Reverence, Sol and playoffs

Sol on the subject:
[10:39:19] <Solll> reverence had lot of things to do
[10:39:21] <Solll> was buisy
[10:39:26] <Solll> smthing like that
[10:39:33] <Solll> so he asked me to play later
[10:39:44] <Solll> Solll, 03.12.2014 20:02:48:
[10:39:44] <Solll> 02.11.2014 22:02:46  Reverence__
[10:39:44] <Solll> ok
[10:39:44] <Solll> 22:02:49  i postponed it
[10:39:44] <Solll> 22:02:51  not sure yet
[10:39:45] <Solll> 22:02:54  stay at irc we will arrange
[10:39:47] <Solll> Ceba, 20:07:00:
[10:39:49] <Solll> ye
[10:40:29] <claire> ok
[10:40:39] <claire> well it's still after the deadline
[10:40:57] <claire> why didn't you guys play during the round it was scheduled?
[10:41:18] <Solll> 5 min
[10:41:34] <claire> like i dont understand why all these players who disappear for weeks/months at time suddenly wake up an hour before the deadline and try to play all their games
[10:41:57] <claire> and then get mad when it doesn't happen or they miss the deadline and they dont make it to playoffs
[10:42:14] <claire> rev played 1 game (not including  yours)
[10:42:17] <claire> the entire season
[10:42:19] <claire> 1
[10:44:23] <Solll> i'm here
[10:44:28] <Solll> you left? )
[10:45:02] <claire> no no
[10:45:03] <claire> im here
[10:45:04] <claire> :)
[10:45:18] <claire> why are you so concerened with rev?
[10:45:28] <Solll> let me finish my story )
[10:45:29] <Solll> so
[10:45:31] <claire> you're in playoffs no matter what happened with this match
[10:45:33] <claire> ok continu e
[10:46:08] <Solll> then on saturday we agreed with rev to play on sunday
[10:46:36] <claire> k
[10:46:37] <Solll> Solll, 06.12.2014 20:23:16:
[10:46:37] <Solll> tomorrow
[10:46:37] <Solll> Solll, 20:23:17:
[10:46:37] <Solll> yes
[10:46:38] <Solll> Reverence_, 20:23:26:
[10:46:40] <Solll> is ok
[10:46:42] <Solll> Solll, 20:23:49:
[10:46:44] <Solll> ok? mesage me tomorrow whren you ready? i need 20-50 minutes to prepare
[10:47:23] <Solll> Reverence_, 07.12.2014 17:40:08:
[10:47:24] <Solll> i came here to msg u
[10:47:24] <Solll> Solll, 17:41:15:
[10:47:24] <Solll> ok lets try, as i said i need 30-50 minutes to be ready
[10:47:43] <Solll> Reverence_, 07.12.2014 18:37:00:
[10:47:43] <Solll> lets play?
[10:47:43] <Solll> Solll, 18:38:35:
[10:47:43] <Solll> just seated to eat
[10:48:00] <Solll> Solll, 07.12.2014 17:54:38:
[10:48:01] <Solll> i feel thick ( 37.5
[10:48:15] <Solll> Reverence_, 07.12.2014 18:37:00:
[10:48:15] <Solll> lets play?
[10:48:15] <Solll> Solll, 18:38:35:
[10:48:15] <Solll> just seated to eat
[10:48:15] <Solll> Reverence_, 18:59:16:
[10:48:16] <Solll> ok
[10:48:18] <Solll> Reverence_, 19:23:34:
[10:48:20] <Solll> play play?
[10:48:22] <Solll> Solll, 19:46:51:
[10:48:24] <Solll> hre
[10:48:26] <Solll> Solll, 19:46:53:
[10:48:28] <Solll> gere
[10:48:30] <Solll> Solll, 19:47:02:
[10:48:32] <Solll> making tea and talking to ceba
[10:48:34] <Solll> Reverence_, 19:47:28:
[10:48:36] <Solll> running short on time
[10:48:38] <Solll> Reverence_, 19:47:29:
[10:48:40] <Solll> this end
[10:48:42] <Solll> Reverence_, 19:47:33:
[10:48:44] <Solll> can we hurry and start?
