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- Subtitles by explosiveskull
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- (CLEARS THROAT)
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- Continuing today's
- hearing on future VA funding...
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- the Senate Committee on
- Veterans' Affairs...
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- is called back to order.
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- CHAIRMAN: We'll hear from our
- next witness.
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- Will you please stand
- and raise your right hand?
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- My apologies.
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- Please raise your right hand.
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- Do you swear that the testimony
- you're about to give...
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- this committee will be the
- truth, the whole truth...
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- and nothing but the
- truth, so help you God?
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- I do.
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- Please state your name.
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- Private First Class Adam Green,
- United States Army, retired.
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- Mr. Green, I understand you've
- prepared a statement?
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- I have, sir.
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- You may enter it into the record
- at this time.
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- Mr. Chairman, members of the
- Committee...
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- I want to thank you
- for the opportunity...
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- to speak with you today.
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- I served in the military f...
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- I'm sorry, if I could just...
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- Sure, go ahead.
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- Thank you, sir.
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- I've always liked numbers.
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- Whenever I have a hard time
- wrapping my head around...
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- something, I find that numbers
- make things clearer for me.
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- They help me understand
- decisions that are made...
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- and the impacts of those
- decisions.
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- So, if it's all right...
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- I'd like the start with the
- number 1.4 million.
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- That's the number of men
- and women...
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- who are currently serving
- in our military.
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- 555...
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- that's how many days passed
- before we invaded one country...
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- after having been attacked
- by another.
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- 19... is how old I was when
- I enlisted.
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- Three is the number of hours
- that passed from the time...
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- I arrived in Iraq to the time
- our transport...
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- was destroyed by an I.E.D.
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- And then there's six.
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- That's the number of inches the
- piece of shrapnel was...
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- that severed my spinal cord.
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- The only problems with numbers
- is they can be impersonal.
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- A decision you made had a
- life-changing impact on me...
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- and a lot of soldiers like me.
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- Now, I'm not a military expert.
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- I don't know a whole lot
- about geopolitical affairs.
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- I'm just an ordinary American.
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- And I understand that you've
- asked me here...
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- because you all have
- some questions for me,
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- but if it's all right, I'd like
- to ask all of you a question.
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- How the hell did this happen?
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- BUSH: <i>My fellow citizens,
- at this hour...</i>
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- <i>American and coalition forces
- are in the early stages...</i>
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- <i>of military operations
- to disarm Iraq, to free...</i>
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- <i>its people and to defend
- the world from grave danger.</i>
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- BLITZER: <i>The start of the
- campaign called Shock and Awe.</i>
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- BROKAW: <i>Shock and Awe.</i>
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- 00:05:01,007 --> 00:05:02,940
- - RATHER: <i>Shock and Awe.</i>
- - MAN: <i>Shock and Awe, indeed.</i>
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- REPORTER #1: <i>Air raid sirens
- are going off in Baghdad...</i>
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- REPORTER #2: <i>The massive
- military operation...</i>
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- <i>to topple Saddam Hussein
- is now in effect.</i>
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- REPORTER #3:
- <i>Firing 600 Cruise missiles...</i>
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- <i>and every type of war plane
- in the American arsenal.</i>
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- BROKAW: <i>A fearsome display
- of American military might.</i>
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- REPORTER #4:
- <i>The scale of this attack...</i>
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- <i>is considerably higher than
- anything we've seen before.</i>
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- REPORTER #5: <i>We're taking out
- whole buildings...</i>
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- <i>with these Cruise missiles.</i>
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- RATHER:
- <i>U.S. war planes unleashed...</i>
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- <i>to promise massive bombardment
- of Baghdad.</i>
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- BLITZER: <i>3,000 Tomahawk
- Cruise missiles...</i>
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- <i>satellite-guided precision
- bombs, laser-guided bombs.</i>
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- REPORTER #6: <i>I think the
- citizens of Baghdad know...</i>
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- <i>exactly what the Pentagon
- means by Shock and Awe.</i>
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- REPORTER #7: <i>Just over the
- Kuwait-Iraq border...</i>
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- <i>we watched as columns of troops
- moved into the country.</i>
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- RATHER: <i>They're well on their
- way to Baghdad.</i>
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- <i>They have met resistance.</i>
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- WOMAN: <i>We can't leave the
- television...</i>
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- <i>every tank, every helicopter...
- is that my son?</i>
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- REPORTER #8: <i>Now Baghdad is
- within striking distance...</i>
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- <i>just a few short miles away...</i>
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- <i>as U.S. troops make their final
- push forward.</i>
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- <i>We want to slaughter
- them all...</i>
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- <i>those invaders, their tombs
- will be here in Iraq.</i>
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- REPORTER #9: <i>If Saddam Hussein
- is alive, he is quote...</i>
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- <i>"Not in control of his military
- and of his government."</i>
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- BUSH: <i>These are opening stages
- of what will be a broad...</i>
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- <i>and concerted campaign.</i>
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- <i>Could be longer and more
- difficult than some predict.</i>
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- <i>And helping Iraqis achieve
- a united, stable...</i>
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- <i>and free country will require
- our sustained commitment.</i>
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- <i>And you can know that our
- forces will be coming home...</i>
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- <i>as soon as their work is done.</i>
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- Keep moving! Keep moving!
- Let's go!
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- - Where are they taking us?
- - Shut up. Head down.
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- Keep your mouth shut or I'll
- blow your fucking head off.
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- - All right, all right.
- - Are you a soldier?
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- - Journalist.
- - Who do you work for?
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- - Knight Ridder.
- - Never heard of it.
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- You should read more.
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- What is your name?
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- Jonathan Landay.
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- Goodbye, Jonathan Landay.
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- 00:07:04,798 --> 00:07:06,100
- (TRIGGER CLICKS)
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- Exercise complete.
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- What you have just engaged in is
- called The Gray Man Exercise.
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- And what you have just
- witnessed...
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- is a colossal failure
- of that exercise.
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- - If a journalist is captured...
- - <i>(PHONE RINGING)</i>
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- terrorists may keep you alive...
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- in hopes of getting information
- or exchanging you for a ransom.
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- But if you give them a reason
- to kill you, they will.
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- The purpose of this exercise
- is to teach you...
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- how to avoid drawing the
- attention of your captors.
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- Hence the name, Gray Man.
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- Can you untie me?
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- This could save your life one
- day, you understand?
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- I do, I've been in 11 war zones,
- I've been shot at...
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- I've been held captive, I take
- this very seriously.
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- But if you don't untie me right
- now, I may lose my job.
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- And I'm fairly certain that
- none of this training...
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- is going to be very useful...
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- when I'm mopping the floor
- at Staples.
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- REPORTER:
- <i>Both of the twin towers...</i>
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- 00:08:07,060 --> 00:08:09,760
- <i>the World Trade Center in New
- York's lower Manhattan...</i>
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- <i>have been struck by planes this
- morning within 20 minutes.</i>
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- 00:08:13,166 --> 00:08:15,200
- <i>First, it was the North Tower
- that was struck...</i>
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- 00:08:15,202 --> 00:08:17,736
- <i>with a gaping hole left in two
- sides of that building.</i>
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- Good God.
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- 00:08:19,139 --> 00:08:21,171
- <i>20 minutes later, the second
- building...</i>
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- 00:08:21,173 --> 00:08:24,075
- <i>the second tower in that World
- Trade Center complex...</i>
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- I think we should keep Elizabeth
- in school.
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- Yeah, no, I think that's
- a good idea.
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- Why freak her out, huh?
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- 00:08:29,216 --> 00:08:32,417
- And I'll call Ali and Jennifer
- as soon as the phones open up.
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- - I love you.
- - I love you.
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- Okay.
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- REPORTER:
- <i>We should tell you that...</i>
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- <i>we have gotten calls from
- people...</i>
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- 00:08:38,425 --> 00:08:40,692
- <i>who live and work around the
- Pentagon who have told us...</i>
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- 00:08:40,694 --> 00:08:42,159
- <i>that they have seen
- something...</i>
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- 00:08:42,161 --> 00:08:44,162
- <i>that they have described
- as an explosion.</i>
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- 00:08:44,164 --> 00:08:47,101
- <i>This is information we have not
- been able to confirm.</i>
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- Get up.
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- Sorry, Dad.
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- Monday Night Football went long.
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- Let's clean this place up.
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- COMMENTATOR: <i>Trade Center
- here in New York...</i>
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- <i>have been hit by airplanes.</i>
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- 00:09:44,324 --> 00:09:47,491
- <i>In Washington, there is a large
- fire at the Pentagon.</i>
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- 00:09:47,493 --> 00:09:49,360
- <i>The Pentagon has been
- evacuated.</i>
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- 00:09:49,362 --> 00:09:52,496
- <i>And there is, you can see,
- perhaps, the second tower...</i>
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- 00:09:52,498 --> 00:09:56,266
- <i>the front tower, the top
- portion of which is collapsing.</i>
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- 00:09:56,268 --> 00:09:58,502
- <i>Good Lord.</i>
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- 00:09:58,504 --> 00:10:03,441
- Lot of people going to need
- a drink tonight.
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- 00:10:03,443 --> 00:10:05,746
- Soldiers drink free.
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- 00:10:08,515 --> 00:10:11,448
- REPORTER:
- <i>There are no words.</i>
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- 00:10:11,450 --> 00:10:15,819
- <i>All federal office buildings
- now...</i>
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- 00:10:15,821 --> 00:10:18,490
- <i>all federal office buildings
- in Washington, D.C.</i>
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- 00:10:18,492 --> 00:10:21,860
- <i>are being evacuated as we speak
- to you now.</i>
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- 00:10:21,862 --> 00:10:24,895
- <i>We are in the middle of an
- extraordinary catastrophe.</i>
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- 00:10:24,897 --> 00:10:27,932
- <i>The most important things to
- tell you if you just joined...</i>
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- 00:10:27,934 --> 00:10:31,034
- <i>in is that what has all the
- makings of an extraordinarily..</i>
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- 00:10:31,036 --> 00:10:34,505
- <i>well-planned terrorist attack
- on both Washington and New York</i>
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- 00:10:34,507 --> 00:10:35,973
- <i>has taken place this morning.</i>
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- 00:10:35,975 --> 00:10:38,108
- <i>The Trade Centers here
- in New York...</i>
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- 00:10:38,110 --> 00:10:40,410
- <i>the two World Trade Center
- towers have collapsed...</i>
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- 00:10:40,412 --> 00:10:43,717
- <i>after being hit by planes.</i>
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- 00:10:46,953 --> 00:10:50,053
- Yeah, this is John Walcott
- from Knight Ridder.
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- Is he there?
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- 00:10:51,791 --> 00:10:55,860
- Yeah, okay, well, tell him
- I'll try him back later.
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- 00:10:55,862 --> 00:10:57,294
- Thank you.
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- 00:10:57,296 --> 00:10:59,130
- I just spoke with my wife.
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- 00:10:59,132 --> 00:11:01,432
- She and the kids are
- afraid to leave the house.
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- 00:11:01,434 --> 00:11:04,101
- What are they doing over there?
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- 00:11:04,103 --> 00:11:05,370
- They're watching the White
- House.
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- 00:11:05,372 --> 00:11:06,971
- To see if it gets hit?
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- 00:11:06,973 --> 00:11:08,338
- Yes.
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- 00:11:08,340 --> 00:11:10,975
- Oh, Jesus. All right, go home
- to your family.
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- 00:11:10,977 --> 00:11:14,111
- And tell your colleagues that
- maybe they want to stay away...
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- 00:11:14,113 --> 00:11:15,446
- from the windows, okay?
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- 00:11:15,448 --> 00:11:17,515
- - Thanks, John.
- - Yeah.
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- 00:11:17,517 --> 00:11:19,520
- Okay. All right. Okay.
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- 00:11:22,421 --> 00:11:25,823
- <i>Their working thesis is that
- this is overseas terrorism...</i>
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- 00:11:25,825 --> 00:11:27,292
- <i>not domestic.</i>
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- 00:11:27,294 --> 00:11:29,494
- <i>Attention will quickly turn to
- the bin Laden group...</i>
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- 00:11:29,496 --> 00:11:31,295
- <i>because it has long
- tentacles.</i>
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- 00:11:31,297 --> 00:11:34,064
- <i>There are very few others that
- could have pulled this off.</i>
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- 00:11:34,066 --> 00:11:35,833
- Are we sending somebody
- to New York?
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- 00:11:35,835 --> 00:11:38,468
- Ken Moore at Suvu was already up
- there covering Wall Street.
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- 00:11:38,470 --> 00:11:39,971
- What's going on over at State?
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- 00:11:39,973 --> 00:11:41,840
- Powell's in Peru.
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- 00:11:41,842 --> 00:11:43,441
- They're working on getting
- him home as soon as possible.
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- 00:11:43,443 --> 00:11:46,311
- All right, what we need to do
- is track the President.
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- 00:11:46,313 --> 00:11:48,612
- Track his top people
- and find out...
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- 00:11:48,614 --> 00:11:50,848
- who's responsible for all this.
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- 00:11:50,850 --> 00:11:53,550
- We need as many sources
- at as many agencies...
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- 00:11:53,552 --> 00:11:56,855
- to go on the record and tell us
- all what we know has to be true.
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- 00:11:56,857 --> 00:12:00,357
- Al Qaeda! Al Qaeda!
- It's Al Qaeda.
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- 00:12:00,359 --> 00:12:01,895
- It's definitely Al Qaeda.
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- 00:12:03,262 --> 00:12:05,429
- What the hell are you wearing?
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- 00:12:05,431 --> 00:12:07,631
- Well, the wifey wanted
- to evacuate...
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- 00:12:07,633 --> 00:12:11,369
- but she locked the cat
- and the keys in the cars.
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- 00:12:11,371 --> 00:12:13,938
- So, I biked in.
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- 00:12:13,940 --> 00:12:17,909
- We need to know how
- they pulled this off.
- 210
- 00:12:17,911 --> 00:12:19,977
- Anybody needs to go home
- to their family...
- 211
- 00:12:19,979 --> 00:12:21,913
- feel free to do so.
- 212
- 00:12:21,915 --> 00:12:24,182
- Just came from the family.
- 213
- 00:12:24,184 --> 00:12:26,887
- Let's get to work.
- 214
- 00:12:28,121 --> 00:12:29,654
- It's Walcott.
- 215
- 00:12:29,656 --> 00:12:32,356
- <i>Today, our fellow citizens,
- our way of life...</i>
- 216
- 00:12:32,358 --> 00:12:37,127
- <i>our very freedom, came under
- attack in a series...</i>
- 217
- 00:12:37,129 --> 00:12:40,198
- <i>of deliberate and deadly
- terrorist acts.</i>
- 218
- 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:41,632
- Adam, hand me the
- Jameson, please.
- 219
- 00:12:41,634 --> 00:12:43,934
- Yes, sir. Here you go.
- 220
- 00:12:43,936 --> 00:12:45,238
- Thank you, son.
- 221
- 00:12:46,973 --> 00:12:48,305
- It's on the house, gentlemen.
- 222
- 00:12:48,307 --> 00:12:50,042
- Thanks.
- 223
- 00:12:51,074 --> 00:12:52,577
- Dad's saying we're staying open
- as late as they want.
- 224
- 00:12:52,579 --> 00:12:55,145
- MRS. GREEN:
- They must be scared.
- 225
- 00:12:55,147 --> 00:12:58,348
- - ADAM: They're Rangers.
- - They're boys.
- 226
- 00:12:58,350 --> 00:13:02,153
- <i>Our military is powerful and
- it's prepared.</i>
- 227
- 00:13:02,155 --> 00:13:03,621
- <i>The search is underway
- for those...</i>
- 228
- 00:13:03,623 --> 00:13:05,555
- <i>who are behind these evil acts.</i>
- 229
- 00:13:05,557 --> 00:13:08,293
- <i>I've directed the full
- resources of our intelligence..</i>
- 230
- 00:13:08,295 --> 00:13:11,496
- <i>and law enforcement communities
- to find those responsible...</i>
- 231
- 00:13:11,498 --> 00:13:14,368
- <i>and to bring them to justice.</i>
- 232
- 00:13:18,338 --> 00:13:21,005
- JENNINGS: <i>It's been 33 hours
- since the terrible...</i>
- 233
- 00:13:21,007 --> 00:13:23,408
- <i>and unprecedented attack
- on the United States.</i>
- 234
- 00:13:23,410 --> 00:13:26,443
- <i>There is, as we've said, an
- enormous search and rescue...</i>
- 235
- 00:13:26,445 --> 00:13:31,149
- <i>operation, and enormous and
- intense criminal investigation.</i>
- 236
- 00:13:31,151 --> 00:13:32,616
- <i>And we're just beginning
- to understand...</i>
- 237
- 00:13:32,618 --> 00:13:35,285
- <i>the extents of the catastrophe.</i>
- 238
- 00:13:35,287 --> 00:13:37,188
- OFFICIAL: I feel like I haven't
- slept in a month.
- 239
- 00:13:37,190 --> 00:13:39,122
- It's going to be a bunch
- of zombies running this town.
- 240
- 00:13:39,124 --> 00:13:40,591
- What do you know about
- the preliminary plans...
- 241
- 00:13:40,593 --> 00:13:42,260
- to go after bin Laden?
- 242
- 00:13:42,262 --> 00:13:44,194
- I don't have anything to give
- you on that yet.
- 243
- 00:13:44,196 --> 00:13:46,264
- Ok, well, how long before we're
- on the ground in Afghanistan...
- 244
- 00:13:46,266 --> 00:13:48,131
- and how long do they project
- we'll be there?
- 245
- 00:13:48,133 --> 00:13:51,635
- Look, I'm trying to get answers
- to the same questions you are.
- 246
- 00:13:51,637 --> 00:13:54,739
- What I can say is, most of the
- talk this morning...
- 247
- 00:13:54,741 --> 00:13:57,308
- hasn't been about Afghanistan.
- 248
- 00:13:57,310 --> 00:13:59,113
- Well, what's it been about?
- 249
- 00:14:00,747 --> 00:14:02,447
- Iraq?
- 250
- 00:14:02,449 --> 00:14:04,481
- I got it from a source at State
- who got it from the Pentagon.
- 251
- 00:14:04,483 --> 00:14:07,150
- In connection with the attacks?
- 252
- 00:14:07,152 --> 00:14:09,287
- Crackpot theories from people
- who don't know...
- 253
- 00:14:09,289 --> 00:14:10,587
- what the hell they're talking
- about.
- 254
- 00:14:10,589 --> 00:14:12,189
- It was Rumsfeld.
- 255
- 00:14:12,191 --> 00:14:13,757
- Really?
- 256
- 00:14:13,759 --> 00:14:16,193
- Yeah, apparently, there's a lot
- of people over at Defense...
- 257
- 00:14:16,195 --> 00:14:18,496
- that think this had to be
- State-sponsored.
- 258
- 00:14:18,498 --> 00:14:22,100
- I mean, not just Rumsfeld,
- there's also that smug...
- 259
- 00:14:22,102 --> 00:14:25,202
- son of a bitch at the Defense
- Policy Board...
- 260
- 00:14:25,204 --> 00:14:26,603
- the Prince of Darkness?
- 261
- 00:14:26,605 --> 00:14:28,539
- - Richard Perle.
- - Right. Perle.
- 262
- 00:14:28,541 --> 00:14:30,774
- And that neo-con over at the
- Project...
- 263
- 00:14:30,776 --> 00:14:33,311
- for the New American
- whatever the fuck...
- 264
- 00:14:33,313 --> 00:14:34,645
- New American Century,
- Bill Kristol.
- 265
- 00:14:34,647 --> 00:14:36,481
- That giant butthole,
- Bill Kristol.
- 266
- 00:14:36,483 --> 00:14:40,351
- And he's got to be creaming his
- little jammies over this.
- 267
- 00:14:40,353 --> 00:14:42,186
- Yeah, these think-tank boys...
- 268
- 00:14:42,188 --> 00:14:44,322
- have been trying to push out
- Saddam Hussein since '97.
- 269
- 00:14:44,324 --> 00:14:48,292
- They have this crazy theory that
- if they can just stick...
- 270
- 00:14:48,294 --> 00:14:50,361
- a Western-style of democracy in
- the Middle East...
- 271
- 00:14:50,363 --> 00:14:52,730
- it's going to magically
- proliferate...
- 272
- 00:14:52,732 --> 00:14:54,399
- and wind up protecting Israel.
- 273
- 00:14:54,401 --> 00:14:56,768
- You got to give them credit
- for creative thinking.
- 274
- 00:14:56,770 --> 00:14:59,236
- It's Ivory Tower crap.
- 275
- 00:14:59,238 --> 00:15:02,140
- I mean, in what world do they
- think that Osama bin Laden...
- 276
- 00:15:02,142 --> 00:15:04,775
- and Saddam Hussein hatched
- this thing up together?
