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  3. Subtitles by explosiveskull
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  7. (CLEARS THROAT)
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  11. Continuing today's
  12. hearing on future VA funding...
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  16. the Senate Committee on
  17. Veterans' Affairs...
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  21. is called back to order.
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  25. CHAIRMAN: We'll hear from our
  26. next witness.
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  30. Will you please stand
  31. and raise your right hand?
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  35. My apologies.
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  39. Please raise your right hand.
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  43. Do you swear that the testimony
  44. you're about to give...
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  48. this committee will be the
  49. truth, the whole truth...
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  53. and nothing but the
  54. truth, so help you God?
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  58. I do.
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  62. Please state your name.
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  66. Private First Class Adam Green,
  67. United States Army, retired.
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  71. Mr. Green, I understand you've
  72. prepared a statement?
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  76. I have, sir.
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  80. You may enter it into the record
  81. at this time.
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  85. Mr. Chairman, members of the
  86. Committee...
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  90. I want to thank you
  91. for the opportunity...
  92.  
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  95. to speak with you today.
  96.  
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  99. I served in the military f...
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  103. I'm sorry, if I could just...
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  107. Sure, go ahead.
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  111. Thank you, sir.
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  115. I've always liked numbers.
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  119. Whenever I have a hard time
  120. wrapping my head around...
  121.  
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  124. something, I find that numbers
  125. make things clearer for me.
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  129. They help me understand
  130. decisions that are made...
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  134. and the impacts of those
  135. decisions.
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  139. So, if it's all right...
  140.  
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  143. I'd like the start with the
  144. number 1.4 million.
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  148. That's the number of men
  149. and women...
  150.  
  151. 34
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  153. who are currently serving
  154. in our military.
  155.  
  156. 35
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  158. 555...
  159.  
  160. 36
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  162. that's how many days passed
  163. before we invaded one country...
  164.  
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  167. after having been attacked
  168. by another.
  169.  
  170. 38
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  172. 19... is how old I was when
  173. I enlisted.
  174.  
  175. 39
  176. 00:03:40,361 --> 00:03:43,028
  177. Three is the number of hours
  178. that passed from the time...
  179.  
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  182. I arrived in Iraq to the time
  183. our transport...
  184.  
  185. 41
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  187. was destroyed by an I.E.D.
  188.  
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  191. And then there's six.
  192.  
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  195. That's the number of inches the
  196. piece of shrapnel was...
  197.  
  198. 44
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  200. that severed my spinal cord.
  201.  
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  204. The only problems with numbers
  205. is they can be impersonal.
  206.  
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  209. A decision you made had a
  210. life-changing impact on me...
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  214. and a lot of soldiers like me.
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  218. Now, I'm not a military expert.
  219.  
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  222. I don't know a whole lot
  223. about geopolitical affairs.
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  227. I'm just an ordinary American.
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  231. And I understand that you've
  232. asked me here...
  233.  
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  236. because you all have
  237. some questions for me,
  238.  
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  241. but if it's all right, I'd like
  242. to ask all of you a question.
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  246. How the hell did this happen?
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  250. BUSH: <i>My fellow citizens,
  251. at this hour...</i>
  252.  
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  255. <i>American and coalition forces
  256. are in the early stages...</i>
  257.  
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  260. <i>of military operations
  261. to disarm Iraq, to free...</i>
  262.  
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  265. <i>its people and to defend
  266. the world from grave danger.</i>
  267.  
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  270. BLITZER: <i>The start of the
  271. campaign called Shock and Awe.</i>
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  275. BROKAW: <i>Shock and Awe.</i>
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  279. - RATHER: <i>Shock and Awe.</i>
  280. - MAN: <i>Shock and Awe, indeed.</i>
  281.  
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  284. REPORTER #1: <i>Air raid sirens
  285. are going off in Baghdad...</i>
  286.  
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  289. REPORTER #2: <i>The massive
  290. military operation...</i>
  291.  
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  294. <i>to topple Saddam Hussein
  295. is now in effect.</i>
  296.  
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  299. REPORTER #3:
  300. <i>Firing 600 Cruise missiles...</i>
  301.  
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  304. <i>and every type of war plane
  305. in the American arsenal.</i>
  306.  
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  309. BROKAW: <i>A fearsome display
  310. of American military might.</i>
  311.  
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  314. REPORTER #4:
  315. <i>The scale of this attack...</i>
  316.  
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  319. <i>is considerably higher than
  320. anything we've seen before.</i>
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  324. REPORTER #5: <i>We're taking out
  325. whole buildings...</i>
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  329. <i>with these Cruise missiles.</i>
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  333. RATHER:
  334. <i>U.S. war planes unleashed...</i>
  335.  
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  338. <i>to promise massive bombardment
  339. of Baghdad.</i>
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  343. BLITZER: <i>3,000 Tomahawk
  344. Cruise missiles...</i>
  345.  
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  348. <i>satellite-guided precision
  349. bombs, laser-guided bombs.</i>
  350.  
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  353. REPORTER #6: <i>I think the
  354. citizens of Baghdad know...</i>
  355.  
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  358. <i>exactly what the Pentagon
  359. means by Shock and Awe.</i>
  360.  
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  363. REPORTER #7: <i>Just over the
  364. Kuwait-Iraq border...</i>
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  368. <i>we watched as columns of troops
  369. moved into the country.</i>
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  373. RATHER: <i>They're well on their
  374. way to Baghdad.</i>
  375.  
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  378. <i>They have met resistance.</i>
  379.  
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  382. WOMAN: <i>We can't leave the
  383. television...</i>
  384.  
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  387. <i>every tank, every helicopter...
  388. is that my son?</i>
  389.  
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  392. REPORTER #8: <i>Now Baghdad is
  393. within striking distance...</i>
  394.  
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  397. <i>just a few short miles away...</i>
  398.  
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  401. <i>as U.S. troops make their final
  402. push forward.</i>
  403.  
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  406. <i>We want to slaughter
  407. them all...</i>
  408.  
  409. 88
  410. 00:05:59,565 --> 00:06:02,534
  411. <i>those invaders, their tombs
  412. will be here in Iraq.</i>
  413.  
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  416. REPORTER #9: <i>If Saddam Hussein
  417. is alive, he is quote...</i>
  418.  
  419. 90
  420. 00:06:04,805 --> 00:06:08,272
  421. <i>"Not in control of his military
  422. and of his government."</i>
  423.  
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  426. BUSH: <i>These are opening stages
  427. of what will be a broad...</i>
  428.  
  429. 92
  430. 00:06:10,911 --> 00:06:11,913
  431. <i>and concerted campaign.</i>
  432.  
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  435. <i>Could be longer and more
  436. difficult than some predict.</i>
  437.  
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  440. <i>And helping Iraqis achieve
  441. a united, stable...</i>
  442.  
  443. 95
  444. 00:06:19,151 --> 00:06:23,587
  445. <i>and free country will require
  446. our sustained commitment.</i>
  447.  
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  450. <i>And you can know that our
  451. forces will be coming home...</i>
  452.  
  453. 97
  454. 00:06:27,293 --> 00:06:29,863
  455. <i>as soon as their work is done.</i>
  456.  
  457. 98
  458. 00:06:33,666 --> 00:06:35,769
  459. Keep moving! Keep moving!
  460. Let's go!
  461.  
  462. 99
  463. 00:06:38,805 --> 00:06:40,772
  464. - Where are they taking us?
  465. - Shut up. Head down.
  466.  
  467. 100
  468. 00:06:40,774 --> 00:06:42,741
  469. Keep your mouth shut or I'll
  470. blow your fucking head off.
  471.  
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  474. - All right, all right.
  475. - Are you a soldier?
  476.  
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  479. - Journalist.
  480. - Who do you work for?
  481.  
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  484. - Knight Ridder.
  485. - Never heard of it.
  486.  
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  488. 00:06:48,582 --> 00:06:50,151
  489. You should read more.
  490.  
  491. 105
  492. 00:06:54,788 --> 00:06:55,986
  493. What is your name?
  494.  
  495. 106
  496. 00:06:55,988 --> 00:06:57,892
  497. Jonathan Landay.
  498.  
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  500. 00:07:00,594 --> 00:07:02,930
  501. Goodbye, Jonathan Landay.
  502.  
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  505. (TRIGGER CLICKS)
  506.  
  507. 109
  508. 00:07:08,067 --> 00:07:11,101
  509. Exercise complete.
  510.  
  511. 110
  512. 00:07:11,103 --> 00:07:14,272
  513. What you have just engaged in is
  514. called The Gray Man Exercise.
  515.  
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  518. And what you have just
  519. witnessed...
  520.  
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  522. 00:07:16,310 --> 00:07:20,044
  523. is a colossal failure
  524. of that exercise.
  525.  
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  528. - If a journalist is captured...
  529. - <i>(PHONE RINGING)</i>
  530.  
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  532. 00:07:21,647 --> 00:07:23,582
  533. terrorists may keep you alive...
  534.  
  535. 115
  536. 00:07:23,584 --> 00:07:27,284
  537. in hopes of getting information
  538. or exchanging you for a ransom.
  539.  
  540. 116
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  542. But if you give them a reason
  543. to kill you, they will.
  544.  
  545. 117
  546. 00:07:30,856 --> 00:07:33,291
  547. The purpose of this exercise
  548. is to teach you...
  549.  
  550. 118
  551. 00:07:33,293 --> 00:07:35,993
  552. how to avoid drawing the
  553. attention of your captors.
  554.  
  555. 119
  556. 00:07:35,995 --> 00:07:37,294
  557. Hence the name, Gray Man.
  558.  
  559. 120
  560. 00:07:37,296 --> 00:07:38,964
  561. Can you untie me?
  562.  
  563. 121
  564. 00:07:38,966 --> 00:07:40,965
  565. This could save your life one
  566. day, you understand?
  567.  
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  570. I do, I've been in 11 war zones,
  571. I've been shot at...
  572.  
  573. 123
  574. 00:07:43,670 --> 00:07:46,637
  575. I've been held captive, I take
  576. this very seriously.
  577.  
  578. 124
  579. 00:07:46,639 --> 00:07:50,808
  580. But if you don't untie me right
  581. now, I may lose my job.
  582.  
  583. 125
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  585. And I'm fairly certain that
  586. none of this training...
  587.  
  588. 126
  589. 00:07:53,046 --> 00:07:54,678
  590. is going to be very useful...
  591.  
  592. 127
  593. 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,651
  594. when I'm mopping the floor
  595. at Staples.
  596.  
  597. 128
  598. 00:08:05,091 --> 00:08:07,058
  599. REPORTER:
  600. <i>Both of the twin towers...</i>
  601.  
  602. 129
  603. 00:08:07,060 --> 00:08:09,760
  604. <i>the World Trade Center in New
  605. York's lower Manhattan...</i>
  606.  
  607. 130
  608. 00:08:09,762 --> 00:08:13,164
  609. <i>have been struck by planes this
  610. morning within 20 minutes.</i>
  611.  
  612. 131
  613. 00:08:13,166 --> 00:08:15,200
  614. <i>First, it was the North Tower
  615. that was struck...</i>
  616.  
  617. 132
  618. 00:08:15,202 --> 00:08:17,736
  619. <i>with a gaping hole left in two
  620. sides of that building.</i>
  621.  
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  624. Good God.
  625.  
  626. 134
  627. 00:08:19,139 --> 00:08:21,171
  628. <i>20 minutes later, the second
  629. building...</i>
  630.  
  631. 135
  632. 00:08:21,173 --> 00:08:24,075
  633. <i>the second tower in that World
  634. Trade Center complex...</i>
  635.  
  636. 136
  637. 00:08:24,077 --> 00:08:25,976
  638. I think we should keep Elizabeth
  639. in school.
  640.  
  641. 137
  642. 00:08:25,978 --> 00:08:27,277
  643. Yeah, no, I think that's
  644. a good idea.
  645.  
  646. 138
  647. 00:08:27,279 --> 00:08:29,214
  648. Why freak her out, huh?
  649.  
  650. 139
  651. 00:08:29,216 --> 00:08:32,417
  652. And I'll call Ali and Jennifer
  653. as soon as the phones open up.
  654.  
  655. 140
  656. 00:08:32,419 --> 00:08:33,751
  657. - I love you.
  658. - I love you.
  659.  
  660. 141
  661. 00:08:33,753 --> 00:08:35,086
  662. Okay.
  663.  
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  666. REPORTER:
  667. <i>We should tell you that...</i>
  668.  
  669. 143
  670. 00:08:36,723 --> 00:08:38,423
  671. <i>we have gotten calls from
  672. people...</i>
  673.  
  674. 144
  675. 00:08:38,425 --> 00:08:40,692
  676. <i>who live and work around the
  677. Pentagon who have told us...</i>
  678.  
  679. 145
  680. 00:08:40,694 --> 00:08:42,159
  681. <i>that they have seen
  682. something...</i>
  683.  
  684. 146
  685. 00:08:42,161 --> 00:08:44,162
  686. <i>that they have described
  687. as an explosion.</i>
  688.  
  689. 147
  690. 00:08:44,164 --> 00:08:47,101
  691. <i>This is information we have not
  692. been able to confirm.</i>
  693.  
  694. 148
  695. 00:09:23,203 --> 00:09:24,372
  696. Get up.
  697.  
  698. 149
  699. 00:09:27,741 --> 00:09:29,207
  700. Sorry, Dad.
  701.  
  702. 150
  703. 00:09:29,209 --> 00:09:31,775
  704. Monday Night Football went long.
  705.  
  706. 151
  707. 00:09:31,777 --> 00:09:33,813
  708. Let's clean this place up.
  709.  
  710. 152
  711. 00:09:41,121 --> 00:09:42,453
  712. COMMENTATOR: <i>Trade Center
  713. here in New York...</i>
  714.  
  715. 153
  716. 00:09:42,455 --> 00:09:44,322
  717. <i>have been hit by airplanes.</i>
  718.  
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  720. 00:09:44,324 --> 00:09:47,491
  721. <i>In Washington, there is a large
  722. fire at the Pentagon.</i>
  723.  
  724. 155
  725. 00:09:47,493 --> 00:09:49,360
  726. <i>The Pentagon has been
  727. evacuated.</i>
  728.  
  729. 156
  730. 00:09:49,362 --> 00:09:52,496
  731. <i>And there is, you can see,
  732. perhaps, the second tower...</i>
  733.  
  734. 157
  735. 00:09:52,498 --> 00:09:56,266
  736. <i>the front tower, the top
  737. portion of which is collapsing.</i>
  738.  
  739. 158
  740. 00:09:56,268 --> 00:09:58,502
  741. <i>Good Lord.</i>
  742.  
  743. 159
  744. 00:09:58,504 --> 00:10:03,441
  745. Lot of people going to need
  746. a drink tonight.
  747.  
  748. 160
  749. 00:10:03,443 --> 00:10:05,746
  750. Soldiers drink free.
  751.  
  752. 161
  753. 00:10:08,515 --> 00:10:11,448
  754. REPORTER:
  755. <i>There are no words.</i>
  756.  
  757. 162
  758. 00:10:11,450 --> 00:10:15,819
  759. <i>All federal office buildings
  760. now...</i>
  761.  
  762. 163
  763. 00:10:15,821 --> 00:10:18,490
  764. <i>all federal office buildings
  765. in Washington, D.C.</i>
  766.  
  767. 164
  768. 00:10:18,492 --> 00:10:21,860
  769. <i>are being evacuated as we speak
  770. to you now.</i>
  771.  
  772. 165
  773. 00:10:21,862 --> 00:10:24,895
  774. <i>We are in the middle of an
  775. extraordinary catastrophe.</i>
  776.  
  777. 166
  778. 00:10:24,897 --> 00:10:27,932
  779. <i>The most important things to
  780. tell you if you just joined...</i>
  781.  
  782. 167
  783. 00:10:27,934 --> 00:10:31,034
  784. <i>in is that what has all the
  785. makings of an extraordinarily..</i>
  786.  
  787. 168
  788. 00:10:31,036 --> 00:10:34,505
  789. <i>well-planned terrorist attack
  790. on both Washington and New York</i>
  791.  
  792. 169
  793. 00:10:34,507 --> 00:10:35,973
  794. <i>has taken place this morning.</i>
  795.  
  796. 170
  797. 00:10:35,975 --> 00:10:38,108
  798. <i>The Trade Centers here
  799. in New York...</i>
  800.  
  801. 171
  802. 00:10:38,110 --> 00:10:40,410
  803. <i>the two World Trade Center
  804. towers have collapsed...</i>
  805.  
  806. 172
  807. 00:10:40,412 --> 00:10:43,717
  808. <i>after being hit by planes.</i>
  809.  
  810. 173
  811. 00:10:46,953 --> 00:10:50,053
  812. Yeah, this is John Walcott
  813. from Knight Ridder.
  814.  
  815. 174
  816. 00:10:50,055 --> 00:10:51,789
  817. Is he there?
  818.  
  819. 175
  820. 00:10:51,791 --> 00:10:55,860
  821. Yeah, okay, well, tell him
  822. I'll try him back later.
  823.  
  824. 176
  825. 00:10:55,862 --> 00:10:57,294
  826. Thank you.
  827.  
  828. 177
  829. 00:10:57,296 --> 00:10:59,130
  830. I just spoke with my wife.
  831.  
  832. 178
  833. 00:10:59,132 --> 00:11:01,432
  834. She and the kids are
  835. afraid to leave the house.
  836.  
  837. 179
  838. 00:11:01,434 --> 00:11:04,101
  839. What are they doing over there?
  840.  
  841. 180
  842. 00:11:04,103 --> 00:11:05,370
  843. They're watching the White
  844. House.
  845.  
  846. 181
  847. 00:11:05,372 --> 00:11:06,971
  848. To see if it gets hit?
  849.  
  850. 182
  851. 00:11:06,973 --> 00:11:08,338
  852. Yes.
  853.  
  854. 183
  855. 00:11:08,340 --> 00:11:10,975
  856. Oh, Jesus. All right, go home
  857. to your family.
  858.  
  859. 184
  860. 00:11:10,977 --> 00:11:14,111
  861. And tell your colleagues that
  862. maybe they want to stay away...
  863.  
  864. 185
  865. 00:11:14,113 --> 00:11:15,446
  866. from the windows, okay?
  867.  
  868. 186
  869. 00:11:15,448 --> 00:11:17,515
  870. - Thanks, John.
  871. - Yeah.
  872.  
  873. 187
  874. 00:11:17,517 --> 00:11:19,520
  875. Okay. All right. Okay.
  876.  
  877. 188
  878. 00:11:22,421 --> 00:11:25,823
  879. <i>Their working thesis is that
  880. this is overseas terrorism...</i>
  881.  
  882. 189
  883. 00:11:25,825 --> 00:11:27,292
  884. <i>not domestic.</i>
  885.  
  886. 190
  887. 00:11:27,294 --> 00:11:29,494
  888. <i>Attention will quickly turn to
  889. the bin Laden group...</i>
  890.  
  891. 191
  892. 00:11:29,496 --> 00:11:31,295
  893. <i>because it has long
  894. tentacles.</i>
  895.  
  896. 192
  897. 00:11:31,297 --> 00:11:34,064
  898. <i>There are very few others that
  899. could have pulled this off.</i>
  900.  
  901. 193
  902. 00:11:34,066 --> 00:11:35,833
  903. Are we sending somebody
  904. to New York?
  905.  
  906. 194
  907. 00:11:35,835 --> 00:11:38,468
  908. Ken Moore at Suvu was already up
  909. there covering Wall Street.
  910.  
  911. 195
  912. 00:11:38,470 --> 00:11:39,971
  913. What's going on over at State?
  914.  
  915. 196
  916. 00:11:39,973 --> 00:11:41,840
  917. Powell's in Peru.
  918.  
  919. 197
  920. 00:11:41,842 --> 00:11:43,441
  921. They're working on getting
  922. him home as soon as possible.
  923.  
  924. 198
  925. 00:11:43,443 --> 00:11:46,311
  926. All right, what we need to do
  927. is track the President.
  928.  
  929. 199
  930. 00:11:46,313 --> 00:11:48,612
  931. Track his top people
  932. and find out...
  933.  
  934. 200
  935. 00:11:48,614 --> 00:11:50,848
  936. who's responsible for all this.
  937.  
  938. 201
  939. 00:11:50,850 --> 00:11:53,550
  940. We need as many sources
  941. at as many agencies...
  942.  
  943. 202
  944. 00:11:53,552 --> 00:11:56,855
  945. to go on the record and tell us
  946. all what we know has to be true.
  947.  
  948. 203
  949. 00:11:56,857 --> 00:12:00,357
  950. Al Qaeda! Al Qaeda!
  951. It's Al Qaeda.
  952.  
  953. 204
  954. 00:12:00,359 --> 00:12:01,895
  955. It's definitely Al Qaeda.
  956.  
  957. 205
  958. 00:12:03,262 --> 00:12:05,429
  959. What the hell are you wearing?
  960.  
  961. 206
  962. 00:12:05,431 --> 00:12:07,631
  963. Well, the wifey wanted
  964. to evacuate...
  965.  
  966. 207
  967. 00:12:07,633 --> 00:12:11,369
  968. but she locked the cat
  969. and the keys in the cars.
  970.  
  971. 208
  972. 00:12:11,371 --> 00:12:13,938
  973. So, I biked in.
  974.  
  975. 209
  976. 00:12:13,940 --> 00:12:17,909
  977. We need to know how
  978. they pulled this off.
  979.  
  980. 210
  981. 00:12:17,911 --> 00:12:19,977
  982. Anybody needs to go home
  983. to their family...
  984.  
  985. 211
  986. 00:12:19,979 --> 00:12:21,913
  987. feel free to do so.
  988.  
  989. 212
  990. 00:12:21,915 --> 00:12:24,182
  991. Just came from the family.
  992.  
  993. 213
  994. 00:12:24,184 --> 00:12:26,887
  995. Let's get to work.
  996.  
  997. 214
  998. 00:12:28,121 --> 00:12:29,654
  999. It's Walcott.
  1000.  
  1001. 215
  1002. 00:12:29,656 --> 00:12:32,356
  1003. <i>Today, our fellow citizens,
  1004. our way of life...</i>
  1005.  
  1006. 216
  1007. 00:12:32,358 --> 00:12:37,127
  1008. <i>our very freedom, came under
  1009. attack in a series...</i>
  1010.  
  1011. 217
  1012. 00:12:37,129 --> 00:12:40,198
  1013. <i>of deliberate and deadly
  1014. terrorist acts.</i>
  1015.  
  1016. 218
  1017. 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:41,632
  1018. Adam, hand me the
  1019. Jameson, please.
  1020.  
  1021. 219
  1022. 00:12:41,634 --> 00:12:43,934
  1023. Yes, sir. Here you go.
  1024.  
  1025. 220
  1026. 00:12:43,936 --> 00:12:45,238
  1027. Thank you, son.
  1028.  
  1029. 221
  1030. 00:12:46,973 --> 00:12:48,305
  1031. It's on the house, gentlemen.
  1032.  
  1033. 222
  1034. 00:12:48,307 --> 00:12:50,042
  1035. Thanks.
  1036.  
  1037. 223
  1038. 00:12:51,074 --> 00:12:52,577
  1039. Dad's saying we're staying open
  1040. as late as they want.
  1041.  
  1042. 224
  1043. 00:12:52,579 --> 00:12:55,145
  1044. MRS. GREEN:
  1045. They must be scared.
  1046.  
  1047. 225
  1048. 00:12:55,147 --> 00:12:58,348
  1049. - ADAM: They're Rangers.
  1050. - They're boys.
  1051.  
  1052. 226
  1053. 00:12:58,350 --> 00:13:02,153
  1054. <i>Our military is powerful and
  1055. it's prepared.</i>
  1056.  
  1057. 227
  1058. 00:13:02,155 --> 00:13:03,621
  1059. <i>The search is underway
  1060. for those...</i>
  1061.  
  1062. 228
  1063. 00:13:03,623 --> 00:13:05,555
  1064. <i>who are behind these evil acts.</i>
  1065.  
  1066. 229
  1067. 00:13:05,557 --> 00:13:08,293
  1068. <i>I've directed the full
  1069. resources of our intelligence..</i>
  1070.  
  1071. 230
  1072. 00:13:08,295 --> 00:13:11,496
  1073. <i>and law enforcement communities
  1074. to find those responsible...</i>
  1075.  
  1076. 231
  1077. 00:13:11,498 --> 00:13:14,368
  1078. <i>and to bring them to justice.</i>
  1079.  
  1080. 232
  1081. 00:13:18,338 --> 00:13:21,005
  1082. JENNINGS: <i>It's been 33 hours
  1083. since the terrible...</i>
  1084.  
  1085. 233
  1086. 00:13:21,007 --> 00:13:23,408
  1087. <i>and unprecedented attack
  1088. on the United States.</i>
  1089.  
  1090. 234
  1091. 00:13:23,410 --> 00:13:26,443
  1092. <i>There is, as we've said, an
  1093. enormous search and rescue...</i>
  1094.  
  1095. 235
  1096. 00:13:26,445 --> 00:13:31,149
  1097. <i>operation, and enormous and
  1098. intense criminal investigation.</i>
  1099.  
  1100. 236
  1101. 00:13:31,151 --> 00:13:32,616
  1102. <i>And we're just beginning
  1103. to understand...</i>
  1104.  
  1105. 237
  1106. 00:13:32,618 --> 00:13:35,285
  1107. <i>the extents of the catastrophe.</i>
  1108.  
  1109. 238
  1110. 00:13:35,287 --> 00:13:37,188
  1111. OFFICIAL: I feel like I haven't
  1112. slept in a month.
  1113.  
  1114. 239
  1115. 00:13:37,190 --> 00:13:39,122
  1116. It's going to be a bunch
  1117. of zombies running this town.
  1118.  
  1119. 240
  1120. 00:13:39,124 --> 00:13:40,591
  1121. What do you know about
  1122. the preliminary plans...
  1123.  
  1124. 241
  1125. 00:13:40,593 --> 00:13:42,260
  1126. to go after bin Laden?
  1127.  
  1128. 242
  1129. 00:13:42,262 --> 00:13:44,194
  1130. I don't have anything to give
  1131. you on that yet.
  1132.  
  1133. 243
  1134. 00:13:44,196 --> 00:13:46,264
  1135. Ok, well, how long before we're
  1136. on the ground in Afghanistan...
  1137.  
  1138. 244
  1139. 00:13:46,266 --> 00:13:48,131
  1140. and how long do they project
  1141. we'll be there?
  1142.  
  1143. 245
  1144. 00:13:48,133 --> 00:13:51,635
  1145. Look, I'm trying to get answers
  1146. to the same questions you are.
  1147.  
  1148. 246
  1149. 00:13:51,637 --> 00:13:54,739
  1150. What I can say is, most of the
  1151. talk this morning...
  1152.  
  1153. 247
  1154. 00:13:54,741 --> 00:13:57,308
  1155. hasn't been about Afghanistan.
  1156.  
  1157. 248
  1158. 00:13:57,310 --> 00:13:59,113
  1159. Well, what's it been about?
  1160.  
  1161. 249
  1162. 00:14:00,747 --> 00:14:02,447
  1163. Iraq?
  1164.  
  1165. 250
  1166. 00:14:02,449 --> 00:14:04,481
  1167. I got it from a source at State
  1168. who got it from the Pentagon.
  1169.  
  1170. 251
  1171. 00:14:04,483 --> 00:14:07,150
  1172. In connection with the attacks?
  1173.  
  1174. 252
  1175. 00:14:07,152 --> 00:14:09,287
  1176. Crackpot theories from people
  1177. who don't know...
  1178.  
  1179. 253
  1180. 00:14:09,289 --> 00:14:10,587
  1181. what the hell they're talking
  1182. about.
  1183.  
  1184. 254
  1185. 00:14:10,589 --> 00:14:12,189
  1186. It was Rumsfeld.
  1187.  
  1188. 255
  1189. 00:14:12,191 --> 00:14:13,757
  1190. Really?
  1191.  
  1192. 256
  1193. 00:14:13,759 --> 00:14:16,193
  1194. Yeah, apparently, there's a lot
  1195. of people over at Defense...
  1196.  
  1197. 257
  1198. 00:14:16,195 --> 00:14:18,496
  1199. that think this had to be
  1200. State-sponsored.
  1201.  
  1202. 258
  1203. 00:14:18,498 --> 00:14:22,100
  1204. I mean, not just Rumsfeld,
  1205. there's also that smug...
  1206.  
  1207. 259
  1208. 00:14:22,102 --> 00:14:25,202
  1209. son of a bitch at the Defense
  1210. Policy Board...
  1211.  
  1212. 260
  1213. 00:14:25,204 --> 00:14:26,603
  1214. the Prince of Darkness?
  1215.  
  1216. 261
  1217. 00:14:26,605 --> 00:14:28,539
  1218. - Richard Perle.
  1219. - Right. Perle.
  1220.  
  1221. 262
  1222. 00:14:28,541 --> 00:14:30,774
  1223. And that neo-con over at the
  1224. Project...
  1225.  
  1226. 263
  1227. 00:14:30,776 --> 00:14:33,311
  1228. for the New American
  1229. whatever the fuck...
  1230.  
  1231. 264
  1232. 00:14:33,313 --> 00:14:34,645
  1233. New American Century,
  1234. Bill Kristol.
  1235.  
