Session Start: Fri Jun 26 22:24:45 2015
Session Ident: #RegionAeneas
03[22:24] * Now talking in #RegionAeneas
03[22:24] * Topic is 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGi6Q1pNbS0'
03[22:24] * Set by Lanos!~Lanos@tx-184-5-87-119.dhcp.embarqhsd.net on Fri Jun 26 02:30:22 2015
[22:24] <@Aurinsula> Liu Benyuan. 刘本元.
[22:24] <Guillaume> ni hao
[22:25] <Viridisolum|Typing> Hei Maven
[22:25] <Viridisolum|Typing> Thanks Aurinsula.
[22:25] <Otulia> Hullo.
[22:25] <Guillaume> sianara
[22:25] <Eve> So what would the "Bad Lanos" be like? Would they be direct military rivals o "Good Lanos"?
[22:25] <@Lanos> yes
[22:25] <Guillaume> *sayonar
01[22:25] <Maven> 大家好吗
[22:25] <Guillaume> a
[22:25] <@Aurinsula> 还可以
[22:25] <Mikael> They would be free and enlightened I imagine Eve
[22:25] <Guillaume> so mush asian i cant read
[22:25] <Eve> I ask because West and East Germany didn't conflict with each other directly too much.
[22:25] <Eve> But the situation was different
[22:25] <Guillaume> It was more NATo and Russia
[22:26] <Eve> Yeah.
[22:26] <Guillaume> Putin's USSR
[22:26] <Eve> It was indirect.
[22:26] <@Aurinsula> They would be direct military rivals.
[22:26] <Otulia> My guess is this will be more NK vs SK?
[22:26] <@Aurinsula> What one has, the other would also have.
[22:26] <@Aurinsula> They would believe in socialism.
01[22:27] <Maven> 先在我是在这个channel给你们谈一谈
[22:27] <Guillaume> Liberte, Egalite, & Fraternite ?
[22:27] <Otulia> Too equal seems improbable: To my knowledge, they're radically different in terms of political systems, so their countries as a whole would be markedly differnt.
[22:27] <Eve> Would both countries be recognized by every other nation at this point?
01[22:27] <Maven> 好吗？
[22:27] <Guillaume> I don't recognise Aurinsulan puppet states
[22:27] <Kaede> No objections here, Maven.
[22:27] <@Aurinsula> 可以啊
[22:28] <Guillaume> Everyone jump on my bandwagon
06[22:28] * Mikael jumps on Guillaume
[22:28] <@Aurinsula> Okay, so the Democratic Republic of Lanos.
[22:28] <@Lanos> vs the Republic of Lanos?
06[22:28] * Otulia jumps on Mikael
[22:28] <@Aurinsula> So it seems.
06[22:29] * Guillaume pushes Otulia of Mikael
[22:29] <@Aurinsula> Do you want them to be a credible threat?
[22:29] <Guillaume> HE'S MY BAE
[22:29] <Guillaume> GERROFF
06[22:29] * Otulia pushes Guillaume on Mikael
[22:29] <@Lanos> how would they not be a credible threat
06[22:29] * Guillaume draws his sabre at Otulia
06[22:29] * Otulia draws his nice-looking prawn fork set at Guillaume
06[22:29] * Mikael is so glad bae will defend our collective honour
01[22:30] <Maven> 为什么你们要打扰我的朋友吗？
06[22:30] * Guillaume "En garde"
[22:30] <Eve> Hmm... If you're looking for someone to play it, I might be interested too.
[22:30] <@Aurinsula> They would be more credible the larger they are.
[22:30] <@Aurinsula> Would you want to take this new DRL out of the current Lanos?
06[22:31] * Otulia "En..." *stabs Mikael*
[22:31] <@Lanos> yes Aurin
06[22:31] * Gvozdevsk gives Otulia a gun
06[22:31] * Guillaume parries Otulia's attack
06[22:31] * Otulia asks for bullets
[22:31] <Viridisolum|Typing> So what is Maven saying?