- 277
- 00:15:04,777 --> 00:15:06,811
- Let's find out if these
- dickweeds...
- 278
- 00:15:06,813 --> 00:15:09,813
- are serious about Iraq, okay?
- 279
- 00:15:09,815 --> 00:15:11,616
- Look, I'm not saying there's
- a link to Iraq...
- 280
- 00:15:11,618 --> 00:15:13,183
- and neither is my boss.
- 281
- 00:15:13,185 --> 00:15:14,452
- This is just something
- we're hearing.
- 282
- 00:15:14,454 --> 00:15:15,752
- From whom?
- 283
- 00:15:15,754 --> 00:15:18,121
- Who told me or where is it
- coming from?
- 284
- 00:15:18,123 --> 00:15:19,557
- Take your pick.
- 285
- 00:15:19,559 --> 00:15:21,092
- Someone at the Pentagon.
- 286
- 00:15:21,094 --> 00:15:23,093
- In the Vice President's office?
- 287
- 00:15:23,095 --> 00:15:24,428
- It's just theories.
- 288
- 00:15:24,430 --> 00:15:26,430
- Are there any Senators talking
- to anyone...
- 289
- 00:15:26,432 --> 00:15:28,632
- saying anything different?
- 290
- 00:15:28,634 --> 00:15:30,268
- I know Powell's objected...
- 291
- 00:15:30,270 --> 00:15:33,737
- to going into anywhere other
- than Afghanistan.
- 292
- 00:15:33,739 --> 00:15:37,243
- <i>(DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING)</i>
- 293
- 00:16:05,338 --> 00:16:06,404
- Go away.
- 294
- 00:16:06,406 --> 00:16:07,737
- One question and I'm gone.
- 295
- 00:16:07,739 --> 00:16:09,473
- I'm not talking to you
- on the record.
- 296
- 00:16:09,475 --> 00:16:13,046
- Anonymous source, intelligence
- community.
- 297
- 00:16:14,214 --> 00:16:15,712
- You can't use my name.
- 298
- 00:16:15,714 --> 00:16:18,149
- Never have, never will.
- 299
- 00:16:18,151 --> 00:16:19,116
- Or my agency.
- 300
- 00:16:19,118 --> 00:16:21,055
- Pinky swear.
- 301
- 00:16:23,156 --> 00:16:25,890
- One question.
- 302
- 00:16:25,892 --> 00:16:28,796
- Are you looking into an Iraqi
- connection?
- 303
- 00:16:30,796 --> 00:16:33,530
- Who's the you in that question?
- 304
- 00:16:33,532 --> 00:16:35,298
- Are we in the United States?
- 305
- 00:16:35,300 --> 00:16:36,833
- There are some people.
- 306
- 00:16:36,835 --> 00:16:38,468
- Are we in my agency?
- 307
- 00:16:38,470 --> 00:16:40,371
- Not that I'm aware of.
- 308
- 00:16:40,373 --> 00:16:42,874
- Am I, personally?
- 309
- 00:16:42,876 --> 00:16:45,342
- No way.
- 310
- 00:16:45,344 --> 00:16:47,377
- Okay, the second part
- to the question.
- 311
- 00:16:47,379 --> 00:16:48,513
- No.
- 312
- 00:16:48,515 --> 00:16:50,184
- Thank you.
- 313
- 00:16:52,484 --> 00:16:54,751
- So, no one you work with at the
- Library of Congress has ever...
- 314
- 00:16:54,753 --> 00:16:56,821
- found a link between Saddam
- Hussein and Al Qaeda?
- 315
- 00:16:56,823 --> 00:16:59,524
- No one I work with
- would expect to find a link.
- 316
- 00:16:59,526 --> 00:17:01,324
- So, as far as you know...
- 317
- 00:17:01,326 --> 00:17:02,793
- there's nothing substantial to
- tie Iraq to bin Laden?
- 318
- 00:17:02,795 --> 00:17:04,461
- There's nothing even
- circumstantial.
- 319
- 00:17:04,463 --> 00:17:06,496
- To lump together a secular
- leader like Saddam...
- 320
- 00:17:06,498 --> 00:17:09,499
- with an Islamic extremist
- like bin Laden is simply...
- 321
- 00:17:09,501 --> 00:17:11,637
- to have no understanding
- of the Muslim world.
- 322
- 00:17:15,941 --> 00:17:17,874
- It's a bit timid.
- 323
- 00:17:17,876 --> 00:17:19,944
- No one's actually come out and
- said anything publicly yet.
- 324
- 00:17:19,946 --> 00:17:21,946
- Maybe it's just backroom
- speculation.
- 325
- 00:17:21,948 --> 00:17:23,480
- Pretty dangerous speculation.
- 326
- 00:17:23,482 --> 00:17:25,483
- Can't we hit it harder than
- this?
- 327
- 00:17:25,485 --> 00:17:27,418
- The attacks were just 10 days
- ago.
- 328
- 00:17:27,420 --> 00:17:28,553
- Everyone's trying to play
- catch-up.
- 329
- 00:17:28,555 --> 00:17:30,487
- Got to press our reliables.
- 330
- 00:17:30,489 --> 00:17:32,489
- I'll reach out to The Italian
- Lady.
- 331
- 00:17:32,491 --> 00:17:34,492
- You think you can get Loose
- Nukes to go on the record?
- 332
- 00:17:34,494 --> 00:17:36,761
- I'm lucky to get her on deep
- background.
- 333
- 00:17:36,763 --> 00:17:40,497
- Well, double down on the Charm
- Offensive.
- 334
- 00:17:40,499 --> 00:17:43,266
- <i>Buongiorno,</i> this is Warren
- Strobel.
- 335
- 00:17:43,268 --> 00:17:46,536
- I was looking to get your advice
- on a critical scheduling matter.
- 336
- 00:17:46,538 --> 00:17:49,607
- If you could contact me at your
- earliest possible convenience...
- 337
- 00:17:49,609 --> 00:17:52,576
- I would greatly appreciate it.
- Thank you.
- 338
- 00:17:52,578 --> 00:17:53,710
- LOOSE NUKES: <i>Hello.</i>
- 339
- 00:17:53,712 --> 00:17:55,513
- Yeah, hi, it's Jonathan.
- 340
- 00:17:55,515 --> 00:17:56,980
- LOOSE NUKES: <i>I don't have
- anything for you.</i>
- 341
- 00:17:56,982 --> 00:18:00,418
- No, I know, I know, but I'm
- doing a story...
- 342
- 00:18:00,420 --> 00:18:02,786
- on the administration's seeming
- interest in Iraq.
- 343
- 00:18:02,788 --> 00:18:04,788
- LOOSE NUKES: <i>Jonathan, we're
- not going to talk about this.</i>
- 344
- 00:18:04,790 --> 00:18:07,691
- No, I know, I know I'm not
- talking about this...
- 345
- 00:18:07,693 --> 00:18:10,995
- because it's off the record, but
- can you give me some indication?
- 346
- 00:18:10,997 --> 00:18:12,365
- LOOSE NUKES: <i>Bye, Jonathan.</i>
- 347
- 00:18:14,366 --> 00:18:15,699
- What'd she say?
- 348
- 00:18:15,701 --> 00:18:18,236
- She sends her love.
- 349
- 00:18:18,238 --> 00:18:19,637
- ANNOUNCER:
- <i>Across the nation...</i>
- 350
- 00:18:19,639 --> 00:18:21,572
- <i>flags have been flying off
- the shelves.</i>
- 351
- 00:18:21,574 --> 00:18:25,476
- <i>A wave of patriotism has been
- spreading across America.</i>
- 352
- 00:18:25,478 --> 00:18:29,280
- <i>At times like this,
- it's what we do in America.</i>
- 353
- 00:18:29,282 --> 00:18:32,682
- <i>We the People pull together.</i>
- 354
- 00:18:32,684 --> 00:18:34,685
- They had a discussion in school
- today...
- 355
- 00:18:34,687 --> 00:18:37,420
- about why America is so great,
- right?
- 356
- 00:18:37,422 --> 00:18:38,889
- Yeah, and what'd you say?
- 357
- 00:18:38,891 --> 00:18:40,490
- It's a free country.
- 358
- 00:18:40,492 --> 00:18:41,926
- That's a great answer.
- 359
- 00:18:41,928 --> 00:18:43,526
- That's Mama's boy.
- 360
- 00:18:43,528 --> 00:18:45,295
- May I be done now?
- 361
- 00:18:45,297 --> 00:18:47,297
- Not until I get a big hug.
- 362
- 00:18:47,299 --> 00:18:50,400
- Okay, after your mom gets a hug.
- 363
- 00:18:50,402 --> 00:18:51,971
- Oh, whoa!
- 364
- 00:18:54,673 --> 00:18:56,306
- Proud of you, munchie.
- 365
- 00:18:56,308 --> 00:18:58,211
- Love you.
- 366
- 00:19:00,446 --> 00:19:04,047
- They're really pushing this
- nationalism thing at school.
- 367
- 00:19:04,049 --> 00:19:05,815
- What do you expect?
- 368
- 00:19:05,817 --> 00:19:07,618
- Of course, there's
- going to be patriotism now.
- 369
- 00:19:07,620 --> 00:19:11,421
- Oh, you want to call it
- patriotism?
- 370
- 00:19:11,423 --> 00:19:12,922
- Fine.
- 371
- 00:19:12,924 --> 00:19:14,691
- It smells a lot like
- nationalism to me.
- 372
- 00:19:14,693 --> 00:19:19,663
- That's how it started in
- Yugoslavia before the war.
- 373
- 00:19:19,665 --> 00:19:21,634
- Tore my country apart.
- 374
- 00:19:44,957 --> 00:19:47,891
- You want some help?
- 375
- 00:19:47,893 --> 00:19:50,529
- No, I'm okay, thank you.
- 376
- 00:19:52,664 --> 00:19:54,631
- Okay, have a good night.
- 377
- 00:19:54,633 --> 00:19:55,635
- Good night.
- 378
- 00:20:03,543 --> 00:20:05,909
- How real is the Iraqi
- conversation?
- 379
- 00:20:05,911 --> 00:20:07,911
- There's an argument
- taking place.
- 380
- 00:20:07,913 --> 00:20:10,848
- Yeah? Who's winning it?
- 381
- 00:20:10,850 --> 00:20:12,615
- I couldn't say.
- 382
- 00:20:12,617 --> 00:20:16,853
- Look, my boss is gonna send me
- to Afghanistan, and all I want..
- 383
- 00:20:16,855 --> 00:20:20,390
- to know is should he be buying
- a roundtrip ticket...
- 384
- 00:20:20,392 --> 00:20:24,597
- or is Afghanistan just a
- layover on the way to Baghdad?
- 385
- 00:20:28,700 --> 00:20:31,468
- I can't tell you anything.
- 386
- 00:20:31,470 --> 00:20:33,504
- MYLROIE: <i>I believe major acts
- of terrorism...</i>
- 387
- 00:20:33,506 --> 00:20:36,607
- <i>against the U.S. are
- state-sponsored.</i>
- 388
- 00:20:36,609 --> 00:20:39,810
- <i>So, we asked ourselves,
- "Who could have been behind...</i>
- 389
- 00:20:39,812 --> 00:20:42,746
- <i>the most massive terrorist
- assault in human history...</i>
- 390
- 00:20:42,748 --> 00:20:44,648
- <i>"which state?"</i>
- 391
- 00:20:44,650 --> 00:20:49,853
- <i>I think Iraq is the state that
- most immediately comes to mind.</i>
- 392
- 00:20:49,855 --> 00:20:52,656
- - <i>This is an idea which in...</i>
- - <i>(PHONE RINGING)</i>
- 393
- 00:20:52,658 --> 00:20:54,725
- <i>is gaining increased
- credibility.</i>
- 394
- 00:20:54,727 --> 00:20:56,627
- Knight Ridder, it's Strobel.
- 395
- 00:20:56,629 --> 00:20:58,094
- THE ITALIAN LADY: <i>Jim Woolsey
- is going to Europe...</i>
- 396
- 00:20:58,096 --> 00:20:59,830
- <i>to try to find a link
- between Saddam...</i>
- 397
- 00:20:59,832 --> 00:21:02,602
- <i>and the 1993 World Trade Center
- bombing.</i>
- 398
- 00:21:03,769 --> 00:21:05,636
- Is he freelancing?
- 399
- 00:21:05,638 --> 00:21:07,772
- THE ITALIAN LADY: <i>He was sent
- on an official government jet.</i>
- 400
- 00:21:07,774 --> 00:21:10,006
- Jesus, who sent him?
- 401
- 00:21:10,008 --> 00:21:12,709
- THE ITALIAN LADY:
- <i>The deputy defense secretary.</i>
- 402
- 00:21:12,711 --> 00:21:14,911
- Can you meet for coffee?
- 403
- 00:21:14,913 --> 00:21:16,450
- THE ITALIAN LADY:
- <i>I'll be in touch.</i>
- 404
- 00:21:17,883 --> 00:21:19,883
- Hi, this is Warren
- Strobel with Knight Ridder.
- 405
- 00:21:19,885 --> 00:21:21,619
- I'm working on a story...
- 406
- 00:21:21,621 --> 00:21:23,187
- about former CIA director James
- Woolsey traveling to Europe.
- 407
- 00:21:23,189 --> 00:21:25,188
- Do you know anything about that?
- 408
- 00:21:25,190 --> 00:21:28,191
- DIPLOMAT: <i>I didn't have
- anything to do with that.</i>
- 409
- 00:21:28,193 --> 00:21:30,194
- But you're aware that such
- a trip has taken place?
- 410
- 00:21:30,196 --> 00:21:33,730
- DIPLOMAT: <i>I can't be your only
- source on this.</i>
- 411
- 00:21:33,732 --> 00:21:35,901
- All right, stay in touch.
- 412
- 00:21:37,702 --> 00:21:40,470
- Hey, John.
- 413
- 00:21:40,472 --> 00:21:42,605
- Woolsey was sent to Europe
- to look for evidence...
- 414
- 00:21:42,607 --> 00:21:45,543
- linking Saddam to the World
- Trade Center bombing in '93.
- 415
- 00:21:45,545 --> 00:21:48,711
- Wouldn't be a fool's errand if
- they didn't send a fool.
- 416
- 00:21:48,713 --> 00:21:50,547
- This came from The Italian Lady?
- 417
- 00:21:50,549 --> 00:21:51,748
- And a diplomat who can
- confirm...
- 418
- 00:21:51,750 --> 00:21:53,082
- the trip was arranged by
- Wolfowitz.
- 419
- 00:21:53,084 --> 00:21:54,752
- What the hell is going on
- over at Defense?
- 420
- 00:21:54,754 --> 00:21:56,786
- Question is, are they trying to
- figure out...
- 421
- 00:21:56,788 --> 00:21:58,555
- if there's any truth to their
- theory...
- 422
- 00:21:58,557 --> 00:22:01,191
- or are they already convinced
- their theory is true?
- 423
- 00:22:01,193 --> 00:22:02,927
- You're sure about
- this Woolsey trip?
- 424
- 00:22:02,929 --> 00:22:04,928
- - Positive.
- - You have a third source?
- 425
- 00:22:04,930 --> 00:22:06,030
- - Yeah.
- - Who?
- 426
- 00:22:06,032 --> 00:22:07,834
- Jim Woolsey.
- 427
- 00:22:20,112 --> 00:22:23,917
- Hey, it's Walcott,
- you up for a field trip?
- 428
- 00:22:26,786 --> 00:22:28,752
- I figured you'd be calling...
- 429
- 00:22:28,754 --> 00:22:30,557
- I just didn't think
- it would be this soon.
- 430
- 00:22:33,659 --> 00:22:35,758
- How real is the chatter
- about Iraq?
- 431
- 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,628
- Very.
- 432
- 00:22:37,630 --> 00:22:41,532
- And it's diverting our attention
- from the people who attacked us.
- 433
- 00:22:41,534 --> 00:22:44,171
- How soon before Iraq becomes
- the focus?
- 434
- 00:22:45,904 --> 00:22:48,639
- We need to blow something up.
- 435
- 00:22:48,641 --> 00:22:50,674
- Not enough targets in
- Afghanistan.
- 436
- 00:22:50,676 --> 00:22:51,809
- What about bin Laden?
- 437
- 00:22:51,811 --> 00:22:53,276
- You take out bin Laden...
- 438
- 00:22:53,278 --> 00:22:55,714
- interest in the war goes right
- down the shitter.
- 439
- 00:22:57,650 --> 00:23:00,851
- REPORTER: <i>A joint offensive in
- its sixth day in Tora Bora...</i>
- 440
- 00:23:00,853 --> 00:23:02,820
- <i>bin Laden's suspected
- hideout...</i>
- 441
- 00:23:02,822 --> 00:23:05,589
- <i>but still no signs of the
- world's most wanted man.</i>
- 442
- 00:23:05,591 --> 00:23:09,159
- <i>U.S. B-52s pounding Al Qaeda
- positions from the air...</i>
- 443
- 00:23:09,161 --> 00:23:10,894
- <i>while anti-Taliban tanks...</i>
- 444
- 00:23:10,896 --> 00:23:12,696
- <i>and troops meet strong
- resistance...</i>
- 445
- 00:23:12,698 --> 00:23:15,131
- <i>cave to cave,
- from Al Qaeda fighters.</i>
- 446
- 00:23:15,133 --> 00:23:17,001
- <i>With yet more conflicting
- reports...</i>
- 447
- 00:23:17,003 --> 00:23:19,005
- <i>on bin Laden's whereabouts.</i>
- 448
- 00:23:20,940 --> 00:23:22,672
- What you got there...
- 449
- 00:23:22,674 --> 00:23:24,675
- is that your State of the
- Union piece for tomorrow?
- 450
- 00:23:24,677 --> 00:23:26,709
- - Yup.
- - You got a lunch today?
- 451
- 00:23:26,711 --> 00:23:28,879
- Not with you.
- 452
- 00:23:28,881 --> 00:23:30,980
- I got a one-on-one with Looney
- Tunes over at State.
- 453
- 00:23:30,982 --> 00:23:32,582
- There's a dry hole.
- 454
- 00:23:32,584 --> 00:23:34,284
- Yeah, well, I figured if I just
- let him ramble on...
- 455
- 00:23:34,286 --> 00:23:36,320
- he'll accidentally stumble
- into something newsworthy.
- 456
- 00:23:36,322 --> 00:23:37,755
- Yeah, well, give my best.
- 457
- 00:23:37,757 --> 00:23:39,790
- I will. Hot off the presses,
- Beryl.
- 458
- 00:23:39,792 --> 00:23:41,225
- Did you use punctuation
- this time?
- 459
- 00:23:41,227 --> 00:23:43,159
- I even threw in a few semicolons
- just for you.
- 460
- 00:23:43,161 --> 00:23:46,764
- I bet you're the pride of the
- University of Missouri.
- 461
- 00:23:46,766 --> 00:23:50,801
- <i>Terrorists who once occupied
- Afghanistan...</i>
- 462
- 00:23:50,803 --> 00:23:53,672
- <i>now occupy cells
- at Guantanamo Bay.</i>
- 463
- 00:23:56,909 --> 00:23:59,976
- <i>And terrorist leaders who urged
- followers to sacrifice...</i>
- 464
- 00:23:59,978 --> 00:24:03,280
- <i>their lives are running'
- for their own.</i>
- 465
- 00:24:03,282 --> 00:24:07,851
- Now, the administration's top
- priority apart from our own...
- 466
- 00:24:07,853 --> 00:24:11,788
- security is to ensure
- freedom for other countries...
- 467
- 00:24:11,790 --> 00:24:16,060
- looking to embrace democracy
- as a way of life.
- 468
- 00:24:16,062 --> 00:24:18,861
- Now, we... excuse me... we
- understand that we can't...
- 469
- 00:24:18,863 --> 00:24:20,863
- be the policemen to the world...
- 470
- 00:24:20,865 --> 00:24:23,266
- but we feel we
- have a responsibility to...
- 471
- 00:24:23,268 --> 00:24:24,668
- Yeah, John Walcott.
- 472
- 00:24:24,670 --> 00:24:26,102
- DIXIE: <i>John!</i>
- 473
- 00:24:26,104 --> 00:24:27,236
- Dixie?
- 474
- 00:24:27,238 --> 00:24:28,706
- DIXIE: <i>John, can you hear me?</i>
- 475
- 00:24:28,708 --> 00:24:30,239
- Yeah, yeah, I can hear you.
- 476
- 00:24:30,241 --> 00:24:32,610
- I got a call from one of
- our boys downrange today...
- 477
- 00:24:32,612 --> 00:24:34,178
- asking me what the fuck's
- going on.
- 478
- 00:24:34,180 --> 00:24:35,979
- Are you still in Afghanistan?
- 479
- 00:24:35,981 --> 00:24:37,614
- Yeah, I'm in Afghanistan...
- 480
- 00:24:37,616 --> 00:24:39,115
- but nobody knows what the
- mission is anymore.
