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22:42	Scantron	>tfw no gf
22:45	Djoric	> tfw mack is passive-aggresive bitching about everything again and please can someone more level headed than me call her out on it
22:45	Djoric	because I am this fucking close
22:45	Djoric	to making several awful descisions
22:45	Scantron	we're talking about reddit?
22:45	Djoric	no
22:46	Scantron	oh
22:46	Scantron	where?
22:46	Djoric	http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-1031636/scp-foundation-site-redesign#post-2120063
22:46	Djoric	this comment chain
22:48	Vince	it almost feels like she's rubbing salt in on walking on us
22:48	Scantron	> Every time I see a new site design proposal that serves only to attempt to splash paint over a rotting corpse while the community is still saddled with an aging, decrepit platform, I cry a little on the inside.
22:48	Scantron	didn't she do exactly this
22:48	Vince	she did exactly that.
22:48	Djoric	Yeah, I wonder what happened to all our plans to move
22:48	Djoric	OH WAIT
22:48	CryogenChaos	That she did
22:48	CryogenChaos	I consider myself a reasonable man
22:48	CryogenChaos	I'm sure you all would agree for the most part
22:48	CryogenChaos	But I am /fucking/ sick of her
22:49	CryogenChaos	I am sick of the god damn passive aggressive bullshit
22:49	weizhong	I dunno
22:49	Vince	Djoric: long story short, lots of fighting and disagreements and stuff that I don't know if I'm allowed to go into detail on
22:49	weizhong	In this particular thread
22:49	Scantron	i would probably be sick of her if i spent any time in the forums too
22:49	weizhong	It's really not that bad
22:49	weizhong	compared to a lot of the other shit she's done
22:49	Djoric	weizhong: and she's doing that on purpose
22:49	weizhong	mmh
22:49	Djoric	she is fucking baiting us
22:49	Djoric	and lemme tell you, it is fucking working
22:54	Trar	isn't the scp site pretty good already
22:54	Trar	i mean i remember the design before the current one
22:55	Trar	if anything it's the wanderer's library that needs a redesign and even then i'm a bit partial to how it is now
22:55	CryogenChaos	There are bits and pieces here and there that could be better, but honestly I like the site
22:55	Djoric	less design, more functionality
22:55	weizhong	^
22:55	CryogenChaos	^
22:55	Vince	the design, which Ael (with some input from a couple other design-minded people including myself) created is fine.
22:55	Djoric	but overall, shit works
22:56	weizhong	I'd kinda prefer if we weren't wikidot based
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22:56	Vince	Djoric: impossible without migration
22:56	Vince	we've basically stretched wikidot to its limits
22:56	Djoric	I know
22:57		--- Rogotowork is back
22:57		*** Rogotowork is now known as Roget
22:57	Vince	and migration is impossible because very few people trust anyone, and it will inevitably involve someone being appointed treasurer for the site, which is a risky prospect at best
22:58	Vince	also the one person who is wholly capable of helping us migrate is better satiated by taking potshots at our struggles because we wouldn't bend over for her.
23:00	Scantron	somewhere down the line, there'll be another programmer with the relevant experience and available time who's willing to help us create a new site. we can only hope that this happens before wikidot can't (or refuses to) handle the site
23:00	Djoric	yes
23:00	Djoric	but until that point
23:00	Scantron	i guess what i'm saying is that we're probably fine in the long term
23:00	Djoric	can someone /please/ call her out
23:00	Scantron	why give her the satisfaction?
23:01	weizhong	I mean, from her perspective, people treated her poorly
23:01	weizhong	Which isn't wholly untrue
23:01	Djoric	for the benefit of not having her toxicity
23:01	CryogenChaos	My main problem with her is that right now she's treating the fact that we're still on Wikidot like it is /entirely/ our fault, when there's a whole web of issues behind the lack of movement
23:01	weizhong	but she also treated the other people like shit too
23:01	CryogenChaos	Like we're staying to spite her or something
23:02	Roget	Djoric: oh my god
23:02	Scantron	calling her out isn't gonna do that, that requires her to actually change (god knows we tried to get her to, she has to /want/ to) or for her to get b&
23:02	Roget	things have been so much better without echo and tox and aelanna and that whole fucking gang
23:02	Djoric	Scantron: then let's fucking ban her already
23:02	Roget	do you know how long it's been since I had to dread coming on the site because one of them lost their cool
23:02	Scantron	a call-out is likely to be met in kind and give her more opportunities to talk
23:02	Djoric	how toxic does she need to fucking be?
23:03	Djoric	Roget: I don't doubt things have improved
23:03	Trar	i'm leaning more towards djoric here, but if nobody's tried explaining the reasons behind the fact the site's still on wikidot yet, do that too
23:03	Scantron	fuck if i know, my inactivity has lost me the sway to make this kind of thing happen + i don't have the mental energy for anything resembling a push for that
23:04	Roget	weizhong: that's basically why it took so long for the inevitable to happen
23:04	weizhong	mmh
23:04	Roget	People like Yoric had treated her like dogshit
23:04	Roget	and then when she got some power to improve things for everyone, she had so much baggage and resentment that it was inevitable to end in tragedy
23:04	Roget	and it is a tragedy
23:04	Roget	she is amazingly good at what she does
23:04	weizhong	And let's be honest, you and Djoric had your various fights with her too that were bad on both sides
23:05	Djoric	indeed
23:05	Djoric	granted
23:05	weizhong	(not that she'd admit she was ever bad, but)
23:05	Vince	and they weren't the only people on the site that she got into it with
23:05	weizhong	Yeah
23:05	Djoric	yoric was just shit normally
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23:10	Roget	But yeah, I am also annoyed by the passive-aggressive swipes she makes at staff
23:12	Roget	Also I found an SCP idea I came up with while stoned
23:13	weizhong	You mean all of them
23:13	Roget	"Comatose guy who can't move except when a stringed instrument is nearby. He plays a tune which is anomalously impossible to see except to describe it as pleasant. It doesn't seem to do anything else, and we've had it for 400 years. No long term effects have been noted."
23:14	Jabonicus	>He plays a tune which is anomalously impossible to see
23:14	Jabonicus	That seems
23:14	Jabonicus	normal
23:14	Roget	that's how I wrote it when high
23:14	Roget	I meant that it was impossible to transcribe or recreate
23:14	Vince	also I'm pissed about how she basically implied in her last post that she's the only person worthwhile who can fix the site or migrate us off.
23:14		Vince a bit late
23:05	Djoric	I got over it
23:05	weizhong	Lot more than just that
23:05	Roget	weizhong: honestly I didn't do shit to her until she decided to dump the blame for her entire first site ragequit on me
23:05	Djoric	granted, he was gone by the time I really interacted with the community the way I do now
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23:06	Djoric	but from what I did interact with him, he was just an ass
23:06	Djoric	garden variety
23:06	Djoric	nothing too special
23:07	Roget	Yoric's chilled out since his heyday
23:07	Scantron	apparently he harassed her pretty badly, from what i've gathered
23:07	Trar	growing ass in the garden
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23:07	Djoric	One of the opening warnings I found while joining was that Bright and Yoric were the resident assholes
23:07	Djoric	so I ignored them
23:07	Djoric	I still ignore Bright