03[22:31] * GhantBBL (~Gdog@97-91-148-120.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) has joined #RegionAeneas
06[22:31] * Gvozdevsk gives Otulia a 30 rounds assault clip
06[22:31] * Guillaume draws his pistol
06[22:31] * Guillaume shoots Otulia
01[22:31] <Maven> 她要求Otulia 放过她
[22:31] <@Lanos> [21:31]	Gvozdevsk	gives Otulia a 30 rounds assault clip < *facepalms*
[22:31] <Otulia> He's asking why we're bothering his friends, if google translate and creative assumptions are correct
[22:32] <Gvozdevsk> It was a joke Lanos, calm down
01[22:32] <Maven> incorrect
06[22:32] * Otulia shoots Guillaume, keels over dramatically
[22:32] <@Aurinsula> Okay, got it.
[22:32] <Kaede> For the last time, Maven, Aeneas as a region is /not/ party to this.
01[22:32] <Maven> my girlfriend
01[22:32] <Maven> Viridsolum sent a TG to her
[22:32] <Viridisolum|Typing> Oh
[22:32] <Viridisolum|Typing> Ah
[22:32] <@Aurinsula> Umm...
01[22:32] <Maven> she has told me, and has asked many times for Otulia to leave her alone to C&D
01[22:33] <Maven> to back off
01[22:33] <Maven> bugger off etc.
[22:33] <@Aurinsula> That's pretty serious.
01[22:33] <Maven> he does not take no for an answer
[22:33] <@Aurinsula> Otulia, can you tell us your side of this story?
01[22:33] <Maven> there is no 'side' there is only stalking
[22:33] <Gvozdevsk> Is this waht you were telling us about earlier Otulia?
[22:33] <Otulia> As I explained to everyone: I'm merely bringing charges because her accusations, made without any evidence, have damaged my reputation, and I simply seek to restore what reputation I have.
[22:33] <Otulia> Yes, Gvoz, it was that.
[22:33] <Viridisolum|Typing> I don't know what's happening but I would like to apologize if I've offended her.
01[22:34] <Maven> I have logs Otulia
01[22:34] <Maven> all the way back to 3 years ago
[22:34] <Otulia> And?
[22:34] <Viridisolum|Typing> I was only inquring.
[22:34] <Otulia> And?
01[22:34] <Maven> wanna lie to my face again?
[22:34] <Otulia> Sorry?
[22:34] <Mikael> Can we not do this here?
01[22:34] <Maven> I said it in English this time
[22:34] <Otulia> Would you prefer a PM, Maven?
[22:34] <Mikael> It's not Aeneas relevant and therefore has no place in the Aeneas IRC
01[22:34] <Maven> it is
01[22:35] <Maven> because now people of Aeneas are pestering my girlfriend
[22:35] <@Aurinsula> If one of our members does something morally questionable, then it is our business.
[22:35] <Otulia> A PM is open, discuss it there, Maven
[22:35] <Kaede> I absolutely agree with Aurinsula.
[22:35] <Viridisolum|Typing> I'm very sorry.
[22:35] <Otulia> Will I have to explain this again?
[22:35] <@Aurinsula> Wherever that something may be.
1[22:35] <Maven> and knowing of Lanos's history, Otulia's history and now for inquiries to begin with her?
[22:35] <Mikael> People, not Aeneas
01[22:35] <Maven> hell no.
01[22:36] <Maven> I warn only once more, you leave Mont alone, Lolloh
[22:36] <@Aurinsula> Dear me.
[22:36] <@Aurinsula> Can we start from the top here?
01[22:36] <Maven> of course, Aurin <3
[22:36] <Otulia> Not until I have my day in court, Maven
01[22:36] <Maven> there is no court on NS
[22:36] <@Aurinsula> That's today.
[22:36] <@Aurinsula> That's right now.
[22:36] <@Aurinsula> So it seems.
[22:37] <Otulia> Mods, anyway
[22:37] <Viridisolum|Typing> If I didn't tried to know what is happening this shouldn't have become this far.