- 481
- 00:24:39,117 --> 00:24:41,051
- How do you bomb a country back
- into the Stone Age...
- 482
- 00:24:41,053 --> 00:24:43,219
- that's already in the middle
- of the goddamn Stone Age?
- 483
- 00:24:43,221 --> 00:24:46,357
- <i>Our second goal is to prevent
- regimes that sponsor terror...</i>
- 484
- 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,727
- <i>from threatening America,
- or our friends and allies...</i>
- 485
- 00:24:50,729 --> 00:24:52,630
- <i>with weapons of mass
- destruction.</i>
- 486
- 00:24:52,632 --> 00:24:56,667
- We believe that Afghanistan
- is ripe for freedom.
- 487
- 00:24:56,669 --> 00:25:00,070
- Now, this is a country that has
- been struggling to free...
- 488
- 00:25:00,072 --> 00:25:03,273
- <i>itself from the repressive grip
- of the Taliban for years.</i>
- 489
- 00:25:03,275 --> 00:25:06,643
- We've got bin Laden on the run
- and they're diverting my assets.
- 490
- 00:25:06,645 --> 00:25:08,411
- We may never get him in our
- crosshairs again.
- 491
- 00:25:08,413 --> 00:25:11,982
- Whoa, whoa, wait, they're
- diverting your assets to where?
- 492
- 00:25:11,984 --> 00:25:14,284
- <i>Some of these regimes have been
- pretty quiet since...</i>
- 493
- 00:25:14,286 --> 00:25:18,121
- <i>September the 11th, but we know
- their true nature.</i>
- 494
- 00:25:18,123 --> 00:25:21,958
- You know, it's a country in
- desperate need of the kind...
- 495
- 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,961
- of stability that comes with the
- rule of law.
- 496
- 00:25:24,963 --> 00:25:28,966
- <i>North Korea, Iran, Iraq...
- states like these...</i>
- 497
- 00:25:28,968 --> 00:25:33,871
- <i>and their terrorist allies
- constitute an axis of evil...</i>
- 498
- 00:25:33,873 --> 00:25:35,938
- <i>arming to threaten the
- peace of the world.</i>
- 499
- 00:25:35,940 --> 00:25:37,675
- You'll have to excuse me...
- 500
- 00:25:37,677 --> 00:25:40,244
- Warren, but I have to prepare
- a briefing for Secretary Powell.
- 501
- 00:25:40,246 --> 00:25:41,245
- Sure.
- 502
- 00:25:41,247 --> 00:25:42,412
- Anything else you need from me?
- 503
- 00:25:42,414 --> 00:25:44,180
- No, no, thank you.
- 504
- 00:25:44,182 --> 00:25:45,983
- I think you've given me
- more than enough to chew on.
- 505
- 00:25:45,985 --> 00:25:47,316
- Excellent.
- 506
- 00:25:47,318 --> 00:25:48,951
- And you feel confident that
- Afghanistan...
- 507
- 00:25:48,953 --> 00:25:50,286
- will accept a Western-style
- democracy?
- 508
- 00:25:50,288 --> 00:25:51,788
- Oh, absolutely.
- 509
- 00:25:51,790 --> 00:25:54,291
- Just as confident as
- we are about Iraq.
- 510
- 00:25:54,293 --> 00:25:58,062
- Sounds like the debate on Iraq
- is getting serious.
- 511
- 00:25:58,064 --> 00:26:00,863
- Oh, no, no, no, that debate
- is over.
- 512
- 00:26:00,865 --> 00:26:04,200
- Saddam's got to go,
- the only question is how.
- 513
- 00:26:04,202 --> 00:26:05,369
- Good talking to you, Warren.
- 514
- 00:26:05,371 --> 00:26:07,273
- Yeah, you, too, sir.
- 515
- 00:26:09,441 --> 00:26:11,207
- The president
- is going to invade Iraq.
- 516
- 00:26:11,209 --> 00:26:12,942
- WALCOTT:
- <i>You got this from Looney Tunes?</i>
- 517
- 00:26:12,944 --> 00:26:15,044
- Yeah, and confirmed by a
- diplomat who says he met...
- 518
- 00:26:15,046 --> 00:26:18,148
- with Bush, and a foreign leader
- recently who came away with...
- 519
- 00:26:18,150 --> 00:26:21,485
- "The feeling that a decision has
- been made to strike Iraq."
- 520
- 00:26:21,487 --> 00:26:23,786
- Do you think we can get enough
- to run the story?
- 521
- 00:26:23,788 --> 00:26:25,924
- Unfortunately, I do.
- 522
- 00:26:38,804 --> 00:26:40,403
- So much for the ceasefire.
- 523
- 00:26:40,405 --> 00:26:42,206
- Yeah, well, really nice of us...
- 524
- 00:26:42,208 --> 00:26:44,844
- to temporarily stop shooting
- at them, though.
- 525
- 00:26:56,255 --> 00:26:59,022
- ♪ I've been bound up
- and wound up ♪
- 526
- 00:26:59,024 --> 00:27:01,190
- ♪ Could barely get a sound up ♪
- 527
- 00:27:01,192 --> 00:27:02,993
- ♪ Been cheated mistreated ♪
- 528
- 00:27:02,995 --> 00:27:05,763
- ♪ Don't even want to
- think of it ♪
- 529
- 00:27:05,765 --> 00:27:07,765
- What are you up to, Smucker?
- 530
- 00:27:07,767 --> 00:27:11,001
- You know, I tried to chat
- with your translator today.
- 531
- 00:27:11,003 --> 00:27:12,535
- Yeah, how'd that go?
- 532
- 00:27:12,537 --> 00:27:15,272
- Well, for a guy who gets paid
- to talk for a living...
- 533
- 00:27:15,274 --> 00:27:17,975
- he was unusually quiet.
- 534
- 00:27:17,977 --> 00:27:20,310
- He only talks to me.
- 535
- 00:27:20,312 --> 00:27:24,413
- Really? And what'd he tell you?
- 536
- 00:27:24,415 --> 00:27:27,383
- Dollar, I'll let you read
- all about it.
- 537
- 00:27:27,385 --> 00:27:31,455
- Let me see it.
- 538
- 00:27:31,457 --> 00:27:35,559
- bin Laden's gone, isn't he?
- 539
- 00:27:35,561 --> 00:27:39,095
- They missed him, didn't they?
- 540
- 00:27:39,097 --> 00:27:43,368
- He was here and they fucking
- missed him!
- 541
- 00:27:45,403 --> 00:27:47,236
- REPORTER: <i>A senior U.S.
- military official...</i>
- 542
- 00:27:47,238 --> 00:27:49,473
- <i>tells NBC News "Despite the
- crushing defeat...</i>
- 543
- 00:27:49,475 --> 00:27:51,408
- <i>"of Al Qaeda forces
- at Tora Bora...</i>
- 544
- 00:27:51,410 --> 00:27:54,410
- <i>"it's believed now that Osama
- bin Laden has slipped...</i>
- 545
- 00:27:54,412 --> 00:27:56,947
- <i>"across the border into
- Pakistan, seeking refuge...</i>
- 546
- 00:27:56,949 --> 00:27:58,515
- <i>"in a lawless no man's land...</i>
- 547
- 00:27:58,517 --> 00:28:01,351
- <i>"ruled by renegade tribal
- warlords."</i>
- 548
- 00:28:01,353 --> 00:28:03,253
- Oh, it's official...
- 549
- 00:28:03,255 --> 00:28:06,089
- this is the saddest event
- I've ever attended.
- 550
- 00:28:06,091 --> 00:28:08,057
- I'm going back to my apartment,
- drink a bottle of wine...
- 551
- 00:28:08,059 --> 00:28:09,325
- and put my head in the oven.
- 552
- 00:28:09,327 --> 00:28:11,128
- Okay, but before you do that...
- 553
- 00:28:11,130 --> 00:28:14,096
- I really want you to meet the
- guy I was telling you about.
- 554
- 00:28:14,098 --> 00:28:16,065
- Oh! He just walked in!
- 555
- 00:28:16,067 --> 00:28:18,067
- Forget the wine, I'll kill
- myself now.
- 556
- 00:28:18,069 --> 00:28:22,371
- No, not him... him.
- I'll introduce you.
- 557
- 00:28:22,373 --> 00:28:23,506
- Pam, please don't.
- 558
- 00:28:23,508 --> 00:28:26,409
- - Warren! Hey!
- - Oh, hi.
- 559
- 00:28:26,411 --> 00:28:28,211
- Glad you could make it,
- come on over.
- 560
- 00:28:28,213 --> 00:28:31,582
- Warren, this is a
- good friend of mine, Lisa Mayr.
- 561
- 00:28:31,584 --> 00:28:33,449
- Lisa, this is Warren Strobel,
- he's a journalist...
- 562
- 00:28:33,451 --> 00:28:35,121
- and I'm gonna get another drink.
- 563
- 00:28:37,355 --> 00:28:39,022
- Hi, uh, Lisa?
- 564
- 00:28:39,024 --> 00:28:40,457
- - Yeah.
- - Yeah, nice to meet you.
- 565
- 00:28:40,459 --> 00:28:42,128
- - Hi.
- - Uh...
- 566
- 00:28:43,461 --> 00:28:46,463
- Did you ever make it
- into your apartment?
- 567
- 00:28:46,465 --> 00:28:50,967
- Uh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,
- no, no, no, I'm sorry.
- 568
- 00:28:50,969 --> 00:28:54,406
- - Yeah, I made it in okay.
- - Good. Good.
- 569
- 00:28:56,141 --> 00:28:58,274
- So, you're a journalist?
- 570
- 00:28:58,276 --> 00:29:01,143
- Yeah, yeah, for Knight Ridder.
- 571
- 00:29:01,145 --> 00:29:03,947
- Oh, is that a magazine
- or a newspaper?
- 572
- 00:29:03,949 --> 00:29:09,052
- It's actually a consortium
- of 31 newspapers, actually.
- 573
- 00:29:09,054 --> 00:29:10,586
- Well, my stories go out to all
- of our newspapers...
- 574
- 00:29:10,588 --> 00:29:14,091
- and each one has the option
- to publish or not.
- 575
- 00:29:14,093 --> 00:29:17,127
- Oh, okay. I've always wondered
- how that worked.
- 576
- 00:29:17,129 --> 00:29:18,430
- Yeah.
- 577
- 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,669
- Hey, I got married when
- I was 22.
- 578
- 00:29:25,671 --> 00:29:29,339
- And we're only recently
- separated, so...
- 579
- 00:29:29,341 --> 00:29:31,941
- This is a little awkward for me.
- 580
- 00:29:31,943 --> 00:29:33,310
- It's okay.
- 581
- 00:29:33,312 --> 00:29:35,245
- I'm a little out of practice.
- 582
- 00:29:35,247 --> 00:29:39,082
- Why don't you start
- by asking me a question?
- 583
- 00:29:39,084 --> 00:29:41,854
- Sure, yeah.
- 584
- 00:29:43,655 --> 00:29:45,924
- Are you a Republican
- or a Democrat?
- 585
- 00:29:47,426 --> 00:29:49,258
- Try again.
- 586
- 00:29:49,260 --> 00:29:52,295
- Yeah, of course, she wants you
- to call her.
- 587
- 00:29:52,297 --> 00:29:54,031
- She gave you her card.
- 588
- 00:29:54,033 --> 00:29:56,166
- No, maybe she's just trying
- to gin up business.
- 589
- 00:29:56,168 --> 00:29:58,669
- At a singles mixer
- on Valentine's Day?
- 590
- 00:29:58,671 --> 00:30:00,938
- What? So, call her? I should
- call her?
- 591
- 00:30:00,940 --> 00:30:02,973
- What? No, no, no,
- actually, let her dangle.
- 592
- 00:30:02,975 --> 00:30:04,941
- There's nothing a woman in her
- 30s likes more...
- 593
- 00:30:04,943 --> 00:30:07,177
- than a guy who takes his time.
- 594
- 00:30:07,179 --> 00:30:09,012
- I'm fine, Arthur, I'm fine.
- 595
- 00:30:09,014 --> 00:30:11,480
- It's just that I'm getting a
- little tired...
- 596
- 00:30:11,482 --> 00:30:13,417
- of picking up your paper
- every morning...
- 597
- 00:30:13,419 --> 00:30:15,384
- and seeing that you're not
- running our stories.
- 598
- 00:30:15,386 --> 00:30:17,219
- I mean, last time I looked...
- 599
- 00:30:17,221 --> 00:30:21,057
- The Philadelphia Inquirer was
- a Knight Ridder paper, right?
- 600
- 00:30:21,059 --> 00:30:24,961
- The point is, there's no point
- in being a Knight Ridder paper..
- 601
- 00:30:24,963 --> 00:30:26,697
- if you're not going to run
- Knight Ridder stories.
- 602
- 00:30:26,699 --> 00:30:28,732
- John, we've been through
- this already.
- 603
- 00:30:28,734 --> 00:30:30,434
- Your stories don't fit...
- 604
- 00:30:30,436 --> 00:30:33,269
- in with what we're doing
- over here right now.
- 605
- 00:30:33,271 --> 00:30:35,371
- Don't fit? Don't fit with what?
- The truth?
- 606
- 00:30:35,373 --> 00:30:37,274
- <i>What's the matter, Arthur...</i>
- 607
- 00:30:37,276 --> 00:30:39,008
- the truth doesn't sell
- papers anymore?
- 608
- 00:30:39,010 --> 00:30:40,476
- BROKAW: <i>And today, for the
- first time...</i>
- 609
- 00:30:40,478 --> 00:30:42,278
- <i>the administration provided...</i>
- 610
- 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,381
- <i>details for what it has always
- insisted was a connection...</i>
- 611
- 00:30:45,383 --> 00:30:48,150
- <i>between Saddam Hussein
- and Al Qaeda.</i>
- 612
- 00:30:48,152 --> 00:30:49,719
- <i>How strong is that case?</i>
- 613
- 00:30:49,721 --> 00:30:52,022
- REPORTER: <i>Iraqi president
- Saddam Hussein says...</i>
- 614
- 00:30:52,024 --> 00:30:54,992
- <i>he does not have any illegal
- weapons of mass destruction...</i>
- 615
- 00:30:54,994 --> 00:30:58,195
- <i>and accused the United States
- of using weapons...</i>
- 616
- 00:30:58,197 --> 00:31:00,730
- <i>as a pretext to start a war.</i>
- 617
- 00:31:00,732 --> 00:31:05,034
- Mr. Galloway, how closely did
- the movie conform to your book?
- 618
- 00:31:05,036 --> 00:31:08,438
- The movie was about 80% accurate
- and 20% bullshit...
- 619
- 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,411
- which I guess by Hollywood
- standards is an accomplishment.
- 620
- 00:31:14,013 --> 00:31:16,679
- What inspired you to write
- the book?
- 621
- 00:31:16,681 --> 00:31:19,082
- Being shot at by the North
- Vietnamese army.
- 622
- 00:31:19,084 --> 00:31:21,284
- What was the biggest difference
- between experiencing...
- 623
- 00:31:21,286 --> 00:31:25,589
- the Battle of Ia Drang in person
- versus watching it in a theater?
- 624
- 00:31:25,591 --> 00:31:27,493
- The popcorn in Ia Drang was
- saltier.
- 625
- 00:31:29,061 --> 00:31:30,427
- Last question.
- 626
- 00:31:30,429 --> 00:31:32,528
- Can you draw any comparisons
- between Vietnam...
- 627
- 00:31:32,530 --> 00:31:35,131
- and what's happening today
- in Afghanistan?
- 628
- 00:31:35,133 --> 00:31:38,267
- It's very different, but I think
- it is appropriate...
- 629
- 00:31:38,269 --> 00:31:42,272
- that before we start dropping
- bombs, we think long and hard...
- 630
- 00:31:42,274 --> 00:31:45,042
- about the greatest lesson
- we got from Vietnam.
- 631
- 00:31:45,044 --> 00:31:46,676
- Which is?
- 632
- 00:31:46,678 --> 00:31:51,247
- When the government fucks up,
- the soldiers pay the price.
- 633
- 00:31:51,249 --> 00:31:54,316
- To what do I owe this
- unexpected visit?
- 634
- 00:31:54,318 --> 00:31:56,652
- Well, I was hoping I'd get
- an autograph...
- 635
- 00:31:56,654 --> 00:31:59,255
- from the world's most famous
- war correspondent.
- 636
- 00:31:59,257 --> 00:32:03,259
- I hate this part. Reporters are
- not supposed to be the story.
- 637
- 00:32:03,261 --> 00:32:06,463
- Reporters are not supposed to be
- awarded the Bronze Star, either.
- 638
- 00:32:06,465 --> 00:32:08,832
- How do you like the job
- at State?
- 639
- 00:32:08,834 --> 00:32:10,467
- I love working for General
- Powell...
- 640
- 00:32:10,469 --> 00:32:12,134
- and I hate working
- for Uncle Sam.
- 641
- 00:32:12,136 --> 00:32:13,637
- You miss reporting?
- 642
- 00:32:13,639 --> 00:32:15,471
- After 42 years, I thought...
- 643
- 00:32:15,473 --> 00:32:17,274
- I should take some time
- away from it.
- 644
- 00:32:17,276 --> 00:32:20,744
- So, I went to work at the State
- Department on September 10th...
- 645
- 00:32:20,746 --> 00:32:23,112
- and the next day the biggest
- story of my life broke.
- 646
- 00:32:23,114 --> 00:32:25,782
- I'd say there's a little bit
- of a tug.
- 647
- 00:32:25,784 --> 00:32:29,518
- We're working on something
- important, that's why I'm here.
- 648
- 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,588
- To make me envious?
- 649
- 00:32:31,590 --> 00:32:34,424
- To make you an offer.
- 650
- 00:32:34,426 --> 00:32:37,726
- HANNITY: <i>If he gets weapons
- of mass destruction, Jerry.</i>
- 651
- 00:32:37,728 --> 00:32:39,795
- <i>What does that mean
- for the world?</i>
- 652
- 00:32:39,797 --> 00:32:41,531
- <i>What does that mean
- for the Middle East?</i>
- 653
- 00:32:41,533 --> 00:32:43,499
- - Can you turn it down?
- - I'm trying to watch the news.
- 654
- 00:32:43,501 --> 00:32:45,768
- Stop calling it that.
- 655
- 00:32:45,770 --> 00:32:47,272
- Hey, son.
- 656
- 00:32:52,311 --> 00:32:54,844
- Adam, what's the matter?
- 657
- 00:32:54,846 --> 00:32:57,416
- I met with a recruiter.
- 658
- 00:33:02,121 --> 00:33:04,390
- HANNITY: <i>A lot of people
- are gonna die, Jerry.</i>
- 659
- 00:33:08,392 --> 00:33:10,127
- You know once you sign up...
- 660
- 00:33:10,129 --> 00:33:11,727
- there's no changing your mind,
- right?
- 661
- 00:33:11,729 --> 00:33:13,229
- I know.
- 662
- 00:33:13,231 --> 00:33:14,864
- What do you know?
- You're just a kid.
- 663
- 00:33:14,866 --> 00:33:17,367
- Whose country was attacked.
- 664
- 00:33:17,369 --> 00:33:19,636
- Adam, I know you want to do what
- you think is right...
- 665
- 00:33:19,638 --> 00:33:22,205
- but war is not a video game.
- 666
- 00:33:22,207 --> 00:33:24,341
- You have no idea what
- you're getting into.
- 667
- 00:33:24,343 --> 00:33:26,711
- I know exactly what
- I'm getting into.
- 668
- 00:33:30,915 --> 00:33:33,149
- Here.
- 669
- 00:33:33,151 --> 00:33:37,720
- Show me where Afghanistan
- is on this map.
- 670
- 00:33:37,722 --> 00:33:40,422
- Show me.
- 671
- 00:33:40,424 --> 00:33:42,258
- They're gonna send you halfway
- around the world to fight...
- 672
- 00:33:42,260 --> 00:33:44,794
- people you didn't even know
- existed a year ago.
- 673
- 00:33:44,796 --> 00:33:47,496
- If you know what you're
- getting into...
- 674
- 00:33:47,498 --> 00:33:51,534
- show me where Afghanistan
- is on this map.
- 675
- 00:33:51,536 --> 00:33:54,603
- Did anyone ever shove a map
- in Dad's face...
- 676
- 00:33:54,605 --> 00:33:57,309
- and ask him to find Vietnam?
