [00:48] <kloraq> I am ashamed to see this, this is blackmail at its best. And the only outcome of this is dividing EDEN into two groups.
  1266. [00:48] <MUFC92[IRE]> and give us only opportunity to vote
  1267. [00:48] <naufragiatu> this vote shouldn't be allowed imo, it's basically "choose between bg and tr" and personally I want them both on our side
  1268. [00:48] <MUFC92[IRE]> -.-
  1269. [00:49] <hawkoulis[GR]> naufragiatu +1
  1270. [00:49] * TTi sets mode: +m
  1271. [00:49] <TTi> are you all serious?
  1272. [00:49] * TTi sets mode: -m
  1273. [00:49] <MUFC92[IRE]> IRELAND VOTE YES!
  1274. [00:49] <oDdkID[BY]> Belarus vote NO
  1275. [00:49] <oDdkID[BY]> come on
  1276. [00:50] <hawkoulis[GR]> No
  1277. [00:50] * naufragiatu wonders what happens if it's a tie
  1278. [00:50] <hawkoulis[GR]> ther is no voting
  1279. [00:50] <hawkoulis[GR]> i want a vote about the voting subject
  1280. [00:50] <MUFC92[IRE]> voting subject is more then clear
  1281. [00:50] <hawkoulis[GR]> i am a full member too
  1282. [00:50] <hawkoulis[GR]> no
  1283. [00:50] <MUFC92[IRE]> terminate turkey trial member
  1284. [00:50] <MUFC92[IRE]> yes or no
  1285. [00:50] <MUFC92[IRE]> it's simple
  1286. [00:50] <hawkoulis[GR]> NO
  1287. [00:50] <hawkoulis[GR]> NO
  1288. [00:51] <ArikAharon[ISR]> I agree with GR.
  1289. [00:51] <hawkoulis[GR]> Absfresh[BG] told that he ll leave edne
  1290. [00:51] <hawkoulis[GR]> i want a vote about the voting subject
  1291. [00:51] * TTi sets mode: +m
  1292. [00:51] <TTi> Bg started NE vote against Tr
  1293. [00:51] <TTi> And you are still cying about vote or not
  1294. [00:52] <TTi> WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU PROPOSE?
  1295. [00:52] * TTi sets mode: -m
  1296. [00:52] <Endymionis[NO]> we might as well just vote bg vs tr - that is the issue anyway
  1297. [00:52] <ArikAharon[ISR]> Kick them both lol
  1298. [00:52] <ArikAharon[ISR]> just kiding
  1299. [00:52] <ArikAharon[ISR]> lol
  1300. [00:52] <Endymionis[NO]> ArikAharon[ISR] +1 :P tired of this
  1301. [00:52] <MUFC92[IRE]> you can't run away from problem
  1302. [00:52] <MUFC92[IRE]> and this problems
  1303. [00:52] <MUFC92[IRE]> took so many time
  1304. [00:52] <MUFC92[IRE]> and nerves
  1305. [00:52] <MUFC92[IRE]> from both sides
  1306. [00:52] <MUFC92[IRE]> it's time to vote
  1307. [00:52] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> but it's stupid voting
  1308. [00:52] <ArikAharon[ISR]> this is a blackmail
  1309. [00:53] <ArikAharon[ISR]> I agree with Turkey on this
  1310. [00:53] <ArikAharon[ISR]> you force us to vote
  1311. [00:53] <ArikAharon[ISR]> and we don't want to do this
  1312. [00:53] <ArikAharon[ISR]> we can't choose between you guys
  1313. [00:53] <oDdkID[BY]> Bulgaria do it
  1314. [00:53] <MUFC92[IRE]> I can choose
  1315. [00:53] <oDdkID[BY]> Their community failed the referendum
  1316. [00:53] <MUFC92[IRE]> long time ally or new friend
  1317. [00:53] <MUFC92[IRE]> it's hard
  1318. [00:53] <oDdkID[BY]> and now government is trying to make eden kick them
  1319. [00:53] <MUFC92[IRE]> but we can vote
  1320. [00:53] <Atracurium[CN]> You can choose but it does not mean its a fair vote!
