Round 526 - Pamela's Counterbin

Directly gained from playing with people who were playing towards her win condition, including Burgers/Lumos, Awnyy/PINKIEPIE, and catch/xPooky

Outside of that she also played a striking amount of games with Private and fade to benefit from them being thrown for as well.

*** ANSWER:
Just starting with this sentence, the fact that you're saying that I played with them TO BENEFIT from them being thrown for as well is a biased opinion, you could have said she played with them and benefited from them being thrown for, but no, you assumed I played with them IN ORDER to benefit from it. Nigga please.***

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Game #1 - https://epicmafia.com/game/5951973

02:03  PINKIEPlE
Pamela want a meta read
02:04  PINKIEPlE
?
02:07  PINKIEPlE
honest meta
02:08  Pamela
yes tell me
02:11  PINKIEPlE
the penguin
02:22  PINKIEPlE
you wouldnt start a day with a penguin as mafia because youd be too sel concious

PINKIE self votes in a bandwagon on himself at only 3 minutes in

***ANSWER:  Why did you only add the first part of our conversation? After he said that I explained I used that as mafia in the past as well, so that is not honest meta ----------> https://epicmafia.com/game/5951888 (me using the pingu emote because it's cute and to show people im really happy which would make them TR even when im MAFiAAaaaAa) ***

 Pamela
stop SELFING RETARD
07:04  Pamela
i got none cuz i waas talking to someone on skype
07:06  Pamela
give me 2 mins
07:20  PINKIEPlE
not me
07:24  PINKIEPlE
she wasnt talking to me
07:26  PINKIEPlE
im heartbroken

To further emphasize that PINKIE is potentially playing towards Pamela's win condition. At no point did he unvote or try to get the votes off of him. He literally self voted at 3 minutes in and let himself get lynched day 1 as mafia when Pamela was town.

*** ANSWER: How does this part you just quoted prove he was playing towards my win con? What are you trying to emphasize? That he is my friend? ***

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Game #2 - https://epicmafia.com/game/5951941

pre-game catch openly admits to playing differently for wanting Pamela to win

00:47  catch
i tryharded for pam, probs not tryharding anymore

catch flipped mafia and hard bussed his partner into getting lynched day 1. After his partner was lynched he killed a templar and then on the following day he immediately self voted and essentially gave up and practically asked to be lynched.

12:49  Pamela
lol why are u selfing
12:56  santana
Just get him
13:01  catch
because i hardclaimed not temp yesterday
13:07  catch
and i have mo other reads

He did not unvote on himself and just let himself die.

***ANSWER: The game before we were mafia together and I asked him to tryhard. In this game he said ''i tryharded for pam, probs not tryharding anymore'' during PREGAME. He didn't even know if he was gonna flip town or mafia or if he was gonna be same alignment than me, he just said that he wasn't gonna try anymore because he had a headache. This doesn't prove anything, because he never played against his wincon or admitted he did.
And to be honest, I don't really know xPooky, I actually just spoke to him during this round and played some games with him, that's about it, so I don't know why he would play for my win con.***


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Game #3 - https://epicmafia.com/game/5951888

This game was full of people who flat out wanted Pamela to win and would openly say so. At no point did any of the people who have historically played to her win condition even fos her in a meaningful way. Even when they thought she was mafia they still played to help her win.

*** ANSWER:
Who did openly say they wanted me to win?
Who are those that have historically played to my win con in this game? PINKIEPIE? who else? Because if you're talking about xPooky, he was mafia with me, so he obviously wanted US mafia to win!!! xd xd xd***

20:50  PINKIEPlE
PAM URE MAFIA
20:52  PINKIEPlE
WE BOTH KNOW THAT

28:37  PINKIEPlE
PAMIE URE MAFIA
28:39  PINKIEPlE
WHOS UR PARTNER


At no point did PINKIE vote Pamela or push on her, he insisted on pushing on whoever Pamela's fos was (who he thought was town) to give her the win.

***ANSWER:
He was obviously doing this as a reaction test, he didn't actually fos me at that moment. That's part of Awnyy's play, he foses people to get reactions.
Even Miguel said this:

12:11 Miguel
about you thinking that Pamela is mafia
12:18 Miguel
Otherwise you wouldn't ask her to vote me
12:23 Miguel
and say that she's mafia


He did fos me in the end, but he wanted to hammer partner as he said
28:37  PINKIEPlE
PAMIE URE MAFIA
28:39  PINKIEPlE
WHOS UR PARTNER

When you're sure about one fos and it's a 5way one clear, you might wanna go for the 2nd partner you're not sure about and let town hammer obvious mafia. What is wrong about that? If he would have said that last day and didn't hammer me, that would have been a different story, but there is no throwing here. ***

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Game #4 - https://epicmafia.com/game/5951763

05:28  Awnyy
2 many ppl to gt to

Awnyy starts the game out referencing that he's throwing for Private and Pamela

***ANSWER: lol, if only you knew awnyy you would know he does say this all the time, he calls himself a gt alt, so yeah ok.***

At no point does any fos her and several people in the game even go out of their way to emphasize that they play, in an abstract way, towards her win condition


07:04  DonLion
DO NOT LYNCH THE RUNNER

***ANSWER: Once again, who are you taking about? Who are these several people in the game who are throwing for me? DonLion? He said this after charley said LYNCH THE RUNNER (06:57). Are you gonna say charley was throwing against me then, with that same logic? He simply replied to what charley said with the same words aka he didn't fos me so he didn't want me lynched. He NEVER said he didn't want me lynched because I was running. And WHO IS DonLion??????***



