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  1. hey what's up everybody it's david here
  2. with core confidence and today i'm
  3. excited and pleased to bring a guy just
  4. loved working with michael will and
  5. successful business owner living up in
  6. northern california just a great guy you
  7. know successful business owner cool but
  8. awesome guy awesome human being and want
  9. to talk or gonna talk to michael today
  10. about what he achieved in his program
  11. well his obstacles what he went through
  12. all these things the process of working
  13. through stuff with shyness with
  14. conference traction with women all that
  15. stuff so excited to do that today so
  16. welcome Michael hey David I doing do
  17. great Manny here
  18. yeah man great to have you and and glad
  19. we set this up and was really pleased to
  20. receive that email if you're like hey I
  21. wanna give you an update and you know
  22. things are things are going well and
  23. this is what's happening and so I
  24. thought what a great time to to set up
  25. something like this so so yeah so you
  26. know the first thing I always love to
  27. ask here is when you first reached out
  28. to me to book your your breakthrough
  29. call you know what was going on for you
  30. where were you at in terms of your you
  31. know confidence attraction dating social
  32. life all this stuff with women what was
  33. where were you at and what were you
  34. struggling with where was I I actually
  35. felt like I was in the dumps you know I
  36. my confidence was shattered I had a
  37. really hard time just going up and
  38. saying hi to a woman and there was how
  39. do I explain being mean I felt lost in
  40. myself and you know after coming from an
  41. 18 year of marriage and being feeling
  42. like no woman ever wants me again and I
  43. was shattered that's that's how I felt
  44. was pretty pretty shattered when I talk
  45. to you yeah and I remember
  46. our first conversations we were speaking
  47. before knows we're setting up all the
  48. technical stuff for this right and
  49. getting it working and I remember that
  50. now that word shattered came up actually
  51. yeah we got got to what was really going
  52. on for you and and that's that's a
  53. common place for guys to be a shattered
  54. lonely you know can be desperation going
  55. on can be you know all kinds of things
  56. going on especially post divorce right
  57. now and and I also remember that your
  58. you've been in a situation where you you
  59. did have plenty of women around you more
  60. or less but there was there was not a
  61. way for you to reach out right with the
  62. confidence say hi or even know sort of
  63. what to do in order to get things to
  64. move forward romantically or dating-wise
  65. it alone you know a lot of a lot of the
  66. reason guys reach out to me is not the
  67. shyness confidence thing but how do we
  68. get them chasing me so it's easier for
  69. me and I'm not chasing them down hunting
  70. them down and facing all that fear
  71. rejection or you know coming across as
  72. desperate or needy that kind of thing
  73. yeah yeah definitely where I was at you
  74. know we're like okay yeah you know you
  75. talked it to a woman you look at or knew
  76. just like oh well how do i okay we get a
  77. conversation going we talk and
  78. everything's great how do I move it
  79. forward I just didn't know the steps or
  80. if then within myself how to move things
  81. forward with a woman I was just
  82. and again that's from being with one
  83. woman for so long and not understanding
  84. women all over again yeah or
  85. understanding yeah and I would say I
  86. feel like you know about quarter of the
  87. guys that you know reach out like you
  88. aside from shyness and confidence what
  89. sort of like what do i do like I've been
  90. on the dating game for 18 years 20 years
  91. 27 years 30 years and I don't know how
  92. things work now and not only that it's
  93. like the element of
  94. you know the magnetic element of having
  95. it be to where you know being this kind
  96. of guy that it's just there's this ease
  97. with it not having to like play the
  98. numbers game but let alone just like
  99. well what do I do in general because
  100. there are different ways right there's
  101. things like pick up out there and all
  102. that stuff and I don't think you came
  103. across that stuff but you know this is
  104. this is very different than that as well
  105. and it's meant to integrate in your life
  106. so you can just be who you are and break
  107. through those fears and cope and say hi
  108. and how that interaction going have that
  109. vibe to where you know an understanding
  110. like you said just the understanding of
  111. how things working you know what I love
  112. about you is that you were always very
  113. of course open and coachable like that's
  114. that's a requirement and very open to
  115. things and including some of the deeper
  116. stuff that we had to do to clean up
  117. mindset yeah there was that's definitely
  118. had some cleanup to do within myself
  119. there was to understand how to move
  120. forward and how to become um magnetic
  121. towards women and it's it's it's a
  122. process and it's it's an ongoing process
  123. daily of accepting myself and it's
  124. really cool and and learning about how
  125. women see men forgetting that and even
  126. though I have all these sisters and
  127. everything else you just don't
  128. understand until til it's taught to you
  129. or ingrained into me that that hey women
  130. do want you yeah you know it's pretty
  131. cool yeah yeah and women women do want
  132. men and they also want a particular the
  133. you know they want the guy to show up in
  134. a particular way I mean that's true to
  135. him but one of the ways they don't let's
  136. just say about what they don't want they
  137. don't want a guy to show up as overly
  138. aggressive over the pursuing over an ad
  139. trying to convince them you know they
  140. don't want a guy who's putting them on
  141. this pedestal they want to be a guy
  142. who's on the level and truthfully not
  143. only guys unleveled but maybe a guy
  144. who's above him above her not that we're
  145. saying that we want that are there to be
  146. this big gap because too big a gap
  147. either way isn't good but right that can
  148. happen right that can happen with the
  149. crush or whatever
  150. and you know we sort of don't want to
  151. even really do that with her at least at
  152. first I mean we always sort of want to
  153. be on the level right that's the thing
  154. because then it then how does it become
  155. a real you know if we can evolve into a
  156. relationship you got to be on the level
  157. right otherwise it's like thing and all
  158. that and women will say oh you know I'd
  159. love to be worshipped and appreciated
  160. that's what they think they want they'll
  161. take the attention but that doesn't mean
  162. they're gonna be with that guy by any
  163. means oh thank you for the compliment oh
  164. thank you for the dinner oh thank you
  165. for the drink right without without the
  166. attraction being established for sure
  167. I'm not saying you can't complimentary
  168. that stuff but without being that best
  169. version of you and the one who's like I
  170. have something to offer I have something
  171. of value women do want me changes
  172. everything rather than what do I gotta
  173. do to get her and like I do play right
  174. how do I convince her and how do i you
  175. know how do I bring myself up to level
  176. it's like dude be on the low right and
  177. that's what I talk about my traction on
  178. command webinar is about remove the
  179. pedestal because you're putting the
  180. pedestal there we're putting the
  181. pedestal there when we do that right so
  182. you know I'm curious too you said you
  183. grew up with a lot of sisters did they
  184. ever try to help you with advice did you
  185. talk to them about women and stuff or
  186. was it just kind of not spoke it up yeah
  187. they did but you know what they're funny
  188. because they want me to put them on a
  189. pedestal my sisters too so I always kind
  190. of like I grew up in a large Catholic
  191. family that you know you have to be the
  192. gentleman you have to be nice you can't
  193. talk sexual with women you have to be
  194. good you know and I and one thing you
  195. caught you caught me with was the
  196. neediness being needy to a woman and and
  197. I always thought though they like that
  198. you're needed them you need them
  199. and I what I really learned is no I
  200. don't need them I need just to be the
  201. best version of myself like you said and
  202. and that's kind of where the direction I
  203. have gone and saying well shit I'm okay
  204. just the way I am you know and I don't
  205. woman I need my happiness and my
  206. enjoyment shit when that happens the
  207. women come that's what I've noticed
  208. that's awesome hell of it you know let's
  209. talk about what happened you know during
  210. during your program and kind of some
  211. things you saw some things
  212. share share a bit about the progress and
  213. the things you saw along the way you
  214. know then we'll talk about what's going
  215. on currently for you which is exciting
  216. excited to talk about that too but the
  217. journey that that happened for you
  218. during during the program especially
  219. like when you first came in and what it
  220. was you know well actually let me ask
  221. you this let me back it up anything
  222. you're afraid of when you you know sign
  223. on took the big leap in there you know
  224. and said I'm going to do this I'm going
  225. all in cuz that's you know what it takes
  226. and and and that's what everybody pretty
  227. much does any fears or doubts about you
  228. know is this gonna work for me is this
  229. all a bunch of BS is this can I do this
  230. am I even capable this any of that kind
  231. of stuff going on all that going on oh
  232. man I was scared spitless be honest you
  233. know I was like oh shit you know one
  234. thing opening myself up I was just
  235. scared of like I don't know about this
  236. I'm gonna really want to do this it's
  237. just a bunch of shit you know so I'm
  238. just gonna come in and I'm just gonna
  239. he's gonna tell me he's gonna laugh at
  240. me and say oh you're so fucked up you
  241. you know go away you know but so yeah
  242. there was a lot of fear a lot of fear
  243. and and in making that call and talking
  244. to you and after talking to you that
  245. fear went away of and my realization
  246. came that this is this is a good thing
  247. I'm doing this is gonna be cool and
  248. that's kind of what my mindset changed
  249. after a phone call thanks for being so
  250. honest about that I think it's really
  251. important for for guys to hear because
  252. it's common I can't imagine doesn't
  253. happen with anybody to some degree or
  254. whatever degree or two
  255. degree you know there's that sort of
  256. leap of faith that has to happen but
  257. also that this is possible for me that
  258. has to happen because it is real but
  259. again you know and what I noticed is is
  260. that you just you made the decision
  261. right you were decisive coming from that
  262. standpoint is the only way this really
  263. works you know there are there are guys
  264. I'll talk to and I you know I only
  265. invite in half other guys I talked to if
  266. that depending on the week and what I
  267. notice is if a guy is wavering on his
  268. commitment you know then it's going to
  269. be very debatable if he's gonna get
  270. results or progress you know so the
  271. commitment has to be all in which you
  272. were what you know once you decided
  273. you're all-in and that that goes with
  274. being you know usually comes with coach
  275. ability which is huge very sensitive to
  276. listening for that who's coachable and
  277. committed especially and decisive
  278. because executing quickly on the stuff
  279. that we you know the practice and action
  280. plans we come up with anise is really
  281. critical to breaking through things and
  282. that can be as you know a process right
  283. I also love what you said there you said
  284. you know is this guy gonna laugh at me
  285. and this and that which was indicative
  286. of how your mindset was had nothing to
  287. do with me
  288. right cuz he just cuz they effed up and
  289. this and that and no I'm not gonna tell
  290. you you're after you you you know most
  291. guys I think they're effed up and left
  292. we're trying to help get away from that
  293. part of the problem not that there
  294. aren't things to resolve and pass things
  295. and all that to work on but yeah that's
  296. very curious for me to hear that cuz I
  297. you know I don't really know what was
  298. going on your head you know when your
  299. yeah whatever all the time so it's very
  300. cool very cool that you shared that
  301. thank you so so now let's you know once
  302. you you know you don't man you started
  303. you know get on the calls you know doing