[10:48:46] <Solll> Solll,
[10:48:48] <Solll> 19:50:03:
[10:48:50] <Solll> lets talk 3 of us with ceba
[10:48:54] <Solll> so
[10:48:56] <Solll> we sheduled for sunday
[10:48:58] <Solll> and i was not ready as i promised
[10:49:07] <Solll> i was sick and wanted to talk to ceba if it can be played later
[10:49:45] <Solll> Solll, 07.12.2014 19:43:16:
[10:49:45] <Solll> can we play with reverence later?
[10:49:45] <Solll> Solll, 19:43:19:
[10:49:45] <Solll> i got sick
[10:49:45] <Solll> Solll, 19:43:22:
[10:49:45] <Solll> 37/5 t
[10:49:48] <Solll> Solll, 19:43:27:
[10:49:50] <Solll> 37.5
[10:49:52] <Solll> Ceba, 19:44:40:
[10:49:54] <Solll> hm
[10:49:56] <Solll> Solll, 19:46:00:
[10:49:58] <Solll> can we play with reverence later?
[10:50:00] <Solll> Ceba, 19:46:25:
[10:50:02] <Solll> well i havent seen him for a while
[10:50:04] <Solll> Ceba, 19:46:36:
[10:50:06] <Solll> i though he stopped playing
[10:50:08] <Solll> Ceba, 19:46:46:
[10:50:09] <Solll> i am not sure about your game
[10:50:12] <Solll> Ceba,
[10:50:14] <Solll> 19:46:52:
[10:50:16] <Solll> when can you play?
[10:50:18] <Solll> Solll, 19:47:39:
[10:50:20] <Solll> tomorrow or when?
[10:50:22] <Solll> Solll, 19:47:54:
[10:50:24] <Solll> lets talk 3 of us
[10:50:26] <Solll> Solll, 19:47:57:
[10:50:27] <Solll> make chanel?
[10:50:30] <Solll> Ceba, 07.12.2014 20:18:51:
[10:50:32] <Solll> well i will write to claire about it
[10:50:34] <Solll> Ceba, 20:19:08:
[10:50:36] <Solll> if he sees that before he makes playoffs tree then its ok
[10:50:38] <Solll> Ceba, 20:19:13:
[10:50:40] <Solll> what time?
[10:50:42] <Solll> end of copypasts
[10:50:44] <Solll> i think )
[10:50:46] <Solll> so
[10:50:48] <Solll> i was not ready actually
[10:50:58] <Solll> we didnt managed to talk 3 of us
[10:51:10] <claire> when was the game actually played?
[10:51:14] <Solll> today
[10:51:42] <claire> nobody sent screens?
[10:51:48] <Solll> i ahve them
[10:51:55] <Solll> i mean i can make them
[10:51:59] <Solll> we played 3 hour ago
[10:51:59] <claire> ...
[10:52:10] <claire> so if you played 3 hours ago
[10:52:14] <Solll> mb 5
[10:52:18] <Solll> i dont remember exactly
[10:52:22] <Solll> i'll check now
[10:52:23] <claire> and this was a veery large time crunch....
[10:52:28] <claire> why didn't anyone say anything?
