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  1. March 26, 2016
  2. Kiwikiller67 - 03/26/2016
  3. there is now a consistent setup using adam's method. If you kick after leaving t&s down left and turn to have your back to the torch and jump aerial, you'll clip every time. It's at the end of this highlight. http://www.twitch.tv/kiwikiller67/v/56667998
  4. Twitch
  5. Kiwikiller67
  6.  
  7. EmoArbiter - 03/26/2016
  8. Fucking yes
  9. xCrowStorm - 03/26/2016
  10. Thanks Kiwi. You make it look so smooth. 😃
  11. Kiwikiller67 - 03/26/2016
  12. np. hope it helps everyone with the time I tried to take based off what adam said
  13. markusman64ds 🐵 - 03/26/2016
  14. How hard is the down left angle to hit on VC?
  15. like on a pro controller
  16. Kiwikiller67 - 03/26/2016
  17. it's right in the groove on my n64 controller
  18. I havent tried it with a pro controller
  19. March 29, 2016
  20. markusman64ds 🐵 - 03/29/2016
  21. If you kick and jump to the left of the pool at the start of castle you can hit the oob void
  22. March 30, 2016
  23. Adam Whitmore - 03/30/2016
  24. is there a documentation for gaining control in main menu map cause i can't find it
  25. Isotarge - 03/30/2016
  26. If you're talking about what I was playing with on stream it's fairly simple, open BizHawk + DK64 + ScriptHawk -> Run Game.gainControl() in the lua console
  27. Adam Whitmore - 03/30/2016
  28. oh so it wasn't a thing on console yet right?
  29. Isotarge - 03/30/2016
  30. As far as I know it's not possible without directly editing memory
  31. So there's a mysterious second GB in Caves beetle race at 5333.333, 5507.333, 5333.333
  32. at that xz the floor is -1114.5, the same floor Y as the finish line(edited)
  33. hitokage220 - 03/30/2016
  34. wow
  35. Isotarge - 03/30/2016
  36. walking around that spot I got upwarped to y=999999
  37. this video game is bad
  38. theballaam96 - 03/30/2016
  39. What in the what?
  40. Isotarge - 03/30/2016
  41. hm I guess I walked under lava
  42. Isotarge - 03/30/2016
  43. It's dupeable
  44. 2dos - 03/30/2016
  45. im assuming this GB has similar properties to the one in fungi barn?
  46. if it can be duped + picked up by anyone
  47. markusman64ds 🐵 - 03/30/2016
  48. I would guess it's from a beta beetle race maybe?
  49. which would explain why it is dupable since the flag would have been deleted
  50. perhaps accidentally
  51. theballaam96 - 03/30/2016
  52. Can it be accessed RTA?
  53. Isotarge - 03/30/2016
  54. Scratch that we're like 400y short at the start line
  55. (I suck at reading with this little sleep)
  56. markusman64ds 🐵 - 03/30/2016
  57. sCoffee
  58. Isotarge - 03/30/2016
  59. mmh
  60. theballaam96 - 03/30/2016
  61. So it's currently inaccessible RTA?
  62. Isotarge - 03/30/2016
  63. yep
  64. theballaam96 - 03/30/2016
  65. Dang 😦
  66. markusman64ds 🐵 - 03/30/2016
  67. L to Levitate though
  68. Isotarge - 03/30/2016
  69. I actually found it using Z to zip
  70. + Grab Objects.lua
  71. markusman64ds 🐵 - 03/30/2016
  72. makes me wonder what other mystery GBs there are
  73. when is position storage through loading zones
  74. theballaam96 - 03/30/2016
  75. Well surely this pulls into question the Aztec Beetle Race?
  76. Isotarge - 03/30/2016
  77. No bueno
  78. theballaam96 - 03/30/2016
  79. 😦
  80. markusman64ds 🐵 - 03/30/2016
  81. Good place to look imo would be castle
  82. because as i've theorized it's a comparatively rushed level
  83. balloons in cages, reusing factory maps, etc
  84. castle car race might be fun to look in for factory remnants maybe
  85. theballaam96 - 03/30/2016
  86. Some of it maybe
  87. Castle's first map is 88th
  88. Out of 216
  89. Last non-BBlast map is 184th
  90. Although that's probably irrelevant in the most part
  91. markusman64ds 🐵 - 03/30/2016
  92. how far down is dungeon and car race?
  93. out of how many?
  94. theballaam96 - 03/30/2016
  95. Oh sorry, last thing non-BBlast-non-KutOut is 186th
  96. Which is the car race
  97. Dungeon is 164th
  98. markusman64ds 🐵 - 03/30/2016
  99. how many maps are in the game?
  100. theballaam96 - 03/30/2016
  101. 216
  102. Here's the full list in case you wanted to do investigations: http://dk64.wikia.com/wiki/Cheat_Codes#Warp
  103. Donkey Kong 64 Wiki
  104. Cheat Codes
  105. The cheat codes on this page are compatible with Donkey Kong 64 (U) on Project64. They may help you test glitch theories. You don't need to copy and paste the codes into Project64. Here is how to set up all codes at once:
  106. And if you want to convert from the hex codes to decimal values - http://www.binaryhexconverter.com/hex-to-decimal-converter
  107. Hexadecimal to decimal converter helps you to calculate decimal value from a hex number up to 16 characters length, and hex to dec conversion table.