  304. them doing the work and all that you
  305. know running through the online training
  306. and us you know where the coach and
  307. heavily what did you start to find
  308. what's happening what was the process
  309. like wow for me was a spiritual journey
  310. is how I would put it
  311. putting myself I was putting myself out
  312. there trusting you the process got me to
  313. understand myself so much better and
  314. especially if some liked me a little
  315. later in life learning all this stuff
  316. about myself
  317. is hard because there's a lot of baggage
  318. back there from so many years and I was
  319. able to go through this whole process
  320. and learn my baggage and learn what I I
  321. needed to do to change myself to be able
  322. to meet these women that I want to meet
  323. a hot woman as that was what I wanted to
  324. do and shit I have and that's what
  325. that's what this process did is it
  326. cleanse it cleansed out all my shit and
  327. brought out so it could bring out the
  328. best version of me
  329. learning learning something really deep
  330. inside to love myself again and and that
  331. and that was like the coolest thing of
  332. the whole the whole process yeah I mean
  333. that's the thing I consistently heard
  334. through the program after you know when
  335. he reached out you know self-love was
  336. huge for you and it's not necessarily
  337. for every guy I believe that we live in
  338. a world that can use a lot more of it I
  339. know I have had to learn to give myself
  340. a lot more of it and some days I'm not
  341. so great with it you know even myself
  342. pretty hard but I've learned to and when
  343. I pick up on that and hear that you know
  344. or guys would be struggling beating
  345. himself up a lot that's the kind of
  346. route that usually has to go and I love
  347. the fact that you said it's a spiritual
  348. journey because that's what it's been
  349. for me I probably need to write more
  350. about that because you know to me all of
  351. like we're all on a spiritual journey
  352. whether we believe in spiritual
  353. spiritual just means it's really really
  354. real for somebody Donna what's real in
  355. terms of life experience it's not this
  356. whoo whoo thing you know it's not very
  357. very really it's really not although
  358. there are things that happen that seem
  359. magical a hairy fairy right when or
  360. denied not Aryan just like yeah like
  361. that was that easier that happened once
  362. I started loving myself more or started
  363. relating to women a different way more
  364. understood this thing more but that
  365. woman was basically waiting for an
  366. opportunity to be with me hang out with
  367. me sleep with me dating heat whatever
  368. whatever occurred right and I just I
  369. mean I feel it from you you just like
  370. you know you like vibrate it you
  371. resonate it and that's part of the vibe
  372. thing like and the one thing you know
  373. that I I'm still very clear on and was
  374. clear and when I talk to you is that you
  375. know I immediately you are extremely
  376. likeable and comfortable to talk to in a
  377. vibe right and that you can make women
  378. feel comfortable the problem was the
  379. attraction right nerves we can kind of
  380. break it down that way and some guys
  381. have both or some guys yeah some guys
  382. have both or they tend to very come
  383. for as the friend zone or scaredy zone
  384. or needy zone sometimes or it puts the
  385. guys in you know away from the
  386. attraction zone so and one thing I want
  387. to ask about or just mention here is you
  388. mentioned how you know you had baggage
  389. to clean out and you know for everyone
  390. listening Michaels 5858 looks great but
  391. seriously you know sometimes guys have
  392. questions are my too old for this too
  393. much baggage and you're clearly an
  394. example you know of knaves doesn't
  395. matter if your willingness to be
  396. committed to doing the work to go into
  397. the process of being open to it to
  398. diving full in and that's what I'm here
  399. to help do right on on all levels and
  400. some people require more than others
  401. like that's just the way it goes that's
  402. why there's so much live interaction
  403. it's not just an information product
  404. that you try to apply because how do you
  405. overcome those barriers with just
  406. information alone some guys do really
  407. take the information or able hit the
  408. ground running and always the coaching
  409. helps you know tune and tweak and then
  410. there's some more getting under the hood
  411. that that we've got to do that I've got
  412. a you know hope to do in order to chef
  413. so I love it because and I think I
  414. believe that a lot has to do with
  415. openness like the openness to the
  416. process right and you can use the word
  417. trust and you said you know you trusted
  418. me which I love and appreciate however
  419. you really trusted yourself
  420. trusted life as well as what I really
  421. think you're staying there it's a trust
  422. of you know
  423. entrusting your knowing that part of the
  424. process of trust this happens to be
  425. fully and fully immersed fully in it
  426. yeah yeah you know trust doing all the
  427. linen and and and I went all in and and
  428. I got I got everything out of it I put
  429. into it and that's the only way it works
  430. I mean you you if you don't put
  431. something into anything anything in life
  432. you don't put something into it you're
  433. not gonna get anything out of it and and
  434. you know being a business owner I
  435. understand that that's that's you know
  436. that's what you got to do and you know
  437. age losing my hair all this other shit
  438. feeling like oh god I feel like I'm 70
  439. years old my back
  440. Hertz and whose you know none of that
  441. shit matters it's it's all and it's all
  442. in your mind you know it's really that
  443. had to be drained at me like you know
  444. is there's just like for instance like
  445. on on Tuesday or Thursday I think it was
  446. at work I was with a client and she came
  447. in and she was talking and we're going
  448. over things and all of a sudden the
  449. conversation started moving in and
  450. within an hour we were like being like
  451. buddies and when she went to go to leave
  452. she came up and gave me this huge huge
  453. hug with her like face against mine and
  454. she was probably thirty years old you
  455. know I'm like so you know age doesn't
  456. matter it's it isn't that that's a whole
  457. thing in your head man and that's one
  458. thing that's takes many takes a lot for
  459. me to learn and that's that's that's
  460. where I'm at baby it's really cool with
  461. that that's so awesome and here's the
  462. thing again like the vibe with you is
  463. you know so strong you I can feel I can
  464. picture the room I can see all that went
  465. down and your vibe is is you know the
  466. belief it's in your being now that you
  467. live that not just this throwaway
  468. statement which it can sound like Oh age
  469. doesn't matter and this doesn't matter
  470. this is a matter mainstream society it
  471. all doesn't matter and to some degree it
  472. can it's like if 58 you want to date a
  473. 21 year old what you can it's just going
  474. to be very different you're gonna you
  475. know what I mean you're gonna have to
  476. have a youthful energy you know or a
  477. ageless energy it's almost like saying
  478. ageless energy and we all know those
  479. people
  480. hell I remember my locker partner in
  481. high school who was like huh 17 I feel
  482. so old and he felt like an old man I
  483. mean what the hell people at 70 you know
  484. 70 or whatever there are sprightly and
  485. energy and again I'm not saying there's
  486. not something to plays to attraction
  487. dynamic men and women but the more that
  488. you work on the mindset and the state of
  489. state of mind state of being the five
  490. the more that stuff gets blown out the
  491. way I like to look at it
  492. everybody's in the bell curve in the
  493. middle there are these outlying data
  494. points a little nerdy Hiro speaking
  495. what's got the other day about it I help
  496. guys become outliers become that magical
  497. exception then those things don't apply
  498. to the guy that it doesn't apply to and
  499. you know for you man I mean you just
  500. like you I can tell how much you
  501. appreciate women which is important to
  502. appreciate appreciating people right I
  503. can feel that as you describe that
  504. interaction and that's important as well
  505. as understanding how things go and how
  506. attraction works and how to be that
  507. version of the attractive self right
  508. because you can be that self and be oh
  509. you know you're you're you know it's
  510. like you're just a big teddy bear
  511. friendly guy and with a woman any age or
  512. the women of age that you want to date
  513. without that sexual edge without that
  514. sexual vibe without that you know that
  515. yeah I'm a man who appreciates people
  516. and loves women all this but you know
  517. I'm also equipped hello
  518. you know I'm equipped like you know just
  519. let you know my chase you down or
  520. anything but I've got some goods over
  521. here if you're interested I might be
  522. interested we'll have to see if it's a
  523. fad right yeah that is exactly how it
  524. goes it's like if the it's this sexual
  525. part of me that I need know how to bring
  526. out and and that's and that's what's
  527. coming out now is like you know and it's
  528. it's not even I'm not even thinking
  529. about it it's just I can see the look in
  530. the woman's eyes like whew yeah you know
  531. and it's really cool because I haven't
  532. had that in so many years it's like it's
  533. like whoa what it what a difference what
  534. a transformation this has been you know
  535. and I'm really enjoying life right now
  536. yeah man I can tell you are so you
  537. mentioned you know you wanted to meet
  538. hot women and that's what start to
  539. happen has happened
  540. like what you know how how's that
  541. process been what's you know we can talk
  542. about what's happening today but
  543. certainly any steps along the way of
  544. things you went through too with
  545. yeah well you know steps of just going
  546. up up getting the balls to go up and
  547. just say hi to a woman that that was
  548. huge for me and and had to go through
  549. the whole process of being able to do
  550. that and now it's become more natural to
  551. me it still is hard and it still is not
  552. as natural as I would like it to be but
  553. I know it's an everyday process but I'm
  554. able to do but I'm able to go up and say
  555. hi to any woman I want and I okay here's
  556. what happened to me a little while ago
  557. I asked one girl out you know we were
  558. talking to each other and say hey that's
  559. let's get together and let's go let's go
  560. for a motorcycle ride and go to dinner
  561. she goes okay cool I'd love to do that
  562. and I said okay so take her out and then
  563. in another two days later this other
  564. girl calls me up and says hey Michael
  565. let's go out to dinner I want to take
  566. you to dinner I said okay great
  567. so I'll do that and then a couple of
  568. days afterwards I'm watching and I'm
  569. like they're posting these things on on
  570. media together at a rodeo and I'm going
  571. oh shit they're friends and they and
  572. they were talking to each other right so
  573. then I get a text from one girl and then
  574. I get a text from the other girl and
  575. they're like playing games with me like
  576. who's going to get me first and and kind
  577. of crazy I mean I like shit that hasn't
  578. happened to me since high school you
  579. know where the there wasn't text but
  580. there was you know that kind of teenage
  581. interaction going on yeah that was
  582. that's cool so today you figured out
  583. that they knew each other did they know
  584. did they figure out at that point too
  585. that they were you know hanging out the
  586. same theater they figured it out that
  587. night because one started talking oh I
  588. went I would not and I had dinner with
  589. Michael and she's like looking about
  590. well wait a minute he took me for a
  591. motorcycle ride on Sunday and he took
  592. you out on Tuesday Oh
  593. [Laughter]
  594. and and by the way one of these bells
  595. now I've been seeing a lot of and we're
  596. really hitting enough and having a great
  597. time together which is which is kind of
  598. cool and it's like you know showing her
  599. that I don't have to be this needy guy
  600. and she's seeing that oh shit he has
  601. other guy other girls all over him
  602. if I finally want to beat this guy I got
  603. to chase him around and that's kind of
  604. what she's doing and she's chasing me
  605. and it it feels
  606. I feel wanted I guess you can say you
  607. know you feel that that Wow
  608. women really like me they like me more
  609. than I like that how'd this happen yeah
  610. fascinating right and and and that's the