[22:37] <@Aurinsula> Maven, you are bringing these charges up. Would you like to explain what you've seen?
[22:37] <Otulia> Alright, I say we take a vote: Who wishes to hear my woeful tale today, in this minute?
01[22:37] <Maven> of course, Aurin, I am a reasonable person.
[22:37] <Kaede> We're listening.
[22:38] <@Aurinsula> We can take this to another room, if nobody else wants to hear it.
[22:38] <Viridisolum|Typing> I will not dwell further.
[22:38] <Guillaume> #Shenanigans
[22:38] <Viridisolum|Typing> I'm not going to stress myself into another issue.
[22:38] <Guillaume> lol Gvoz
01[22:39] <Maven> where do I explain?
01[22:39] <Maven> is this where I speak?
[22:39] <Viridisolum|Typing> I'm trying to write a thread and three posts at the moment.
[22:39] <Gvozdevsk> I didn't know what it was
[22:39] <Guillaume> #ADayInCourt
[22:39] <@Aurinsula> Actually, let's take this to another room.
[22:39] <Otulia> Very well, if no one is against it, we'll take this in turns, Maven: One line for you, one line for me. Deal?
[22:40] <Guillaume> We're in #ADayInCourt
[22:40] <Otulia> Well, what room are you suggesting, Aurin?
[22:40] <Otulia> Frankly, I'd prefer not to have these shenanigans either, Maven.
[22:40] <@Aurinsula> Yes, #ADayInCourt is fine.
[22:41] <@Aurinsula> Otulia , would you kindly join us there?
[22:41] <Otulia> How do I?
[22:41] <@Aurinsula> Go to "Chat Now" and open it as a new tab.
[22:41] <Guillaume> Hey Gvoz
[22:41] <@Aurinsula> You can be in two rooms simultaneously.
[22:41] <Guillaume> Not Gvoz
[22:41] <Gvozdevsk> I haven't been involved in internet dram since I was 14 years old, over 7 years ago and I'm not prepared to start again
03[22:41] * GhantBBL is now known as Ghant
[22:41] <Otulia> Where is "Chat Now"?

MEANWHILE IN A DAY IN COURT

Session Start: Fri Jun 26 22:39:41 2015
Session Ident: #ADayInCourt
03[22:39] * Now talking in #ADayInCourt
03[22:40] * Kaede (uid29388@id-29388.charlton.irccloud.com) has joined #ADayInCourt
03[22:40] * Aurinsula_ (webchat@adsl-108-132-151-96.mia.bellsouth.net) has joined #ADayInCourt
03[22:40] * Eve (uid64990@id-64990.highgate.irccloud.com) has joined #ADayInCourt
01[22:40] <Maven> do I begin now?
01[22:40] <Maven> or shall I do a dance?
06[22:41] * Guillaume begins to duggie
[22:41] <Aurinsula_> Wait for Otulia.
03[22:42] * Otulia (Mibbit@cpe-108-167-63-236.neb.res.rr.com) has joined #ADayInCourt
[22:42] <Aurinsula_> Alright.
[22:42] <Otulia> *Gulp*
[22:42] <Aurinsula_> May I begin with some preliminary statements?
[22:42] <@Lanos> I would like to
[22:42] <Otulia> Go ahead.
[22:42] <Aurinsula_> I would like to consider myself a disinterested party.
01[22:42] <Maven> I will act respectfully and bring no unwarranted matters up <3
01[22:43] <Maven> such is my way
[22:43] <Otulia> That's fine by me.
[22:43] <Aurinsula_> I genuinely lack any background whatsoever with this issue, and, before this moment, have never heard of it.
[22:43] <@Lanos> I would like to admit what I had done to Maven three years ago
01[22:43] <Maven> indeed
01[22:43] <Maven> I have not forgotten it
[22:43] <Aurinsula_> Lanos, I am speaking.
[22:43] <Otulia> Maven: Here's my deal: We do this line by line: You say one thing, I say another. Got it?
