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judgements for wolf

May 31st, 2020
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  1. #Kirbin vs Ame
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  3. * Kirbin is OOT
  4.  
  5. ######Ame wins
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  7. #Embrace vs Ralton
  8.  
  9. *Embrace*
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  11. * "Can transform instantly" no citation
  12. * "Can make mountains of ice to trap" no real citation
  13. * "Casually reduce temperatures to -89c" again no real citation
  14. * "Completely freeze with sustained contact" no timeframe provided
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  16. * 'Gandharva's striking is good, being able to break a Closed Space of Sierra with a headbutt, and a lower ranked magician of Brilith could maintain a closed space that withstood mountain busting blasts' bruh
  17. * Projectiles capable of breaking large amounts of geography
  18. * le fake
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  20. I just want to open a kubera scan and come away knowing more instead of less about it
  21.  
  22. *Ralton*
  23.  
  24. * SuperDoom exists and you die
  25. * Heat
  26. * Toxic
  27. * Heat vision exists and they die
  28. * Can fly fast and bust mountains, "Surface Area exists btw and your durability is trash"
  29. * "The transformation takes an unquantified time frame." yea
  30. * in character thing I won't judge, but this seems "not invalid" at absolute worst
  31. * Freezing sucks
  32. * The striking feat sucks
  33. * Projectiles suck
  34. * Superdoom is stronger shut up
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  36. This is generally a very tight response, it opens with the most overwhelmingly relevant things, my only complaint is that I think the formatting is too busy with quotes etc
  37.  
  38. *Embrace*
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  40. This response is ass. It reads like it barely actually addresses most of the major points put forth and just repeats **what it said before** but **bolded** like a **comic character** talking, it overwhelmingly relies on the evidence that a single panel means literally 0.000000000... seconds and not "vague time", "I challenge you to find an example of non-instant Kubera transformation." is an awful counter that reads like it's only being said because Ralton said something similar, but ralton literally just had a panel of "SuperDoom is stronger", in addition becoming Doomsday being an amp is more obvious than a transformation taking again literally no time, the claims of the transformation speed not being tenable vs the claim of superdoom being stronger aren't really comparable.
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  42. If we're going to call something fake, it's assuming something takes place in literally no time because it happened offscreen. The response does not provide anything but extremely tangential points for actual surviving essentially every piece of offense Superdoom passively emits much less offense that can be enacted in the timeframe of abilities being used.
  43.  
  44. I don't need to judge Ralton's next response. Superdoom exists and his opponent dies instantly, causing **Ralton** to win.
  45.  
  46. ######RALTON WINS
  47.  
  48. #Josh vs FJ
  49.  
  50. Bambina isn't OOT here, he jumps fast but doesn't hit more/hit faster/avoid more punches in a meaningful sense. However tier Hulk is not capable of jumping into space, making josh a smelly idiot
  51.  
  52.  
  53. *FJ*
  54.  
  55. * Speedfreek fast, Bambina has no ranged attacks so he can't stop this out of melee range, he cuts people more durable than Bambina
  56.  
  57. *Josh*
  58.  
  59. * Bambina kills speedfreek by breathing, bambina moving kills speedfreek
  60. * Bambina has range
  61. * Hit big
  62. * Bambina can jump really fast so Speedfreek won't hit him
  63. * 'and oh by the way is also in space." what
  64. * Speedfreek's claws aren't as provably sharp and by extension as potent as Wolverine
  65. * Skill bullshit
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  67. Basically everything continued from here is in the context of these claims, with the additional significant factor of FJ arguing IC actions.
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  69. * It is questionable if Speedfreek has been strictly proven to display piercing as good as Wolverine due to lacking specific "sharpness feats", however I think Speedfreek piercing Bambina is a relatively tenable position
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  71. Bambina has characterization that pretty consistently seems to be "he wants to play", so I think the condition of Bambina just fucking around is pretty valid, even "Bambina opens by fighting" was "playing." The actual problem with this as a win condition is that how Bambina plays vs fight is irrelevant to Speedfreek's durability, Bambina and Speedfreek both have to react to move and if Bambina does like any one of a few passive things like "sniffles" Speedfreek is literally redmisted, making **Josh** win.
  72.  
  73. ######JOSH WINS
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  75. #Verlux vs Crim
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  77. I've been going back and forth on how detailed I want to make this judgement, eventually I decided to try and share my thoughts on the most relevant factors and remain open for questions
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  79. I don't buy the "monochrome resistance" scan in response 1, and so little time being spent on Tian's trump card and the absolutely most relevant part of his being there seems like a misstep. Naruto organs being weak is something that is directly supported, blood spear is pretty much defaulted to a land on a slower opponent, Tian kills Naruto. I can't understand weebshit well enough to address the speed amp claims meaningfully on my own.
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  81. The reason I didn't go more in depth is that I feel while a lot of the claims present are not actually irrelevant to the match for the purpose of either person being able to win, they don't matter while other factors are true. I think the spear hits and I think the spear kills so I think **Verlux wins.**
  82.  
  83. ######VERLUX WINS
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