  611. one that mentioned turned the hot little
  612. romance that's the same one yeah yeah
  613. awesome so yeah and it's it's
  614. interesting because it becomes like it
  615. becomes like a love for all women more
  616. generalized rather than right that
  617. specific one that's kind of crazy
  618. sunniness and that's when they into you
  619. and then you know you can tune into that
  620. more if you want to don't have to but
  621. it's also nice back to the fact that you
  622. we're like I don't need a woman to be
  623. happy and enjoy and love my life and
  624. then it all comes rushing in right it's
  625. like oh this is great it's great to be
  626. wanted but also I get the sense I mean I
  627. know that you know this and not that we
  628. don't have our days you know being you
  629. know perfectly imperfect human beings
  630. that we are
  631. but the it's great to be wanted but yeah
  632. but and I I'm this guy and part of being
  633. that guy is to not be attached to them
  634. wanting you or needing you or you know
  635. what I mean because that can be a trap
  636. too right
  637. wanting neediness is like me you know
  638. it's like I got a that you that you have
  639. to let go you know of being my neediness
  640. has to be let go of and that and that's
  641. something that I always like everyday
  642. we're
  643. on you know of yeah needing something
  644. leaving a woman I don't need a woman
  645. yeah and that's the guy they want the
  646. guy doesn't need them yeah yeah that is
  647. exactly yeah I mean what I've
  648. discoveries the women love you when you
  649. just show up as yourself not not trying
  650. not do anything going out having fun and
  651. just enjoying your life and saying hey I
  652. want to be part of that you know and
  653. that's what I see the women doing you
  654. know what's so interesting that I'm
  655. noticing right now is that you know guy
  656. can come through the program and get
  657. lots of results quickly or can get you
  658. know certain results or seeing certain
  659. amount of women but the enjoyment of it
  660. too is is a whole different thing so
  661. like you know you're getting results now
  662. you're these women are coming after you
  663. and it took until after your program for
  664. some things to settle in sometimes it
  665. goes that way you know honestly that's
  666. how it goes sometimes it's really
  667. quickly typically it's like mid
  668. programmed and things start rolling and
  669. then on the bell curve is it can you
  670. know other guys are more on the outside
  671. that happens after or they happen really
  672. quickly right it kind of spreads out
  673. like that I've noticed so but I've
  674. worked with guys that have gotten you
  675. know women chasing them friends with
  676. benefits coming over and all that
  677. but they don't have or haven't worked on
  678. the level of self-love and letting go
  679. the kneading wantonness the level that
  680. you have so it's like you enjoy it more
  681. and then there's just more to come for
  682. you I know but I mean and I'm not
  683. judging their path or whatever because
  684. you know some guys want more of the
  685. coaching that's like you know what do i
  686. do what do i say behavioral stuff which
  687. I'm still going to direct them and work
  688. on the mind stuff but some guys are just
  689. they haven't lived their life from the
  690. deeper sense and I sort of have that
  691. helped them take a look deeper if they
  692. want it to settle in and be natural
  693. because we have to shift
  694. Dunham's mindset is like you know
  695. mindset but a state of mind because you
  696. know mindset is so like set like static
  697. when it's really a dynamic thing you
  698. know what I mean like the vibe is
  699. dynamic it's an ongoing flowing kind of
  700. process of life and interacting with
  701. women and the more that we're in the
  702. flow with this stuff the more it just
  703. happens happens happens like like walk
  704. in the room you look up in the hottest
  705. women there just goes looks at you goes
  706. high and bring you know hits your eyes
  707. and you go hey yeah right that's that
  708. dynamic vibe thing that occurs and
  709. doesn't always happen like that yeah
  710. going and engaging with women start the
  711. conversations first absolutely needs to
  712. happen but the way we also do things
  713. around here is not about hunting
  714. pursuing even approaching that word can
  715. be a tricky one depending so yeah yeah
  716. well you know I kind of like look at
  717. myself as like yeah I'm a little late
  718. bloomer I guess you know I it took it
  719. didn't take me until after going through
  720. the program and just kind of relaxing my
  721. myself being more into my body and just
  722. relaxing and just kind of I didn't it
  723. happen and everything that I learned I
  724. was I'm so introspective person that
  725. that I was trying too hard so once I let
  726. go of that and just stop trying so hard
  727. and just kind of let just being you know
  728. just being myself and just enjoying
  729. things that's when it
  730. that's when things started to take off
  731. on me and it's it's is
  732. within your within myself enjoying life
  733. you know and had them going around being
  734. a huh I have a smile on my face and when
  735. that hot woman does come up and say hi
  736. to me and like yeah hi back yeah
  737. whatever this is great I'm having fun
  738. you want to have fun right now and what
  739. a cool journey this is yeah it's a
  740. newest journey huh that's how I look at
  741. a total continuous journey a journey of
  742. life and those hands really cool yeah
  743. that is cool man I love the way you said
  744. that with the you know yeah I mean
  745. coming oh it comes back you come back
  746. the whole self-love piece with you is
  747. just so so impactful and relaxing you
  748. know part of that too is because
  749. sometimes it can be there's definite
  750. some information to go through and
  751. there's some pushing that has to happen
  752. sometimes within that relaxing into you
  753. to your body because it can't just
  754. happen in the head it's like we have
  755. this whole body and he'll our sexual
  756. organs are down in the middle of our
  757. body in the center of our body more or
  758. less like if we're not in touch with the
  759. fact that we're a man and we have you
  760. know sexual organs that are meant to
  761. reproduce and more you know and enjoy an
  762. enjoyable max-width with sex with
  763. lovemaking whatever you want to call it
  764. straight up fucking
  765. whatever you're like that you want to
  766. get their brains fucked out okay at some
  767. point like I remember years ago I was
  768. hanging out with a group of guys and one
  769. girl really cute girl and we're having
  770. this conversation at a club or whatever
  771. and I said sometimes don't you just get
  772. fucked if she would like and she
  773. followed me around like this the whole
  774. frickin night the whole I was like you
  775. know and and guys they they want that
  776. they may not be able to admit it and you
  777. know it's not like they always want that
  778. but it's down there and literally down
  779. there for both of us right it's down
  780. there yeah it's in our it's our general
  781. areas that are growing like it's always
  782. there always there but we can disconnect
  783. from it and you really reconnect it to
  784. that here yeah right
  785. and then but it's okay to be a sexual
  786. man and have you know have this have the
  787. sexual I don't want to say wants or
  788. needs but the sexual I have the sexual
  789. capacity that's ready to serve the all
  790. the women that want me if I so choose I
  791. like it like that that reminds me of
  792. when I was in my 20s and I was at a bar
  793. I was getting really drunk this woman
  794. next to me and I just was sitting there
  795. going oh I'm so fucked up I got to go
  796. home and she's gone and so I get up and
  797. I started walking away and she comes
  798. running out and she was Michael Michael
  799. why are you going home don't you want to
  800. go home and fuck me and that always
  801. sticks in my mind here so many years
  802. later that's how women are that's what
  803. they want and I just have to be the
  804. right person to show up to do that to be
  805. there yeah and to understand that and
  806. with your Catholic programming right and
  807. your everything good you not talking
  808. about sex right that probably was
  809. shocking for you right and then having
  810. to reconnect to that as well because
  811. that's how it goes and sometimes you
  812. know the really religious girls can be
  813. the most wanting of sex especially with
  814. the repression yeah not that she was a
  815. religious girl but side comment there
  816. yeah so so yeah I mean awesome anything
  817. anything else here to share Michael in
  818. terms of progress results that you you
  819. know broke through strong we're pleased
  820. with you know through the process and
  821. and doing the work and continuing to do
  822. it I'm actually extremely pleased with
  823. the process scariest shit but but just
  824. because of I had to work myself and
  825. within myself and scared scared of
  826. myself and to go through this whole
  827. thing and you know yeah I almost call
  828. spiritual awakening is what I is how I
  829. how I would put it have just waking
  830. myself up and learning and anybody that
  831. that wants to go through and wants to
  832. learn about themselves and be what these
  833. hot women that they really desire to be
  834. with or they want to change their lives
  835. but this is second to none you can't get
  836. any coaching like this one-on-one the
  837. the talks that we have helping me work
  838. through the thing so that I can be the
  839. best person I am and and it's like
  840. that's invaluable
  841. that's totally invaluable great to you
  842. yeah yeah yeah great great here it's
  843. been so so helpful and impactful for you
  844. so just like kind of payback in that
  845. what was anything that was most you know
  846. beneficial for you as as part of the
  847. process or going through that I maybe
  848. you just said it was the the coaching in
  849. the interaction peace be calm and to
  850. hear that anything else that might come
  851. to mind may it may not be about the
  852. process of the program but something
  853. that was beneficial you learned realized
  854. or whatever what I really what I really
  855. I actually realized which is this kind
  856. of deep for me is not is I didn't love
  857. myself when I came here I have learned
  858. to love myself and it's a process and
  859. it's an everyday process and then that
  860. is probably the number one thing I got
  861. out of this whole thing was connecting
  862. with myself again
  863. and because it's shit all these hot
  864. women they they do want you and I'm
  865. learning that they do want to you just
  866. got to be the right guy and being the
  867. right guy is freedom you know and a
  868. total freedom changing changing my
  869. behaviors changing knowing what I was
  870. doing in the past which was not working
  871. and learning and why it wasn't working
  872. yeah it's working man it's working
  873. fantastic any any final thing you you
  874. want to say or maybe that was that and
  875. any final words of no pressure but I
  876. sometimes like say words of wisdom for
  877. any guys watching this be like me who's
  878. scared shitless to make that first phone
  879. call and make it and and go on a journey
  880. man I mean it the only thing you're
  881. doing is benefiting yourself so so if
  882. you if you want to benefit yourself make
  883. the call and and see if and see if it's
  884. right and it might not be right for
  885. everybody but it sure was right for me
  886. and sure transformed my life into
  887. something that I didn't think I would
  888. become and I also met a great friend
  889. here you know that that has taken me on
  890. this journey and shown me showed me the
  891. light showing me the right way to go
  892. show me the this is the path you take
  893. you know and it's a cool path and the
  894. golden path man so that's so impacted by
  895. your words man in and I learn I have
  896. learned and am learning so much from you
  897. to that's part of what does happen I
  898. know I'm the expert and the guide and it
  899. is a role that I play but also that
  900. especially with someone like you who has
  901. shown someone's courage and being scared
  902. shitless but like I'm all-in that's the
  903. epitome of courage which is comes from a
  904. big heartedness right courage literally
  905. comes from the Latin word which means
  906. heart like not following the head
  907. where's where all the fear is pretty
  908. much I mean we experience the fear in
  909. her body but it's all there what if I
  910. can't what if I can't what if I'm not
  911. good enough and what if I'm wearing this
  912. guy's gonna you know tell me on a piece
  913. of shit and you know all that and
  914. following your gut instinct for what's
  915. right for you and just like you said
  916. it's not right for everybody we have you