[10:52:36] <claire> i made the playoff tree like 1 hour ago
[10:52:46] <claire> no emails before that
[10:52:50] <claire> i STILL havne't seen screens
[10:52:51] <Solll> 17 53 -13 08
[10:52:59] <claire> my point is
[10:53:28] <Solll> [09 äåê 14 12:10] * Reverence_: gunna play solll 1 hour from now
[10:53:28] <claire> if this was such a crucial match for rev (deciding playoffs or not) why didn't he make any effort at all to let us know it was played
[10:53:45] <Solll> he writed this on edl cxhanel
[10:56:05] <claire> well i didn't see the message
[10:56:19] <claire> saying "me and sol played" in irc is hardly an offical report of a match
[10:56:24] <Solll> > if this was such a crucial match for rev (deciding playoffs
[10:56:24] <Solll> > or not) why didn't he make any effort at all to let us know
[10:56:24] <Solll> > it was played
[10:56:24] <Solll> because he dont understand it the way as you, he dont know that he should have instantly msg you
[10:56:31] <claire> not even in a private message...just in the channel
[10:56:55] <claire> if he doesn't know that...then he has very large mental problems
[10:57:15] <claire> like, i just dont understand the thinking involved here
[10:57:18] <claire> and either way
[10:57:51] <claire> [10:50:32] <Solll> well i will write to claire about it
[10:57:51] <claire> [10:50:34] <Solll> Ceba, 20:19:08:
[10:57:51] <claire> [10:50:36] <Solll> if he sees that before he makes playoffs tree then its ok
[10:57:58] <claire> i didn't see it
[10:58:00] <Solll> Also rev played with salad and alexJ
[10:58:01] <claire> the tree is up
[10:58:03] <Solll> not 1 game
[10:58:05] <Solll> he played 2
[10:58:17] <claire> the salad "game" wasn't a game
[10:58:25] <claire> he played for like 2 minutes and quit
[10:58:38] <Solll> its salad desicions?
[10:58:46] <claire> no it was rev's decision
[10:58:58] <claire> he said he didn't want to play and said to give it to salad
[10:59:16] <claire> we gave them opportunity to replay the match too
[10:59:21] <claire> and rev wasn't interested
[10:59:37] <claire> i bent over backwards for him and a bunch of other players
[10:59:58] <claire> but i get shit on because he can't make it happen on time
[11:01:10] <Solll> what "bent over" means?
[11:01:58] <claire> it means i went out of my way...spent a lot time and effort for them
[11:02:05] <claire> and got nothing for it
[11:02:22] <claire> rev acts like the world owes him something
[11:02:32] <claire> like i should feel lucky he's playing
[11:03:04] <Solll> dunno
[11:03:08] <Solll> he win me
[11:03:11] <Solll> and alexJ
[11:03:14] <claire> when in reality...he's just unreliable, cant follow the rules and gets mad when things dont go his way when it's his fault
[11:03:19] <claire> well
[11:03:24] <claire> either way
[11:03:28] <claire> he's not in playoffs
[11:03:29] <claire> you are
[11:03:31] <claire> :)
[11:04:03] <Solll> But it was i who wasnt ready on discussed time
[11:04:14] <claire> doesn't matter
[11:04:16] <claire> not your fault
[11:04:26] <claire> well maybe a little
[11:04:27] <claire> :)
[11:04:28] <claire> but
[11:04:30] <claire> doesn't matter
[11:04:37] <Solll> why it doesnt matter?
[11:04:54] <Solll> if we got match played, isnt it all that needed?
[11:04:59] <claire> rev shouldn't have waited until the day of the deadline to try to play his games
[11:05:33] <Solll> were you on chanel?
[11:05:35] <claire> he should have played these games when they were scheduled
[11:05:41] <Solll> when he writes we are going to play?
[11:05:59] <claire> no, that was 5am here
[11:06:15] <claire> <Solll> if we got match played, isnt it all that needed?
[11:06:24] <claire> the problem is ive already put up the playoff tree
[11:06:29] <claire> and it's after the deadline
[11:06:48] <Solll> Check
[11:06:48] <Solll> 18:07:00 [11:52:08] <Reverence_> ok me and solll played
[11:06:52] <claire> im not willing to give any more effort to undo the work ive already done just because rev can't get his shit together on time
[11:06:57] <Solll> he mesaged edl chanel
[11:07:00] <claire> yes
[11:07:02] <Solll> but you ddnt see that?