  1236. 265
  1237. 00:14:34,647 --> 00:14:36,481
  1238. That giant butthole,
  1239. Bill Kristol.
  1240.  
  1241. 266
  1242. 00:14:36,483 --> 00:14:40,351
  1243. And he's got to be creaming his
  1244. little jammies over this.
  1245.  
  1246. 267
  1247. 00:14:40,353 --> 00:14:42,186
  1248. Yeah, these think-tank boys...
  1249.  
  1250. 268
  1251. 00:14:42,188 --> 00:14:44,322
  1252. have been trying to push out
  1253. Saddam Hussein since '97.
  1254.  
  1255. 269
  1256. 00:14:44,324 --> 00:14:48,292
  1257. They have this crazy theory that
  1258. if they can just stick...
  1259.  
  1260. 270
  1261. 00:14:48,294 --> 00:14:50,361
  1262. a Western-style of democracy in
  1263. the Middle East...
  1264.  
  1265. 271
  1266. 00:14:50,363 --> 00:14:52,730
  1267. it's going to magically
  1268. proliferate...
  1269.  
  1270. 272
  1271. 00:14:52,732 --> 00:14:54,399
  1272. and wind up protecting Israel.
  1273.  
  1274. 273
  1275. 00:14:54,401 --> 00:14:56,768
  1276. You got to give them credit
  1277. for creative thinking.
  1278.  
  1279. 274
  1280. 00:14:56,770 --> 00:14:59,236
  1281. It's Ivory Tower crap.
  1282.  
  1283. 275
  1284. 00:14:59,238 --> 00:15:02,140
  1285. I mean, in what world do they
  1286. think that Osama bin Laden...
  1287.  
  1288. 276
  1289. 00:15:02,142 --> 00:15:04,775
  1290. and Saddam Hussein hatched
  1291. this thing up together?
  1292.  
  1293. 277
  1294. 00:15:04,777 --> 00:15:06,811
  1295. Let's find out if these
  1296. dickweeds...
  1297.  
  1298. 278
  1299. 00:15:06,813 --> 00:15:09,813
  1300. are serious about Iraq, okay?
  1301.  
  1302. 279
  1303. 00:15:09,815 --> 00:15:11,616
  1304. Look, I'm not saying there's
  1305. a link to Iraq...
  1306.  
  1307. 280
  1308. 00:15:11,618 --> 00:15:13,183
  1309. and neither is my boss.
  1310.  
  1311. 281
  1312. 00:15:13,185 --> 00:15:14,452
  1313. This is just something
  1314. we're hearing.
  1315.  
  1316. 282
  1317. 00:15:14,454 --> 00:15:15,752
  1318. From whom?
  1319.  
  1320. 283
  1321. 00:15:15,754 --> 00:15:18,121
  1322. Who told me or where is it
  1323. coming from?
  1324.  
  1325. 284
  1326. 00:15:18,123 --> 00:15:19,557
  1327. Take your pick.
  1328.  
  1329. 285
  1330. 00:15:19,559 --> 00:15:21,092
  1331. Someone at the Pentagon.
  1332.  
  1333. 286
  1334. 00:15:21,094 --> 00:15:23,093
  1335. In the Vice President's office?
  1336.  
  1337. 287
  1338. 00:15:23,095 --> 00:15:24,428
  1339. It's just theories.
  1340.  
  1341. 288
  1342. 00:15:24,430 --> 00:15:26,430
  1343. Are there any Senators talking
  1344. to anyone...
  1345.  
  1346. 289
  1347. 00:15:26,432 --> 00:15:28,632
  1348. saying anything different?
  1349.  
  1350. 290
  1351. 00:15:28,634 --> 00:15:30,268
  1352. I know Powell's objected...
  1353.  
  1354. 291
  1355. 00:15:30,270 --> 00:15:33,737
  1356. to going into anywhere other
  1357. than Afghanistan.
  1358.  
  1359. 292
  1360. 00:15:33,739 --> 00:15:37,243
  1361. <i>(DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING)</i>
  1362.  
  1363. 293
  1364. 00:16:05,338 --> 00:16:06,404
  1365. Go away.
  1366.  
  1367. 294
  1368. 00:16:06,406 --> 00:16:07,737
  1369. One question and I'm gone.
  1370.  
  1371. 295
  1372. 00:16:07,739 --> 00:16:09,473
  1373. I'm not talking to you
  1374. on the record.
  1375.  
  1376. 296
  1377. 00:16:09,475 --> 00:16:13,046
  1378. Anonymous source, intelligence
  1379. community.
  1380.  
  1381. 297
  1382. 00:16:14,214 --> 00:16:15,712
  1383. You can't use my name.
  1384.  
  1385. 298
  1386. 00:16:15,714 --> 00:16:18,149
  1387. Never have, never will.
  1388.  
  1389. 299
  1390. 00:16:18,151 --> 00:16:19,116
  1391. Or my agency.
  1392.  
  1393. 300
  1394. 00:16:19,118 --> 00:16:21,055
  1395. Pinky swear.
  1396.  
  1397. 301
  1398. 00:16:23,156 --> 00:16:25,890
  1399. One question.
  1400.  
  1401. 302
  1402. 00:16:25,892 --> 00:16:28,796
  1403. Are you looking into an Iraqi
  1404. connection?
  1405.  
  1406. 303
  1407. 00:16:30,796 --> 00:16:33,530
  1408. Who's the you in that question?
  1409.  
  1410. 304
  1411. 00:16:33,532 --> 00:16:35,298
  1412. Are we in the United States?
  1413.  
  1414. 305
  1415. 00:16:35,300 --> 00:16:36,833
  1416. There are some people.
  1417.  
  1418. 306
  1419. 00:16:36,835 --> 00:16:38,468
  1420. Are we in my agency?
  1421.  
  1422. 307
  1423. 00:16:38,470 --> 00:16:40,371
  1424. Not that I'm aware of.
  1425.  
  1426. 308
  1427. 00:16:40,373 --> 00:16:42,874
  1428. Am I, personally?
  1429.  
  1430. 309
  1431. 00:16:42,876 --> 00:16:45,342
  1432. No way.
  1433.  
  1434. 310
  1435. 00:16:45,344 --> 00:16:47,377
  1436. Okay, the second part
  1437. to the question.
  1438.  
  1439. 311
  1440. 00:16:47,379 --> 00:16:48,513
  1441. No.
  1442.  
  1443. 312
  1444. 00:16:48,515 --> 00:16:50,184
  1445. Thank you.
  1446.  
  1447. 313
  1448. 00:16:52,484 --> 00:16:54,751
  1449. So, no one you work with at the
  1450. Library of Congress has ever...
  1451.  
  1452. 314
  1453. 00:16:54,753 --> 00:16:56,821
  1454. found a link between Saddam
  1455. Hussein and Al Qaeda?
  1456.  
  1457. 315
  1458. 00:16:56,823 --> 00:16:59,524
  1459. No one I work with
  1460. would expect to find a link.
  1461.  
  1462. 316
  1463. 00:16:59,526 --> 00:17:01,324
  1464. So, as far as you know...
  1465.  
  1466. 317
  1467. 00:17:01,326 --> 00:17:02,793
  1468. there's nothing substantial to
  1469. tie Iraq to bin Laden?
  1470.  
  1471. 318
  1472. 00:17:02,795 --> 00:17:04,461
  1473. There's nothing even
  1474. circumstantial.
  1475.  
  1476. 319
  1477. 00:17:04,463 --> 00:17:06,496
  1478. To lump together a secular
  1479. leader like Saddam...
  1480.  
  1481. 320
  1482. 00:17:06,498 --> 00:17:09,499
  1483. with an Islamic extremist
  1484. like bin Laden is simply...
  1485.  
  1486. 321
  1487. 00:17:09,501 --> 00:17:11,637
  1488. to have no understanding
  1489. of the Muslim world.
  1490.  
  1491. 322
  1492. 00:17:15,941 --> 00:17:17,874
  1493. It's a bit timid.
  1494.  
  1495. 323
  1496. 00:17:17,876 --> 00:17:19,944
  1497. No one's actually come out and
  1498. said anything publicly yet.
  1499.  
  1500. 324
  1501. 00:17:19,946 --> 00:17:21,946
  1502. Maybe it's just backroom
  1503. speculation.
  1504.  
  1505. 325
  1506. 00:17:21,948 --> 00:17:23,480
  1507. Pretty dangerous speculation.
  1508.  
  1509. 326
  1510. 00:17:23,482 --> 00:17:25,483
  1511. Can't we hit it harder than
  1512. this?
  1513.  
  1514. 327
  1515. 00:17:25,485 --> 00:17:27,418
  1516. The attacks were just 10 days
  1517. ago.
  1518.  
  1519. 328
  1520. 00:17:27,420 --> 00:17:28,553
  1521. Everyone's trying to play
  1522. catch-up.
  1523.  
  1524. 329
  1525. 00:17:28,555 --> 00:17:30,487
  1526. Got to press our reliables.
  1527.  
  1528. 330
  1529. 00:17:30,489 --> 00:17:32,489
  1530. I'll reach out to The Italian
  1531. Lady.
  1532.  
  1533. 331
  1534. 00:17:32,491 --> 00:17:34,492
  1535. You think you can get Loose
  1536. Nukes to go on the record?
  1537.  
  1538. 332
  1539. 00:17:34,494 --> 00:17:36,761
  1540. I'm lucky to get her on deep
  1541. background.
  1542.  
  1543. 333
  1544. 00:17:36,763 --> 00:17:40,497
  1545. Well, double down on the Charm
  1546. Offensive.
  1547.  
  1548. 334
  1549. 00:17:40,499 --> 00:17:43,266
  1550. <i>Buongiorno,</i> this is Warren
  1551. Strobel.
  1552.  
  1553. 335
  1554. 00:17:43,268 --> 00:17:46,536
  1555. I was looking to get your advice
  1556. on a critical scheduling matter.
  1557.  
  1558. 336
  1559. 00:17:46,538 --> 00:17:49,607
  1560. If you could contact me at your
  1561. earliest possible convenience...
  1562.  
  1563. 337
  1564. 00:17:49,609 --> 00:17:52,576
  1565. I would greatly appreciate it.
  1566. Thank you.
  1567.  
  1568. 338
  1569. 00:17:52,578 --> 00:17:53,710
  1570. LOOSE NUKES: <i>Hello.</i>
  1571.  
  1572. 339
  1573. 00:17:53,712 --> 00:17:55,513
  1574. Yeah, hi, it's Jonathan.
  1575.  
  1576. 340
  1577. 00:17:55,515 --> 00:17:56,980
  1578. LOOSE NUKES: <i>I don't have
  1579. anything for you.</i>
  1580.  
  1581. 341
  1582. 00:17:56,982 --> 00:18:00,418
  1583. No, I know, I know, but I'm
  1584. doing a story...
  1585.  
  1586. 342
  1587. 00:18:00,420 --> 00:18:02,786
  1588. on the administration's seeming
  1589. interest in Iraq.
  1590.  
  1591. 343
  1592. 00:18:02,788 --> 00:18:04,788
  1593. LOOSE NUKES: <i>Jonathan, we're
  1594. not going to talk about this.</i>
  1595.  
  1596. 344
  1597. 00:18:04,790 --> 00:18:07,691
  1598. No, I know, I know I'm not
  1599. talking about this...
  1600.  
  1601. 345
  1602. 00:18:07,693 --> 00:18:10,995
  1603. because it's off the record, but
  1604. can you give me some indication?
  1605.  
  1606. 346
  1607. 00:18:10,997 --> 00:18:12,365
  1608. LOOSE NUKES: <i>Bye, Jonathan.</i>
  1609.  
  1610. 347
  1611. 00:18:14,366 --> 00:18:15,699
  1612. What'd she say?
  1613.  
  1614. 348
  1615. 00:18:15,701 --> 00:18:18,236
  1616. She sends her love.
  1617.  
  1618. 349
  1619. 00:18:18,238 --> 00:18:19,637
  1620. ANNOUNCER:
  1621. <i>Across the nation...</i>
  1622.  
  1623. 350
  1624. 00:18:19,639 --> 00:18:21,572
  1625. <i>flags have been flying off
  1626. the shelves.</i>
  1627.  
  1628. 351
  1629. 00:18:21,574 --> 00:18:25,476
  1630. <i>A wave of patriotism has been
  1631. spreading across America.</i>
  1632.  
  1633. 352
  1634. 00:18:25,478 --> 00:18:29,280
  1635. <i>At times like this,
  1636. it's what we do in America.</i>
  1637.  
  1638. 353
  1639. 00:18:29,282 --> 00:18:32,682
  1640. <i>We the People pull together.</i>
  1641.  
  1642. 354
  1643. 00:18:32,684 --> 00:18:34,685
  1644. They had a discussion in school
  1645. today...
  1646.  
  1647. 355
  1648. 00:18:34,687 --> 00:18:37,420
  1649. about why America is so great,
  1650. right?
  1651.  
  1652. 356
  1653. 00:18:37,422 --> 00:18:38,889
  1654. Yeah, and what'd you say?
  1655.  
  1656. 357
  1657. 00:18:38,891 --> 00:18:40,490
  1658. It's a free country.
  1659.  
  1660. 358
  1661. 00:18:40,492 --> 00:18:41,926
  1662. That's a great answer.
  1663.  
  1664. 359
  1665. 00:18:41,928 --> 00:18:43,526
  1666. That's Mama's boy.
  1667.  
  1668. 360
  1669. 00:18:43,528 --> 00:18:45,295
  1670. May I be done now?
  1671.  
  1672. 361
  1673. 00:18:45,297 --> 00:18:47,297
  1674. Not until I get a big hug.
  1675.  
  1676. 362
  1677. 00:18:47,299 --> 00:18:50,400
  1678. Okay, after your mom gets a hug.
  1679.  
  1680. 363
  1681. 00:18:50,402 --> 00:18:51,971
  1682. Oh, whoa!
  1683.  
  1684. 364
  1685. 00:18:54,673 --> 00:18:56,306
  1686. Proud of you, munchie.
  1687.  
  1688. 365
  1689. 00:18:56,308 --> 00:18:58,211
  1690. Love you.
  1691.  
  1692. 366
  1693. 00:19:00,446 --> 00:19:04,047
  1694. They're really pushing this
  1695. nationalism thing at school.
  1696.  
  1697. 367
  1698. 00:19:04,049 --> 00:19:05,815
  1699. What do you expect?
  1700.  
  1701. 368
  1702. 00:19:05,817 --> 00:19:07,618
  1703. Of course, there's
  1704. going to be patriotism now.
  1705.  
  1706. 369
  1707. 00:19:07,620 --> 00:19:11,421
  1708. Oh, you want to call it
  1709. patriotism?
  1710.  
  1711. 370
  1712. 00:19:11,423 --> 00:19:12,922
  1713. Fine.
  1714.  
  1715. 371
  1716. 00:19:12,924 --> 00:19:14,691
  1717. It smells a lot like
  1718. nationalism to me.
  1719.  
  1720. 372
  1721. 00:19:14,693 --> 00:19:19,663
  1722. That's how it started in
  1723. Yugoslavia before the war.
  1724.  
  1725. 373
  1726. 00:19:19,665 --> 00:19:21,634
  1727. Tore my country apart.
  1728.  
  1729. 374
  1730. 00:19:44,957 --> 00:19:47,891
  1731. You want some help?
  1732.  
  1733. 375
  1734. 00:19:47,893 --> 00:19:50,529
  1735. No, I'm okay, thank you.
  1736.  
  1737. 376
  1738. 00:19:52,664 --> 00:19:54,631
  1739. Okay, have a good night.
  1740.  
  1741. 377
  1742. 00:19:54,633 --> 00:19:55,635
  1743. Good night.
  1744.  
  1745. 378
  1746. 00:20:03,543 --> 00:20:05,909
  1747. How real is the Iraqi
  1748. conversation?
  1749.  
  1750. 379
  1751. 00:20:05,911 --> 00:20:07,911
  1752. There's an argument
  1753. taking place.
  1754.  
  1755. 380
  1756. 00:20:07,913 --> 00:20:10,848
  1757. Yeah? Who's winning it?
  1758.  
  1759. 381
  1760. 00:20:10,850 --> 00:20:12,615
  1761. I couldn't say.
  1762.  
  1763. 382
  1764. 00:20:12,617 --> 00:20:16,853
  1765. Look, my boss is gonna send me
  1766. to Afghanistan, and all I want..
  1767.  
  1768. 383
  1769. 00:20:16,855 --> 00:20:20,390
  1770. to know is should he be buying
  1771. a roundtrip ticket...
  1772.  
  1773. 384
  1774. 00:20:20,392 --> 00:20:24,597
  1775. or is Afghanistan just a
  1776. layover on the way to Baghdad?
  1777.  
  1778. 385
  1779. 00:20:28,700 --> 00:20:31,468
  1780. I can't tell you anything.
  1781.  
  1782. 386
  1783. 00:20:31,470 --> 00:20:33,504
  1784. MYLROIE: <i>I believe major acts
  1785. of terrorism...</i>
  1786.  
  1787. 387
  1788. 00:20:33,506 --> 00:20:36,607
  1789. <i>against the U.S. are
  1790. state-sponsored.</i>
  1791.  
  1792. 388
  1793. 00:20:36,609 --> 00:20:39,810
  1794. <i>So, we asked ourselves,
  1795. "Who could have been behind...</i>
  1796.  
  1797. 389
  1798. 00:20:39,812 --> 00:20:42,746
  1799. <i>the most massive terrorist
  1800. assault in human history...</i>
  1801.  
  1802. 390
  1803. 00:20:42,748 --> 00:20:44,648
  1804. <i>"which state?"</i>
  1805.  
  1806. 391
  1807. 00:20:44,650 --> 00:20:49,853
  1808. <i>I think Iraq is the state that
  1809. most immediately comes to mind.</i>
  1810.  
  1811. 392
  1812. 00:20:49,855 --> 00:20:52,656
  1813. - <i>This is an idea which in...</i>
  1814. - <i>(PHONE RINGING)</i>
  1815.  
  1816. 393
  1817. 00:20:52,658 --> 00:20:54,725
  1818. <i>is gaining increased
  1819. credibility.</i>
  1820.  
  1821. 394
  1822. 00:20:54,727 --> 00:20:56,627
  1823. Knight Ridder, it's Strobel.
  1824.  
  1825. 395
  1826. 00:20:56,629 --> 00:20:58,094
  1827. THE ITALIAN LADY: <i>Jim Woolsey
  1828. is going to Europe...</i>
  1829.  
  1830. 396
  1831. 00:20:58,096 --> 00:20:59,830
  1832. <i>to try to find a link
  1833. between Saddam...</i>
  1834.  
  1835. 397
  1836. 00:20:59,832 --> 00:21:02,602
  1837. <i>and the 1993 World Trade Center
  1838. bombing.</i>
  1839.  
  1840. 398
  1841. 00:21:03,769 --> 00:21:05,636
  1842. Is he freelancing?
  1843.  
  1844. 399
  1845. 00:21:05,638 --> 00:21:07,772
  1846. THE ITALIAN LADY: <i>He was sent
  1847. on an official government jet.</i>
  1848.  
  1849. 400
  1850. 00:21:07,774 --> 00:21:10,006
  1851. Jesus, who sent him?
  1852.  
  1853. 401
  1854. 00:21:10,008 --> 00:21:12,709
  1855. THE ITALIAN LADY:
  1856. <i>The deputy defense secretary.</i>
  1857.  
  1858. 402
  1859. 00:21:12,711 --> 00:21:14,911
  1860. Can you meet for coffee?
  1861.  
  1862. 403
  1863. 00:21:14,913 --> 00:21:16,450
  1864. THE ITALIAN LADY:
  1865. <i>I'll be in touch.</i>
  1866.  
  1867. 404
  1868. 00:21:17,883 --> 00:21:19,883
  1869. Hi, this is Warren
  1870. Strobel with Knight Ridder.
  1871.  
  1872. 405
  1873. 00:21:19,885 --> 00:21:21,619
  1874. I'm working on a story...
  1875.  
  1876. 406
  1877. 00:21:21,621 --> 00:21:23,187
  1878. about former CIA director James
  1879. Woolsey traveling to Europe.
  1880.  
  1881. 407
  1882. 00:21:23,189 --> 00:21:25,188
  1883. Do you know anything about that?
  1884.  
  1885. 408
  1886. 00:21:25,190 --> 00:21:28,191
  1887. DIPLOMAT: <i>I didn't have
  1888. anything to do with that.</i>
  1889.  
  1890. 409
  1891. 00:21:28,193 --> 00:21:30,194
  1892. But you're aware that such
  1893. a trip has taken place?
  1894.  
  1895. 410
  1896. 00:21:30,196 --> 00:21:33,730
  1897. DIPLOMAT: <i>I can't be your only
  1898. source on this.</i>
  1899.  
  1900. 411
  1901. 00:21:33,732 --> 00:21:35,901
  1902. All right, stay in touch.
  1903.  
  1904. 412
  1905. 00:21:37,702 --> 00:21:40,470
  1906. Hey, John.
  1907.  
  1908. 413
  1909. 00:21:40,472 --> 00:21:42,605
  1910. Woolsey was sent to Europe
  1911. to look for evidence...
  1912.  
  1913. 414
  1914. 00:21:42,607 --> 00:21:45,543
  1915. linking Saddam to the World
  1916. Trade Center bombing in '93.
  1917.  
  1918. 415
  1919. 00:21:45,545 --> 00:21:48,711
  1920. Wouldn't be a fool's errand if
  1921. they didn't send a fool.
  1922.  
  1923. 416
  1924. 00:21:48,713 --> 00:21:50,547
  1925. This came from The Italian Lady?
  1926.  
  1927. 417
  1928. 00:21:50,549 --> 00:21:51,748
  1929. And a diplomat who can
  1930. confirm...
  1931.  
  1932. 418
  1933. 00:21:51,750 --> 00:21:53,082
  1934. the trip was arranged by
  1935. Wolfowitz.
  1936.  
  1937. 419
  1938. 00:21:53,084 --> 00:21:54,752
  1939. What the hell is going on
  1940. over at Defense?
  1941.  
  1942. 420
  1943. 00:21:54,754 --> 00:21:56,786
  1944. Question is, are they trying to
  1945. figure out...
  1946.  
  1947. 421
  1948. 00:21:56,788 --> 00:21:58,555
  1949. if there's any truth to their
  1950. theory...
  1951.  
  1952. 422
  1953. 00:21:58,557 --> 00:22:01,191
  1954. or are they already convinced
  1955. their theory is true?
  1956.  
  1957. 423
  1958. 00:22:01,193 --> 00:22:02,927
  1959. You're sure about
  1960. this Woolsey trip?
  1961.  
  1962. 424
  1963. 00:22:02,929 --> 00:22:04,928
  1964. - Positive.
  1965. - You have a third source?
  1966.  
  1967. 425
  1968. 00:22:04,930 --> 00:22:06,030
  1969. - Yeah.
  1970. - Who?
  1971.  
  1972. 426
  1973. 00:22:06,032 --> 00:22:07,834
  1974. Jim Woolsey.
  1975.  
  1976. 427
  1977. 00:22:20,112 --> 00:22:23,917
  1978. Hey, it's Walcott,
  1979. you up for a field trip?
  1980.  
  1981. 428
  1982. 00:22:26,786 --> 00:22:28,752
  1983. I figured you'd be calling...
  1984.  
  1985. 429
  1986. 00:22:28,754 --> 00:22:30,557
  1987. I just didn't think
  1988. it would be this soon.
  1989.  
  1990. 430
  1991. 00:22:33,659 --> 00:22:35,758
  1992. How real is the chatter
  1993. about Iraq?
  1994.  
  1995. 431
  1996. 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,628
  1997. Very.
  1998.  
  1999. 432
  2000. 00:22:37,630 --> 00:22:41,532
  2001. And it's diverting our attention
  2002. from the people who attacked us.
  2003.  
  2004. 433
  2005. 00:22:41,534 --> 00:22:44,171
  2006. How soon before Iraq becomes
  2007. the focus?
  2008.  
  2009. 434
  2010. 00:22:45,904 --> 00:22:48,639
  2011. We need to blow something up.
  2012.  
  2013. 435
  2014. 00:22:48,641 --> 00:22:50,674
  2015. Not enough targets in
  2016. Afghanistan.
  2017.  
  2018. 436
  2019. 00:22:50,676 --> 00:22:51,809
  2020. What about bin Laden?
  2021.  
  2022. 437
  2023. 00:22:51,811 --> 00:22:53,276
  2024. You take out bin Laden...
  2025.  
  2026. 438
  2027. 00:22:53,278 --> 00:22:55,714
  2028. interest in the war goes right
  2029. down the shitter.
  2030.  
  2031. 439
  2032. 00:22:57,650 --> 00:23:00,851
  2033. REPORTER: <i>A joint offensive in
  2034. its sixth day in Tora Bora...</i>
  2035.  
  2036. 440
  2037. 00:23:00,853 --> 00:23:02,820
  2038. <i>bin Laden's suspected
  2039. hideout...</i>
  2040.  
  2041. 441
  2042. 00:23:02,822 --> 00:23:05,589
  2043. <i>but still no signs of the
  2044. world's most wanted man.</i>
  2045.  
  2046. 442
  2047. 00:23:05,591 --> 00:23:09,159
  2048. <i>U.S. B-52s pounding Al Qaeda
  2049. positions from the air...</i>
  2050.  
  2051. 443
  2052. 00:23:09,161 --> 00:23:10,894
  2053. <i>while anti-Taliban tanks...</i>
  2054.  
  2055. 444
  2056. 00:23:10,896 --> 00:23:12,696
  2057. <i>and troops meet strong
  2058. resistance...</i>
  2059.  
  2060. 445
  2061. 00:23:12,698 --> 00:23:15,131
  2062. <i>cave to cave,
  2063. from Al Qaeda fighters.</i>
  2064.  
  2065. 446
  2066. 00:23:15,133 --> 00:23:17,001
  2067. <i>With yet more conflicting
  2068. reports...</i>
  2069.  
  2070. 447
  2071. 00:23:17,003 --> 00:23:19,005
  2072. <i>on bin Laden's whereabouts.</i>
  2073.  
  2074. 448
  2075. 00:23:20,940 --> 00:23:22,672
  2076. What you got there...
  2077.  
  2078. 449
  2079. 00:23:22,674 --> 00:23:24,675
  2080. is that your State of the
  2081. Union piece for tomorrow?
  2082.  
  2083. 450
  2084. 00:23:24,677 --> 00:23:26,709
  2085. - Yup.
  2086. - You got a lunch today?
  2087.  
  2088. 451
  2089. 00:23:26,711 --> 00:23:28,879
  2090. Not with you.
  2091.  
  2092. 452
  2093. 00:23:28,881 --> 00:23:30,980
  2094. I got a one-on-one with Looney
  2095. Tunes over at State.
  2096.  
  2097. 453
  2098. 00:23:30,982 --> 00:23:32,582
  2099. There's a dry hole.
  2100.  
  2101. 454
  2102. 00:23:32,584 --> 00:23:34,284
  2103. Yeah, well, I figured if I just
  2104. let him ramble on...
  2105.  
  2106. 455
  2107. 00:23:34,286 --> 00:23:36,320
  2108. he'll accidentally stumble
  2109. into something newsworthy.
  2110.  
  2111. 456
  2112. 00:23:36,322 --> 00:23:37,755
  2113. Yeah, well, give my best.
  2114.  
  2115. 457
  2116. 00:23:37,757 --> 00:23:39,790
  2117. I will. Hot off the presses,
  2118. Beryl.
  2119.  
  2120. 458
  2121. 00:23:39,792 --> 00:23:41,225
  2122. Did you use punctuation
  2123. this time?
  2124.  
  2125. 459
  2126. 00:23:41,227 --> 00:23:43,159
  2127. I even threw in a few semicolons
  2128. just for you.
  2129.  
  2130. 460
  2131. 00:23:43,161 --> 00:23:46,764
  2132. I bet you're the pride of the
  2133. University of Missouri.
  2134.  
  2135. 461
  2136. 00:23:46,766 --> 00:23:50,801
  2137. <i>Terrorists who once occupied
  2138. Afghanistan...</i>
  2139.  
  2140. 462
  2141. 00:23:50,803 --> 00:23:53,672
  2142. <i>now occupy cells
  2143. at Guantanamo Bay.</i>
  2144.  
  2145. 463
  2146. 00:23:56,909 --> 00:23:59,976
  2147. <i>And terrorist leaders who urged
  2148. followers to sacrifice...</i>
  2149.  
  2150. 464
  2151. 00:23:59,978 --> 00:24:03,280
  2152. <i>their lives are running'
  2153. for their own.</i>
  2154.  
  2155. 465
  2156. 00:24:03,282 --> 00:24:07,851
  2157. Now, the administration's top
  2158. priority apart from our own...
  2159.  
  2160. 466
  2161. 00:24:07,853 --> 00:24:11,788
  2162. security is to ensure
  2163. freedom for other countries...
  2164.  
  2165. 467
  2166. 00:24:11,790 --> 00:24:16,060
  2167. looking to embrace democracy
  2168. as a way of life.
  2169.  
  2170. 468
  2171. 00:24:16,062 --> 00:24:18,861
  2172. Now, we... excuse me... we
  2173. understand that we can't...