  917. got to follow your gut instinct on
  918. what's right or wrong but a lot of times
  919. what I notice is even in booking the
  920. call or let alone if we determine it's a
  921. fit to you know come to the program or
  922. not the fat you know when it's a fit in
  923. the gut but the heads going this is
  924. right gotta go with the gut when the
  925. guts yes or when the guts to know but
  926. especially when the guts yes cuz the
  927. fear
  928. the fear is what has been stopping all
  929. this time in most of our lives fears the
  930. fear is a big thing I had so much fear
  931. and of going into this whole thing and
  932. as I went through this whole this whole
  933. process that fear was going away and it
  934. would go away more and more and more to
  935. to where oh shit yeah I get stuck David
  936. cool you know and and you'd call me on
  937. my shit so I could learn how to go
  938. forward you know and and you really you
  939. dug deep and you saw me in this time and
  940. I was like oh wow this guy can really
  941. see inside me that I didn't think I saw
  942. and it became a deep level yeah well
  943. again and that's tribute to you to be
  944. willing to open up and go there because
  945. not every guy is or you know the process
  946. sometimes has to be I have to be more
  947. careful depending on who the guy is
  948. because those deeper looks are I've
  949. found to be the most transformative and
  950. Ken where things can you know start to
  951. accelerate and sometimes are really
  952. tough they're really tough to
  953. acknowledge and here's what I mean by
  954. that I don't mean just the bat so I mean
  955. the good stuff right hard to acknowledge
  956. the great things about ourselves cuz we
  957. live in a society that news and
  958. everything focuses on the negative it
  959. gets a lot of mileage and lots of mind
  960. control and lots of products sold
  961. through that exclusively so it's hard to
  962. even knowledge of gray and you know when
  963. even when guys have tremendous wins
  964. during the program and they totally
  965. disregard them and I have to hold on
  966. like let's think
  967. look at this look at this yeah but now
  968. like that can be actually harder
  969. especially when somebody lives in
  970. negativity so much of acknowledging
  971. their greatness acknowledging they
  972. actually did this that they did this
  973. that I didn't do it for them I might
  974. have helped them guide it but you had to
  975. do it it's definitely you have to work
  976. it if you don't work it man you're not
  977. gonna get anything out of it and
  978. acknowledging and that's one thing you
  979. were always really good at you would
  980. acknowledge the winds the positivity and
  981. say hey look how much you
  982. look what you did from this week to that
  983. week look at the difference you did this
  984. yeah I asked you to go do this and you
  985. went and did this that's a huge growth
  986. and you had to point that out because we
  987. don't see that we don't we don't
  988. understand or at least I didn't
  989. understand my growth and I thought oh
  990. it's just like I'm not going anywhere
  991. I'm not doing anything and then when you
  992. point out yeah you are
  993. look what you did it yeah it was so cool
  994. yeah it has to go that way because
  995. that's part of the limiting old mindset
  996. that will just come in and just
  997. disregard everything because it wants to
  998. stay there so a big part of the work is
  999. continuing to recondition that in
  1000. multiple ways through the you know
  1001. through the training videos and do the
  1002. coaching calls and emails and all the
  1003. ways that we interact in order to change
  1004. the course your ship whether we need to
  1005. change it 180 degrees which you said
  1006. life 180 or maybe a guy needs 45 degrees
  1007. maybe God needs 10 degrees and you know
  1008. and that that's it but you know I love
  1009. helping do the range and yet I know that
  1010. the Greece thing came up because you
  1011. said your life 118 since you would you
  1012. know jumped in the program and done the
  1013. work yeah and you know I realized you
  1014. know this wasn't it's not a program to
  1015. go learning how to get how to go out and
  1016. get laid that's why I look if I make
  1017. this phone call and you learn how to get
  1018. laid and that's that's that's not what
  1019. it was about for me yeah you know it's
  1020. become a byproduct of that because and
  1021. that's you know what I found in doing
  1022. the whole pickup thing is learning you
  1023. know get yeah I got laid and stuff and
  1024. you know meeting women that I never met
  1025. before cold on the street or cold in the
  1026. bookstore or whatever but the amount of
  1027. work and all that stuff and I just
  1028. didn't feel good I just it was so much
  1029. working I didn't feel good about myself
  1030. it didn't address before we talked about
  1031. having that magnetic vibe there's no
  1032. magnetism there of of what we talked
  1033. about here that
  1034. just happened so you can live your life
  1035. and enjoy your life and focus on your
  1036. business and from you know continue to
  1037. grow your business or serve well or you
  1038. know be with your friends and family not
  1039. have to do what I do with the weird
  1040. pickup shit which is like I almost have
  1041. separate bundles the pickup thing is
  1042. like you know I I think that's where I
  1043. was before it's like I was trying trying
  1044. to you are trying to pick this girl up
  1045. trying for that it was like that shit
  1046. don't work we don't work for me I know
  1047. that brother well thanks so much for
  1048. your time
  1049. thanks for this much love man glad that
  1050. were you know having just been climbed
  1051. coach with friends two brothers and yeah
  1052. just so appreciate you yeah I appreciate
  1053. you too David and this is this has been
  1054. really cool and was good talking to you
  1055. cool man you too thanks for all your
  1056. insights and wisdom and sharing man all
  1057. right guys we're done peace I'll see you
  1058. later
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  1066.  
  1067.  
  1068. I was like okay now I need to work on
  1069. myself in the sense of finding myself
  1070. again finding that compliments and so
  1071. that's when I stumbled upon I'm doing
  1072. all these internet searches and whatnot
  1073. and looking at thousands and thousands
  1074. of YouTube videos and I'm just like
  1075. there wasn't anything out there until I
  1076. came across yours and your description
  1077. was one of those things that I was like
  1078. this sounds almost exactly what I'm
  1079. looking for so that I'm talking with you
  1080. and I was like yes I want to move
  1081. forward this I'm the type of guy where
  1082. I'm always gonna try and better myself
  1083. so it's like good to me like having a
  1084. peace of mind and having the right
  1085. mindset you can't put a price Dollar on
  1086. that it's one of those things where I'm
  1087. like alright I'm gonna jump in there I'm
  1088. gonna do this
  1089. it's my career you could have see you
  1090. for doing that man so and so let's talk
  1091. about you know some of that progress you
  1092. made those results you got throughout
  1093. throughout the program what you saw from
  1094. that first day that you know you signed
  1095. up dove in you know and hit the ground
  1096. running with the with the program with
  1097. the coaching one and what kind of
  1098. happened you can you take us through
  1099. your journey I'm kinda yeah I noticed it
  1100. instantly in the work environment the
  1101. work environment it's like my confidence
  1102. level is actually usually my confidence
  1103. level is that its highest always when
  1104. I'm at work because I'm hired as
  1105. professional to work a very specific
  1106. thing and it's like when people come up
  1107. and ask me questions and they will give
  1108. me I don't know oh I think we should
  1109. approach the recording it sound this way
  1110. I'll have to explain to them is like no
  1111. we're gonna do it this way because these
  1112. are the problems that you're gonna run
  1113. into if we do it your way
  1114. and I've already experienced these
  1115. problems and this is why my approach is
  1116. always going to we're gonna go in this
  1117. direction you know that's just you know
  1118. try on it it's the ten years of doing
  1119. this that and it's the reason why you
  1120. hired me it's like four because I'm the
  1121. professional and the expert in this
  1122. field of you know the production and all
  1123. that it was and once I recognized how my
  1124. confidence level was there can then
  1125. started like a document I'm like okay
  1126. let's have my mental mindset of when I'm
  1127. in the workplace to be the same as when
  1128. I'm out in my social environment
  1129. and immediately right when I started
  1130. thinking in that mindset it's like my
  1131. approach anxiety was just gone hmm
  1132. it just didn't care because it's just
  1133. one of those things and I can and I
  1134. recognized within the interactions that
  1135. I'm having that a lot of times like
  1136. before this I would get like the eyes
  1137. rolling and like these girls feel like
  1138. oh okay here's another guy coming up and
  1139. talking to me and now it's it's the
  1140. opposite now there's like I go up and I
  1141. approach and they turn and they smile
  1142. and it's like a big like glowing smile
  1143. and I haven't done anything
  1144. yep that's all right baby you meup mojo
  1145. yeah I mean it was it was it's great
  1146. it's actually it's pretty pretty cool
  1147. experience
  1148. yeah I was gonna say after after that
  1149. break breakthrough I you know I
  1150. continued and ingesting more the
  1151. information off of your core library and
  1152. all that type of stuff and I just saw a
  1153. little a little tiny I mean the majority
  1154. of it that's like I learned pretty much
  1155. right off the bat but it was all about
  1156. execution yeah I mean there are numerous
  1157. times where I feel like oh I don't feel
  1158. like going out or I don't feel like
  1159. doing that but every single time I
  1160. overcame that feeling and I would just
  1161. force myself to go do it it always ended
  1162. up being a fun interaction or always end
  1163. up being like a fun night all that stuff
  1164. so it was a it was good awesome man and
  1165. so really immerse yourself dove in
  1166. started applying it seeing all that and
  1167. that's so typical and it's funny because
  1168. you know another client emailed me
  1169. recently said Wow soon as I sign up
  1170. start doing this even though this
  1171. business just it happens that happens
  1172. right and and then of course going on
  1173. you know applying the social dating life
  1174. and stuff to and there's this effect you
  1175. know the mindset in the vibe it like
  1176. it's the weirdest thing ever man you
  1177. know this Megan they tune into that they
  1178. recognize that right away yeah and so so
  1179. you know there's all that information
  1180. you applied and and and went through it
  1181. and you stayed in execution and action
  1182. right yes well and I'm curious about you
  1183. know in terms of that also you know the
  1184. parts that were more interactive and
  1185. hearing the other guys and what they're
  1186. going through and them getting coached
  1187. that part how that helped you move
  1188. through this stuff too that was that was
  1189. actually one of the more beneficial
  1190. sides I mean obviously all their
  1191. information that you gave it was great
  1192. information but having those conference
  1193. calls and hearing the other guy's
  1194. stories I mean there was some guys in
  1195. the stories that of course that I I
  1196. would just be like ah man this guy I can
  1197. just tell by the way he talks and the
  1198. tone in his voice I'm like this guy
  1199. needs a lot of work
  1200. totally he needs to push through some
  1201. other stuff but then there's other guys
  1202. that it was actually really inspiring
  1203. because some of the stories that I would
  1204. hear I mean it's it's this sounds bad
  1205. only because it's like you never want to
  1206. compare yourself but like if on some
  1207. it's it's it's a hard thing to not do
  1208. when you tell about your weekend and in
  1209. your experience and you hear a guy about
  1210. how awesome and amazing his weekend is
  1211. and they just like although I didn't
  1212. have a weekend that's good of sin yeah
  1213. that matter you don't need to think of
  1214. it that way you need to think of it in
  1215. terms of learn from his experience
  1216. you're already learning from your
  1217. experience but learn from his experience
  1218. or her experience and take take what he
  1219. learned and not only that it's a lot of
  1220. it was inspiring a lot of it some of
  1221. these stories that I would hear of like
  1222. I remember this one guy Nick he was just
  1223. going out and it's like he's he's
  1224. pulling left and right and he's not
  1225. doing anything all he's going up is just