  108. theballaam96 - 03/30/2016
  109. If we could find a way to get OoB here without speed hacks and if we could find a way to go up 4200 units, We've got the weird Caves Beetle GB. It seems like our biggest issue is the height rather than the XZ
  110.  
  111. theballaam96 - 03/30/2016
  112. Castle Car Race, This GB is dupable too
  113.  
  114. Tiffanyjane - 03/30/2016
  115. after regular collection of the castle car race GB, can you go back and dupe it?
  116. theballaam96 - 03/30/2016
  117. I can check now
  118. Yes
  119. I should also note it can also be grabbed as DK (And presumably Diddy, Lanky and Chunky)
  120. GloriousLiar - 03/30/2016
  121. wait wait wait
  122. can't you get up to that height with a boulder boost as chunky
  123. Tiffanyjane - 03/30/2016
  124. yeah
  125. GloriousLiar - 03/30/2016
  126. so couldn't you skip the car race by falling onto it?
  127. Tiffanyjane - 03/30/2016
  128. getting oob is not easy
  129. idk about the nav
  130. GloriousLiar - 03/30/2016
  131. theoretically though
  132. Tiffanyjane - 03/30/2016
  133. but yeah theoretically sure
  134. GloriousLiar - 03/30/2016
  135. ok im gonna test this
  136. Tiffanyjane - 03/30/2016
  137. as far as 101% goes, the issue is Tiny bananas
  138. there are 30 in ballroom (this counts as ballroom)(edited)
  139. for TAS/LOTAD though this would be neat
  140. theballaam96 - 03/30/2016
  141. I'm checking other races whilst I'm at it
  142. Seems like there's nothing for the Rabbit unless the GB spawns after you've done the first race for some reason
  143. markusman64ds 🐵 - 03/30/2016
  144. rabbit race wouldn't make quite as much sense because it's a part of the main level area
  145. considering most (all?) dupable GBs are in sub-areas
  146. theballaam96 - 03/30/2016
  147. Unforunately L to Levitate doesn't seem to work in Factory Car Race, and the camera is relatively fixed, so I don't know whether we can check whether the GB is dupable (for Factory Car Race)(edited)
  148. Tiffanyjane - 03/30/2016
  149. can you L to levitate during damage in Factory Car Race?
  150. it lifts you off the rails, maybe there's just a bind to Y on rails
  151. theballaam96 - 03/30/2016
  152. Good idea, lemme see
  153. Isotarge - 03/30/2016
  154. Try Game.gainControl() a couple times in the lua console when L to levitate doesn't work
  155. I say a couple times because it toggles visibility instead of forcing it due to a refactor
  156. it's on my TODO list tho
  157. theballaam96 - 03/30/2016
  158. LuaInterface.LuaScriptException: .\games\dk64.lua:1211: attempt to call global 'visify' (a nil value)
  159.  
  160. LuaInterface.LuaScriptException: .\games\dk64.lua:1211: attempt to call global 'visify' (a nil value)
  161. Isotarge - 03/30/2016
  162. Hit sync in your git client
  163. That bug was fixed a couple days ago
  164. theballaam96 - 03/30/2016
  165. Where's sync?
  166. Isotarge - 03/30/2016
  167. Are you using github for windows?
  168. theballaam96 - 03/30/2016
  169. No
  170. Isotarge - 03/30/2016
  171. Oh you just downloaded a zip?
  172. theballaam96 - 03/30/2016
  173. Hito gave me the flags lua's along with all the stuff you need to find flags (aside from BizHawk)
  174. I'll just download it off your Github
  175. Isotarge - 03/30/2016
  176. alright np
  177. theballaam96 - 03/30/2016
  178. I can L to Levitate, but the camera is fixed still (I did do gainControl() twice). But there doesn't seem to be a GB at the moment
  179. Isotarge - 03/30/2016
  180. Thanks for testing
  181. theballaam96 - 03/30/2016
  182. No problem
  183. GloriousLiar - 03/30/2016
  184. i did it
  185. i got the gb without cheats
  186. making video
  187. theballaam96 - 03/30/2016
  188. PogChamp
  189. GloriousLiar - 03/30/2016
  190. @RingRush there's another dance skippable gb 😄
  191. you know the way i got the gb might be possible with tiny
  192. gonna test that before i upload this vid
  193. theballaam96 - 03/30/2016
  194. You didn't get it with Boulder + TNT OoB?
  195. GloriousLiar - 03/30/2016
  196. i did
  197. kinda
  198. theballaam96 - 03/30/2016
  199. Ok, colour me intrigued then
  200. GloriousLiar - 03/30/2016
  201. damnit scripthawk desynced the video
  202. Isotarge - 03/30/2016
  203. : ^ )
  204. DigitalVortex - 03/30/2016
  205. :^)
  206. GloriousLiar - 03/30/2016
  207. ok i got it on video
  208. markusman64ds 🐵 - 03/30/2016
  209. with tiny?
