[2:57:34 PM] Elle Reeve: Hi
[2:57:44 PM] Hmmm....: hello
[2:58:14 PM] Elle Reeve: I'm trying to find out what happened with Devon
[2:58:17 PM] Elle Reeve: and Atomwaffen
[2:58:25 PM] Hmmm....: can you tell me what you know thus far?
[2:58:45 PM] Elle Reeve: well that's tricky
[2:59:11 PM] Elle Reeve: I've *heard* he was communist, then national socialist, then salafist
[2:59:30 PM] Elle Reeve: that perhaps he showed signs of being mentally ill
[2:59:45 PM] Elle Reeve: that his roommates were part of atomwaffen, as was Odin / Brandon Russell
[2:59:57 PM] Hmmm....: what do you think atomwaffen is
[3:00:05 PM] Elle Reeve: that there are rumors that Devon wanted to kill members of atomwaffen at a meetup
[3:00:23 PM] Elle Reeve: hm i don't know exactly
[3:00:43 PM] Elle Reeve: a group of likeminded people connected to ironmarch
[3:00:56 PM] Elle Reeve: who met up in person sometimes
[3:00:58 PM] Elle Reeve: so
[3:01:01 PM] Elle Reeve: what is real
[3:01:05 PM] Elle Reeve: what is atomwaffen
[3:01:13 PM] Hmmm....: i'd just call it a pseudo militia if that makes sense
[3:01:18 PM] Hmmm....: all like minded friends
[3:01:28 PM] Elle Reeve: i've seen photos of them in the woods
[3:01:29 PM] Hmmm....: making sure everybody is ok employed etc
[3:01:52 PM] Elle Reeve: but also there's an element of white supremacy, no?
[3:03:44 PM] Elle Reeve: the FBI is interested in atomwaffen, no?
[3:05:22 PM] Hmmm....: first can I ask how you got my skype
[3:05:41 PM] Elle Reeve: I'm a journalist
[3:06:13 PM] Hmmm....: that doesn't answer the question
[3:06:25 PM] Hmmm....: we can move on after
[3:06:33 PM] Hmmm....: i'd just like to know if someone gave it to you or something
[3:16:44 PM] Hmmm....: ok I'm not talking about AW
[3:16:50 PM] Hmmm....: ill tell you about devon
[3:17:01 PM] Hmmm....: had a shit childhood, got raised on the internet
[3:17:11 PM] Hmmm....: last year his best friend kill himself
[3:17:21 PM] Hmmm....: he gets pretty fucked up about, converts to islam amonth later
[3:17:24 PM] Hmmm....: specifically salafism
[3:17:45 PM] Hmmm....: cause a big drama about it for obvious reasons
[3:18:02 PM] Hmmm....: eventually he manages to convince us everything is fine, and things are normal
[3:18:15 PM] Hmmm....: we play videogames, everyone meets up and stuff
[3:18:33 PM] Hmmm....: but recently people started criticizing islam again and his involvement with us
[3:18:54 PM] Hmmm....: and then he goes and kills his friends, who were people that stuck up for him in the fiurst place
[3:20:11 PM] Hmmm....: if you're still there after this I have information concerning Brandon Russell
[3:22:24 PM] Elle Reeve: i heard the part about his friend committing suicide
[3:22:34 PM] Elle Reeve: yes
[3:22:40 PM] Elle Reeve: i would like Brandon Russell
[3:22:43 PM] Elle Reeve: [sorry was on the phone
[3:22:44 PM] Elle Reeve: ]
[3:23:29 PM] Hmmm....: ok so it seems like the feds and devon are trying to put some of this on brandon
[3:23:43 PM] Elle Reeve: he told them about atomwaffen
[3:24:21 PM] Hmmm....: yeah but that's not the point in what I'm trying to say
[3:24:26 PM] Hmmm....: Brandon is a big science guy
[3:25:11 PM] Hmmm....: Hes a great guy whether or not you disagree with his world view and hes done so much for devon
[3:25:23 PM] Hmmm....: I think devon is trying to get Brandon into some shit for reasons I don't know
[3:25:33 PM] Hmmm....: maybe he just went crazy, maybe it was indoctrination, i'm unsure
[3:25:39 PM] Hmmm....: but Brandon dindu nuffin
[3:26:38 PM] Elle Reeve: i think people might point to, i don't know, "shitposting" i guess, and say, a crazy person might take all that stuff seriously
[3:26:46 PM] Elle Reeve: and then someone did
[3:26:51 PM] Elle Reeve: do you know what i'm saying?