  1226. going up and being friendly just being
  1227. myself and I'm just like yes yeah yeah
  1228. that's exactly it yeah so yeah I know it
  1229. was really it was really great to be
  1230. involved with all those uh those
  1231. conference calls and hearing the other
  1232. guy's story yes yeah that's one of the
  1233. the benefits of working in program like
  1234. this is that immersion thing in it you
  1235. know a lot of times because I've got my
  1236. little control panel I'm watching you
  1237. know and I'm bringing up the next guy to
  1238. work with and I expect a lot of guys to
  1239. be dropping off and everybody's staying
  1240. on me and wants to absorb and learn and
  1241. that's exactly the kind of people that I
  1242. want to help of course you know because
  1243. that those the ones are gonna get
  1244. results I don't want people they're
  1245. gonna dabble and just listen to some
  1246. nice and that and and I don't allow that
  1247. I don't allow those people in even and
  1248. that's why the group is like that I
  1249. don't allow it in and of course Oh
  1250. certain guys are further behind and
  1251. further ahead that's natural and you hit
  1252. on the you know the whole comparison
  1253. trap thing which is you know I've got to
  1254. keep you guys look don't compare
  1255. I know and I know your brain is gonna do
  1256. it that's how we're conditioned we do
  1257. this all that matters is your own
  1258. progress in moving forward right yeah
  1259. awesome man and I'm curious if you're
  1260. willing to tell the Vegas story as well
  1261. what happened worried that was a great
  1262. that was a great little interaction so
  1263. it's not along with some a buddy of mine
  1264. so he did the whole back in college ten
  1265. years ago the whole semester at sea
  1266. thing were they him and he just jumped
  1267. on a boat and they go travel around the
  1268. world and stop off at all these
  1269. countries and so he met this this really
  1270. cool cool group of guys and I had I had
  1271. a really rough work week and one on he's
  1272. like dude come with me to Vegas he's
  1273. like let's get you know he's like I'm
  1274. like perfect let's do this let's go blow
  1275. some steam and the first time we're out
  1276. there were just gambling you know just
  1277. catching up and all that type stuff but
  1278. the second day we went to one of the
  1279. pool parties there at the casino and my
  1280. my only goal this whole trip I was just
  1281. like I'm just gonna go talk to as many
  1282. people as possible that's it that was
  1283. the only plan I had and so I'm just
  1284. going around to this pool party just
  1285. talking it up with guys girls which is
  1286. anyone that wanted to talk to the
  1287. hottest cocktail waitresses that are
  1288. around all that stuff yeah and so it's
  1289. like I'm talking to a couple little
  1290. brides party's over here bro what do you
  1291. call a bachelor property was over here
  1292. and there and whatnot but there was this
  1293. there was just one girl that I had
  1294. approached and like instantly it was
  1295. just like a very very flirtatious vibe
  1296. like just happened like right away and
  1297. you know I'm throwing out little
  1298. bantering and being flirtatious with her
  1299. and all this type of stuff and it was I
  1300. don't know it was just a fun experience
  1301. because like she interrupted I was in
  1302. the middle of like telling one of my
  1303. stories about working for a team in LA
  1304. and she just like she grabbed me and
  1305. started kissing me and I'm just like
  1306. what's going on this is awesome I
  1307. probably could have said a couple things
  1308. to like escalated further what I mean is
  1309. I was just so carefree that I just like
  1310. this is fun so it was it was a great
  1311. experience and it's just one of those
  1312. things where it's like I wasn't using
  1313. the appliance I wasn't doing anything I
  1314. was just being myself
  1315. and I think it was just the confidence
  1316. and the vibe that I
  1317. projecting was getting it was accepted
  1318. and was you know it was working in my
  1319. favor
  1320. totally man and you're you know being
  1321. social with everybody and flirtin and
  1322. being carefree about it and the thing
  1323. you know to note to guys listening is
  1324. that this girl immediately was into your
  1325. vibe you know that she was the one being
  1326. the aggressor yeah I kissed you she's
  1327. the one who grabbed you she was the one
  1328. who did that and usually it's the other
  1329. way around yeah and so that's the way it
  1330. should be wanted it to be it's like you
  1331. were talking about earlier about our
  1332. society be conditioned like I know the
  1333. guy always has to be the aggressive the
  1334. guy always have to be like now those
  1335. women have the exact same thoughts that
  1336. we have if anything they probably have
  1337. more sexual thoughts than we have just
  1338. because you they're sexual human beings
  1339. just like we are yeah so yeah I was
  1340. always I've always been a firm believer
  1341. I'm like now I don't I don't need to you
  1342. don't need to follow the the social norm
  1343. no that's right you can change that
  1344. yeah and women want to do it they just
  1345. don't know how they deep down want to
  1346. and guys definitely don't know how like
  1347. you know I you remember when I used to
  1348. be like oh she's being aggressive to me
  1349. that's not the way it's supposed to go
  1350. that's turning me off and now I'm like
  1351. what right that's just how I was
  1352. conditioned and it's very typical and
  1353. you can go totally other way and it can
  1354. be a lot easier and then you'll attract
  1355. more women because all the other guys
  1356. are not doing that they're just
  1357. following the standard MO and even the
  1358. pickup guys they just expand they take
  1359. more actually have more techniques sure
  1360. can they get better results depending
  1361. but they're still chasing them down and
  1362. think that that's the way it's got to go
  1363. mm-hmm and all that all that mindset is
  1364. all outcome dependent and it's like that
  1365. having that whole outcome dependent all
  1366. it ever did in the past was just cause
  1367. more you know over analyzing and cause
  1368. like like anxiety and stuff like that
  1369. like like once you get rid of all that
  1370. you just you feel better you just see it
  1371. doesn't matter it's like it's like it's
  1372. what I don't know what would you call it
  1373. first of all problems where you're
  1374. worried about
  1375. your introduction was with that person
  1376. it's like yeah doesn't matter we're in
  1377. the first world so it's like half world
  1378. problems yeah yeah
  1379.  
  1380.  
  1381.  
  1382. oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
  1383.  
  1384.  
  1385. hey what's up guys I'm really pleased
  1386. this evening to bring you an awesome guy
  1387. an awesome client Jeff hood who is a
  1388. successful entrepreneur business owner
  1389. and investor all-around great guy and
  1390. we're gonna talk to Jeff tonight about
  1391. his story his transformation of where he
  1392. used to be before he came into his
  1393. program and we started working together
  1394. to get him some really really phenomenal
  1395. results socially and with women and yeah
  1396. excited to have you here tonight Jeff
  1397. welcome thank you dude but I love
  1398. working with you I love all the results
  1399. that you've gotten and continue to get
  1400. and you know for me you're always the
  1401. guy that will just freakin do it you
  1402. will just do what we talked about what I
  1403. say like almost no questions asked and
  1404. it's one of the reasons I think you've
  1405. gotten such great results as well that
  1406. you just will you're an action taker
  1407. you're committed you'll do it and and
  1408. it's huge so you know I just want to
  1409. start off with kind of telling a bit
  1410. about your story about where you were
  1411. when you first you know came to me
  1412. before you came to me reaching out
  1413. saying you know I need help with this
  1414. social life dating and all that just
  1415. explain a bit here where you're at and
  1416. what life was like for you just start it
  1417. all off I was the you know shy guy that
  1418. said over in the corner of the bar never
  1419. approached or talked to a woman and
  1420. never had the guts to if somebody would
  1421. try to get me to hey that girls looking
  1422. at year whatever I had never had the
  1423. guts I just sat there and like well if
  1424. she does she'll approach me never even
  1425. you know talk to him or whatever that if
  1426. I ever did I had probably too much
  1427. liquid courage in me and then half the
  1428. time you know remember what you said or
  1429. whatever or what she looked like the
  1430. next day so that was kind of me the wall
  1431. they my buddies used to call me the
  1432. Wallflower
  1433. that sit in the corner and watch write
  1434. the watch or the wealth or not I mean I
  1435. it's so interesting because I remember a
  1436. lot about the converse
  1437. before guys sign up and what struck me
  1438. is when we first talked you know you
  1439. said you liked the wallflower
  1440. and I said to you I asked are you
  1441. talking to people you know outside your
  1442. social group I started your friends and
  1443. you said why would I do that and I was
  1444. like why wouldn't you and you're like oh
  1445. okay maybe maybe I'm thinking about this
  1446. the wrong way a little bit here and I
  1447. remember hearing you start to wake up to
  1448. the fact that there was another way to
  1449. think about it right then let alone all
  1450. the other stuff we've been working on do
  1451. you remember that you notice I do yeah
  1452. and so you know and I also remember that
  1453. when you came to me there was a story
  1454. about a woman you were dating that
  1455. wasn't really working out for the effort
  1456. for the way the relationship was going
  1457. and all back he talked a little bit
  1458. about that yeah I was dating a girl at
  1459. the time kind of well it was pretty much
  1460. the end of it but I remember talking to
  1461. you about it and you were asking me a
  1462. few questions about it and I'm like well
  1463. you know basically you know obviously we
  1464. have blinders on we didn't I didn't see
  1465. it but I took her to a trip to Vegas for
  1466. the weekend and pay for the whole thing
  1467. and everything then when we got home a
  1468. couple weeks later she was almost
  1469. bothered her and asked her what was
  1470. wrong she's like well remember when
  1471. we're in Vegas I was looking at that
  1472. jewelry they're like yeah it's like well
  1473. I'm still pissed off you didn't buy me
  1474. that $40.00 bracelet or whatever like
  1475. okay so that's kind of you know how that
  1476. went I would guess I've indulged more on
  1477. that I've always been kind of the
  1478. provider in a relationship right yeah
  1479. and we fixed all that haven't we hear
  1480. guys talk about it good guys like you
  1481. that deserve to have what they want in
  1482. terms of dating relationships with women
  1483. and and I just you know and I'm like oh
  1484. yeah I can help you with this if you're
  1485. open to it so and was that how long was
  1486. that before you reached out was that
  1487. like a couple
  1488. sir month or right around the time it
  1489. was probably a couple weeks to a month
  1490. after I reached out to you okay or you
  1491. reached out to me after that got it
  1492. right right and and was it you know what
  1493. were you just you just like fed up or
  1494. something at this point you're like
  1495. screw this when that is the straw that
  1496. broke the camel's back that's the sense
  1497. I remember why is this happening like
  1498. what's going on here you know what I
  1499. mean
  1500. ya know that's kind of what it was you
  1501. know and obviously what I would after
  1502. that I'm going out again a lot and I was
  1503. the Wallflower set the guy that sat
  1504. there in the corner or sat there at the
  1505. table with his buddies and did say
  1506. anything to anybody like I can't I can't
  1507. be this guy the rest of my life unless I
  1508. want to be here I don't want to be him
  1509. so I need to change most a few videos
  1510. and stuff of your stuff and decided well
  1511. I'm gonna give him a shot then after I
  1512. talked to you and like sounds like he
  1513. can help me let's do it awesome man yeah
  1514. and and help you we have so you know
  1515. what what were you first thinking when
  1516. you signed up blank with their doubts or
  1517. fears or can I do this is this the right
  1518. fit is this stuff real any of that stuff
  1519. going on or you just like you know you'd
  1520. seen an offer because usually there's a
  1521. little to a fair amount of that going on
  1522. depending on the guy um yes I mean I'm
  1523. not gonna lie there was doubts and
  1524. thinking okay is this another one of
  1525. them people that just are gonna tell you
  1526. they're gonna help you and get your
