Response to New Zealand Shooting

Monfd
I watched the New Zealand shooting video.
tsarbomba
monfd, first thing i saw this morning. did you know that the far right is now trying to sell the narrative that the shooter is a "leftist"?
Monfd
It makes me dislike people like SharP^ more than I typically do, as they're part of a clear ecosystem that leads to the violence of today.
Monfd
tsarbomba: I hadn't heard the specifically, but they do that pretty much every time.
tsarbomba
because goodness knows the first thing leftists would do is fly from australia to new zealand, write a 90 page manifesto attributing radicalization to right-wing personalities, and then commit 49 counts of murder - guaranteeing a life sentence - all to own the cons
Monfd
The cognitive core of the right is simply quite incompatible with modernity.
tsarbomba
"i'm going to prison forever but haha we owned the MAGA hats!"
Monfd
Modernity, it seems to me, is largely a leftist/Enlightenment project.
tsarbomba
looks like sharpee is trying to deploy the trumpian "4d chess" angle again
tsarbomba
sad. i thought MAGA gave up on that a year ago
Monfd
The core of the Enlightenment is that there is a truth independent of human perception. However, what wast he Enlightenment enlightening us from?
Monfd
Different things, presumably, but one of them is that 'truth comes from faction/clan/religion/ethnicity'.
Monfd
Here, having the shooter be somebody on the right is damaging to the right, and so they just tell us the truth that he is on the left.
Monfd
Which is correct, from their epistemology.
Monfd
Their epistemology necessarily leads to eternal conflict between clans/factions/religions/ethnicities.
tsarbomba
that's such MAGA logic right there.
tsarbomba
"by watching a video which came out after a murder was done, you are partially responsible for that murder!"
tsarbomba
4d chess! parcheesi! UNO!
Monfd
I find it useful, for me, to watch these videos.
Monfd
One, I'm a Buddhist, and so I have substantial internal strength, calm, and calming mechanisms.
tsarbomba
i watched it because i knew MAGA would be letting the dezinformatsiya fly early and often today
tsarbomba
and by god, that's EXACTLY what fucking happened
Monfd
Two, I've adopted a 'observe reality as it is' policy for most of my lifetime, and so I don't experience a significant internal destabilization from these videos.
tsarbomba
hey, irc. did you know that you guys are all responsible for the death of JFK? after all, i'm sure you've all seen the zapruder film.
Monfd
I usually experience a reality small increase in suffering, but I learn more about how dangerous modern weapons are in the hands of committed individuals.
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Monfd
The only reason all of us aren't going to be killed today is largely because no committed individual with guns wants to kill us.
Monfd
If they did, we'd probably die.
tsarbomba
MAGA grows closer and closer to that "commitment" each day
tsarbomba
it won't be long before redcaps are out shooting up homes and businesses they perceive as "liberal"
Monfd
Also, my worldview is so expansive in terms of the arc of history, inclusion of evolution, computation, game theoric models of empathy, etc. that I am not driven towards bad actions upon consuming this content.
tsarbomba
en masse
Monfd
I suspect some percentage of our human species is.
Monfd
tsarbomba: It's interesting to note how little of a solution our societies have to this problem.
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tsarbomba
because it makes a nice little rehash of the chicken/egg debate. "which came first, the guns or the gun violence?"
Monfd
Our current solution is to pretend that the Trump cult isn't on a reasonably high-collision course with our lives and our ideals and wait until there are acts of violence.
tsarbomba
is it the extremisms that leads to gun abuse or is it the guns that enable and promote the extremism
tsarbomba
-s
tsarbomba
sharpee seems triggered again. which is disappointing because he went idle for a few hours
Monfd
tsarbomba: Let us not allow NRA disinformation to pollute our dialogue.
tsarbomba
but then he returned and was immediately triggered within minutes
tsarbomba
monfd, yeah we had a little sidebar about NRA earlier. i'm kind of tired of even giving them the thought energy
tsarbomba
maxsharp, how long before you end up in prison? ballpark
Monfd
The NRA is an enemy of the American republic.