[22:43] <Otulia> Anyways, continue, Aurin
[22:43] <Guillaume> I would rather have it all be continuous
[22:44] <Otulia> Oh dear...
[22:44] <Aurinsula_> At the ripe old age of 32, I think I am the oldest member of this region.
01[22:44] <Maven> this is now how it works, the accused does not dictate terms to the victim, or in this case, the one standing up for her.
[22:44] <Kaede> Allow Aurin to dictate proceedings.
01[22:44] <Maven> aye, Kaede
06[22:44] * Guillaume grants Aurinsula the honourary title of Judge
[22:44] <Aurinsula_> My interest, first and foremost, is finding out the complete picture of events.
[22:44] <Otulia> Um... sorry, but may I ask for a recess?
[22:44] <Aurinsula_> As it is said, no malice or favor whatsoever.
[22:45] <Aurinsula_> Go ahead. We'll continue this discussion in, say, 10 minutes.
[22:45] <Aurinsula_> I need to get another drink.
[22:45] <Otulia> I simply don't have the time at the moment, I've got like 10 minutes left.
[22:45] <Otulia> Anyways, I won't be available later on tonight.
[22:45] <Aurinsula_> Alright, then, that's fair
[22:45] <Otulia> I would appreciate it if Aurinsula would grant a recess until tomorrow evening
[22:46] <Aurinsula_> I'll examine what Maven has to say, and then I'll give you a chance to refute it.
[22:46] <Otulia> 5 minutes only, though.
[22:46] <Aurinsula_> No reason to put a time limit. I'll give her as much time as she needs now, and I'll give you as much time as you need tomorrow.
[22:47] <Otulia> It's just that I'm worried that having the first word will give them an advantage, at least among those in the stands.
01[22:47] <Maven> context begins now, we had accepted Otulia under another name in our RP group
[22:47] <Aurinsula_> It won't.
[22:47] <Aurinsula_> This is boilerplate.
[22:47] <Otulia> OK then.
[22:47] <Otulia> Well, go ahead, Maven. I bear no further complaints.
1[22:47] <Maven> allow me to clarify that this matter began with him flipping out at the entire channel
01[22:47] <Maven> http://pastebin.com/EWdtn1s4
[22:47] <Aurinsula_> I will give you fair treatment, I assure you. I will give everyone fair treatment.
01[22:48] <Maven> after this flipout
01[22:48] <Maven> he commenced derailing an RP of Mont's Roleplay
01[22:48] <Maven> so deeply in a way so grotesquely
[22:48] <Aurinsula_> I am reading this log. As I do so, would you kindly summarize it?
01[22:48] <Maven> Mont was no longer comfortable RPing with him
01[22:48] <Maven> forever
01[22:49] <Maven> this was the first explosion of Lolloh taking his aggression out in the channel
01[22:49] <Maven> shortly after
01[22:49] <Maven> he RPs his characters raping Montesardo's characters without her consent
01[22:49] <Maven> a regionmate of mine reported it quickly
01[22:49] <Maven> https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=302195&p=20677999#p20677999
01[22:49] <Maven> and we confronted him in the channel
01[22:50] <Maven> and in a very open matter discussed how it was intolerable
[22:50] <Aurinsula_> The links in that link have been taken down.
01[22:50] <Maven> and how it was an act we all met with disgust in and out of character
01[22:50] <Maven> indeed because they were too explicit
[22:51] <Aurinsula_> Go on.
01[22:51] <Maven> the rape was then followed by a quick discussion among our channel regulars and we discussed banning him from our roleplay group
01[22:51] <Maven> many of us discussed ethics
01[22:51] <Maven> some of us discussed quality
01[22:52] <Maven> being of incredibly forgiving nature Montesardo offered him a chance provided he answer a simple prompt
01[22:52] <Maven> he then did another unacceptable sample, and he was banished from our group
01[22:52] <Maven> he then proceeds to follow her continuously using a puppet
[22:53] <Otulia> Will that be all?