- 677
- 00:34:03,614 --> 00:34:07,350
- CHENEY: <i>We now know that
- Saddam has resumed...</i>
- 678
- 00:34:07,352 --> 00:34:09,886
- <i>his efforts to acquire
- nuclear weapons.</i>
- 679
- 00:34:09,888 --> 00:34:12,688
- <i>Among other sources, we've
- gotten this from firsthand...</i>
- 680
- 00:34:12,690 --> 00:34:14,457
- <i>testimony from defectors.</i>
- 681
- 00:34:14,459 --> 00:34:17,259
- <i>Many of us are convinced
- that Saddam Hussein...</i>
- 682
- 00:34:17,261 --> 00:34:19,962
- <i>will acquire nuclear weapons
- fairly soon.</i>
- 683
- 00:34:19,964 --> 00:34:23,799
- <i>Simply stated, there is no
- doubt that Saddam Hussein...</i>
- 684
- 00:34:23,801 --> 00:34:25,701
- <i>now has weapons of mass
- destruction.</i>
- 685
- 00:34:25,703 --> 00:34:28,605
- They're dialing up
- the rhetoric on Iraq.
- 686
- 00:34:28,607 --> 00:34:30,710
- Let's see if we can nail
- them down, okay?
- 687
- 00:34:32,777 --> 00:34:35,545
- Twenty bucks, whoever gets
- the best quote.
- 688
- 00:34:35,547 --> 00:34:38,480
- No, no, no, you're such a child.
- 689
- 00:34:38,482 --> 00:34:39,616
- You're such a pussy.
- 690
- 00:34:39,618 --> 00:34:41,217
- I'm not taking your money.
- 691
- 00:34:41,219 --> 00:34:42,719
- You get all bent out of shape
- when you lose.
- 692
- 00:34:42,721 --> 00:34:44,487
- I don't care. I'm just the same
- when I win or lose.
- 693
- 00:34:44,489 --> 00:34:46,255
- I'm not... it's not a bet,
- all right, fine.
- 694
- 00:34:46,257 --> 00:34:47,857
- Warren Strobel for Senator
- Biden, please.
- 695
- 00:34:47,859 --> 00:34:49,692
- Son of a bitch.
- 696
- 00:34:49,694 --> 00:34:52,362
- Biden told Bush, "There's a
- reason your father didn't go...
- 697
- 00:34:52,364 --> 00:34:53,529
- "to Baghdad. He knew he would
- have to stay...
- 698
- 00:34:53,531 --> 00:34:54,998
- "for at least five years."
- 699
- 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,667
- I got Michael O'Hanlon
- at Brookings saying...
- 700
- 00:34:57,669 --> 00:35:00,306
- "You definitely cannot
- count on it being a cakewalk."
- 701
- 00:35:01,672 --> 00:35:03,672
- We gotta hit it harder
- than that.
- 702
- 00:35:03,674 --> 00:35:05,908
- All right, well, hang on. I got
- an official at the U.N...
- 703
- 00:35:05,910 --> 00:35:07,611
- that says, "There's widespread
- concern...
- 704
- 00:35:07,613 --> 00:35:09,779
- "that this will destabilize
- the whole Middle East."
- 705
- 00:35:09,781 --> 00:35:12,348
- Let me see what you have.
- 706
- 00:35:12,350 --> 00:35:13,616
- Well, wait, I got... I got...
- 707
- 00:35:13,618 --> 00:35:15,585
- Just give it to me,
- give, give, give.
- 708
- 00:35:15,587 --> 00:35:16,752
- Okay.
- 709
- 00:35:16,754 --> 00:35:18,788
- All right.
- 710
- 00:35:18,790 --> 00:35:22,460
- Let's see here... all right.
- 711
- 00:36:08,873 --> 00:36:10,940
- You guys are smart.
- 712
- 00:36:10,942 --> 00:36:13,509
- You know what's unfolding here.
- 713
- 00:36:13,511 --> 00:36:17,515
- Our readers need to know what
- we've learned.
- 714
- 00:36:21,085 --> 00:36:24,721
- "In the best case scenario, U.S.
- troops could be stuck in Iraq...
- 715
- 00:36:24,723 --> 00:36:27,891
- "for years trying to teach the
- inner workings of democracy...
- 716
- 00:36:27,893 --> 00:36:31,761
- "to a nation that has never
- known it. In the worst case...
- 717
- 00:36:31,763 --> 00:36:35,732
- "scenario, an invasion could
- cause Iraq's fractious ethnic...
- 718
- 00:36:35,734 --> 00:36:38,567
- "groups to break off into their
- own mini-states...
- 719
- 00:36:38,569 --> 00:36:41,603
- "trapping American combat forces
- in the middle...
- 720
- 00:36:41,605 --> 00:36:44,276
- "of a bloody civil war
- for decades."
- 721
- 00:36:46,777 --> 00:36:48,745
- Boss man's got balls.
- 722
- 00:36:48,747 --> 00:36:50,815
- Yeah.
- 723
- 00:37:16,107 --> 00:37:25,047
- Shit.
- 724
- 00:37:25,049 --> 00:37:26,382
- Were those for me?
- 725
- 00:37:26,384 --> 00:37:29,886
- No. Yes.
- 726
- 00:37:29,888 --> 00:37:34,556
- But I thought it might be
- a little, I don't know...
- 727
- 00:37:34,558 --> 00:37:36,658
- a little too soon to be giving
- each other gifts.
- 728
- 00:37:36,660 --> 00:37:38,594
- It would've been all right.
- 729
- 00:37:38,596 --> 00:37:39,862
- Okay.
- 730
- 00:37:39,864 --> 00:37:42,498
- Well, I think they landed
- on my car...
- 731
- 00:37:42,500 --> 00:37:44,533
- so if you want to grab them
- on the way to dinner...
- 732
- 00:37:44,535 --> 00:37:46,603
- maybe we can do that?
- 733
- 00:37:46,605 --> 00:37:48,474
- - Great.
- - Great.
- 734
- 00:37:51,609 --> 00:37:54,777
- Okay, so what was the most
- embarrassing thing...
- 735
- 00:37:54,779 --> 00:37:56,348
- you did to prepare for tonight?
- 736
- 00:37:59,116 --> 00:38:01,083
- All right.
- 737
- 00:38:01,085 --> 00:38:03,585
- I will admit, that to prepare
- for tonight...
- 738
- 00:38:03,587 --> 00:38:05,721
- I did kind of a cram session
- on Iraq...
- 739
- 00:38:05,723 --> 00:38:08,725
- and the history of the Muslim
- world.
- 740
- 00:38:08,727 --> 00:38:09,859
- Really?
- 741
- 00:38:09,861 --> 00:38:11,627
- Yes.
- 742
- 00:38:11,629 --> 00:38:14,129
- Now I know that 1400 years ago,
- after the death of Muhammad...
- 743
- 00:38:14,131 --> 00:38:16,498
- Muslims fought over who was to
- be his rightful heir...
- 744
- 00:38:16,500 --> 00:38:18,167
- and that caused a split
- into two factions...
- 745
- 00:38:18,169 --> 00:38:19,569
- the Sunnis and the Shiites.
- 746
- 00:38:19,571 --> 00:38:21,136
- And they've been at war
- ever since.
- 747
- 00:38:21,138 --> 00:38:23,172
- Then, at the end of World War I,
- the British and the French...
- 748
- 00:38:23,174 --> 00:38:26,141
- arbitrarily divided the Arab
- world into countries...
- 749
- 00:38:26,143 --> 00:38:28,143
- putting the Sunni majority
- in charge.
- 750
- 00:38:28,145 --> 00:38:32,882
- But the country that became Iraq
- is made up of only 20% Sunni.
- 751
- 00:38:32,884 --> 00:38:37,554
- So, Saddam Hussein, a Sunni,
- with an iron fist rules...
- 752
- 00:38:37,556 --> 00:38:38,987
- the majority Shiite
- population...
- 753
- 00:38:38,989 --> 00:38:42,558
- and the 20% Kurdish population
- in northern Iraq.
- 754
- 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,527
- But if Saddam Hussein were
- removed, it could possibly...
- 755
- 00:38:45,529 --> 00:38:48,096
- reignite that 1400-year-old
- sectarian war.
- 756
- 00:38:48,098 --> 00:38:50,199
- Now, after reading <i>your</i>
- stories...
- 757
- 00:38:50,201 --> 00:38:53,870
- I know that Iran is the top
- sponsor of terror, not Iraq.
- 758
- 00:38:53,872 --> 00:38:57,507
- That a man named Ahmed Chalabi
- seems to be a con artist...
- 759
- 00:38:57,509 --> 00:38:59,509
- who wants to replace
- Saddam Hussein.
- 760
- 00:38:59,511 --> 00:39:01,210
- That the neo-cons in the Bush
- Administration...
- 761
- 00:39:01,212 --> 00:39:02,846
- are pushing for an invasion.
- 762
- 00:39:02,848 --> 00:39:06,482
- And you are quickly becoming
- my favorite writer.
- 763
- 00:39:06,484 --> 00:39:08,053
- Wow.
- 764
- 00:39:12,122 --> 00:39:16,725
- Um... I guess it's my turn.
- 765
- 00:39:16,727 --> 00:39:17,826
- Give it to me.
- 766
- 00:39:17,828 --> 00:39:20,897
- Okay, I will admit that...
- 767
- 00:39:20,899 --> 00:39:24,533
- This is a little embarrassing.
- 768
- 00:39:24,535 --> 00:39:29,571
- I asked my ex-wife to watch
- my two sons tonight.
- 769
- 00:39:29,573 --> 00:39:31,140
- Why is that embarrassing?
- 770
- 00:39:31,142 --> 00:39:33,076
- Because a babysitter would
- expect me home...
- 771
- 00:39:33,078 --> 00:39:37,013
- at the end of the evening and...
- 772
- 00:39:37,015 --> 00:39:40,083
- Should we get the check?
- 773
- 00:39:40,085 --> 00:39:43,553
- Tell your boss we're gonna run
- it whether he comments or not!
- 774
- 00:39:43,555 --> 00:39:46,656
- Actually yes, it is a matter
- of life and death!
- 775
- 00:39:46,658 --> 00:39:50,292
- We're talking about going
- to fucking war!
- 776
- 00:39:50,294 --> 00:39:52,730
- Hello?
- 777
- 00:39:54,098 --> 00:39:56,866
- I'm guessing that was
- a no comment?
- 778
- 00:39:56,868 --> 00:39:59,067
- What are you grinning
- about?
- 779
- 00:39:59,069 --> 00:40:00,770
- What? I'm not grinning.
- 780
- 00:40:00,772 --> 00:40:03,540
- - You're grinning.
- - I'm not grinning.
- 781
- 00:40:03,542 --> 00:40:04,908
- - I'm not...
- - What have you got over there?
- 782
- 00:40:04,910 --> 00:40:06,643
- Relax! Don't worry about it.
- 783
- 00:40:06,645 --> 00:40:08,143
- Oh my God, she could
- do my taxes.
- 784
- 00:40:08,145 --> 00:40:10,045
- - All right, relax.
- - <i>(PHONE RINGING)</i>
- 785
- 00:40:10,047 --> 00:40:12,685
- - Strobel, Knight Ridder.
- - Of course.
- 786
- 00:40:15,687 --> 00:40:17,819
- Okay.
- 787
- 00:40:17,821 --> 00:40:20,123
- All right, I'll be right there.
- 788
- 00:40:20,125 --> 00:40:22,094
- Let's go, this could be
- something.
- 789
- 00:40:26,997 --> 00:40:29,065
- So, how does this work?
- 790
- 00:40:29,067 --> 00:40:32,171
- Do you ask me questions or do
- I just start talking?
- 791
- 00:40:33,270 --> 00:40:35,804
- Why don't you just begin...
- 792
- 00:40:35,806 --> 00:40:37,205
- and we'll ask the questions
- when we have them.
- 793
- 00:40:37,207 --> 00:40:39,741
- If it's off the record,
- I have to say so, right?
- 794
- 00:40:39,743 --> 00:40:42,178
- Do you want it to be
- off the record?
- 795
- 00:40:42,180 --> 00:40:45,848
- I want people to know what
- I know, but not who I am.
- 796
- 00:40:45,850 --> 00:40:47,616
- It'll be background.
- 797
- 00:40:47,618 --> 00:40:50,055
- You'll be referred to
- as a U.S. official.
- 798
- 00:40:56,962 --> 00:40:59,732
- So, whatever you feel
- comfortable telling us.
- 799
- 00:41:03,134 --> 00:41:06,335
- I believe your prediction about
- what could and will happen...
- 800
- 00:41:06,337 --> 00:41:08,904
- if we go to war is spot on.
- 801
- 00:41:08,906 --> 00:41:11,641
- And we're a lot closer
- than you think.
- 802
- 00:41:11,643 --> 00:41:13,208
- How close?
- 803
- 00:41:13,210 --> 00:41:16,279
- A secret war planning group
- with a parallel intelligence...
- 804
- 00:41:16,281 --> 00:41:18,880
- operation has been set up
- to bypass...
- 805
- 00:41:18,882 --> 00:41:21,150
- the rest of the
- intelligence community.
- 806
- 00:41:21,152 --> 00:41:22,685
- How do you know this?
- 807
- 00:41:22,687 --> 00:41:25,120
- They meet in the building
- where I work.
- 808
- 00:41:25,122 --> 00:41:27,123
- And which building is that?
- 809
- 00:41:27,125 --> 00:41:31,861
- The one with the five sides.
- 810
- 00:41:31,863 --> 00:41:32,962
- But you're not a part
- of that unit?
- 811
- 00:41:32,964 --> 00:41:34,196
- No.
- 812
- 00:41:34,198 --> 00:41:35,832
- So, how do you know about this?
- 813
- 00:41:35,834 --> 00:41:38,100
- My desk is across the hall.
- 814
- 00:41:38,102 --> 00:41:40,402
- What office do you work for?
- 815
- 00:41:40,404 --> 00:41:45,007
- Near East South Asia division,
- but you can't disclose that.
- 816
- 00:41:45,009 --> 00:41:47,009
- You're an analyst?
- 817
- 00:41:47,011 --> 00:41:51,047
- Yes... but you can't disclose
- that, either.
- 818
- 00:41:51,049 --> 00:41:53,315
- I'm speaking to you because
- I'm an American citizen...
- 819
- 00:41:53,317 --> 00:41:55,917
- and I don't like what these
- people are doing.
- 820
- 00:41:55,919 --> 00:41:59,288
- Half a dozen men, most of whom
- have never served...
- 821
- 00:41:59,290 --> 00:42:01,424
- in the military are making
- decisions...
- 822
- 00:42:01,426 --> 00:42:04,893
- based on shoddy intelligence,
- and those decisions...
- 823
- 00:42:04,895 --> 00:42:07,362
- will impact our men
- and women in uniform.
- 824
- 00:42:07,364 --> 00:42:14,670
- And as someone who has worn that
- uniform, I can't remain silent.
- 825
- 00:42:14,672 --> 00:42:19,975
- You said shoddy intelligence.
- What do you mean by that?
- 826
- 00:42:19,977 --> 00:42:23,078
- They've designed a process
- that doesn't conform...
- 827
- 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,248
- to any basic tenet
- of intelligence gathering.
- 828
- 00:42:26,250 --> 00:42:27,750
- In what way?
- 829
- 00:42:27,752 --> 00:42:29,951
- A decision is made,
- then the intelligence...
- 830
- 00:42:29,953 --> 00:42:33,388
- is sought to support
- that decision.
- 831
- 00:42:33,390 --> 00:42:34,991
- How do you know this?
- 832
- 00:42:34,993 --> 00:42:37,993
- They have no interest
- in Arabic speakers.
- 833
- 00:42:37,995 --> 00:42:40,797
- Israelis come in without
- passes...
- 834
- 00:42:40,799 --> 00:42:43,966
- without even being entered
- into a security log.
- 835
- 00:42:43,968 --> 00:42:47,103
- And for years the government has
- been funding a group...
- 836
- 00:42:47,105 --> 00:42:51,473
- of exiled dissidents called the
- Iraqi National Congress.
- 837
- 00:42:51,475 --> 00:42:53,710
- Led by Ahmad Chalabi, we know.
- 838
- 00:42:53,712 --> 00:42:56,745
- Who they want to install
- as the new leader of Iraq.
- 839
- 00:42:56,747 --> 00:42:58,815
- Yeah, we've been trying to get
- a meeting with him.
- 840
- 00:42:58,817 --> 00:43:01,085
- Do you know who set up
- this operation?
- 841
- 00:43:04,955 --> 00:43:07,890
- Donald Rumsfeld.
- 842
- 00:43:07,892 --> 00:43:09,958
- <i>Is there any evidence to
- indicate that Iraq...</i>
- 843
- 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:14,429
- <i>has attempted to or is willing
- to supply terrorists...</i>
- 844
- 00:43:14,431 --> 00:43:16,732
- <i>with weapons of mass
- destruction?</i>
- 845
- 00:43:16,734 --> 00:43:21,203
- <i>The reports that say that
- something hasn't happened...</i>
- 846
- 00:43:21,205 --> 00:43:24,841
- <i>are always interesting to me
- because as we know...</i>
- 847
- 00:43:24,843 --> 00:43:29,078
- <i>there are known knowns, there
- are things we know we know.</i>
- 848
- 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,413
- <i>We also know there are known
- unknowns.</i>
- 849
- 00:43:31,415 --> 00:43:34,951
- <i>That is to say, we know there
- are some things we do not know.</i>
- 850
- 00:43:34,953 --> 00:43:37,487
- <i>But there are also unknown
- unknowns.</i>
- 851
- 00:43:37,489 --> 00:43:39,321
- <i>The one's we don't know
- we don't know.</i>
- 852
- 00:43:39,323 --> 00:43:41,891
- We're working on a theory that
- the administration...
- 853
- 00:43:41,893 --> 00:43:43,391
- has already decided to go
- to war...
- 854
- 00:43:43,393 --> 00:43:45,328
- and is now focused on how
- to justify it.
- 855
- 00:43:45,330 --> 00:43:47,196
- It's not a theory.
- 856
- 00:43:47,198 --> 00:43:49,766
- We've also been told by a number
- of individuals that...
- 857
- 00:43:49,768 --> 00:43:52,835
- Rumsfeld's the one spearheading
- this intelligence gathering.
- 858
- 00:43:52,837 --> 00:43:55,237
- I wouldn't exactly
- call it intelligence gathering.
- 859
- 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,272
- It's more like
- intelligence cherry picking.
- 860
- 00:43:57,274 --> 00:43:58,940
- And if they don't find
- any cherries...
- 861
- 00:43:58,942 --> 00:44:00,509
- they just grab a piece
- of shit...
- 862
- 00:44:00,511 --> 00:44:03,879
- and they paint it red, and they
- stick it in a Shirley Temple.
- 863
- 00:44:03,881 --> 00:44:07,250
- You seem irritated.
- 864
- 00:44:07,252 --> 00:44:09,919
- I'm out there looking for
- weapons that might not exist...
- 865
- 00:44:09,921 --> 00:44:12,487
- to justify a war that might
- not be wise.
- 866
- 00:44:12,489 --> 00:44:17,025
- And have you found any evidence
- of WMD?
- 867
- 00:44:17,027 --> 00:44:18,895
- No, sir.
- 868
- 00:44:18,897 --> 00:44:21,029
- But Saddam is looking to acquire
- nukes, right?
- 869
- 00:44:21,031 --> 00:44:23,966
- Yeah, and I'm trying to fuck
- Jennifer Lopez, but I have...
- 870
- 00:44:23,968 --> 00:44:26,234
- a sinking feeling that neither
- of those things is gonna happen.
- 871
- 00:44:26,236 --> 00:44:31,040
- So, we won't use your identity,
- but can we get a quote?
- 872
- 00:44:31,042 --> 00:44:32,808
- Sure.
- 873
- 00:44:32,810 --> 00:44:34,976
- Have you found anything to
- support the administration's...
- 874
- 00:44:34,978 --> 00:44:38,446
- theory that Saddam is close to
- or has acquired nuclear weapons?
- 875
- 00:44:38,448 --> 00:44:40,016
- We've searched every cave...
- 876
- 00:44:40,018 --> 00:44:42,451
- and looked up every camel's ass
- in Iraq.
- 877
- 00:44:42,453 --> 00:44:47,292
- So, here's your quote,
- "no fucking way."
- 878
- 00:44:49,194 --> 00:44:51,027
- Might have to clean
- that up a bit.
- 879
- 00:44:51,029 --> 00:44:54,129
- Quite colorful, though.
- 880
- 00:44:54,131 --> 00:44:55,263
- LANDAY:
- Uh, honey, I think someone...
- 881
- 00:44:55,265 --> 00:44:56,966
- is stealing our New York Times.
- 882
- 00:44:56,968 --> 00:44:58,301
- VLATKA: I canceled it.
- 883
- 00:44:58,303 --> 00:45:00,169
- Why would you do that?
- 884
- 00:45:00,171 --> 00:45:01,437
- It's propaganda.
- 885
- 00:45:01,439 --> 00:45:03,239
- I need that for my work.
- 886
- 00:45:03,241 --> 00:45:05,607
- It's packaging press releases
- from the White House...
- 887
- 00:45:05,609 --> 00:45:07,609
- the State Department, and the
- Pentagon.