  210. GloriousLiar - 03/30/2016
  211. no with chunky
  212. it uses a stuck launch off the hallway with the gb
  213. and if i can get to the position via an explosive
  214. no boulder necessary
  215. theballaam96 - 03/30/2016
  216. Ok..
  217. GloriousLiar - 03/30/2016
  218. i'll upload what i already have but i'm still trying with tiny
  219. GloriousLiar - 03/30/2016
  220. when it's done processing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ll9SJQ9igs
  221. YouTube
  222. GloriousLiar
  223. Castle Car Race Skip (Chunky)
  224.  
  225.  
  226. markusman64ds 🐵 - 03/30/2016
  227. the end almost looks like seal race skip
  228. theballaam96 - 03/30/2016
  229. Nice!
  230. How RTA run viable do you think it is?
  231. GloriousLiar - 03/30/2016
  232. this isn't
  233. if i can get it with tiny maybe
  234. theballaam96 - 03/30/2016
  235. Oh yeah, of course
  236. GloriousLiar - 03/30/2016
  237. the explosive in the hallway doesn't give very much height
  238. 2dos - 03/30/2016
  239. NICE glorious
  240. it looks like you only get 1 shot at it tho, which means youre not doing this RTA
  241. markusman64ds 🐵 - 03/30/2016
  242. individual gb strat maybe?
  243. GloriousLiar - 03/30/2016
  244. if you can get out of bounds with tiny there are a million places you can stuck-launch
  245. so height gain isn't a problem
  246. but it's hard to get OoB
  247. Kiwikiller67 - 03/30/2016
  248. nice glorious
  249. theballaam96 - 03/30/2016
  250. Yeah, for DK64, this is a remarkably well made area
  251. GloriousLiar - 03/30/2016
  252. i wouldn't say remarkably well made
  253. has a lot of potential for breaking
  254. theballaam96 - 03/30/2016
  255. True
  256. But it doesn't help that the car is slow
  257. markusman64ds 🐵 - 03/30/2016
  258. I wonder maybe
  259. if you tap A like in DKR
  260. would you go faster
  261. or do you accelerate with A
  262. been a while
  263. Znernicus - 03/30/2016
  264. you accelerate with Z
  265. also I thought this GB wasn't grabbable... we tried something a while ago to get it as tiny
  266. with skew and getting control out of the car
  267. GloriousLiar - 03/30/2016
  268. well i didn't use any cheats
  269. Znernicus - 03/30/2016
  270. maybe it has to do with being the car for some reason
  271. I'm fairly sure that we tried getting Tiny to go oob and grab the GB with a backflip... and I guess it's possible we just didn't quite touch it or something, but I thought someone tested to see if it was possible to grab and it wasn't
  272. if you are familiar with the shockwave to leave the car glitch
  273. maybe we should try that other method with Tiny again and double check to see if we can collect the GB
  274. theballaam96 - 03/30/2016
  275. Isn't that like the one used in the LOTAD for Beaver Bother?
  276. You might have to do the glitch. I tried Game.gainControl() [Twice] near the GB, and it was the Car which picked up the GB, not Tiny. But I'm not sure whether this is just to do with the gainControl() rather than gaining control in general
  277. March 31, 2016
  278. GloriousLiar - 03/31/2016
  279. it's just like with the boat
  280. the boat is your hitbox and what you control
  281. or maybe not your hitbox
  282. but the player is considered to be the vehicle
  283. and not the kong
  284. RingRush - 03/31/2016
  285. yeah you definitely can't touch it out of vehicle, we tested that before
  286. GloriousLiar - 03/31/2016
  287. the gb is always present in the car race
  288. factory car race
  289. can you gain control in there?
  290. pause cancel maybe?
  291. markusman64ds 🐵 - 03/31/2016
  292. that could be interesting
  293. markusman64ds 🐵 - 03/31/2016
  294. iirc from testing if you can't get the GB at the end of the race from being a different kong you just get stuck in the car and don't get kicked out
  295. so maybe pause cancel would let you move then?
  296. Isotarge - 03/31/2016
  297. Hm I zipped to it but I couldn't collect it
  298. Might only be active once you lose the race or something
  299. GloriousLiar - 03/31/2016
  300. If you touch K Rool in the right spot you can get an invisible ceiling https://www.twitch.tv/gloriousliar/v/57715469
  301. Twitch
  302. GloriousLiar
  303.  
  304. Tiffanyjane - 03/31/2016
  305. Diddy's Bonus Barrel atop the Giant Mushroom can be done moveless by using an orange assisted Long Jump up the slippery slope, followed by a Moonkick into the barrel; the GB falls down and Diddy can make it up using the same orange assisted Long Jump to collect the GB after.
  306. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9QeT4dABKU(edited)
  307. YouTube
  308. TJ Blakely
  309. Diddy Giant Mushroom Bonus
  310.  
  311.  
  312. Isotarge - 03/31/2016
  313. No oob yet but it's a start https://www.twitch.tv/isotarge/v/57758769
  314. Twitch
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