[11:07:02] <claire> i see that NOW
[11:07:07] <claire> no i didn't
[11:07:13] <claire> but still
[11:07:18] <claire> where are the screens?
[11:07:23] <Solll> so its a bit of your falt also?
[11:07:24] <claire> if he msged the channel why didn't he send screens?
[11:07:31] <claire> how is it MY fault?
[11:07:37] <claire> the deadline was SUNDAY
[11:07:39] <Solll> that you didnt seen
[11:07:42] <claire> not tuesday morning at 5am
[11:08:01] <Solll> his fault is that he dodnt slaped you
[11:08:11] <claire> his fault that he dind't play on time
[11:08:15] <claire> or send screens
[11:08:20] <claire> even if i saw that
[11:08:23] <Solll> i can send screens in 5 mins
[11:08:28] <claire> no
[11:08:30] <claire> doesn't matter
[11:08:32] <Solll> :-)
[11:08:37] <claire> i needed the email with the screens HOURS ago
[11:08:42] <claire> it's just too late
[11:08:54] <Solll> the tree is impossible to change?
[11:08:58] <claire> not at all
[11:09:06] <claire> but im not willing to put more work in to change it
[11:09:07] <Solll> so whats the reason?
[11:09:08] <claire> for him
[11:09:15] <claire> ive done the work
[11:09:18] <claire> im not doing it again
[11:09:30] <claire> for a player who doens't play his games
[11:09:34] <claire> if i add rev
[11:09:44] <claire> he'll disappear again for another 2 months
[11:09:48] <claire> and not play his games
[11:09:52] <claire> and hold up playoffs
[11:09:58] <claire> we all know it
[11:10:04] <Solll> mb
[11:10:06] <claire> it's not worth the trouble
[11:10:11] <Solll> dont know for shure
[11:10:21] <claire> of course not
[11:10:23] <claire> me either
[11:10:24] <claire> but
[11:10:28] <claire> people like him need to learn
[11:10:35] <claire> not to waste other people's time
[11:10:51] <claire> and him not getting something that he wants is a good learning experience
[11:11:10] <claire> he needs to figure out there are consequences to his actions
[11:11:27] <claire> and not playing games, disappearing when he made a commitment is not ok
[11:11:43] <claire> im happy he made an effort at the end to get the games played
[11:11:45] <claire> but it was too late
[11:11:53] <claire> he should have made that effort 1 week ago
[11:11:55] <claire> not 1 day ago
[11:11:59] <Solll> if he would send screens it wouldnt?
[11:12:08] <claire> no
[11:12:24] <Solll> no what? )
[11:12:40] <claire> <Solll> if he would send screens it wouldnt?
[11:12:50] <claire> you mean now or back then?
[11:12:58] <Solll> right after we played
[11:13:14] <Solll> would you counted match?
[11:13:22] <claire> if i saw that you played and had screens before i made the playoff tree this morning
[11:13:28] <claire> yes i would've added him
[11:13:40] <Solll> so his problem is that he didnt send screens
[11:13:44] <Solll> and didnt messaged you
[11:13:54] <claire> no the problem is he just doesn't follow the rules
[11:14:04] <claire> look man
[11:14:07] <claire> i gotta run
[11:14:23] <Solll> ok ) i think i understand your point of view
[11:14:26] <claire> :)
[11:14:32] <claire> im sorry it didn't work out fo rhim
[11:14:34] <claire> for him
[11:14:46] <claire> but it's nobodys fault but Rev's
[11:15:04] <claire> hopefully he'll learn that and follow the rules better next year
[11:15:16] <claire> i gotta run...ill ttyl
[11:15:49] <claire> oh and
[11:15:51] <claire> ..
[11:16:09] <claire> [08:04:18] <Reverence_> [06:52:54] ok me and solll played
[11:16:12] <claire> in #edl
[11:16:18] <claire> he didn't even say if he won or not!