  2174.  
  2175. 469
  2176. 00:24:18,863 --> 00:24:20,863
  2177. be the policemen to the world...
  2178.  
  2179. 470
  2180. 00:24:20,865 --> 00:24:23,266
  2181. but we feel we
  2182. have a responsibility to...
  2183.  
  2184. 471
  2185. 00:24:23,268 --> 00:24:24,668
  2186. Yeah, John Walcott.
  2187.  
  2188. 472
  2189. 00:24:24,670 --> 00:24:26,102
  2190. DIXIE: <i>John!</i>
  2191.  
  2192. 473
  2193. 00:24:26,104 --> 00:24:27,236
  2194. Dixie?
  2195.  
  2196. 474
  2197. 00:24:27,238 --> 00:24:28,706
  2198. DIXIE: <i>John, can you hear me?</i>
  2199.  
  2200. 475
  2201. 00:24:28,708 --> 00:24:30,239
  2202. Yeah, yeah, I can hear you.
  2203.  
  2204. 476
  2205. 00:24:30,241 --> 00:24:32,610
  2206. I got a call from one of
  2207. our boys downrange today...
  2208.  
  2209. 477
  2210. 00:24:32,612 --> 00:24:34,178
  2211. asking me what the fuck's
  2212. going on.
  2213.  
  2214. 478
  2215. 00:24:34,180 --> 00:24:35,979
  2216. Are you still in Afghanistan?
  2217.  
  2218. 479
  2219. 00:24:35,981 --> 00:24:37,614
  2220. Yeah, I'm in Afghanistan...
  2221.  
  2222. 480
  2223. 00:24:37,616 --> 00:24:39,115
  2224. but nobody knows what the
  2225. mission is anymore.
  2226.  
  2227. 481
  2228. 00:24:39,117 --> 00:24:41,051
  2229. How do you bomb a country back
  2230. into the Stone Age...
  2231.  
  2232. 482
  2233. 00:24:41,053 --> 00:24:43,219
  2234. that's already in the middle
  2235. of the goddamn Stone Age?
  2236.  
  2237. 483
  2238. 00:24:43,221 --> 00:24:46,357
  2239. <i>Our second goal is to prevent
  2240. regimes that sponsor terror...</i>
  2241.  
  2242. 484
  2243. 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,727
  2244. <i>from threatening America,
  2245. or our friends and allies...</i>
  2246.  
  2247. 485
  2248. 00:24:50,729 --> 00:24:52,630
  2249. <i>with weapons of mass
  2250. destruction.</i>
  2251.  
  2252. 486
  2253. 00:24:52,632 --> 00:24:56,667
  2254. We believe that Afghanistan
  2255. is ripe for freedom.
  2256.  
  2257. 487
  2258. 00:24:56,669 --> 00:25:00,070
  2259. Now, this is a country that has
  2260. been struggling to free...
  2261.  
  2262. 488
  2263. 00:25:00,072 --> 00:25:03,273
  2264. <i>itself from the repressive grip
  2265. of the Taliban for years.</i>
  2266.  
  2267. 489
  2268. 00:25:03,275 --> 00:25:06,643
  2269. We've got bin Laden on the run
  2270. and they're diverting my assets.
  2271.  
  2272. 490
  2273. 00:25:06,645 --> 00:25:08,411
  2274. We may never get him in our
  2275. crosshairs again.
  2276.  
  2277. 491
  2278. 00:25:08,413 --> 00:25:11,982
  2279. Whoa, whoa, wait, they're
  2280. diverting your assets to where?
  2281.  
  2282. 492
  2283. 00:25:11,984 --> 00:25:14,284
  2284. <i>Some of these regimes have been
  2285. pretty quiet since...</i>
  2286.  
  2287. 493
  2288. 00:25:14,286 --> 00:25:18,121
  2289. <i>September the 11th, but we know
  2290. their true nature.</i>
  2291.  
  2292. 494
  2293. 00:25:18,123 --> 00:25:21,958
  2294. You know, it's a country in
  2295. desperate need of the kind...
  2296.  
  2297. 495
  2298. 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,961
  2299. of stability that comes with the
  2300. rule of law.
  2301.  
  2302. 496
  2303. 00:25:24,963 --> 00:25:28,966
  2304. <i>North Korea, Iran, Iraq...
  2305. states like these...</i>
  2306.  
  2307. 497
  2308. 00:25:28,968 --> 00:25:33,871
  2309. <i>and their terrorist allies
  2310. constitute an axis of evil...</i>
  2311.  
  2312. 498
  2313. 00:25:33,873 --> 00:25:35,938
  2314. <i>arming to threaten the
  2315. peace of the world.</i>
  2316.  
  2317. 499
  2318. 00:25:35,940 --> 00:25:37,675
  2319. You'll have to excuse me...
  2320.  
  2321. 500
  2322. 00:25:37,677 --> 00:25:40,244
  2323. Warren, but I have to prepare
  2324. a briefing for Secretary Powell.
  2325.  
  2326. 501
  2327. 00:25:40,246 --> 00:25:41,245
  2328. Sure.
  2329.  
  2330. 502
  2331. 00:25:41,247 --> 00:25:42,412
  2332. Anything else you need from me?
  2333.  
  2334. 503
  2335. 00:25:42,414 --> 00:25:44,180
  2336. No, no, thank you.
  2337.  
  2338. 504
  2339. 00:25:44,182 --> 00:25:45,983
  2340. I think you've given me
  2341. more than enough to chew on.
  2342.  
  2343. 505
  2344. 00:25:45,985 --> 00:25:47,316
  2345. Excellent.
  2346.  
  2347. 506
  2348. 00:25:47,318 --> 00:25:48,951
  2349. And you feel confident that
  2350. Afghanistan...
  2351.  
  2352. 507
  2353. 00:25:48,953 --> 00:25:50,286
  2354. will accept a Western-style
  2355. democracy?
  2356.  
  2357. 508
  2358. 00:25:50,288 --> 00:25:51,788
  2359. Oh, absolutely.
  2360.  
  2361. 509
  2362. 00:25:51,790 --> 00:25:54,291
  2363. Just as confident as
  2364. we are about Iraq.
  2365.  
  2366. 510
  2367. 00:25:54,293 --> 00:25:58,062
  2368. Sounds like the debate on Iraq
  2369. is getting serious.
  2370.  
  2371. 511
  2372. 00:25:58,064 --> 00:26:00,863
  2373. Oh, no, no, no, that debate
  2374. is over.
  2375.  
  2376. 512
  2377. 00:26:00,865 --> 00:26:04,200
  2378. Saddam's got to go,
  2379. the only question is how.
  2380.  
  2381. 513
  2382. 00:26:04,202 --> 00:26:05,369
  2383. Good talking to you, Warren.
  2384.  
  2385. 514
  2386. 00:26:05,371 --> 00:26:07,273
  2387. Yeah, you, too, sir.
  2388.  
  2389. 515
  2390. 00:26:09,441 --> 00:26:11,207
  2391. The president
  2392. is going to invade Iraq.
  2393.  
  2394. 516
  2395. 00:26:11,209 --> 00:26:12,942
  2396. WALCOTT:
  2397. <i>You got this from Looney Tunes?</i>
  2398.  
  2399. 517
  2400. 00:26:12,944 --> 00:26:15,044
  2401. Yeah, and confirmed by a
  2402. diplomat who says he met...
  2403.  
  2404. 518
  2405. 00:26:15,046 --> 00:26:18,148
  2406. with Bush, and a foreign leader
  2407. recently who came away with...
  2408.  
  2409. 519
  2410. 00:26:18,150 --> 00:26:21,485
  2411. "The feeling that a decision has
  2412. been made to strike Iraq."
  2413.  
  2414. 520
  2415. 00:26:21,487 --> 00:26:23,786
  2416. Do you think we can get enough
  2417. to run the story?
  2418.  
  2419. 521
  2420. 00:26:23,788 --> 00:26:25,924
  2421. Unfortunately, I do.
  2422.  
  2423. 522
  2424. 00:26:38,804 --> 00:26:40,403
  2425. So much for the ceasefire.
  2426.  
  2427. 523
  2428. 00:26:40,405 --> 00:26:42,206
  2429. Yeah, well, really nice of us...
  2430.  
  2431. 524
  2432. 00:26:42,208 --> 00:26:44,844
  2433. to temporarily stop shooting
  2434. at them, though.
  2435.  
  2436. 525
  2437. 00:26:56,255 --> 00:26:59,022
  2438. ♪ I've been bound up
  2439. and wound up ♪
  2440.  
  2441. 526
  2442. 00:26:59,024 --> 00:27:01,190
  2443. ♪ Could barely get a sound up ♪
  2444.  
  2445. 527
  2446. 00:27:01,192 --> 00:27:02,993
  2447. ♪ Been cheated mistreated ♪
  2448.  
  2449. 528
  2450. 00:27:02,995 --> 00:27:05,763
  2451. ♪ Don't even want to
  2452. think of it ♪
  2453.  
  2454. 529
  2455. 00:27:05,765 --> 00:27:07,765
  2456. What are you up to, Smucker?
  2457.  
  2458. 530
  2459. 00:27:07,767 --> 00:27:11,001
  2460. You know, I tried to chat
  2461. with your translator today.
  2462.  
  2463. 531
  2464. 00:27:11,003 --> 00:27:12,535
  2465. Yeah, how'd that go?
  2466.  
  2467. 532
  2468. 00:27:12,537 --> 00:27:15,272
  2469. Well, for a guy who gets paid
  2470. to talk for a living...
  2471.  
  2472. 533
  2473. 00:27:15,274 --> 00:27:17,975
  2474. he was unusually quiet.
  2475.  
  2476. 534
  2477. 00:27:17,977 --> 00:27:20,310
  2478. He only talks to me.
  2479.  
  2480. 535
  2481. 00:27:20,312 --> 00:27:24,413
  2482. Really? And what'd he tell you?
  2483.  
  2484. 536
  2485. 00:27:24,415 --> 00:27:27,383
  2486. Dollar, I'll let you read
  2487. all about it.
  2488.  
  2489. 537
  2490. 00:27:27,385 --> 00:27:31,455
  2491. Let me see it.
  2492.  
  2493. 538
  2494. 00:27:31,457 --> 00:27:35,559
  2495. bin Laden's gone, isn't he?
  2496.  
  2497. 539
  2498. 00:27:35,561 --> 00:27:39,095
  2499. They missed him, didn't they?
  2500.  
  2501. 540
  2502. 00:27:39,097 --> 00:27:43,368
  2503. He was here and they fucking
  2504. missed him!
  2505.  
  2506. 541
  2507. 00:27:45,403 --> 00:27:47,236
  2508. REPORTER: <i>A senior U.S.
  2509. military official...</i>
  2510.  
  2511. 542
  2512. 00:27:47,238 --> 00:27:49,473
  2513. <i>tells NBC News "Despite the
  2514. crushing defeat...</i>
  2515.  
  2516. 543
  2517. 00:27:49,475 --> 00:27:51,408
  2518. <i>"of Al Qaeda forces
  2519. at Tora Bora...</i>
  2520.  
  2521. 544
  2522. 00:27:51,410 --> 00:27:54,410
  2523. <i>"it's believed now that Osama
  2524. bin Laden has slipped...</i>
  2525.  
  2526. 545
  2527. 00:27:54,412 --> 00:27:56,947
  2528. <i>"across the border into
  2529. Pakistan, seeking refuge...</i>
  2530.  
  2531. 546
  2532. 00:27:56,949 --> 00:27:58,515
  2533. <i>"in a lawless no man's land...</i>
  2534.  
  2535. 547
  2536. 00:27:58,517 --> 00:28:01,351
  2537. <i>"ruled by renegade tribal
  2538. warlords."</i>
  2539.  
  2540. 548
  2541. 00:28:01,353 --> 00:28:03,253
  2542. Oh, it's official...
  2543.  
  2544. 549
  2545. 00:28:03,255 --> 00:28:06,089
  2546. this is the saddest event
  2547. I've ever attended.
  2548.  
  2549. 550
  2550. 00:28:06,091 --> 00:28:08,057
  2551. I'm going back to my apartment,
  2552. drink a bottle of wine...
  2553.  
  2554. 551
  2555. 00:28:08,059 --> 00:28:09,325
  2556. and put my head in the oven.
  2557.  
  2558. 552
  2559. 00:28:09,327 --> 00:28:11,128
  2560. Okay, but before you do that...
  2561.  
  2562. 553
  2563. 00:28:11,130 --> 00:28:14,096
  2564. I really want you to meet the
  2565. guy I was telling you about.
  2566.  
  2567. 554
  2568. 00:28:14,098 --> 00:28:16,065
  2569. Oh! He just walked in!
  2570.  
  2571. 555
  2572. 00:28:16,067 --> 00:28:18,067
  2573. Forget the wine, I'll kill
  2574. myself now.
  2575.  
  2576. 556
  2577. 00:28:18,069 --> 00:28:22,371
  2578. No, not him... him.
  2579. I'll introduce you.
  2580.  
  2581. 557
  2582. 00:28:22,373 --> 00:28:23,506
  2583. Pam, please don't.
  2584.  
  2585. 558
  2586. 00:28:23,508 --> 00:28:26,409
  2587. - Warren! Hey!
  2588. - Oh, hi.
  2589.  
  2590. 559
  2591. 00:28:26,411 --> 00:28:28,211
  2592. Glad you could make it,
  2593. come on over.
  2594.  
  2595. 560
  2596. 00:28:28,213 --> 00:28:31,582
  2597. Warren, this is a
  2598. good friend of mine, Lisa Mayr.
  2599.  
  2600. 561
  2601. 00:28:31,584 --> 00:28:33,449
  2602. Lisa, this is Warren Strobel,
  2603. he's a journalist...
  2604.  
  2605. 562
  2606. 00:28:33,451 --> 00:28:35,121
  2607. and I'm gonna get another drink.
  2608.  
  2609. 563
  2610. 00:28:37,355 --> 00:28:39,022
  2611. Hi, uh, Lisa?
  2612.  
  2613. 564
  2614. 00:28:39,024 --> 00:28:40,457
  2615. - Yeah.
  2616. - Yeah, nice to meet you.
  2617.  
  2618. 565
  2619. 00:28:40,459 --> 00:28:42,128
  2620. - Hi.
  2621. - Uh...
  2622.  
  2623. 566
  2624. 00:28:43,461 --> 00:28:46,463
  2625. Did you ever make it
  2626. into your apartment?
  2627.  
  2628. 567
  2629. 00:28:46,465 --> 00:28:50,967
  2630. Uh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,
  2631. no, no, no, I'm sorry.
  2632.  
  2633. 568
  2634. 00:28:50,969 --> 00:28:54,406
  2635. - Yeah, I made it in okay.
  2636. - Good. Good.
  2637.  
  2638. 569
  2639. 00:28:56,141 --> 00:28:58,274
  2640. So, you're a journalist?
  2641.  
  2642. 570
  2643. 00:28:58,276 --> 00:29:01,143
  2644. Yeah, yeah, for Knight Ridder.
  2645.  
  2646. 571
  2647. 00:29:01,145 --> 00:29:03,947
  2648. Oh, is that a magazine
  2649. or a newspaper?
  2650.  
  2651. 572
  2652. 00:29:03,949 --> 00:29:09,052
  2653. It's actually a consortium
  2654. of 31 newspapers, actually.
  2655.  
  2656. 573
  2657. 00:29:09,054 --> 00:29:10,586
  2658. Well, my stories go out to all
  2659. of our newspapers...
  2660.  
  2661. 574
  2662. 00:29:10,588 --> 00:29:14,091
  2663. and each one has the option
  2664. to publish or not.
  2665.  
  2666. 575
  2667. 00:29:14,093 --> 00:29:17,127
  2668. Oh, okay. I've always wondered
  2669. how that worked.
  2670.  
  2671. 576
  2672. 00:29:17,129 --> 00:29:18,430
  2673. Yeah.
  2674.  
  2675. 577
  2676. 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,669
  2677. Hey, I got married when
  2678. I was 22.
  2679.  
  2680. 578
  2681. 00:29:25,671 --> 00:29:29,339
  2682. And we're only recently
  2683. separated, so...
  2684.  
  2685. 579
  2686. 00:29:29,341 --> 00:29:31,941
  2687. This is a little awkward for me.
  2688.  
  2689. 580
  2690. 00:29:31,943 --> 00:29:33,310
  2691. It's okay.
  2692.  
  2693. 581
  2694. 00:29:33,312 --> 00:29:35,245
  2695. I'm a little out of practice.
  2696.  
  2697. 582
  2698. 00:29:35,247 --> 00:29:39,082
  2699. Why don't you start
  2700. by asking me a question?
  2701.  
  2702. 583
  2703. 00:29:39,084 --> 00:29:41,854
  2704. Sure, yeah.
  2705.  
  2706. 584
  2707. 00:29:43,655 --> 00:29:45,924
  2708. Are you a Republican
  2709. or a Democrat?
  2710.  
  2711. 585
  2712. 00:29:47,426 --> 00:29:49,258
  2713. Try again.
  2714.  
  2715. 586
  2716. 00:29:49,260 --> 00:29:52,295
  2717. Yeah, of course, she wants you
  2718. to call her.
  2719.  
  2720. 587
  2721. 00:29:52,297 --> 00:29:54,031
  2722. She gave you her card.
  2723.  
  2724. 588
  2725. 00:29:54,033 --> 00:29:56,166
  2726. No, maybe she's just trying
  2727. to gin up business.
  2728.  
  2729. 589
  2730. 00:29:56,168 --> 00:29:58,669
  2731. At a singles mixer
  2732. on Valentine's Day?
  2733.  
  2734. 590
  2735. 00:29:58,671 --> 00:30:00,938
  2736. What? So, call her? I should
  2737. call her?
  2738.  
  2739. 591
  2740. 00:30:00,940 --> 00:30:02,973
  2741. What? No, no, no,
  2742. actually, let her dangle.
  2743.  
  2744. 592
  2745. 00:30:02,975 --> 00:30:04,941
  2746. There's nothing a woman in her
  2747. 30s likes more...
  2748.  
  2749. 593
  2750. 00:30:04,943 --> 00:30:07,177
  2751. than a guy who takes his time.
  2752.  
  2753. 594
  2754. 00:30:07,179 --> 00:30:09,012
  2755. I'm fine, Arthur, I'm fine.
  2756.  
  2757. 595
  2758. 00:30:09,014 --> 00:30:11,480
  2759. It's just that I'm getting a
  2760. little tired...
  2761.  
  2762. 596
  2763. 00:30:11,482 --> 00:30:13,417
  2764. of picking up your paper
  2765. every morning...
  2766.  
  2767. 597
  2768. 00:30:13,419 --> 00:30:15,384
  2769. and seeing that you're not
  2770. running our stories.
  2771.  
  2772. 598
  2773. 00:30:15,386 --> 00:30:17,219
  2774. I mean, last time I looked...
  2775.  
  2776. 599
  2777. 00:30:17,221 --> 00:30:21,057
  2778. The Philadelphia Inquirer was
  2779. a Knight Ridder paper, right?
  2780.  
  2781. 600
  2782. 00:30:21,059 --> 00:30:24,961
  2783. The point is, there's no point
  2784. in being a Knight Ridder paper..
  2785.  
  2786. 601
  2787. 00:30:24,963 --> 00:30:26,697
  2788. if you're not going to run
  2789. Knight Ridder stories.
  2790.  
  2791. 602
  2792. 00:30:26,699 --> 00:30:28,732
  2793. John, we've been through
  2794. this already.
  2795.  
  2796. 603
  2797. 00:30:28,734 --> 00:30:30,434
  2798. Your stories don't fit...
  2799.  
  2800. 604
  2801. 00:30:30,436 --> 00:30:33,269
  2802. in with what we're doing
  2803. over here right now.
  2804.  
  2805. 605
  2806. 00:30:33,271 --> 00:30:35,371
  2807. Don't fit? Don't fit with what?
  2808. The truth?
  2809.  
  2810. 606
  2811. 00:30:35,373 --> 00:30:37,274
  2812. <i>What's the matter, Arthur...</i>
  2813.  
  2814. 607
  2815. 00:30:37,276 --> 00:30:39,008
  2816. the truth doesn't sell
  2817. papers anymore?
  2818.  
  2819. 608
  2820. 00:30:39,010 --> 00:30:40,476
  2821. BROKAW: <i>And today, for the
  2822. first time...</i>
  2823.  
  2824. 609
  2825. 00:30:40,478 --> 00:30:42,278
  2826. <i>the administration provided...</i>
  2827.  
  2828. 610
  2829. 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,381
  2830. <i>details for what it has always
  2831. insisted was a connection...</i>
  2832.  
  2833. 611
  2834. 00:30:45,383 --> 00:30:48,150
  2835. <i>between Saddam Hussein
  2836. and Al Qaeda.</i>
  2837.  
  2838. 612
  2839. 00:30:48,152 --> 00:30:49,719
  2840. <i>How strong is that case?</i>
  2841.  
  2842. 613
  2843. 00:30:49,721 --> 00:30:52,022
  2844. REPORTER: <i>Iraqi president
  2845. Saddam Hussein says...</i>
  2846.  
  2847. 614
  2848. 00:30:52,024 --> 00:30:54,992
  2849. <i>he does not have any illegal
  2850. weapons of mass destruction...</i>
  2851.  
  2852. 615
  2853. 00:30:54,994 --> 00:30:58,195
  2854. <i>and accused the United States
  2855. of using weapons...</i>
  2856.  
  2857. 616
  2858. 00:30:58,197 --> 00:31:00,730
  2859. <i>as a pretext to start a war.</i>
  2860.  
  2861. 617
  2862. 00:31:00,732 --> 00:31:05,034
  2863. Mr. Galloway, how closely did
  2864. the movie conform to your book?
  2865.  
  2866. 618
  2867. 00:31:05,036 --> 00:31:08,438
  2868. The movie was about 80% accurate
  2869. and 20% bullshit...
  2870.  
  2871. 619
  2872. 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,411
  2873. which I guess by Hollywood
  2874. standards is an accomplishment.
  2875.  
  2876. 620
  2877. 00:31:14,013 --> 00:31:16,679
  2878. What inspired you to write
  2879. the book?
  2880.  
  2881. 621
  2882. 00:31:16,681 --> 00:31:19,082
  2883. Being shot at by the North
  2884. Vietnamese army.
  2885.  
  2886. 622
  2887. 00:31:19,084 --> 00:31:21,284
  2888. What was the biggest difference
  2889. between experiencing...
  2890.  
  2891. 623
  2892. 00:31:21,286 --> 00:31:25,589
  2893. the Battle of Ia Drang in person
  2894. versus watching it in a theater?
  2895.  
  2896. 624
  2897. 00:31:25,591 --> 00:31:27,493
  2898. The popcorn in Ia Drang was
  2899. saltier.
  2900.  
  2901. 625
  2902. 00:31:29,061 --> 00:31:30,427
  2903. Last question.
  2904.  
  2905. 626
  2906. 00:31:30,429 --> 00:31:32,528
  2907. Can you draw any comparisons
  2908. between Vietnam...
  2909.  
  2910. 627
  2911. 00:31:32,530 --> 00:31:35,131
  2912. and what's happening today
  2913. in Afghanistan?
  2914.  
  2915. 628
  2916. 00:31:35,133 --> 00:31:38,267
  2917. It's very different, but I think
  2918. it is appropriate...
  2919.  
  2920. 629
  2921. 00:31:38,269 --> 00:31:42,272
  2922. that before we start dropping
  2923. bombs, we think long and hard...
  2924.  
  2925. 630
  2926. 00:31:42,274 --> 00:31:45,042
  2927. about the greatest lesson
  2928. we got from Vietnam.
  2929.  
  2930. 631
  2931. 00:31:45,044 --> 00:31:46,676
  2932. Which is?
  2933.  
  2934. 632
  2935. 00:31:46,678 --> 00:31:51,247
  2936. When the government fucks up,
  2937. the soldiers pay the price.
  2938.  
  2939. 633
  2940. 00:31:51,249 --> 00:31:54,316
  2941. To what do I owe this
  2942. unexpected visit?
  2943.  
  2944. 634
  2945. 00:31:54,318 --> 00:31:56,652
  2946. Well, I was hoping I'd get
  2947. an autograph...
  2948.  
  2949. 635
  2950. 00:31:56,654 --> 00:31:59,255
  2951. from the world's most famous
  2952. war correspondent.
  2953.  
  2954. 636
  2955. 00:31:59,257 --> 00:32:03,259
  2956. I hate this part. Reporters are
  2957. not supposed to be the story.
  2958.  
  2959. 637
  2960. 00:32:03,261 --> 00:32:06,463
  2961. Reporters are not supposed to be
  2962. awarded the Bronze Star, either.
  2963.  
  2964. 638
  2965. 00:32:06,465 --> 00:32:08,832
  2966. How do you like the job
  2967. at State?
  2968.  
  2969. 639
  2970. 00:32:08,834 --> 00:32:10,467
  2971. I love working for General
  2972. Powell...
  2973.  
  2974. 640
  2975. 00:32:10,469 --> 00:32:12,134
  2976. and I hate working
  2977. for Uncle Sam.
  2978.  
  2979. 641
  2980. 00:32:12,136 --> 00:32:13,637
  2981. You miss reporting?
  2982.  
  2983. 642
  2984. 00:32:13,639 --> 00:32:15,471
  2985. After 42 years, I thought...
  2986.  
  2987. 643
  2988. 00:32:15,473 --> 00:32:17,274
  2989. I should take some time
  2990. away from it.
  2991.  
  2992. 644
  2993. 00:32:17,276 --> 00:32:20,744
  2994. So, I went to work at the State
  2995. Department on September 10th...
  2996.  
  2997. 645
  2998. 00:32:20,746 --> 00:32:23,112
  2999. and the next day the biggest
  3000. story of my life broke.
  3001.  
  3002. 646
  3003. 00:32:23,114 --> 00:32:25,782
  3004. I'd say there's a little bit
  3005. of a tug.
  3006.  
  3007. 647
  3008. 00:32:25,784 --> 00:32:29,518
  3009. We're working on something
  3010. important, that's why I'm here.
  3011.  
  3012. 648
  3013. 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,588
  3014. To make me envious?
  3015.  
  3016. 649
  3017. 00:32:31,590 --> 00:32:34,424
  3018. To make you an offer.
  3019.  
  3020. 650
  3021. 00:32:34,426 --> 00:32:37,726
  3022. HANNITY: <i>If he gets weapons
  3023. of mass destruction, Jerry.</i>
  3024.  
  3025. 651
  3026. 00:32:37,728 --> 00:32:39,795
  3027. <i>What does that mean
  3028. for the world?</i>
  3029.  
  3030. 652
  3031. 00:32:39,797 --> 00:32:41,531
  3032. <i>What does that mean
  3033. for the Middle East?</i>
  3034.  
  3035. 653
  3036. 00:32:41,533 --> 00:32:43,499
  3037. - Can you turn it down?
  3038. - I'm trying to watch the news.
  3039.  
  3040. 654
  3041. 00:32:43,501 --> 00:32:45,768
  3042. Stop calling it that.
  3043.  
  3044. 655
  3045. 00:32:45,770 --> 00:32:47,272
  3046. Hey, son.
  3047.  
  3048. 656
  3049. 00:32:52,311 --> 00:32:54,844
  3050. Adam, what's the matter?
  3051.  
  3052. 657
  3053. 00:32:54,846 --> 00:32:57,416
  3054. I met with a recruiter.
  3055.  
  3056. 658
  3057. 00:33:02,121 --> 00:33:04,390
  3058. HANNITY: <i>A lot of people
  3059. are gonna die, Jerry.</i>
  3060.  
  3061. 659
  3062. 00:33:08,392 --> 00:33:10,127
  3063. You know once you sign up...
  3064.  
  3065. 660
  3066. 00:33:10,129 --> 00:33:11,727
  3067. there's no changing your mind,
  3068. right?
  3069.  
  3070. 661
  3071. 00:33:11,729 --> 00:33:13,229
  3072. I know.
  3073.  
  3074. 662
  3075. 00:33:13,231 --> 00:33:14,864
  3076. What do you know?
  3077. You're just a kid.
  3078.  
  3079. 663
  3080. 00:33:14,866 --> 00:33:17,367
  3081. Whose country was attacked.
  3082.  
  3083. 664
  3084. 00:33:17,369 --> 00:33:19,636
  3085. Adam, I know you want to do what
  3086. you think is right...
  3087.  
  3088. 665
  3089. 00:33:19,638 --> 00:33:22,205
  3090. but war is not a video game.
  3091.  
  3092. 666
  3093. 00:33:22,207 --> 00:33:24,341
  3094. You have no idea what
  3095. you're getting into.
  3096.  
  3097. 667
  3098. 00:33:24,343 --> 00:33:26,711
  3099. I know exactly what
  3100. I'm getting into.
  3101.  
  3102. 668
  3103. 00:33:30,915 --> 00:33:33,149
  3104. Here.
  3105.  
  3106. 669
  3107. 00:33:33,151 --> 00:33:37,720
  3108. Show me where Afghanistan
  3109. is on this map.
  3110.  
  3111. 670
  3112. 00:33:37,722 --> 00:33:40,422
  3113. Show me.
  3114.  