01[22:53] <Maven> no
[22:53] <Aurinsula_> Please go into more detail about "following her continuously."
01[22:53] <Maven> of course
[22:53] <Aurinsula_> And this simple prompt.
[22:53] <Otulia> Very well, continue. I will personally be leaving. Aurin, will you please log this so I can reply later.
[22:53] <Otulia> ?
[22:53] <Aurinsula_> I will, yes.
[22:54] <Otulia> Thank you. Bye.
[22:54] <Aurinsula_> And for the record, I will be showing him this log.
02[22:54] * Otulia (Mibbit@cpe-108-167-63-236.neb.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
[22:54] <Aurinsula_> So speak as though he were here.
01[22:54] <Maven> he pestered her incessantly
01[22:54] <Maven> http://i.imgur.com/0OKSpRG.png
01[22:54] <Maven> until she begged him to leave her alone
01[22:54] <Maven> he refused
[22:55] <Aurinsula_> Do go on.
01[22:55] <Maven> he continued to disrupt her activity on NS after being asked to C & D
01[22:56] <Maven> and now he's gone on this mockworthy crusade against Mont
01[22:56] <Maven> claiming she doesn't have a leg to stand on
01[22:56] <Maven> not realizing a Maven never forgets
01[22:56] <Maven> and being a Maven means I have IP addresses!
01[22:56] <Maven> Otulia and Lolloh are the same person
[22:57] <Aurinsula_> I see.
[22:58] <Aurinsula_> What would you say is the substance of his crusade against Mont?
01[22:58] <Maven> he's lodged telegrams blackmailing her
01[22:58] <Maven> and then posted on the forums
01[22:58] <Maven> trying to tarnish her reputation
0122:58] <Maven> trying to tarnish her reputation
01[22:59] <Maven> also my writing prompt was very simple
01[22:59] <Maven> https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=21475669#p21475669
[22:59] <Aurinsula_> As I read this, could you kindly summarize it?
01[22:59] <Maven> of course
01[23:00] <Maven> the summary is to create an RP with original characters
01[23:00] <Maven> where a person mistakes another for a stranger
01[23:00] <Maven> and they need to go along with the ruse
01[23:00] <Maven> he'd need to write in the first person POV
01[23:00] <Maven> in order to connect strongly to the intended audience
01[23:01] <Maven> I graded it quite fairly given the circumstances
[23:01] <Aurinsula_> And?
01[23:02] <Maven> He failed
01[23:02] <Maven> and was banished
01[23:02] <Maven> he got a 28% from me
01[23:02] <Maven> and a unanimous agreement by the team
[23:03] <Aurinsula_> What, in this case, is "the team?"
01[23:03] <Maven> the entire RP group
01[23:03] <Maven> yes, there was unanimous agreement for him to be kicked out of a group which plays pastel colored ponies.
01[23:03] <Maven> One whose main aesop is friendship and harmony etc.
01[23:04] <Maven> because he was hostile, and he sexually harrassed a member
[23:04] <Aurinsula_> I see.
[23:04] <Aurinsula_> On the understanding that I will present this to Otulia as written...
[23:04] <Aurinsula_> Is there anything else that you'd like to say?
01[23:04] <Maven> there is
[23:05] <Aurinsula_> That relates to the case?
01[23:05] <Maven> if you aren't going to read the material in context you are not going to get information from it
01[23:05] <Maven> either way you will have a lot of reading
01[23:05] <Maven> I am going through logs
[23:07] <Aurinsula_> Please supply whatever context you feel might help.
01[23:07] <Maven> of course
01[23:07] <Maven> I regret to inform you that it is lengthy
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01[23:07] <Maven> ah, Ghant
01[23:07] <Maven> o/
[23:07] <Ghant> hello
06[23:07] * Maven snugs
01[23:07] <Maven> <3
[23:07] <Aurinsula_> May we keep to the matter at hand?
01[23:08] <Maven> I am, Ghant is a friend of Montesardo
01[23:08] <Maven> and of mine as well

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