  1321. [00:53] <MUFC92[IRE]> that is also true
  1322. [00:54] <MUFC92[IRE]> noone isn't happy because of this voting
  1323. [00:54] <hawkoulis[GR]> it is a blackmail from Absfresh[BG]
  1324. [00:54] * Glorietta[IT] is now known as Glorietta
  1325. [00:54] <Absfresh[BG]> ha ha
  1326. [00:54] <ArikAharon[ISR]> it is a blackmail from Absfresh[BG] +1
  1327. [00:54] <MUFC92[IRE]> it's not
  1328. [00:54] * Glorietta is now known as Glorietta[IT]
  1329. [00:54] <hawkoulis[GR]> and i ll not allow to someone that blackmails us
  1330. [00:54] <hawkoulis[GR]> to vote
  1331. [00:54] <MUFC92[IRE]> they just don't want accept turkey
  1332. [00:54] <ArikAharon[ISR]> You are forcing us to vote
  1333. [00:54] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> i won't vote till i don't get answer why bulgaria doesn't want turkey in eden if they would like to give them regions
  1334. [00:54] <Atracurium[CN]> If its all of a vote you want, China votes abstain.
  1335. [00:54] <Absfresh[BG]> yiu gave us promices , Eden did not keep on them
  1336. [00:55] <oDdkID[BY]> u blame whole EDEN now?
  1337. [00:55] <ArikAharon[ISR]> lol
  1338. [00:55] <Absfresh[BG]> the population vote yes for eden on the referendum
  1339. [00:55] <Absfresh[BG]> no
  1340. [00:55] <Absfresh[BG]> not the whole
  1341. [00:55] <Absfresh[BG]> only the mediators
  1342. [00:55] <oDdkID[BY]> >the population vote yes for eden on the referendum
  1343. [00:55] <Nino54[AL]> most of it
  1344. [00:55] <oDdkID[BY]> so u r trying to leave it in another ways?
  1345. [00:55] <oDdkID[BY]> am i right?
  1346. [00:55] <Absfresh[BG]> because there was info , that the problem with turkey is solved
  1347. [00:56] <Absfresh[BG]> and we will finish this Iran regions problem
  1348. [00:56] <Absfresh[BG]> it is not obviously
  1349. [00:56] <ArikAharon[ISR]> Usually , I would go and vote for eBG , but this case is just a blackmail by eBG
  1350. [00:56] <Absfresh[BG]> we have congress
  1351. [00:56] <Absfresh[BG]> they will decide
  1352. [00:56] <Absfresh[BG]> tomorrow evening
  1353. [00:57] <Absfresh[BG]> bit we cannot do this anymore
  1354. [00:57] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> they will do what you say them
  1355. [00:57] <Absfresh[BG]> talking everyday
  1356. [00:57] <Endymionis[NO]> I propose a 48 hour with new mediators, then a vote BG vs TR
  1357. [00:57] <GeluRomanu[RO]> this isn't a vote we should take
  1358. [00:57] <Kromov> I agree
  1359. [00:57] <GeluRomanu[RO]> BG will decide
  1360. [00:57] <hawkoulis[GR]> Absfresh[BG] if you were proud you could leave now without voting
  1361. [00:57] <GeluRomanu[RO]> in 24h
  1362. [00:57] <hawkoulis[GR]> you are blackmailing us
  1363. [00:57] <MUFC92[IRE]> come on people...
  1364. [00:57] <MUFC92[IRE]> it's more then simple
  1365. [00:57] <Absfresh[BG]> hawkoulis[GR] we have friends here
  1366. [00:58] <MUFC92[IRE]> Bulgaria want us to choose between Turkey and them
  1367. [00:58] <Absfresh[BG]> thats why we stay
  1368. [00:58] <MUFC92[IRE]> and this is only way
  1369. [00:58] <MUFC92[IRE]> we finally finish this
  1370. [00:58] <MUFC92[IRE]> I think everyone are tired
  1371. [00:58] <MUFC92[IRE]> of Bul-Tr issue
  1372. [00:58] <hawkoulis[GR]> Absfresh[BG] you are blackmail your brothers mate
  1373. [00:58] <MUFC92[IRE]> it's not good feeling to vote yes or no
  1374. [00:58] <naufragiatu> i agree everyone is tired
  1375. [00:58] <MUFC92[IRE]> because both of them presented themselves
  1376. [00:58] <hawkoulis[GR]> do you forgot the brotherhood?