  3115. 671
  3116. 00:33:40,424 --> 00:33:42,258
  3117. They're gonna send you halfway
  3118. around the world to fight...
  3119.  
  3120. 672
  3121. 00:33:42,260 --> 00:33:44,794
  3122. people you didn't even know
  3123. existed a year ago.
  3124.  
  3125. 673
  3126. 00:33:44,796 --> 00:33:47,496
  3127. If you know what you're
  3128. getting into...
  3129.  
  3130. 674
  3131. 00:33:47,498 --> 00:33:51,534
  3132. show me where Afghanistan
  3133. is on this map.
  3134.  
  3135. 675
  3136. 00:33:51,536 --> 00:33:54,603
  3137. Did anyone ever shove a map
  3138. in Dad's face...
  3139.  
  3140. 676
  3141. 00:33:54,605 --> 00:33:57,309
  3142. and ask him to find Vietnam?
  3143.  
  3144. 677
  3145. 00:34:03,614 --> 00:34:07,350
  3146. CHENEY: <i>We now know that
  3147. Saddam has resumed...</i>
  3148.  
  3149. 678
  3150. 00:34:07,352 --> 00:34:09,886
  3151. <i>his efforts to acquire
  3152. nuclear weapons.</i>
  3153.  
  3154. 679
  3155. 00:34:09,888 --> 00:34:12,688
  3156. <i>Among other sources, we've
  3157. gotten this from firsthand...</i>
  3158.  
  3159. 680
  3160. 00:34:12,690 --> 00:34:14,457
  3161. <i>testimony from defectors.</i>
  3162.  
  3163. 681
  3164. 00:34:14,459 --> 00:34:17,259
  3165. <i>Many of us are convinced
  3166. that Saddam Hussein...</i>
  3167.  
  3168. 682
  3169. 00:34:17,261 --> 00:34:19,962
  3170. <i>will acquire nuclear weapons
  3171. fairly soon.</i>
  3172.  
  3173. 683
  3174. 00:34:19,964 --> 00:34:23,799
  3175. <i>Simply stated, there is no
  3176. doubt that Saddam Hussein...</i>
  3177.  
  3178. 684
  3179. 00:34:23,801 --> 00:34:25,701
  3180. <i>now has weapons of mass
  3181. destruction.</i>
  3182.  
  3183. 685
  3184. 00:34:25,703 --> 00:34:28,605
  3185. They're dialing up
  3186. the rhetoric on Iraq.
  3187.  
  3188. 686
  3189. 00:34:28,607 --> 00:34:30,710
  3190. Let's see if we can nail
  3191. them down, okay?
  3192.  
  3193. 687
  3194. 00:34:32,777 --> 00:34:35,545
  3195. Twenty bucks, whoever gets
  3196. the best quote.
  3197.  
  3198. 688
  3199. 00:34:35,547 --> 00:34:38,480
  3200. No, no, no, you're such a child.
  3201.  
  3202. 689
  3203. 00:34:38,482 --> 00:34:39,616
  3204. You're such a pussy.
  3205.  
  3206. 690
  3207. 00:34:39,618 --> 00:34:41,217
  3208. I'm not taking your money.
  3209.  
  3210. 691
  3211. 00:34:41,219 --> 00:34:42,719
  3212. You get all bent out of shape
  3213. when you lose.
  3214.  
  3215. 692
  3216. 00:34:42,721 --> 00:34:44,487
  3217. I don't care. I'm just the same
  3218. when I win or lose.
  3219.  
  3220. 693
  3221. 00:34:44,489 --> 00:34:46,255
  3222. I'm not... it's not a bet,
  3223. all right, fine.
  3224.  
  3225. 694
  3226. 00:34:46,257 --> 00:34:47,857
  3227. Warren Strobel for Senator
  3228. Biden, please.
  3229.  
  3230. 695
  3231. 00:34:47,859 --> 00:34:49,692
  3232. Son of a bitch.
  3233.  
  3234. 696
  3235. 00:34:49,694 --> 00:34:52,362
  3236. Biden told Bush, "There's a
  3237. reason your father didn't go...
  3238.  
  3239. 697
  3240. 00:34:52,364 --> 00:34:53,529
  3241. "to Baghdad. He knew he would
  3242. have to stay...
  3243.  
  3244. 698
  3245. 00:34:53,531 --> 00:34:54,998
  3246. "for at least five years."
  3247.  
  3248. 699
  3249. 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,667
  3250. I got Michael O'Hanlon
  3251. at Brookings saying...
  3252.  
  3253. 700
  3254. 00:34:57,669 --> 00:35:00,306
  3255. "You definitely cannot
  3256. count on it being a cakewalk."
  3257.  
  3258. 701
  3259. 00:35:01,672 --> 00:35:03,672
  3260. We gotta hit it harder
  3261. than that.
  3262.  
  3263. 702
  3264. 00:35:03,674 --> 00:35:05,908
  3265. All right, well, hang on. I got
  3266. an official at the U.N...
  3267.  
  3268. 703
  3269. 00:35:05,910 --> 00:35:07,611
  3270. that says, "There's widespread
  3271. concern...
  3272.  
  3273. 704
  3274. 00:35:07,613 --> 00:35:09,779
  3275. "that this will destabilize
  3276. the whole Middle East."
  3277.  
  3278. 705
  3279. 00:35:09,781 --> 00:35:12,348
  3280. Let me see what you have.
  3281.  
  3282. 706
  3283. 00:35:12,350 --> 00:35:13,616
  3284. Well, wait, I got... I got...
  3285.  
  3286. 707
  3287. 00:35:13,618 --> 00:35:15,585
  3288. Just give it to me,
  3289. give, give, give.
  3290.  
  3291. 708
  3292. 00:35:15,587 --> 00:35:16,752
  3293. Okay.
  3294.  
  3295. 709
  3296. 00:35:16,754 --> 00:35:18,788
  3297. All right.
  3298.  
  3299. 710
  3300. 00:35:18,790 --> 00:35:22,460
  3301. Let's see here... all right.
  3302.  
  3303. 711
  3304. 00:36:08,873 --> 00:36:10,940
  3305. You guys are smart.
  3306.  
  3307. 712
  3308. 00:36:10,942 --> 00:36:13,509
  3309. You know what's unfolding here.
  3310.  
  3311. 713
  3312. 00:36:13,511 --> 00:36:17,515
  3313. Our readers need to know what
  3314. we've learned.
  3315.  
  3316. 714
  3317. 00:36:21,085 --> 00:36:24,721
  3318. "In the best case scenario, U.S.
  3319. troops could be stuck in Iraq...
  3320.  
  3321. 715
  3322. 00:36:24,723 --> 00:36:27,891
  3323. "for years trying to teach the
  3324. inner workings of democracy...
  3325.  
  3326. 716
  3327. 00:36:27,893 --> 00:36:31,761
  3328. "to a nation that has never
  3329. known it. In the worst case...
  3330.  
  3331. 717
  3332. 00:36:31,763 --> 00:36:35,732
  3333. "scenario, an invasion could
  3334. cause Iraq's fractious ethnic...
  3335.  
  3336. 718
  3337. 00:36:35,734 --> 00:36:38,567
  3338. "groups to break off into their
  3339. own mini-states...
  3340.  
  3341. 719
  3342. 00:36:38,569 --> 00:36:41,603
  3343. "trapping American combat forces
  3344. in the middle...
  3345.  
  3346. 720
  3347. 00:36:41,605 --> 00:36:44,276
  3348. "of a bloody civil war
  3349. for decades."
  3350.  
  3351. 721
  3352. 00:36:46,777 --> 00:36:48,745
  3353. Boss man's got balls.
  3354.  
  3355. 722
  3356. 00:36:48,747 --> 00:36:50,815
  3357. Yeah.
  3358.  
  3359. 723
  3360. 00:37:16,107 --> 00:37:25,047
  3361. Shit.
  3362.  
  3363. 724
  3364. 00:37:25,049 --> 00:37:26,382
  3365. Were those for me?
  3366.  
  3367. 725
  3368. 00:37:26,384 --> 00:37:29,886
  3369. No. Yes.
  3370.  
  3371. 726
  3372. 00:37:29,888 --> 00:37:34,556
  3373. But I thought it might be
  3374. a little, I don't know...
  3375.  
  3376. 727
  3377. 00:37:34,558 --> 00:37:36,658
  3378. a little too soon to be giving
  3379. each other gifts.
  3380.  
  3381. 728
  3382. 00:37:36,660 --> 00:37:38,594
  3383. It would've been all right.
  3384.  
  3385. 729
  3386. 00:37:38,596 --> 00:37:39,862
  3387. Okay.
  3388.  
  3389. 730
  3390. 00:37:39,864 --> 00:37:42,498
  3391. Well, I think they landed
  3392. on my car...
  3393.  
  3394. 731
  3395. 00:37:42,500 --> 00:37:44,533
  3396. so if you want to grab them
  3397. on the way to dinner...
  3398.  
  3399. 732
  3400. 00:37:44,535 --> 00:37:46,603
  3401. maybe we can do that?
  3402.  
  3403. 733
  3404. 00:37:46,605 --> 00:37:48,474
  3405. - Great.
  3406. - Great.
  3407.  
  3408. 734
  3409. 00:37:51,609 --> 00:37:54,777
  3410. Okay, so what was the most
  3411. embarrassing thing...
  3412.  
  3413. 735
  3414. 00:37:54,779 --> 00:37:56,348
  3415. you did to prepare for tonight?
  3416.  
  3417. 736
  3418. 00:37:59,116 --> 00:38:01,083
  3419. All right.
  3420.  
  3421. 737
  3422. 00:38:01,085 --> 00:38:03,585
  3423. I will admit, that to prepare
  3424. for tonight...
  3425.  
  3426. 738
  3427. 00:38:03,587 --> 00:38:05,721
  3428. I did kind of a cram session
  3429. on Iraq...
  3430.  
  3431. 739
  3432. 00:38:05,723 --> 00:38:08,725
  3433. and the history of the Muslim
  3434. world.
  3435.  
  3436. 740
  3437. 00:38:08,727 --> 00:38:09,859
  3438. Really?
  3439.  
  3440. 741
  3441. 00:38:09,861 --> 00:38:11,627
  3442. Yes.
  3443.  
  3444. 742
  3445. 00:38:11,629 --> 00:38:14,129
  3446. Now I know that 1400 years ago,
  3447. after the death of Muhammad...
  3448.  
  3449. 743
  3450. 00:38:14,131 --> 00:38:16,498
  3451. Muslims fought over who was to
  3452. be his rightful heir...
  3453.  
  3454. 744
  3455. 00:38:16,500 --> 00:38:18,167
  3456. and that caused a split
  3457. into two factions...
  3458.  
  3459. 745
  3460. 00:38:18,169 --> 00:38:19,569
  3461. the Sunnis and the Shiites.
  3462.  
  3463. 746
  3464. 00:38:19,571 --> 00:38:21,136
  3465. And they've been at war
  3466. ever since.
  3467.  
  3468. 747
  3469. 00:38:21,138 --> 00:38:23,172
  3470. Then, at the end of World War I,
  3471. the British and the French...
  3472.  
  3473. 748
  3474. 00:38:23,174 --> 00:38:26,141
  3475. arbitrarily divided the Arab
  3476. world into countries...
  3477.  
  3478. 749
  3479. 00:38:26,143 --> 00:38:28,143
  3480. putting the Sunni majority
  3481. in charge.
  3482.  
  3483. 750
  3484. 00:38:28,145 --> 00:38:32,882
  3485. But the country that became Iraq
  3486. is made up of only 20% Sunni.
  3487.  
  3488. 751
  3489. 00:38:32,884 --> 00:38:37,554
  3490. So, Saddam Hussein, a Sunni,
  3491. with an iron fist rules...
  3492.  
  3493. 752
  3494. 00:38:37,556 --> 00:38:38,987
  3495. the majority Shiite
  3496. population...
  3497.  
  3498. 753
  3499. 00:38:38,989 --> 00:38:42,558
  3500. and the 20% Kurdish population
  3501. in northern Iraq.
  3502.  
  3503. 754
  3504. 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,527
  3505. But if Saddam Hussein were
  3506. removed, it could possibly...
  3507.  
  3508. 755
  3509. 00:38:45,529 --> 00:38:48,096
  3510. reignite that 1400-year-old
  3511. sectarian war.
  3512.  
  3513. 756
  3514. 00:38:48,098 --> 00:38:50,199
  3515. Now, after reading <i>your</i>
  3516. stories...
  3517.  
  3518. 757
  3519. 00:38:50,201 --> 00:38:53,870
  3520. I know that Iran is the top
  3521. sponsor of terror, not Iraq.
  3522.  
  3523. 758
  3524. 00:38:53,872 --> 00:38:57,507
  3525. That a man named Ahmed Chalabi
  3526. seems to be a con artist...
  3527.  
  3528. 759
  3529. 00:38:57,509 --> 00:38:59,509
  3530. who wants to replace
  3531. Saddam Hussein.
  3532.  
  3533. 760
  3534. 00:38:59,511 --> 00:39:01,210
  3535. That the neo-cons in the Bush
  3536. Administration...
  3537.  
  3538. 761
  3539. 00:39:01,212 --> 00:39:02,846
  3540. are pushing for an invasion.
  3541.  
  3542. 762
  3543. 00:39:02,848 --> 00:39:06,482
  3544. And you are quickly becoming
  3545. my favorite writer.
  3546.  
  3547. 763
  3548. 00:39:06,484 --> 00:39:08,053
  3549. Wow.
  3550.  
  3551. 764
  3552. 00:39:12,122 --> 00:39:16,725
  3553. Um... I guess it's my turn.
  3554.  
  3555. 765
  3556. 00:39:16,727 --> 00:39:17,826
  3557. Give it to me.
  3558.  
  3559. 766
  3560. 00:39:17,828 --> 00:39:20,897
  3561. Okay, I will admit that...
  3562.  
  3563. 767
  3564. 00:39:20,899 --> 00:39:24,533
  3565. This is a little embarrassing.
  3566.  
  3567. 768
  3568. 00:39:24,535 --> 00:39:29,571
  3569. I asked my ex-wife to watch
  3570. my two sons tonight.
  3571.  
  3572. 769
  3573. 00:39:29,573 --> 00:39:31,140
  3574. Why is that embarrassing?
  3575.  
  3576. 770
  3577. 00:39:31,142 --> 00:39:33,076
  3578. Because a babysitter would
  3579. expect me home...
  3580.  
  3581. 771
  3582. 00:39:33,078 --> 00:39:37,013
  3583. at the end of the evening and...
  3584.  
  3585. 772
  3586. 00:39:37,015 --> 00:39:40,083
  3587. Should we get the check?
  3588.  
  3589. 773
  3590. 00:39:40,085 --> 00:39:43,553
  3591. Tell your boss we're gonna run
  3592. it whether he comments or not!
  3593.  
  3594. 774
  3595. 00:39:43,555 --> 00:39:46,656
  3596. Actually yes, it is a matter
  3597. of life and death!
  3598.  
  3599. 775
  3600. 00:39:46,658 --> 00:39:50,292
  3601. We're talking about going
  3602. to fucking war!
  3603.  
  3604. 776
  3605. 00:39:50,294 --> 00:39:52,730
  3606. Hello?
  3607.  
  3608. 777
  3609. 00:39:54,098 --> 00:39:56,866
  3610. I'm guessing that was
  3611. a no comment?
  3612.  
  3613. 778
  3614. 00:39:56,868 --> 00:39:59,067
  3615. What are you grinning
  3616. about?
  3617.  
  3618. 779
  3619. 00:39:59,069 --> 00:40:00,770
  3620. What? I'm not grinning.
  3621.  
  3622. 780
  3623. 00:40:00,772 --> 00:40:03,540
  3624. - You're grinning.
  3625. - I'm not grinning.
  3626.  
  3627. 781
  3628. 00:40:03,542 --> 00:40:04,908
  3629. - I'm not...
  3630. - What have you got over there?
  3631.  
  3632. 782
  3633. 00:40:04,910 --> 00:40:06,643
  3634. Relax! Don't worry about it.
  3635.  
  3636. 783
  3637. 00:40:06,645 --> 00:40:08,143
  3638. Oh my God, she could
  3639. do my taxes.
  3640.  
  3641. 784
  3642. 00:40:08,145 --> 00:40:10,045
  3643. - All right, relax.
  3644. - <i>(PHONE RINGING)</i>
  3645.  
  3646. 785
  3647. 00:40:10,047 --> 00:40:12,685
  3648. - Strobel, Knight Ridder.
  3649. - Of course.
  3650.  
  3651. 786
  3652. 00:40:15,687 --> 00:40:17,819
  3653. Okay.
  3654.  
  3655. 787
  3656. 00:40:17,821 --> 00:40:20,123
  3657. All right, I'll be right there.
  3658.  
  3659. 788
  3660. 00:40:20,125 --> 00:40:22,094
  3661. Let's go, this could be
  3662. something.
  3663.  
  3664. 789
  3665. 00:40:26,997 --> 00:40:29,065
  3666. So, how does this work?
  3667.  
  3668. 790
  3669. 00:40:29,067 --> 00:40:32,171
  3670. Do you ask me questions or do
  3671. I just start talking?
  3672.  
  3673. 791
  3674. 00:40:33,270 --> 00:40:35,804
  3675. Why don't you just begin...
  3676.  
  3677. 792
  3678. 00:40:35,806 --> 00:40:37,205
  3679. and we'll ask the questions
  3680. when we have them.
  3681.  
  3682. 793
  3683. 00:40:37,207 --> 00:40:39,741
  3684. If it's off the record,
  3685. I have to say so, right?
  3686.  
  3687. 794
  3688. 00:40:39,743 --> 00:40:42,178
  3689. Do you want it to be
  3690. off the record?
  3691.  
  3692. 795
  3693. 00:40:42,180 --> 00:40:45,848
  3694. I want people to know what
  3695. I know, but not who I am.
  3696.  
  3697. 796
  3698. 00:40:45,850 --> 00:40:47,616
  3699. It'll be background.
  3700.  
  3701. 797
  3702. 00:40:47,618 --> 00:40:50,055
  3703. You'll be referred to
  3704. as a U.S. official.
  3705.  
  3706. 798
  3707. 00:40:56,962 --> 00:40:59,732
  3708. So, whatever you feel
  3709. comfortable telling us.
  3710.  
  3711. 799
  3712. 00:41:03,134 --> 00:41:06,335
  3713. I believe your prediction about
  3714. what could and will happen...
  3715.  
  3716. 800
  3717. 00:41:06,337 --> 00:41:08,904
  3718. if we go to war is spot on.
  3719.  
  3720. 801
  3721. 00:41:08,906 --> 00:41:11,641
  3722. And we're a lot closer
  3723. than you think.
  3724.  
  3725. 802
  3726. 00:41:11,643 --> 00:41:13,208
  3727. How close?
  3728.  
  3729. 803
  3730. 00:41:13,210 --> 00:41:16,279
  3731. A secret war planning group
  3732. with a parallel intelligence...
  3733.  
  3734. 804
  3735. 00:41:16,281 --> 00:41:18,880
  3736. operation has been set up
  3737. to bypass...
  3738.  
  3739. 805
  3740. 00:41:18,882 --> 00:41:21,150
  3741. the rest of the
  3742. intelligence community.
  3743.  
  3744. 806
  3745. 00:41:21,152 --> 00:41:22,685
  3746. How do you know this?
  3747.  
  3748. 807
  3749. 00:41:22,687 --> 00:41:25,120
  3750. They meet in the building
  3751. where I work.
  3752.  
  3753. 808
  3754. 00:41:25,122 --> 00:41:27,123
  3755. And which building is that?
  3756.  
  3757. 809
  3758. 00:41:27,125 --> 00:41:31,861
  3759. The one with the five sides.
  3760.  
  3761. 810
  3762. 00:41:31,863 --> 00:41:32,962
  3763. But you're not a part
  3764. of that unit?
  3765.  
  3766. 811
  3767. 00:41:32,964 --> 00:41:34,196
  3768. No.
  3769.  
  3770. 812
  3771. 00:41:34,198 --> 00:41:35,832
  3772. So, how do you know about this?
  3773.  
  3774. 813
  3775. 00:41:35,834 --> 00:41:38,100
  3776. My desk is across the hall.
  3777.  
  3778. 814
  3779. 00:41:38,102 --> 00:41:40,402
  3780. What office do you work for?
  3781.  
  3782. 815
  3783. 00:41:40,404 --> 00:41:45,007
  3784. Near East South Asia division,
  3785. but you can't disclose that.
  3786.  
  3787. 816
  3788. 00:41:45,009 --> 00:41:47,009
  3789. You're an analyst?
  3790.  
  3791. 817
  3792. 00:41:47,011 --> 00:41:51,047
  3793. Yes... but you can't disclose
  3794. that, either.
  3795.  
  3796. 818
  3797. 00:41:51,049 --> 00:41:53,315
  3798. I'm speaking to you because
  3799. I'm an American citizen...
  3800.  
  3801. 819
  3802. 00:41:53,317 --> 00:41:55,917
  3803. and I don't like what these
  3804. people are doing.
  3805.  
  3806. 820
  3807. 00:41:55,919 --> 00:41:59,288
  3808. Half a dozen men, most of whom
  3809. have never served...
  3810.  
  3811. 821
  3812. 00:41:59,290 --> 00:42:01,424
  3813. in the military are making
  3814. decisions...
  3815.  
  3816. 822
  3817. 00:42:01,426 --> 00:42:04,893
  3818. based on shoddy intelligence,
  3819. and those decisions...
  3820.  
  3821. 823
  3822. 00:42:04,895 --> 00:42:07,362
  3823. will impact our men
  3824. and women in uniform.
  3825.  
  3826. 824
  3827. 00:42:07,364 --> 00:42:14,670
  3828. And as someone who has worn that
  3829. uniform, I can't remain silent.
  3830.  
  3831. 825
  3832. 00:42:14,672 --> 00:42:19,975
  3833. You said shoddy intelligence.
  3834. What do you mean by that?
  3835.  
  3836. 826
  3837. 00:42:19,977 --> 00:42:23,078
  3838. They've designed a process
  3839. that doesn't conform...
  3840.  
  3841. 827
  3842. 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,248
  3843. to any basic tenet
  3844. of intelligence gathering.
  3845.  
  3846. 828
  3847. 00:42:26,250 --> 00:42:27,750
  3848. In what way?
  3849.  
  3850. 829
  3851. 00:42:27,752 --> 00:42:29,951
  3852. A decision is made,
  3853. then the intelligence...
  3854.  
  3855. 830
  3856. 00:42:29,953 --> 00:42:33,388
  3857. is sought to support
  3858. that decision.
  3859.  
  3860. 831
  3861. 00:42:33,390 --> 00:42:34,991
  3862. How do you know this?
  3863.  
  3864. 832
  3865. 00:42:34,993 --> 00:42:37,993
  3866. They have no interest
  3867. in Arabic speakers.
  3868.  
  3869. 833
  3870. 00:42:37,995 --> 00:42:40,797
  3871. Israelis come in without
  3872. passes...
  3873.  
  3874. 834
  3875. 00:42:40,799 --> 00:42:43,966
  3876. without even being entered
  3877. into a security log.
  3878.  
  3879. 835
  3880. 00:42:43,968 --> 00:42:47,103
  3881. And for years the government has
  3882. been funding a group...
  3883.  
  3884. 836
  3885. 00:42:47,105 --> 00:42:51,473
  3886. of exiled dissidents called the
  3887. Iraqi National Congress.
  3888.  
  3889. 837
  3890. 00:42:51,475 --> 00:42:53,710
  3891. Led by Ahmad Chalabi, we know.
  3892.  
  3893. 838
  3894. 00:42:53,712 --> 00:42:56,745
  3895. Who they want to install
  3896. as the new leader of Iraq.
  3897.  
  3898. 839
  3899. 00:42:56,747 --> 00:42:58,815
  3900. Yeah, we've been trying to get
  3901. a meeting with him.
  3902.  
  3903. 840
  3904. 00:42:58,817 --> 00:43:01,085
  3905. Do you know who set up
  3906. this operation?
  3907.  
  3908. 841
  3909. 00:43:04,955 --> 00:43:07,890
  3910. Donald Rumsfeld.
  3911.  
  3912. 842
  3913. 00:43:07,892 --> 00:43:09,958
  3914. <i>Is there any evidence to
  3915. indicate that Iraq...</i>
  3916.  
  3917. 843
  3918. 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:14,429
  3919. <i>has attempted to or is willing
  3920. to supply terrorists...</i>
  3921.  
  3922. 844
  3923. 00:43:14,431 --> 00:43:16,732
  3924. <i>with weapons of mass
  3925. destruction?</i>
  3926.  
  3927. 845
  3928. 00:43:16,734 --> 00:43:21,203
  3929. <i>The reports that say that
  3930. something hasn't happened...</i>
  3931.  
  3932. 846
  3933. 00:43:21,205 --> 00:43:24,841
  3934. <i>are always interesting to me
  3935. because as we know...</i>
  3936.  
  3937. 847
  3938. 00:43:24,843 --> 00:43:29,078
  3939. <i>there are known knowns, there
  3940. are things we know we know.</i>
  3941.  
  3942. 848
  3943. 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,413
  3944. <i>We also know there are known
  3945. unknowns.</i>
  3946.  
  3947. 849
  3948. 00:43:31,415 --> 00:43:34,951
  3949. <i>That is to say, we know there
  3950. are some things we do not know.</i>
  3951.  
  3952. 850
  3953. 00:43:34,953 --> 00:43:37,487
  3954. <i>But there are also unknown
  3955. unknowns.</i>
  3956.  
  3957. 851
  3958. 00:43:37,489 --> 00:43:39,321
  3959. <i>The one's we don't know
  3960. we don't know.</i>
  3961.  
  3962. 852
  3963. 00:43:39,323 --> 00:43:41,891
  3964. We're working on a theory that
  3965. the administration...
  3966.  
  3967. 853
  3968. 00:43:41,893 --> 00:43:43,391
  3969. has already decided to go
  3970. to war...
  3971.  
  3972. 854
  3973. 00:43:43,393 --> 00:43:45,328
  3974. and is now focused on how
  3975. to justify it.
  3976.  
  3977. 855
  3978. 00:43:45,330 --> 00:43:47,196
  3979. It's not a theory.
  3980.  
  3981. 856
  3982. 00:43:47,198 --> 00:43:49,766
  3983. We've also been told by a number
  3984. of individuals that...
  3985.  
  3986. 857
  3987. 00:43:49,768 --> 00:43:52,835
  3988. Rumsfeld's the one spearheading
  3989. this intelligence gathering.
  3990.  
  3991. 858
  3992. 00:43:52,837 --> 00:43:55,237
  3993. I wouldn't exactly
  3994. call it intelligence gathering.
  3995.  
  3996. 859
  3997. 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,272
  3998. It's more like
  3999. intelligence cherry picking.
  4000.  
  4001. 860
  4002. 00:43:57,274 --> 00:43:58,940
  4003. And if they don't find
  4004. any cherries...
  4005.  
  4006. 861
  4007. 00:43:58,942 --> 00:44:00,509
  4008. they just grab a piece
  4009. of shit...
  4010.  
  4011. 862
  4012. 00:44:00,511 --> 00:44:03,879
  4013. and they paint it red, and they
  4014. stick it in a Shirley Temple.
  4015.  
  4016. 863
  4017. 00:44:03,881 --> 00:44:07,250
  4018. You seem irritated.
  4019.  
  4020. 864
  4021. 00:44:07,252 --> 00:44:09,919
  4022. I'm out there looking for
  4023. weapons that might not exist...
  4024.  
  4025. 865
  4026. 00:44:09,921 --> 00:44:12,487
  4027. to justify a war that might
  4028. not be wise.
  4029.  
  4030. 866
  4031. 00:44:12,489 --> 00:44:17,025
  4032. And have you found any evidence
  4033. of WMD?
  4034.  
  4035. 867
  4036. 00:44:17,027 --> 00:44:18,895
  4037. No, sir.
  4038.  
  4039. 868
  4040. 00:44:18,897 --> 00:44:21,029
  4041. But Saddam is looking to acquire
  4042. nukes, right?
  4043.  
  4044. 869
  4045. 00:44:21,031 --> 00:44:23,966
  4046. Yeah, and I'm trying to fuck
  4047. Jennifer Lopez, but I have...
  4048.  
  4049. 870
  4050. 00:44:23,968 --> 00:44:26,234
  4051. a sinking feeling that neither
  4052. of those things is gonna happen.
  4053.  
  4054. 871
  4055. 00:44:26,236 --> 00:44:31,040
  4056. So, we won't use your identity,
  4057. but can we get a quote?
  4058.  
  4059. 872
  4060. 00:44:31,042 --> 00:44:32,808
  4061. Sure.
  4062.  
  4063. 873
  4064. 00:44:32,810 --> 00:44:34,976
  4065. Have you found anything to
  4066. support the administration's...
  4067.  
  4068. 874
  4069. 00:44:34,978 --> 00:44:38,446
  4070. theory that Saddam is close to
  4071. or has acquired nuclear weapons?
  4072.  
  4073. 875
  4074. 00:44:38,448 --> 00:44:40,016
  4075. We've searched every cave...
  4076.  
  4077. 876
  4078. 00:44:40,018 --> 00:44:42,451
  4079. and looked up every camel's ass
  4080. in Iraq.