[3:27:10 PM] Hmmm....: yeah i get what you're throwing down
[3:27:28 PM] Hmmm....: devon had this weird infatuation with his friend who killed himself
[3:27:42 PM] Elle Reeve: i've heard something about that
[3:27:48 PM] Hmmm....: its like he saw him as a father figure
[3:28:03 PM] Elle Reeve: losing a person close to you can be extra difficult if you're prone to mental illness
[3:28:12 PM] Hmmm....: yeah
[3:28:29 PM] Hmmm....: and i think the introduction of an ideology that is nothing but violence like Salafism helps too
[3:28:56 PM] Hmmm....: he went from radical but in the appropriate context to just an asshole when he converted
[3:30:42 PM] Hmmm....: no one saw this coming
[3:30:46 PM] Hmmm....: not against his friends that is
[3:30:54 PM] Elle Reeve: but people did think he was crazy?
[3:31:00 PM] Hmmm....: well he was always a bit out there
[3:31:12 PM] Hmmm....: and people thought if someone pushed him far he might do some omar mateen type shit
[3:31:34 PM] Hmmm....: but i think he was crazier than we all thought if he would kill some of his best friends then throw the rest under the bus for made up crimes
[3:31:56 PM] Elle Reeve: you would be more comfortable if he killed strangers
[3:32:11 PM] Hmmm....: well not necessarily, it just theres a different level in degree
[3:32:50 PM] Hmmm....: sure its killing people either way
[3:33:07 PM] Hmmm....: but it takes a significantly more fucked up person to do it against their near family
[3:33:12 PM] Hmmm....: if that makes any sense
[3:33:26 PM] Hmmm....: i'd also prefer to remain unnamed
[3:33:36 PM] Hmmm....: my account not being said or anything if possible
[3:37:10 PM] Elle Reeve: i mean
[3:37:14 PM] Elle Reeve: i don't really know who you are
[3:37:19 PM] Elle Reeve: how long have you known devon?
[3:37:26 PM] Hmmm....: around a year and a half
[3:37:27 PM] Elle Reeve: this whole time? [~since he was 14]
[3:37:30 PM] Elle Reeve: ok
[3:38:18 PM] Elle Reeve: but does it give you pause
[3:38:41 PM] Elle Reeve: that mentally ill people might be particularly drawn to this ideology? or this part of the internet?
[3:38:49 PM] Hmmm....: Salafism I think so
[3:39:13 PM] Elle Reeve: what do you believe?
[3:39:21 PM] Elle Reeve: like do you call yourself alt right or national socialist or what?
[3:41:39 PM] Elle Reeve: if Brandon talked to the FBI and it led to this
[3:41:40 PM] Elle Reeve: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/florida-keys/article151953257.html
[3:41:47 PM] Elle Reeve: what did the other AW person tell the FBI?
[3:42:01 PM] Hmmm....: i don't know he got released i think
[3:42:11 PM] Hmmm....: Brandon had a bunch of shit but it was all scientific stuff
[3:42:20 PM] Hmmm....: none of it had any malicious purposes to it
[3:43:17 PM] Elle Reeve: how do you know it wasn't malicious
[3:44:51 PM] Hmmm....: because i knew the guy he had some physics stuff and he did experiments with it because he was just one of those guys who loved science. He was like the character  Mark Watney portrayed by Matt Damon in "The Martian"
[3:47:31 PM] Elle Reeve: did Ironmarch stop allowing new accounts because of all this
[3:47:45 PM] Hmmm....: I don't know i'm not within their administration
[3:48:13 PM] Hmmm....: Brandon just loved nuclear physics
[3:48:24 PM] Hmmm....: that's all that has to do with anything
[3:50:29 PM] Hmmm....: if you want more about our ideology
[3:50:40 PM] Hmmm....: we basically are an alt-right group that worked closely with Richard spencer
[3:50:47 PM] Elle Reeve: you are?
