BadWolf's lack of curiosity, intellectual qualities

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BadWolf: Do you care deeply about truth?
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Hedrin: You have collapsed.
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I have ignored you for five days for your repeated ad hominem fallacies.
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Actually, your fallacies were much more profound, the more I think of it.
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You turned to ad hominem fallacies when you were presented with a claim there exists evidence that a behavior you're doing is extremely harmful.
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That is, you were unwilling to learn in a potentially critical situation.
BadWolf
BadWolf: Yes I care deeply about what is True.
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BadWolf: Our society has literally collapsed to a substantial degree because of lying and untruth.
BadWolf
zapato: Family values!
BadWolf
innit: Yours might of.
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It amazes me that, in that context, you're worried about people being overly sensitive to propaganda.
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BadWolf: You have repeated that notion, again.
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It's highly ignorant.
BadWolf
Is it.
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I have a video demonstrating why that idea is so ignorant.
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It is.
BadWolf
And what is "my society".
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With the Bretton Woods systems, BadWolf, the United States became the center of the world order.
BadWolf
I'm not an american.
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"world order"
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While the economic aspects of the Bretton Woods system may have collapsed, to a substantial degree the military and security arrangements exist.
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Those, they too are weakening under Trump.
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What this means is that many nations have their foreign policy determined by the United States as they don't have a blue water navy to protect their overseas trade.
BadWolf
We do
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Much of the world's international shipping is protected by the US Navy.
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BadWolf: The UK hasn't been a world power since the Suez Crisis of 1956.
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In that scenario, pressure from the US, and others, caused the UK to do an about face on their invasion of Egypt.
BadWolf
And yet we are a member of the Un security council
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BadWolf: As the United States falls to fascist oligarchy, you'll see an increasing amount of that corruption creep into international arrangements -- like we say with Ukraine.
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Nations will be pressured to behave corruptly in order to continue to deal with the United States.
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There will be two primary effects of this: Weaker nations will be corrupted and drawn in the new US's vision.
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This will increase criminality and aggression through the world.
BadWolf
innit: I am certain american patriots will stop that from happening
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Two, strong nations, like the UK and France and Germany, will increasingly separate from the United States leading to a multi-polar world.
BadWolf
Thats three nations.
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We haven't had a multi-polar world since at least pre-WW2.
BadWolf
Just sayin
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Analysts predict that low-scale conflict across the globe will increase dramatically under a multi-polar world.
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You live in that world.
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Furthermore, the UK isn't in a good position to be independent of the United States.
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Boris Johnson was contacted by Donald Trump to participated in the Biden conspiracy theory.
BadWolf
We'll live, whatever happens
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That is, the fascist rot in the United States has already spread to the UK to a significant amount.
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And if you think the UK has an ability to be independent of the US (my above comment was on the general power level of nations, not the particulars), look to Tony Blair's reaction in the 2003 Iraq War.
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What did we see from the British PM?
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Total foreign policy capitulation to George W. Bush.
BadWolf
I think you would find that the unelected boris johnson has lost everything he has tried to do in the UK.
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The UK is now heading to a period of greater instability and weakness than they've seen since the Battle of the Blitz.
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This will make them especially corruptable.
BadWolf
Parliment has the power, not boris.
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In conclusion, that you think you're somehow free of the rot in the US is extraordinarily ignorant.
BadWolf
So your attempt to equate him with trump falls flat.
BadWolf
Also the queen is the head of state.
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Boris Johnson belongs to the same international crime syndicate as Donald Trump.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18zIK-0-k8E