- 888
- 00:45:07,611 --> 00:45:09,514
- Sorry, that's not a real
- newspaper.
- 889
- 00:45:16,421 --> 00:45:18,987
- How was your day?
- 890
- 00:45:18,989 --> 00:45:21,257
- Warren and I met with some
- gentleman...
- 891
- 00:45:21,259 --> 00:45:23,592
- from the intelligence community
- who confirmed that...
- 892
- 00:45:23,594 --> 00:45:25,627
- there's no real evidence
- to support...
- 893
- 00:45:25,629 --> 00:45:28,966
- the administration's
- claim on WMD.
- 894
- 00:45:31,435 --> 00:45:34,203
- What have I been telling you?
- 895
- 00:45:34,205 --> 00:45:38,477
- Well, unfortunately, I can't use
- your gut as a reliable source.
- 896
- 00:45:43,448 --> 00:45:46,449
- You know, this is what they do.
- They lie.
- 897
- 00:45:46,451 --> 00:45:49,421
- Yeah, and we try to hold
- them accountable.
- 898
- 00:45:52,656 --> 00:45:55,324
- I hope I'm wrong. I really,
- really do.
- 899
- 00:45:55,326 --> 00:45:58,460
- But the Bush Administration,
- they don't care about the truth.
- 900
- 00:45:58,462 --> 00:46:01,196
- They don't even respond to your
- articles.
- 901
- 00:46:01,198 --> 00:46:04,299
- If they want a war, they're
- gonna get one.
- 902
- 00:46:04,301 --> 00:46:07,002
- And there's nothing that you
- or the first amendment...
- 903
- 00:46:07,004 --> 00:46:08,439
- is gonna do to stop them.
- 904
- 00:46:22,319 --> 00:46:24,222
- Extra, extra, read all about it.
- 905
- 00:46:30,428 --> 00:46:34,297
- "Over the past 14 months, Iraq
- has tried to buy thousands...
- 906
- 00:46:34,299 --> 00:46:37,500
- "of specially design aluminum
- tubes, which American...
- 907
- 00:46:37,502 --> 00:46:39,534
- "officials believe were intended
- as components...
- 908
- 00:46:39,536 --> 00:46:43,471
- "of centrifuges to enrich
- uranium."
- 909
- 00:46:43,473 --> 00:46:45,241
- Well, one thing's for sure.
- 910
- 00:46:45,243 --> 00:46:46,676
- What's that?
- 911
- 00:46:46,678 --> 00:46:49,181
- We can't both be right.
- 912
- 00:46:52,683 --> 00:46:54,016
- Who're you calling?
- 913
- 00:46:54,018 --> 00:46:55,951
- Loose Nukes.
- 914
- 00:46:55,953 --> 00:46:57,520
- If she wouldn't talk to you
- about going into Iraq...
- 915
- 00:46:57,522 --> 00:47:00,121
- what makes you think she's gonna
- go on the record on WMD?
- 916
- 00:47:00,123 --> 00:47:03,127
- Charm Offensive. Watch and
- learn, son.
- 917
- 00:47:07,198 --> 00:47:08,667
- Landay.
- 918
- 00:47:11,368 --> 00:47:14,469
- - It's Joe Galloway.
- - Wow.
- 919
- 00:47:14,471 --> 00:47:16,605
- Man even walks like he has
- a Bronze Star.
- 920
- 00:47:16,607 --> 00:47:17,973
- LOOSE NUKES (OVER PHONE):
- <i>Hello.</i>
- 921
- 00:47:17,975 --> 00:47:20,275
- Oh, hi, yeah, it's Landay.
- 922
- 00:47:20,277 --> 00:47:21,576
- <i>Hello, Jonathan.</i>
- 923
- 00:47:21,578 --> 00:47:27,382
- Hi. Crazy weather we're having,
- huh?
- 924
- 00:47:27,384 --> 00:47:29,417
- <i>You're calling me to chat
- about the weather?</i>
- 925
- 00:47:29,419 --> 00:47:34,056
- No, no, yeah. Actually, I wanted
- to ask you about WMD.
- 926
- 00:47:34,058 --> 00:47:35,623
- It'll be deep, deep background.
- 927
- 00:47:35,625 --> 00:47:37,292
- <i>Goodbye, Jonathan.</i>
- 928
- 00:47:37,294 --> 00:47:40,228
- No wait, don't hang up.
- 929
- 00:47:40,230 --> 00:47:44,199
- That Charm Offensive...
- that's formidable.
- 930
- 00:47:44,201 --> 00:47:48,471
- Listen, we need you here.
- 931
- 00:47:48,473 --> 00:47:51,172
- You've developed sources over
- the years that have access...
- 932
- 00:47:51,174 --> 00:47:54,210
- that Landay and Strobel
- just can't get.
- 933
- 00:47:54,212 --> 00:47:55,611
- I'll make it easy on you.
- 934
- 00:47:55,613 --> 00:47:57,413
- I'll give you a column...
- 935
- 00:47:57,415 --> 00:48:01,449
- and your name doesn't have to
- appear on anything else.
- 936
- 00:48:01,451 --> 00:48:04,286
- Whatever else you want to write
- on the side, you can...
- 937
- 00:48:04,288 --> 00:48:06,554
- and of course, there won't be
- any glory, but...
- 938
- 00:48:06,556 --> 00:48:08,727
- Glory's for young men.
- 939
- 00:48:11,361 --> 00:48:13,462
- Let me percolate on it.
- 940
- 00:48:13,464 --> 00:48:15,531
- <i>Let me turn to the issue
- of Iraq.</i>
- 941
- 00:48:15,533 --> 00:48:18,567
- <i>You have said that it poses...</i>
- 942
- 00:48:18,569 --> 00:48:20,803
- <i>a mortal threat to the
- United States.</i>
- 943
- 00:48:20,805 --> 00:48:24,406
- <i>How? Define "mortal threat."</i>
- 944
- 00:48:24,408 --> 00:48:29,210
- <i>Well, this'll take some time,
- but it's important for us...</i>
- 945
- 00:48:29,212 --> 00:48:31,112
- <i>as I mentioned earlier...</i>
- 946
- 00:48:31,114 --> 00:48:34,049
- <i>to remember that the world
- has changed, that prior to...</i>
- 947
- 00:48:34,051 --> 00:48:35,784
- I'd forgotten the world
- had changed.
- 948
- 00:48:35,786 --> 00:48:37,719
- So did I. I'm so happy he
- mentioned that.
- 949
- 00:48:37,721 --> 00:48:41,357
- <i>What, specifically, has he
- obtained that you believe...</i>
- 950
- 00:48:41,359 --> 00:48:43,792
- <i>would enhance his nuclear
- development program?</i>
- 951
- 00:48:43,794 --> 00:48:45,828
- <i>Well, in the nuclear weapons
- arena...</i>
- 952
- 00:48:45,830 --> 00:48:48,630
- <i>you've got specifically
- aluminum tubes.</i>
- 953
- 00:48:48,632 --> 00:48:50,399
- <i>There's a story in The New York
- Times this morning...</i>
- 954
- 00:48:50,401 --> 00:48:53,502
- <i>this is and I want to attribute
- to The Times.</i>
- 955
- 00:48:53,504 --> 00:48:55,437
- <i>I don't want to talk about,
- obviously...</i>
- 956
- 00:48:55,439 --> 00:48:58,607
- <i>specific intelligence sources,
- but it's now public that...</i>
- 957
- 00:48:58,609 --> 00:49:03,645
- <i>in fact he has been seeking to
- acquire, and we have been...</i>
- 958
- 00:49:03,647 --> 00:49:06,449
- <i>able to intercept and prevent
- him from acquiring...</i>
- 959
- 00:49:06,451 --> 00:49:08,150
- <i>through this particular
- channel...</i>
- 960
- 00:49:08,152 --> 00:49:10,286
- <i>the kinds of tubes that are
- necessary...</i>
- 961
- 00:49:10,288 --> 00:49:12,087
- <i>to build a centrifuge.</i>
- 962
- 00:49:12,089 --> 00:49:15,123
- <i>And the centrifuge is required
- to take low-grade uranium...</i>
- 963
- 00:49:15,125 --> 00:49:18,560
- <i>and enhance it into highly
- enriched uranium...</i>
- 964
- 00:49:18,562 --> 00:49:21,330
- <i>which is what you have to have
- in order to build a bomb.</i>
- 965
- 00:49:21,332 --> 00:49:23,866
- Lucky for him, someone leaked
- that to The Times.
- 966
- 00:49:23,868 --> 00:49:27,169
- Avoids the pesky nuisance
- of being arrested...
- 967
- 00:49:27,171 --> 00:49:28,804
- for revealing classified
- information.
- 968
- 00:49:28,806 --> 00:49:30,839
- One can only wonder how Judy
- Miller and Michael Gordon...
- 969
- 00:49:30,841 --> 00:49:31,873
- got that information.
- 970
- 00:49:31,875 --> 00:49:35,578
- <i>Does it bother you, bug you...</i>
- 971
- 00:49:35,580 --> 00:49:38,714
- <i>that you have not captured
- Osama bin Laden in over a year?</i>
- 972
- 00:49:38,716 --> 00:49:45,453
- <i>I'd like to see him on
- television in handcuffs...</i>
- 973
- 00:49:45,455 --> 00:49:47,489
- <i>if I can put it
- into those terms.</i>
- 974
- 00:49:47,491 --> 00:49:49,458
- <i>I think all of us would.</i>
- 975
- 00:49:49,460 --> 00:49:53,228
- <i>But I don't lay awake at night
- concerned about that.</i>
- 976
- 00:49:53,230 --> 00:49:55,563
- <i>There's one school of thought
- that says he's already dead.</i>
- 977
- 00:49:55,565 --> 00:49:57,165
- <i>We haven't heard anything
- of him in many months.</i>
- 978
- 00:49:57,167 --> 00:49:58,533
- RUSSERT: <i>What do you think?</i>
- 979
- 00:49:58,535 --> 00:49:59,634
- <i>I don't know, I really
- don't know.</i>
- 980
- 00:49:59,636 --> 00:50:01,569
- <i>I can argue it round or flat.</i>
- 981
- 00:50:01,571 --> 00:50:04,172
- I didn't know we were still
- debating the shape of the earth.
- 982
- 00:50:04,174 --> 00:50:06,143
- I've got sources on both sides.
- 983
- 00:50:08,212 --> 00:50:10,645
- <i>But the U.S. military would be
- enormously effective...</i>
- 984
- 00:50:10,647 --> 00:50:12,515
- <i>in this circumstance.</i>
- 985
- 00:50:12,517 --> 00:50:15,451
- <i>And I don't think it would be
- that tough a fight.</i>
- 986
- 00:50:15,453 --> 00:50:17,386
- <i>That is, I don't think there's
- any question...</i>
- 987
- 00:50:17,388 --> 00:50:19,221
- <i>that we would prevail and we
- would achieve our objective.</i>
- 988
- 00:50:19,223 --> 00:50:21,656
- Landay.
- 989
- 00:50:21,658 --> 00:50:24,292
- Yeah?
- 990
- 00:50:24,294 --> 00:50:26,630
- We are right, aren't we?
- 991
- 00:50:28,866 --> 00:50:30,835
- Everybody, listen up.
- 992
- 00:50:34,839 --> 00:50:36,808
- We're not NBC.
- 993
- 00:50:38,276 --> 00:50:40,341
- We're not ABC. We're not CBS.
- 994
- 00:50:40,343 --> 00:50:43,347
- We're not FOX. We're not CNN.
- 995
- 00:50:44,482 --> 00:50:46,582
- We're not The New York Times.
- 996
- 00:50:46,584 --> 00:50:48,553
- We're not The Washington Post.
- 997
- 00:50:50,453 --> 00:50:52,423
- We are Knight Ridder.
- 998
- 00:50:56,527 --> 00:51:02,598
- We have readers who live in
- towns with military bases.
- 999
- 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,335
- Fort Benning, Fort Bragg,
- Fort Jackson...
- 1000
- 00:51:06,337 --> 00:51:12,674
- and over 40 other military bases
- throughout this country.
- 1001
- 00:51:12,676 --> 00:51:17,446
- If every other news organization
- wants to be stenographers...
- 1002
- 00:51:17,448 --> 00:51:20,518
- for the Bush administration,
- let them.
- 1003
- 00:51:22,786 --> 00:51:26,658
- We don't write for people who
- send other people's kids to war.
- 1004
- 00:51:28,725 --> 00:51:33,198
- We write for people
- whose kids get sent to war.
- 1005
- 00:51:35,866 --> 00:51:38,333
- So, when the government
- says something...
- 1006
- 00:51:38,335 --> 00:51:40,839
- you only have one question
- to ask.
- 1007
- 00:51:44,341 --> 00:51:46,277
- Is it true?
- 1008
- 00:51:52,450 --> 00:51:54,386
- I'm through percolating.
- 1009
- 00:51:57,488 --> 00:51:59,420
- Let's get to work.
- 1010
- 00:51:59,422 --> 00:52:01,690
- Administration officials spanned
- out on the Sunday talk shows...
- 1011
- 00:52:01,692 --> 00:52:03,926
- to make the case for an invasion
- of Iraq.
- 1012
- 00:52:03,928 --> 00:52:06,895
- Who else is involved in
- The Office of Special Planning?
- 1013
- 00:52:06,897 --> 00:52:10,598
- Wolfowitz, Feith, couple others.
- 1014
- 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,967
- Instead of listening to people
- who have spent their careers...
- 1015
- 00:52:12,969 --> 00:52:16,804
- evaluating threats, they're
- streaming questionable intel...
- 1016
- 00:52:16,806 --> 00:52:18,707
- from unreliable sources and
- taking it...
- 1017
- 00:52:18,709 --> 00:52:20,509
- directly to the White House.
- 1018
- 00:52:20,511 --> 00:52:22,745
- <i>George Tenet, Director
- of Central Intelligence...</i>
- 1019
- 00:52:22,747 --> 00:52:25,346
- <i>told Senators, he could not
- rule out cooperation...</i>
- 1020
- 00:52:25,348 --> 00:52:26,617
- <i>between Osama bin Laden
- and Al Qaeda.</i>
- 1021
- 00:52:29,386 --> 00:52:31,587
- I've seen the specs on those
- aluminum tubes.
- 1022
- 00:52:31,589 --> 00:52:33,621
- They're too small to be used
- for enriching uranium.
- 1023
- 00:52:33,623 --> 00:52:35,024
- What does that mean?
- 1024
- 00:52:35,026 --> 00:52:36,792
- They can't be used
- for a nuclear bomb.
- 1025
- 00:52:36,794 --> 00:52:38,594
- REPORTER: <i>The President
- of the United States...</i>
- 1026
- 00:52:38,596 --> 00:52:39,928
- <i>said we're not going to permit
- nations to develop...</i>
- 1027
- 00:52:39,930 --> 00:52:41,897
- <i>weapons of mass destruction...</i>
- 1028
- 00:52:41,899 --> 00:52:43,699
- <i>as they're gonna supply those
- weapons to a network...</i>
- 1029
- 00:52:43,701 --> 00:52:45,366
- <i>of terrorism that could attack
- the United States.</i>
- 1030
- 00:52:45,368 --> 00:52:47,870
- Cheney is trying to shut
- out Powell.
- 1031
- 00:52:47,872 --> 00:52:49,471
- Where'd you get this stuff?
- 1032
- 00:52:49,473 --> 00:52:51,339
- Old friend.
- 1033
- 00:52:51,341 --> 00:52:53,375
- REPORTER: <i>We're starting to
- see a consensus from within...</i>
- 1034
- 00:52:53,377 --> 00:52:55,377
- <i>the administration for the
- removal of Saddam Hussein.</i>
- 1035
- 00:52:55,379 --> 00:52:57,379
- COMMENTATOR: <i>The
- administration has pointed...</i>
- 1036
- 00:52:57,381 --> 00:52:59,681
- <i>to a secret meeting in Prague
- between Iraqi intelligence...</i>
- 1037
- 00:52:59,683 --> 00:53:01,449
- <i>and 9/11 hijacker,
- Mohamed Atta.</i>
- 1038
- 00:53:01,451 --> 00:53:03,419
- <i>Bush administration is pressing
- the United Nations...</i>
- 1039
- 00:53:03,421 --> 00:53:05,554
- <i>Security Council for
- a resolution...</i>
- 1040
- 00:53:05,556 --> 00:53:07,455
- <i>to put pressure on Iraq.</i>
- 1041
- 00:53:07,457 --> 00:53:09,424
- <i>President Bush will address
- the United Nations today...</i>
- 1042
- 00:53:09,426 --> 00:53:11,759
- <i>in hopes of putting together
- a multi-national coalition...</i>
- 1043
- 00:53:11,761 --> 00:53:13,594
- <i>to disarm Saddam Hussein.</i>
- 1044
- 00:53:13,596 --> 00:53:15,698
- <i>The White House is lobbying
- Congress to authorize...</i>
- 1045
- 00:53:15,700 --> 00:53:17,799
- <i>the use of force in Iraq.</i>
- 1046
- 00:53:17,801 --> 00:53:19,868
- The minute these guys get
- their hands on anything...
- 1047
- 00:53:19,870 --> 00:53:21,536
- remotely resembling evidence...
- 1048
- 00:53:21,538 --> 00:53:23,471
- they leak it to
- The New York Times.
- 1049
- 00:53:23,473 --> 00:53:24,873
- Now, I understand the position
- you're in...
- 1050
- 00:53:24,875 --> 00:53:27,509
- but please don't hang up on me.
- 1051
- 00:53:27,511 --> 00:53:28,976
- LOOSE NUKES: <i>Okay.</i>
- 1052
- 00:53:28,978 --> 00:53:32,547
- Okay, the vice president
- of the United States...
- 1053
- 00:53:32,549 --> 00:53:35,984
- went to the V.F.W. and said that
- Saddam Hussein...
- 1054
- 00:53:35,986 --> 00:53:38,953
- is on the threshold of
- developing a nuclear weapon.
- 1055
- 00:53:38,955 --> 00:53:41,556
- Then he goes on national
- television...
- 1056
- 00:53:41,558 --> 00:53:42,790
- and says the same thing.
- 1057
- 00:53:42,792 --> 00:53:46,060
- <i>Your question?</i>
- 1058
- 00:53:46,062 --> 00:53:49,498
- Ask the question.
- 1059
- 00:53:49,500 --> 00:53:52,533
- What I want to know is,
- is Dick Cheney ignoring...
- 1060
- 00:53:52,535 --> 00:53:55,103
- good intelligence that
- contradicts his assumptions...
- 1061
- 00:53:55,105 --> 00:53:59,074
- or is he just getting bad
- intelligence?
- 1062
- 00:53:59,076 --> 00:54:02,681
- <i>The vice president is lying.</i>
- 1063
- 00:54:04,881 --> 00:54:06,781
- Thank you, thank you so much.
- 1064
- 00:54:06,783 --> 00:54:09,051
- What? What, what, what?
- What'd she say?
- 1065
- 00:54:09,053 --> 00:54:10,786
- He's lying.
- 1066
- 00:54:10,788 --> 00:54:12,788
- - He's lying.
- - Cheney is lying.
- 1067
- 00:54:12,790 --> 00:54:14,989
- - Cheney's lying!
- - Cheney's lying!
- 1068
- 00:54:14,991 --> 00:54:17,525
- - He's lying! John!
- - He's lying!
- 1069
- 00:54:17,527 --> 00:54:19,627
- John!
- 1070
- 00:54:19,629 --> 00:54:20,862
- Where the hell is he?
- 1071
- 00:54:20,864 --> 00:54:22,531
- Here we go. Here we go.
- 1072
- 00:54:22,533 --> 00:54:24,466
- - He's lying.
- - He's lying.
- 1073
- 00:54:24,468 --> 00:54:26,435
- Cheney's lying.
- 1074
- 00:54:26,437 --> 00:54:27,870
- Where did this come from?
- 1075
- 00:54:27,872 --> 00:54:29,538
- Loose Nukes.
- 1076
- 00:54:29,540 --> 00:54:31,440
- Okay.
- 1077
- 00:54:31,442 --> 00:54:33,808
- Now, we know what's being talk
- about, we got to get inside...
- 1078
- 00:54:33,810 --> 00:54:36,812
- those meetings and find out if
- there's a dissenting opinion.
- 1079
- 00:54:36,814 --> 00:54:38,614
- I may have a guy.
- 1080
- 00:54:38,616 --> 00:54:40,047
- Anybody we know?
- 1081
- 00:54:40,049 --> 00:54:41,652
- The Usual Suspect.
- 1082
- 00:54:52,897 --> 00:54:54,862
- You didn't want to do
- this in a parking garage?
- 1083
- 00:54:54,864 --> 00:54:57,498
- If there was one that served
- Pad Thai, I would.
- 1084
- 00:54:57,500 --> 00:54:59,902
- How's civilian life?
- 1085
- 00:54:59,904 --> 00:55:02,504
- My retirement lasted about
- four hours.