[3:50:53 PM] Hmmm....: yes
[3:51:11 PM] Hmmm....: we have our militia like stuff so that we can defend ourselves from antifa and stuff
[3:51:24 PM] Hmmm....: we just to become a political party
[3:52:51 PM] Elle Reeve: you are in atomwaffen ?
[3:52:55 PM] Hmmm....: yes
[3:54:47 PM] Elle Reeve: you worked with spencer on security?
[3:55:11 PM] Hmmm....: yeah, spencer is two faced
[3:55:21 PM] Hmmm....: one end he advocates for peaceful stuff in public
[3:55:30 PM] Hmmm....: but he creates private army type stuff on the side
[3:57:11 PM] Elle Reeve: i have done some reporting on his security
[3:57:16 PM] Elle Reeve: they didn't mention atomwaffen
[3:57:27 PM] Hmmm....: yeah no one does he wants it secret
[3:57:32 PM] Hmmm....: it goes well beyond security
[3:57:36 PM] Hmmm....: its about having legions
[3:57:42 PM] Hmmm....: also
[3:57:49 PM] Hmmm....: ive heard devon is saying stuff like he wanted to kill mopre
[3:57:58 PM] Hmmm....: and from talks weve had with his associates who are also converts
[3:58:02 PM] Elle Reeve: i've spoken with people who were involved doing security for him in auburn and charlottesville and they didn't mention atomwaffen at all
[3:58:08 PM] Hmmm....: it seems he devised this plan and would've killed us all at a meet up
[3:58:14 PM] Elle Reeve: i heard that
[3:58:16 PM] Elle Reeve: do you think that's true?
[3:58:38 PM] Hmmm....: its hard for me to say it straight up like this, since I considered him to be one of my closest friends at some point
[3:58:58 PM] Hmmm....: i even was shitposting with him as recently as 12 hours before this all went down
[3:59:11 PM] Hmmm....: but i think he was always unstable, and this salfism shit got to his head more than anything
[4:00:37 PM] Elle Reeve: can you show me transcripts?
[4:01:40 PM] Hmmm....: this is Wednesday when he got a job at a pizza place
[4:01:40 PM] Hmmm....: [5/17/2017 12:34:26 AM] Hmmm....: how do you handle pork topings
[5/17/2017 12:34:30 AM] Hmmm....: not memeing just curious
[5/17/2017 12:35:41 AM] Kekman Al-Amriki [ANFOMAX]: I put it on, I don't eat it
[5/17/2017 12:35:46 AM] Kekman Al-Amriki [ANFOMAX]: I'm not a tist my man
[4:01:47 PM] Hmmm....: edit out my name there to boyo
[4:02:13 PM] Hmmm....: this message haunts me a bit
[4:02:14 PM] Hmmm....: you on dude
[4:02:27 PM] Elle Reeve: was that hours before he did it?
[4:02:32 PM] Hmmm....: that was after
[4:02:35 PM] Hmmm....: i think it happened friday
[4:03:39 PM] Elle Reeve: wait
[4:03:41 PM] Elle Reeve: really??
[4:03:46 PM] Elle Reeve: can you send a screenshot
[4:06:46 PM] Elle Reeve: how do you think brandon knew to show up at the apartment
[4:06:51 PM] Elle Reeve: ?
[4:06:53 PM] Hmmm....: what do you mean knew
[4:07:24 PM] Elle Reeve: the latest story says after Devon told police he killed his roommates, they went to his apartment and found Brandon there, in his uniform, crying
[4:07:35 PM] Hmmm....: i don't think he knew
[4:07:44 PM] Hmmm....: well
[4:07:49 PM] Hmmm....: i know he didn't know
[4:08:22 PM] Hmmm....: I talked to him the morning of
[4:08:30 PM] Hmmm....: he sounded broken, his best friend just killed his other best friends
[4:08:36 PM] Hmmm....: he had nothing to do with it
[4:10:10 PM] Elle Reeve: wow
[4:10:14 PM] Elle Reeve: do you have transcripts ?
[4:10:17 PM] Hmmm....: no
[4:10:19 PM] Hmmm....: it was over voice
[4:11:23 PM] Hmmm....: ok I'm done no more interview