  1377. [00:58] <MUFC92[IRE]> as good allies
  1378. [00:58] <naufragiatu> however this is ludacrious
  1379. [00:58] <hawkoulis[GR]> you dont respect your brothers?
  1380. [00:59] <hawkoulis[GR]> come on dude
  1381. [00:59] <Endymionis[NO]> Absfresh[BG] are you willing to vote no on the NE if we decide to day to hold a vote BG vs TY?
  1382. [00:59] <Absfresh[BG]> 1 day
  1383. [00:59] * oDdkID ([email protected]) has joined #EDEN.summit
  1384. [00:59] <Absfresh[BG]> ?
  1385. [00:59] <oDdkID> inet is lagging
  1386. [00:59] * oDdkID[BY] ([email protected]) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
  1387. [00:59] <Endymionis[NO]> i mean, remove the NE vote from the equation
  1388. [00:59] <oDdkID> so
  1389. [00:59] <Absfresh[BG]> I cannot control the congress anymore
  1390. [01:00] <oDdkID> TTi
  1391. [01:00] <Absfresh[BG]> I asked them for 10 days
  1392. [01:00] <Absfresh[BG]> they gave them to me
  1393. [01:00] <TTi> yes oDdkID
  1394. [01:00] <oDdkID> Belarus votes for Turkey.
  1395. [01:00] <Absfresh[BG]> we cannot stay in the nothing anymore
  1396. [01:00] <ArikAharon[ISR]> THIS IS BULLSHIT
  1397. [01:00] <oDdkID> in any form
  1398. [01:00] <Absfresh[BG]> we must finish this
  1399. [01:00] <oDdkID> propose MPP to Poland
  1400. [01:00] <LitoII> Guys, there are 23 hours from now
  1401. [01:00] <hawkoulis[GR]> Absfresh[BG] yous hould finish it
  1402. [01:01] <hawkoulis[GR]> you cant control anything anymore
  1403. [01:01] <hawkoulis[GR]> axxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa
  1404. [01:01] <hawkoulis[GR]> Nice CP
  1405. [01:01] <Endymionis[NO]> almost 4 hours, and still no agreement, I am going to bed in protest over sillyness
  1406. [01:01] <oDdkID> im going sleep
  1407. [01:01] <oDdkID> nn
  1408. [01:01] <Absfresh[BG]> me too
  1409. [01:01] * oDdkID ([email protected]) Quit
  1410. [01:02] <Kromov> and me
  1411. [01:02] <Absfresh[BG]> I vote for expelling Turkey from Eden
  1412. [01:02] <ArikAharon[ISR]> lol
  1413. [01:02] <Absfresh[BG]> you can talk tomorrow
  1414. [01:02] <TTi> So are we going to vote or keep on hoping for the best?
  1415. [01:02] <hawkoulis[GR]> Absfresh[BG]
  1416. [01:02] <hawkoulis[GR]> TTi
  1417. [01:02] <hawkoulis[GR]> teh subject
  1418. [01:02] <hawkoulis[GR]> plz
  1419. [01:02] <hawkoulis[GR]> Bg or tr
  1420. [01:02] <Atracurium[CN]> Can we settle for voting via pm to you TTi... its getting late 7am...
  1421. [01:02] <hawkoulis[GR]> and both of them out if you want today
  1422. [01:02] <hawkoulis[GR]> or BG as a trial member
  1423. [01:03] <TTi> Perfect_Knight
  1424. [01:03] <TTi> TTi diuras hoffa13 mihail_cazacu kelemeta[HQ] KoHaH LitoII naufragiatu Absfresh[BG] ArikAharon[ISR] Atracurium[CN] Endymionis[NO] GeluRomanu[RO] Glorietta[IT] hawkoulis[GR] Justino[PT] kloraq Koze[Fin] Kromov LucifelL MUFC92[IRE] Nino54[AL] Olivaneksa[CRO]
  1425. [01:03] <TTi> Vote for Bg or Tr here now or IGM to be.