  4081.  
  4082. 877
  4083. 00:44:42,453 --> 00:44:47,292
  4084. So, here's your quote,
  4085. "no fucking way."
  4086.  
  4087. 878
  4088. 00:44:49,194 --> 00:44:51,027
  4089. Might have to clean
  4090. that up a bit.
  4091.  
  4092. 879
  4093. 00:44:51,029 --> 00:44:54,129
  4094. Quite colorful, though.
  4095.  
  4096. 880
  4097. 00:44:54,131 --> 00:44:55,263
  4098. LANDAY:
  4099. Uh, honey, I think someone...
  4100.  
  4101. 881
  4102. 00:44:55,265 --> 00:44:56,966
  4103. is stealing our New York Times.
  4104.  
  4105. 882
  4106. 00:44:56,968 --> 00:44:58,301
  4107. VLATKA: I canceled it.
  4108.  
  4109. 883
  4110. 00:44:58,303 --> 00:45:00,169
  4111. Why would you do that?
  4112.  
  4113. 884
  4114. 00:45:00,171 --> 00:45:01,437
  4115. It's propaganda.
  4116.  
  4117. 885
  4118. 00:45:01,439 --> 00:45:03,239
  4119. I need that for my work.
  4120.  
  4121. 886
  4122. 00:45:03,241 --> 00:45:05,607
  4123. It's packaging press releases
  4124. from the White House...
  4125.  
  4126. 887
  4127. 00:45:05,609 --> 00:45:07,609
  4128. the State Department, and the
  4129. Pentagon.
  4130.  
  4131. 888
  4132. 00:45:07,611 --> 00:45:09,514
  4133. Sorry, that's not a real
  4134. newspaper.
  4135.  
  4136. 889
  4137. 00:45:16,421 --> 00:45:18,987
  4138. How was your day?
  4139.  
  4140. 890
  4141. 00:45:18,989 --> 00:45:21,257
  4142. Warren and I met with some
  4143. gentleman...
  4144.  
  4145. 891
  4146. 00:45:21,259 --> 00:45:23,592
  4147. from the intelligence community
  4148. who confirmed that...
  4149.  
  4150. 892
  4151. 00:45:23,594 --> 00:45:25,627
  4152. there's no real evidence
  4153. to support...
  4154.  
  4155. 893
  4156. 00:45:25,629 --> 00:45:28,966
  4157. the administration's
  4158. claim on WMD.
  4159.  
  4160. 894
  4161. 00:45:31,435 --> 00:45:34,203
  4162. What have I been telling you?
  4163.  
  4164. 895
  4165. 00:45:34,205 --> 00:45:38,477
  4166. Well, unfortunately, I can't use
  4167. your gut as a reliable source.
  4168.  
  4169. 896
  4170. 00:45:43,448 --> 00:45:46,449
  4171. You know, this is what they do.
  4172. They lie.
  4173.  
  4174. 897
  4175. 00:45:46,451 --> 00:45:49,421
  4176. Yeah, and we try to hold
  4177. them accountable.
  4178.  
  4179. 898
  4180. 00:45:52,656 --> 00:45:55,324
  4181. I hope I'm wrong. I really,
  4182. really do.
  4183.  
  4184. 899
  4185. 00:45:55,326 --> 00:45:58,460
  4186. But the Bush Administration,
  4187. they don't care about the truth.
  4188.  
  4189. 900
  4190. 00:45:58,462 --> 00:46:01,196
  4191. They don't even respond to your
  4192. articles.
  4193.  
  4194. 901
  4195. 00:46:01,198 --> 00:46:04,299
  4196. If they want a war, they're
  4197. gonna get one.
  4198.  
  4199. 902
  4200. 00:46:04,301 --> 00:46:07,002
  4201. And there's nothing that you
  4202. or the first amendment...
  4203.  
  4204. 903
  4205. 00:46:07,004 --> 00:46:08,439
  4206. is gonna do to stop them.
  4207.  
  4208. 904
  4209. 00:46:22,319 --> 00:46:24,222
  4210. Extra, extra, read all about it.
  4211.  
  4212. 905
  4213. 00:46:30,428 --> 00:46:34,297
  4214. "Over the past 14 months, Iraq
  4215. has tried to buy thousands...
  4216.  
  4217. 906
  4218. 00:46:34,299 --> 00:46:37,500
  4219. "of specially design aluminum
  4220. tubes, which American...
  4221.  
  4222. 907
  4223. 00:46:37,502 --> 00:46:39,534
  4224. "officials believe were intended
  4225. as components...
  4226.  
  4227. 908
  4228. 00:46:39,536 --> 00:46:43,471
  4229. "of centrifuges to enrich
  4230. uranium."
  4231.  
  4232. 909
  4233. 00:46:43,473 --> 00:46:45,241
  4234. Well, one thing's for sure.
  4235.  
  4236. 910
  4237. 00:46:45,243 --> 00:46:46,676
  4238. What's that?
  4239.  
  4240. 911
  4241. 00:46:46,678 --> 00:46:49,181
  4242. We can't both be right.
  4243.  
  4244. 912
  4245. 00:46:52,683 --> 00:46:54,016
  4246. Who're you calling?
  4247.  
  4248. 913
  4249. 00:46:54,018 --> 00:46:55,951
  4250. Loose Nukes.
  4251.  
  4252. 914
  4253. 00:46:55,953 --> 00:46:57,520
  4254. If she wouldn't talk to you
  4255. about going into Iraq...
  4256.  
  4257. 915
  4258. 00:46:57,522 --> 00:47:00,121
  4259. what makes you think she's gonna
  4260. go on the record on WMD?
  4261.  
  4262. 916
  4263. 00:47:00,123 --> 00:47:03,127
  4264. Charm Offensive. Watch and
  4265. learn, son.
  4266.  
  4267. 917
  4268. 00:47:07,198 --> 00:47:08,667
  4269. Landay.
  4270.  
  4271. 918
  4272. 00:47:11,368 --> 00:47:14,469
  4273. - It's Joe Galloway.
  4274. - Wow.
  4275.  
  4276. 919
  4277. 00:47:14,471 --> 00:47:16,605
  4278. Man even walks like he has
  4279. a Bronze Star.
  4280.  
  4281. 920
  4282. 00:47:16,607 --> 00:47:17,973
  4283. LOOSE NUKES (OVER PHONE):
  4284. <i>Hello.</i>
  4285.  
  4286. 921
  4287. 00:47:17,975 --> 00:47:20,275
  4288. Oh, hi, yeah, it's Landay.
  4289.  
  4290. 922
  4291. 00:47:20,277 --> 00:47:21,576
  4292. <i>Hello, Jonathan.</i>
  4293.  
  4294. 923
  4295. 00:47:21,578 --> 00:47:27,382
  4296. Hi. Crazy weather we're having,
  4297. huh?
  4298.  
  4299. 924
  4300. 00:47:27,384 --> 00:47:29,417
  4301. <i>You're calling me to chat
  4302. about the weather?</i>
  4303.  
  4304. 925
  4305. 00:47:29,419 --> 00:47:34,056
  4306. No, no, yeah. Actually, I wanted
  4307. to ask you about WMD.
  4308.  
  4309. 926
  4310. 00:47:34,058 --> 00:47:35,623
  4311. It'll be deep, deep background.
  4312.  
  4313. 927
  4314. 00:47:35,625 --> 00:47:37,292
  4315. <i>Goodbye, Jonathan.</i>
  4316.  
  4317. 928
  4318. 00:47:37,294 --> 00:47:40,228
  4319. No wait, don't hang up.
  4320.  
  4321. 929
  4322. 00:47:40,230 --> 00:47:44,199
  4323. That Charm Offensive...
  4324. that's formidable.
  4325.  
  4326. 930
  4327. 00:47:44,201 --> 00:47:48,471
  4328. Listen, we need you here.
  4329.  
  4330. 931
  4331. 00:47:48,473 --> 00:47:51,172
  4332. You've developed sources over
  4333. the years that have access...
  4334.  
  4335. 932
  4336. 00:47:51,174 --> 00:47:54,210
  4337. that Landay and Strobel
  4338. just can't get.
  4339.  
  4340. 933
  4341. 00:47:54,212 --> 00:47:55,611
  4342. I'll make it easy on you.
  4343.  
  4344. 934
  4345. 00:47:55,613 --> 00:47:57,413
  4346. I'll give you a column...
  4347.  
  4348. 935
  4349. 00:47:57,415 --> 00:48:01,449
  4350. and your name doesn't have to
  4351. appear on anything else.
  4352.  
  4353. 936
  4354. 00:48:01,451 --> 00:48:04,286
  4355. Whatever else you want to write
  4356. on the side, you can...
  4357.  
  4358. 937
  4359. 00:48:04,288 --> 00:48:06,554
  4360. and of course, there won't be
  4361. any glory, but...
  4362.  
  4363. 938
  4364. 00:48:06,556 --> 00:48:08,727
  4365. Glory's for young men.
  4366.  
  4367. 939
  4368. 00:48:11,361 --> 00:48:13,462
  4369. Let me percolate on it.
  4370.  
  4371. 940
  4372. 00:48:13,464 --> 00:48:15,531
  4373. <i>Let me turn to the issue
  4374. of Iraq.</i>
  4375.  
  4376. 941
  4377. 00:48:15,533 --> 00:48:18,567
  4378. <i>You have said that it poses...</i>
  4379.  
  4380. 942
  4381. 00:48:18,569 --> 00:48:20,803
  4382. <i>a mortal threat to the
  4383. United States.</i>
  4384.  
  4385. 943
  4386. 00:48:20,805 --> 00:48:24,406
  4387. <i>How? Define "mortal threat."</i>
  4388.  
  4389. 944
  4390. 00:48:24,408 --> 00:48:29,210
  4391. <i>Well, this'll take some time,
  4392. but it's important for us...</i>
  4393.  
  4394. 945
  4395. 00:48:29,212 --> 00:48:31,112
  4396. <i>as I mentioned earlier...</i>
  4397.  
  4398. 946
  4399. 00:48:31,114 --> 00:48:34,049
  4400. <i>to remember that the world
  4401. has changed, that prior to...</i>
  4402.  
  4403. 947
  4404. 00:48:34,051 --> 00:48:35,784
  4405. I'd forgotten the world
  4406. had changed.
  4407.  
  4408. 948
  4409. 00:48:35,786 --> 00:48:37,719
  4410. So did I. I'm so happy he
  4411. mentioned that.
  4412.  
  4413. 949
  4414. 00:48:37,721 --> 00:48:41,357
  4415. <i>What, specifically, has he
  4416. obtained that you believe...</i>
  4417.  
  4418. 950
  4419. 00:48:41,359 --> 00:48:43,792
  4420. <i>would enhance his nuclear
  4421. development program?</i>
  4422.  
  4423. 951
  4424. 00:48:43,794 --> 00:48:45,828
  4425. <i>Well, in the nuclear weapons
  4426. arena...</i>
  4427.  
  4428. 952
  4429. 00:48:45,830 --> 00:48:48,630
  4430. <i>you've got specifically
  4431. aluminum tubes.</i>
  4432.  
  4433. 953
  4434. 00:48:48,632 --> 00:48:50,399
  4435. <i>There's a story in The New York
  4436. Times this morning...</i>
  4437.  
  4438. 954
  4439. 00:48:50,401 --> 00:48:53,502
  4440. <i>this is and I want to attribute
  4441. to The Times.</i>
  4442.  
  4443. 955
  4444. 00:48:53,504 --> 00:48:55,437
  4445. <i>I don't want to talk about,
  4446. obviously...</i>
  4447.  
  4448. 956
  4449. 00:48:55,439 --> 00:48:58,607
  4450. <i>specific intelligence sources,
  4451. but it's now public that...</i>
  4452.  
  4453. 957
  4454. 00:48:58,609 --> 00:49:03,645
  4455. <i>in fact he has been seeking to
  4456. acquire, and we have been...</i>
  4457.  
  4458. 958
  4459. 00:49:03,647 --> 00:49:06,449
  4460. <i>able to intercept and prevent
  4461. him from acquiring...</i>
  4462.  
  4463. 959
  4464. 00:49:06,451 --> 00:49:08,150
  4465. <i>through this particular
  4466. channel...</i>
  4467.  
  4468. 960
  4469. 00:49:08,152 --> 00:49:10,286
  4470. <i>the kinds of tubes that are
  4471. necessary...</i>
  4472.  
  4473. 961
  4474. 00:49:10,288 --> 00:49:12,087
  4475. <i>to build a centrifuge.</i>
  4476.  
  4477. 962
  4478. 00:49:12,089 --> 00:49:15,123
  4479. <i>And the centrifuge is required
  4480. to take low-grade uranium...</i>
  4481.  
  4482. 963
  4483. 00:49:15,125 --> 00:49:18,560
  4484. <i>and enhance it into highly
  4485. enriched uranium...</i>
  4486.  
  4487. 964
  4488. 00:49:18,562 --> 00:49:21,330
  4489. <i>which is what you have to have
  4490. in order to build a bomb.</i>
  4491.  
  4492. 965
  4493. 00:49:21,332 --> 00:49:23,866
  4494. Lucky for him, someone leaked
  4495. that to The Times.
  4496.  
  4497. 966
  4498. 00:49:23,868 --> 00:49:27,169
  4499. Avoids the pesky nuisance
  4500. of being arrested...
  4501.  
  4502. 967
  4503. 00:49:27,171 --> 00:49:28,804
  4504. for revealing classified
  4505. information.
  4506.  
  4507. 968
  4508. 00:49:28,806 --> 00:49:30,839
  4509. One can only wonder how Judy
  4510. Miller and Michael Gordon...
  4511.  
  4512. 969
  4513. 00:49:30,841 --> 00:49:31,873
  4514. got that information.
  4515.  
  4516. 970
  4517. 00:49:31,875 --> 00:49:35,578
  4518. <i>Does it bother you, bug you...</i>
  4519.  
  4520. 971
  4521. 00:49:35,580 --> 00:49:38,714
  4522. <i>that you have not captured
  4523. Osama bin Laden in over a year?</i>
  4524.  
  4525. 972
  4526. 00:49:38,716 --> 00:49:45,453
  4527. <i>I'd like to see him on
  4528. television in handcuffs...</i>
  4529.  
  4530. 973
  4531. 00:49:45,455 --> 00:49:47,489
  4532. <i>if I can put it
  4533. into those terms.</i>
  4534.  
  4535. 974
  4536. 00:49:47,491 --> 00:49:49,458
  4537. <i>I think all of us would.</i>
  4538.  
  4539. 975
  4540. 00:49:49,460 --> 00:49:53,228
  4541. <i>But I don't lay awake at night
  4542. concerned about that.</i>
  4543.  
  4544. 976
  4545. 00:49:53,230 --> 00:49:55,563
  4546. <i>There's one school of thought
  4547. that says he's already dead.</i>
  4548.  
  4549. 977
  4550. 00:49:55,565 --> 00:49:57,165
  4551. <i>We haven't heard anything
  4552. of him in many months.</i>
  4553.  
  4554. 978
  4555. 00:49:57,167 --> 00:49:58,533
  4556. RUSSERT: <i>What do you think?</i>
  4557.  
  4558. 979
  4559. 00:49:58,535 --> 00:49:59,634
  4560. <i>I don't know, I really
  4561. don't know.</i>
  4562.  
  4563. 980
  4564. 00:49:59,636 --> 00:50:01,569
  4565. <i>I can argue it round or flat.</i>
  4566.  
  4567. 981
  4568. 00:50:01,571 --> 00:50:04,172
  4569. I didn't know we were still
  4570. debating the shape of the earth.
  4571.  
  4572. 982
  4573. 00:50:04,174 --> 00:50:06,143
  4574. I've got sources on both sides.
  4575.  
  4576. 983
  4577. 00:50:08,212 --> 00:50:10,645
  4578. <i>But the U.S. military would be
  4579. enormously effective...</i>
  4580.  
  4581. 984
  4582. 00:50:10,647 --> 00:50:12,515
  4583. <i>in this circumstance.</i>
  4584.  
  4585. 985
  4586. 00:50:12,517 --> 00:50:15,451
  4587. <i>And I don't think it would be
  4588. that tough a fight.</i>
  4589.  
  4590. 986
  4591. 00:50:15,453 --> 00:50:17,386
  4592. <i>That is, I don't think there's
  4593. any question...</i>
  4594.  
  4595. 987
  4596. 00:50:17,388 --> 00:50:19,221
  4597. <i>that we would prevail and we
  4598. would achieve our objective.</i>
  4599.  
  4600. 988
  4601. 00:50:19,223 --> 00:50:21,656
  4602. Landay.
  4603.  
  4604. 989
  4605. 00:50:21,658 --> 00:50:24,292
  4606. Yeah?
  4607.  
  4608. 990
  4609. 00:50:24,294 --> 00:50:26,630
  4610. We are right, aren't we?
  4611.  
  4612. 991
  4613. 00:50:28,866 --> 00:50:30,835
  4614. Everybody, listen up.
  4615.  
  4616. 992
  4617. 00:50:34,839 --> 00:50:36,808
  4618. We're not NBC.
  4619.  
  4620. 993
  4621. 00:50:38,276 --> 00:50:40,341
  4622. We're not ABC. We're not CBS.
  4623.  
  4624. 994
  4625. 00:50:40,343 --> 00:50:43,347
  4626. We're not FOX. We're not CNN.
  4627.  
  4628. 995
  4629. 00:50:44,482 --> 00:50:46,582
  4630. We're not The New York Times.
  4631.  
  4632. 996
  4633. 00:50:46,584 --> 00:50:48,553
  4634. We're not The Washington Post.
  4635.  
  4636. 997
  4637. 00:50:50,453 --> 00:50:52,423
  4638. We are Knight Ridder.
  4639.  
  4640. 998
  4641. 00:50:56,527 --> 00:51:02,598
  4642. We have readers who live in
  4643. towns with military bases.
  4644.  
  4645. 999
  4646. 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,335
  4647. Fort Benning, Fort Bragg,
  4648. Fort Jackson...
  4649.  
  4650. 1000
  4651. 00:51:06,337 --> 00:51:12,674
  4652. and over 40 other military bases
  4653. throughout this country.
  4654.  
  4655. 1001
  4656. 00:51:12,676 --> 00:51:17,446
  4657. If every other news organization
  4658. wants to be stenographers...
  4659.  
  4660. 1002
  4661. 00:51:17,448 --> 00:51:20,518
  4662. for the Bush administration,
  4663. let them.
  4664.  
  4665. 1003
  4666. 00:51:22,786 --> 00:51:26,658
  4667. We don't write for people who
  4668. send other people's kids to war.
  4669.  
  4670. 1004
  4671. 00:51:28,725 --> 00:51:33,198
  4672. We write for people
  4673. whose kids get sent to war.
  4674.  
  4675. 1005
  4676. 00:51:35,866 --> 00:51:38,333
  4677. So, when the government
  4678. says something...
  4679.  
  4680. 1006
  4681. 00:51:38,335 --> 00:51:40,839
  4682. you only have one question
  4683. to ask.
  4684.  
  4685. 1007
  4686. 00:51:44,341 --> 00:51:46,277
  4687. Is it true?
  4688.  
  4689. 1008
  4690. 00:51:52,450 --> 00:51:54,386
  4691. I'm through percolating.
  4692.  
  4693. 1009
  4694. 00:51:57,488 --> 00:51:59,420
  4695. Let's get to work.
  4696.  
  4697. 1010
  4698. 00:51:59,422 --> 00:52:01,690
  4699. Administration officials spanned
  4700. out on the Sunday talk shows...
  4701.  
  4702. 1011
  4703. 00:52:01,692 --> 00:52:03,926
  4704. to make the case for an invasion
  4705. of Iraq.
  4706.  
  4707. 1012
  4708. 00:52:03,928 --> 00:52:06,895
  4709. Who else is involved in
  4710. The Office of Special Planning?
  4711.  
  4712. 1013
  4713. 00:52:06,897 --> 00:52:10,598
  4714. Wolfowitz, Feith, couple others.
  4715.  
  4716. 1014
  4717. 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,967
  4718. Instead of listening to people
  4719. who have spent their careers...
  4720.  
  4721. 1015
  4722. 00:52:12,969 --> 00:52:16,804
  4723. evaluating threats, they're
  4724. streaming questionable intel...
  4725.  
  4726. 1016
  4727. 00:52:16,806 --> 00:52:18,707
  4728. from unreliable sources and
  4729. taking it...
  4730.  
  4731. 1017
  4732. 00:52:18,709 --> 00:52:20,509
  4733. directly to the White House.
  4734.  
  4735. 1018
  4736. 00:52:20,511 --> 00:52:22,745
  4737. <i>George Tenet, Director
  4738. of Central Intelligence...</i>
  4739.  
  4740. 1019
  4741. 00:52:22,747 --> 00:52:25,346
  4742. <i>told Senators, he could not
  4743. rule out cooperation...</i>
  4744.  
  4745. 1020
  4746. 00:52:25,348 --> 00:52:26,617
  4747. <i>between Osama bin Laden
  4748. and Al Qaeda.</i>
  4749.  
  4750. 1021
  4751. 00:52:29,386 --> 00:52:31,587
  4752. I've seen the specs on those
  4753. aluminum tubes.
  4754.  
  4755. 1022
  4756. 00:52:31,589 --> 00:52:33,621
  4757. They're too small to be used
  4758. for enriching uranium.
  4759.  
  4760. 1023
  4761. 00:52:33,623 --> 00:52:35,024
  4762. What does that mean?
  4763.  
  4764. 1024
  4765. 00:52:35,026 --> 00:52:36,792
  4766. They can't be used
  4767. for a nuclear bomb.
  4768.  
  4769. 1025
  4770. 00:52:36,794 --> 00:52:38,594
  4771. REPORTER: <i>The President
  4772. of the United States...</i>
  4773.  
  4774. 1026
  4775. 00:52:38,596 --> 00:52:39,928
  4776. <i>said we're not going to permit
  4777. nations to develop...</i>
  4778.  
  4779. 1027
  4780. 00:52:39,930 --> 00:52:41,897
  4781. <i>weapons of mass destruction...</i>
  4782.  
  4783. 1028
  4784. 00:52:41,899 --> 00:52:43,699
  4785. <i>as they're gonna supply those
  4786. weapons to a network...</i>
  4787.  
  4788. 1029
  4789. 00:52:43,701 --> 00:52:45,366
  4790. <i>of terrorism that could attack
  4791. the United States.</i>
  4792.  
  4793. 1030
  4794. 00:52:45,368 --> 00:52:47,870
  4795. Cheney is trying to shut
  4796. out Powell.
  4797.  
  4798. 1031
  4799. 00:52:47,872 --> 00:52:49,471
  4800. Where'd you get this stuff?
  4801.  
  4802. 1032
  4803. 00:52:49,473 --> 00:52:51,339
  4804. Old friend.
  4805.  
  4806. 1033
  4807. 00:52:51,341 --> 00:52:53,375
  4808. REPORTER: <i>We're starting to
  4809. see a consensus from within...</i>
  4810.  
  4811. 1034
  4812. 00:52:53,377 --> 00:52:55,377
  4813. <i>the administration for the
  4814. removal of Saddam Hussein.</i>
  4815.  
  4816. 1035
  4817. 00:52:55,379 --> 00:52:57,379
  4818. COMMENTATOR: <i>The
  4819. administration has pointed...</i>
  4820.  
  4821. 1036
  4822. 00:52:57,381 --> 00:52:59,681
  4823. <i>to a secret meeting in Prague
  4824. between Iraqi intelligence...</i>
  4825.  
  4826. 1037
  4827. 00:52:59,683 --> 00:53:01,449
  4828. <i>and 9/11 hijacker,
  4829. Mohamed Atta.</i>
  4830.  
  4831. 1038
  4832. 00:53:01,451 --> 00:53:03,419
  4833. <i>Bush administration is pressing
  4834. the United Nations...</i>
  4835.  
  4836. 1039
  4837. 00:53:03,421 --> 00:53:05,554
  4838. <i>Security Council for
  4839. a resolution...</i>
  4840.  
  4841. 1040
  4842. 00:53:05,556 --> 00:53:07,455
  4843. <i>to put pressure on Iraq.</i>
  4844.  
  4845. 1041
  4846. 00:53:07,457 --> 00:53:09,424
  4847. <i>President Bush will address
  4848. the United Nations today...</i>
  4849.  
  4850. 1042
  4851. 00:53:09,426 --> 00:53:11,759
  4852. <i>in hopes of putting together
  4853. a multi-national coalition...</i>
  4854.  
  4855. 1043
  4856. 00:53:11,761 --> 00:53:13,594
  4857. <i>to disarm Saddam Hussein.</i>
  4858.  
  4859. 1044
  4860. 00:53:13,596 --> 00:53:15,698
  4861. <i>The White House is lobbying
  4862. Congress to authorize...</i>
  4863.  
  4864. 1045
  4865. 00:53:15,700 --> 00:53:17,799
  4866. <i>the use of force in Iraq.</i>
  4867.  
  4868. 1046
  4869. 00:53:17,801 --> 00:53:19,868
  4870. The minute these guys get
  4871. their hands on anything...
  4872.  
  4873. 1047
  4874. 00:53:19,870 --> 00:53:21,536
  4875. remotely resembling evidence...
  4876.  
  4877. 1048
  4878. 00:53:21,538 --> 00:53:23,471
  4879. they leak it to
  4880. The New York Times.
  4881.  
  4882. 1049
  4883. 00:53:23,473 --> 00:53:24,873
  4884. Now, I understand the position
  4885. you're in...
  4886.  
  4887. 1050
  4888. 00:53:24,875 --> 00:53:27,509
  4889. but please don't hang up on me.
  4890.  
  4891. 1051
  4892. 00:53:27,511 --> 00:53:28,976
  4893. LOOSE NUKES: <i>Okay.</i>
  4894.  
  4895. 1052
  4896. 00:53:28,978 --> 00:53:32,547
  4897. Okay, the vice president
  4898. of the United States...
  4899.  
  4900. 1053
  4901. 00:53:32,549 --> 00:53:35,984
  4902. went to the V.F.W. and said that
  4903. Saddam Hussein...
  4904.  
  4905. 1054
  4906. 00:53:35,986 --> 00:53:38,953
  4907. is on the threshold of
  4908. developing a nuclear weapon.
  4909.  
  4910. 1055
  4911. 00:53:38,955 --> 00:53:41,556
  4912. Then he goes on national
  4913. television...
  4914.  
  4915. 1056
  4916. 00:53:41,558 --> 00:53:42,790
  4917. and says the same thing.
  4918.  
  4919. 1057
  4920. 00:53:42,792 --> 00:53:46,060
  4921. <i>Your question?</i>
  4922.  
  4923. 1058
  4924. 00:53:46,062 --> 00:53:49,498
  4925. Ask the question.
  4926.  
  4927. 1059
  4928. 00:53:49,500 --> 00:53:52,533
  4929. What I want to know is,
  4930. is Dick Cheney ignoring...
  4931.  
  4932. 1060
  4933. 00:53:52,535 --> 00:53:55,103
  4934. good intelligence that
  4935. contradicts his assumptions...
  4936.  
  4937. 1061
  4938. 00:53:55,105 --> 00:53:59,074
  4939. or is he just getting bad
  4940. intelligence?
  4941.  
  4942. 1062
  4943. 00:53:59,076 --> 00:54:02,681
  4944. <i>The vice president is lying.</i>
  4945.  
  4946. 1063
  4947. 00:54:04,881 --> 00:54:06,781
  4948. Thank you, thank you so much.
  4949.  
  4950. 1064
  4951. 00:54:06,783 --> 00:54:09,051
  4952. What? What, what, what?
  4953. What'd she say?
  4954.  
  4955. 1065
  4956. 00:54:09,053 --> 00:54:10,786
  4957. He's lying.
  4958.  
  4959. 1066
  4960. 00:54:10,788 --> 00:54:12,788
  4961. - He's lying.
  4962. - Cheney is lying.
  4963.  
  4964. 1067
  4965. 00:54:12,790 --> 00:54:14,989
  4966. - Cheney's lying!
  4967. - Cheney's lying!
  4968.  
  4969. 1068
  4970. 00:54:14,991 --> 00:54:17,525
  4971. - He's lying! John!
  4972. - He's lying!
  4973.  
  4974. 1069
  4975. 00:54:17,527 --> 00:54:19,627
  4976. John!
  4977.  
  4978. 1070
  4979. 00:54:19,629 --> 00:54:20,862
  4980. Where the hell is he?
  4981.  
  4982. 1071
  4983. 00:54:20,864 --> 00:54:22,531
  4984. Here we go. Here we go.
  4985.  
  4986. 1072
  4987. 00:54:22,533 --> 00:54:24,466
  4988. - He's lying.
  4989. - He's lying.
  4990.  
  4991. 1073
  4992. 00:54:24,468 --> 00:54:26,435
  4993. Cheney's lying.
  4994.  
  4995. 1074
  4996. 00:54:26,437 --> 00:54:27,870
  4997. Where did this come from?
  4998.  
  4999. 1075
  5000. 00:54:27,872 --> 00:54:29,538
  5001. Loose Nukes.
  5002.  
  5003. 1076
  5004. 00:54:29,540 --> 00:54:31,440
  5005. Okay.
  5006.  
