Edwardo - Today at 2:11 PM
@here Really only a message for melee. For aggra tonight, make sure to move out to the left or right of the melee group if you get the wake of flames debuff as it makes it less risky for all the other melee (this also goes for melee healers)
Orcgunz aka Yzany - Today at 5:46 PM
thats not really a big issue tho, i find it easier to put it in middle of melee and just run from it
Alex(Darkpunkk) - Today at 5:49 PM
It's the case of "Should one move or everyone else"  :smiley:
Edwardo - Today at 5:50 PM
@Alex(Darkpunkk)  exactly. Also, if someone does get tagged before the transition starts, they will take way more damage and are likely to die. Its an easy fix to help us
Orcgunz aka Yzany - Today at 5:52 PM
fat paladins are to slow to move so i dont even bother, cast is going off even before im fully out of melee. anyway and then i need to move back to avoid it myself so. at this point in the raid ppl should be able to move them self tbh
Lsnar(Rzeznik) - Today at 5:54 PM
idd, not an issue at all
mever was
never*
Qbie - Today at 5:54 PM
It is an issue
you have  to move anyways
just move the fuck out so noone else has to
Lsnar(Rzeznik) - Today at 5:55 PM
if someone has problem to avoid it then the issue is somwhere else
Qbie - Today at 5:55 PM
it's so stupid that everyone has to move, because it catches me in whirling or crackling every time so I have to interrupt my casts
which is useless since y'all can just move tf out
Edwardo - Today at 5:56 PM
You can move and attack, it makes it easier for everyone if you get out when you have the debuf
Lsnar(Rzeznik) - Today at 5:56 PM
well, u can avoid this easily by staying between the waves
Orcgunz aka Yzany - Today at 5:56 PM
with the movment of a monk its no problem, try the movment of a slow ass paladin with 45 sec cd
Qbie - Today at 5:56 PM
or I can not give 2 shits because whoever had it moved out
I saw warriors move out
just running
im not using my mobility when moving out
bc then I'm spending globals doing that instead of dmg
Lsnar(Rzeznik) - Today at 5:57 PM
it's the easies mechanic in the whole dungeon tbh :smiley:
Qbie - Today at 5:57 PM
yeah, its literally just press d for 2 secs and you're clear :)))))
Lsnar(Rzeznik) - Today at 5:58 PM
yeah :smiley:
Alex(Darkpunkk) - Today at 5:58 PM
Guys, how about you try to, you know...have an constructive conversation instead of arguing? :stuck_out_tongue:
2 camps - I wont move cause Im fat and ones which dps actually suffer if needed to move
Orcgunz aka Yzany - Today at 5:58 PM
dark, i did try it, it just fucks up for my self and i get hit insteed
Alex(Darkpunkk) - Today at 5:59 PM
All the videos I saw, ppl with debuff just move, atleast try too.
Orcgunz aka Yzany - Today at 5:59 PM
i just litterally watched the video above here and noone is moveing :smiley:
Alex(Darkpunkk) - Today at 5:59 PM
Stand on edge of melee grp if you feel you wont make it
Lsnar(Rzeznik) - Today at 6:00 PM
it would be a case if we are 940 ilvl
Qbie - Today at 6:00 PM
its pointless dmg
Lsnar(Rzeznik) - Today at 6:00 PM
maybe*
Qbie - Today at 6:00 PM
if people get clipped
970 or not mana is a thing for healers on a fight like this
Alex(Darkpunkk) - Today at 6:01 PM
Its a 12s dot....
damage which can be avoided if dealth with properly
Edwardo - Today at 6:01 PM
650k every 2 seconds for 12 seconds
how long is the targetting debuff?
Alex(Darkpunkk) - Today at 6:02 PM
Its not like melee has to worry about anything else on that fight....
Qbie - Today at 6:02 PM
2-2,5 secs from you get it I think
Alex(Darkpunkk) - Today at 6:02 PM
just do 1 job. move to ya right when needed, jeez xD
Edwardo - Today at 6:02 PM
right, even if youre fat, just start moving
Orcgunz aka Yzany - Today at 6:03 PM
well, might start worrying about the real issues of the fight, boss moveing around to much on tecniqe, Ranged fucking each others over, on 2:d phase ranged put shit on melee so we cant dps etc
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Lsnar(Rzeznik) - Today at 6:04 PM
^
Qbie - Today at 6:04 PM
so thats tanks and ranged stuff
Lsnar(Rzeznik) - Today at 6:04 PM
we are going to start progressing the 1st phase again
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u'll see
Qbie - Today at 6:04 PM
this is one thing melee have to get better at
ranged and tanks deal with the other stuff
while we deal w this
Lsnar(Rzeznik) - Today at 6:05 PM
anyway im off for now
Alex(Darkpunkk) - Today at 6:06 PM
I dont understand the logic behind "It doesnt impact me that much, so fuck it, fuck you and everyone else" and "Let me just redirect conversations attention to other role sections" Wtf Yzany :smile: :smile: :smile:
Edwardo - Today at 6:07 PM
To be honest its not a discussion. we have problems that we will need to fix and this is one of them, so if you could just try doing what's asked that would be great :p
Alex(Darkpunkk) - Today at 6:08 PM
Its not, the people who are actually working on tactic have noticed that it is an issue and theres a small, easy fix. So we ask you to just do it. Thats literelly one thing! Tanks and ranged is a seperat discussion and are being worked on how can be done better.