  1426. [01:03] <TTi> thats it
  1427. [01:03] <TTi> igm to me*
  1428. [01:03] <ArikAharon[ISR]> OMG
  1429. [01:03] <Kromov> very bad question
  1430. [01:03] <ArikAharon[ISR]> i don't want to vote
  1431. [01:03] <TTi> ArikAharon[ISR], time went past omg
  1432. [01:03] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> this isn't the way how to solve this problem
  1433. [01:04] <MUFC92[IRE]> So now we vote Turkey or Bulgaria ?
  1434. [01:04] <Atracurium[CN]> you dun have a choice MUFC92[IRE]
  1435. [01:04] <Atracurium[CN]> nor do us.
  1436. [01:04] <MUFC92[IRE]> lol
  1437. [01:04] <Atracurium[CN]> =D
  1438. [01:04] <TTi> Olivaneksa[CRO], Please TELL ME WHAT IS THE WAY
  1439. [01:04] <MUFC92[IRE]> there is no other way tbh
  1440. [01:04] <TTi> You said that Cro will leave eden too?
  1441. [01:04] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> unfair voting like this isn't
  1442. [01:04] <ArikAharon[ISR]> lol
  1443. [01:04] <TTi> So should we just drop off one by one
  1444. [01:05] <Absfresh[BG]> http://prikachi.com/images/215/4538215l.jpg
  1445. [01:05] <ArikAharon[ISR]> 3 countrys trathen that they will leave today
  1446. [01:05] <ArikAharon[ISR]> lol
  1447. [01:05] <Absfresh[BG]> but we accepted a new one :)
  1448. [01:05] <MUFC92[IRE]> :O
  1449. [01:05] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> Absfresh[BG]: and what with that?
  1450. [01:06] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> kloraq said he will give you regions
  1451. [01:06] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> if you accept them
  1452. [01:06] <TTi> Olivaneksa[CRO], this is not about the regions anymore. Sadly...
  1453. [01:06] <MUFC92[IRE]> that's blackmail too
  1454. [01:06] <MUFC92[IRE]> from both sides
  1455. [01:06] <MUFC92[IRE]> lol
  1456. [01:06] <MUFC92[IRE]> nice allies we become :(
  1457. [01:06] <ArikAharon[ISR]> come on , lets get over with this
  1458. [01:06] <hawkoulis[GR]> lool
  1459. [01:06] <hawkoulis[GR]> nice
  1460. [01:06] <ArikAharon[ISR]> eIsrael VOTE AVOID
  1461. [01:06] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> i think this drama should be done
  1462. [01:07] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> but you can't end it with voting
  1463. [01:07] <hoffa13> ONE must have a really nice loll right now :P
  1464. [01:07] <Absfresh[BG]> and how
  1465. [01:07] <naufragiatu> +1000 hoffa13
  1466. [01:07] <Absfresh[BG]> by war , without voting
  1467. [01:08] <kloraq> we do not blackmail no one, let's not try to convert the issue to a two-sided conflict. I believe it is very clear that Bulgaria wants to NE Turkey, that is the reason for the termination of trial
  1468. [01:08] <kloraq> there is one side that causes that conflict, I have stated several times that we would have no problem becoming an ally with Bulgaria
  1469. [01:08] <MUFC92[IRE]> why? why are we in position to vote between long time ally and new country who is strong and want to join? why we don't respect full members??
  1470. [01:08] <MUFC92[IRE]> if Bulgaria don't want Turkey
  1471. [01:09] <MUFC92[IRE]> then there is no space for Turkey here
  1472. [01:09] <MUFC92[IRE]> I'm sad because of it
  1473. [01:09] <hawkoulis[GR]> MUFC92[IRE]
  1474. [01:09] <MUFC92[IRE]> because Turkey is strong
  1475. [01:09] <MUFC92[IRE]> and loyal country
  1476. [01:09] <MUFC92[IRE]> but that's how things are now..