  5007. 1077
  5008. 00:54:31,442 --> 00:54:33,808
  5009. Now, we know what's being talk
  5010. about, we got to get inside...
  5011.  
  5012. 1078
  5013. 00:54:33,810 --> 00:54:36,812
  5014. those meetings and find out if
  5015. there's a dissenting opinion.
  5016.  
  5017. 1079
  5018. 00:54:36,814 --> 00:54:38,614
  5019. I may have a guy.
  5020.  
  5021. 1080
  5022. 00:54:38,616 --> 00:54:40,047
  5023. Anybody we know?
  5024.  
  5025. 1081
  5026. 00:54:40,049 --> 00:54:41,652
  5027. The Usual Suspect.
  5028.  
  5029. 1082
  5030. 00:54:52,897 --> 00:54:54,862
  5031. You didn't want to do
  5032. this in a parking garage?
  5033.  
  5034. 1083
  5035. 00:54:54,864 --> 00:54:57,498
  5036. If there was one that served
  5037. Pad Thai, I would.
  5038.  
  5039. 1084
  5040. 00:54:57,500 --> 00:54:59,902
  5041. How's civilian life?
  5042.  
  5043. 1085
  5044. 00:54:59,904 --> 00:55:02,504
  5045. My retirement lasted about
  5046. four hours.
  5047.  
  5048. 1086
  5049. 00:55:02,506 --> 00:55:04,205
  5050. You're with Knight Ridder?
  5051.  
  5052. 1087
  5053. 00:55:04,207 --> 00:55:06,574
  5054. I don't even have a desk yet.
  5055. How the hell do you know that?
  5056.  
  5057. 1088
  5058. 00:55:06,576 --> 00:55:08,076
  5059. I have my ways.
  5060.  
  5061. 1089
  5062. 00:55:08,078 --> 00:55:09,944
  5063. You been following what we're
  5064. doing over there?
  5065.  
  5066. 1090
  5067. 00:55:09,946 --> 00:55:11,179
  5068. Yes, I have.
  5069.  
  5070. 1091
  5071. 00:55:11,181 --> 00:55:12,681
  5072. And?
  5073.  
  5074. 1092
  5075. 00:55:12,683 --> 00:55:14,449
  5076. You two may be singlehandedly
  5077. saving...
  5078.  
  5079. 1093
  5080. 00:55:14,451 --> 00:55:17,553
  5081. the Fourth Estate from
  5082. extinction.
  5083.  
  5084. 1094
  5085. 00:55:17,555 --> 00:55:20,221
  5086. Mainstream media hasn't picked
  5087. up a thing we been running.
  5088.  
  5089. 1095
  5090. 00:55:20,223 --> 00:55:21,857
  5091. Should be all the confirmation
  5092. you need...
  5093.  
  5094. 1096
  5095. 00:55:21,859 --> 00:55:23,094
  5096. that you're onto something.
  5097.  
  5098. 1097
  5099. 00:55:26,062 --> 00:55:28,696
  5100. What can I do for you?
  5101.  
  5102. 1098
  5103. 00:55:28,698 --> 00:55:30,732
  5104. We need some help with the
  5105. higher ups.
  5106.  
  5107. 1099
  5108. 00:55:30,734 --> 00:55:31,732
  5109. How high?
  5110.  
  5111. 1100
  5112. 00:55:31,734 --> 00:55:33,469
  5113. High as you can get us.
  5114.  
  5115. 1101
  5116. 00:55:33,471 --> 00:55:35,170
  5117. You've been around a long time,
  5118. Joe.
  5119.  
  5120. 1102
  5121. 00:55:35,172 --> 00:55:37,672
  5122. I doubt there's anything there
  5123. that'll surprise you.
  5124.  
  5125. 1103
  5126. 00:55:37,674 --> 00:55:39,475
  5127. I was married one time
  5128. to a woman who thought...
  5129.  
  5130. 1104
  5131. 00:55:39,477 --> 00:55:41,643
  5132. New Hampshire was the capital
  5133. of Massachusetts.
  5134.  
  5135. 1105
  5136. 00:55:41,645 --> 00:55:44,612
  5137. There's always something you
  5138. don't see coming.
  5139.  
  5140. 1106
  5141. 00:55:44,614 --> 00:55:47,949
  5142. What do you want to know?
  5143.  
  5144. 1107
  5145. 00:55:47,951 --> 00:55:51,053
  5146. Everything the administration
  5147. doesn't want us to know.
  5148.  
  5149. 1108
  5150. 00:55:51,055 --> 00:55:54,459
  5151. You and I are going to be eating
  5152. a lot of Pad Thai.
  5153.  
  5154. 1109
  5155. 00:55:59,497 --> 00:56:01,496
  5156. What kind of time frame
  5157. are we looking at?
  5158.  
  5159. 1110
  5160. 00:56:01,498 --> 00:56:02,897
  5161. Next month, Congress
  5162. is scheduled to vote...
  5163.  
  5164. 1111
  5165. 00:56:02,899 --> 00:56:04,165
  5166. on whether or not to give
  5167. the president...
  5168.  
  5169. 1112
  5170. 00:56:04,167 --> 00:56:05,868
  5171. the authorization to go to war.
  5172.  
  5173. 1113
  5174. 00:56:05,870 --> 00:56:06,935
  5175. Are the votes there?
  5176.  
  5177. 1114
  5178. 00:56:06,937 --> 00:56:08,603
  5179. The administration thinks so.
  5180.  
  5181. 1115
  5182. 00:56:08,605 --> 00:56:14,009
  5183. Mr. President, 38 years ago,
  5184. I, Robert C. Byrd...
  5185.  
  5186. 1116
  5187. 00:56:14,011 --> 00:56:17,612
  5188. voted on the Tonkin Gulf
  5189. Resolution.
  5190.  
  5191. 1117
  5192. 00:56:17,614 --> 00:56:21,149
  5193. The resolution that authorized
  5194. the president to use military...
  5195.  
  5196. 1118
  5197. 00:56:21,151 --> 00:56:23,150
  5198. force to repel armed attacks...
  5199.  
  5200. 1119
  5201. 00:56:23,152 --> 00:56:27,589
  5202. and to prevent further communist
  5203. aggression in Southeast Asia.
  5204.  
  5205. 1120
  5206. 00:56:27,591 --> 00:56:31,225
  5207. A joint resolution to authorize
  5208. the use of United States...
  5209.  
  5210. 1121
  5211. 00:56:31,227 --> 00:56:34,730
  5212. armed forces against Iraq should
  5213. be brought to a close.
  5214.  
  5215. 1122
  5216. 00:56:34,732 --> 00:56:36,931
  5217. The clerk will call the roll.
  5218.  
  5219. 1123
  5220. 00:56:36,933 --> 00:56:39,134
  5221. CLERK: <i>Mr. Biden, aye.</i>
  5222.  
  5223. 1124
  5224. 00:56:39,136 --> 00:56:41,169
  5225. <i>Mrs. Clinton, aye.</i>
  5226.  
  5227. 1125
  5228. 00:56:41,171 --> 00:56:43,638
  5229. It was this resolution that
  5230. provided the basis...
  5231.  
  5232. 1126
  5233. 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:47,542
  5234. for American involvement
  5235. in the war in Vietnam.
  5236.  
  5237. 1127
  5238. 00:56:47,544 --> 00:56:49,877
  5239. <i>Mr. Kerry, aye.</i>
  5240.  
  5241. 1128
  5242. 00:56:49,879 --> 00:56:52,047
  5243. <i>Mr. Lieberman, aye.</i>
  5244.  
  5245. 1129
  5246. 00:56:52,049 --> 00:56:54,016
  5247. <i>Mr. Lott, aye.</i>
  5248.  
  5249. 1130
  5250. 00:56:54,018 --> 00:56:55,951
  5251. It was this resolution...
  5252.  
  5253. 1131
  5254. 00:56:55,953 --> 00:57:00,989
  5255. that lead to the deaths
  5256. of 58,000 Americans.
  5257.  
  5258. 1132
  5259. 00:57:00,991 --> 00:57:03,324
  5260. <i>Mr. McCain, aye.</i>
  5261.  
  5262. 1133
  5263. 00:57:03,326 --> 00:57:05,560
  5264. <i>Mr. McConnell, aye.</i>
  5265.  
  5266. 1134
  5267. 00:57:05,562 --> 00:57:10,699
  5268. After all that carnage, we began
  5269. to learn that in voting...
  5270.  
  5271. 1135
  5272. 00:57:10,701 --> 00:57:12,768
  5273. for the Tonkin Gulf
  5274. resolution...
  5275.  
  5276. 1136
  5277. 00:57:12,770 --> 00:57:15,904
  5278. we were basing our votes
  5279. on bad information.
  5280.  
  5281. 1137
  5282. 00:57:15,906 --> 00:57:18,172
  5283. And history is repeating itself.
  5284.  
  5285. 1138
  5286. 00:57:18,174 --> 00:57:20,308
  5287. <i>Mr. Santorum, aye.</i>
  5288.  
  5289. 1139
  5290. 00:57:20,310 --> 00:57:23,679
  5291. I urge senators to go down
  5292. on the Capital Mall...
  5293.  
  5294. 1140
  5295. 00:57:23,681 --> 00:57:26,181
  5296. and look at the Vietnam
  5297. Memorial.
  5298.  
  5299. 1141
  5300. 00:57:26,183 --> 00:57:29,250
  5301. Nearly every day, you will find
  5302. someone at that wall...
  5303.  
  5304. 1142
  5305. 00:57:29,252 --> 00:57:31,587
  5306. weeping for a loved one.
  5307.  
  5308. 1143
  5309. 00:57:31,589 --> 00:57:33,654
  5310. <i>Mr. Sessions, aye.</i>
  5311.  
  5312. 1144
  5313. 00:57:33,656 --> 00:57:36,158
  5314. I will always remember the words
  5315. of Senator Wayne Morse.
  5316.  
  5317. 1145
  5318. 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,627
  5319. <i>Mr. Specter, aye.</i>
  5320.  
  5321. 1146
  5322. 00:57:38,629 --> 00:57:40,895
  5323. He stated, "The resolution will
  5324. pass and senators...
  5325.  
  5326. 1147
  5327. 00:57:40,897 --> 00:57:44,632
  5328. "who vote for it will live
  5329. to regret it."
  5330.  
  5331. 1148
  5332. 00:57:44,634 --> 00:57:46,667
  5333. We got K-10, we got Dixie,
  5334. we don't need another source.
  5335.  
  5336. 1149
  5337. 00:57:46,669 --> 00:57:48,270
  5338. You know we got this.
  5339.  
  5340. 1150
  5341. 00:57:48,272 --> 00:57:50,237
  5342. Look, when you're accusing the
  5343. secretary of defense...
  5344.  
  5345. 1151
  5346. 00:57:50,239 --> 00:57:52,107
  5347. of running a shadow
  5348. intelligence unit...
  5349.  
  5350. 1152
  5351. 00:57:52,109 --> 00:57:54,676
  5352. out of the Pentagon, it's nice
  5353. to have a little insurance.
  5354.  
  5355. 1153
  5356. 00:57:54,678 --> 00:57:55,913
  5357. That's all I'm saying.
  5358.  
  5359. 1154
  5360. 00:57:59,984 --> 00:58:02,350
  5361. All right, let's share it
  5362. with the rest of the class.
  5363.  
  5364. 1155
  5365. 00:58:02,352 --> 00:58:04,085
  5366. You want to tell them?
  5367.  
  5368. 1156
  5369. 00:58:04,087 --> 00:58:07,723
  5370. Earlier today, I was summoned
  5371. to the Pentagon.
  5372.  
  5373. 1157
  5374. 00:58:07,725 --> 00:58:09,056
  5375. By whom?
  5376.  
  5377. 1158
  5378. 00:58:09,058 --> 00:58:12,127
  5379. Rumsfeld, Ol' Limp Dick
  5380. sent a message saying...
  5381.  
  5382. 1159
  5383. 00:58:12,129 --> 00:58:13,929
  5384. "All your sources are retired
  5385. generals."
  5386.  
  5387. 1160
  5388. 00:58:13,931 --> 00:58:15,864
  5389. And I said, "All due respect,
  5390. sir...
  5391.  
  5392. 1161
  5393. 00:58:15,866 --> 00:58:18,799
  5394. "80% of my sources are
  5395. active military."
  5396.  
  5397. 1162
  5398. 00:58:18,801 --> 00:58:20,636
  5399. "Some of them are working
  5400. in this building...
  5401.  
  5402. 1163
  5403. 00:58:20,638 --> 00:58:22,837
  5404. "and some of them are actually
  5405. working on your staff."
  5406.  
  5407. 1164
  5408. 00:58:22,839 --> 00:58:25,806
  5409. "And hell, one or two of them
  5410. might even be in this room."
  5411.  
  5412. 1165
  5413. 00:58:25,808 --> 00:58:27,942
  5414. Did you actually have sources
  5415. in the room?
  5416.  
  5417. 1166
  5418. 00:58:27,944 --> 00:58:31,082
  5419. No, but it was fun watching him
  5420. sweat like whores in church.
  5421.  
  5422. 1167
  5423. 00:58:33,817 --> 00:58:35,783
  5424. How close are we to getting
  5425. something we can run with
  5426.  
  5427. 1168
  5428. 00:58:35,785 --> 00:58:37,185
  5429. on the Office of Special Plans?
  5430.  
  5431. 1169
  5432. 00:58:37,187 --> 00:58:39,020
  5433. Well, we already got...
  5434.  
  5435. 1170
  5436. 00:58:39,022 --> 00:58:41,656
  5437. No, we're just gonna check
  5438. with a couple more sources.
  5439.  
  5440. 1171
  5441. 00:58:41,658 --> 00:58:43,658
  5442. What's wrong with the sources
  5443. you have?
  5444.  
  5445. 1172
  5446. 00:58:43,660 --> 00:58:46,094
  5447. Well, we just want to be
  5448. certain.
  5449.  
  5450. 1173
  5451. 00:58:46,096 --> 00:58:49,096
  5452. You know, you sit on a story
  5453. like this, the dam bursts.
  5454.  
  5455. 1174
  5456. 00:58:49,098 --> 00:58:51,001
  5457. Let's just move on this,
  5458. okay, boys?
  5459.  
  5460. 1175
  5461. 00:58:54,904 --> 00:58:56,237
  5462. When are you gonna be finished?
  5463.  
  5464. 1176
  5465. 00:58:56,239 --> 00:59:00,243
  5466. Just a few more minutes, baby.
  5467.  
  5468. 1177
  5469. 00:59:02,846 --> 00:59:06,781
  5470. I can't sleep with the computer
  5471. light on.
  5472.  
  5473. 1178
  5474. 00:59:06,783 --> 00:59:09,219
  5475. Actually, I'm done.
  5476.  
  5477. 1179
  5478. 00:59:13,690 --> 00:59:17,025
  5479. So, what are you working on?
  5480.  
  5481. 1180
  5482. 00:59:17,027 --> 00:59:19,828
  5483. Rumsfeld has a secret Intel
  5484. group that's going...
  5485.  
  5486. 1181
  5487. 00:59:19,830 --> 00:59:24,835
  5488. around the CIA to manufacture
  5489. a case for war.
  5490.  
  5491. 1182
  5492. 00:59:29,239 --> 00:59:31,440
  5493. What the fuck, Jonathan?
  5494.  
  5495. 1183
  5496. 00:59:31,442 --> 00:59:33,107
  5497. What?
  5498.  
  5499. 1184
  5500. 00:59:33,109 --> 00:59:35,078
  5501. Have you been talking about this
  5502. on the phone?
  5503.  
  5504. 1185
  5505. 00:59:37,281 --> 00:59:38,779
  5506. Yeah, of course.
  5507.  
  5508. 1186
  5509. 00:59:38,781 --> 00:59:40,651
  5510. So, what?
  5511.  
  5512. 1187
  5513. 00:59:43,187 --> 00:59:47,188
  5514. - They will hear you.
  5515. - Vlatka.
  5516.  
  5517. 1188
  5518. 00:59:47,190 --> 00:59:49,824
  5519. You're writing about infighting
  5520. between spy agencies.
  5521.  
  5522. 1189
  5523. 00:59:49,826 --> 00:59:50,926
  5524. So?
  5525.  
  5526. 1190
  5527. 00:59:50,928 --> 00:59:53,328
  5528. They're spy agencies, Jonathan.
  5529.  
  5530. 1191
  5531. 00:59:53,330 --> 00:59:55,964
  5532. They listen to your calls,
  5533. they read your emails.
  5534.  
  5535. 1192
  5536. 00:59:55,966 --> 00:59:57,966
  5537. They probably bugged this house.
  5538.  
  5539. 1193
  5540. 00:59:57,968 --> 00:59:59,967
  5541. You're being paranoid.
  5542.  
  5543. 1194
  5544. 00:59:59,969 --> 01:00:01,335
  5545. You're being naive.
  5546.  
  5547. 1195
  5548. 01:00:01,337 --> 01:00:04,739
  5549. This isn't Yugoslavia,
  5550. this is America.
  5551.  
  5552. 1196
  5553. 01:00:04,741 --> 01:00:07,007
  5554. America has changed.
  5555.  
  5556. 1197
  5557. 01:00:07,009 --> 01:00:08,375
  5558. War is big business for them.
  5559.  
  5560. 1198
  5561. 01:00:08,377 --> 01:00:11,045
  5562. You get in their way,
  5563. they're gonna kill you.
  5564.  
  5565. 1199
  5566. 01:00:11,047 --> 01:00:15,817
  5567. Honey, you are being ridiculous.
  5568. All right? Come on.
  5569.  
  5570. 1200
  5571. 01:00:15,819 --> 01:00:19,054
  5572. Don't you get it?
  5573.  
  5574. 1201
  5575. 01:00:19,056 --> 01:00:21,890
  5576. You know what these people
  5577. are capable of?
  5578.  
  5579. 1202
  5580. 01:00:21,892 --> 01:00:24,493
  5581. You have a family!
  5582.  
  5583. 1203
  5584. 01:00:24,495 --> 01:00:28,098
  5585. Vlatka. Vlatka!
  5586.  
  5587. 1204
  5588. 01:00:32,902 --> 01:00:37,239
  5589. Oh, somebody's struggling.
  5590. What's the matter?
  5591.  
  5592. 1205
  5593. 01:00:37,241 --> 01:00:40,542
  5594. Oh, Vlatka kept me up all night.
  5595.  
  5596. 1206
  5597. 01:00:40,544 --> 01:00:42,176
  5598. All right!
  5599.  
  5600. 1207
  5601. 01:00:42,178 --> 01:00:46,047
  5602. No, not that like that. It was
  5603. conspiracy theories.
  5604.  
  5605. 1208
  5606. 01:00:46,049 --> 01:00:47,415
  5607. About what?
  5608.  
  5609. 1209
  5610. 01:00:47,417 --> 01:00:50,951
  5611. Oh... she thinks the government
  5612. is monitoring us.
  5613.  
  5614. 1210
  5615. 01:00:50,953 --> 01:00:54,124
  5616. I mean, it's ridiculous.
  5617.  
  5618. 1211
  5619. 01:00:56,225 --> 01:00:57,761
  5620. Check your email.
  5621.  
  5622. 1212
  5623. 01:01:09,906 --> 01:01:11,839
  5624. John, you got to see this.
  5625.  
  5626. 1213
  5627. 01:01:11,841 --> 01:01:14,042
  5628. Oh, hold on a second.
  5629.  
  5630. 1214
  5631. 01:01:14,044 --> 01:01:17,248
  5632. Arthur, I really don't want to
  5633. have this conversation again.
  5634.  
  5635. 1215
  5636. 01:01:19,382 --> 01:01:22,819
  5637. He hung up. What is it?
  5638.  
  5639. 1216
  5640. 01:01:30,060 --> 01:01:31,362
  5641. What do we do?
  5642.  
  5643. 1217
  5644. 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,047
  5645. - You're such a wuss.
  5646. - You're a wuss.
  5647.  
  5648. 1218
  5649. 01:01:52,049 --> 01:01:54,015
  5650. You're a much bigger wuss.
  5651.  
  5652. 1219
  5653. 01:01:54,017 --> 01:01:55,516
  5654. Shut up, will you stop it,
  5655. you're being a child.
  5656.  
  5657. 1220
  5658. 01:01:55,518 --> 01:01:57,484
  5659. - You're being a...
  5660. - Shut up!
  5661.  
  5662. 1221
  5663. 01:01:57,486 --> 01:02:00,554
  5664. REPORTER: <i>Today's UN Security
  5665. Council resolution...</i>
  5666.  
  5667. 1222
  5668. 01:02:00,556 --> 01:02:04,558
  5669. <i>can be boiled down to four
  5670. words, the clock is ticking.</i>
  5671.  
  5672. 1223
  5673. 01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:08,596
  5674. <i>Iraq's only alternative to full
  5675. compliance, President Bush...</i>
  5676.  
  5677. 1224
  5678. 01:02:08,598 --> 01:02:11,632
  5679. <i>made clear today, is
  5680. of military confrontation.</i>
  5681.  
  5682. 1225
  5683. 01:02:11,634 --> 01:02:14,902
  5684. BUSH: <i>The full disarmament of
  5685. weapons of mass destruction...</i>
  5686.  
  5687. 1226
  5688. 01:02:14,904 --> 01:02:16,471
  5689. <i>by Iraq will occur.</i>
  5690.  
  5691. 1227
  5692. 01:02:16,473 --> 01:02:22,246
  5693. <i>The only question for the Iraqi
  5694. regime is to decide how.</i>
  5695.  
  5696. 1228
  5697. 01:02:34,091 --> 01:02:35,422
  5698. Son of a bitch.
  5699.  
  5700. 1229
  5701. 01:02:35,424 --> 01:02:37,125
  5702. They beat us.
  5703.  
  5704. 1230
  5705. 01:02:37,127 --> 01:02:39,326
  5706. But they missed the whole point
  5707. of why the unit was set up.
  5708.  
  5709. 1231
  5710. 01:02:39,328 --> 01:02:40,629
  5711. It doesn't matter, they got
  5712. the scoop.
  5713.  
  5714. 1232
  5715. 01:02:40,631 --> 01:02:42,330
  5716. With what?
  5717.  
  5718. 1233
  5719. 01:02:42,332 --> 01:02:44,199
  5720. There's nothing about
  5721. cherry picking intelligence.
  5722.  
  5723. 1234
  5724. 01:02:44,201 --> 01:02:46,433
  5725. There's nothing about bypassing
  5726. other agencies.
  5727.  
  5728. 1235
  5729. 01:02:46,435 --> 01:02:48,036
  5730. We can still run ours.
  5731.  
  5732. 1236
  5733. 01:02:48,038 --> 01:02:49,337
  5734. John, no one's gonna pay
  5735. attention...
  5736.  
  5737. 1237
  5738. 01:02:49,339 --> 01:02:52,140
  5739. to a second story explaining
  5740. all that.
  5741.  
  5742. 1238
  5743. 01:02:52,142 --> 01:02:53,908
  5744. We had it.
  5745.  
  5746. 1239
  5747. 01:02:53,910 --> 01:02:55,911
  5748. Goddamn it, Walcott's gonna be
  5749. pissed.
  5750.  
  5751. 1240
  5752. 01:02:55,913 --> 01:02:58,115
  5753. Maybe he hadn't seen it yet.
  5754.  
  5755. 1241
  5756. 01:03:11,661 --> 01:03:14,462
  5757. How is it possible he hasn't
  5758. talked to us all day?
  5759.  
  5760. 1242
  5761. 01:03:14,464 --> 01:03:17,134
  5762. He's giving us the silent
  5763. treatment.
  5764.  
  5765. 1243
  5766. 01:03:20,136 --> 01:03:22,136
  5767. Oh, shit, here he comes.
  5768.  
  5769. 1244
  5770. 01:03:22,138 --> 01:03:24,307
  5771. Oh, Jesus.
  5772.  
  5773. 1245
  5774. 01:03:29,546 --> 01:03:31,549
  5775. You had the story.
  5776.  
  5777. 1246
  5778. 01:03:33,317 --> 01:03:35,319
  5779. Don't ever forget how
  5780. it feels to get beat.
  5781.  
  5782. 1247
  5783. 01:03:39,723 --> 01:03:42,156
  5784. The only information Congress
  5785. is getting...
  5786.  
  5787. 1248
  5788. 01:03:42,158 --> 01:03:44,359
  5789. is coming directly from the
  5790. administration.
  5791.  
  5792. 1249
  5793. 01:03:44,361 --> 01:03:47,194
  5794. <i>Iraq is a huge country about
  5795. the size of France...</i>
  5796.  
  5797. 1250
  5798. 01:03:47,196 --> 01:03:49,230
  5799. <i>if they want to hide their
  5800. weapons of mass destruction...</i>
  5801.  
  5802. 1251
  5803. 01:03:49,232 --> 01:03:50,998
  5804. <i>they're going to be able
  5805. to do so.</i>
  5806.  
  5807. 1252
  5808. 01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,368
  5809. They're not going to rethink
  5810. their positions...
  5811.  
  5812. 1253
  5813. 01:03:53,370 --> 01:03:56,004
  5814. unless they are provided
  5815. with independent intel.
  5816.  
  5817. 1254
  5818. 01:03:56,006 --> 01:03:58,640
  5819. <i>No one who's supported the
  5820. authorization for war...</i>
  5821.  
  5822. 1255
  5823. 01:03:58,642 --> 01:04:02,377
  5824. <i>in Congress, in Iraq, not the
  5825. president...</i>
  5826.  
  5827. 1256
  5828. 01:04:02,379 --> 01:04:06,348
  5829. <i>I am sure would go to war just
  5830. because he wants to go to war.</i>
  5831.  
  5832. 1257
  5833. 01:04:06,350 --> 01:04:09,984
  5834. Rumsfeld's been trying to sell
  5835. this idea that an Iraqi...
  5836.  
  5837. 1258
  5838. 01:04:09,986 --> 01:04:13,754
  5839. intelligence officer offered
  5840. bin Laden safe haven in '99.
  5841.  
  5842. 1259
  5843. 01:04:13,756 --> 01:04:15,290
  5844. Yeah.
  5845.  
  5846. 1260
  5847. 01:04:15,292 --> 01:04:17,525
  5848. Well, if that offer actually
  5849. had happened...
  5850.  
  5851. 1261
  5852. 01:04:17,527 --> 01:04:20,661
  5853. bin Laden would have told Saddam
  5854. to go fuck himself.
  5855.  
  5856. 1262
  5857. 01:04:20,663 --> 01:04:22,663
  5858. What do you make of the
  5859. statement made...
  5860.  
  5861. 1263
  5862. 01:04:22,665 --> 01:04:25,266
  5863. by the Iraqi government that
  5864. Iraq has no weapons...
  5865.  
  5866. 1264
  5867. 01:04:25,268 --> 01:04:27,634
  5868. of mass destruction
  5869. and is not developing?
  5870.  
  5871. 1265
  5872. 01:04:27,636 --> 01:04:29,406
  5873. They're lying.
  5874.  
  5875. 1266
  5876. 01:04:31,241 --> 01:04:32,607
  5877. Next.
  5878.  
  5879. 1267
  5880. 01:04:32,609 --> 01:04:34,208
  5881. Your daughter is lovely.
  5882.  
  5883. 1268
  5884. 01:04:34,210 --> 01:04:35,777
  5885. Well, I wish I could take
  5886. credit.
  5887.  
  5888. 1269
  5889. 01:04:35,779 --> 01:04:37,478
  5890. She gets it from her mother.
  5891.  
  5892. 1270
  5893. 01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:38,679
  5894. Dad, can I get you
  5895. anything?
  5896.  
  5897. 1271
  5898. 01:04:38,681 --> 01:04:40,515
  5899. - Oh, no, thanks, sweetie.
  5900. - Mr. Strobel?
  5901.  
  5902. 1272
  5903. 01:04:40,517 --> 01:04:42,319
  5904. - I'm fine.
  5905. - All right.
  5906.  
  5907. 1273
  5908. 01:04:45,489 --> 01:04:47,221
  5909. Just real casual.
  5910.  
  5911. 1274
  5912. 01:04:47,223 --> 01:04:48,790
  5913. Tom and I were just talking
  5914. about your latest article.
  5915.  
  5916. 1275
  5917. 01:04:48,792 --> 01:04:50,324
  5918. Oh, yeah?
  5919.  
  5920. 1276
  5921. 01:04:50,326 --> 01:04:52,092
  5922. Seems like you don't trust
  5923. politicians.
  5924.  
  5925. 1277
  5926. 01:04:52,094 --> 01:04:55,129
  5927. Well, that's a pretty solid
  5928. rule of journalism.
  5929.  
  5930. 1278
  5931. 01:04:55,131 --> 01:04:57,232
  5932. Even when they're talking
  5933. about war?
  5934.  
  5935. 1279
  5936. 01:04:57,234 --> 01:04:59,466
  5937. Especially when they're talking
  5938. about war.
  5939.  
  5940. 1280
  5941. 01:04:59,468 --> 01:05:01,569
  5942. You really believe there's
  5943. no WMD?
  5944.  
  5945. 1281
  5946. 01:05:01,571 --> 01:05:03,638
  5947. Our names are on the article.
  5948.  
  5949. 1282
  5950. 01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:05,640
  5951. They don't say that
  5952. there's no WMD.
  5953.  