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Here is that video.
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It's from Caspian Report which is excellent.
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Shirvan is brilliant in international analysis.
BadWolf
Not really, the club Boris is is was invented like 800 years ago, and trump wasn't invited.
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False.
BadWolf
Trump *wishes* he was british aristocracy.
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Boris Johnson, and the entire Brexit movement, is part of an international cabal that includes Donald Trump.
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BadWolf: Elizabeth Windsor was head of state in 2003.
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In 2003, Tony Blair, PM, totally capitulated to the foreign policy of George W. Bush -- which was based on manufactured lies.
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That had an effect on the British Isles, including later counter-terrorist attacks
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For example the 7/7 attacks.
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It will be much worse with Donald Trump.
BadWolf
Sure, we suck up the USA.
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With the UK foolishly leaving the EU, the leverage the USA has over the UK is enormous.
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BadWolf
innit: We haven't yet.
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Do you think you won't?
BadWolf
innit: And parliment has made sure we don't leave on no-deal.
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Boris Jonson has revealed his 'plan' to leave the EU.
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Bereft of details as it is.
BadWolf
Yes, the exact same thought parliment had.
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The UK hasn't been this weak on the international stage since...it's hard to say
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The 15th century?
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What date would you pick.
BadWolf
innit: Around about 1946.  The British Empire was at its height before 2 world wars pretty much bankrupted it.
deusexbee
and then you got chummy with the garlic-chewers and were buggered
BadWolf
deusexbee: Needs must, better than getting chummy with the nazis.
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The UK was much more powerful in the 18th and 17 centuries than today.
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And all of the 20th century -- not just 1946.
BadWolf
Ah you are making me all misty innit.
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BadWolf: Are you familiar with the Bretton Woods system?
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I have read about it before, but I sort of forget about its significance until I rewatched this video.
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It's quite the arrangement the US manufactured for itself.
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Foreign policy for military protection.
BadWolf
Should I care for some reason?
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Your anti-intellectualism surprises me at times.
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Indicating I have an inaccurate view of who you are.
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It shapes the entire world in which you live.
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But, as you mentioned earlier, that isn't too important to you.
deusexbee
Bretton Woods was extremely important for economic policy
BadWolf
You have no idea who I am so that isn't surprising.
deusexbee
and it marked a permanent departure from the specie-based currency system (e.g., the gold standard) round the world
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BadWolf
I know about gold-buggery.  Does that count?
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deusexbee: Yes, that's correct.
deusexbee
and yeah, it sorta did stack the deck in favor of US currency
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deusexbee: Dramatically so, but I'm mostly focusing on the military arrangements.
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As Caspian Report indicates, historically, to conduct foreign trade, you need ships of nation X to protect transports of nation X.
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That's how it's been done since shipping has existed.
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But post 1944, the US took over the role of protecting shipping for most international trade.
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This allowed companies to forgo investing in a navy, which is very expensive.
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Which lead to a huge boon in world trade, creating much of the prosperity of the late 20th century.
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"Should I care for some reason?" - BadWolf
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Later, BadWolf will make statements about the nature of the world.
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Like, 'I don't care what happens *over there*.'
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Then, you correct him and tell him that the US is a central part of the world order.
deusexbee
interestingly the US is technically a non-signatory in the 1856 Paris Declaration, meaning that we are not technically bound to rules forbidding naval impressment and letters of marque and reprisal
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Then, he responds with "Should I care for some reason?"
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I did not know that.
deusexbee
we could technically hire pirates to do our dirty work on the high seas
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We're non-signatories to a number of important international treaties.
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I'm sure as our government goes rogue that won't affect the typical citizen in the UK.
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Or other nations that you know, interact with and causally effect citizens of the UK.
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deusexbee: Are you interested in my argument to the insufficiency of regulatory capitalism?
deusexbee
i'm always interested, but i wasn't here when the discussion began and i'll be leaving momentarily for some personal business, so i wouldn't be able to do the discussion justice at the present time
BadWolf
innit: I am thrilled you think about us UK citizens so much.
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BadWolf: You're considerably more anti-intellectual than I previously perceived.
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That was my error.
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BadWolf: I put you on ignore for 72 hours for your anti-intellectualism, lack of knowledge on the topics you express interest in, and general lack of curiosity towards the world we co-inhabit.
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May God save the Queen.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwrX-LN9-L0

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BadWolf reminds me of those people who are too dumb to be adequately mocked.
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Like you try to mock them, and they sort of get it, but not really.
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Here's a quick summary of what happened above:
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1. Here's some generic information about the significance of X
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2. "Oh, I don't care about things in a generic context. I live in the UK. X doesn't affect me."
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3. Oh, okay. You're not interested in generic argumentation that isn't deeply rooted in your parochial perspective.
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4. Here's a specialized argument about the significance of X in the UK.
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5. "You seem awfully interested in the UK."