  1477. [01:09] <hawkoulis[GR]> because of 2 regions
  1478. [01:09] <hawkoulis[GR]> lol
  1479. [01:09] <kloraq> MUFC92[IRE], if Bulgaria don't want Turkey, they should live with Turkey, not try to terminate the trial or NE them
  1480. [01:09] <MUFC92[IRE]> it's not about regions..
  1481. [01:09] <ArikAharon[ISR]> TTI pls finish this
  1482. [01:09] <hawkoulis[GR]> xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa BG is hitting 17m
  1483. [01:10] <kelemeta[HQ]> albania whiped, italy almost whiped, france and brazil soon to be attacked, spain with new regions, cro at last two regions in mexico....go ahead kill each other in this sensless war
  1484. [01:10] <hawkoulis[GR]> dmg against croatia
  1485. [01:10] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> http://www.erepublik.com/en/military/battlefield/23382
  1486. [01:10] <hawkoulis[GR]> xaxaxaxaxaxa for 2 regions
  1487. [01:10] <hawkoulis[GR]> xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa
  1488. [01:10] <hawkoulis[GR]> MUFC92[IRE] whta a brother
  1489. [01:10] <TTi> ArikAharon[ISR], what is there to finish as ppl dont want to vote on anything
  1490. [01:10] <hawkoulis[GR]> Absfresh[BG] brother can i propose NE?
  1491. [01:10] <hawkoulis[GR]> to you?
  1492. [01:11] <hawkoulis[GR]> loool
  1493. [01:11] <Absfresh[BG]> of course
  1494. [01:11] <MUFC92[IRE]> it's simple
  1495. [01:11] <MUFC92[IRE]> really :/
  1496. [01:11] <MUFC92[IRE]> it's hard but simple..
  1497. [01:11] <Absfresh[BG]> but do you have balls to vote it
  1498. [01:11] <hawkoulis[GR]> okie leave the alliance and i ll do it
  1499. [01:11] <hawkoulis[GR]> be sure of that
  1500. [01:11] <ArikAharon[ISR]> damn
  1501. [01:11] <TTi> Ok, This meeting is over. I will send the vote question IG to CP who can then answer to that.
  1502. [01:12] <hawkoulis[GR]> but if you have the guts leave
  1503. [01:12] <ArikAharon[ISR]> greece - bg war?
  1504. [01:12] <Absfresh[BG]> As I said, we have friends here
  1505. [01:12] <TTi> Useless to keep on this lol of discussion
  1506. [01:12] * Perfect_Knight ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
  1507. [01:12] <hawkoulis[GR]> and iof you are proud
  1508. [01:12] <Absfresh[BG]> thats why we want to stay in Eden
  1509. [01:12] <naufragiatu> let's not give in to nerves
  1510. [01:12] <MUFC92[IRE]> TTi:
  1511. [01:12] <MUFC92[IRE]> don't
  1512. [01:12] <MUFC92[IRE]> xD
  1513. [01:12] <MUFC92[IRE]> let's finish it now
  1514. [01:13] <MUFC92[IRE]> give us voices
  1515. [01:13] <MUFC92[IRE]> 1 by 1
  1516. [01:13] * TTi sets mode: +m
  1517. [01:13] <TTi> Vote on terminating Turkeys trial. Vote Yes/abstain/No
  1518. [01:13] * TTi sets mode: +v Olivaneksa[CRO]
  1519. [01:13] <TTi> Olivaneksa[CRO], Croatias vote
  1520. [01:14] <TTi> Olivaneksa[CRO], Croatias vote
  1521. [01:14] * TTi sets mode: -v Olivaneksa[CRO]
  1522. [01:15] * TTi sets mode: +v Nino54[AL]
  1523. [01:15] <TTi> Nino54[AL], Albanian vote
  1524. [01:15] <TTi> Nino54[AL], Albanian vote
  1525. [01:15] * TTi sets mode: -v Nino54[AL]
  1526. [01:15] * TTi sets mode: +v MUFC92[IRE]
  1527. [01:15] <TTi> MUFC92[IRE], Ireland
  1528. [01:16] <MUFC92[IRE]> Yes, terminate Turkish trial
  1529. [01:16] * TTi sets mode: -v MUFC92[IRE]
  1530. [01:16] * TTi sets mode: +v Kromov
  1531. [01:16] <TTi> Kromov, Ukr
  1532. [01:16] <TTi> Kromov, Ukr
  1533. [01:16] <Kromov> Ukraine (and Belarus) vote No
  1534. [01:16] <TTi> BY gave that vote before.
