Hedrin: Ritualistically killing turkeys

+Hedrin 13:08:24
There is no god. https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/06/us/turducken-pringles-thanksgiving-trnd/index.html?utm_term=link&utm_...
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+pela 13:08:28
[ Pringles unveils turducken-flavored chips for an even crispier Thanksgiving feast - CNN ]
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+innit 13:09:15
The practicing of ritualistically carving up a turkey is incredibly unethical.
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+RachelThompson 13:09:27
The practicing of ritualistically carving up a turkey is incredibly unethical.
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+Hedrin 13:09:59
It's dead - usually.
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+Joel 13:10:57
it might be unethical but it's also appetizing
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+Hedrin 13:11:01
A turkey is  really dumb animal.
it's brain is like the size of a watch battery.
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+Joel 13:12:02
pigs are by far the most intelligent animals i eat
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+chumpchange 13:12:15
you dont eat dolphin?
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+RachelThompson 13:12:27
Have you ever watched a rafter of turkeys?
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+Hedrin 13:12:27
Factory turkeys' brains are 1/3 the size of wild turkeys.
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+Joel 13:12:30
not that i have been informed of, chumpchange
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+RachelThompson 13:12:34
They're fun and curious as they explore.
Hedrin: Are you interested in science fiction?
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+Joel 13:13:19
JD drinkers' brains are 1/3 the size of wild turkey drinkers' brains
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+Hedrin 13:13:20
I am a Republican, ALL science is fiction.
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+RachelThompson 13:13:31
Have you seen any scary stories about how some artificial intelligence or alien species ritualistically hunts humans as part of some meaning we don't understand?
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+RachelThompson 13:13:58
The humans only understand the terror they feel and the apparent meaningless of killing humans for whatever alien purpose there is.
There are no artificial intelligences or alien species terrorizing humans -- that's just fiction.
But, those stories are allegories with us as the alien species.
And you're seeing insight into how the animals we kill feel about our practices.
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+Hedrin 13:15:05
Did you ever see how they slaughter cattle? They all just line up, and let it happen.
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+RachelThompson 13:15:05
What a disgusting species we are, from that perspective, yes.
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+Hedrin 13:15:09
Like Trump voters.
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+RachelThompson 13:15:35
Can you imagine how much contempt you'd have for some civilization that killed 100 million turkeys en masse, but then held a ceremony at the leader's home where they pardoned just one.
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+Hedrin 13:15:47
like the Hunger Games
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+RandomNoise 13:15:52
disgusting because we eat other animals?
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+RachelThompson 13:16:12
It's like the Hunger Games, I was typing out, yes.
But much, much, much worse.
There, they only killed 23 people out of millions.
We do the opposite.
RandomNoise: I said what I said.
You can always count on my exceptional ability to be articulate.
Any civilization which kills 100 million beings en masse, but holds a ceremony in which one is freed is a disgusting civilization.
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+Hedrin 13:17:22
I like how you tie up a turkey before you cook it - how sadistic is that?
You stitch the whole thing up like it's a meat corset.
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+RachelThompson 13:18:21
Hedrin: Are you able to spend an equal amount of posts describing the nature of the turkey's life?
You've already reminded yourself of how much you like to get turkey carcasses hundreds of times in your life.
Doing so again is of course boring and small.
But, have you ever spent time wondering what it's like to be born into your one and only life as a turkey?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yDvU8Bn-l0
They make cute sounds.
You did one thing, Hedrin, that human carnists usually do, that was a blunder in this conversation.
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+Joel 13:20:44
turkey farmers need the income from the holiday season from all the suburb/city folk who buy them at retail price
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+RachelThompson 13:20:48
You compared humans in civilization with full bellies and safety and science to turkeys in the wild.
This is extremely unfair.
Yeah, humans in civilizations with full bellies and safety and science act okay at times.
They're not always retarded.
And when turkeys also feel full and safe and loved you'll be surprised by their depth.
What you should do is compare humans in war zones and refugee camps to turkeys in the wild.
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+RandomNoise 13:21:37
Turkeys were made to be eaten
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+RachelThompson 13:21:46
And do you see an exceptionally noble species in refugee camps?
As they shit where they live, rape each other, and pray to invisible beings?
There's a lot to feel contempt for, right.
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Many, many species like to eat and be insensitive to other animals.
If that's the highest standard you're going to reach for as a human than you're not much better than a bear or a dingo.
But, if you can ponder the realities of a turkey who has no ability to defend itself against our global civilization.
If you can care deeply about its experience and lament the immense suffering their species feels as a result of the actions of our species.
If you can wish they didn't feel that unnecessary suffering and hope for a day in which more humans are thoughtful about the well-being of all species.
Then, brother, you have become a being of some honor, and I would admire that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodhisattva_vow
The Bodhisattva vow is the vow taken by Mahayana Buddhists to liberate all sentient beings. One who has taken the vow is nominally known as a Bodhisattva. This can be done by venerating all Buddhas and by cultivating supreme moral and spiritual perfection, to be placed in the service of others. In particular, Bodhisattvas promise to practice the six perfections of giving, moral discipline, patience, effort, concentration and wisdom in order to fulfill their bodhicitta aim of attaining enlightenment for the sake of all beings.[1] Whereas the Prātimokṣa vows cease at death, the Bodhisattva vow extends into future lives.
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+Hedrin 13:26:31
I know a woman who had so much oral sex that her liver turned to Foie gras .
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