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Corporations: Legal structure, intersubjective reality...

May 19th, 2019
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  2. m8zee51
  3. Dude, corporations are just legal entities. They are efficient economic structures. That's the proper way to think about them. Don't give me this nonsense like, "they don't want to pay a living wage." Your wage is just determined by economic forces.
  4. Monfd
  5. I find that fairly incomplete, m8zee51.
  6. m8zee51
  7. I could go on, but that's the bottom-line.
  8. Monfd
  9. A corporation is many things: one of the things it is a legal entity.
  10. 00:17 Monfd
  11. It's also some type of federation/community/tribe of people working together with unified goals.
  12. Monfd
  13. The particular details of the intersubjective reality held by members of that federation increase or marginalize parts of the range of human psychology.
  14. m8zee51
  15. It "can" be those things. It could also be a single person.
  16. Monfd
  17. For example, some group structures incentivize people to be patient and compassionate, while others incentivize them to be psychopathic, avoid externalities, and value the short-term over the long-term.
  18. 00:20 Monfd
  19. I strongly disagree with your description of the corporation as an "efficient economic structure".
  20. m8zee51
  21. That's stupid. The corporate form has created tremendous wealth for the entire global economy, lifting billions out of poverty.
  22. Monfd
  23. In what way is it efficient? In regards to what variables or context?
  24. Monfd
  25. m8zee51: Your last comment appears to a be non-sequitur.
  26. m8zee51
  27. Use your brain! If they're not efficient, then they go broke!
  28. m8zee51
  29. You think they are at liberty to squander wealth?
  30. m8zee51
  31. Idiot.
  32. Monfd
  33. I put you on ignore, m8zee51.
  34. Monfd
  35. Reason: Ad hominem.
  36. Monfd
  37. Corporations seem efficient by some standards, and highly inefficient by other standards -- they are definitely not efficient in some unqualified way.
  38. Monfd
  39. In my experience, those that claim corporations are efficient in some unqualified way are generally cognitively compatible with the underlying assumptions and goals of the corporate structure, rendering the context natural and obvious.
  40. Monfd
  41. That petroleum companies in the 1970s systematically worked to gaslight human civilization as to the effects of their product, even though that gaslighting would, among other things, pose an existential threat to the human civilization that constructed the legal basis of the corporate charter, and that such gaslighting seems to follow naturally from base corporate assumptions as to the 'efficient' way to organized human
  42. Monfd
  43. labor given a competitive economic landscape, would seem to immediately prove that such corporations are pathologically inefficient along natural lines of consideration.
  44. Monfd
  45. For example, continued existence.
  46. Monfd
  47. Corporate ideology tends to emphasize greed impulses in human psychology, the dangers of which have been expounded upon in virtually all the world's religions.
  48. Monfd
  49. Those insights from the world's religions don't become moot because the greed impulse is codified in a legal document.
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