VirtualPreacher is dishonest for Christ

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+jleija
that's what happens when we coerce inquiring minds into an ideology. we often forget that scientist are mere fallible mortals like the rest of us
@VirtualPreacher
"call your representatives in congress and urge them to vote yes on the space monkey funding initiative"
+TonySnark
Hi Lania
+Glitterbee
VirtualPreacher: Are you a supporter of Trump?
Ignoring TonySnark!*@*
@VirtualPreacher
define supporter
+Glitterbee
Do you think Trump is doing a good job as president.
+jleija
VirtualPreacher: lol. yeap. exactly right. "don't bite the hand that feeds you"
@VirtualPreacher
he seems to stand upright on his own
+Glitterbee
VirtualPreacher: Is being dishonest consistent with Christ's teachings?
@VirtualPreacher
so far he has been doing what he said he would do
+jleija
i think he is doing a good job, given the cards he was dealt
@VirtualPreacher
nope.
+Glitterbee
VirtualPreacher: You are unwilling to answer questions about your beliefs.
Ignoring VirtualPreacher!*@*
+Glitterbee
I will no longer engage you.
+YouCommiePinko
DoctorMirabilis: Oh I'm excited by the JWST
* DoctorMirabilis raises an eyebrow.
+jleija
i think the answer was "nope"
+YouCommiePinko
James Webb Space Telescope
+Glitterbee
Also, you have stated being dishonest is consistent with Christ's teachings.
+DoctorMirabilis
YouCommiePinko, it's been a long time coming, aye.
+jleija
Glitterbee: i think your connection might be loosing every other line
Glitterbee: i think your connection might be loosing every other line
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+Glitterbee
jleija: English only, please.
+jleija
lol
+DoctorMirabilis
I'm not American, but I pick up a lot of...interesting news about his endeavors as PotUS. I'm curious about the opinions of actual voters. jleija, VirtualPreacher, what do you like about his half-year in office so far?
+YouCommiePinko
Direct imaging of exoplanets
+jleija
bye bye Glitterbee
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There's so many exoplanets
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Bye, jleija.
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+jleija
DoctorMirabilis: first, he seems to be doing what he said he was going to do, or at least trying, given the current congress
+Glitterbee
jleija: What has he done that he said he would do?
+jleija
DoctorMirabilis: that in itself is a big departure from the regular politician
+Glitterbee
Please name three things.
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+jleija
DoctorMirabilis: and I like that
+Glitterbee
DoctorMirabilis: Do you notice that he hasn't actually told you what he likes.
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+jleija
DoctorMirabilis: second, he speaks his mind. Which could be troublesome sometimes but I take it as fresh air
+DoctorMirabilis
jleija, fair enough. Does it matter _what_ he's doing, or are you satisfied primarily by his actually following through?
+schuc
Thanks Profound! Now the masses can hear me sing. Haha
+Glitterbee
He speaks his mind. Also, his mind is that of a 6-year old.
+jleija
DoctorMirabilis: yes, it does matter. although he hasn't been able to do as much as he seems to pursue, he already has done several good things
+DoctorMirabilis
VirtualPreacher, I understand.
+Glitterbee
DoctorMirabilis: Do you notice he hasn't yet told you a single thing he's done?
No specific examples whatsoever.
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+jleija
DoctorMirabilis: like illegal immigration has been reduced a lot, even when he's been obstructed
@Fundamenta|ist
Its hard to be a Brewers fan
Ignoring jleija!*@*
+DoctorMirabilis
Glitterbee, if I need your opinion I'll be sure to ask for it.
+Glitterbee
Fundamenta|ist: This is a debate room.
DoctorMirabilis: I haven't yet given you any opinions.
@Fundamenta|ist
Glitterbee: Yes it is.
+DoctorMirabilis
Glitterbee, substitute "opinion" for "comments of any sort".
+Glitterbee
DoctorMirabilis: Will you be requiring translation of all your posts?
I promise in my posts to only use the words I intend to use.
@Fundamenta|ist
Glitterbee: That doesn't make it any harder to be a Milwaukee Brewers fan :)
+Glitterbee
Fundamenta|ist: Error.
@Fundamenta|ist
TonySnark: Hey
+DoctorMirabilis
jleija, how so?
+Glitterbee
Fundamenta|ist: If you were born in Yemen, would you have become a Muslim fundamentalist?
@Fundamenta|ist
Next time I am born in Yemen, I will let you know. Until then, I have no clue.