09:51  Awnyy
i would be defensive too
09:54  Awnyy
in her position

10:07  DonLion@Awnyy
wh-what's her position?
10:09  DonLion
did I miss a sex joke?
10:14  Pamela
no
10:15  Awnyy
about the running thing


***ANSWER: So what about this???????????? Yes I was being defensive because I was stressed about the run. What about it?????? This only means he didn't fos my defensive reactions, so once again, what are you trying to prove? And honestly, I'm pretty sure he was just trying to make a really bad sexual joke so whatever lol.***

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Game #5 - https://epicmafia.com/game/5951153

yachi flipped mafia and Pamela was town

yachi self voted immediately and puts almost no effort into the game. Only after numerous votes on her does she unvote and vote someone seemingly randomly. She winds up bandwagoned for a time but does not get lynched.

yachi won later on despite putting almost no effort into the game and in the post-game Pamela even comments at her

27:52  Pamela
stop winning against me

***ANSWER: Yes I said that, because have you read her other games with me? Yachi has been a tryhard rat this round against me and I lost many games against her because of that. I asked her on purpose to tryhard if she's playing with me, even if she is mafia (and i got skype logs to prove this if you want). Yachi wins games by dumbtelling sometimes, that's just WHO SHE IS lmao what do u want me to say. In this case dumbtelling was kinda optimal and made her win.
Btw if you wanna read another of her games with ME, here you go: https://epicmafia.com/game/5948933 (this time she had no choice but to tryhard to be tr'd and THAT'S WHAT SHE DID and I lost.)***

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Game #6 - https://epicmafia.com/game/5946479

08:56  Pamela
burgers is obv town

At no point during the game prior had Burgers said anything game related. The meta being used here isn't game related nor fair to other players to say the least.

He didn't out a single read and just sheeped Pamela the entire game before it vegged

***ANSWER: ? Is it my fault Burgers didn't say anything game related? Try reading some of his games and you'll see he doesn't care about em anymore and this is not because I was on that game. He also asked to be killed at 08:41 = ''Pls kill me I can't do this''. Do you think he was throwing for me while asking to be killed like that (we were BOTH town)?
If the meta being used there wasn't game related then what was it? Cheating? I tr'd him because he seemed like a bored blue and I also tr'd him when he said:

07:16  Burgers
R U DUMB'
07:24  Burgers
H E HAD HAMMER FOR A SECOND

I tr'd him because if he was mafia he wouldn't have unvoted imo. Also how did he sheep me the entire game? D1 and D2 he literally selfed. Burgers/Lumos already got a gt vio for some games he threw, he's been doing this for some weeks/months now and it's not related to my run. He wasn't trying to win the game at all and was randomly voting people, AND we were BOTH TOWN, so.....? This is not meta abuse, this isn't throwing, this is just lumos being a lovely retard so what are you trying to prove?

Btw if you wanna read his last comp game, here it is: https://epicmafia.com/game/5950687. Please use speech filter and read it yourself. Did he say anything game related? No and I wasn't on that game lol. 90% of his games are like that.
 ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ CHARLEY TAKE MY ENERGY ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ CHARLEY TAKE MY ENERGY ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ CHARLEY TAKE MY ENERGY ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ CHARLEY TAKE MY ENERGY ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ༼ ◕_____________________________________________________________-◕ ༽つ༼ つ ◕_____________________________________________________________-◕ ༽つ༼ つ ◕_____________________________________________________________-◕ ༽つ ***


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Game #7 - https://epicmafia.com/game/5946414

burgers outs a sr on pamelas partner day1 and pushes on that but town lynches pamela. As soon as burgers see's pamela is maf he goes afk day2 and doesnt push on his sr villager is lynched. 3way lylo burgers outs sr on themis (templar) and not his original sr. Then when he says he is temp he says he sr mafia from the start. He barely tried in lylo and afk'd most of the game when pamela flipped mafia. Burgers is lynched mafia wins.

***ANSWER: You can't say he went afk because I got lynched. ONCE AGAIN, lumos is always afk or trolling. He outed a fos on temp because he was afk and didn't even pay attention to the game, which is something he does ALL THE TIME. Read all his last games pls. When he realised he made a mistake, I guess he took the time to reread and retracted by saying ''oo im back, actually let me correct my statment, ive been saying to get Harrr from the start (31:48). He did try in lylo as he explained he tr'd mafia and temps because both have to hide somehow.

btw when i said im stinky and sweaty (10:53) and that em makes me sweat......... that's not true.....................***

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Game #8 - https://epicmafia.com/game/5946069
Pamela was mafia and  mafia is lynched day1 so lumos vegges n2. He was active day1 he clearly vegged in favour of pam.

***ANSWER: I wasn't being fosed there. Btw he wasn't really active he said like 1 line at 03:26, then was afk until 5:37 then went afk again until 08:43 and vegged, then came back at 13:49. Town had advantage there because 1 mafia got lynched d1, but you can't say town was gonna win that 100%, problem was probably gonna be the next lynch. Also, I really doubt Lumos read the game at all. Again, Lumos/Burgers has been trolling games and being afk lately, he also has some grs/veg reports against him.
https://epicmafia.com/report?status=closed&reporter=&reported=lumos
https://epicmafia.com/report?status=closed&reporter=&reported=burgers ***


SO the Lumos/Burgers' games are just him playing the same way he usually plays. That isn't related to my run.


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I've never cheated and this still happens so in the end not being a cheater is USELESS it seems. If you dq me/reset the round and make me lose my gold, you will face the wrath of pampam. God be with you.

As always, with affection,

Pampam.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXWFqxKU2qA