  1535. [01:16] <TTi> ty
  1536. [01:17] * TTi sets mode: -v Kromov
  1537. [01:17] * TTi sets mode: +v Justino[PT]
  1538. [01:17] <TTi> Justino[PT]
  1539. [01:17] <TTi> Justino[PT]
  1540. [01:17] * TTi sets mode: -v Justino[PT]
  1541. [01:17] * TTi sets mode: +v hawkoulis[GR]
  1542. [01:17] <TTi> hawkoulis[GR]
  1543. [01:18] <TTi> hawkoulis[GR]
  1544. [01:18] * TTi sets mode: -v hawkoulis[GR]
  1545. [01:18] * TTi sets mode: +v Glorietta[IT]
  1546. [01:18] <TTi> Glorietta[IT]
  1547. [01:18] <TTi> Glorietta[IT]
  1548. [01:18] <Glorietta[IT]> yes
  1549. [01:18] <Glorietta[IT]> i mean, terminate
  1550. [01:18] <TTi> Ok, thanks
  1551. [01:18] * TTi sets mode: -v Glorietta[IT]
  1552. [01:18] * TTi sets mode: +v GeluRomanu[RO]
  1553. [01:18] <TTi> GeluRomanu[RO]
  1554. [01:19] <TTi> GeluRomanu[RO]
  1555. [01:19] * TTi sets mode: -v GeluRomanu[RO]
  1556. [01:19] * TTi sets mode: +v Endymionis[NO]
  1557. [01:19] <TTi> Endymionis[NO]
  1558. [01:19] <TTi> Endymionis[NO]
  1559. [01:19] * TTi sets mode: -v Endymionis[NO]
  1560. [01:19] * TTi sets mode: +v Atracurium[CN]
  1561. [01:19] <TTi> Atracurium[CN]
  1562. [01:20] <Atracurium[CN]> China votes abstain. Because I think this vote is unfair.
  1563. [01:20] <TTi> Ok, thanks
  1564. [01:20] * TTi sets mode: -v Atracurium[CN]
  1565. [01:20] * TTi sets mode: +o ArikAharon[ISR]
  1566. [01:20] <TTi> ArikAharon[ISR]
  1567. [01:20] <ArikAharon[ISR]> eBG will vote too ?
  1568. [01:20] <TTi> your vote please
  1569. [01:20] <ArikAharon[ISR]> ok . Israel is abstain too. same reason as eChina
  1570. [01:21] * TTi sets mode: -o ArikAharon[ISR]
  1571. [01:21] * TTi sets mode: +v Absfresh[BG]
  1572. [01:21] <TTi> Absfresh[BG]
  1573. [01:21] <Absfresh[BG]> yes
  1574. [01:21] <Absfresh[BG]> yes
  1575. [01:21] * TTi sets mode: -v Absfresh[BG]
  1576. [01:22] <TTi> So for now the results are Yes x 3 No 2 Abstain 2
  1577. [01:22] <TTi> So we have 7 vote out of 14
  1578. [01:23] <TTi> For this I cannot confirm the result. As only 50% of the member countires has voted.
  1579. [01:23] * TTi sets mode: -m
  1580. [01:23] <ArikAharon[ISR]> this is bullshit :(
  1581. [01:23] <Atracurium[CN]> Maybe you can pm them to vote ingame...
  1582. [01:24] <Kromov> +
  1583. [01:24] <hawkoulis[GR]> we are here
  1584. [01:24] <ArikAharon[ISR]> I love you both. pls don't go
  1585. [01:24] <hawkoulis[GR]> nad we were here
  1586. [01:24] <KoHaH> and why they arre not voting now as they are here?