[11:16:25] <claire> that message is totally useless
[11:16:33] <Solll> it's persons properties
[11:16:42] <Solll> dunno how to say
[11:16:55] <Solll> dont know english word )
[11:16:57] <claire> :)
[11:16:57] <claire> sok
[11:17:01] <claire> i think i know what you mean
[11:17:04] <claire> anyways
[11:17:06] <claire> ill ttyl
[11:17:12] <Solll> ok

Rev on the subject

[09:43:41] <Reverence_> maybe you have some issue with me, you didn't give me any credit for the fact i was here all weekend trying to arrange or find mhz - i played sol before the playoff tables were put up yet you didn't take any notice of this either and made playoffs
[09:44:01] <Reverence_> whatever i tried to do what i could over weekend
[09:46:03] <claire> ...
[09:46:13] <claire> i have no issues with anyone
[09:46:21] <claire> you say (now) that you played sol
[09:46:30] <claire> were you planning on telling anyone?
[09:46:39] <claire> i dont have an email with screenshots...
[09:46:40] <Reverence_> it's in irc
[09:46:44] <claire> where?
[09:46:47] <Reverence_> read
[09:46:48] <Reverence_> u weere there
[09:46:51] <Reverence_> i specifically
[09:46:52] <Reverence_> wrote it there
[09:46:56] <Reverence_> and mhz
[09:46:58] <Reverence_> is fucking
[09:46:59] <Reverence_> dodging me
[09:47:04] <Reverence_> msgs at 5 am
[09:47:06] <Reverence_> looking
[09:47:07] <Reverence_> i respond
[09:47:12] <Reverence_> he says he can't play till wednedday
[09:47:21] <Reverence_> [05:18:33] *** MHZ has joined #EDL[05:18:39] * MHZ slaps Reverence_ around a bit with a large trout[06:14:59] *** ad_-`` has joined #EDL[06:31:37] *** ad_-`` has quit IRC: Signed off[06:46:29] <Reverence_> mhz[06:46:31] <Reverence_> lets play now
[09:47:31] <claire> im glad you tried to play him
[09:47:34] <Reverence_> 0:06:28] *** ackaaa has joined #EDL[10:10:17] <Reverence_> gunna play solll 1 hour from now[10:10:35] <Reverence_> mhz random msgs at 5am[10:10:39] <Reverence_> trying to play with him also[10:18:51] <MHZ> i'm here)[10:18:59] <Reverence_> great[10:19:02] <Reverence_> want to play in 2 hours?[10:19:29] <MHZ> but i can't play[10:19:37] <Reverence_> can u play now?
[09:47:36] <claire> but the deadline was up on sunday
[09:47:39] <Reverence_> [10:19:57] <MHZ> nope[10:20:02] <Reverence_> ok[10:20:03] <Reverence_> when?[10:22:59] <MHZ> tomorrow, 18-19 cet..[10:23:14] <Reverence_> if admins are ok with that i can also
[09:47:40] <Reverence_> i know
[09:47:41] <Reverence_> i tried
[09:47:43] <Reverence_> me and sol
[09:47:45] <Reverence_> arranged for sunday
[09:47:48] <Reverence_> but he was late
[09:47:50] <Reverence_> and i had to go
[09:47:52] <claire> again
[09:47:55] <claire> deadline was on sunday
[09:48:02] <Reverence_> and what baout mhz
[09:48:03] <Reverence_> i was here
[09:48:04] <Reverence_> all weekend
[09:48:06] <Reverence_> where was he
[09:48:09] <Reverence_> nowheere
[09:48:15] <Reverence_> effort was equal between me and mhz
[09:48:19] <Reverence_> between me and kiknex
[09:48:21] <Reverence_> he  put in lots more
[09:48:23] <Reverence_> so he can take w.o
[09:48:27] <Reverence_> i think that is fair
[09:48:28] <Reverence_> mhz no
[09:48:43] <Reverence_> i won sol
[09:48:45] <Reverence_> 2-0
[09:48:52] <Reverence_> my first game