  5954. 1283
  5955. 01:05:05,642 --> 01:05:07,141
  5956. They just said that the
  5957. administration...
  5958.  
  5959. 1284
  5960. 01:05:07,143 --> 01:05:08,576
  5961. hasn't offered any proof of WMD.
  5962.  
  5963. 1285
  5964. 01:05:08,578 --> 01:05:10,645
  5965. And you don't think
  5966. they'll find any?
  5967.  
  5968. 1286
  5969. 01:05:10,647 --> 01:05:13,614
  5970. No, I don't.
  5971.  
  5972. 1287
  5973. 01:05:13,616 --> 01:05:14,815
  5974. You don't know that.
  5975.  
  5976. 1288
  5977. 01:05:14,817 --> 01:05:16,551
  5978. No, we don't.
  5979.  
  5980. 1289
  5981. 01:05:16,553 --> 01:05:18,752
  5982. But before we send our kids
  5983. to their possible deaths...
  5984.  
  5985. 1290
  5986. 01:05:18,754 --> 01:05:20,487
  5987. don't you think the
  5988. administration...
  5989.  
  5990. 1291
  5991. 01:05:20,489 --> 01:05:22,390
  5992. has an obligation to provide
  5993. proof of their rationale?
  5994.  
  5995. 1292
  5996. 01:05:22,392 --> 01:05:25,560
  5997. What if that proof comes in the
  5998. form of a mushroom cloud?
  5999.  
  6000. 1293
  6001. 01:05:25,562 --> 01:05:28,730
  6002. Okay, you've been watching
  6003. Fox News again?
  6004.  
  6005. 1294
  6006. 01:05:28,732 --> 01:05:31,332
  6007. Rice, Cheney, and President Bush
  6008. have all said the same thing.
  6009.  
  6010. 1295
  6011. 01:05:31,334 --> 01:05:33,301
  6012. Oh, well, then it must be true.
  6013.  
  6014. 1296
  6015. 01:05:33,303 --> 01:05:35,270
  6016. You kids are too young
  6017. to remember...
  6018.  
  6019. 1297
  6020. 01:05:35,272 --> 01:05:37,672
  6021. how close we came to nuclear war
  6022. in '62.
  6023.  
  6024. 1298
  6025. 01:05:37,674 --> 01:05:39,540
  6026. Hell, Warren, you were born
  6027. the very day...
  6028.  
  6029. 1299
  6030. 01:05:39,542 --> 01:05:42,777
  6031. President Kennedy ordered the
  6032. blockade against Cuba.
  6033.  
  6034. 1300
  6035. 01:05:42,779 --> 01:05:45,612
  6036. The most powerful enemy we knew
  6037. was gonna put nuclear weapons...
  6038.  
  6039. 1301
  6040. 01:05:45,614 --> 01:05:47,714
  6041. 90 miles off our coast.
  6042.  
  6043. 1302
  6044. 01:05:47,716 --> 01:05:49,551
  6045. The president had to demonstrate
  6046. strength.
  6047.  
  6048. 1303
  6049. 01:05:49,553 --> 01:05:53,455
  6050. And the next day, Kennedy sent
  6051. Adlai Stevenson to the U.N...
  6052.  
  6053. 1304
  6054. 01:05:53,457 --> 01:05:55,558
  6055. to offer proof that the missiles
  6056. existed.
  6057.  
  6058. 1305
  6059. 01:05:56,759 --> 01:05:58,592
  6060. It's not just Fox News.
  6061.  
  6062. 1306
  6063. 01:05:58,594 --> 01:06:01,862
  6064. It's the Washington Post.
  6065. It's The New York Times.
  6066.  
  6067. 1307
  6068. 01:06:01,864 --> 01:06:04,799
  6069. Hell, proof is coming from every
  6070. major media outlet...
  6071.  
  6072. 1308
  6073. 01:06:04,801 --> 01:06:07,705
  6074. in the country, except yours.
  6075.  
  6076. 1309
  6077. 01:06:09,272 --> 01:06:10,804
  6078. Okay.
  6079.  
  6080. 1310
  6081. 01:06:10,806 --> 01:06:16,413
  6082. Uh, I think I forgot the
  6083. hamburger buns, excuse me.
  6084.  
  6085. 1311
  6086. 01:06:18,114 --> 01:06:20,750
  6087. I'm going to grab a beer.
  6088.  
  6089. 1312
  6090. 01:06:23,352 --> 01:06:25,121
  6091. Jesus, Dad.
  6092.  
  6093. 1313
  6094. 01:06:36,299 --> 01:06:37,464
  6095. Are you okay, bro?
  6096.  
  6097. 1314
  6098. 01:06:37,466 --> 01:06:39,069
  6099. Yeah.
  6100.  
  6101. 1315
  6102. 01:06:40,870 --> 01:06:44,172
  6103. Are we good reporters?
  6104.  
  6105. 1316
  6106. 01:06:44,174 --> 01:06:45,272
  6107. What?
  6108.  
  6109. 1317
  6110. 01:06:45,274 --> 01:06:48,208
  6111. I mean, are we doing anything...
  6112.  
  6113. 1318
  6114. 01:06:48,210 --> 01:06:49,877
  6115. other than practicing good
  6116. journalism?
  6117.  
  6118. 1319
  6119. 01:06:49,879 --> 01:06:51,913
  6120. No, we're doing exactly what
  6121. we're supposed...
  6122.  
  6123. 1320
  6124. 01:06:51,915 --> 01:06:54,449
  6125. Then, why the fuck are we
  6126. the only ones...
  6127.  
  6128. 1321
  6129. 01:06:54,451 --> 01:06:56,620
  6130. running these fucking stories?!
  6131.  
  6132. 1322
  6133. 01:07:04,527 --> 01:07:06,828
  6134. He just wanted you to see
  6135. all sides to him...
  6136.  
  6137. 1323
  6138. 01:07:06,830 --> 01:07:08,466
  6139. before you take it to the
  6140. next level.
  6141.  
  6142. 1324
  6143. 01:07:13,770 --> 01:07:15,569
  6144. <i>Almost three months ago,
  6145. the United Nations...</i>
  6146.  
  6147. 1325
  6148. 01:07:15,571 --> 01:07:17,739
  6149. <i>Security Council gave
  6150. Saddam Hussein...</i>
  6151.  
  6152. 1326
  6153. 01:07:17,741 --> 01:07:20,942
  6154. <i>his final chance to disarm.</i>
  6155.  
  6156. 1327
  6157. 01:07:20,944 --> 01:07:22,777
  6158. <i>Our intelligence officials
  6159. estimate...</i>
  6160.  
  6161. 1328
  6162. 01:07:22,779 --> 01:07:24,645
  6163. <i>that Saddam Hussein had the
  6164. materials to produce...</i>
  6165.  
  6166. 1329
  6167. 01:07:24,647 --> 01:07:27,549
  6168. What's the point of having
  6169. U.N. weapons inspections...
  6170.  
  6171. 1330
  6172. 01:07:27,551 --> 01:07:30,185
  6173. if Bush and Cheney are just
  6174. going to ignore the results?
  6175.  
  6176. 1331
  6177. 01:07:30,187 --> 01:07:33,254
  6178. Well, when you're creating
  6179. your own reality...
  6180.  
  6181. 1332
  6182. 01:07:33,256 --> 01:07:35,255
  6183. it's pretty easy to ignore
  6184. the facts.
  6185.  
  6186. 1333
  6187. 01:07:35,257 --> 01:07:37,357
  6188. And so what? Due diligence is
  6189. too inconvenient...
  6190.  
  6191. 1334
  6192. 01:07:37,359 --> 01:07:39,861
  6193. for the mainstream media
  6194. at this point?
  6195.  
  6196. 1335
  6197. 01:07:39,863 --> 01:07:41,763
  6198. When news is a profit center...
  6199.  
  6200. 1336
  6201. 01:07:41,765 --> 01:07:43,531
  6202. Access becomes currency.
  6203.  
  6204. 1337
  6205. 01:07:43,533 --> 01:07:44,668
  6206. Exactly.
  6207.  
  6208. 1338
  6209. 01:07:46,402 --> 01:07:47,634
  6210. I'm proud of you, John.
  6211.  
  6212. 1339
  6213. 01:07:47,636 --> 01:07:48,703
  6214. Why?
  6215.  
  6216. 1340
  6217. 01:07:48,705 --> 01:07:52,473
  6218. For not wavering.
  6219.  
  6220. 1341
  6221. 01:07:52,475 --> 01:07:53,841
  6222. It's got to be tough.
  6223.  
  6224. 1342
  6225. 01:07:53,843 --> 01:07:55,542
  6226. It's not that tough.
  6227.  
  6228. 1343
  6229. 01:07:55,544 --> 01:07:59,746
  6230. I know who their sources are and
  6231. I know who our sources are.
  6232.  
  6233. 1344
  6234. 01:07:59,748 --> 01:08:03,384
  6235. "Iraqi Dissidents Reassured
  6236. in a Talk with Bush...
  6237.  
  6238. 1345
  6239. 01:08:03,386 --> 01:08:06,587
  6240. "About the Post-Hussein Era."
  6241.  
  6242. 1346
  6243. 01:08:06,589 --> 01:08:07,922
  6244. By Judith Miller.
  6245.  
  6246. 1347
  6247. 01:08:07,924 --> 01:08:09,656
  6248. She'd quote a carnival
  6249. fortune teller...
  6250.  
  6251. 1348
  6252. 01:08:09,658 --> 01:08:12,426
  6253. if he was willing to say
  6254. Iraq had WMD.
  6255.  
  6256. 1349
  6257. 01:08:12,428 --> 01:08:15,230
  6258. We gotta dig into the
  6259. declassified...
  6260.  
  6261. 1350
  6262. 01:08:15,232 --> 01:08:16,597
  6263. national intelligence
  6264. estimate...
  6265.  
  6266. 1351
  6267. 01:08:16,599 --> 01:08:19,234
  6268. and find out if there are any
  6269. gems in there.
  6270.  
  6271. 1352
  6272. 01:08:19,236 --> 01:08:20,302
  6273. Yeah, I'd love to see...
  6274.  
  6275. 1353
  6276. 01:08:20,304 --> 01:08:22,770
  6277. what they redacted from the
  6278. classified version.
  6279.  
  6280. 1354
  6281. 01:08:22,772 --> 01:08:24,371
  6282. WALCOTT: Oh, what's going
  6283. on with Chalabi?
  6284.  
  6285. 1355
  6286. 01:08:24,373 --> 01:08:25,707
  6287. We're on it.
  6288.  
  6289. 1356
  6290. 01:08:25,709 --> 01:08:26,908
  6291. I'm gonna keep an eye
  6292. on my old boss.
  6293.  
  6294. 1357
  6295. 01:08:26,910 --> 01:08:28,709
  6296. - I got a feeling.
  6297. - Yeah...
  6298.  
  6299. 1358
  6300. 01:08:28,711 --> 01:08:31,714
  6301. Colin may be the last person
  6302. standing between peace and war.
  6303.  
  6304. 1359
  6305. 01:08:33,750 --> 01:08:34,919
  6306. Yeah.
  6307.  
  6308. 1360
  6309. 01:08:42,559 --> 01:08:44,461
  6310. Goddamn it!
  6311.  
  6312. 1361
  6313. 01:08:49,965 --> 01:08:51,367
  6314. Fuck!
  6315.  
  6316. 1362
  6317. 01:08:56,773 --> 01:08:58,472
  6318. ARTHUR: Angela, did the mayor
  6319. set a date...
  6320.  
  6321. 1363
  6322. 01:08:58,474 --> 01:08:59,673
  6323. for the fundraiser yet?
  6324.  
  6325. 1364
  6326. 01:08:59,675 --> 01:09:02,643
  6327. Hey, Arthur, I was totally
  6328. wrong.
  6329.  
  6330. 1365
  6331. 01:09:02,645 --> 01:09:05,545
  6332. Your head isn't literally
  6333. up your ass.
  6334.  
  6335. 1366
  6336. 01:09:05,547 --> 01:09:08,348
  6337. It's always a pleasure to see
  6338. you, John...
  6339.  
  6340. 1367
  6341. 01:09:08,350 --> 01:09:10,884
  6342. but would you please wait
  6343. outside?
  6344.  
  6345. 1368
  6346. 01:09:10,886 --> 01:09:13,387
  6347. You know, it's bad enough you're
  6348. ignoring all our work...
  6349.  
  6350. 1369
  6351. 01:09:13,389 --> 01:09:15,757
  6352. but the fact that you're running
  6353. these bullshit...
  6354.  
  6355. 1370
  6356. 01:09:15,759 --> 01:09:19,326
  6357. Judy Miller pieces is
  6358. unconscionable.
  6359.  
  6360. 1371
  6361. 01:09:19,328 --> 01:09:20,727
  6362. Not in here, John.
  6363. Okay, please?
  6364.  
  6365. 1372
  6366. 01:09:20,729 --> 01:09:24,632
  6367. Let's take it in my office.
  6368. Excuse me.
  6369.  
  6370. 1373
  6371. 01:09:24,634 --> 01:09:26,801
  6372. Jesus.
  6373.  
  6374. 1374
  6375. 01:09:26,803 --> 01:09:28,569
  6376. Look, as painful as this
  6377. might seem...
  6378.  
  6379. 1375
  6380. 01:09:28,571 --> 01:09:30,370
  6381. I don't answer to you, John.
  6382.  
  6383. 1376
  6384. 01:09:30,372 --> 01:09:32,539
  6385. Yes, as evidenced by the fact
  6386. that you still have a job.
  6387.  
  6388. 1377
  6389. 01:09:32,541 --> 01:09:34,642
  6390. You know what, my responsibility
  6391. is to my readers.
  6392.  
  6393. 1378
  6394. 01:09:34,644 --> 01:09:36,311
  6395. They're citizens who are
  6396. patriots...
  6397.  
  6398. 1379
  6399. 01:09:36,313 --> 01:09:37,978
  6400. they're citizens who support
  6401. our troops.
  6402.  
  6403. 1380
  6404. 01:09:37,980 --> 01:09:40,080
  6405. And how do you do that, Arthur?
  6406.  
  6407. 1381
  6408. 01:09:40,082 --> 01:09:42,650
  6409. By going down on
  6410. The New York Times?
  6411.  
  6412. 1382
  6413. 01:09:42,652 --> 01:09:44,552
  6414. I don't have time for this.
  6415.  
  6416. 1383
  6417. 01:09:44,554 --> 01:09:45,986
  6418. No, you don't have time.
  6419.  
  6420. 1384
  6421. 01:09:45,988 --> 01:09:47,554
  6422. You don't have time.
  6423.  
  6424. 1385
  6425. 01:09:47,556 --> 01:09:48,955
  6426. You know, one day,
  6427. The New York Times...
  6428.  
  6429. 1386
  6430. 01:09:48,957 --> 01:09:50,792
  6431. is going to apologize
  6432. to its readers.
  6433.  
  6434. 1387
  6435. 01:09:50,794 --> 01:09:54,529
  6436. And when that day comes, are you
  6437. gonna write your own apology?
  6438.  
  6439. 1388
  6440. 01:09:54,531 --> 01:09:56,931
  6441. Or are you just going to run
  6442. theirs?
  6443.  
  6444. 1389
  6445. 01:09:56,933 --> 01:09:58,868
  6446. Have a nice day, John.
  6447.  
  6448. 1390
  6449. 01:10:01,403 --> 01:10:03,338
  6450. <i>It is beginning to look more
  6451. and more as though...</i>
  6452.  
  6453. 1391
  6454. 01:10:03,340 --> 01:10:05,539
  6455. <i>war with Iraq is inevitable.</i>
  6456.  
  6457. 1392
  6458. 01:10:05,541 --> 01:10:08,543
  6459. <i>The Showdown with Iraq and the
  6460. countdown to a speech...</i>
  6461.  
  6462. 1393
  6463. 01:10:08,545 --> 01:10:10,744
  6464. <i>by Secretary of State
  6465. Colin Powell...</i>
  6466.  
  6467. 1394
  6468. 01:10:10,746 --> 01:10:12,946
  6469. <i>that could move the world
  6470. closer to war.</i>
  6471.  
  6472. 1395
  6473. 01:10:12,948 --> 01:10:15,415
  6474. <i>There's not much left for the
  6475. soldiers to do but wait...</i>
  6476.  
  6477. 1396
  6478. 01:10:15,417 --> 01:10:18,886
  6479. <i>for orders to attack, Ryan
  6480. Chillcoat reports...</i>
  6481.  
  6482. 1397
  6483. 01:10:18,888 --> 01:10:21,888
  6484. That's so frustrating.
  6485.  
  6486. 1398
  6487. 01:10:21,890 --> 01:10:23,794
  6488. I don't know that I could
  6489. do what you do.
  6490.  
  6491. 1399
  6492. 01:10:25,929 --> 01:10:27,462
  6493. You know, I once got it
  6494. in my head...
  6495.  
  6496. 1400
  6497. 01:10:27,464 --> 01:10:29,530
  6498. that I should hike the
  6499. Appalachian Trail.
  6500.  
  6501. 1401
  6502. 01:10:29,532 --> 01:10:31,766
  6503. Thought that it would just be a
  6504. good challenge for myself.
  6505.  
  6506. 1402
  6507. 01:10:31,768 --> 01:10:35,372
  6508. Then I look at it on a map
  6509. and it's like 2200 miles.
  6510.  
  6511. 1403
  6512. 01:10:37,573 --> 01:10:39,374
  6513. I realized...
  6514.  
  6515. 1404
  6516. 01:10:39,376 --> 01:10:40,975
  6517. That it would take a lifetime?
  6518.  
  6519. 1405
  6520. 01:10:40,977 --> 01:10:42,712
  6521. Yeah.
  6522.  
  6523. 1406
  6524. 01:10:46,148 --> 01:10:47,817
  6525. Or we could walk it together.
  6526.  
  6527. 1407
  6528. 01:10:49,885 --> 01:10:53,987
  6529. I'm gonna hold you to that.
  6530.  
  6531. 1408
  6532. 01:10:53,989 --> 01:10:55,856
  6533. REPORTER: <i>Worldwide resistance
  6534. is mounting...</i>
  6535.  
  6536. 1409
  6537. 01:10:55,858 --> 01:10:59,593
  6538. <i>against America's military
  6539. intervention into Iraq.</i>
  6540.  
  6541. 1410
  6542. 01:10:59,595 --> 01:11:02,530
  6543. <i>From US cities to Europe and
  6544. the Middle East...</i>
  6545.  
  6546. 1411
  6547. 01:11:02,532 --> 01:11:05,600
  6548. <i>demonstrators have taken to the
  6549. streets in opposition...</i>
  6550.  
  6551. 1412
  6552. 01:11:05,602 --> 01:11:08,805
  6553. <i>to the United States'
  6554. threat to invade Iraq.</i>
  6555.  
  6556. 1413
  6557. 01:11:16,446 --> 01:11:18,478
  6558. Mr. Strobel, Mr. Landay,
  6559. how do you do?
  6560.  
  6561. 1414
  6562. 01:11:18,480 --> 01:11:19,713
  6563. - Hello.
  6564. - I'm Entifadh Qanbar.
  6565.  
  6566. 1415
  6567. 01:11:19,715 --> 01:11:21,517
  6568. - Hi.
  6569. - Now, please, follow me.
  6570.  
  6571. 1416
  6572. 01:11:22,919 --> 01:11:24,518
  6573. Who's this dude?
  6574.  
  6575. 1417
  6576. 01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:29,123
  6577. Guy who used to deliver pizzas.
  6578. I'm not kidding.
  6579.  
  6580. 1418
  6581. 01:11:29,125 --> 01:11:30,892
  6582. Minister Chalabi,
  6583. Mr. Jonathan Landay...
  6584.  
  6585. 1419
  6586. 01:11:30,894 --> 01:11:34,628
  6587. and Warren Strobel from Knight
  6588. Ridder News.
  6589.  
  6590. 1420
  6591. 01:11:34,630 --> 01:11:36,864
  6592. Gentlemen, welcome.
  6593.  
  6594. 1421
  6595. 01:11:36,866 --> 01:11:40,735
  6596. Hey. Thank you for finally
  6597. agreeing to meet with us.
  6598.  
  6599. 1422
  6600. 01:11:40,737 --> 01:11:43,204
  6601. I've been very busy.
  6602.  
  6603. 1423
  6604. 01:11:43,206 --> 01:11:45,606
  6605. Talking to our competitors.
  6606.  
  6607. 1424
  6608. 01:11:45,608 --> 01:11:47,909
  6609. I speak with whomever wishes
  6610. to speak with me.
  6611.  
  6612. 1425
  6613. 01:11:47,911 --> 01:11:50,210
  6614. After all, I have nothing
  6615. to hide...
  6616.  
  6617. 1426
  6618. 01:11:50,212 --> 01:11:54,182
  6619. which is more than I can say
  6620. for Saddam.
  6621.  
  6622. 1427
  6623. 01:11:54,184 --> 01:11:55,950
  6624. Okay, well, since you brought
  6625. him up...
  6626.  
  6627. 1428
  6628. 01:11:55,952 --> 01:11:57,651
  6629. I thought we might talk
  6630. about what...
  6631.  
  6632. 1429
  6633. 01:11:57,653 --> 01:11:59,719
  6634. you know about his weapons
  6635. and how he might be hiding them.
  6636.  
  6637. 1430
  6638. 01:11:59,721 --> 01:12:05,125
  6639. He has WMD and he's hiding them,
  6640. that I know.
  6641.  
  6642. 1431
  6643. 01:12:05,127 --> 01:12:07,695
  6644. Right, and you know that how?
  6645.  
  6646. 1432
  6647. 01:12:07,697 --> 01:12:10,897
  6648. I know everything that's
  6649. happening in my country.
  6650.  
  6651. 1433
  6652. 01:12:10,899 --> 01:12:14,168
  6653. Even though Iraq hasn't been
  6654. your country for over a decade?
  6655.  
  6656. 1434
  6657. 01:12:14,170 --> 01:12:19,073
  6658. I may be an exile, but I'm still
  6659. an Iraqi.
  6660.  
  6661. 1435
  6662. 01:12:19,075 --> 01:12:21,542
  6663. Well, I think the point my
  6664. colleague is trying to make...
  6665.  
  6666. 1436
  6667. 01:12:21,544 --> 01:12:24,678
  6668. is how would you, an enemy
  6669. of Saddam, in exile...
  6670.  
  6671. 1437
  6672. 01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:27,949
  6673. have access to such valuable
  6674. information?
  6675.  
  6676. 1438
  6677. 01:12:27,951 --> 01:12:29,984
  6678. I maintain close
  6679. relationships...
  6680.  
  6681. 1439
  6682. 01:12:29,986 --> 01:12:32,152
  6683. with dissident intelligence
  6684. sources.
  6685.  
  6686. 1440
  6687. 01:12:32,154 --> 01:12:33,820
  6688. Is there a way we can
  6689. verify that?
  6690.  
  6691. 1441
  6692. 01:12:33,822 --> 01:12:35,589
  6693. No.
  6694.  
  6695. 1442
  6696. 01:12:35,591 --> 01:12:37,525
  6697. See, that's kind of a problem
  6698. for us...
  6699.  
  6700. 1443
  6701. 01:12:37,527 --> 01:12:39,060
  6702. because we can't write a story...
  6703.  
  6704. 1444
  6705. 01:12:39,062 --> 01:12:44,832
  6706. I want what America wants,
  6707. a free and democratic Iraq.
  6708.  
  6709. 1445
  6710. 01:12:44,834 --> 01:12:46,801
  6711. With you as its leader?
  6712.  
  6713. 1446
  6714. 01:12:46,803 --> 01:12:50,504
  6715. If the people of Iraq wish
  6716. for me to return, yes.
  6717.  
  6718. 1447
  6719. 01:12:50,506 --> 01:12:54,508
  6720. I want the opportunity to help
  6721. rebuild my country...
  6722.  
  6723. 1448
  6724. 01:12:54,510 --> 01:12:57,011
  6725. the way Mandela did
  6726. in South Africa.
  6727.  
  6728. 1449
  6729. 01:12:57,013 --> 01:13:01,548
  6730. But Mandela didn't ask the U.S.
  6731. to invade his country.
  6732.  
  6733. 1450
  6734. 01:13:01,550 --> 01:13:04,651
  6735. He wasn't fighting terrorists.
  6736.  
  6737. 1451
  6738. 01:13:04,653 --> 01:13:06,887
  6739. With all due respect, that's
  6740. where the red flags...
  6741.  
  6742. 1452
  6743. 01:13:06,889 --> 01:13:08,722
  6744. start to go up for us.
  6745.  
  6746. 1453
  6747. 01:13:08,724 --> 01:13:11,225
  6748. Are you implying that I've
  6749. created a false narrative...
  6750.  
  6751. 1454
  6752. 01:13:11,227 --> 01:13:12,994
  6753. for my own pursuits?
  6754.  
  6755. 1455
  6756. 01:13:12,996 --> 01:13:15,295
  6757. Is there another reason why
  6758. you'd create a false narrative?
  6759.  
  6760. 1456
  6761. 01:13:15,297 --> 01:13:18,132
  6762. I don't lie!
  6763.  
  6764. 1457
  6765. 01:13:18,134 --> 01:13:20,968
  6766. Saddam Hussein has mobile
  6767. chemical...
  6768.  
  6769. 1458
  6770. 01:13:20,970 --> 01:13:22,969
  6771. and biological weapons labs.
  6772.  
  6773. 1459
  6774. 01:13:22,971 --> 01:13:27,208
  6775. He has a nuclear program.
  6776. He has ties to terrorists.
  6777.  
  6778. 1460
  6779. 01:13:27,210 --> 01:13:30,744
  6780. And if you don't believe me,
  6781. just ask the many other...
  6782.  
  6783. 1461
  6784. 01:13:30,746 --> 01:13:32,646
  6785. defectors and hear
  6786. what they say.
  6787.  
  6788. 1462
  6789. 01:13:32,648 --> 01:13:34,682
  6790. They will all tell
  6791. you the same thing.
  6792.  
  6793. 1463
  6794. 01:13:34,684 --> 01:13:39,656
  6795. Don't they all get their
  6796. information from you?
  6797.  
  6798. 1464
  6799. 01:13:43,091 --> 01:13:46,093
  6800. If you were wondering why
  6801. it took so long for me...
  6802.  
  6803. 1465
  6804. 01:13:46,095 --> 01:13:51,865
  6805. to meet with you, it's this
  6806. smug attitude.
  6807.  
  6808. 1466
  6809. 01:13:51,867 --> 01:13:55,735
  6810. You have no intention of
  6811. reporting anything I've said.
  6812.  
  6813. 1467
  6814. 01:13:55,737 --> 01:13:58,204
  6815. Do you want us to just be your
  6816. cheerleaders?
  6817.  
  6818. 1468
  6819. 01:13:58,206 --> 01:13:59,707
  6820. All right, I think we
  6821. should go.
  6822.  
  6823. 1469
  6824. 01:13:59,709 --> 01:14:03,143
  6825. Thank you for your time.
  6826.  
  6827. 1470
  6828. 01:14:03,145 --> 01:14:07,748
  6829. Now I see why no one reads
  6830. anything you write.
  6831.  
  6832. 1471
  6833. 01:14:07,750 --> 01:14:11,319
  6834. I am an advocate for the removal
  6835. of a vicious dictator...
  6836.  
  6837. 1472
  6838. 01:14:11,321 --> 01:14:16,057
  6839. for a free Iraq, an Iraq that
  6840. will one day be a close ally...
  6841.  
  6842. 1473
  6843. 01:14:16,059 --> 01:14:20,828
  6844. to your country, to Israel, and
  6845. to all of the Western world.
  6846.  
  6847. 1474
  6848. 01:14:20,830 --> 01:14:24,164
  6849. And exactly how will this happen
  6850. after Saddam Hussein is gone?
  6851.  
  6852. 1475
  6853. 01:14:24,166 --> 01:14:25,865
  6854. All right, come on, Landay.
  6855.  
  6856. 1476
  6857. 01:14:25,867 --> 01:14:27,701
  6858. No, no, no, he says the world
  6859. will be better off...
  6860.  
  6861. 1477
  6862. 01:14:27,703 --> 01:14:29,203
  6863. but he doesn't say how.
  6864.  
  6865. 1478
  6866. 01:14:29,205 --> 01:14:31,705
  6867. How would the removal
  6868. of Saddam Hussein...
  6869.  
  6870. 1479
  6871. 01:14:31,707 --> 01:14:34,741
  6872. not plunge Iraq into a bloody
  6873. civil war?
  6874.  
  6875. 1480
  6876. 01:14:34,743 --> 01:14:36,677
  6877. Tell us something that makes
  6878. sense...
  6879.  
  6880. 1481
  6881. 01:14:36,679 --> 01:14:41,915
  6882. anything that makes sense, and
  6883. we'll write that story today.
  6884.  
  6885. 1482
  6886. 01:14:41,917 --> 01:14:43,183
  6887. You can't!
  6888.  
  6889. 1483
  6890. 01:14:43,185 --> 01:14:45,785
  6891. Because you have no
  6892. idea what happens next.
  6893.  
  6894. 1484
  6895. 01:14:45,787 --> 01:14:47,821
  6896. - And neither does anyone else.
  6897. - John. John!