- 1086
- 00:55:02,506 --> 00:55:04,205
- You're with Knight Ridder?
- 1087
- 00:55:04,207 --> 00:55:06,574
- I don't even have a desk yet.
- How the hell do you know that?
- 1088
- 00:55:06,576 --> 00:55:08,076
- I have my ways.
- 1089
- 00:55:08,078 --> 00:55:09,944
- You been following what we're
- doing over there?
- 1090
- 00:55:09,946 --> 00:55:11,179
- Yes, I have.
- 1091
- 00:55:11,181 --> 00:55:12,681
- And?
- 1092
- 00:55:12,683 --> 00:55:14,449
- You two may be singlehandedly
- saving...
- 1093
- 00:55:14,451 --> 00:55:17,553
- the Fourth Estate from
- extinction.
- 1094
- 00:55:17,555 --> 00:55:20,221
- Mainstream media hasn't picked
- up a thing we been running.
- 1095
- 00:55:20,223 --> 00:55:21,857
- Should be all the confirmation
- you need...
- 1096
- 00:55:21,859 --> 00:55:23,094
- that you're onto something.
- 1097
- 00:55:26,062 --> 00:55:28,696
- What can I do for you?
- 1098
- 00:55:28,698 --> 00:55:30,732
- We need some help with the
- higher ups.
- 1099
- 00:55:30,734 --> 00:55:31,732
- How high?
- 1100
- 00:55:31,734 --> 00:55:33,469
- High as you can get us.
- 1101
- 00:55:33,471 --> 00:55:35,170
- You've been around a long time,
- Joe.
- 1102
- 00:55:35,172 --> 00:55:37,672
- I doubt there's anything there
- that'll surprise you.
- 1103
- 00:55:37,674 --> 00:55:39,475
- I was married one time
- to a woman who thought...
- 1104
- 00:55:39,477 --> 00:55:41,643
- New Hampshire was the capital
- of Massachusetts.
- 1105
- 00:55:41,645 --> 00:55:44,612
- There's always something you
- don't see coming.
- 1106
- 00:55:44,614 --> 00:55:47,949
- What do you want to know?
- 1107
- 00:55:47,951 --> 00:55:51,053
- Everything the administration
- doesn't want us to know.
- 1108
- 00:55:51,055 --> 00:55:54,459
- You and I are going to be eating
- a lot of Pad Thai.
- 1109
- 00:55:59,497 --> 00:56:01,496
- What kind of time frame
- are we looking at?
- 1110
- 00:56:01,498 --> 00:56:02,897
- Next month, Congress
- is scheduled to vote...
- 1111
- 00:56:02,899 --> 00:56:04,165
- on whether or not to give
- the president...
- 1112
- 00:56:04,167 --> 00:56:05,868
- the authorization to go to war.
- 1113
- 00:56:05,870 --> 00:56:06,935
- Are the votes there?
- 1114
- 00:56:06,937 --> 00:56:08,603
- The administration thinks so.
- 1115
- 00:56:08,605 --> 00:56:14,009
- Mr. President, 38 years ago,
- I, Robert C. Byrd...
- 1116
- 00:56:14,011 --> 00:56:17,612
- voted on the Tonkin Gulf
- Resolution.
- 1117
- 00:56:17,614 --> 00:56:21,149
- The resolution that authorized
- the president to use military...
- 1118
- 00:56:21,151 --> 00:56:23,150
- force to repel armed attacks...
- 1119
- 00:56:23,152 --> 00:56:27,589
- and to prevent further communist
- aggression in Southeast Asia.
- 1120
- 00:56:27,591 --> 00:56:31,225
- A joint resolution to authorize
- the use of United States...
- 1121
- 00:56:31,227 --> 00:56:34,730
- armed forces against Iraq should
- be brought to a close.
- 1122
- 00:56:34,732 --> 00:56:36,931
- The clerk will call the roll.
- 1123
- 00:56:36,933 --> 00:56:39,134
- CLERK: <i>Mr. Biden, aye.</i>
- 1124
- 00:56:39,136 --> 00:56:41,169
- <i>Mrs. Clinton, aye.</i>
- 1125
- 00:56:41,171 --> 00:56:43,638
- It was this resolution that
- provided the basis...
- 1126
- 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:47,542
- for American involvement
- in the war in Vietnam.
- 1127
- 00:56:47,544 --> 00:56:49,877
- <i>Mr. Kerry, aye.</i>
- 1128
- 00:56:49,879 --> 00:56:52,047
- <i>Mr. Lieberman, aye.</i>
- 1129
- 00:56:52,049 --> 00:56:54,016
- <i>Mr. Lott, aye.</i>
- 1130
- 00:56:54,018 --> 00:56:55,951
- It was this resolution...
- 1131
- 00:56:55,953 --> 00:57:00,989
- that lead to the deaths
- of 58,000 Americans.
- 1132
- 00:57:00,991 --> 00:57:03,324
- <i>Mr. McCain, aye.</i>
- 1133
- 00:57:03,326 --> 00:57:05,560
- <i>Mr. McConnell, aye.</i>
- 1134
- 00:57:05,562 --> 00:57:10,699
- After all that carnage, we began
- to learn that in voting...
- 1135
- 00:57:10,701 --> 00:57:12,768
- for the Tonkin Gulf
- resolution...
- 1136
- 00:57:12,770 --> 00:57:15,904
- we were basing our votes
- on bad information.
- 1137
- 00:57:15,906 --> 00:57:18,172
- And history is repeating itself.
- 1138
- 00:57:18,174 --> 00:57:20,308
- <i>Mr. Santorum, aye.</i>
- 1139
- 00:57:20,310 --> 00:57:23,679
- I urge senators to go down
- on the Capital Mall...
- 1140
- 00:57:23,681 --> 00:57:26,181
- and look at the Vietnam
- Memorial.
- 1141
- 00:57:26,183 --> 00:57:29,250
- Nearly every day, you will find
- someone at that wall...
- 1142
- 00:57:29,252 --> 00:57:31,587
- weeping for a loved one.
- 1143
- 00:57:31,589 --> 00:57:33,654
- <i>Mr. Sessions, aye.</i>
- 1144
- 00:57:33,656 --> 00:57:36,158
- I will always remember the words
- of Senator Wayne Morse.
- 1145
- 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,627
- <i>Mr. Specter, aye.</i>
- 1146
- 00:57:38,629 --> 00:57:40,895
- He stated, "The resolution will
- pass and senators...
- 1147
- 00:57:40,897 --> 00:57:44,632
- "who vote for it will live
- to regret it."
- 1148
- 00:57:44,634 --> 00:57:46,667
- We got K-10, we got Dixie,
- we don't need another source.
- 1149
- 00:57:46,669 --> 00:57:48,270
- You know we got this.
- 1150
- 00:57:48,272 --> 00:57:50,237
- Look, when you're accusing the
- secretary of defense...
- 1151
- 00:57:50,239 --> 00:57:52,107
- of running a shadow
- intelligence unit...
- 1152
- 00:57:52,109 --> 00:57:54,676
- out of the Pentagon, it's nice
- to have a little insurance.
- 1153
- 00:57:54,678 --> 00:57:55,913
- That's all I'm saying.
- 1154
- 00:57:59,984 --> 00:58:02,350
- All right, let's share it
- with the rest of the class.
- 1155
- 00:58:02,352 --> 00:58:04,085
- You want to tell them?
- 1156
- 00:58:04,087 --> 00:58:07,723
- Earlier today, I was summoned
- to the Pentagon.
- 1157
- 00:58:07,725 --> 00:58:09,056
- By whom?
- 1158
- 00:58:09,058 --> 00:58:12,127
- Rumsfeld, Ol' Limp Dick
- sent a message saying...
- 1159
- 00:58:12,129 --> 00:58:13,929
- "All your sources are retired
- generals."
- 1160
- 00:58:13,931 --> 00:58:15,864
- And I said, "All due respect,
- sir...
- 1161
- 00:58:15,866 --> 00:58:18,799
- "80% of my sources are
- active military."
- 1162
- 00:58:18,801 --> 00:58:20,636
- "Some of them are working
- in this building...
- 1163
- 00:58:20,638 --> 00:58:22,837
- "and some of them are actually
- working on your staff."
- 1164
- 00:58:22,839 --> 00:58:25,806
- "And hell, one or two of them
- might even be in this room."
- 1165
- 00:58:25,808 --> 00:58:27,942
- Did you actually have sources
- in the room?
- 1166
- 00:58:27,944 --> 00:58:31,082
- No, but it was fun watching him
- sweat like whores in church.
- 1167
- 00:58:33,817 --> 00:58:35,783
- How close are we to getting
- something we can run with
- 1168
- 00:58:35,785 --> 00:58:37,185
- on the Office of Special Plans?
- 1169
- 00:58:37,187 --> 00:58:39,020
- Well, we already got...
- 1170
- 00:58:39,022 --> 00:58:41,656
- No, we're just gonna check
- with a couple more sources.
- 1171
- 00:58:41,658 --> 00:58:43,658
- What's wrong with the sources
- you have?
- 1172
- 00:58:43,660 --> 00:58:46,094
- Well, we just want to be
- certain.
- 1173
- 00:58:46,096 --> 00:58:49,096
- You know, you sit on a story
- like this, the dam bursts.
- 1174
- 00:58:49,098 --> 00:58:51,001
- Let's just move on this,
- okay, boys?
- 1175
- 00:58:54,904 --> 00:58:56,237
- When are you gonna be finished?
- 1176
- 00:58:56,239 --> 00:59:00,243
- Just a few more minutes, baby.
- 1177
- 00:59:02,846 --> 00:59:06,781
- I can't sleep with the computer
- light on.
- 1178
- 00:59:06,783 --> 00:59:09,219
- Actually, I'm done.
- 1179
- 00:59:13,690 --> 00:59:17,025
- So, what are you working on?
- 1180
- 00:59:17,027 --> 00:59:19,828
- Rumsfeld has a secret Intel
- group that's going...
- 1181
- 00:59:19,830 --> 00:59:24,835
- around the CIA to manufacture
- a case for war.
- 1182
- 00:59:29,239 --> 00:59:31,440
- What the fuck, Jonathan?
- 1183
- 00:59:31,442 --> 00:59:33,107
- What?
- 1184
- 00:59:33,109 --> 00:59:35,078
- Have you been talking about this
- on the phone?
- 1185
- 00:59:37,281 --> 00:59:38,779
- Yeah, of course.
- 1186
- 00:59:38,781 --> 00:59:40,651
- So, what?
- 1187
- 00:59:43,187 --> 00:59:47,188
- - They will hear you.
- - Vlatka.
- 1188
- 00:59:47,190 --> 00:59:49,824
- You're writing about infighting
- between spy agencies.
- 1189
- 00:59:49,826 --> 00:59:50,926
- So?
- 1190
- 00:59:50,928 --> 00:59:53,328
- They're spy agencies, Jonathan.
- 1191
- 00:59:53,330 --> 00:59:55,964
- They listen to your calls,
- they read your emails.
- 1192
- 00:59:55,966 --> 00:59:57,966
- They probably bugged this house.
- 1193
- 00:59:57,968 --> 00:59:59,967
- You're being paranoid.
- 1194
- 00:59:59,969 --> 01:00:01,335
- You're being naive.
- 1195
- 01:00:01,337 --> 01:00:04,739
- This isn't Yugoslavia,
- this is America.
- 1196
- 01:00:04,741 --> 01:00:07,007
- America has changed.
- 1197
- 01:00:07,009 --> 01:00:08,375
- War is big business for them.
- 1198
- 01:00:08,377 --> 01:00:11,045
- You get in their way,
- they're gonna kill you.
- 1199
- 01:00:11,047 --> 01:00:15,817
- Honey, you are being ridiculous.
- All right? Come on.
- 1200
- 01:00:15,819 --> 01:00:19,054
- Don't you get it?
- 1201
- 01:00:19,056 --> 01:00:21,890
- You know what these people
- are capable of?
- 1202
- 01:00:21,892 --> 01:00:24,493
- You have a family!
- 1203
- 01:00:24,495 --> 01:00:28,098
- Vlatka. Vlatka!
- 1204
- 01:00:32,902 --> 01:00:37,239
- Oh, somebody's struggling.
- What's the matter?
- 1205
- 01:00:37,241 --> 01:00:40,542
- Oh, Vlatka kept me up all night.
- 1206
- 01:00:40,544 --> 01:00:42,176
- All right!
- 1207
- 01:00:42,178 --> 01:00:46,047
- No, not that like that. It was
- conspiracy theories.
- 1208
- 01:00:46,049 --> 01:00:47,415
- About what?
- 1209
- 01:00:47,417 --> 01:00:50,951
- Oh... she thinks the government
- is monitoring us.
- 1210
- 01:00:50,953 --> 01:00:54,124
- I mean, it's ridiculous.
- 1211
- 01:00:56,225 --> 01:00:57,761
- Check your email.
- 1212
- 01:01:09,906 --> 01:01:11,839
- John, you got to see this.
- 1213
- 01:01:11,841 --> 01:01:14,042
- Oh, hold on a second.
- 1214
- 01:01:14,044 --> 01:01:17,248
- Arthur, I really don't want to
- have this conversation again.
- 1215
- 01:01:19,382 --> 01:01:22,819
- He hung up. What is it?
- 1216
- 01:01:30,060 --> 01:01:31,362
- What do we do?
- 1217
- 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,047
- - You're such a wuss.
- - You're a wuss.
- 1218
- 01:01:52,049 --> 01:01:54,015
- You're a much bigger wuss.
- 1219
- 01:01:54,017 --> 01:01:55,516
- Shut up, will you stop it,
- you're being a child.
- 1220
- 01:01:55,518 --> 01:01:57,484
- - You're being a...
- - Shut up!
- 1221
- 01:01:57,486 --> 01:02:00,554
- REPORTER: <i>Today's UN Security
- Council resolution...</i>
- 1222
- 01:02:00,556 --> 01:02:04,558
- <i>can be boiled down to four
- words, the clock is ticking.</i>
- 1223
- 01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:08,596
- <i>Iraq's only alternative to full
- compliance, President Bush...</i>
- 1224
- 01:02:08,598 --> 01:02:11,632
- <i>made clear today, is
- of military confrontation.</i>
- 1225
- 01:02:11,634 --> 01:02:14,902
- BUSH: <i>The full disarmament of
- weapons of mass destruction...</i>
- 1226
- 01:02:14,904 --> 01:02:16,471
- <i>by Iraq will occur.</i>
- 1227
- 01:02:16,473 --> 01:02:22,246
- <i>The only question for the Iraqi
- regime is to decide how.</i>
- 1228
- 01:02:34,091 --> 01:02:35,422
- Son of a bitch.
- 1229
- 01:02:35,424 --> 01:02:37,125
- They beat us.
- 1230
- 01:02:37,127 --> 01:02:39,326
- But they missed the whole point
- of why the unit was set up.
- 1231
- 01:02:39,328 --> 01:02:40,629
- It doesn't matter, they got
- the scoop.
- 1232
- 01:02:40,631 --> 01:02:42,330
- With what?
- 1233
- 01:02:42,332 --> 01:02:44,199
- There's nothing about
- cherry picking intelligence.
- 1234
- 01:02:44,201 --> 01:02:46,433
- There's nothing about bypassing
- other agencies.
- 1235
- 01:02:46,435 --> 01:02:48,036
- We can still run ours.
- 1236
- 01:02:48,038 --> 01:02:49,337
- John, no one's gonna pay
- attention...
- 1237
- 01:02:49,339 --> 01:02:52,140
- to a second story explaining
- all that.
- 1238
- 01:02:52,142 --> 01:02:53,908
- We had it.
- 1239
- 01:02:53,910 --> 01:02:55,911
- Goddamn it, Walcott's gonna be
- pissed.
- 1240
- 01:02:55,913 --> 01:02:58,115
- Maybe he hadn't seen it yet.
- 1241
- 01:03:11,661 --> 01:03:14,462
- How is it possible he hasn't
- talked to us all day?
- 1242
- 01:03:14,464 --> 01:03:17,134
- He's giving us the silent
- treatment.
- 1243
- 01:03:20,136 --> 01:03:22,136
- Oh, shit, here he comes.
- 1244
- 01:03:22,138 --> 01:03:24,307
- Oh, Jesus.
- 1245
- 01:03:29,546 --> 01:03:31,549
- You had the story.
- 1246
- 01:03:33,317 --> 01:03:35,319
- Don't ever forget how
- it feels to get beat.
- 1247
- 01:03:39,723 --> 01:03:42,156
- The only information Congress
- is getting...
- 1248
- 01:03:42,158 --> 01:03:44,359
- is coming directly from the
- administration.
- 1249
- 01:03:44,361 --> 01:03:47,194
- <i>Iraq is a huge country about
- the size of France...</i>
- 1250
- 01:03:47,196 --> 01:03:49,230
- <i>if they want to hide their
- weapons of mass destruction...</i>
- 1251
- 01:03:49,232 --> 01:03:50,998
- <i>they're going to be able
- to do so.</i>
- 1252
- 01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,368
- They're not going to rethink
- their positions...
- 1253
- 01:03:53,370 --> 01:03:56,004
- unless they are provided
- with independent intel.
- 1254
- 01:03:56,006 --> 01:03:58,640
- <i>No one who's supported the
- authorization for war...</i>
- 1255
- 01:03:58,642 --> 01:04:02,377
- <i>in Congress, in Iraq, not the
- president...</i>
- 1256
- 01:04:02,379 --> 01:04:06,348
- <i>I am sure would go to war just
- because he wants to go to war.</i>
- 1257
- 01:04:06,350 --> 01:04:09,984
- Rumsfeld's been trying to sell
- this idea that an Iraqi...
- 1258
- 01:04:09,986 --> 01:04:13,754
- intelligence officer offered
- bin Laden safe haven in '99.
- 1259
- 01:04:13,756 --> 01:04:15,290
- Yeah.
- 1260
- 01:04:15,292 --> 01:04:17,525
- Well, if that offer actually
- had happened...
- 1261
- 01:04:17,527 --> 01:04:20,661
- bin Laden would have told Saddam
- to go fuck himself.
- 1262
- 01:04:20,663 --> 01:04:22,663
- What do you make of the
- statement made...
- 1263
- 01:04:22,665 --> 01:04:25,266
- by the Iraqi government that
- Iraq has no weapons...
- 1264
- 01:04:25,268 --> 01:04:27,634
- of mass destruction
- and is not developing?
- 1265
- 01:04:27,636 --> 01:04:29,406
- They're lying.
- 1266
- 01:04:31,241 --> 01:04:32,607
- Next.
- 1267
- 01:04:32,609 --> 01:04:34,208
- Your daughter is lovely.
- 1268
- 01:04:34,210 --> 01:04:35,777
- Well, I wish I could take
- credit.
- 1269
- 01:04:35,779 --> 01:04:37,478
- She gets it from her mother.
- 1270
- 01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:38,679
- Dad, can I get you
- anything?
- 1271
- 01:04:38,681 --> 01:04:40,515
- - Oh, no, thanks, sweetie.
- - Mr. Strobel?
- 1272
- 01:04:40,517 --> 01:04:42,319
- - I'm fine.
- - All right.
- 1273
- 01:04:45,489 --> 01:04:47,221
- Just real casual.
- 1274
- 01:04:47,223 --> 01:04:48,790
- Tom and I were just talking
- about your latest article.
- 1275
- 01:04:48,792 --> 01:04:50,324
- Oh, yeah?
- 1276
- 01:04:50,326 --> 01:04:52,092
- Seems like you don't trust
- politicians.
- 1277
- 01:04:52,094 --> 01:04:55,129
- Well, that's a pretty solid
- rule of journalism.
- 1278
- 01:04:55,131 --> 01:04:57,232
- Even when they're talking
- about war?
- 1279
- 01:04:57,234 --> 01:04:59,466
- Especially when they're talking
- about war.
- 1280
- 01:04:59,468 --> 01:05:01,569
- You really believe there's
- no WMD?
- 1281
- 01:05:01,571 --> 01:05:03,638
- Our names are on the article.
- 1282
- 01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:05,640
- They don't say that
- there's no WMD.
- 1283
- 01:05:05,642 --> 01:05:07,141
- They just said that the
- administration...
- 1284
- 01:05:07,143 --> 01:05:08,576
- hasn't offered any proof of WMD.
- 1285
- 01:05:08,578 --> 01:05:10,645
- And you don't think
- they'll find any?
- 1286
- 01:05:10,647 --> 01:05:13,614
- No, I don't.
- 1287
- 01:05:13,616 --> 01:05:14,815
- You don't know that.
- 1288
- 01:05:14,817 --> 01:05:16,551
- No, we don't.
- 1289
- 01:05:16,553 --> 01:05:18,752
- But before we send our kids
- to their possible deaths...
- 1290
- 01:05:18,754 --> 01:05:20,487
- don't you think the
- administration...