[09:48:54] <Reverence_> in 3 weeks
[09:48:55] <Reverence_> didn't practice
[09:48:57] <Reverence_> no warmup
[09:48:57] <Reverence_> just play
[09:49:40] <claire> [09:48:15] <Reverence_> effort was equal between me and mhz
[09:49:45] <claire> yes so you both got a w/o
[09:49:48] <claire> equal
[09:49:51] <Reverence_> and
[09:49:52] <Reverence_> what about
[09:49:53] <Reverence_> the deadline
[09:49:54] <Reverence_> i was here
[09:49:57] <Reverence_> look at irc
[09:49:57] <Reverence_> logs
[09:50:00] <Reverence_> i am there all fucking weekend
[09:50:02] <Reverence_> trying to arrange
[09:50:06] <Reverence_> i even wrote
[09:50:07] <Reverence_> on ur website
[09:50:10] <Reverence_> like u asked me before
[09:50:21] <Reverence_> i made more effort when deadline was mentioned
[09:50:28] <Reverence_> because i don't want to piss admins off or waste ttheir time
[09:50:52] <claire> http://q2scene.net/edl/index.php?op=descr&id=72261
[09:51:00] <claire> look at the comments on sol v you
[09:51:04] <Reverence_> that's sol
[09:51:05] <Reverence_> yes
[09:51:10] <Reverence_> sol and i played today
[09:51:12] <Reverence_> i'm talking about mhz
[09:51:31] <claire> http://q2scene.net/edl/index.php?op=descr&id=72265
[09:51:35] <claire> equal comments
[09:51:43] <claire> i keep telling people
[09:51:43] <Reverence_> 8th
[09:51:45] <Reverence_> MONDAY
[09:51:48] <Reverence_> past deadline
[09:51:49] <Reverence_> my  comment
[09:51:50] <Reverence_> sunday
[09:51:52] <Reverence_> after waiting
[09:51:53] <Reverence_> saturday
[09:51:53] <claire> look
[09:51:54] <Reverence_> and sunday
[09:52:01] <Reverence_> if you think this is fair
[09:52:02] <Reverence_> go ahead
[09:52:10] <Reverence_> i'm stating facts
[09:52:13] <claire> im sorry youre upset
[09:52:13] <Reverence_> and i believe i'm in the right
[09:52:15] <Reverence_> you're the admin
[09:52:17] <Reverence_> not really
[09:52:19] <Reverence_> doesn;'t bother me
[09:52:22] <Reverence_> most of div 2 i would win
[09:52:22] <Reverence_> easily
[09:52:23] <claire> i am
[09:52:24] <Reverence_> with practice
[09:52:32] <Reverence_> the tournament playoff
[09:52:33] <Reverence_> will be weak
[09:52:34] <claire> but the simple fact is
[09:52:36] <Reverence_> mhz doesn't deserve to be there
[09:52:37] <claire> there was a deadline
[09:52:41] <claire> it wasn't a secret
[09:52:45] <claire> and your matches weren't played
[09:52:45] <Reverence_> and i did things within that deadline
[09:52:48] <claire> that's on you
[09:52:54] <Reverence_> just hilarious  the fact
[09:52:55] <Reverence_> mhz did nothing
[09:52:56] <Reverence_> i was here
[09:53:00] <Reverence_> ~equal~
[09:53:04] <Reverence_> what can i do
[09:53:05] <claire> it doesn't matter if you were on irc THE DAY OF THE DEADLINE frantically trying to play them
[09:53:06] <Reverence_> when he is not here
[09:53:11] <Reverence_> i was here
[09:53:11] <Reverence_> saturday
[09:53:13] <Reverence_> check ur irc logs
[09:53:16] <claire> those matches shouldve been played back when they were scheduled
[09:53:17] <Reverence_> askling for him
[09:53:21] <Reverence_> aight
[09:53:22] <Reverence_> cool
[09:53:25] <claire> but you disappear for weeks on end
[09:53:26] <Reverence_> gl with ur tourney