Monfd
And, concordantly, an enemy of modernity.
Monfd
The NRA as it has been operating since at least 2012*
Monfd
I'm not ready to say the NRA pre-2012 was an enemy of the republic.
tsarbomba
oh, i forgot. sharpee the alleged 'zionist jew' has been delighting in the death of 49 muslims today at the hands of white supremacist terrorists who would rather see him (a jew) dead in a ditch than within 500 feet and breathing.
tsarbomba
so in case you're wondering if peace between israel and the muslim nations is possible? nope. the zionists won't let it happen.
tsarbomba
09:50 < SharP^> Enemy of my enemy is my friend
tsarbomba
^sharpee's logic for supporting a white supremacist terror attack
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Monfd
I was surprised Trump deleted his tweet to his Breitbart attack on the republic interview about the violence of his supporters.
Monfd
Recall, here is what a just, powerful republic would have done after his Breitbart interview:
tsarbomba
it went viral pretty quickly, then some breitbart clown tacked on his own racist sentiments
tsarbomba
presumably dan scavino saw it and wanted nothing to do with the firestorm
tsarbomba
so delete delete delete it was
Monfd
The senior members of both House of Congress should have held a joint press conference in which they stated they'd be impeaching and removing from office Donald J. Trump as soon as possible.
Monfd
The Congress would have then held a rapid vote in the House, which could probably have been organized in 6-12 hours.
tsarbomba
the senate is trump's personal PR squad
Monfd
Then, the Senate would received the Articles of Impeachment, citing only his Breitbart article, and then voted to remove him from office 6-12 hours.
Monfd
It's not clear to me why this process couldn't have been done this fast, given him threatening the American people with violence from the military.
Monfd
All of us live in a world where we don't get to live in such a strong, noble republic.
Monfd
And so, the least I can do, is write the above to remind you that such governance is possible.
tsarbomba
let's just put it this way: if obama had told huffpo in an interview that he had his own bikers and other toughs that he was going to sic on republicans, they would skip impeachment and go straight to lynching
tsarbomba
-had
tsarbomba
if he threatened to send the MILITARY after them? fuck lynching. they'd burn the entire white houe down with his family inside.
tsarbomba
trump did both and MAGA just shrugged
Monfd
As I argued from history and for justice yesterday, non-governmental, violent responses are common to that type of rhetoric, yes.
tsarbomba
because MAGA is a terrorist org.
Monfd
The data shows that the right is much quicker to political violence, at least in the USA, at least in the last few decades.
Monfd
Recall last year 100% of political extremists deaths were from the right.
Monfd
In the USA
Monfd
I am reminded of Sandy Hook right now
Monfd
I recall Obama musing, I think some months later, how our society allowed ~30 children to be murdered at their school and did nothing
tsarbomba
https://twitter.com/arlenparsa/status/1106641034803666944
Monfd
I think he implied how that did not indicate a very noble society
tsarbomba
lol
tsarbomba
breitbart literally supports pedophilia
Monfd
Which we do not live in
Monfd
Our society is not noble, as it allows children to be murdered without seeking to prevent such future acts
Monfd
And, sitting here today, reflecting on what this shooting event means, I realize that our societies are not very noble
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tsarbomba
oh boy
tsarbomba
the white supremacist returns
Monfd
And we are likely to not fundamentally address the problems that lead to today's event
tsarbomba
been partying all day over the NZ terror attacks, i take it?
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Monfd
https://youtu.be/T82aYJsDhqA?t=1982

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tsarbomba
and i leave the MAGA chuds with one more piece of terrible, horrible, no good, very bad news for der trumpenfuhrer: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-pay-5-6-million-141749851.html
tsarbomba
goodnight, dear MAGA chuds. stay mad. shit's only going to get worse for the alt-right now that trump's radicalization has gone international. enjoy!
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