  1527. money and vamoose there you go but you
  1528. know then after we had the one-on-one
  1529. interview talking before anything was
  1530. ever set up or anything yeah just kind
  1531. of convinced me with you I mean just
  1532. that one interview before he ever
  1533. started anything open my eyes and got me
  1534. thinking about things and he started to
  1535. point me in that direction right then
  1536. and there
  1537. cool cuz and so it sounds like you had
  1538. some experiences did you um did you was
  1539. it like infoproducts or did you actually
  1540. I don't think you worked with other
  1541. coaches or mentors or anything but did
  1542. you buy some product or something is
  1543. that what you matter of like here's
  1544. another one they take your money in
  1545. vamoose or no I hadn't
  1546. you know how they are all over the
  1547. internet I've looked at them and kind of
  1548. researched it and I'm just like yeah
  1549. okay whatever and the one one thing I
  1550. liked about yours was you know all the
  1551. ones you seen on the here you know you
  1552. see on the internet which they're all
  1553. seems like basically the same but it's
  1554. all done through you know everything's
  1555. email and video you know they send you
  1556. videos or whatever
  1557. I like jurors were we had a one we have
  1558. a once a week call to talk things out I
  1559. mean I'll admit I'm the worst at
  1560. emailing back and forth you know that
  1561. [Laughter]
  1562. just yeah just kidding and but I mean
  1563. you know you have consistently shown up
  1564. to the calls on the work like that's
  1565. good to hear because I hear that a lot
  1566. especially when I speak to guys you know
  1567. every week you know if we're seeing how
  1568. I can help them and talking about their
  1569. challenges and where they want to go and
  1570. talking about steps and stuff is a lot
  1571. of times I hear hey you know what I like
  1572. to buy yours it's about you and changing
  1573. you and becoming you know the most
  1574. important relationship is the one with
  1575. yourself actually that we we tend to
  1576. miss we think it's about relationship
  1577. with the women or our friends or our
  1578. family or our employees in your case by
  1579. the way guys you see the s back there
  1580. Jeff owns a snap-on tools franchise I
  1581. was joking with them that you might need
  1582. a strap-on with all the actions but
  1583. anyways like that's what I hear because
  1584. the information alone just generally
  1585. doesn't do it if a guy says he has
  1586. shyness anxiousness problems have been a
  1587. certain way all's life and there's no
  1588. one to help you and say hey crack this
  1589. crack that try this try that you need to
  1590. change this you're doing that right
  1591. right along with you know the
  1592. information is part of it but you know
  1593. the transformations we like to say is a
  1594. huge if you
  1595. part of it which happens in the
  1596. interaction so I'm glad to hear that
  1597. they kind of deep dig into that a little
  1598. bit more it's like you know your weekly
  1599. calls it's a one-on-one with each one of
  1600. us plus you hear the other guys on the
  1601. calls and sometimes you don't think I
  1602. mean last night there was the one guy
  1603. was talking about his work I'm like oh
  1604. my god that hits bay exactly there you
  1605. know you pick up other things from other
  1606. guys you didn't realize you had or was
  1607. doing and tell you hear somebody else
  1608. said then you think about and you're
  1609. like shit that was me that's me - yeah
  1610. you receive the coaching and that and
  1611. help by listening to somebody else
  1612. because what happens a lot of times with
  1613. guys - is like that have dating your
  1614. social life issues it's easy to hide and
  1615. work you know especially because I I
  1616. work with successful guys you know
  1617. ambitious entrepreneurs like yourself
  1618. executive types whatever because you
  1619. know success is really much more easily
  1620. transferable because you've been
  1621. successful here what we just need to get
  1622. it working over here but one of the
  1623. things is if something's getting in the
  1624. way and that's happening there's nobody
  1625. there to point it out with just an in
  1626. you know here's an information product
  1627. videos it's like hold on there's a
  1628. pattern going on here that we need to
  1629. take a look at this might be preventing
  1630. you from stuff not saying that's going
  1631. on with you these days but right that's
  1632. the kind of thing that we have to
  1633. identify so right so let's so I'm glad
  1634. you know I'm the group call format is it
  1635. set up that way for that way so but
  1636. anyways you know let's talk about like
  1637. progress results you know we've talked
  1638. about a little bit about where you were
  1639. some about you know working together how
  1640. that's been going but you know what's
  1641. happened for you what's been different
  1642. in terms of results in progress first
  1643. you know there was every week you would
  1644. give me little steps to do and I would
  1645. go out and do them and it wasn't like
  1646. jumping right into everything was almost
  1647. like baby steps but I would do it so now
  1648. I can go in to any place and whether I
  1649. know anybody or not I can mingle around
  1650. and talk and you know and I can approach
  1651. girls and I don't know it's not like I'm
  1652. approaching them to hit on them now it's
  1653. going up to talk to him
  1654. getting them to hit on me yeah and they
  1655. do and they will and and you know one of
  1656. the things is I remember I mean pretty
  1657. quickly you got some rapid results you
  1658. were seeing three women at once kind of
  1659. six or seven weeks and I think yeah
  1660. there was probably that soon right
  1661. and that's the thing is you know if a
  1662. guy is ready to jump in and hit her you
  1663. know hit the ground running then you
  1664. know we can go right into things with
  1665. the you know guys with shyness issues
  1666. you know like you had you know sometimes
  1667. we need the baby stuff it a little bit
  1668. just to get people comfortable but you
  1669. still move pretty damn quickly to get
  1670. those kind of results you know and you
  1671. know what I love too is starting to hear
  1672. the stories about your friends who you
  1673. go out with that do hit on chicks buying
  1674. drinks and then the women are interested
  1675. in you and coming to you and like hey
  1676. what's your story and you know and and
  1677. your friends still haven't asked they
  1678. haven't really it's like they haven't
  1679. noticed I don't know or maybe just
  1680. because you you know weren't approaching
  1681. before you had this capacity you didn't
  1682. know about the women waiting for you
  1683. which is probably true but they just are
  1684. like he's the guy you know they like and
  1685. and they still do the same shit that
  1686. doesn't work exactly
  1687. they just sit back and watch yeah I mean
  1688. you are like a menagerie like right it's
  1689. like a movie of debauchery that is
  1690. occurring in front of their eyes
  1691. and they just need popcorn to sit and
  1692. watch the girls hit you know that the
  1693. girls give you the number you know ask
  1694. for your number and then you know tell
  1695. your stories later or whatever but I
  1696. think it's hilarious man and it's cool
  1697. that you're able to do it around those
  1698. kinds of guys you don't have to drop
  1699. your friends
  1700. right you have to get rid of your
  1701. friends and you're able to make it work
  1702. just fine because that's how it works so
  1703. any you know any specific what for you
  1704. like things that you've accomplished and
  1705. that you've done that you know sort of
  1706. blew you away or you're like really
  1707. pleased with that you didn't think you
  1708. could do before you know what I mean any
  1709. specific experiences with some of these
  1710. women and meeting these women or however
  1711. the interactions went down yeah I'm
  1712. gonna add a couple that really stick out
  1713. my mind I remember it was probably maybe
  1714. eight to ten weeks in to your thing is
  1715. you know through the coach and you did
  1716. it would be you know I approached a few
  1717. women and just you know said I'm hitting
  1718. on them just hey how's it going Cheers
  1719. hope you guys are having fun blah blah
  1720. blah and it seemed like doing stuff like
  1721. that I mean I remember one particular
  1722. instance I did that to a couple girls
  1723. and then one came over and talked to me
  1724. and stuff and we just and it kind of
  1725. went you know back and forth a little
  1726. bit I'd wander around and talk to her
  1727. and then I just you know well I gotta go
  1728. I gotta talk to my buddies I gotta you
  1729. know and eventually she come over and
  1730. grabbed me he says hey come here with me
  1731. and took me to the other side the bar
  1732. was quiet
  1733. it sat there and talked to me for a
  1734. while and then you know later then I she
  1735. was leaving and I was leaving and she's
  1736. like well here here let me get your
  1737. number and I'll get ahold of you and she
  1738. did and we had a kind of a weekly
  1739. hook-up session for a few weeks after
  1740. that you know all it was and then I had
  1741. and this is my favorite one I know you
  1742. remember this one I was up in that out
  1743. of town kinda and place was crowded and
  1744. me and my buddies walked in and we were
  1745. just kind of standing there and we seen
  1746. this older couple and a girl sitting
  1747. there at the table we noticed I'm paying
  1748. their tab and before I would have just
  1749. sat there you know my buddies like we'll
  1750. go ask them if they we can have their
  1751. table when they leave and before I would
  1752. have just stood there and watched over
  1753. them like a vulture and waited to tell a
  1754. gone up but with your coaching and stuff
  1755. I just walked up and said hey how you
  1756. guys doing you know you having fun in
  1757. here is this good place to be and
  1758. they're like yeah and I'm like hey do
  1759. you mind if you know when you guys get
  1760. ready to leave if you know me and my
  1761. buddies here can have your table looks
  1762. like you paid your tab and they're like
  1763. well no he just sit down here with us
  1764. like okay so I sat down there and it was
  1765. a you know older couple with their
  1766. daughter and I'm sitting there and the
  1767. dad leaves and goes off I don't know
  1768. what he was doing so I'm sitting there
  1769. with the mother and the daughter just
  1770. talking to him and then before you know
  1771. it I was just basically me and the
  1772. daughters having her conversation and
  1773. the father comes back and sits down he's
  1774. like well did you know the deal yet I
  1775. just kind of looked at him like what the
  1776. hell are you talking about he's like
  1777. we'll have you nailed the deal down with
  1778. my daughter yet and I'm like uh I was
  1779. dumbfounded didn't know what to do and I
  1780. just kind of went speechless and she
  1781. looks at me and kind of smile and I
  1782. looked at him and said yeah he has let's
  1783. go like okay so we left went back to
  1784. their Congo they had their town and
  1785. dinner thing and next morning I got up
  1786. and left was hoping to leave before mom
  1787. and dad were up but didn't make it so I
  1788. had to say bye to them as I walked out
  1789. the condo well he just said I hope it
  1790. went well hope you have fun later
  1791. I think you know how I went down a
  1792. little detail that I think it's
  1793. important to share with how this stuff
  1794. works and and I'm going to talk about a
  1795. little bit why why it's working a little
  1796. bit is you went over and then she called
  1797. you back over or said come over and talk
  1798. to me when her parents left right well
  1799. actually you know I went over and kind
  1800. of talked to him about getting the table
  1801. I said yeah I'm like okay let me know
  1802. when you guys leave but I walked off and
  1803. then we were just kind of standing there
  1804. and she just I looked back at her and
  1805. she waved me over hey just come over
  1806. here
  1807. went over there and I was just standing
  1808. there and she's like well just we'll sit
  1809. down while you're waiting so that's when
  1810. I sat down at the table with them yeah
  1811. she was the vulture see ya
  1812. vulture as' so what I love about that is
  1813. so often you know guys want to push push
  1814. push and stick in there and you just get
  1815. a chill out and just interacting but
  1816. this this Keys in the vibe right
  1817. sexually magnetic vibe which you have
  1818. down you have it there's always more
  1819. levels to a lock and working on some of
  1820. that stuff but that's what that happens
  1821. when you have that and you know a lot of
  1822. the processes working through the
  1823. limiting beliefs and subconscious not
  1824. only doing this stuff but you know you