- 1291
- 01:05:20,489 --> 01:05:22,390
- has an obligation to provide
- proof of their rationale?
- 1292
- 01:05:22,392 --> 01:05:25,560
- What if that proof comes in the
- form of a mushroom cloud?
- 1293
- 01:05:25,562 --> 01:05:28,730
- Okay, you've been watching
- Fox News again?
- 1294
- 01:05:28,732 --> 01:05:31,332
- Rice, Cheney, and President Bush
- have all said the same thing.
- 1295
- 01:05:31,334 --> 01:05:33,301
- Oh, well, then it must be true.
- 1296
- 01:05:33,303 --> 01:05:35,270
- You kids are too young
- to remember...
- 1297
- 01:05:35,272 --> 01:05:37,672
- how close we came to nuclear war
- in '62.
- 1298
- 01:05:37,674 --> 01:05:39,540
- Hell, Warren, you were born
- the very day...
- 1299
- 01:05:39,542 --> 01:05:42,777
- President Kennedy ordered the
- blockade against Cuba.
- 1300
- 01:05:42,779 --> 01:05:45,612
- The most powerful enemy we knew
- was gonna put nuclear weapons...
- 1301
- 01:05:45,614 --> 01:05:47,714
- 90 miles off our coast.
- 1302
- 01:05:47,716 --> 01:05:49,551
- The president had to demonstrate
- strength.
- 1303
- 01:05:49,553 --> 01:05:53,455
- And the next day, Kennedy sent
- Adlai Stevenson to the U.N...
- 1304
- 01:05:53,457 --> 01:05:55,558
- to offer proof that the missiles
- existed.
- 1305
- 01:05:56,759 --> 01:05:58,592
- It's not just Fox News.
- 1306
- 01:05:58,594 --> 01:06:01,862
- It's the Washington Post.
- It's The New York Times.
- 1307
- 01:06:01,864 --> 01:06:04,799
- Hell, proof is coming from every
- major media outlet...
- 1308
- 01:06:04,801 --> 01:06:07,705
- in the country, except yours.
- 1309
- 01:06:09,272 --> 01:06:10,804
- Okay.
- 1310
- 01:06:10,806 --> 01:06:16,413
- Uh, I think I forgot the
- hamburger buns, excuse me.
- 1311
- 01:06:18,114 --> 01:06:20,750
- I'm going to grab a beer.
- 1312
- 01:06:23,352 --> 01:06:25,121
- Jesus, Dad.
- 1313
- 01:06:36,299 --> 01:06:37,464
- Are you okay, bro?
- 1314
- 01:06:37,466 --> 01:06:39,069
- Yeah.
- 1315
- 01:06:40,870 --> 01:06:44,172
- Are we good reporters?
- 1316
- 01:06:44,174 --> 01:06:45,272
- What?
- 1317
- 01:06:45,274 --> 01:06:48,208
- I mean, are we doing anything...
- 1318
- 01:06:48,210 --> 01:06:49,877
- other than practicing good
- journalism?
- 1319
- 01:06:49,879 --> 01:06:51,913
- No, we're doing exactly what
- we're supposed...
- 1320
- 01:06:51,915 --> 01:06:54,449
- Then, why the fuck are we
- the only ones...
- 1321
- 01:06:54,451 --> 01:06:56,620
- running these fucking stories?!
- 1322
- 01:07:04,527 --> 01:07:06,828
- He just wanted you to see
- all sides to him...
- 1323
- 01:07:06,830 --> 01:07:08,466
- before you take it to the
- next level.
- 1324
- 01:07:13,770 --> 01:07:15,569
- <i>Almost three months ago,
- the United Nations...</i>
- 1325
- 01:07:15,571 --> 01:07:17,739
- <i>Security Council gave
- Saddam Hussein...</i>
- 1326
- 01:07:17,741 --> 01:07:20,942
- <i>his final chance to disarm.</i>
- 1327
- 01:07:20,944 --> 01:07:22,777
- <i>Our intelligence officials
- estimate...</i>
- 1328
- 01:07:22,779 --> 01:07:24,645
- <i>that Saddam Hussein had the
- materials to produce...</i>
- 1329
- 01:07:24,647 --> 01:07:27,549
- What's the point of having
- U.N. weapons inspections...
- 1330
- 01:07:27,551 --> 01:07:30,185
- if Bush and Cheney are just
- going to ignore the results?
- 1331
- 01:07:30,187 --> 01:07:33,254
- Well, when you're creating
- your own reality...
- 1332
- 01:07:33,256 --> 01:07:35,255
- it's pretty easy to ignore
- the facts.
- 1333
- 01:07:35,257 --> 01:07:37,357
- And so what? Due diligence is
- too inconvenient...
- 1334
- 01:07:37,359 --> 01:07:39,861
- for the mainstream media
- at this point?
- 1335
- 01:07:39,863 --> 01:07:41,763
- When news is a profit center...
- 1336
- 01:07:41,765 --> 01:07:43,531
- Access becomes currency.
- 1337
- 01:07:43,533 --> 01:07:44,668
- Exactly.
- 1338
- 01:07:46,402 --> 01:07:47,634
- I'm proud of you, John.
- 1339
- 01:07:47,636 --> 01:07:48,703
- Why?
- 1340
- 01:07:48,705 --> 01:07:52,473
- For not wavering.
- 1341
- 01:07:52,475 --> 01:07:53,841
- It's got to be tough.
- 1342
- 01:07:53,843 --> 01:07:55,542
- It's not that tough.
- 1343
- 01:07:55,544 --> 01:07:59,746
- I know who their sources are and
- I know who our sources are.
- 1344
- 01:07:59,748 --> 01:08:03,384
- "Iraqi Dissidents Reassured
- in a Talk with Bush...
- 1345
- 01:08:03,386 --> 01:08:06,587
- "About the Post-Hussein Era."
- 1346
- 01:08:06,589 --> 01:08:07,922
- By Judith Miller.
- 1347
- 01:08:07,924 --> 01:08:09,656
- She'd quote a carnival
- fortune teller...
- 1348
- 01:08:09,658 --> 01:08:12,426
- if he was willing to say
- Iraq had WMD.
- 1349
- 01:08:12,428 --> 01:08:15,230
- We gotta dig into the
- declassified...
- 1350
- 01:08:15,232 --> 01:08:16,597
- national intelligence
- estimate...
- 1351
- 01:08:16,599 --> 01:08:19,234
- and find out if there are any
- gems in there.
- 1352
- 01:08:19,236 --> 01:08:20,302
- Yeah, I'd love to see...
- 1353
- 01:08:20,304 --> 01:08:22,770
- what they redacted from the
- classified version.
- 1354
- 01:08:22,772 --> 01:08:24,371
- WALCOTT: Oh, what's going
- on with Chalabi?
- 1355
- 01:08:24,373 --> 01:08:25,707
- We're on it.
- 1356
- 01:08:25,709 --> 01:08:26,908
- I'm gonna keep an eye
- on my old boss.
- 1357
- 01:08:26,910 --> 01:08:28,709
- - I got a feeling.
- - Yeah...
- 1358
- 01:08:28,711 --> 01:08:31,714
- Colin may be the last person
- standing between peace and war.
- 1359
- 01:08:33,750 --> 01:08:34,919
- Yeah.
- 1360
- 01:08:42,559 --> 01:08:44,461
- Goddamn it!
- 1361
- 01:08:49,965 --> 01:08:51,367
- Fuck!
- 1362
- 01:08:56,773 --> 01:08:58,472
- ARTHUR: Angela, did the mayor
- set a date...
- 1363
- 01:08:58,474 --> 01:08:59,673
- for the fundraiser yet?
- 1364
- 01:08:59,675 --> 01:09:02,643
- Hey, Arthur, I was totally
- wrong.
- 1365
- 01:09:02,645 --> 01:09:05,545
- Your head isn't literally
- up your ass.
- 1366
- 01:09:05,547 --> 01:09:08,348
- It's always a pleasure to see
- you, John...
- 1367
- 01:09:08,350 --> 01:09:10,884
- but would you please wait
- outside?
- 1368
- 01:09:10,886 --> 01:09:13,387
- You know, it's bad enough you're
- ignoring all our work...
- 1369
- 01:09:13,389 --> 01:09:15,757
- but the fact that you're running
- these bullshit...
- 1370
- 01:09:15,759 --> 01:09:19,326
- Judy Miller pieces is
- unconscionable.
- 1371
- 01:09:19,328 --> 01:09:20,727
- Not in here, John.
- Okay, please?
- 1372
- 01:09:20,729 --> 01:09:24,632
- Let's take it in my office.
- Excuse me.
- 1373
- 01:09:24,634 --> 01:09:26,801
- Jesus.
- 1374
- 01:09:26,803 --> 01:09:28,569
- Look, as painful as this
- might seem...
- 1375
- 01:09:28,571 --> 01:09:30,370
- I don't answer to you, John.
- 1376
- 01:09:30,372 --> 01:09:32,539
- Yes, as evidenced by the fact
- that you still have a job.
- 1377
- 01:09:32,541 --> 01:09:34,642
- You know what, my responsibility
- is to my readers.
- 1378
- 01:09:34,644 --> 01:09:36,311
- They're citizens who are
- patriots...
- 1379
- 01:09:36,313 --> 01:09:37,978
- they're citizens who support
- our troops.
- 1380
- 01:09:37,980 --> 01:09:40,080
- And how do you do that, Arthur?
- 1381
- 01:09:40,082 --> 01:09:42,650
- By going down on
- The New York Times?
- 1382
- 01:09:42,652 --> 01:09:44,552
- I don't have time for this.
- 1383
- 01:09:44,554 --> 01:09:45,986
- No, you don't have time.
- 1384
- 01:09:45,988 --> 01:09:47,554
- You don't have time.
- 1385
- 01:09:47,556 --> 01:09:48,955
- You know, one day,
- The New York Times...
- 1386
- 01:09:48,957 --> 01:09:50,792
- is going to apologize
- to its readers.
- 1387
- 01:09:50,794 --> 01:09:54,529
- And when that day comes, are you
- gonna write your own apology?
- 1388
- 01:09:54,531 --> 01:09:56,931
- Or are you just going to run
- theirs?
- 1389
- 01:09:56,933 --> 01:09:58,868
- Have a nice day, John.
- 1390
- 01:10:01,403 --> 01:10:03,338
- <i>It is beginning to look more
- and more as though...</i>
- 1391
- 01:10:03,340 --> 01:10:05,539
- <i>war with Iraq is inevitable.</i>
- 1392
- 01:10:05,541 --> 01:10:08,543
- <i>The Showdown with Iraq and the
- countdown to a speech...</i>
- 1393
- 01:10:08,545 --> 01:10:10,744
- <i>by Secretary of State
- Colin Powell...</i>
- 1394
- 01:10:10,746 --> 01:10:12,946
- <i>that could move the world
- closer to war.</i>
- 1395
- 01:10:12,948 --> 01:10:15,415
- <i>There's not much left for the
- soldiers to do but wait...</i>
- 1396
- 01:10:15,417 --> 01:10:18,886
- <i>for orders to attack, Ryan
- Chillcoat reports...</i>
- 1397
- 01:10:18,888 --> 01:10:21,888
- That's so frustrating.
- 1398
- 01:10:21,890 --> 01:10:23,794
- I don't know that I could
- do what you do.
- 1399
- 01:10:25,929 --> 01:10:27,462
- You know, I once got it
- in my head...
- 1400
- 01:10:27,464 --> 01:10:29,530
- that I should hike the
- Appalachian Trail.
- 1401
- 01:10:29,532 --> 01:10:31,766
- Thought that it would just be a
- good challenge for myself.
- 1402
- 01:10:31,768 --> 01:10:35,372
- Then I look at it on a map
- and it's like 2200 miles.
- 1403
- 01:10:37,573 --> 01:10:39,374
- I realized...
- 1404
- 01:10:39,376 --> 01:10:40,975
- That it would take a lifetime?
- 1405
- 01:10:40,977 --> 01:10:42,712
- Yeah.
- 1406
- 01:10:46,148 --> 01:10:47,817
- Or we could walk it together.
- 1407
- 01:10:49,885 --> 01:10:53,987
- I'm gonna hold you to that.
- 1408
- 01:10:53,989 --> 01:10:55,856
- REPORTER: <i>Worldwide resistance
- is mounting...</i>
- 1409
- 01:10:55,858 --> 01:10:59,593
- <i>against America's military
- intervention into Iraq.</i>
- 1410
- 01:10:59,595 --> 01:11:02,530
- <i>From US cities to Europe and
- the Middle East...</i>
- 1411
- 01:11:02,532 --> 01:11:05,600
- <i>demonstrators have taken to the
- streets in opposition...</i>
- 1412
- 01:11:05,602 --> 01:11:08,805
- <i>to the United States'
- threat to invade Iraq.</i>
- 1413
- 01:11:16,446 --> 01:11:18,478
- Mr. Strobel, Mr. Landay,
- how do you do?
- 1414
- 01:11:18,480 --> 01:11:19,713
- - Hello.
- - I'm Entifadh Qanbar.
- 1415
- 01:11:19,715 --> 01:11:21,517
- - Hi.
- - Now, please, follow me.
- 1416
- 01:11:22,919 --> 01:11:24,518
- Who's this dude?
- 1417
- 01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:29,123
- Guy who used to deliver pizzas.
- I'm not kidding.
- 1418
- 01:11:29,125 --> 01:11:30,892
- Minister Chalabi,
- Mr. Jonathan Landay...
- 1419
- 01:11:30,894 --> 01:11:34,628
- and Warren Strobel from Knight
- Ridder News.
- 1420
- 01:11:34,630 --> 01:11:36,864
- Gentlemen, welcome.
- 1421
- 01:11:36,866 --> 01:11:40,735
- Hey. Thank you for finally
- agreeing to meet with us.
- 1422
- 01:11:40,737 --> 01:11:43,204
- I've been very busy.
- 1423
- 01:11:43,206 --> 01:11:45,606
- Talking to our competitors.
- 1424
- 01:11:45,608 --> 01:11:47,909
- I speak with whomever wishes
- to speak with me.
- 1425
- 01:11:47,911 --> 01:11:50,210
- After all, I have nothing
- to hide...
- 1426
- 01:11:50,212 --> 01:11:54,182
- which is more than I can say
- for Saddam.
- 1427
- 01:11:54,184 --> 01:11:55,950
- Okay, well, since you brought
- him up...
- 1428
- 01:11:55,952 --> 01:11:57,651
- I thought we might talk
- about what...
- 1429
- 01:11:57,653 --> 01:11:59,719
- you know about his weapons
- and how he might be hiding them.
- 1430
- 01:11:59,721 --> 01:12:05,125
- He has WMD and he's hiding them,
- that I know.
- 1431
- 01:12:05,127 --> 01:12:07,695
- Right, and you know that how?
- 1432
- 01:12:07,697 --> 01:12:10,897
- I know everything that's
- happening in my country.
- 1433
- 01:12:10,899 --> 01:12:14,168
- Even though Iraq hasn't been
- your country for over a decade?
- 1434
- 01:12:14,170 --> 01:12:19,073
- I may be an exile, but I'm still
- an Iraqi.
- 1435
- 01:12:19,075 --> 01:12:21,542
- Well, I think the point my
- colleague is trying to make...
- 1436
- 01:12:21,544 --> 01:12:24,678
- is how would you, an enemy
- of Saddam, in exile...
- 1437
- 01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:27,949
- have access to such valuable
- information?
- 1438
- 01:12:27,951 --> 01:12:29,984
- I maintain close
- relationships...
- 1439
- 01:12:29,986 --> 01:12:32,152
- with dissident intelligence
- sources.
- 1440
- 01:12:32,154 --> 01:12:33,820
- Is there a way we can
- verify that?
- 1441
- 01:12:33,822 --> 01:12:35,589
- No.
- 1442
- 01:12:35,591 --> 01:12:37,525
- See, that's kind of a problem
- for us...
- 1443
- 01:12:37,527 --> 01:12:39,060
- because we can't write a story...
- 1444
- 01:12:39,062 --> 01:12:44,832
- I want what America wants,
- a free and democratic Iraq.
- 1445
- 01:12:44,834 --> 01:12:46,801
- With you as its leader?
- 1446
- 01:12:46,803 --> 01:12:50,504
- If the people of Iraq wish
- for me to return, yes.
- 1447
- 01:12:50,506 --> 01:12:54,508
- I want the opportunity to help
- rebuild my country...
- 1448
- 01:12:54,510 --> 01:12:57,011
- the way Mandela did
- in South Africa.
- 1449
- 01:12:57,013 --> 01:13:01,548
- But Mandela didn't ask the U.S.
- to invade his country.
- 1450
- 01:13:01,550 --> 01:13:04,651
- He wasn't fighting terrorists.
- 1451
- 01:13:04,653 --> 01:13:06,887
- With all due respect, that's
- where the red flags...
- 1452
- 01:13:06,889 --> 01:13:08,722
- start to go up for us.
- 1453
- 01:13:08,724 --> 01:13:11,225
- Are you implying that I've
- created a false narrative...
- 1454
- 01:13:11,227 --> 01:13:12,994
- for my own pursuits?
- 1455
- 01:13:12,996 --> 01:13:15,295
- Is there another reason why
- you'd create a false narrative?
- 1456
- 01:13:15,297 --> 01:13:18,132
- I don't lie!
- 1457
- 01:13:18,134 --> 01:13:20,968
- Saddam Hussein has mobile
- chemical...
- 1458
- 01:13:20,970 --> 01:13:22,969
- and biological weapons labs.
- 1459
- 01:13:22,971 --> 01:13:27,208
- He has a nuclear program.
- He has ties to terrorists.
- 1460
- 01:13:27,210 --> 01:13:30,744
- And if you don't believe me,
- just ask the many other...
- 1461
- 01:13:30,746 --> 01:13:32,646
- defectors and hear
- what they say.
- 1462
- 01:13:32,648 --> 01:13:34,682
- They will all tell
- you the same thing.
- 1463
- 01:13:34,684 --> 01:13:39,656
- Don't they all get their
- information from you?
- 1464
- 01:13:43,091 --> 01:13:46,093
- If you were wondering why
- it took so long for me...
- 1465
- 01:13:46,095 --> 01:13:51,865
- to meet with you, it's this
- smug attitude.
- 1466
- 01:13:51,867 --> 01:13:55,735
- You have no intention of
- reporting anything I've said.
- 1467
- 01:13:55,737 --> 01:13:58,204
- Do you want us to just be your
- cheerleaders?
- 1468
- 01:13:58,206 --> 01:13:59,707
- All right, I think we
- should go.
- 1469
- 01:13:59,709 --> 01:14:03,143
- Thank you for your time.
- 1470
- 01:14:03,145 --> 01:14:07,748
- Now I see why no one reads
- anything you write.
- 1471
- 01:14:07,750 --> 01:14:11,319
- I am an advocate for the removal
- of a vicious dictator...
- 1472
- 01:14:11,321 --> 01:14:16,057
- for a free Iraq, an Iraq that
- will one day be a close ally...
- 1473
- 01:14:16,059 --> 01:14:20,828
- to your country, to Israel, and
- to all of the Western world.
- 1474
- 01:14:20,830 --> 01:14:24,164
- And exactly how will this happen
- after Saddam Hussein is gone?
- 1475
- 01:14:24,166 --> 01:14:25,865
- All right, come on, Landay.
- 1476
- 01:14:25,867 --> 01:14:27,701
- No, no, no, he says the world
- will be better off...
- 1477
- 01:14:27,703 --> 01:14:29,203
- but he doesn't say how.
- 1478
- 01:14:29,205 --> 01:14:31,705
- How would the removal
- of Saddam Hussein...
- 1479
- 01:14:31,707 --> 01:14:34,741
- not plunge Iraq into a bloody
- civil war?
- 1480
- 01:14:34,743 --> 01:14:36,677
- Tell us something that makes
- sense...
- 1481
- 01:14:36,679 --> 01:14:41,915
- anything that makes sense, and
- we'll write that story today.
- 1482
- 01:14:41,917 --> 01:14:43,183
- You can't!
- 1483
- 01:14:43,185 --> 01:14:45,785
- Because you have no
- idea what happens next.
- 1484
- 01:14:45,787 --> 01:14:47,821
- - And neither does anyone else.
- - John. John!
- 1485
- 01:14:47,823 --> 01:14:50,758
- I would rather go back and write
- for my high school paper...
- 1486
- 01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:52,093
- than to be used by you...
- 1487
- 01:14:52,095 --> 01:14:55,161
- to sell the American public
- your bullshit.
- 1488
- 01:14:55,163 --> 01:14:56,132
- All right.