+Glitterbee
Fundamenta|ist: You've not considered your birth culture as a factor in your beliefs as an adult?
I find that shocking.
+DoctorMirabilis
jleija, what do you mean by "untied"?
+Glitterbee
I would be an atheist wherever I was born.
As I chose atheism in a non-atheistic society.
I can't say I would be an atheist whenever I was born. I think with access to a little bit of knowledge I would see through the claims of theism.
@Fundamenta|ist
Glitterbee: Its kind of pointless to comment on a "what if" scenerio.
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+Glitterbee
Fundamenta|ist: On the contrary, counterfactuals are a core part of philosophy.
* Fundamenta|ist is not a philosopher.
+Glitterbee
A counterfactual conditional (abbreviated cf), is a conditional containing an if-clause which is contrary to fact. The term counterfactual was coined by Nelson Goodman in 1947,[1] extending Roderick Chisholm's (1946) notion of a "contrary-to-fact conditional".[2] The study of counterfactual speculation has increasingly engaged the interest of scholars in a wide range of domains such as philosophy,[3] human geography, psychology,[4] cognitive psychology,[5] history,[6] political science,[7] economics,[8] social psychology,[9] law,[10] organizational theory,[11] marketing,[12] and epidemiology.[13]
A counterfactual conditional (abbreviated cf), is a conditional containing an if-clause which is contrary to fact. The term counterfactual was coined by Nelson Goodman in 1947,[1] extending Roderick Chisholm's (1946) notion of a "contrary-to-fact conditional".[2] The study of counterfactual speculation has increasingly engaged the interest of scholars in a wide range of domains such as philosophy,[3] human geography, psychology,[4] cognitive psychology,[5] history,[6] political science,[7] economics,[8] social psychology,[9] law,[10] organizational theory,[11] marketing,[12] and epidemiology.[13]
Sorry.
Only meant to post once.
Are you also not interested in human geography?
And psychology?
Perhaps you could prepare a list of topics you're interested in and we could limit our discussion to that.
+DoctorMirabilis
jleija, ambiguity of definition?
+Guest81607
Glitterbee If that is true, its saying that anyone is free to be atheist or theist. You chose atheism for your reasons, people choose theism for reasons and each could be as they decide. Most have decided theism,it seems to be the strongest choice, the one which is predominently in public
+Glitterbee
So far baseball seems to be near the top.
@Fundamenta|ist
Not particularly.
* Fundamenta|ist does like Baseball and Football.
+Glitterbee
Guest03859: Some reasons are better than others. Agreed?
* Fundamenta|ist also likes religion.
+Glitterbee
Fundamenta|ist: I will no longer engage you at this time as you're not interested in debate.
After confirming this is a debate channel.
Okay, religion. What religions do you like?
I like Christianity and Buddhism.
Buddhism is the best religion, in my opinion.
+DoctorMirabilis
jleija, gotcha.
* Fundamenta|ist likes good food as well.
Ignoring Fundamenta|ist!*@*
+Glitterbee
I stopped engaging you.
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+Glitterbee
DoctorMirabilis: How's your 'conversation' going with the scholar jleija.
Many specific, falsifiable claims have been made, no doubt.
+DoctorMirabilis
jleija, VirtualPreacher, do you believe he actually colluded with the Russians during the campaign? If he did, would it change your opinions of him?
+Glitterbee
DoctorMirabilis: jleija and VirtualPreacher do not believe in reason.
They are team-based apologists who are foot soldiers in their movement. They operator as message amplifiers for their team's leaders. Understanding is not a requisite for their role.
Repeating the message of the autocrat removes dread and uncertainty.
+DoctorMirabilis
VirtualPreacher, like which ones? (I'm asking because I don't know, not being critical.)
+Glitterbee
(You have to literally tell them you mean them no harm so they don't get their feelings hurt)
+DoctorMirabilis
jleija, why zerohedge?
+DoctorMirabilis
jleija, gotcha.
Thanks for that, VirtualPreacher.
+YouCommiePinko
The way things are going to queue is going to get longer.
the queue*
+DoctorMirabilis
VirtualPreacher, reference?
+Glitterbee
YouCommiePinko: To what are you referring.
+DoctorMirabilis
VirtualPreacher, just one website will do.
+Glitterbee
DoctorMirabilis thinks this is a productive conversation for him.
I find that interesting.
As it will clearly end in VirtualPreacher and jleija getting mad and blurting out a few fallacies.
After which they will declare victory for their team.
VirtualPreacher may or may not lose control of his emotions and start banning people to protect himself.
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