  1825. can't just do those steps or like a guy
  1826. would try to break those down steps and
  1827. go okay you know you know let me write
  1828. those down and just do Jeff did well
  1829. doesn't quite work like that
  1830. the vibe and who you are as you show up
  1831. into the room makes a whole a huge
  1832. impact on how that all went down and I
  1833. guarantee you that she probably noticed
  1834. you right away cuz you have that vibe
  1835. that your friends don't the other guys
  1836. don't right and I know that even then
  1837. you like you had a little bit fear
  1838. because I remember you going
  1839. you know correct me if I'm wrong she's a
  1840. gorgeous girl you're like that's a
  1841. gorgeous
  1842. she was right yeah I was I mean I was
  1843. when I very first walked up I'm just
  1844. thinking the only shit what am I doing
  1845. here and then you know that went by the
  1846. buy-side and I just went did my thing
  1847. and after that I was okay yeah yeah I
  1848. mean it's you know awesome and now you
  1849. got the hook-up in the town whenever you
  1850. go back so and and and I was a town in
  1851. Utah right that was still huge I know
  1852. you've taken a lot of trips over the
  1853. last year or so yeah that was him like
  1854. pork City I was a little hour or so away
  1855. from where I'm at right right so yeah
  1856. and and and so LOV that love that
  1857. sterling experience you know what else
  1858. do I know you know recently there's some
  1859. of that stuff where you know we're
  1860. taking the next level and some of those
  1861. women that are you know a little bit
  1862. competing for you or throwing you their
  1863. numbers at you and doing all that kind
  1864. of stuff as well any other any other
  1865. results or progress that you know that
  1866. you've been happy with just even I think
  1867. you know how you feel like confidence
  1868. wise all that stuff you can talk about
  1869. that too I'm curious about that like how
  1870. that's been going
  1871. not only the external results but you
  1872. know how you're feeling about and your
  1873. comfort level and all that oh yeah so
  1874. like I mean my confidence level was
  1875. probably you know when I'd walk into a
  1876. bar or whatever was probably maybe three
  1877. or three at the highest you know
  1878. obviously I said I was just the guy that
  1879. walked and followed my buddies and then
  1880. sat there in the corner her stood there
  1881. in the corner against the wall didn't
  1882. say anything anybody now I would say you
  1883. know I'm at least for his confidence up
  1884. there eight nine I walk in and kind of
  1885. forget my buddies are even there four
  1886. points in time and I do my mingle in and
  1887. talk to everybody and you know whether a
  1888. norm or not you know I make it's almost
  1889. like I don't know if it's good to say
  1890. but make my rounds through the bar
  1891. scoped it out and talking to people and
  1892. just kind of keep doing that throughout
  1893. the night so I would say you know my
  1894. confidence
  1895. eight nine up there now oh yeah that's
  1896. awesome I mean what a transformation man
  1897. like going from Wallflower to like the
  1898. mayor of the tablet or whatever and that
  1899. you actually enjoy doing it - I where's
  1900. I think I'm was a this week's car like
  1901. you're actually actually like yeah I
  1902. actually enjoy it too because it's yeah
  1903. we can't get good at thing anything
  1904. without learning to enjoy it right you
  1905. know before when I first started this a
  1906. couple things you had me do you know I
  1907. was like I will obviously you told me to
  1908. go out but I'm just like well shit I
  1909. have no plans this weekend my buddies or
  1910. below they're gone or whatever you're
  1911. like we'll go out by yourself
  1912. you know what I would have never did
  1913. that before but when I did I was the guy
  1914. that walked up to the bar ordered my
  1915. drinks and just sat there and stared at
  1916. the wall or the TV above and didn't say
  1917. a word to anything now it's like fucking
  1918. who cares I'm going in
  1919. walk in and you know and not nervous
  1920. don't care don't think about what
  1921. anybody's thinking about me go in or my
  1922. drink sometimes I'll just sit there at
  1923. the ball bar for a bit and chill but
  1924. then I'll get up and do my mingle and
  1925. around and do whatever and before you
  1926. know it you know half the time you're
  1927. sitting with some guys sometimes or a
  1928. table full of girls talking you know on
  1929. that part of it I like is then if you're
  1930. sit there at the table table full of
  1931. girls I almost expect you to sit there
  1932. with them the rest of the night I've had
  1933. a few occasions where like well I gotta
  1934. go I gotta go talk to these other people
  1935. and they're just looking at you like why
  1936. do you leave on us you know it feels
  1937. like it's making it I don't know it's
  1938. like a more attraction or like what the
  1939. hell's with this guy we let him sit here
  1940. with us and he's leaving and coming back
  1941. nobody does that
  1942. yep yep yeah and especially the lot of
  1943. the girls they are the more they expect
  1944. guys to mind going around and you're
  1945. just being social you're not you know
  1946. trying to get anything and it's very
  1947. very attractive everyone but especially
  1948. of course to to the women so you've
  1949. executed beautifully man you again it's
  1950. one of those things I love about you do
  1951. it without question you don't need to
  1952. know why I know that's you know in terms
  1953. of me in my process my poor mentors and
  1954. coaches have to deal with my wine that's
  1955. awesome in and you know I love hearing -
  1956. how often it's you know the women are
  1957. you know asking things about you who are
  1958. you and what's your deal and you know
  1959. here's you know you're leaving why are
  1960. you leaving stay all that kind of stuff
  1961. right happens all the time
  1962. oh yeah just yeah just kind of like last
  1963. last weekend we were talking about this
  1964. the other night is
  1965. what I told the one or the one cap I
  1966. talked to one for a second then she come
  1967. back and he sat and talked for a little
  1968. while and she's like I've seen you
  1969. around in here I've noticed you you know
  1970. and then when I left she's like why are
  1971. you leaving now
  1972. huh I'm just leaving yeah just doing
  1973. your thing doing a master of not giving
  1974. a fuck like that's definitely a strength
  1975. of yours sometimes to a fault so they're
  1976. waiting I was waiting for you to call
  1977. man on that I'm like yeah God now I'm
  1978. gonna hear that again results right
  1979. without you know some women are just
  1980. more assertive than others we got to
  1981. help them be more assertive okay we got
  1982. to help them come after us because they
  1983. don't know how it's like we're being you
  1984. know we're dating your dating trainer in
  1985. that way like way to do it here's what
  1986. you really want girl right it's sort of
  1987. like that because they're so used to the
  1988. opposite so that's awesome man so
  1989. anything else here anything else or
  1990. anything you want to mention about
  1991. challenges you come across and overcome
  1992. any other results anything you want to
  1993. in progress you want to mention here
  1994. that's of significance to you um
  1995. yeah kinda I mean one thing use you kind
  1996. of talk about a lot and stuff is how you
  1997. know 90% of your guys out there or
  1998. buying chicks girls drinks and I
  1999. remember I've had quite a few instances
  2000. were just you know you start talking to
  2001. a girl on she's like well buy me a drink
  2002. and I always use your saying well okay
  2003. it'll be two for one you buy me to buy
  2004. you one
  2005. and I think that shocks them and then
  2006. you know and most of the time they end
  2007. up buying you the first drink and you
  2008. don't ever have to buy them any anyway
  2009. yeah you've turned into the hot girl
  2010. that walks off there oh thanks nice to
  2011. meet you I'll see you later
  2012. that make payback we're not trying to do
  2013. payback or anything in and you know as
  2014. you know I mean we talk about things to
  2015. do and say but it's still that's so
  2016. secondary to everything it's the vibe
  2017. it's yeah it's you know not like hanging
  2018. around and be like trying to suck all
  2019. the juice out of a hot girl her energy
  2020. and all that kind of crap like that you
  2021. know and being needy and creepy and all
  2022. these things you know and it's about
  2023. making you know if I say try this or
  2024. that it's about making it work for you
  2025. and some of the things do and don't
  2026. because ultimately right at all it's 80%
  2027. of more psychology maybe more this stuff
  2028. really really is and you know guys
  2029. listen to this okay you know yeah of
  2030. course you can try the line but don't be
  2031. surprised if it doesn't work because
  2032. your psychology your vibe isn't in the
  2033. right place in psychology drives if I'm
  2034. fundamentally don't be surprised guys I
  2035. mean go for it but still like it's about
  2036. and it's different for everybody they
  2037. have different things to work through
  2038. different you know limiting beliefs and
  2039. subconscious things that have to be
  2040. shifted to have that vibe so we walk in
  2041. the room it's like here's that guy
  2042. something's different just by the way he
  2043. comes into the room and it's it's not
  2044. body language I mean it is but it's not
  2045. of course body language plays into it
  2046. but it's not coming in there just like
  2047. it's how you be yourself how you view
  2048. attraction how you understand - like
  2049. attraction and how it really works and
  2050. and what women sort of really want the
  2051. kind of guy the version of you because
  2052. you got to be you got to be yourself and
  2053. you got to do some things differently or
  2054. shift some things in order to have that
  2055. dynamic happen to where they're like
  2056. tasting starting to chase or being tree
  2057. starts with intrigue and then it goes
  2058. into you know some interactions and then
  2059. that sort of pursuit thing that flip the
  2060. script slip pursuit thing that we do
  2061. yeah exactly
  2062. I think you know a lot of I've changed
  2063. is and why it's easier and approach is I
  2064. don't feel like I have to when I walk up
  2065. to her girl start the conversation start
  2066. hitting on her
  2067. I just do it as a casual conversation
  2068. and then like you said you walk away and
  2069. I think it dumbfound
  2070. like what the hell why is this guy doing
  2071. this yeah more what do you think in
  2072. terms of of your program and the work
  2073. we've done together what what's been
  2074. most beneficial for you so far a couple
  2075. things that you feel you know really
  2076. helped ya helped in terms of getting you
  2077. the progress and results um I would say
  2078. my number one thing is our Tuesday calls
  2079. when you ask us about you know what what
  2080. went on over the weekend and what we
  2081. want you know how it went out then you
  2082. dissect it and tell us what you know
  2083. we'll try this try that try this then
  2084. you go out the next weekend and try it I
  2085. think that does help the most because
  2086. it's more of a it's like a one on you
  2087. know it's a one-on-one situation not you
  2088. know got 20 guys listening or 20 you're
  2089. trying to tell 20 guys the same thing
  2090. that do you you've on the calls you kind
  2091. of dissect each one of us and help
  2092. individually I think that's the that's
  2093. the number one thing and then your
  2094. videos and stuff that you send to us and
  2095. go through watching them but I I can
  2096. tell a difference when I you know I go
  2097. back and watch some of them more and
  2098. more and I can tell what I don't have it
  2099. when watch them for a while it's like oh
  2100. shit I'm starting to go back to my old
  2101. ways I need to go watch some some of
  2102. these videos certain videos can't think
  2103. of any right off the top of my head but
  2104. you know when you scroll through the
  2105. library it's like one you need to watch
  2106. this one again you do it and go back to
  2107. your new way I would say that those two
  2108. things yeah and I mean that's you know
  2109. that's the power of individual
  2110. interaction breaking down and helping
  2111. you see things that you don't
  2112. necessarily see that I can listen being
  2113. on the other end of the conversation
  2114. right because we're just literal worlds
  2115. and I love it I absolutely love it
  2116. because I just feel like I was born made
  2117. to coach and shrink I just love it just
  2118. do it all like a night and
  2119. not lose energy but going in and yeah
  2120. helping each guy I love that because
  2121. it's what's required because each guys
  2122. are at different spots or further along
  2123. further behind or whatever and it's you