- 1489
- 01:15:00,303 --> 01:15:04,204
- By the way, it's Knight <i>Ridder.</i>
- 1490
- 01:15:04,206 --> 01:15:06,007
- <i>Secretary of State Colin Powell
- will make the case...</i>
- 1491
- 01:15:06,009 --> 01:15:09,310
- <i>against Iraq in a nationally
- televised address...</i>
- 1492
- 01:15:09,312 --> 01:15:11,779
- <i>to the UN Security Council.</i>
- 1493
- 01:15:11,781 --> 01:15:13,780
- Looks like they're bringing
- in the closer.
- 1494
- 01:15:13,782 --> 01:15:15,249
- REPORTER: <i>Mr. Secretary,
- are you confident...</i>
- 1495
- 01:15:15,251 --> 01:15:16,851
- <i>you will make your case, sir?</i>
- 1496
- 01:15:16,853 --> 01:15:18,319
- You'll see.
- 1497
- 01:15:18,321 --> 01:15:20,154
- What the hell game have we've
- been playing?
- 1498
- 01:15:20,156 --> 01:15:22,292
- All we did is piss into the
- wind.
- 1499
- 01:15:24,426 --> 01:15:27,427
- We did our jobs.
- 1500
- 01:15:27,429 --> 01:15:30,830
- I should never have become
- a reporter.
- 1501
- 01:15:30,832 --> 01:15:33,870
- Damn that Woodward and
- Bernstein.
- 1502
- 01:15:36,339 --> 01:15:39,073
- They took down a president
- whose biggest crime...
- 1503
- 01:15:39,075 --> 01:15:42,910
- was trying to cover up some
- dirty political tricks.
- 1504
- 01:15:42,912 --> 01:15:45,279
- This president's about to do the
- worst thing any president...
- 1505
- 01:15:45,281 --> 01:15:47,718
- could do and he'll probably
- get re-elected.
- 1506
- 01:15:49,852 --> 01:15:51,787
- To the democratic experiment.
- 1507
- 01:15:55,257 --> 01:15:56,891
- POWELL:
- <i>Thank you, Mr. President.</i>
- 1508
- 01:15:56,893 --> 01:15:59,192
- <i>My colleagues, every statement
- I make today...</i>
- 1509
- 01:15:59,194 --> 01:16:03,931
- <i>is backed up by sources,
- solid sources.</i>
- 1510
- 01:16:03,933 --> 01:16:07,334
- <i>The gravity of this moment is
- matched by the gravity...</i>
- 1511
- 01:16:07,336 --> 01:16:10,337
- <i>of the threat that Iraq's
- weapons of mass destruction...</i>
- 1512
- 01:16:10,339 --> 01:16:11,905
- <i>pose to the world.</i>
- 1513
- 01:16:11,907 --> 01:16:15,709
- It was a set up, the whole damn
- thing was a set up.
- 1514
- 01:16:15,711 --> 01:16:18,244
- Tenet sent Powell a stack
- of files this high...
- 1515
- 01:16:18,246 --> 01:16:19,413
- that supported the invasion.
- 1516
- 01:16:19,415 --> 01:16:21,414
- <i>Saddam Hussein is determined...</i>
- 1517
- 01:16:21,416 --> 01:16:23,851
- <i>to get his hands
- on a nuclear bomb.</i>
- 1518
- 01:16:23,853 --> 01:16:25,218
- Cheney sent Scooter Libby...
- 1519
- 01:16:25,220 --> 01:16:27,887
- to push three main arguments
- in those files.
- 1520
- 01:16:27,889 --> 01:16:29,423
- One: Saddam's human rights
- abuses...
- 1521
- 01:16:29,425 --> 01:16:30,990
- which everybody knew about.
- 1522
- 01:16:30,992 --> 01:16:32,860
- Two: his links to al Qaeda,
- which Powell...
- 1523
- 01:16:32,862 --> 01:16:34,762
- of course, threw right
- in the trash.
- 1524
- 01:16:34,764 --> 01:16:39,400
- And the third focused
- on Iraq's WMD.
- 1525
- 01:16:39,402 --> 01:16:41,869
- <i>Leaving Saddam Hussein in
- possession of weapons...</i>
- 1526
- 01:16:41,871 --> 01:16:44,204
- <i>of mass destruction for a few
- more months or years...</i>
- 1527
- 01:16:44,206 --> 01:16:48,241
- <i>is not an option, not in a
- post-September 11th world.</i>
- 1528
- 01:16:48,243 --> 01:16:52,178
- Over a four-day period, Powell
- made every single CIA officer...
- 1529
- 01:16:52,180 --> 01:16:55,415
- defend every so-called piece
- of evidence in those files.
- 1530
- 01:16:55,417 --> 01:16:57,250
- He threw out 80% of them.
- 1531
- 01:16:57,252 --> 01:16:59,018
- At the end of the four days...
- 1532
- 01:16:59,020 --> 01:17:01,254
- Powell looked Tenet right
- in the eye and said...
- 1533
- 01:17:01,256 --> 01:17:06,192
- "George, can we stand
- by every word of this?"
- 1534
- 01:17:06,194 --> 01:17:13,066
- And Tenet said, "Everything in
- there is gold, I promise you."
- 1535
- 01:17:13,068 --> 01:17:15,302
- To which Powell replied, "Well,
- that's good, George.
- 1536
- 01:17:15,304 --> 01:17:17,271
- "I'm glad you feel that way,
- 'cause you're going to be...
- 1537
- 01:17:17,273 --> 01:17:20,307
- "sitting right behind me when
- I present this to the world."
- 1538
- 01:17:20,309 --> 01:17:24,410
- <i>We must not fail in our duty
- and our responsibility...</i>
- 1539
- 01:17:24,412 --> 01:17:26,379
- <i>to the citizens of the
- countries...</i>
- 1540
- 01:17:26,381 --> 01:17:29,450
- <i>that are represented
- by this body.</i>
- 1541
- 01:17:29,452 --> 01:17:32,285
- Colin took one for the team.
- 1542
- 01:17:32,287 --> 01:17:34,320
- Always the good soldier.
- 1543
- 01:17:34,322 --> 01:17:36,323
- BUSH:
- <i>Has the Iraqi regime fully...</i>
- 1544
- 01:17:36,325 --> 01:17:39,927
- <i>and unconditionally disarmed?</i>
- 1545
- 01:17:39,929 --> 01:17:43,097
- <i>The only acceptable outcome is
- the one already defined...</i>
- 1546
- 01:17:43,099 --> 01:17:45,865
- <i>by a unanimous vote of the
- Security Council.</i>
- 1547
- 01:17:45,867 --> 01:17:49,003
- <i>Total disarmament.</i>
- 1548
- 01:17:49,005 --> 01:17:51,204
- <i>Great Britain, Spain and the
- United States have introduced..</i>
- 1549
- 01:17:51,206 --> 01:17:54,508
- <i>a new resolution stating that
- Iraq has failed to meet...</i>
- 1550
- 01:17:54,510 --> 01:18:01,382
- <i>the requirements
- of Resolution 1441.</i>
- 1551
- 01:18:01,384 --> 01:18:05,319
- <i>This is a fact, it cannot
- be denied.</i>
- 1552
- 01:18:05,321 --> 01:18:06,553
- REPORTER: <i>And what harm
- would it do to give...</i>
- 1553
- 01:18:06,555 --> 01:18:08,489
- <i>Saddam a final ultimatum?</i>
- 1554
- 01:18:08,491 --> 01:18:11,392
- <i>A two or three day deadline
- to disarm or face force?</i>
- 1555
- 01:18:11,394 --> 01:18:13,994
- <i>September the 11th changed
- the strategic thinking...</i>
- 1556
- 01:18:13,996 --> 01:18:16,230
- <i>at least as far as I was
- concerned...</i>
- 1557
- 01:18:16,232 --> 01:18:18,865
- <i>for how to protect our country.</i>
- 1558
- 01:18:18,867 --> 01:18:24,038
- <i>My job is to protect the
- American people.</i>
- 1559
- 01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:27,040
- <i>Used to be that we could think
- that you could contain...</i>
- 1560
- 01:18:27,042 --> 01:18:28,909
- <i>a person like Saddam Hussein...</i>
- 1561
- 01:18:28,911 --> 01:18:31,611
- <i>that oceans would protect us
- from his type of terror.</i>
- 1562
- 01:18:31,613 --> 01:18:33,513
- <i>(PHONE RINGS)</i>
- 1563
- 01:18:33,515 --> 01:18:35,516
- <i>September the 11th should say
- to the American people...</i>
- 1564
- 01:18:35,518 --> 01:18:37,418
- Hello?
- 1565
- 01:18:37,420 --> 01:18:39,352
- You need to pack your bags.
- 1566
- 01:18:39,354 --> 01:18:42,589
- Right.
- 1567
- 01:18:42,591 --> 01:18:45,092
- <i>In the hands of a terrorist
- organization...</i>
- 1568
- 01:18:45,094 --> 01:18:48,428
- <i>could be deployed here at home.</i>
- 1569
- 01:18:48,430 --> 01:18:52,432
- <i>King, John King. This is a
- scripted...</i>
- 1570
- 01:18:52,434 --> 01:18:54,267
- <i>Thank you, Mr. President.</i>
- 1571
- 01:18:54,269 --> 01:18:56,603
- <i>Sir, how would you answer your
- critics who say that they...</i>
- 1572
- 01:18:56,605 --> 01:18:58,338
- <i>They think this is somehow
- personal?</i>
- 1573
- 01:18:58,340 --> 01:19:00,374
- <i>As Senator Kennedy put it
- tonight...</i>
- 1574
- 01:19:00,376 --> 01:19:02,877
- <i>he said your fixation
- with Saddam Hussein...</i>
- 1575
- 01:19:02,879 --> 01:19:05,079
- <i>is making the world a more
- dangerous place.</i>
- 1576
- 01:19:05,081 --> 01:19:07,114
- <i>And as you prepare the American
- people for the possibility...</i>
- 1577
- 01:19:07,116 --> 01:19:09,316
- <i>of military conflict, could you
- share with us...</i>
- 1578
- 01:19:09,318 --> 01:19:11,451
- <i>any of the scenarios your
- advisors have shared...</i>
- 1579
- 01:19:11,453 --> 01:19:15,222
- <i>with you about worst-case
- scenarios?</i>
- 1580
- 01:19:15,224 --> 01:19:21,464
- You make sure the... this country
- knows what's going on out there.
- 1581
- 01:19:22,598 --> 01:19:25,031
- - Yeah?
- - I will.
- 1582
- 01:19:25,033 --> 01:19:29,335
- <i>I swore to protect and defend
- the Constitution.</i>
- 1583
- 01:19:29,337 --> 01:19:31,371
- <i>He has weapons of mass
- destruction...</i>
- 1584
- 01:19:31,373 --> 01:19:34,475
- <i>and he has used weapons
- of mass destruction.</i>
- 1585
- 01:19:34,477 --> 01:19:36,176
- <i>He has trained and financed...</i>
- 1586
- 01:19:36,178 --> 01:19:38,646
- <i>al Qaeda-type organizations
- before.</i>
- 1587
- 01:19:38,648 --> 01:19:42,449
- <i>I take the threat seriously,
- and I'll deal with the threat.</i>
- 1588
- 01:19:42,451 --> 01:19:45,319
- <i>I hope it can be done
- peacefully.</i>
- 1589
- 01:19:45,321 --> 01:19:48,422
- <i>They hate what we stand for.</i>
- 1590
- 01:19:48,424 --> 01:19:50,227
- <i>We love freedom, and we're
- not changing.</i>
- 1591
- 01:19:52,127 --> 01:19:54,093
- REPORTER: <i>Mr. President,
- millions of Americans can...</i>
- 1592
- 01:19:54,095 --> 01:19:57,097
- <i>recall a time when leaders from
- both parties set this country..</i>
- 1593
- 01:19:57,099 --> 01:19:59,333
- <i>on a mission of regime change
- in Vietnam.</i>
- 1594
- 01:19:59,335 --> 01:20:01,968
- <i>50,000 Americans died.</i>
- 1595
- 01:20:01,970 --> 01:20:04,938
- <i>The regime is still there in
- Hanoi and it hasn't harmed...</i>
- 1596
- 01:20:04,940 --> 01:20:06,606
- <i>or threatened a single American
- in 30 years...</i>
- 1597
- 01:20:06,608 --> 01:20:08,409
- <i>since the war ended.</i>
- 1598
- 01:20:08,411 --> 01:20:11,177
- <i>What can you say tonight, sir,
- to the sons and daughters...</i>
- 1599
- 01:20:11,179 --> 01:20:14,647
- <i>of the Americans who served in
- Vietnam to assure them that...</i>
- 1600
- 01:20:14,649 --> 01:20:18,418
- <i>you will not lead this country
- down a similar path in Iraq?</i>
- 1601
- 01:20:18,420 --> 01:20:21,387
- BUSH: <i>That's a great question.</i>
- 1602
- 01:20:21,389 --> 01:20:24,191
- <i>No doubt, there's risks with
- any military operation.</i>
- 1603
- 01:20:24,193 --> 01:20:26,026
- <i>I know that.</i>
- 1604
- 01:20:26,028 --> 01:20:28,462
- It's a good thing he can draw
- on all that experience he got...
- 1605
- 01:20:28,464 --> 01:20:30,664
- while not serving in the
- National Guard.
- 1606
- 01:20:30,666 --> 01:20:34,034
- <i>But it's very clear what we
- intend to do.</i>
- 1607
- 01:20:34,036 --> 01:20:36,139
- <i>And our mission won't change.</i>
- 1608
- 01:20:38,674 --> 01:20:43,343
- <i>It could last, you know, six
- days, six weeks...</i>
- 1609
- 01:20:43,345 --> 01:20:47,114
- <i>I doubt six months.</i>
- 1610
- 01:20:47,116 --> 01:20:48,649
- <i>There's a lot of money to pay
- for this...</i>
- 1611
- 01:20:48,651 --> 01:20:50,616
- <i>that doesn't have to be
- U.S. taxpayer money.</i>
- 1612
- 01:20:50,618 --> 01:20:53,152
- <i>We're dealing with a country
- that can really finance...</i>
- 1613
- 01:20:53,154 --> 01:20:56,022
- <i>its own reconstruction,
- and relatively soon.</i>
- 1614
- 01:20:56,024 --> 01:20:58,592
- <i>There will always be some
- uncertainty...</i>
- 1615
- 01:20:58,594 --> 01:21:01,328
- <i>about how quickly he can
- acquire nuclear weapons...</i>
- 1616
- 01:21:01,330 --> 01:21:04,263
- <i>but we don't want the smoking
- gun to be a mushroom cloud.</i>
- 1617
- 01:21:04,265 --> 01:21:06,165
- RUSSERT: <i>Do you think the
- America people...</i>
- 1618
- 01:21:06,167 --> 01:21:09,636
- <i>are prepared for a long,
- costly, and bloody battle...</i>
- 1619
- 01:21:09,638 --> 01:21:12,106
- <i>with significant American
- casualties?</i>
- 1620
- 01:21:12,108 --> 01:21:14,173
- <i>I don't think it's likely
- to unfold that way, Tim...</i>
- 1621
- 01:21:14,175 --> 01:21:16,276
- <i>because I really do believe we
- will be greeted as liberators.</i>
- 1622
- 01:21:16,278 --> 01:21:19,213
- BLITZER: <i>Six weeks after the
- war had begun, the President...</i>
- 1623
- 01:21:19,215 --> 01:21:21,481
- <i>is set to deliver a very
- carefully worded speech...</i>
- 1624
- 01:21:21,483 --> 01:21:24,084
- <i>on a carrier in the Pacific.</i>
- 1625
- 01:21:24,086 --> 01:21:27,620
- BUSH: <i>My fellow Americans,
- major combat operations...</i>
- 1626
- 01:21:27,622 --> 01:21:29,556
- <i>in Iraq have ended.</i>
- 1627
- 01:21:29,558 --> 01:21:32,659
- <i>In the battle of Iraq,
- the United States...</i>
- 1628
- 01:21:32,661 --> 01:21:35,498
- <i>and our allies have prevailed.</i>
- 1629
- 01:21:40,669 --> 01:21:42,238
- (LOUD EXPLOSION)
- 1630
- 01:21:52,148 --> 01:21:55,051
- <i>(SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING)</i>
- 1631
- 01:22:17,572 --> 01:22:19,575
- I want to go down there.
- 1632
- 01:22:37,492 --> 01:22:40,496
- They were the first to die.
- 1633
- 01:22:45,233 --> 01:22:47,370
- Were you there?
- 1634
- 01:22:50,706 --> 01:22:52,108
- Thank you.
- 1635
- 01:22:57,545 --> 01:22:59,281
- Thank you, son.
- 1636
- 01:23:12,428 --> 01:23:15,465
- <i>(SOMBER MUSIC CONTINUES)</i>
- 1637
- 01:24:04,779 --> 01:24:06,579
- <i>Jonathan, how did it feel,
- therefore...</i>
- 1638
- 01:24:06,581 --> 01:24:10,350
- <i>to be the lone holdouts in this
- pursuit of truth and fact?</i>
- 1639
- 01:24:10,352 --> 01:24:12,718
- <i>It was very lonely and what
- made it actually one...</i>
- 1640
- 01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:14,288
- <i>of the ironies is...</i>
- 1641
- 01:24:14,290 --> 01:24:15,955
- <i>that every time we would write
- something...</i>
- 1642
- 01:24:15,957 --> 01:24:19,325
- <i>the White House would say
- nothing, because we realized...</i>
- 1643
- 01:24:19,327 --> 01:24:21,561
- <i>after a while that that would
- have been the best...</i>
- 1644
- 01:24:21,563 --> 01:24:24,530
- <i>advertising for our stories we
- could have possibly asked for.</i>
- 1645
- 01:24:24,532 --> 01:24:25,632
- <i>There's a problem with
- journalism...</i>
- 1646
- 01:24:25,634 --> 01:24:27,433
- <i>in Washington, which is access.</i>
- 1647
- 01:24:27,435 --> 01:24:29,302
- <i>And The New York Times and
- others had access to the top...</i>
- 1648
- 01:24:29,304 --> 01:24:30,736
- <i>officials who were spinning
- this line.</i>
- 1649
- 01:24:30,738 --> 01:24:32,371
- <i>We talked to those people,
- as well...</i>
- 1650
- 01:24:32,373 --> 01:24:33,640
- <i>but most of our reporting,
- Christiane...</i>
- 1651
- 01:24:33,642 --> 01:24:35,642
- <i>was with intelligence,
- military...</i>
- 1652
- 01:24:35,644 --> 01:24:36,810
- <i>and diplomatic mid-level...</i>
- 1653
- 01:24:36,812 --> 01:24:38,811
- - <i>Lower level?</i>
- - <i>Lower level.</i>
- 1654
- 01:24:38,813 --> 01:24:40,780
- <i>The types journalists don't
- normally talk to or go after.</i>
- 1655
- 01:24:40,782 --> 01:24:42,783
- <i>Can I just give a little
- credit, also, to the man...</i>
- 1656
- 01:24:42,785 --> 01:24:44,718
- <i>who was our boss at the time,
- John Walcott.</i>
- 1657
- 01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:46,887
- <i>Higher levels of
- civilization...</i>
- 1658
- 01:24:46,889 --> 01:24:49,455
- <i>must depend even more
- heavily...</i>
- 1659
- 01:24:49,457 --> 01:24:52,926
- <i>on a conscientious respect for
- the importance of honesty...</i>
- 1660
- 01:24:52,928 --> 01:24:56,829
- <i>and clarity in reporting the
- facts and out of stubborn...</i>
- 1661
- 01:24:56,831 --> 01:25:02,468
- <i>concern for accuracy in
- determining what the facts are.</i>
- 1662
- 01:25:02,470 --> 01:25:07,240
- <i>We need to find some way
- to cover the world so that...</i>
- 1663
- 01:25:07,242 --> 01:25:09,543
- <i>we know what's happening
- out there...</i>
- 1664
- 01:25:09,545 --> 01:25:11,311
- <i>that we know the truth
- about it...</i>
- 1665
- 01:25:11,313 --> 01:25:15,882
- <i>so we can avoid mistakes...</i>
- 1666
- 01:25:15,884 --> 01:25:18,884
- <i>mistakes like Iraq.</i>
- 1667
- 01:25:18,886 --> 01:25:21,021
- <i>The intelligence was
- what it was.</i>
- 1668
- 01:25:21,023 --> 01:25:22,888
- <i>You know, people like me
- couldn't make it up.</i>
- 1669
- 01:25:22,890 --> 01:25:24,591
- STEWART: <i>The intelligence
- wasn't what it was...</i>
- 1670
- 01:25:24,593 --> 01:25:26,560
- <i>and not everybody got it wrong.</i>
- 1671
- 01:25:26,562 --> 01:25:29,431
- <i>Almost everybody did,
- except for Knight Ridder.</i>
- 1672
- 01:25:29,433 --> 01:25:31,999
- Subtitles by explosiveskull
- 1673
- 01:25:32,001 --> 01:25:34,971
- <i>(SOFT MUSIC PLAYING)</i>
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