  1587. [01:24] <Kromov> SC can vote
  1588. [01:24] <TTi> hawkoulis[GR], you vote?
  1589. [01:24] <MUFC92[IRE]> -.-
  1590. [01:24] <hawkoulis[GR]> nop
  1591. [01:24] <Absfresh[BG]> SC can vote
  1592. [01:24] <MUFC92[IRE]> how can you be so blind?
  1593. [01:24] <hawkoulis[GR]> I think this vote is unfair.
  1594. [01:24] <MUFC92[IRE]> I don't understand..
  1595. [01:25] <MUFC92[IRE]> hawkoulis[GR]: it is....but there is nothing else to do :((
  1596. [01:25] <hawkoulis[GR]> there are many things
  1597. [01:25] <Absfresh[BG]> ok, folks, I am going to sleep
  1598. [01:25] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> ofc there are
  1599. [01:25] <TTi> I will contact CPs via IGm
  1600. [01:25] <Absfresh[BG]> we are expecting you decisions
  1601. [01:25] <TTi> I cannot confirm the result atm
  1602. [01:25] <Absfresh[BG]> tomorrow
  1603. [01:25] <MUFC92[IRE]> TTi: can you contact me ?
  1604. [01:26] <MUFC92[IRE]> because Irish CP
  1605. [01:26] <Absfresh[BG]> bye from me
  1606. [01:26] <MUFC92[IRE]> can't come online
  1607. [01:26] <TTi> sure
  1608. [01:26] <MUFC92[IRE]> thank you
  1609. [01:26] <hawkoulis[GR]> Absfresh[BG] you can expext our decision as long as we want!
  1610. [01:26] <Atracurium[CN]> Yes please TTi ... its getting late (or early).
  1611. [01:26] <hawkoulis[GR]> brother
  1612. [01:26] <MUFC92[IRE]> poor guy Atracurium[CN] lol
  1613. [01:26] <Nino54[AL]> lol
  1614. [01:26] <Atracurium[CN]> Oh yea.. =D
  1615. [01:26] <diuras> ladies, let's take a break ... night is a good counselor
  1616. [01:26] <diuras> Now, all of us make decisions at nerves and fatigue
  1617. [01:26] <TTi> Good night everyone
  1618. [01:26] <TTi> This summit is closed
  1619. [01:26] <ArikAharon[ISR]> gn
  1620. [01:26] <Atracurium[CN]> one word of advice.. take an annual leave the next day when you have an eden submit.
  1621. [01:27] <Atracurium[CN]> ~.~
  1622. [01:27] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> gn
  1623. [01:27] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> xD
  1624. [01:27] <Olivaneksa[CRO]> sleep well Atracurium[CN]
  1625. [01:27] * mihail_cazacu ([email protected]) has left #EDEN.summit
  1626. [01:27] <Atracurium[CN]> Good night everyone. TTi i will follow up the vote with a pm for your record purposes.
  1627. [01:27] * Kromov ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
  1628. [01:27] * Atracurium[CN] ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: Just For For A Short While Baby... )
  1629. [01:28] * kelemeta[HQ] is now known as kelemeta
  1630. [01:28] * TTi ([email protected]) has left #EDEN.summit
  1631. [01:28] * ArikAharon[ISR] ([email protected]) has left #EDEN.summit
  1632. [01:29] * Olivaneksa[CRO] ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: bb)
  1633. [01:29] <hawkoulis[GR]> Absfresh[BG]
  1634. [01:30] <hawkoulis[GR]> is everuthing ok?
  1635. [01:30] <hawkoulis[GR]> i m teasing you brother
  1636. [01:30] <MUFC92[IRE]> hawkoulis[GR]: that's reason we had to vote
  1637. [01:30] <MUFC92[IRE]> trolling them
  1638. [01:30] <MUFC92[IRE]> a lot
  1639. [01:30] <MUFC92[IRE]> stop bro :)
  1640. [01:31] <hawkoulis[GR]> i dont blackmail anyone
  1641. [01:31] <hawkoulis[GR]> bro
  1642. [01:31] <hawkoulis[GR]> i didnt make anyone NE
  1643. [01:31] <hawkoulis[GR]> thats why
  1644. [01:31] <hoffa13> I expect logs on pastebin ok?