  2124. know we also talked a lot about don't
  2125. compare yourself to where other guys rap
  2126. because that can really happen it can
  2127. can you can trigger some guys into like
  2128. you know oh I shouldn't go I didn't have
  2129. enough progress no no always come come
  2130. as much as you can because I guarantee
  2131. you there's something you're not seeing
  2132. and for a guy who hasn't been that
  2133. social or you know they're guys I talk
  2134. to they're less social than you were
  2135. when you start it like you're at least
  2136. going out with friends and stuff you
  2137. know and talk to other people but there
  2138. are guys that just getting out of the
  2139. freaking house you know by themselves
  2140. with people and just stepping out and
  2141. going you know even for 10 minutes then
  2142. coming back is huge but they say all
  2143. because Jeff is you know track these
  2144. women and he's got a friends with
  2145. benefits that turned out to be and you
  2146. know it's really important to not silo
  2147. yourself too right
  2148. remember that happened you do because
  2149. what happened is you've got those three
  2150. girls and then a few of a couple of
  2151. knocked off and then you're still seeing
  2152. the same one and then you went in this
  2153. slump but the slump was really about
  2154. your mindset you're like oh now I've
  2155. failed right and that's part of what we
  2156. have to address is that I'm like hold on
  2157. give you perspective on hold on dude
  2158. like that happens like it's gonna come
  2159. back up we got to keep just keep going
  2160. here right and that's you know you're
  2161. talking about the immersion of the
  2162. videos and stuff too because it is a
  2163. continual process of right re-patterning
  2164. until it just becomes who you are right
  2165. you know and one one thing to kind of
  2166. towards that to that I have to say that
  2167. it's helped me for us you know I was
  2168. like when I go into the grocery store
  2169. you know when you see a girl before I
  2170. just kind of like look at her like holy
  2171. shit that girl is hot
  2172. I walk by now it's like you know hi
  2173. how's it going you know and they they're
  2174. just as interactive as you are you know
  2175. never picked up a girl at the grocery
  2176. store yet but you know before I would
  2177. have never hide was on a mission I went
  2178. in knew what I wanted got what I wanted
  2179. did say shit to nobody and got out now
  2180. it's like go in and as you
  2181. people you know it doesn't have to be a
  2182. woman just a guy hey that was going high
  2183. on you go you know and then flirting
  2184. with the cashiers and stuff like that I
  2185. would have never did anything like that
  2186. before
  2187. yep it's it's gotta to really be like
  2188. and I talked about in my my free what I
  2189. call my free masterclass now you know
  2190. that everybody gets when they you know
  2191. check my stuff out or whatever the three
  2192. types of guys and you know we're talking
  2193. about level three which is everywhere
  2194. this magnetic attraction goes on and
  2195. it's you show up this everywhere right
  2196. not just at the bar or not just that you
  2197. know the meetup group or the hiking club
  2198. or the running club if you know a guy
  2199. wants to go that route more socially
  2200. it's really everywhere being that that
  2201. magnetically attractive and confident
  2202. version of yourself practice networking
  2203. on it being true to who you are your
  2204. core but then and that that's that's
  2205. beautiful what you said because it's
  2206. it's everywhere and it just says like
  2207. silent okay only at night that's you
  2208. know that's a very pickup be approached
  2209. to or very hunter approach okay and then
  2210. that comes out your vibe it comes out
  2211. when you walk in the room right or if
  2212. guys in a good day in any and he might
  2213. go to the store and he's like yeah okay
  2214. and then I'm gonna be trying so later
  2215. it's like the vibes all fucked up
  2216. because it's an always on everywhere
  2217. thing and that's you know we're not
  2218. perfect but that's the way to view this
  2219. stuff it's gotta right you got to
  2220. integrate it into your life by being and
  2221. even at home you know thinking about
  2222. yourself in a certain way like you know
  2223. like going to the grocery store and you
  2224. know instead of the girl being like oh
  2225. that's a hot girl it's more like okay
  2226. there's a hot girl or I'm a hot one
  2227. you know what are we talking about here
  2228. right totally different mindset there
  2229. that um that is that it that really has
  2230. is powerful it's really powerful to
  2231. placed in the vibe and and that's why
  2232. you know I'm always hitting on yeah
  2233. here's what do we say here's some things
  2234. behavior but it all starts with the mind
  2235. in psychology and how we view it right
  2236. and it's interesting I was just watching
  2237. you there even is the way you're talking
  2238. about going the grocery store you're
  2239. like there's a hot girl your eyes were
  2240. darting which I call squirrely it's like
  2241. bizarro right it's like there she is and
  2242. it may not be that you know extreme but
  2243. guys will be like this this right this
  2244. happens all the time happens with my guy
  2245. friends that don't get it to check out
  2246. the girl kihachi is and they like turn
  2247. their head like that and the girls feel
  2248. if they're like it happened but when you
  2249. don't do that and you're just like go
  2250. whatever totally like it all makes a
  2251. difference every little step of the way
  2252. right it does I mean I was that guy he
  2253. liked your bunnies before now it's like
  2254. yeah she's just I mean yeah she's hot
  2255. but I'm not gonna like start drooling
  2256. and stuff over like I probably would
  2257. have before now it's just like hey how's
  2258. it going yeah you are the grass you're
  2259. on the path by buying girls drinks and
  2260. then starting to stick roses in them so
  2261. thank God you met me well yeah pretty
  2262. much yeah but you weren't doing that
  2263. stuff buying drinks in provider shaprut
  2264. you were actually exactly yeah I mean I
  2265. don't think I did really I ever went out
  2266. on many dates where the girl ever paid
  2267. you know and I had another instance I
  2268. can't remember how many weeks ago but a
  2269. couple weeks ago where one of the girls
  2270. that I talked to we exchanged numbers
  2271. and she invited well this was during the
  2272. World Series
  2273. just text me out of the blue hey what
  2274. are you doing I'm like I'm gonna watch
  2275. the game and go why don't you meet me
  2276. and I'll buy your beer and pizza at
  2277. such-and-such place we met she bought
  2278. their pizza hang out all night yeah it's
  2279. any slut I'm not chasing I've let her
  2280. chase me what yes yeah you're letting
  2281. her chase you she is chasing you and now
  2282. you are depriving her sir of
  2283. your services are like snap-on but with
  2284. tea you know I think we need to have a
  2285. serious talk Jeff about how abusive you
  2286. are by not what she wants well I will
  2287. she's just got to pursue me yeah yeah
  2288. awesome men so any any final takeaways
  2289. or insights to you know give the guys
  2290. listening to this you know before we
  2291. sort of wrap up here it would be listen
  2292. when were when you're on the calls and
  2293. watch the you know the videos and stuff
  2294. that he tells you to watch that helps ya
  2295. take action take act lots of accent like
  2296. Jeff be committed be courageous yeah you
  2297. know cuz that's that's what I love about
  2298. you and and the courage part to that you
  2299. know you have had to work through a lot
  2300. of fear and and part of the process has
  2301. been you know the fear needs to be you
  2302. know reduced like we don't want you
  2303. constantly pushing through it but you
  2304. have enough grit to do it but part of
  2305. the coaching process and something we
  2306. should maybe should mention here is the
  2307. inner work the inner psychology work
  2308. that has to be done at home pretty much
  2309. of a daily basis especially at the
  2310. beginning you know to really start to do
  2311. things it's not just about going out
  2312. it's got to go hand in hand
  2313. and that's the beauty of it because for
  2314. guys too shy and whatever well we start
  2315. somewhere we can start right in the in
  2316. the home right all right and I you know
  2317. I'd say these days about two-thirds of
  2318. the guys to two-thirds between 2/3 and
  2319. 3/4 are shy introverts and I am getting
  2320. more extroverted guys coming do you have
  2321. more attraction problems or they mean
  2322. have social confidence problems but they
  2323. have you know talking to beautiful women
  2324. problems you know whatever that is but
  2325. you know we can you know we can start
  2326. wherever wherever you're at basically
  2327. that's the beauty of you know working in
  2328. live group rather than just product and
  2329. and working on a weekly basis
  2330. with consistency for those course
  2331. corrections or you know sometimes it's
  2332. okay I start off we've got to be a
  2333. little more gentle but if guys not
  2334. making progress getting out there I'm
  2335. gonna push them we're gonna find out I'm
  2336. gonna get to the root of it you know me
  2337. I'm gonna find the fuck out you know
  2338. like my little coaching ears like all
  2339. right I'm gonna hear it
  2340. there's no bullshitting and I'm not you
  2341. know I'm not doing it in a way I'm doing
  2342. a way to support you know which came for
  2343. ya you're gonna call about you're gonna
  2344. call us out on her bullshit tell us to
  2345. you know I remember you one time tell me
  2346. I need to go out cuz and I did I didn't
  2347. go out and you're just like well how you
  2348. got to learn anything if you don't go
  2349. out you don't learn anything
  2350. this wasn't your exact words but was
  2351. pretty much you're not gonna advance or
  2352. learn anything sitting home by yourself
  2353. you know we all need like we all have
  2354. these nights but you need to go out yeah
  2355. yeah I call them with that but you know
  2356. there was a couple times I didn't feel
  2357. like going out but I made myself go out
  2358. and it turned out good funny how it
  2359. always does if you just do it on some
  2360. level but yeah I don't remember that
  2361. that that was a while ago yeah that was
  2362. a long time ago but right at the
  2363. beginning sort of thing bad but
  2364. interesting that yeah I remember that
  2365. now I totally forgot about it because
  2366. you are so consistent and all these
  2367. results and meeting women every week and
  2368. all that stuff so yeah it's it's
  2369. interesting and some guys will have
  2370. every one guy who for weeks like we just
  2371. watched like the videos and then do
  2372. nothing and say all the videos like feel
  2373. good when I watch it but then but then
  2374. it's nothing's working like ten no
  2375. that's a starting point that's only you
  2376. know a third or less of the program like
  2377. you've got a you got a practice stuff
  2378. home out and about this is everywhere
  2379. you know this is not a freaking YouTube
  2380. channel he got it sometimes that's what
  2381. I have to it was like you know show you
  2382. guys and get to what's going on if some
  2383. resistance
  2384. they're usually some fear right then it
  2385. seems like oh you know he's not
  2386. following the programs not doing the
  2387. work so that's what I sent out in
  2388. service to you guys to help you guys in
  2389. his brotherly loving of a way as
  2390. possible but if a guy's not hearing me
  2391. I'm gonna be like dude what no good Matt
  2392. we gotta fix this right right again
  2393. you've always been you know you listen
  2394. up and you do it and you like okay you
  2395. know I'm gonna do it and then I think a
  2396. big part of the work later on it's been
  2397. really really to get those fear levels
  2398. lower and lower which has been happening
  2399. beautifully lately too because you're
  2400. doing the other stuff that helps with
  2401. that which is a lot of the inner self
  2402. it's not just you know you can grind it
  2403. out now it's about making it natural and
  2404. effortless which you know more that's
  2405. that's where you are more and more that
  2406. I see that's pretty much where you're at
  2407. there's like a little bit right but you
  2408. but you and even the last few weeks been
  2409. making leaps and bounds for what I could
  2410. see yeah I feel like I have to yeah
  2411. awesome man thanks for thanks for being
  2412. here sharing your insights and your
  2413. experience and all about with everybody
  2414. and that's all we got that's that's
  2415. that's all she wrote folks so thanks
  2416. again Jeff and I'll talk to you soon
  2417. okay
  2418. see you guys good
  2419.  
  2420.  
  2421. ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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