  6898.  
  6899. 1485
  6900. 01:14:47,823 --> 01:14:50,758
  6901. I would rather go back and write
  6902. for my high school paper...
  6903.  
  6904. 1486
  6905. 01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:52,093
  6906. than to be used by you...
  6907.  
  6908. 1487
  6909. 01:14:52,095 --> 01:14:55,161
  6910. to sell the American public
  6911. your bullshit.
  6912.  
  6913. 1488
  6914. 01:14:55,163 --> 01:14:56,132
  6915. All right.
  6916.  
  6917. 1489
  6918. 01:15:00,303 --> 01:15:04,204
  6919. By the way, it's Knight <i>Ridder.</i>
  6920.  
  6921. 1490
  6922. 01:15:04,206 --> 01:15:06,007
  6923. <i>Secretary of State Colin Powell
  6924. will make the case...</i>
  6925.  
  6926. 1491
  6927. 01:15:06,009 --> 01:15:09,310
  6928. <i>against Iraq in a nationally
  6929. televised address...</i>
  6930.  
  6931. 1492
  6932. 01:15:09,312 --> 01:15:11,779
  6933. <i>to the UN Security Council.</i>
  6934.  
  6935. 1493
  6936. 01:15:11,781 --> 01:15:13,780
  6937. Looks like they're bringing
  6938. in the closer.
  6939.  
  6940. 1494
  6941. 01:15:13,782 --> 01:15:15,249
  6942. REPORTER: <i>Mr. Secretary,
  6943. are you confident...</i>
  6944.  
  6945. 1495
  6946. 01:15:15,251 --> 01:15:16,851
  6947. <i>you will make your case, sir?</i>
  6948.  
  6949. 1496
  6950. 01:15:16,853 --> 01:15:18,319
  6951. You'll see.
  6952.  
  6953. 1497
  6954. 01:15:18,321 --> 01:15:20,154
  6955. What the hell game have we've
  6956. been playing?
  6957.  
  6958. 1498
  6959. 01:15:20,156 --> 01:15:22,292
  6960. All we did is piss into the
  6961. wind.
  6962.  
  6963. 1499
  6964. 01:15:24,426 --> 01:15:27,427
  6965. We did our jobs.
  6966.  
  6967. 1500
  6968. 01:15:27,429 --> 01:15:30,830
  6969. I should never have become
  6970. a reporter.
  6971.  
  6972. 1501
  6973. 01:15:30,832 --> 01:15:33,870
  6974. Damn that Woodward and
  6975. Bernstein.
  6976.  
  6977. 1502
  6978. 01:15:36,339 --> 01:15:39,073
  6979. They took down a president
  6980. whose biggest crime...
  6981.  
  6982. 1503
  6983. 01:15:39,075 --> 01:15:42,910
  6984. was trying to cover up some
  6985. dirty political tricks.
  6986.  
  6987. 1504
  6988. 01:15:42,912 --> 01:15:45,279
  6989. This president's about to do the
  6990. worst thing any president...
  6991.  
  6992. 1505
  6993. 01:15:45,281 --> 01:15:47,718
  6994. could do and he'll probably
  6995. get re-elected.
  6996.  
  6997. 1506
  6998. 01:15:49,852 --> 01:15:51,787
  6999. To the democratic experiment.
  7000.  
  7001. 1507
  7002. 01:15:55,257 --> 01:15:56,891
  7003. POWELL:
  7004. <i>Thank you, Mr. President.</i>
  7005.  
  7006. 1508
  7007. 01:15:56,893 --> 01:15:59,192
  7008. <i>My colleagues, every statement
  7009. I make today...</i>
  7010.  
  7011. 1509
  7012. 01:15:59,194 --> 01:16:03,931
  7013. <i>is backed up by sources,
  7014. solid sources.</i>
  7015.  
  7016. 1510
  7017. 01:16:03,933 --> 01:16:07,334
  7018. <i>The gravity of this moment is
  7019. matched by the gravity...</i>
  7020.  
  7021. 1511
  7022. 01:16:07,336 --> 01:16:10,337
  7023. <i>of the threat that Iraq's
  7024. weapons of mass destruction...</i>
  7025.  
  7026. 1512
  7027. 01:16:10,339 --> 01:16:11,905
  7028. <i>pose to the world.</i>
  7029.  
  7030. 1513
  7031. 01:16:11,907 --> 01:16:15,709
  7032. It was a set up, the whole damn
  7033. thing was a set up.
  7034.  
  7035. 1514
  7036. 01:16:15,711 --> 01:16:18,244
  7037. Tenet sent Powell a stack
  7038. of files this high...
  7039.  
  7040. 1515
  7041. 01:16:18,246 --> 01:16:19,413
  7042. that supported the invasion.
  7043.  
  7044. 1516
  7045. 01:16:19,415 --> 01:16:21,414
  7046. <i>Saddam Hussein is determined...</i>
  7047.  
  7048. 1517
  7049. 01:16:21,416 --> 01:16:23,851
  7050. <i>to get his hands
  7051. on a nuclear bomb.</i>
  7052.  
  7053. 1518
  7054. 01:16:23,853 --> 01:16:25,218
  7055. Cheney sent Scooter Libby...
  7056.  
  7057. 1519
  7058. 01:16:25,220 --> 01:16:27,887
  7059. to push three main arguments
  7060. in those files.
  7061.  
  7062. 1520
  7063. 01:16:27,889 --> 01:16:29,423
  7064. One: Saddam's human rights
  7065. abuses...
  7066.  
  7067. 1521
  7068. 01:16:29,425 --> 01:16:30,990
  7069. which everybody knew about.
  7070.  
  7071. 1522
  7072. 01:16:30,992 --> 01:16:32,860
  7073. Two: his links to al Qaeda,
  7074. which Powell...
  7075.  
  7076. 1523
  7077. 01:16:32,862 --> 01:16:34,762
  7078. of course, threw right
  7079. in the trash.
  7080.  
  7081. 1524
  7082. 01:16:34,764 --> 01:16:39,400
  7083. And the third focused
  7084. on Iraq's WMD.
  7085.  
  7086. 1525
  7087. 01:16:39,402 --> 01:16:41,869
  7088. <i>Leaving Saddam Hussein in
  7089. possession of weapons...</i>
  7090.  
  7091. 1526
  7092. 01:16:41,871 --> 01:16:44,204
  7093. <i>of mass destruction for a few
  7094. more months or years...</i>
  7095.  
  7096. 1527
  7097. 01:16:44,206 --> 01:16:48,241
  7098. <i>is not an option, not in a
  7099. post-September 11th world.</i>
  7100.  
  7101. 1528
  7102. 01:16:48,243 --> 01:16:52,178
  7103. Over a four-day period, Powell
  7104. made every single CIA officer...
  7105.  
  7106. 1529
  7107. 01:16:52,180 --> 01:16:55,415
  7108. defend every so-called piece
  7109. of evidence in those files.
  7110.  
  7111. 1530
  7112. 01:16:55,417 --> 01:16:57,250
  7113. He threw out 80% of them.
  7114.  
  7115. 1531
  7116. 01:16:57,252 --> 01:16:59,018
  7117. At the end of the four days...
  7118.  
  7119. 1532
  7120. 01:16:59,020 --> 01:17:01,254
  7121. Powell looked Tenet right
  7122. in the eye and said...
  7123.  
  7124. 1533
  7125. 01:17:01,256 --> 01:17:06,192
  7126. "George, can we stand
  7127. by every word of this?"
  7128.  
  7129. 1534
  7130. 01:17:06,194 --> 01:17:13,066
  7131. And Tenet said, "Everything in
  7132. there is gold, I promise you."
  7133.  
  7134. 1535
  7135. 01:17:13,068 --> 01:17:15,302
  7136. To which Powell replied, "Well,
  7137. that's good, George.
  7138.  
  7139. 1536
  7140. 01:17:15,304 --> 01:17:17,271
  7141. "I'm glad you feel that way,
  7142. 'cause you're going to be...
  7143.  
  7144. 1537
  7145. 01:17:17,273 --> 01:17:20,307
  7146. "sitting right behind me when
  7147. I present this to the world."
  7148.  
  7149. 1538
  7150. 01:17:20,309 --> 01:17:24,410
  7151. <i>We must not fail in our duty
  7152. and our responsibility...</i>
  7153.  
  7154. 1539
  7155. 01:17:24,412 --> 01:17:26,379
  7156. <i>to the citizens of the
  7157. countries...</i>
  7158.  
  7159. 1540
  7160. 01:17:26,381 --> 01:17:29,450
  7161. <i>that are represented
  7162. by this body.</i>
  7163.  
  7164. 1541
  7165. 01:17:29,452 --> 01:17:32,285
  7166. Colin took one for the team.
  7167.  
  7168. 1542
  7169. 01:17:32,287 --> 01:17:34,320
  7170. Always the good soldier.
  7171.  
  7172. 1543
  7173. 01:17:34,322 --> 01:17:36,323
  7174. BUSH:
  7175. <i>Has the Iraqi regime fully...</i>
  7176.  
  7177. 1544
  7178. 01:17:36,325 --> 01:17:39,927
  7179. <i>and unconditionally disarmed?</i>
  7180.  
  7181. 1545
  7182. 01:17:39,929 --> 01:17:43,097
  7183. <i>The only acceptable outcome is
  7184. the one already defined...</i>
  7185.  
  7186. 1546
  7187. 01:17:43,099 --> 01:17:45,865
  7188. <i>by a unanimous vote of the
  7189. Security Council.</i>
  7190.  
  7191. 1547
  7192. 01:17:45,867 --> 01:17:49,003
  7193. <i>Total disarmament.</i>
  7194.  
  7195. 1548
  7196. 01:17:49,005 --> 01:17:51,204
  7197. <i>Great Britain, Spain and the
  7198. United States have introduced..</i>
  7199.  
  7200. 1549
  7201. 01:17:51,206 --> 01:17:54,508
  7202. <i>a new resolution stating that
  7203. Iraq has failed to meet...</i>
  7204.  
  7205. 1550
  7206. 01:17:54,510 --> 01:18:01,382
  7207. <i>the requirements
  7208. of Resolution 1441.</i>
  7209.  
  7210. 1551
  7211. 01:18:01,384 --> 01:18:05,319
  7212. <i>This is a fact, it cannot
  7213. be denied.</i>
  7214.  
  7215. 1552
  7216. 01:18:05,321 --> 01:18:06,553
  7217. REPORTER: <i>And what harm
  7218. would it do to give...</i>
  7219.  
  7220. 1553
  7221. 01:18:06,555 --> 01:18:08,489
  7222. <i>Saddam a final ultimatum?</i>
  7223.  
  7224. 1554
  7225. 01:18:08,491 --> 01:18:11,392
  7226. <i>A two or three day deadline
  7227. to disarm or face force?</i>
  7228.  
  7229. 1555
  7230. 01:18:11,394 --> 01:18:13,994
  7231. <i>September the 11th changed
  7232. the strategic thinking...</i>
  7233.  
  7234. 1556
  7235. 01:18:13,996 --> 01:18:16,230
  7236. <i>at least as far as I was
  7237. concerned...</i>
  7238.  
  7239. 1557
  7240. 01:18:16,232 --> 01:18:18,865
  7241. <i>for how to protect our country.</i>
  7242.  
  7243. 1558
  7244. 01:18:18,867 --> 01:18:24,038
  7245. <i>My job is to protect the
  7246. American people.</i>
  7247.  
  7248. 1559
  7249. 01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:27,040
  7250. <i>Used to be that we could think
  7251. that you could contain...</i>
  7252.  
  7253. 1560
  7254. 01:18:27,042 --> 01:18:28,909
  7255. <i>a person like Saddam Hussein...</i>
  7256.  
  7257. 1561
  7258. 01:18:28,911 --> 01:18:31,611
  7259. <i>that oceans would protect us
  7260. from his type of terror.</i>
  7261.  
  7262. 1562
  7263. 01:18:31,613 --> 01:18:33,513
  7264. <i>(PHONE RINGS)</i>
  7265.  
  7266. 1563
  7267. 01:18:33,515 --> 01:18:35,516
  7268. <i>September the 11th should say
  7269. to the American people...</i>
  7270.  
  7271. 1564
  7272. 01:18:35,518 --> 01:18:37,418
  7273. Hello?
  7274.  
  7275. 1565
  7276. 01:18:37,420 --> 01:18:39,352
  7277. You need to pack your bags.
  7278.  
  7279. 1566
  7280. 01:18:39,354 --> 01:18:42,589
  7281. Right.
  7282.  
  7283. 1567
  7284. 01:18:42,591 --> 01:18:45,092
  7285. <i>In the hands of a terrorist
  7286. organization...</i>
  7287.  
  7288. 1568
  7289. 01:18:45,094 --> 01:18:48,428
  7290. <i>could be deployed here at home.</i>
  7291.  
  7292. 1569
  7293. 01:18:48,430 --> 01:18:52,432
  7294. <i>King, John King. This is a
  7295. scripted...</i>
  7296.  
  7297. 1570
  7298. 01:18:52,434 --> 01:18:54,267
  7299. <i>Thank you, Mr. President.</i>
  7300.  
  7301. 1571
  7302. 01:18:54,269 --> 01:18:56,603
  7303. <i>Sir, how would you answer your
  7304. critics who say that they...</i>
  7305.  
  7306. 1572
  7307. 01:18:56,605 --> 01:18:58,338
  7308. <i>They think this is somehow
  7309. personal?</i>
  7310.  
  7311. 1573
  7312. 01:18:58,340 --> 01:19:00,374
  7313. <i>As Senator Kennedy put it
  7314. tonight...</i>
  7315.  
  7316. 1574
  7317. 01:19:00,376 --> 01:19:02,877
  7318. <i>he said your fixation
  7319. with Saddam Hussein...</i>
  7320.  
  7321. 1575
  7322. 01:19:02,879 --> 01:19:05,079
  7323. <i>is making the world a more
  7324. dangerous place.</i>
  7325.  
  7326. 1576
  7327. 01:19:05,081 --> 01:19:07,114
  7328. <i>And as you prepare the American
  7329. people for the possibility...</i>
  7330.  
  7331. 1577
  7332. 01:19:07,116 --> 01:19:09,316
  7333. <i>of military conflict, could you
  7334. share with us...</i>
  7335.  
  7336. 1578
  7337. 01:19:09,318 --> 01:19:11,451
  7338. <i>any of the scenarios your
  7339. advisors have shared...</i>
  7340.  
  7341. 1579
  7342. 01:19:11,453 --> 01:19:15,222
  7343. <i>with you about worst-case
  7344. scenarios?</i>
  7345.  
  7346. 1580
  7347. 01:19:15,224 --> 01:19:21,464
  7348. You make sure the... this country
  7349. knows what's going on out there.
  7350.  
  7351. 1581
  7352. 01:19:22,598 --> 01:19:25,031
  7353. - Yeah?
  7354. - I will.
  7355.  
  7356. 1582
  7357. 01:19:25,033 --> 01:19:29,335
  7358. <i>I swore to protect and defend
  7359. the Constitution.</i>
  7360.  
  7361. 1583
  7362. 01:19:29,337 --> 01:19:31,371
  7363. <i>He has weapons of mass
  7364. destruction...</i>
  7365.  
  7366. 1584
  7367. 01:19:31,373 --> 01:19:34,475
  7368. <i>and he has used weapons
  7369. of mass destruction.</i>
  7370.  
  7371. 1585
  7372. 01:19:34,477 --> 01:19:36,176
  7373. <i>He has trained and financed...</i>
  7374.  
  7375. 1586
  7376. 01:19:36,178 --> 01:19:38,646
  7377. <i>al Qaeda-type organizations
  7378. before.</i>
  7379.  
  7380. 1587
  7381. 01:19:38,648 --> 01:19:42,449
  7382. <i>I take the threat seriously,
  7383. and I'll deal with the threat.</i>
  7384.  
  7385. 1588
  7386. 01:19:42,451 --> 01:19:45,319
  7387. <i>I hope it can be done
  7388. peacefully.</i>
  7389.  
  7390. 1589
  7391. 01:19:45,321 --> 01:19:48,422
  7392. <i>They hate what we stand for.</i>
  7393.  
  7394. 1590
  7395. 01:19:48,424 --> 01:19:50,227
  7396. <i>We love freedom, and we're
  7397. not changing.</i>
  7398.  
  7399. 1591
  7400. 01:19:52,127 --> 01:19:54,093
  7401. REPORTER: <i>Mr. President,
  7402. millions of Americans can...</i>
  7403.  
  7404. 1592
  7405. 01:19:54,095 --> 01:19:57,097
  7406. <i>recall a time when leaders from
  7407. both parties set this country..</i>
  7408.  
  7409. 1593
  7410. 01:19:57,099 --> 01:19:59,333
  7411. <i>on a mission of regime change
  7412. in Vietnam.</i>
  7413.  
  7414. 1594
  7415. 01:19:59,335 --> 01:20:01,968
  7416. <i>50,000 Americans died.</i>
  7417.  
  7418. 1595
  7419. 01:20:01,970 --> 01:20:04,938
  7420. <i>The regime is still there in
  7421. Hanoi and it hasn't harmed...</i>
  7422.  
  7423. 1596
  7424. 01:20:04,940 --> 01:20:06,606
  7425. <i>or threatened a single American
  7426. in 30 years...</i>
  7427.  
  7428. 1597
  7429. 01:20:06,608 --> 01:20:08,409
  7430. <i>since the war ended.</i>
  7431.  
  7432. 1598
  7433. 01:20:08,411 --> 01:20:11,177
  7434. <i>What can you say tonight, sir,
  7435. to the sons and daughters...</i>
  7436.  
  7437. 1599
  7438. 01:20:11,179 --> 01:20:14,647
  7439. <i>of the Americans who served in
  7440. Vietnam to assure them that...</i>
  7441.  
  7442. 1600
  7443. 01:20:14,649 --> 01:20:18,418
  7444. <i>you will not lead this country
  7445. down a similar path in Iraq?</i>
  7446.  
  7447. 1601
  7448. 01:20:18,420 --> 01:20:21,387
  7449. BUSH: <i>That's a great question.</i>
  7450.  
  7451. 1602
  7452. 01:20:21,389 --> 01:20:24,191
  7453. <i>No doubt, there's risks with
  7454. any military operation.</i>
  7455.  
  7456. 1603
  7457. 01:20:24,193 --> 01:20:26,026
  7458. <i>I know that.</i>
  7459.  
  7460. 1604
  7461. 01:20:26,028 --> 01:20:28,462
  7462. It's a good thing he can draw
  7463. on all that experience he got...
  7464.  
  7465. 1605
  7466. 01:20:28,464 --> 01:20:30,664
  7467. while not serving in the
  7468. National Guard.
  7469.  
  7470. 1606
  7471. 01:20:30,666 --> 01:20:34,034
  7472. <i>But it's very clear what we
  7473. intend to do.</i>
  7474.  
  7475. 1607
  7476. 01:20:34,036 --> 01:20:36,139
  7477. <i>And our mission won't change.</i>
  7478.  
  7479. 1608
  7480. 01:20:38,674 --> 01:20:43,343
  7481. <i>It could last, you know, six
  7482. days, six weeks...</i>
  7483.  
  7484. 1609
  7485. 01:20:43,345 --> 01:20:47,114
  7486. <i>I doubt six months.</i>
  7487.  
  7488. 1610
  7489. 01:20:47,116 --> 01:20:48,649
  7490. <i>There's a lot of money to pay
  7491. for this...</i>
  7492.  
  7493. 1611
  7494. 01:20:48,651 --> 01:20:50,616
  7495. <i>that doesn't have to be
  7496. U.S. taxpayer money.</i>
  7497.  
  7498. 1612
  7499. 01:20:50,618 --> 01:20:53,152
  7500. <i>We're dealing with a country
  7501. that can really finance...</i>
  7502.  
  7503. 1613
  7504. 01:20:53,154 --> 01:20:56,022
  7505. <i>its own reconstruction,
  7506. and relatively soon.</i>
  7507.  
  7508. 1614
  7509. 01:20:56,024 --> 01:20:58,592
  7510. <i>There will always be some
  7511. uncertainty...</i>
  7512.  
  7513. 1615
  7514. 01:20:58,594 --> 01:21:01,328
  7515. <i>about how quickly he can
  7516. acquire nuclear weapons...</i>
  7517.  
  7518. 1616
  7519. 01:21:01,330 --> 01:21:04,263
  7520. <i>but we don't want the smoking
  7521. gun to be a mushroom cloud.</i>
  7522.  
  7523. 1617
  7524. 01:21:04,265 --> 01:21:06,165
  7525. RUSSERT: <i>Do you think the
  7526. America people...</i>
  7527.  
  7528. 1618
  7529. 01:21:06,167 --> 01:21:09,636
  7530. <i>are prepared for a long,
  7531. costly, and bloody battle...</i>
  7532.  
  7533. 1619
  7534. 01:21:09,638 --> 01:21:12,106
  7535. <i>with significant American
  7536. casualties?</i>
  7537.  
  7538. 1620
  7539. 01:21:12,108 --> 01:21:14,173
  7540. <i>I don't think it's likely
  7541. to unfold that way, Tim...</i>
  7542.  
  7543. 1621
  7544. 01:21:14,175 --> 01:21:16,276
  7545. <i>because I really do believe we
  7546. will be greeted as liberators.</i>
  7547.  
  7548. 1622
  7549. 01:21:16,278 --> 01:21:19,213
  7550. BLITZER: <i>Six weeks after the
  7551. war had begun, the President...</i>
  7552.  
  7553. 1623
  7554. 01:21:19,215 --> 01:21:21,481
  7555. <i>is set to deliver a very
  7556. carefully worded speech...</i>
  7557.  
  7558. 1624
  7559. 01:21:21,483 --> 01:21:24,084
  7560. <i>on a carrier in the Pacific.</i>
  7561.  
  7562. 1625
  7563. 01:21:24,086 --> 01:21:27,620
  7564. BUSH: <i>My fellow Americans,
  7565. major combat operations...</i>
  7566.  
  7567. 1626
  7568. 01:21:27,622 --> 01:21:29,556
  7569. <i>in Iraq have ended.</i>
  7570.  
  7571. 1627
  7572. 01:21:29,558 --> 01:21:32,659
  7573. <i>In the battle of Iraq,
  7574. the United States...</i>
  7575.  
  7576. 1628
  7577. 01:21:32,661 --> 01:21:35,498
  7578. <i>and our allies have prevailed.</i>
  7579.  
  7580. 1629
  7581. 01:21:40,669 --> 01:21:42,238
  7582. (LOUD EXPLOSION)
  7583.  
  7584. 1630
  7585. 01:21:52,148 --> 01:21:55,051
  7586. <i>(SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING)</i>
  7587.  
  7588. 1631
  7589. 01:22:17,572 --> 01:22:19,575
  7590. I want to go down there.
  7591.  
  7592. 1632
  7593. 01:22:37,492 --> 01:22:40,496
  7594. They were the first to die.
  7595.  
  7596. 1633
  7597. 01:22:45,233 --> 01:22:47,370
  7598. Were you there?
  7599.  
  7600. 1634
  7601. 01:22:50,706 --> 01:22:52,108
  7602. Thank you.
  7603.  
  7604. 1635
  7605. 01:22:57,545 --> 01:22:59,281
  7606. Thank you, son.
  7607.  
  7608. 1636
  7609. 01:23:12,428 --> 01:23:15,465
  7610. <i>(SOMBER MUSIC CONTINUES)</i>
  7611.  
  7612. 1637
  7613. 01:24:04,779 --> 01:24:06,579
  7614. <i>Jonathan, how did it feel,
  7615. therefore...</i>
  7616.  
  7617. 1638
  7618. 01:24:06,581 --> 01:24:10,350
  7619. <i>to be the lone holdouts in this
  7620. pursuit of truth and fact?</i>
  7621.  
  7622. 1639
  7623. 01:24:10,352 --> 01:24:12,718
  7624. <i>It was very lonely and what
  7625. made it actually one...</i>
  7626.  
  7627. 1640
  7628. 01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:14,288
  7629. <i>of the ironies is...</i>
  7630.  
  7631. 1641
  7632. 01:24:14,290 --> 01:24:15,955
  7633. <i>that every time we would write
  7634. something...</i>
  7635.  
  7636. 1642
  7637. 01:24:15,957 --> 01:24:19,325
  7638. <i>the White House would say
  7639. nothing, because we realized...</i>
  7640.  
  7641. 1643
  7642. 01:24:19,327 --> 01:24:21,561
  7643. <i>after a while that that would
  7644. have been the best...</i>
  7645.  
  7646. 1644
  7647. 01:24:21,563 --> 01:24:24,530
  7648. <i>advertising for our stories we
  7649. could have possibly asked for.</i>
  7650.  
  7651. 1645
  7652. 01:24:24,532 --> 01:24:25,632
  7653. <i>There's a problem with
  7654. journalism...</i>
  7655.  
  7656. 1646
  7657. 01:24:25,634 --> 01:24:27,433
  7658. <i>in Washington, which is access.</i>
  7659.  
  7660. 1647
  7661. 01:24:27,435 --> 01:24:29,302
  7662. <i>And The New York Times and
  7663. others had access to the top...</i>
  7664.  
  7665. 1648
  7666. 01:24:29,304 --> 01:24:30,736
  7667. <i>officials who were spinning
  7668. this line.</i>
  7669.  
  7670. 1649
  7671. 01:24:30,738 --> 01:24:32,371
  7672. <i>We talked to those people,
  7673. as well...</i>
  7674.  
  7675. 1650
  7676. 01:24:32,373 --> 01:24:33,640
  7677. <i>but most of our reporting,
  7678. Christiane...</i>
  7679.  
  7680. 1651
  7681. 01:24:33,642 --> 01:24:35,642
  7682. <i>was with intelligence,
  7683. military...</i>
  7684.  
  7685. 1652
  7686. 01:24:35,644 --> 01:24:36,810
  7687. <i>and diplomatic mid-level...</i>
  7688.  
  7689. 1653
  7690. 01:24:36,812 --> 01:24:38,811
  7691. - <i>Lower level?</i>
  7692. - <i>Lower level.</i>
  7693.  
  7694. 1654
  7695. 01:24:38,813 --> 01:24:40,780
  7696. <i>The types journalists don't
  7697. normally talk to or go after.</i>
  7698.  
  7699. 1655
  7700. 01:24:40,782 --> 01:24:42,783
  7701. <i>Can I just give a little
  7702. credit, also, to the man...</i>
  7703.  
  7704. 1656
  7705. 01:24:42,785 --> 01:24:44,718
  7706. <i>who was our boss at the time,
  7707. John Walcott.</i>
  7708.  
  7709. 1657
  7710. 01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:46,887
  7711. <i>Higher levels of
  7712. civilization...</i>
  7713.  
  7714. 1658
  7715. 01:24:46,889 --> 01:24:49,455
  7716. <i>must depend even more
  7717. heavily...</i>
  7718.  
  7719. 1659
  7720. 01:24:49,457 --> 01:24:52,926
  7721. <i>on a conscientious respect for
  7722. the importance of honesty...</i>
  7723.  
  7724. 1660
  7725. 01:24:52,928 --> 01:24:56,829
  7726. <i>and clarity in reporting the
  7727. facts and out of stubborn...</i>
  7728.  
  7729. 1661
  7730. 01:24:56,831 --> 01:25:02,468
  7731. <i>concern for accuracy in
  7732. determining what the facts are.</i>
  7733.  
  7734. 1662
  7735. 01:25:02,470 --> 01:25:07,240
  7736. <i>We need to find some way
  7737. to cover the world so that...</i>
  7738.  
  7739. 1663
  7740. 01:25:07,242 --> 01:25:09,543
  7741. <i>we know what's happening
  7742. out there...</i>
  7743.  
  7744. 1664
  7745. 01:25:09,545 --> 01:25:11,311
  7746. <i>that we know the truth
  7747. about it...</i>
  7748.  
  7749. 1665
  7750. 01:25:11,313 --> 01:25:15,882
  7751. <i>so we can avoid mistakes...</i>
  7752.  
  7753. 1666
  7754. 01:25:15,884 --> 01:25:18,884
  7755. <i>mistakes like Iraq.</i>
  7756.  
  7757. 1667
  7758. 01:25:18,886 --> 01:25:21,021
  7759. <i>The intelligence was
  7760. what it was.</i>
  7761.  
  7762. 1668
  7763. 01:25:21,023 --> 01:25:22,888
  7764. <i>You know, people like me
  7765. couldn't make it up.</i>
  7766.  
  7767. 1669
  7768. 01:25:22,890 --> 01:25:24,591
  7769. STEWART: <i>The intelligence
  7770. wasn't what it was...</i>
  7771.  
  7772. 1670
  7773. 01:25:24,593 --> 01:25:26,560
  7774. <i>and not everybody got it wrong.</i>
  7775.  
  7776. 1671
  7777. 01:25:26,562 --> 01:25:29,431
  7778. <i>Almost everybody did,
  7779. except for Knight Ridder.</i>
  7780.  
  7781. 1672
  7782. 01:25:29,433 --> 01:25:31,999
  7783. Subtitles by explosiveskull
  7784.  
  7785. 1673
  7786. 01:25:32,001 --> 01:25:34,971
  7787. <i>(SOFT MUSIC PLAYING)</i>
  7788.  
  7789.  
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