  1645. [01:31] <hoffa13> :))))
  1646. [01:31] <hawkoulis[GR]> we did vote
  1647. [01:31] <hawkoulis[GR]> hoffa13 XAXAXAXAXAXAXAxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa
  1648. [01:31] <naufragiatu> yeah, remember to put the logs on public and to last forever
  1649. [01:32] <hoffa13> that 2
  1650. [01:32] <MUFC92[IRE]> we could be faster
  1651. [01:32] <hoffa13> +1 naufragiatu
  1652. [01:32] <hoffa13> :))))
  1653. [01:32] <MUFC92[IRE]> and publish logs
  1654. [01:32] <MUFC92[IRE]> in our newspapers
  1655. [01:32] <MUFC92[IRE]> that will show them!!
  1656. [01:32] <MUFC92[IRE]> xD
  1657. [01:32] * Nino54[AL] is now known as Nino54
  1658. [01:32] <hoffa13> http://www.erepublik.com/en/main/law/Bulgaria/100810 :X
  1659. [01:33] <hawkoulis[GR]> MUFC92[IRE] are you threating me?
  1660. [01:33] <MUFC92[IRE]> where?
  1661. [01:33] <hawkoulis[GR]> xmm probably i have to speak to my greek fellows at ireland
  1662. [01:33] <hawkoulis[GR]> :P
  1663. [01:33] <MUFC92[IRE]> hahaha
  1664. [01:34] <MUFC92[IRE]> columbia <3
  1665. [01:34] <hawkoulis[GR]> xaxaxaxaxaxaxaXAXAXAXA
  1666. [01:34] <hawkoulis[GR]> yeap
  1667. [01:34] <MUFC92[IRE]> too many of Libercunts tbh
  1668. [01:34] <MUFC92[IRE]> :(
  1669. [01:34] <MUFC92[IRE]> but columbia is on our side :P
  1670. [01:34] <hawkoulis[GR]> MUFC92[IRE] some candies can change that
  1671. [01:35] <MUFC92[IRE]> then she would never become CP again :(
  1672. [01:35] <MUFC92[IRE]> ;)
  1673. [01:36] <hawkoulis[GR]> :P
  1674. [01:36] <naufragiatu> it would be nice if we could stop acting like angry kids on the playground
  1675. [01:36] <kelemeta> not gonna happen m8
  1676. [01:36] * LucifelL ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
  1677. [01:36] <MUFC92[IRE]> true
  1678. [01:37] <MUFC92[IRE]> kelemeta: cro pto again :P
  1679. [01:37] <hawkoulis[GR]> MUFC92[IRE] then
  1680. [01:37] <MUFC92[IRE]> o/
  1681. [01:37] <MUFC92[IRE]> fino si dogurao bre :D
  1682. [01:37] <MUFC92[IRE]> svaka cast ;)
  1683. [01:37] <hawkoulis[GR]> you should support a voting between TR and BG as BG first asked
  1684. [01:37] <hawkoulis[GR]> but first we have to make them equal
  1685. [01:38] <hawkoulis[GR]> as trial members
  1686. [01:38] <kelemeta> aj bre fala:D
  1687. [01:38] <hawkoulis[GR]> and then we ll have decide
  1688. [01:38] <MUFC92[IRE]> hawkoulis[GR]: Irish vote was never questionable ;)
  1689. [01:38] <MUFC92[IRE]> we are loyal to our long time friends :)
  1690. [01:38] <hawkoulis[GR]> irish vot was unfair
  1691. [01:38] <hawkoulis[GR]> me too
  1692. [01:38] <MUFC92[IRE]> unfair is thing what we done to Bulgaria
  1693. [01:39] <MUFC92[IRE]> they just don't want turkey
  1694. [01:39] <MUFC92[IRE]> why are we trying to force them
  1695. [01:39] <MUFC92[IRE]> it's shamefull
  1696. [01:39] <kelemeta> irish vote was done by vMoD , not CP or MoFA to my understanding
  1697. [01:39] <hawkoulis[GR]> they blackmail us
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